Some More News - Some More News: Tim Pool, World's Worst Guesser

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:17 Hey, Tim! How's the lawsuit going for you? I am talking about, and to, Timothy Tim Pool, who back in April was named in a libel suit against several right-wing pundits who falsely accused a random dude of being a mass shooter. This included Tim doing that thing I just said.
Starting point is 00:00:36 And listen, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't worry Tim fans out there, he will be fine. Tim Pool's podcast company, Timcast, makes, according to Tim, eight figures a year. And why wouldn't it? With such a creative name like Timcast, of course he has 1.7 million YouTube subscribers. You see, he took his name Tim
Starting point is 00:00:55 and he combined it with podcast. He's a modern Oscar Wilde he is, the ImPodcast of hearing ear nest. Tim is so rich that he has his own compound slash studio slash skate park with several employees. I'm sure it's really cool. Perhaps we'll look at that later and see how cool it is. Anyway, what's a little libel suit
Starting point is 00:01:17 for accusing someone of being a mass shooter? And while we'll perhaps maybe certainly talk about that specific mass shooting later, it's honestly surprising that Tim Poole hadn't been sued for libel earlier in his career. Because here's some news. Tim Poole, the guy and self-proclaimed journalist that this video is in fact about,
Starting point is 00:01:38 just might be the absolute worst guesser in the entire world. Really. But first, our new and only time it's a segment segment. Hey, Tim Pool, have you considered that pool is a lot closer to pod than Tim? Well, have you? Segment over. Anyway, hey, did you hear that someone tried to assassinate
Starting point is 00:02:03 former president Donald Trump? Look it up and be careful with your wording, but yeah, it's in the news right now. A lot of questions around the shooter's motivation and how they were even able to get that close, et cetera. I'm being vague because it just happened and I'm not going to make any wild guesses about the event before we get all the information.
Starting point is 00:02:23 But don't worry, Tim will and has. Almost immediately, Tim guessed that the innocent bystander who was killed in the bleacher was the shooter and tweeted that out with no care in the world. Hey Tim, did you learn nothing from the last time you accused someone of being a shooter? My goodness, Tim. But it's not just that.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Tim has so many bad guesses about the Trump shooting. He's already guessed that the photo of Trump after the attack is just like the Iwo Jima flag raising photograph, a symbol of unity and valor. I don't think Tim knows what that picture was of, just that it's iconic. Is it just because both pictures have flags in them? Who can say?
Starting point is 00:03:03 And of course, Tim has guessed repeatedly that this is some kind of conspiracy involving the Secret Service, which is honestly a topic we might have to get into in an entirely different episode. And even more, of course, Tim guessed before we knew anything about the shooter that this was all Joe Biden's fault somehow.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Joe Biden, the first and only person to use fiery rhetoric when Trump is involved. Tim is very concerned about the Democrats inciting violence all of a sudden, which is funny for perhaps reasons we will talk about later. Point here being that even in this very politically charged moment where we have very little information, Tim is more than happy to instantly guess very badly
Starting point is 00:03:44 about things that perhaps he should just keep quiet about Tim is more than happy to instantly guess very badly about things that perhaps he should just keep quiet about for a little while because he claims to be a journalist and should thus know better. But perhaps more importantly, because he's never, ever correct. Tim Poole is such a bad guesser that there are multiple Twitter accounts
Starting point is 00:04:03 devoted to posting clips of him guessing badly. That's right, his terrible guesses are so frequent that they are guaranteed weekly content like funny cat videos. Shout out to those accounts from which we will be using a lot of clips, and to the majority report with the famously middle-aged Sam Cedar, who regularly checks in with Tim Poole's bad guesses because because again, they are so frequent that you can just do that.
Starting point is 00:04:29 He's great content, hot con he is. He's also, and this is important, a weird, sad little mean-spirited creep with a civil war fetish who was perpetually courting Nazis and right-wing extremists for money. And so we figured we'd just spend an episode aggregating and discussing all of those bad guesses. Like we're a Buzzfeed article,
Starting point is 00:04:50 or for all of you not olds out there, one of those TikToks that montages like Reddit posts about incest over videos of some crap called CoinJogger. My point is we're not breaking new ground here, but it's just so fun. So fun to talk about Tim Pool, the worst guesser in the entire world and throughout all of human history.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Congratulations, Tim, you get an award. So sorry. Now you get a lawsuit. Tim Pool, world's worst guesser. So what do I mean by worst guesser, you ask? That's such a good question. You're so smart. Well, going back to that lawsuit
Starting point is 00:05:39 and the mass shooting that led to it, in May of 2023, a neo-Nazi named Mauricio Martinez Garcia killed eight people and wounded another seven at a Dallas area shopping center. Garcia wore a right-wing death squad patch during the shooting. He also had a swastika and SS tattoos and made numerous anti-Semitic and racist posts online.
Starting point is 00:05:59 More on all that later. But the point is that when this happened, a lot of right-wing pundits really wanted the shooter to not be right-leaning. Makes sense, they're probably just so sick of all these right-wing shooters, what's with that? So when this news came out and the shooter's identity was still being determined,
Starting point is 00:06:17 Tim, along with Newsmax and Steven Crowder and other people, identified a completely different Mauricio Garcia. And you know, a totally easy mistake to make unless you're a public figure or news pundit or a proclaimed journalist with a huge audience who should perhaps wait before randomly accusing innocent people of a mass shooting.
Starting point is 00:06:36 But instead of waiting or fact checking, they all just guessed it was this other guy. They guessed wrong. And now they're getting sued. And while you may notice that Tim wasn't the only bad guesser in the bunch, for him, this comes after and before a long line of terrible guesses he perpetually poses on his show.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Timcast is, from what I can tell, just Tim Poole reading headlines for the first time, live, then making bad guesses about what they are about, then skimming the article. Sorry, sometimes skimming the article. Maybe if he feels like it. What we know about the slain Texas mall massacre suspect, Mauricio Garcia.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I mean, the first thing I just want to say before we get in any of the politics from either side is, yeah, we don't want these things to happen. We want these things to stop. We need to figure out what the issue is in our society, in our culture. I genuinely believe it's disassociation. It is a dejected society where individuals don't know or care about each other and they seek validation or they seek to push some extremist ideology.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Hey, Tim, maybe read it and see what it says. Perhaps by learning about who the shooter is and what they believed in, you can figure out what the issue is. Maybe look for a pattern in these shootings. But just for starters, at least read the article. Don't just speculate based on the vibes around what you think the issue is. I'll put it simply, I think it's multiculturalism. And not the idea that people of all different types are holding hands on the rainbow,
Starting point is 00:08:09 it's that you have different communities stacked on top of each other and next to each other with wildly different views and they don't like each other. And then people who are crazy will do crazy things. Or just blame multiculturalism. Very smart analysis, thank you. And no, Tim doesn't keep reading. He goes on to click past this first headline and to a Daily Mail article. Tim seems
Starting point is 00:08:31 to love the Daily Mail, a website that we on the showdy, as well as most respectable outlets, reject as a source because it's not a reliable source. Even though Tim has in the past claimed that it is reliable. What a weird thing to say. No, it's not. Everybody knows it's not. Anyway, he then proceeds to not read that article either and instead claims that the shooter's right-wing ideology is a Psy-op.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You see, here's where we get into the Psy-op. No one knows if this Russian social media profile is actually, it actually belongs to this guy. A Bellingcat researcher named Eric Toler just said, I found this profile that looks like it's his. In fact, I'm pretty sure he even said I didn't verify it, I don't know. So yeah, it's okay, Tim, I'll clear it up for you.
