Some More News - Hot Labor Summer, Hot Prager Bummer, and EVEN MORE Blowshots In The Sand
Episode Date: August 11, 2023Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss the ongoing WGA and SAG strikes, Florida's ridiculous new academic standards, PragerU's thoughts on Christopher Columbus, and good news for Ohi...oans. Check out our MERCH STORE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews SUBSCRIBE to SOME MORE NEWS: https://tinyurl.com/ybfx89rh Subscribe to the Some More News and Even More News audio podcasts: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA?si=5keGjCe5SxejFN1XkQlZ3w&dl_branch=1 Follow us on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/SomeMoreNews/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SomeMoreNews/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somemorenews If you want to take ownership of your health, try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 Free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase. Go to https://drinkAG1.com/MORENEWS. Check it out. Go to https://eightsleep.com/MORENEWS and save $150 on the Pod Cover by Eight Sleep. That’s the best offer you’ll find, but you must visit https://eightsleep.com/MORENEWS for $150 off. Eight Sleep currently ships within the USA, Canada, the UK, select countries in the EU, and Australia. Stop wiping and start washing. Go to https://hellotushy.com/MORENEWS and use promo code MORENEWS for 10% off your first order.
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hi welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast hello there what's my name again
it's katie stole from what i've read in the papers about News Podcast.
Hosted by Katie Stoll and your name.
Oh, my name.
Hi, I'm Cody Johnston is the name of me.
Cody Johnston, everybody.
And Jonathan is here.
Hello.
There he is.
Jonathan, no last name.
Do I have permission to say your last name? Jonathan Producer.
Oh, sure, yeah.
Is that a thing?
Jonathan Harris.
That's my last name, yeah. Well Oh, sure, yeah. Is that a thing? Jonathan Harris. That's my last name, yeah.
Well, great show, everyone.
I know, it just puts everyone to sleep
hearing my bland-ass last name.
Can you fix that for us?
You have a vice president's last name.
Don't worry about it. It's fine.
That's true, yeah. I never think
about that. You're in the American canon now.
Nobody ever thinks about that.
That's kind of true yeah like i forgot somebody mentioned her at the shoot yesterday and i'd forgotten about
vice presidents in general are pretty forgettable well because they're never brave enough to do the
right thing you know it's really crunch time well that's why you gotta hang them
yeah that's a common thing mike pence thinks he was
the first but no every every inauguration you want to hang the previous vice president exactly
i feel like one of the few american traditions to the constitution we got some holidays oh boy do we
have some exciting holidays uh augustth, the day we're recording.
Why is National Lazy Day?
I want a lazy day.
Why are we working?
We're working right now.
Well, you can have one whenever you want, though.
You're an adult.
You can have a lazy day if you choose.
I want to celebrate National Lazy Day.
Well, as an adult, you should have planned ahead.
You should have known that National Lazy Day was coming up and planned to not record the podcast on the day right i don't know if people would accept that
as an answer you got to be not lazy up top organize get it together plan ahead get thursday
off and then be lazy all day this day goes back to at least 2014 but jonathan couldn't find the origin yeah celebrating early i guess yeah
days of the year.com speculates that the founders were too busy chilling to keep a record of their
efforts but i'm got them that was my version of a rim rim shot is that sounds like some sort of
dirty sex thing so i wasn't sure if it was the right phrase rimshot is a correct phrase okay
difference between a shot and a job exactly uh august 11th blow shot what's that sorry go ahead
play in the sand day this day started out as a way to celebrate sand castles and other artistic
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But now it's about playing in the sand however you want
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Let's start with a little bit of SAG strike talk.
The strikes are out in droves.
The people are in the streets.
The demands are being made and not met.
And Katie, you've been in town to film an episode of the show that we make.
And we'll maybe we'll talk about how that is going later.
I know.
But you were in town for that.
And while you're here, you're involved in you're like going to strikes and stuff and picketing and whatnot.
And it seems like you're having a good time.
And also it's, you know, invigorating.
Yeah, it's both of those.
It's that.
It's not supposed to be fun, but it should be fun.
That's to get people out there, you know?
It's been weird, the timing.
I couldn't get here sooner.
I wanted to come as soon as the strike was called.
And it was pretty hard to just be sitting at home and watching.
But I have to be pretty thoughtful about when I'm traveling because of the you know our shoot schedule but also we had lots of family coming
throughout July so this was my first opportunity to get down here and it has been very lovely uh
to have an outlet for your anxiety and just to see people.