Starting point is 00:09:17 First of all, you don't wanna show photos because of the sensitive nature, but you also just falsely accused some random dude of being the shooter. Did you learn your lesson or are you just full of shit? Who can say? Anyway, here's the Bellingcat article. I know you didn't read it, but I did.
Starting point is 00:09:31 For starters, the writer of that article didn't find the Russian profile. The investigators working on the shooting did, and the New York Times reported on it. To be exact, it came from, quote, two law enforcement officials who said Mr. Garcia appeared to espouse white supremacist ideology. The Bellingcat writer then went on that social media site
Starting point is 00:09:49 and identified which account they were referring to. And while no one has officially traced that account to the shooter, it really seems like it belongs to him. Comically, so what I mean is that the shooter literally posted his old ID to the site showing his name and birthday, as well as several other pieces of identification like a plane ticket and a speeding citation. This was all posted before that shooting.
Starting point is 00:10:10 These posts have since been archived and verified by other news outlets like USA Today and Snopes. It includes identifying marks matching the shooter and even a post of the flak jacket with the same right-wing death squad patch. Tim's not even claiming here that maybe this was like some fucking like MK Ultra Psy-Up false flag or whatever. He's just saying maybe that's not the guy, but it is.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I probably don't need to be this thorough, but I really wanted to stress how silly Tim's totally bad guess about the shooter's motive really is. The idea that it's somehow multiculturalism to blame because we've stacked too many cultures next to each other. And these shootings are like, as far as part of a culture war, that's incorrect. Or I guess it's technically correct
Starting point is 00:10:51 in that most extremist mass shootings are in fact an attack on a culture in that it's overwhelmingly one specific type of person shooting other specific types of people. So which cultures are the bad ones, Tim? Which is the only culture we're allowed to have? Tim, anyway, bad guess, Tim, but it's not your fault. As I already said, his show is literally
Starting point is 00:11:12 just Tim skimming headlines in real time and guessing about random stuff. Just thinking aloud into a microphone after ingesting a fraction of information, sometimes to amazing results. Disney, I got a solution for you. Cut the woke garbage. Get back to American traditional values, meritocracy,
Starting point is 00:11:33 individuality, personal responsibility, and community altogether. And it may seem paradoxical, paradoxical individuality with community, no. It's because we respect the individual's rights but also the importance of working together with shared moral foundations. Start restoring that and maybe you wouldn't have to lay people off because they specifically point out woke controversy. Here's the story. The cuts come out of the company reported profits of 23.51 billion,
Starting point is 00:12:04 which exceeded analysts' expectations. So I mean, look, that's still good for them. Wow, that is very funny. Ha ha ha. Like usually when we play a clip of Ben Shapiro or someone like that, we have to take time to explain why what they're saying is stupid or a lie, and then make a little joke about it.
Starting point is 00:12:23 But that clip just did our jobs for us. A completely self-contained episode in that clip. Watch out, us! Tim is coming for our jobs! This happens amazingly often on Tim's show. He'll read a headline, make a really bad guess, and then prove himself wrong while skimming the article. Here's another quote of one of the many other times this has happened.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And really, the only variation is how long it takes between those two moments. Sometimes, and this is really special, sometimes you'll catch Tim purposefully skipping over the parts of the article that prove his guesses wrong, hoping we won't notice. Here is a beautiful example shown in YouTube where Timba on toasts incredible 2 episode Tim Posey.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Only 22% of Trump voters actually see the rich-poor gap as a very big problem, versus 77% of Democratic voters. This shoots a pretty big hole in Tim's branding of the Democrats as uncaring, wealthy elites. They're manifestly far more concerned with the plight of poor Americans than their opponents in the opposition party What as Tim starts to read this paragraph and then actively cuts himself off as he realizes that it's not Information that's gonna play well with his audience The new national survey by pure research center finds the majorities of GOP voters view several issues as either very big or moderately Big problems facing the country for example. So okay, you get the point, right?
Starting point is 00:13:45 I don't wanna go too far into a lot of the poll stuff. I don't wanna get crazy in the nitty gritty. I wanna keep it to the main points that I'm trying to make. In a way, I kind of understand why someone might watch Tim's show, if only for this reason. It's the political version of Jackass, just one guy with absolutely zero reading comprehension
Starting point is 00:14:04 punching himself in the dick over and over. The joy is waiting to see how long it'll take him to do the obvious. It's like a fun little game. Minnesota has announced the new flag. That's right, the last one was considered racist and so they're getting rid of it. The interesting thing, however, is that the new flag Minnesota is presenting and has chosen looks an awful lot like the flag of Jumbaland in Somalia.
Starting point is 00:14:30 The reason people are taking issue with this is, well, it may be coincidental. I don't necessarily think so, but it's not like it's the actual flag of Somalia as a country, it's one state in Somalia. So it's, I don't know. This one's kind of weird. I don't know, it's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:14:49 So in this clip, he says the new Minnesota state flag, which looks like this, was designed to look like the flag of Jebel in Somalia, which looks like this. So no, no, no, no, it doesn't. You can literally just see that they don't look similar. This is like what flags look like. But Tim Poole didn't bother to just look and see what the flags are before he started recording.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He was so curious about this story that he was repeating on the air that he didn't even do a two second wiki search. Like sure, I could tell you about how the new Minnesota flag was picked and how it was part of a contest where two of the finalists had their designs merged, but why do I need to? They are two very different flags.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Here they are, being different. And so you just have to wait on the edge of your seat for Tim to realize this very easy to research fact. It's like that shot in Hereditary, but with a fact looming over in the darkness, ready to strike. And eventually, Tim does look up what the flag looks like. But by the time he does,
Starting point is 00:15:54 he's already completely committed to this idea and has to sweatily pivot. Whether or not they intentionally wanted to make the Minnesota flag look like the flag of Jubiland and Somalia, once it's not the Somali flag, Somali flag is just blue. Whether or not the truth is not what matters. I care about truth. I think the truth matters tremendously.