It's lovely to say, okay, meet a friend,
but then you run into a bunch of people you know.
It's lovely to see all the support.
People just keep donating stuff every day. You talk about the taco trucks
or people bring celebrities donating donuts and whatnot or pizza,
but throughout the time, and I'm friends with lots of strike captains, so I keep
hanging out there and seeing what's going on. And they just, people just drop off
buckets of bouquets from a florist to hand out to people as a thank you. Uh, somebody had 10 extra
giant gardening hats and brought them.
There's just like a table of donations and every location has that.
I've been at Netflix and Disney so far.
I'm hoping to hit some of the others.
This is interesting at Disney.
I don't know what it was like.
Well, I do know it was like before because everybody's told me.
know it as dyke before because everybody's told me since last week and this week the city of burbank put up no parking restrictions monday through friday for all day yeah they did all around
the studios there's no parking i mean i parked very far down on a main drag to walk back up
they also own i mean i'm sure they own way more than this but
next to the studio one of the blocks around it they own the entire block of homes and they're
just standing sets they're just beautiful homes that are desperate to be lived in that sit empty
and have all these parking restrictions and it's honestly. Is that Keystone Road? Keystone Street?
I think so.
Yeah, it's Keystone.
Where all those are?
Yeah.
It's like, they've got all the lights on on the front porch.
There's no one there.
Anyway.
So while Bob Iger was, as IndieWire described him, being kinder and gentler, he influenced
the city of Burbank to make things tougher for people who wanted to show up at his studio.
I mean, he saw, I don't know.
He influenced them.
He kindly influenced them.
I don't know how you prove that, but yeah, obviously.
Yeah.
Because I was trying to park on one of those streets, and I looked up and I saw the sign.
I was like, oh, and there was a guy across the street parking.
And I was like, oh, he must live in the neighborhood.
He must have a permit.
And I was like, where can you park? And he was like, here. I park here all the time. And I was like, no, you can't in the neighborhood. He must have a permit. And I was like, where can you park?
And he was like, here.
I park here all the time.
And I was like, no, you can't.
He's like, what the fuck?
This wasn't even somebody coming to picket.
Join the line.
He was taking his dog for a walk somewhere.
So that kind of stuff, it's hard.
And seeing just people that have been out there every day, the writers for 100 days now.
It's inspiring and heartbreaking.
It's heartbreaking because the reality of the situation is so fucked that, you know, there will be a deal.
It's hard to believe.
And I don't know.
I don't know what's going to come of this.
I don't want to make predictions about how it'll shake out.
But things have to fundamentally change.
Writers will probably end up making concessions that they don't like and they shouldn't have to.
And I don't know.
I can't pontificate.
I'm not.
Do you feel being there that there is a new sense of like a reinvigoration?
Just for me being there?
Yeah. Yeah, because you showed up because yeah everybody was really thrilled to see me specifically
well because like i think part of the strategy of the studios has been to wait it out these people
are going to get tired of this they're going to want to get back to work the longer this goes on
the the more it plays into our hands but it really feels like every story that they plant every story that the studios
plant in variety and the hollywood reporter just reinvigorates the the writers and the actors yeah
man we are going to need to get this done or else our industry is done that was a poor gamble um
on their part this is um depending on who you follow on social media i've seen this
joke made a lot and it's very true but actors and writers are usually out of work you know
we're looking for that job that you get one or two jobs for the year right uh the rest of that
time is you're self-starting and you you can sit at home or go to a coffee shop and work on your project or
you're right at whatever you're doing, but we're used to it.
They're used to not like, honestly,
the thing I've heard from so many people is it's pretty nice to have
something specific that I'm doing every day.
It gives me definition in my day.
Then I go about doing my stuff and it's like, yeah, it's like,
well, I know that I'm going to come here before it gets too hot. So I'm up early. I feel really
good. I feel really productive and still have plenty of time to do the things that I was going
to do. So no, I don't, I'm sure that people are disgruntled at times, but you know, no one's going
every day. There's a good, and it's just a really positive feeling when you're out there and you're getting your steps in. I wanted to also talk about,
in general, Los Angeles right now, at least downtown, and in certain parts of the city,
feels like there's a there's a real energy of activism because there's also the hotel workers are on strike and then on tuesday was it tuesday
or wednesday la city workers about 11 000 la city workers went on strike i guess that was just a 24
hour strike yeah delayed uh trash pickup in some neighborhoods 11 000 workers went on the strike
for on strike for 24 hours uh they were alleging unfair labor practices
they're demanding higher wages uh as well as well uh people in like in the in the hotel uh unions
in uh city workers unions and frankly actors and writers in la most rank and file actors and
writers in la can barely afford to live in the city where they work.
Yeah, exactly.
They are forced into really long commutes.
They're taking public transportation from out of town so that they can work in the hotels
and serve the tourists.
Yeah.
Industries are bad.
just unsustainable to expect people to be able to live here and different conversations for everybody but yeah across the board the cost of living in los angeles in everywhere but especially
major cities is um untenable with what we're paid well that's why they want to scan your faces right
yeah just get the algorithms working they want to's why they want to scan your faces right yeah just
get the algorithms working they want to whittle they want to whittle down your bones so they can
get bigger bonuses they think they can recreate that katie stole magic with ai but you can't
recreate a hello tushy ad you can't in a in a computer with chat gpt. It's not going to happen. You can't do it. You can't ask a computer about its butthole.
You can't.
It doesn't have one.
It does not have one, y'all.
There I did it with the y'all again.
There you go.
Yeah, you are doing that a lot.
That was just two times now.
We should maybe point out that
you are a member of the Screen Actors Guild,
but Some More News is not affiliated with the AMPTP.
Oh, sure.
Have we been getting those questions?
Not much, but it might be worth clarifying.
Yeah, yeah.
Especially with, yeah, what we're talking about.
Yeah, this is a really good question,
point of clarification.
Actors are not barred from all work.
We are not allowed to work with struck companies and the struck companies would work in, uh, soap operas.
That's a different contract.
Daytime TV is a very different contract.
And, you know, you can work on certain productions.
New media is also fine.
So there's just, it has been confusing at times to parse and piece together what it is, is what's allowed and what isn't allowed.
And also not wanting to
do the wrong thing. For a minute, I thought maybe I shouldn't. But the more I've talked to people
and come to understand the situation, it's more important that we are, you know, talking about
what's going on. And again, there's no point. Some More News is not affiliated with any
of these people.
We're independent.
So you would be striking against yourself.
I would be striking against myself for no reason.
Cause like, so yeah, that's, that's completely different.
Um, some of it's weird where I, you will not, I desperately want to talk about things that
I'm watching, but I won't.
Right.
There's nothing good on TV.
There's nothing good on TV or at the movies.
But don't stop your TV or movie viewing habits because then that shows the studios that nobody cares about entertainment.
So I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say.
Yeah.
But my friends are working on TV shows and i'm proud of them but i
will not tell you about it and neither will they which must be the most heartbreaking thing when
you get your big break and you're on a tv show and you're our lead and now you don't get to talk
about it fuck these people sounds really specific yeah got a couple of them if if the views on some
more news suddenly went up 20 percent that
would tell netflix and disney that they're not the only game in town and they've got lots of
competition if that were to magically happen yeah um we should move on to other topics but
jonathan in our notes you did include some of this that i do want to address yeah this is
despite that there are opportunities to work in those avenues, especially for writers right now.
They are feeling the heat.
This is a long time of being without work, a long time of like and it's not some people.
I have friends that were staffed on shows that hopefully will have a job whenever this is over.
But most people weren't.
And so now those months of time when you're trying to get a job, you haven't even been doing that. So it's like once the strike is over but most people weren't and so now those months of time when you're trying to
get a job you haven't even been doing that so it's like once the strike is over then what you know
so it's it's definitely incredibly stressful yes billy porter is saying he has to sell his house
fuck anybody who i've seen so many comments like well that, that's on you, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, we have no idea what his situation is, but it's awful that he had a couple jobs lined up and now doesn't.
I'm a little surprised that Billy Porter has to sell his house.
I know.
a few months ago with sydney sweeney saying you know like everyone thinks of me as a movie star now but i have to work a lot to like this is to have a house and do all the stuff i have to do
and if i have to stop that for a year like i'm 25 that all goes away like things are a lot more
not that they're paycheck to paycheck for like very famous actors but things are a lot tighter
in hollywood for most people the reason i say like, fuck you to the comments, the mean comments that I've seen.
Like, yeah, obviously that's perhaps was worried about money for longer than just the strike.
Right.