Starting point is 00:16:16 My point is when it comes to conflict, perception is what matters. And if many people on the right perceive this as subversion, it's subversion. What is he even talking about at that point? If enough people believe this is true, then it is? What is this, Tinkerbell rules? Tim, isn't your job as a reporter or pundit or journalist
Starting point is 00:16:36 or whatever you think you are, to report on the truth of something so that a lie doesn't get turned into a quote, truth? You know how people might be stopped from believing it's true? so that a lie doesn't get turned into a quote, truth. You know how people might be stopped from believing it's true? By you reporting that it's not. So ultimately it's clear he just got tricked
Starting point is 00:16:52 by a fake story in real time and doesn't have the humility to admit it. And we all get to watch him tap dance around it like an improv performer, pretending the audience suggestion was get an erection. You can probably see what the problem is at this point. Tim sees other live podcasts and news shows and thinks, why not me?
Starting point is 00:17:11 But that question actually has an answer. It's not rhetorical. The reason why not Tim is because Tim is clearly very bad at analyzing the news. And what we get instead is this silly grifter jazz where he just sort of skiddly bop some stuff that he thinks sounds like the truth, then learns in real time that he is wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Or oftentimes enough time passes that he just hopes we all forget how wrong he was. Oh, do we have something COVID related? I bet he had some very bad COVID guesses. I will bet you $10. Look at this. Number of US deaths per day has not spiked. Look at where it was early on. And now it's actually, there's a spike right here. It's a little spike. It's going up and we're worried about that. And I can understand saying we need to take precautions
Starting point is 00:18:03 to prevent this spike from skyrocketing, but take a look at cases. Number of new infections per day is higher than it's ever been, but the death rate is way, way, way down. I'm not convinced we're facing extreme circumstances just yet. Yeah, actually, because I done already saw that clip.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You see, Tim, I read the articles and watch the videos before we record. Anyway, that's from November 17th, 2020, just a few weeks before one of the deadliest months of the pandemic, because even without hindsight, it's very, very stupid to predict that a pandemic is gonna be a breeze right before the holiday season. Hey Tim, bad guess.
Starting point is 00:18:41 By the way, Tim's bad guesses aren't limited to video. Here he is on Twitter, claiming that Australia is putting people who might have COVID into a concentration camp. For the record, they weren't doing that. He's referring to the Howard Springs quarantine camp that the government housed people in. And while it's not a five-star experience,
Starting point is 00:18:58 by all accounts, it was just like staying in a cheap hotel. Sometimes with raves. Okay, what other hilarious guesses do we have? Oh, here's one from November, 2020, right before the election. I think Donald Trump is looking at a potential landslide. I'm not exaggerating. There's been periods where in the past where I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:16 Trump's gonna landslide for these reasons. And then there was some negative things that happened. And I'm like, wow, that's starting to look bad for Trump actually. Now I'm starting to be more convinced that Trump is on track for a landslide. Notably, he's going after New York. Boom, there it is.
Starting point is 00:19:31 The Democrats didn't buy any of this ad space. Why? Donald Trump's gonna win. Trump is gonna win. I'm convinced, absolutely convinced. Oh, so close. Very funny he honed in on New York, a state that Biden won by about two million votes. Bad guess, Tim.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Tim is generally very bad at guessing when it comes to serious political matters, specifically around Trump. I wonder why. After Trump lost the election, Tim continued to guess that his election fraud grift would pay off. Here he is on December 8th of 2020,
Starting point is 00:20:07 getting very excited about the news that Texas was challenging the election results. How about this? Texas sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over election rules. This suit was filed just before midnight on the 7th. And it is now, you know, in the wee early hours of the morning as I record this,
Starting point is 00:20:26 many outlets probably haven't even been able to catch up. Let's read the story. And then we have a breakdown of exactly why they're probably gonna win this one. And this is huge. This is gonna change the outcome of the election. In my opinion, we'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And he did see. Literally four days later, when that lawsuit was thrown out by the Supreme Court. Bad guess, Tim. Tim had some other bad guesses during that initial Trump election fraud chaos. Here he is around that same time, completely falling for the claim by Trump's lawyers
Starting point is 00:20:56 that surveillance footage showed Georgia election workers secretly stuffing ballots from a suitcase hidden under the table. There is a black table for some reason in position. And once everybody leaves in the surveillance footage, they pull out a box of votes and begin counting. Now the allegation is that the people working here told all the observers were not counting anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:19 You guys need to leave. People left. They then pull out bouts from under a table and begin counting. Occam's razor would suggest they told the observers to leave as the Trump campaign alleged and then started counting ballots they pulled out from under table. What's your explanation for this? That alone to me is a massive red flag. But then you add in two sworn affidavits, maybe more from the GOP observers saying they were told to leave. And then you have the surveillance footage of the person telling him to leave and then pulling the ballots out. That makes no sense. I can only say that to me, this is overwhelming evidence of legit,
Starting point is 00:21:59 serious voter fraud. Bad guess, Tim. If you're curious, unlike Tim, that story was easily debunked by the same surveillance footage showing that the hidden suitcase wasn't a suitcase and in fact was a ballot box that was brought in about an hour earlier in the tape. There are a few more details to it, but you can just read about it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I mean, Tim won't, but you can. Or you know what? You can just ask about it. I mean, Tim won't, but you can. Or you know what? You can just ask Tim Poole several years later when he pretended that he never fell for the election fraud lie. I want Trump off of the election fraud stuff. There's videos showing ballots being pulled out from under tables and they're counted and everyone's like, oh, that proves it all the fraud. And then when I correctly break down the story, because that's what I do for all subjects. Now people are like, Oh, now Tim finally understands, dude, when people
Starting point is 00:22:52 were claiming Trump was going to be reinstated in March, in February, in April, like no matter what happened, they were like, Trump will be truly inaugurated on this date. And I kept saying no, people attacked me for it. And then you have that video I mentioned where they're pulling bouts, one of the table. Watch the full video. I watched the full video. They actually put the, they collect bouts from people, like normal, put them in boxes, and at the end of the day, they pull them out to count them.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But a lot of people didn't see those videos. That's why I say stop with the fraud narrative. It's a trap. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, hold on. So years later, Tim heroically is claiming that he's always been a sage oasis of logic when it comes to the Trump election fraud claims and was in fact attacked for not believing the lie.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And he specifically is calling out the surveillance footage story where everyone went, ah, that proves all the fraud. Do we have a clip of that? To me, this is overwhelming evidence of legit serious voter fraud. So you might think this is a lie, because it is, but I have a theory here.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Maybe it's naive, I don't know, but it's wild to me that Tim specifically calls out a story that he fell for in the past and completely retcons it like Homer Simpson recounting an event. Like, what a bad and easy to avoid lie. Why not just call out a different claim? Why would he set himself up so perfectly like this? So what if Tim genuinely doesn't realize it's a lie?
Starting point is 00:24:23 A possible theory is that Tim Pool fell for the fraud claim and then a bunch of people on Twitter told him he was an idiot and the claim got debunked. And then years passed and Tim only vaguely remembered the event, he didn't bother to check his old videos because he's extremely lazy and likely just recalls that the video existed and someone thought it was election fraud proof, and then the video was debunked.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And so he just assumed that he was the smart one in that memory. We all know someone like this, right? That friend or coworker who constantly re-remembers events where they are always the funniest or wittiest, who conveniently forgets the time they claimed that Gatorade was healthier for you than water and you should give it to babies.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And you show up the next day at work with an article proving them wrong. And they're like, I don't know what you're talking about, Cody, let's just sell this weed before lunch. They steal your jokes and stories and retell them to people like they did that thing. We've all known a Tim Pool. And if you haven't, I have some bad news for you. And so while I hoped that this would just be a Tim Pool, and if you haven't, I have some bad news for you.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And so while I hoped that this would just be a fun episode where we play a bunch of silly and also terrible Tim guesses, it appears that we have to talk about the mechanics behind this beaniful mind, this idiosyncratic little fart in the wind, a deep dive into this shallow, shallow pool. So after the break, we'll do just that and continue to make fun of Tim's terrible guesses. Enjoy the ads, try to hold your breath while they play. Hey there, my love butts, listen to Cody.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Like you, I have Biden fever, which I guess is just COVID now. I don't have COVID, he does. Hot cup of Joe, as I call him. Everyone's talking about J-Bay, his hair, his legs, and of course, how the entire Democratic Party is tearing itself apart over whether or not he should run for reelection.
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Starting point is 00:31:03 Some more news! Okay, Tim Pool! World's worst guesser, Tim Pool. Before the break, we, as in I, theorize that while Tim Pool is perhaps a professional liar, it's possible that the biggest lies are the ones he tells himself. And unlike a lot of the other grifters we've covered on this show, Tim's biggest but not only problem revolves around the fact
Starting point is 00:31:25 that he is extremely tactless and comically easy to debunk. Other dildos like Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro often convolute their lies in a way where it takes longer to debunk the lie than to tell it. But Tim frequently debunks himself in the same breath. His entire schtick is that he live streams himself while badly guessing about various news headlines and half remembering his own convictions.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And we watch in real time as his subconscious hastily rewrites his own narrative in order to protect his ego like that guy in Memento. You know the guy, Pierce. But that's the how. The question we need to ask next is why. Why does Tim Poole do the things he does? I mean, money, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Easy question. How about this? Why does Tim Poole do the things he does so badly? It's not just that he guesses, but he guesses lazily. Often it seems like his mouth is just moving and his brain is catching up, which happens to us all sometimes. But unlike most people, Tim's mouth has some wild things to say.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Hey, remember those Hawaii wildfires? They want Taiwan. They're building up their military. There's a chance for escalation, a chance for conflict. They want the South China Sea. And then they've got ships with Russia coming near the Aleutians, coming near US territory, going near Hawaii, and then they're pulling off something like this. So look, how hard is it to start a fire? It's ridiculously easy to start a fire, and they can fire lasers? Okay, the Hawaii fires could be a Chinese laser, I guess.
Starting point is 00:33:00 It could also be those downed power lines that were spotted right before the fire, but sure, maybe lasers. That's certainly a guess you could make if you're like an idiot. And that actually poses an interesting question. Is Tim Pool an idiot? I know, it's a wild theory, but hear me out.
Starting point is 00:33:20 While I generally think that it's bad and counterproductive to hand wave any movement or person is stupid, I think in this case, Tim Pool might just be a dumb and mean guy with a big ego who doesn't really believe in anything. And while I also believe the term Dunning-Kruger effect has been thrown around a lot, that's the term for someone so incompetent
Starting point is 00:33:42 that they actually think they're a genius. And again, that gets tossed around a lot on the internet. But in this case, well. The best female skaters in the world are as good as 12 year old boys who've been skating for four months. You watch the women and you're like, I'm 38, semi-retired, and I could do all those tricks.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Oh, Tim, you know there are videos of you skateboarding, don't you? You know that I can just cut to you skateboarding. See? Do you see, Tim? Why would you set yourself up like that? Tim. I do think it's crazy that I'm about to be 34
Starting point is 00:34:22 and I have no family. Cause my dad had two kids by the time he was 27. And I'm like, man, you know what the problem is though? It's definitely not me. I think it's everybody else. Oh, Tim. Tim, please, please stop saying things. You are breaking my heart. I don't know. Was he joking?
Starting point is 00:34:44 Seems like something a comedian would say all deadpan. saying things, you are breaking my heart. I don't know, was he joking? Seems like something a comedian would say all deadpan. I'm sure he's claimed it was a joke after the fact, but yeah, Tim, if you're struggling to find a partner, I don't know, man, maybe it's stuff like this. When they come out and they accuse Andrew Tate of being all of this evil stuff, how much can you really believe it?
Starting point is 00:35:04 There's a challenge there. Because bad guys exist. There are people like Weinstein. They exist. Let's talk about Weinstein, however. Harvey, am I pronouncing it right? I don't know. This dude in Hollywood, they said that he was abusing all these women. It certainly seems like he'd abused a lot of them. But let's be real. Many of these women were abusing him. Oh, here comes the feminists all screaming and crying like, ah, sorry, no, I'm just gonna say it. How many women sought to bang Weinstein
Starting point is 00:35:35 thinking it would get them a leg up in Hollywood? Oh, here come the feminazis getting mad at me for saying that the women Harvey Weinstein raped actually wanted it. See, ladies, Tim is just telling it like it is about your kind. Tim, women expert. Women who he apparently also thinks maybe shouldn't vote? Single. Not his fault, your fault. But also, other guys fault too. If this young woman, I mean she looks like she's in her 20s, has only ever been around sneaky fucker types male feminists
Starting point is 00:36:06 Low t weak men lacking passion and ambition men who don't get up don't exercise don't improve themselves And she thought this is what men are Interesting perhaps one of the big reasons that many women are claiming to be LGBTQ is because they're not feeling strong attraction to males because they're not actually encountering real masculinity for which they would be attracted to. Yes, that is Tim blaming lesbians, a brand new phenomenon on feminine men. As in the reason he thinks that some women like other women
Starting point is 00:36:41 is that men act too much like women. Damn lesbians always hating feminine things. Lesbians famous for hating pussies. Hey Tim I'm gonna need you to admit on camera that by this logic the increasing masculinization of women is making you want to suck a man's dick. That's what you're saying. All of these unnecessarily manly women are making you want to curl up in the strong arms of a man to escape the women's manliness you see. Tim is not a man who like thinks before he says stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Not even for a second. It's like his one conviction. He wouldn't even think before he says stuff for money. Good thing he doesn't have to actually. And despite all of this, despite being vocally single, despite saying he has no family, no kids, Tim is more than happy to act like an expert on these things. I'm hanging out over the holidays and you know, I'm hanging out with this couple and they've got two kids that are like two and five years old or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And they're just like, dude, all this talk about gender neutral stuff and whatever, it's fake news. Because anybody who's raised children, is that a boy and a girl? They just know like, boys do things and girls do things. They were telling us like, for some reason, little boy has just started smashing things. Like no one ever told him to do it. And for some reason, little girls started picking up dolls and nurturing them. For real.