But you've got jobs set up and then you know that you're working towards that and that you've got this.
And I don't I'm not in a position to judge anybody's finances because we have no idea.
But the reality is that, yeah, you don't i'm not in a position to judge anybody's finances because we have no idea but the reality is that yeah you don't make big patients so much of it goes out you want to
get jobs if you're at a certain level at that level where you're not quite famous but like
are you or like i just the fact that people who were on orange is the new black for like 50
episodes of orange is the new black or getting residual checks for $20
a year is
ridiculous. It's just
the money that most
people working in entertainment have
is not what you think it is and their
expenses are very high. Not just LA rent,
not just mortgages here and blah blah
blah, the food costs. I mean
10% to agents, 10% to managers,
you gotta pay your lawyer. If you got to pay your lawyer you're if
you want more jobs if you you're at that level you got to pay for a publicist that's like a retainer
for every month of it's extremely expensive so you're spending a ridiculous amount of money just
to stay in the game and all that money is going to wall street executives and the executives at all
these companies they are going to non-creative people who just need the line to go up so they'll
take it all for themselves yeah anyway hot labor summer all right maybe we'll take a break time to
sell your homes and take a break and national lazy day i'm gonna go put my feet in the sand for
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
Sand is gross.
Away from the beach.
Well, it's coarse. It's coarse and hot yeah it's hot gets everywhere
yeah it gets everywhere you know what also is bad democracy fuck yeah perfect it's holding me back
burn it all down uh shall we talk about uh education in flor God, yes. And the lack thereof.
Jonathan, walk us through what's been going on in Florida so we can get angry and react.
Well, there's a lot.
I mean, over the last month, a bunch of different news stories have come out about how educational standards and curriculum in Florida are changing.
in florida are changing it was a couple weeks ago that we found out the state's recently updated academic standards on sixth to eighth grade social studies would include details about quote how
slaves developed skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit
oh this is so yeah we've been kind of putting this off for a little bit just because it's like
this little we there's so much already a lot of discourse around it and people making all the
points that one would make about how like that's not necessary um and it's also a very clear like
in the context of everyone's everyone like seems to point out like well actually like it's true
like yeah they got some skills and then like uh they were you know freed from slavery and then
could use those skills but also regardless of like the like the kernel of truth of like yeah i guess
like over time you develop a skill and then you can use it just like how like learning something works it removes the context of
um the fact that they were slaves yeah and and the context of the de santis florida project
generally and the backlash against like wokeism and all and like learning about slavery and all this sort of stuff, it seems very
obviously like a move against this other conversation going on.
Not like, well, we want to educate people.
No, no, no.
You're doing it on purpose because you're mad about the wokeism.
It's a very clear move, right?
And people seem to talk about it as though it's just about improving education.
But things don't happen in a vacuum we've been paying attention to florida and de santis and the
critical race theory conversations all this sort of stuff so it's very disingenuous i think to to
just sort of be like well yeah that it did happen some people did benefit from it but like you
didn't benefit from slavery it's like that's gruesome it's so infuriating and the fact that i mean people believe this or
or not maybe they don't but they like to have that as a justification as to why that they think that
it's all gone too far as they want to be able to point to something that's like nah it wasn't that
bad actually there's something it's like oh this makes me not feel so bad about my ancestors i don't know it's all so fucked up but just inherently
don't you think you can learn skills anywhere you don't have to be a fucking slave to learn
how to blacksmith and most slaves died right and also like they had skills they had skills before they were slaves
and sort of to your point like i guess whenever i hear when i first heard this come up and the
point being made or whatever i had that reaction i was like okay so what what is your like what's
your point because like you're saying like you can learn skills no matter what.
It doesn't matter.
And the institution itself wasn't like there to teach anybody skills.
That's not why we're not doing outreach to Africa to teach people skills.
Yeah, we didn't introduce chattel slavery to teach people skills like it's absurd.
What if the reverse happened? If place just absurd what if the reverse happened if
place it like if what if the reverse happened it's impossible and stupid if stanford if stanford
suddenly decided to enslave all the people who attend that school no one would argue oh well
they are teaching them skills so there might be a positive like no this institution decided to
enslave people what are you talking about yeah and at the end of the day it was evil actually why would you ever why why do you need to teach that why do you need to
even plant a seed of an idea that enslaving someone is altruistic in some capacity actually
benefited them how why would we ever either side who want to exactly that's and the and the answer is well if
you've been paying attention you're aware of the de santis florida of it all the christopher roof
of it all the libs of tiktok all that shit it's all part of this story um it doesn't things don't
happen in a void and to talk about them as if they do is not very honest.