Starting point is 00:38:10 They were like, the little girl wants to carry on the dolls and baby them, and the little boy is just smashing things, and they're actually like, why are you doing that? Because little boys are different! That's right. Tim Poole, child and women expert, thinks that little girls don't like smashing things based on a conversation with a couple he was hanging out with over the holidays.
Starting point is 00:38:28 How is this not the type of conversation you'd have with some guy at the bar who gets increasingly sadder the more you learn about him? He's speaking with such confidence about something he very clearly has no actual firsthand experience with. And so I really think that Tim Pool is just a guy with a really inflated ego who thinks he's way smarter
Starting point is 00:38:46 than he is. And you can really tell that whenever he lies, or rather tries to lie. Like, you know the beanie? Sure you do. You've seen it in every clip. He doesn't take it off. And we all know why he wears it.
Starting point is 00:39:02 But when he was finally confronted about it when some other dumb guy tore his beanie off at an event, this is what he said. The dictionary definition of the word bigot. You are the apartment! Don't fucking touch me! We have a- Come here. You wanna know why I fucking wear the hat? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So these motherfuckers, so these motherfuckers can't fucking recognize me when I'm on the street. You wanna take a picture of me so I'm easily identified? Tim, you wear the beanie so nobody will recognize you? Tim, that's the claim that you're going with. The beanie that you've worn literally everywhere, including the White House and Mar-a-Lago. You wear it so people don't recognize you? Or wait, do you mean you wear like Slash, where you think when you take off the beanie,
Starting point is 00:39:50 you can walk the streets anonymously like Bruce Wayne? Because I have some bad news, Tim. We can tell it's you with or without the beanie. That's not really a big change. Tim, did you know that Clark Kent is Superman? And you can see here that beautiful collision between an inflated ego and lack of common sense. Despite being one of the wrongest and silliest persons ever, Tim seems to think that he's an institution vital to American culture.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And when we have a coffee shop in every little suburban area of this country, and some woman walks in to get her cold brew with a splash of cream, and while she's waiting for her blueberry muffin to be warmed up, she will look up at the TVs on the wall and it will be the Patrick Bett David podcast. It will be Steven Crowder. It will be Tim Kest IRL. These will be the shows that are running in the background. So when people are sitting there, that's what they're going to see.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Real conversations and real news. And that's how you win a culture war. And you know what? They will be angry, leftist, screaming, crying, but we've never catered to them in the first place, so we don't care. Yes. Winning. Tim is winning the culture war, according to Tim, who at one point claimed that his band, he has a band, did I mention that? Tim has a band called Timcast. He named it after his podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And Tim has claimed that his band would be more popular than Taylor Swift if it weren't for like the system, man. More of my fans buy my music than Taylor Swift buys hers. If Taylor Swift could sell, they would do it. The problem is they have lost all of their influence and the only control they have is the machine, the mechanism that forces you to listen to their music. If Taylor Swift was not placed
Starting point is 00:41:40 on the digital streaming platforms because these companies are given preference, then nobody would listen to our music. Tim, you're almost 40. You are a right-wing commentator who dresses like a narc and has a dad rock band that plays like emo pop punk. I'm sorry, you're just not that cool. Hey, how much of their band can we legally show?
Starting point is 00:42:01 ["Lost in the Night"] can we legally show? Did you know I left you there? Staring at the part I hear in your soul Is your heart Spilled to pieces That much, we can show that much. And if that clip was just a black screen, I will say that Tim's band is... It's fine. It's not my thing.
Starting point is 00:42:24 There are some talented musicians involved, I'm sure. But I think, I think it's generic and bad music. Unremarkable and melodically just kind of a ripoff of a Paramore song. The chorus is, did you know I left you there, staring at the heartache in your soul as your heart fell to pieces. Heart twice, so close together,
Starting point is 00:42:43 really evocative and unique lyrics. It's fine. I don't know. I think it sucks. Whatever. Sorry about your breakup, Tim, guy who has gone on record saying that he's been single and it's specifically everyone else's fault. But the idea that he would somehow do the global numbers of Taylor Swift is once again this perfect example of the dumb little bubble Tim has crafted around his world. This perfect lie where he's the bestest boy if only the establishment would admit it. Like, Tim, I get it. I'm pushing 40 myself. I have a political show that heavily features corn and puppets. I also have a band, The Hot Shapes. Our first album, Laverne, is available to stream on Soundcloud and purchase on Bandcamp.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Notice how I didn't name my band Some More News, Tim. But if my band was suddenly doing better numbers than Taylor Swift, I'd kind of assume I was in a coma and living out a fantasy as my brain slowly died. I'd assume something was fundamentally wrong with our youth that they would suddenly glom onto me and my news show over a 30 year old singer-songwriter who looks like a supermodel. That would be a dark day for America, Tim. Am I saying my band is bad? No. Available now on Soundcloud. We're awesome. I'm just saying that young people aren't going to overwhelmingly like the stuff our generation likes. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I mean, they're wrong, but it's fine. And it's how the world works, Tim. You're not 20 anymore, Tim. Take the beanie off and stop trying to lure kids into your Neverland Ranch skate park. So this is when you first walk in the doors. We got the arcade machine. We got slot machine for some reason. We got these workstations. skate park. Mike came out, he hit the grind bar. It's been done. That's it. You laid your state, you get a little flag in it.
Starting point is 00:44:45 But to other people, man, I don't care what you do. If you've got something fun you wanna do in the park or come hang out and film something, airsoft, whatever, you know, we're trying to open it up to as many people as we can, but it's still a private space, so. That is footage from Tim's office slash skate park slash compound I mentioned earlier.
Starting point is 00:45:01 His words, compound. This is like the first time we film, filmed actually walking through a compound, I guess. You can call it a compound. Yeah, I do not think you can call that a compound, but whatever. And actually. So they have to lie about it and say things like,
Starting point is 00:45:18 it's a cult or a compound. Okay, so he doesn't want you to call it a compound? That video is very funny. He just whines about how his compound is not a compound, should give him the cool factor and inspire people. And he gave a tour like MTV Cribs, a really fresh reference that really shows how cool you are. I don't know, maybe I'm being a little mean.
Starting point is 00:45:36 You know, I like video games and slot machines and massage chairs, but that place looks like shit. I know it sounds a little elitist to say, like I would love a house, don't get me wrong. Sometimes I just start crying in the lawnmower section of Home Depot. But according to him, Tim is a millionaire and his big cool HQ compound is like a messy dorm basement
Starting point is 00:45:57 that's also trying to be an office slash community center or something. Like looking at that video, I don't want to be physically in that space. It's like a dingy stoner pad. It's not really well decorated and it feels pretty creepy to be like, Hey, everyone come to my private skateboard compound. I have boxed wine. He's like a hillbilly shredder. Boy, I could have done an entire video about Tim Poole's skateboarding compound.
Starting point is 00:46:22 At one point we see inside his house and he doesn't appear to have any furniture. And it's just an extension of one of those suburban McMansions everyone hates. It looks terrible. The actual skate park is just his garage with a don't tread on me flag. Again, I don't wanna be mean, but it really looks like the house of the guy
Starting point is 00:46:39 your parents told you not to go near. I don't know, I guess I do wanna be mean, but I actually feel bad right now. Like that video is three years old, so maybe it's nicer now. I hope it's nicer now. Man, this was supposed to be fun. I don't feel fun. I feel sad. But cheer up, Cody, because if you recall, I didn't just say that Tim Poole was a dumb guy with an inflated ego, I said he was a dumb mean guy with an inflated ego. For example, here's Tim talking with his editor in chief about how they can legally hurt people
Starting point is 00:47:14 who wander near their big dumb houses. If you come within... If you come anywhere near my house, you're on my property. Yeah. In a castle doctrine state. Same. I'm like, I mean, I'm really out there and the closest, I mean, my mailbox is a mile away from my house.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I'm not kidding. An actual mile from my house. So I mean, if anyone comes anywhere near me, I even thought about putting land mines in on my street. You can't legally do that, can you? I probably not. The mice or the squirrels will block. Cool gun necklace!
Starting point is 00:47:48 So which is it, Tim? You want to have this hip skate park or a doom prepper fortress? I'm not sure he knows the answer. Remember this? You know, we're trying to open it up to as many people as we can, but it's still a private space, so.
Starting point is 00:48:00 We're trying to just open it up, but also don't come here or you'll die! I don't know, Tim. Those are some weird ass signals you're sending out. It's like watching a promo video for a children's Scientology summer camp. Tim is constantly struggling between his laid back skate bro persona
Starting point is 00:48:16 and his deep seated rich guy asshole brain. You can watch him suppress it in real time like he's the Hulk on a Japanese game show. Back in 2023, a DIY skate park near Tim ran a best trick contest. And being the chill skate punk he is, Tim tried to donate toward the prize money and got hilariously rejected
Starting point is 00:48:38 by the people holding the contest. You know, because he sucks. And he tried to insert himself into their event. And as a response, Tim, totally not mad, announced that he was going to buy his own land to build his own skate park. Don't you already have a skate park, Tim? Remember your weird compound park?
Starting point is 00:48:57 Anyway, it turns out that several months later, Tim would buy the land that DIY skate park was on, the one that rejected him. He did it under his extremely ironically titled shell company, Will of the People. And when that DIY skate park went on Instagram to tell everyone what Tim did, Tim half denied it, tweeting, quote, I am being accused of spending $850,000 to buy the land under a DIY skate park
Starting point is 00:49:27 because they wouldn't let me skate there. While the idea of me buying a million dollar plot in three weeks is absurd, I do own it though. I will allow them to believe every bit of it cause it's based. Okay, so it's absurd to think he purchased the land, but also he does own the land. So he did purchase it, but he totally didn't do it out of spite, but it would be totally
Starting point is 00:49:51 based if he did, which he didn't, but so cool if true. Boy, that really sounds like a stupid person trying to lie about doing something mean. He also claimed that he totally would have let the DIY group stay on the land he purchased under them, which one assumes is also based of him, and then seemed to imply that they were pedophiles or something, which again, based. This is all very based. And so ultimately it sure seems like Tim wanted to be involved with these cool young local DIY skaters, got rejected, said he was going to buy his own land, and then purchased their fucking park from under them as revenge, and is now trying
Starting point is 00:50:39 really hard not to admit to himself that he's the villain in an 80s skateboarding movie. The rich conservative land developer forcing everyone to play with him because you don't get it kids He's actually really based if you get to know him and I think the reason why Tim can't reconcile his desire to be this hipskate dude and political journalist slash commentator is because his opinions are Uncool and mean he has the body of a youngish Gen X dude and the brain of a 90 year old Facebook conservative stockpiling ammo. Allow me to demonstrate.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I do think it's fair to be like my child is not old enough to learn about sex ed and the birds and the bees. When it comes to innocence and all that stuff, I'm like, dude, I'm not saying the kids should be in the mines. They do yearn for that. Minecraft is proof. But kids should have jobs. Children should be working. And I will say that with absolute vigor. Hey dudes, I'm skateboarding T here to rap with you with
Starting point is 00:51:38 vigor that kids should have jobs and not learn about sex. Check out my band. I named it after my political podcast. Also, I don't care if you die. No amount of children dying should justify someone having their rights taken away. That's just it. That's just it. My Lord, Tim, you can probably guess that he's talking about guns there.
Starting point is 00:52:01 There are a lot of clips like this, clips that I don't really need to debunk so much as let's speak for themselves where Tim will just say the type of silly and obviously wrong stuff you hear on Fox News. Here he is rambling about how he watched an AI video about Christmas and mourn his lost nostalgia because people named their kids Mohammed or something.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I saw on Instagram an AI generated video which created the most intense version of this feeling. I would say it's akin to some kind of nostalgia, some kind of like feeling of home. It was an AI video of a cabin with a full 20 foot glass wall, overlooking, from the hilltop, overlooking the town with heavy snow falling,
Starting point is 00:52:44 a fireplace, and a tv playing cartoons You want to share that feeling you want your children to know these feelings? Something truly fascinating Now I think this is why people say I'm i'm upset when I hear that muhammad is Is the most popular name because it's that thing you grew up with, that connection to your roots, to your history, that the feeling you get, it's going away.