And, you know, one of you, Jonathan, I think, referencing people's defense of it, saying like, oh, well, we're just trying to improve education.
No, you aren't. Because here we are.
Let's talk about some of this other shit.
AP psychology.
You know, the headline said that the state had effectively banned AP psychology due to the course's content on sexual
and gender identity. And that is true. It has effectively banned it in that you're not allowed
to. OK, yeah. So Florida's Board of Education says the course can still be taught in a manner
that is age and developmentally appropriate. But the college board has refused to modify the course
and is recommending that school districts not teach it unless it can be taught in full. So yes,
effectively banned it. I have a problem. This is an AP psychology, which means students about to
enter college, high school students that are performing at a college level they are little adults probably 16 or 17 and uh
how is that developmentally not appropriate we aren't talking about a little child we're talking
about someone who's about to vote like and but just in general so let's follow this the way this
is do we not want psychologists and mental health professionals
coming from florida well to think that it's age and developmentally inappropriate to teach about
for example the existence of homosexuality and how that was addressed by psychologists over time
which is basically history. History of psychology.
Yeah, and something that I'm pretty sure
most 16-year-olds in Florida know about the existence of.
Maybe not in 10 years.
Right, and then you want to give context
and you want to educate them about that.
Yeah, but in 10 years, they still will.
You can't ban it.
You cannot ban mentioning or talking about... I mean, you can, apparently. I mean, you can't ban it you cannot ban mentioning or i mean you can't i mean you
can't apparently but like i'm was just making a flip joke but like well maybe in 10 years the
16 year olds won't really understand that grew up in florida because they're not allowed to talk
about it yeah but that won't happen because i mean yeah this is all like we talk about all this with
the idea that it's gonna
get reversed right that this de santa stuff in florida is not gonna stick that's not gonna be
how the place is for decades i hope not one hopes not um because yeah because there there's a and
this is maybe you know the primary will help move this along because there is and we talk about this
a lot where it's like it's just like the wrong side of history kind of stuff where it's like you're just wrong and like obviously you're like
like you're lashing out and there's this backlash about all this sort of this stuff and d santus is
a really fucked up guy and like an authoritarian twerp it's his way or no way and he's being
influenced by these again like libs of tiktok is like as big
in his ear and stuff like that but it's not popular nationwide and the reason he's able to
get a lot of this stuff done is because he's in florida and he has like doesn't have like a super
majority in florida so he can do these things but if he were to say become the president he won't be able to do a lot of
these things because it's not popular except in his state a little bit and he has the legislature
behind him but he won't have that like he's not gonna have a super majority in congress if he
becomes the president which he won't because he doesn't have the juice but it's this kind of thing
where it's like the more it becomes prominent on the national stage and you see like even a year of its effect on people.
And like we'll get to the Shakespeare stuff, things like that, where it's like people start to realize like, oh, the restrictions you're putting on this affect everything in a way that's like kind of fucked up and weird.
But, you know, also, who knows?
Maybe he'll make America, Florida like he wants to.
but you know also who knows maybe uh he'll make america florida like he wants to and before we move on to like it there are like two topics here and one is like what they are teaching and one is
what they're no longer teaching uh and there's some intersection there um and one thing that
they are no longer allowed to teach as much is uh shakespeare because of the sexual content it's so are in these plays and
this is something again it's the kind of thing where like we've said this from the beginning
well if you can't talk about this then you can't do like musicals you can't do plays you can't do
shakespeare shakespeare is filthy that's part of it actually um and he's very clever talking about a return to um american values you know
it's very important to these people shakespeare predates america's existence like you are wrong
well but also there's there was this um during the crt panic uh there was a lot of uh and there
probably still is a lot of like rumblings and people complaining like so like you're not like I've seen like some of these lib art schools and they're no longer they're not even teaching Shakespeare anymore.
They're teaching like other authors and like authors of color and stuff and like they're like diversification of curriculum in terms of literature has occurred.