Starting point is 00:53:11 A couple things. For starters, akin to some kind of nostalgia, Tim, that's just nostalgia. Also, you don't have kids to share that with. Also, yes, nostalgia goes away. That's why it's nostalgia. Also, you can still watch cartoons in the snow. In fact, you can watch cartoons from the 80s
Starting point is 00:53:28 thanks to streaming. And the only reason that might go away is because the snow itself is going away, for some reason. Also, it's not truly fascinating. You like the AI video of snow and cartoons because when you were a kid, you watched cartoons while it snowed. because when you were a kid, you watched cartoons while it snowed.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And when you were a kid, you didn't have to worry about anything, and you just want to go back to simpler, easier times. It's not complicated or deep. Why are you talking like that? But mostly, Tim. You know who else had a weird Middle Eastern name? Jesus. Bad opinion, Tim. Which is kind of like a bad guess. Opinions are just the guesses of the feelings after all. Man, there are so many clips. We're gonna be here forever. Let's keep it moving.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Here he is getting mad at his own website for being too woke about immigration. Capital to handle the massive influx of asylum seekers. Come on, Adrian. This is Tim Kess dot com over here. We don't call these people asylum seekers. We just call them illegal immigrants. OK, I'm sorry. Criminal immigrants probably better. Oh, yeah. Not your granddaddy's conservative weight correction. Exactly like your granddaddy's conservative. More. Give me more. I hunger. When the mob comes to your house like they, like they did to the McCloskeys,
Starting point is 00:54:47 and they threaten you, and they tell you they're gonna take your home and burn it to the ground, and if you try to defend yourself, they're gonna come out in the media, they're gonna launch these finance campaigns and say, You're the bad guy. That's right, cool kids. It's Mr. TP, here to say that the left will burn your house down. For the record, he's talking about a GoFundMe for one of the guys who was killed going after Kyle Rittenhouse
Starting point is 00:55:09 after he'd already shot someone. Tim is furious that people are heroizing a guy who thought he was stopping an active shooter. Standing his ground, something the right loves to glorify. Tim is pissed. I don't know, maybe Tim's just mad that this victim was referred to as a witty and awesome skateboarder by his loved ones.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Something that no one has ever said about Tim. Womp womp. Okay, just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with being bad at skateboarding, or being single or not having a family, or being a little slow. Everyone is dumb about something or another. There's a reason that this show you are watching has multiple writers and editors and researchers and fact checkers, because no one person is an expert on how the world works.
Starting point is 00:55:49 They have niche things they are smart about. Heck, there's nothing wrong with having confidence in yourself, even overconfidence. I know this because I'm really good at reading people and can do sex the best. But with Tim and a lot of these similar grifters, it's often the combination of these traits used specifically to bully other people, to spread hate and misinformation to audiences
Starting point is 00:56:11 of millions with such overt overconfidence that they often just say it with zero self-reflection. I think books are archaic. I think books are great. They're archaic. Why? In the modern era, you can actively fact-check what it is you're reading. So I remember reading a physics book. This is a while back, 10 years ago. I thought it was all fascinating. Later on, I started looking some of these ideas up and found that they had been corrected and they were wrong. And I said, okay, here's a problem. This book contains information, some of which is no longer accurate. Why should I read it? You see, Tim once read a book about physics. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:56:50 And then he looked up some of the stuff later, and some of the science had changed. So he decided to stop reading books, which are too archaic for him, and to only read things that don't need to be updated or confirmed or fact-checked. The internet. You know what else you could read instead, Tim?
Starting point is 00:57:08 New books. I'm starting to form a theory about why Tim's guesses are so bad. Tim Poole doesn't aspire to better himself and in fact is proud of how ignorant he is. He disgustingly flaunts it like a golden cock ring. Like a lot of people drop out of school. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:57:26 The writer of this episode dropped out of high school and he's doing fine. But Tim Poole proudly dropped out of high school. And according to him, he intentionally refused to get a GED, heroically. And he wants others to be just as mean and ignorant as he is. You left school at 14? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And then just... Yeah, I went to high school for like two months. You're just like, I can't, I'm done. Oh, it's the stupidest waste of time. Wow. Yeah, it's- You're not advocating not graduating high school, though. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Really? He loves- It's a waste of time. Waste of time, kids. Just ask Tim Poole, the worst guesser who ever lived. And I know what Tim would say, he'd point out that, if he's so stupid, why is he so rich? And yeah, that's actually a good question.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Because frankly, it's weird that he can be this obviously misinformed, this proudly ignorant, guess so poorly, so consistently, and get rich doing it. I mean, it's not that weird, as evidenced by other rich people, but after the break, we're gonna find out how this happened. I'm sorry, I thought this was gonna be fun,
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Starting point is 01:00:36 S-H-O-P-M-A-N-D-O.com. Ah! Hey now, we'reO.com. Ah! Hey now, we're back. Hi, we're doing a Tim Pool. We're diving in that pool, that toxic shallow pool. We discussed how Tim Pool just seems like a really overconfident dumb guy and gave many examples.
Starting point is 01:00:59 And here's another one. Remember that libel suit against Tim? It turns out that Tim Poole actually tried to represent himself in court. And what was really strange is that most of these defendants were represented by counsel when we were talking to them. The only one that wasn't was Tim Poole, who thought that he could negotiate with me
Starting point is 01:01:17 without an attorney. Oh my gosh. And he didn't show any retraction either. Tim Poole, law expert, proud GED refuser. It seems clear that Tim Poole is so overconfident and dumb that he is capable of actively sabotaging himself. It's a very specific type of dumb and reckless we see with people like Trump or Alex Jones,
Starting point is 01:01:37 where they get by for way too long and then in theory, eventually see consequences. We're especially seeing this with Jones, whose empire appears to be dissolving before our eyes like a dead raccoon in a hot tub. And as I said at the start of this, I do not think this libel suit will be the only lawsuit Tim Poole sees.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And someday, maybe not soon enough, we could easily see Tim sabotage his little empire into oblivion. But right now, it's easy to see why Tim Poole is so overly confident, the same way someone like Trump was so overly confident. For the first half of Tim's life, he's been able to get rich by having absolutely zero knowledge or skills. And I think the reason for that is simple and because of two things.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Number one, Tim Poo Pool was exactly in the right place at the right time. And number two, Tim Pool doesn't actually believe in anything and was willing to say whatever he needed to get ahead. There's a very good Daily Beast article recounting Tim's rise to fame, which he mainly accomplished by lying
Starting point is 01:02:42 and constantly changing his convictions. Because I don't know if you remember this, but Tim Poole wasn't always a right-wing ghoul. He started his career as an Occupy Wall Street activist who made the news by utilizing modern media tactics that in 2011 were seen as cutting edge, such as live streaming and drone cameras. He wasn't the only person doing this, mind you,
Starting point is 01:03:04 but he was there. And at the time, Tim presented himself as a centrist who nonetheless sided with the movement. Quote, I feel like I'm 80% of the time unbiased. And then I have that natural Occupy Wall Street is fighting for the people in me. So I did come down here to support the movement. I'm not going to deny it or lie about it.