And that really upset some people because you're not teaching shakespeare
anymore but it's shakespeare well now what now what now what folks so i guess they're doing some
um some teachers are choosing to just do excerpts instead of full plays because the full plays are
raunchy it's just not all of them but like yeah look education in florida i don't i worry for florida i worry i'm
worried for florida and for for kids growing up because i mean just sell your house and move it's
yeah just move everybody it's such a beautiful part of my personal personally childhood is
discovering and getting into shakespeare and learning how i thought you meant florida sorry no
god no i've never been to florida i'm sure it's beautiful it's beautiful and you start to
understand language in a different way and you certainly aren't going to figure out how to uh
read and comprehend shakespeare by reading excerpts because it won't really make sense you know not the most educational aren't like they're avoiding
the stuff in shakespeare that is kind of uncomfortable from a modern perspective but
aren't these people isn't the whole thing that oh you can't judge you can't judge people in the past
from our perspective can't you just put it in context and show the
movie do the thing keep the keep the statues up keep all the stuff up right oh it's stupid
they're putting a disclaimer before temple of doom yeah like uh desantis yeah it's very confusing
yeah well they're very confused so why don't you guys walk? What are they teaching then? What are they?
I do want to set up this PragerU thing.
Yeah.
Most of our listeners probably know that PragerU is Dennis Prager's not accredited university and it's just a conservative advocacy group. But they have these like videos for kids and a quote unquote curriculum that is now accepted by florida's department of education
for teaching kids yeah and i want to this has been floating around a little bit i want to
get your reaction to this clip uh of a prager you kids video about christopher columbus
please hold while we hold um i just want to mention and like our listeners have we've done videos about PragerU back in the day, like five years ago, we did a video about PragerU and Kanye and how like it's an indoctrination machine.
And look here where we are.
PragerU for adults is like messed up and wrong and sneaky in the way it gets its information uh and misinformation out
there and so just imagine what the kid version is how like how like sneaky and delicate they are um
and here we are this is a 45 second clip and this is like a couple of kids that have gone back in
time and are talking to christopher columbus on one of the boats of which we all know the names.
Ah, in Europe, we draw the line at things like eating people and human sacrifice.
Some of the native folks from where I just left
do those things regularly.
Oh my God.
So these people in your time
who think it was a peaceful paradise
are misinformed or lying.
Yeah, but what about slavery? You didn't deny that.
Deny? No. Slavery is as old as time and has taken place in every corner of the world,
even amongst the people I just left. Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no?
I don't see the problem.
Bro, you don't see the problem!
Well, in our time, we time slavery is being evil and terrible ah magnifical that's
wonderful i am glad humanity has reached such a time i am so horrified i that is um it's
unsurprising um that is it's so it's interesting because i'm sure listeners also remember uh maybe like four years ago five years ago the daily wire
ran a cartoon about christopher columbus and native americans and a lot of the points being
made in this prager you for kids seg like this little clip i'm sure like it's all over the entire
video are about these sort of things like,
well, yeah, we didn't do this. And like, at least we didn't eat people and this kind of thing.
And people were like, upset about it because it's like wrongheaded and it's all the reasons.
And after the outrage, editor in chief of Daily Wire, I can't think of his name right now.
Weird voice, obnoxious guy has opinions. Not ringing a bell. I can't think of his name right now the weird voice uh obnoxious guy has
opinions not ringing a bell i can't think of it who cares anyway but he popped up after the weekend
i didn't know this video sorry i'll do an impression of him i didn't know this video
and he took it down and said it was satire it was bad satire but it was satire we took it down and
sorry blah blah it won't happen again and now here we are and they're just doing it and like showing it officially to kids yeah um in
school uh even sneakier and uh it's just uh how far we've come i guess is my point what a tragedy
god i'm a little speechless i'm not speechless i've been talking we've been talking
about this for quite a while now but uh it seeing that is horrifying to me and like to make christopher
columbus like seem kindly and like he's happy that we've progressed that's the thing the idea
that christopher columbus would hear that slavery is abolished and him him his response being oh
great i'm glad humanity has gotten to that point no read
his fucking journal like that like even if you want to frame it like slavery was a thing that
existed and like people progress i'm not saying okay but okay christopher columbus would not think
that it's good that slavery was abolished he'd be like but we need the slaves look at these inferior creatures that we can enslave is what he would say and think he'd be like so he's taking
like the video go jack off because i'm so hard for fucking up slaves like that's what christopher
columbus would have said the idea because isn't their whole thing like yeah like attitudes change
and like they they had this view and now now we don't and
it's good that we don't so illustrate that illustrate that christopher columbus himself
would not agree with getting rid of slavery because he thinks that other people are inferior
and we should enslave them excuse me mr prager we've got some notes got some notes dennis within
20 seconds of this video columbus is both like oh i'm glad slavery
doesn't exist in the future but then he's like well slavery is normal in our time but at least
we're not doing this worse thing what's the i don't see what the price says i don't see what
the problem is it's so it's so like internally contradictory and on its face contradictory and
so weird and just like within the video it doesn't make any sense but also within like the complaints
that they have about history and how we teach it is it's contradictory to that too um it's just a
mess and if your kids are watching this i'm so sorry and if it's being played for your third
grader in a florida public school yes we sorry. There's nothing else we can do about that.
I'm so sorry.
If it is, I think that you should homeschool your children.
Katie coming back around on homeschooling.
I'm just like.
Actually, homeschooling isn't so bad.
If my kids.
I know.
We're going to school somewhere and they were teaching that bullshit.
I'm making jokes about this, but like what a horror.
Because not everybody would be able to do
it i wouldn't be able to homeschool and i don't have kids and i don't want in florida but like
what an impossible situation you want your you have to work around too because like they've
they're all their their whole thing is that like the left is indoctrinating our kids and they have
been since the department of education indoctrinating our kids, and they have been since the Department of Education existed. This is actual indoctrination.
And it's obvious that this is actual indoctrination, and the lies within just that one video, and Christopher Columbus saying, oh, I'm glad slavery is no longer a thing.
Like, give me a fucking break.
Ridiculous sex.
Regardless of that, you can find clips of Dennis Pra prager talking about like the ah they learn doctor
anything kids and like we need to do it instead like that's what their response is like no we
need to indoctrinate kids actually we're going to do it instead is their response to it so i don't
know seems like maybe they're just uh dishonest and authoritarian and uh if somebody disagrees
with them that means they're i don't know
commies antifa i don't know and all public schools have traditionally wanted to do is indoctrinate kids into things that happened into letting them know that the things happened the
indoctrination of knowing things instead of people can't our listeners can't see this but in this
you know animated video christopher col Christopher Columbus has crystal blue eyes.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the color of the sky, like Elijah Wood in the Lord of the Rings movies.
Yeah, piercing.
Dreamy blue.
It's like the kind of eyes you fall in love with, honestly.
It's those Cillian Murphy eyes.
Do not get me started on Cillian.
Too late.
Get started. But yeah, no, it's absurd in so many ways and uh i don't even like that was 25 seconds that we watched like uh so just imagine all the other
amazing factoids you can learn if you go to an elementary school in florida um i mean right we could
literally do a segment every week that's like here's 30 seconds from another prager you video
that they want to like teach to kids this is absurd get really angry but like that's all it
would do is make you really all it's all it does anymore i like it's like i don't know
i'm not betsy defoss she's still the Secretary of Education, right?
DeVos?
Biden kept her around.
Kept DeJoy around.
DeVos is out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is, yeah.
So the whole, I don't know, education's important,
but maybe not this style of education.
But I think to wrap it up, put a little bow on it,
it does seem like these things
are again maybe not to somebody who's subscribed to uh x premium or whatever the fuck they're
gonna call it now but most people can sort of see this and go wait that's like that's weird that's
not right that's not and it's also not even like the thing that they're originally mad about like it's this backlash
that's going too far the other way to that makes it appear absurd um so i don't know i'm hoping
that once uh once people see desantis laugh enough uh and then instantly change his face to a weird
hellish scowl in like a half a second i think people
will be turned off by it um also all trump needs to do is point out that uh jonathan informed me
of this yesterday uh so we said desantis and we try to keep it 100 desantis because that's how
it's pronounced that's how his name is pronounced uh but everyone says desantis because that's what it looks like uh and he says desantis sometimes apparently uh he changed it
because it was too hard to correct no one else has said this before or we've just i don't know
if we pointed this out uh we've posited we've certainly talked about it a lot but we were
we were asked on an even more cues why we said desantis and cody was like oh he used to say it that way and
he no longer does and axios did this that's so interesting in june where they kind of embarrassing
they dug into this and they found that during his first campaign and original campaign for governor
he exclusively said de santis and then started going with de santis and then they asked his campaign staff
about it and a campaign staffer years ago said the candidate prefers de santis and nowadays the
last few years they refuse to say what he prefers and they just ignore those questions so i guess
they i guess de santis pulled not so well and so they go with de santis it's just one of
those things where it's like all trump needs to do is got be like he doesn't even know how to say
his name like he doesn't know he doesn't know he doesn't know how to pronounce his own name
what a weak leader we are going to wrap things up today with some positive news. Yeah. Ohio represent home state.
Ohio.
Oh, right.
I always forget that you're from Ohio.
That's right.
What happened in Ohio on Tuesday?
Well, Ohio had a special election.
They had a great album come out from one of their alums.
Call back.
Is there a home of Cody Johnston sign outside of your hometown?
Oh, there are a bunch that they may have taken down because I put them there.
I don't know exactly where in Ohio you're from, so I imagine it says home of LeBron James and then underneath Cody Johnston.
And I think Cody's from there, yeah.
special election on Tuesday, voters were weighing in on issue one, which was a measure which would have raised the threshold to pass a state constitutional amendment from 50% to 60%.
Republicans put this measure together as a way to make it harder for voters to pass
an amendment this November enshrining abortion rights into the state constitution.
Very transparently.
Sneaky, sneaky.
Very obvious what was going on.
Yes.
Yes.
They presented it as sneaky
they thought they were being very sneaky yeah they they thought they were saying oh we're trying to
keep out of state wealthy out-of-state interests out of ohio politics but it was very clear they
just wanted to make it harder to pass this amendment this november uh issue one failed
57 of ohioans voting voted no. Ohioans?
Is that right?
Ohioans.
Ohioans?
I don't know.
Well, that is very good news.
It's good news and it suggests that there's a very high likelihood that that abortion rights amendment is going to pass this November.
So once again, it seems like the supreme court done screwed up yeah maybe people
don't actually like it maybe you're kind of uh fighting the face of democracy with your actions
um yeah it's uh it's great people really came out to uh vote this down um there was a a very concerted effort and again it was i think
it was helpful because it was it was very obvious what they were trying to do like even the ads uh
a lot of the ads like for the like vote yes on one was like they're trying to teach trans to
your kids they're trying like it was literally just like trans and abortion uh those were the things they were trying to fear monger about um and uh again every
step of the way it really does seem like most people in the country are put off by all the
freaks who are obsessed with those uh issues and actually are against that third of the country. So yeah, good job, Buckeyes. Good job, Ohio-ians.
Ians? Nope.
Oians.
Good job, Oians.
Ahoy-ians. Ahoy-ians.
It's surprising that
so many Republicans are
doubling down on something that is
wildly unpopular.
They like winning. I don't quite understand it.
And demonstrably. it like every step of
the way where it's like at this certain point you think like somebody would be like this isn't
working actually like this is not working for us um but they don't seem to ever let that click i'm
you know more power to well not more power to them but less power to them but like go for it go for
it because then that will equal less power to them so it's very
it's very weird that they don't seem to realize that yet they just really well that's the thing
it's like it's one of those things like they because they you know ultimately to them it's
like just power they want power they want more power but also they want more power to stop these
things to do these things right like it seems it just seems more and more like it's true believer
stuff where it's like yeah
this is just what you think and you're finding out slowly that a lot of people don't agree with you
and democracy will prevail that feels like a good note to wrap things up yeah it does i just have to
say that we will be off next week because it's Cody and I both our birthdays.
It's both of our birthdays.
Not the same day, but the same day.
Very, very close together.
And we, I think, unpacked this last week.
Yeah, it's fine.
We don't need that.
You guys all know.
But just so you know, it's our birthday and we won't be recording.
We won't be podcasting.
But then we'll be back the week after that.
To do some podcasting but then we'll be back the week after that to do some podcasting and um and uh after
this show uh apparently check out i guess maybe the final song on the hit album by the hot shapes
uh because the episode started with the first song so we'll maybe close it out with the last It's called So Right On. Bookend it. And. And. Also.
Also.
Just gotta say. Just gotta say.
We love you very much.
Oh, much. On fire
Softly sinking
We fade out on the scene She's tired of you speaking Say ride on
Ride on
Don't cry out on the lake Let me in and stay out
Till the bread won't break
Maybe later
We'll be friends
So just say
Ride on
Ride on
Ride on
Ride on I'll be the last to leave the chicken tapestry
In a town where I'll have a seat to watch on
I'll be the last to leave the tapestry I'm drunk, I'm next to you tonight I know Stay on
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