Starting point is 01:03:26 It would take Tim only 10 months to deny that and lie about it, telling El País that he was, quote, not an activist. Six years later, Tim would claim that he never supported Occupy Wall Street. I don't align with Occupy Wall Street and never did. I actually, I'm particularly anti-authoritarian, so when you had this weird regressive authoritarianism happening during Occupy, I told him to fuck off. Boy, for a journalist, Tim doesn't seem to realize that people record the things he says,
Starting point is 01:03:53 but I'm getting ahead of myself. Back in the 2010s, Tim was still seen as this hip new citizen journalist. This is no doubt how he still sees himself today, but by all accounts, Tim was more of an empty vessel than anything else. He was hired by Vice in 2013, and to the frustration of his coworkers, Tim presented a quote, deficit of ideas.
Starting point is 01:04:14 According to a former member of Vice's video team, there was frustration about his inability to do a repeat hit like his coverage of Occupy Wall Street. But Tim remained there because of how quote, seemingly oblivious the upper management and the execs advice were to the fact that Tim Poole was a total hack. Tim of course denies this and claims to the Daily Beast
Starting point is 01:04:35 that he quote, constantly flew into chaos. Do we have a clip of the chaos? We're just back on the live feed. We were switching batteries. There's a guy here that's showing us one of the tear gas canisters that police shot at protesters before. Okay, just to be clear, that main video isn't Tim Poole. If you look closely, Tim's livestream is in the corner there.
Starting point is 01:04:57 This is Vice's 2014 coverage of the Ferguson protests, and for this entire 34 minute video, they never swap over to Tim, who from what I can tell, never goes near anyone or does anything. You can just skip through the video and see. Here's 10 minutes into the video. But could you tell me what you've seen tonight? There's water. There's protests that lasted well into the morning.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I'm fine. Thank you. Come on. And here's 20 minutes into the video. But some of the people I talked to said that, you know, you guys have tried to stop protesters, but for instance, when they call 911 while their stores are getting looted,
Starting point is 01:05:31 there was no response to that. And here's 25 minutes into the video. I don't think I'm the guy you wanna talk to. You're doing fine. Yeah, you sound great. You don't have an accent, I don't have an accent. I did talk to Tim Iselle once. Boy, he is just in that same parking lot
Starting point is 01:05:45 the whole time, isn't he? And around this same time, they just completely stopped showing his stream, presumably because he went to Waffle House or something and forgot the camera was on. Despite this, Tim has boasted that he's covered conflict and protest in several countries, but it's really hard to find much evidence
Starting point is 01:06:02 of him actually getting in the shit. I'm not saying he never got near violence or conflict, just that it's clear he did as little as he had to. And more often than not, his videos seem more obsessed with the cool tech he's using instead of the protest itself. Here's a video out of Vice where Tim covered the Gezi Park protest in Istanbul,
Starting point is 01:06:22 and most of it is about how he used Google Glass to do it. Okay, Glass, take a picture. Right now I am in Istanbul, Turkey, here to report live on the ongoing protests. The audience I'm trying to reach is everyone, me personally. I want as many people as possible to know about what's going on and to care about things
Starting point is 01:06:42 that I believe are changing the world. It's like a documentary about how Tim Pool is a journalist and all his cool gadgets. Like he's more interested in being seen doing the thing than the thing itself. That's incredible. That's incredible. You know, one megabit up isn't great,
Starting point is 01:07:04 but it's more than enough that I need. Cool Tim, glad your internet works. Again, there are moments where we see actual coverage of the protests, but it's unclear if Tim is actually present for those. Whenever we do see Tim, he is often just describing a thing that he missed. This morning was, it was intense.
Starting point is 01:07:23 As soon as I got down here, I heard, I saw posts from my friend Jenna about tear gas being fired, about water cannons. She got tear gassed and she got hit with a water cannon. Oh yeah, this morning, it was so intense how I read these posts about stuff other people did. Tim, did you not wake up in time? Do you like to sleep in? This is the whole video,
Starting point is 01:07:43 a 15 minute Google Glass promo that ends with Tim Pool across the street from a tear gas hotel, claiming that he was totally over there a minute ago, but not showing any footage. The inside of the Devon, I just went in there. It's, there's tear gas. Just the inside is just full of tear gas. Now multiple times police have fired tear gas
Starting point is 01:08:02 into the lobby of this hotel, resulting in several injuries. People are being carried out. They seem to be unconscious. Make sure to stay tuned, share the information on Twitter, share the link on Twitter so people know what's happening. Boy, it really seems like he was just at his hotel
Starting point is 01:08:19 and this happened. Also, bad guess about the relevance of Google Glass, Tim. Anyway, that's Tim in Istanbul. He also covered the rebellion in Thailand where he... We decided to leave the Dindang area and make our way back to the hotel and get our bearings. But we just saw a PDRC stage demolished and we're hopping some motorcycle taxis
Starting point is 01:08:38 to make our way back, trying to figure out what's happening. Rode around on mopeds? No, really. Here's his Vimeo page titled Ty Revolt. And it's mainly just videos of Tim Poole riding around on mopeds away from the action on VICE's dime, I assume. He's just riding around,
Starting point is 01:08:57 sometimes talking about what's going on, but not actually showing it. This is a really cool thing. I'm gonna go ahead and crisis that's been going on for many, many years. Hard-hitting stuff. To be fair, Tim does put feet on the ground, but much like his Istanbul coverage, it's almost entirely just him claiming
Starting point is 01:09:22 that a thing just happened while the camera shakes so hard you can't watch more than five seconds without getting a headache. We're trying to figure out what our exits are. You know, if things go south, we need to know where to be. And obviously, if we get any inclination that there's going to be armed conflict, we're going to leave immediately. Protesters are using M16s and AK-47s. There have been M70 grenades. This is a particularly dangerous situation,
Starting point is 01:09:51 though we're not seeing an active frontline and heavy armed conflict. We're just seeing sporadic violence around the city. So make sure to stay tuned. Oh yeah, and be sure to follow them on Twitter. Check out vice.com. Hopefully we've got many updates for you on the site and you can follow us on Twitter at Timcast.
Starting point is 01:10:08 So it's safe to say that Tim Poole wasn't actually a very good journalist. He did it for a few years and mainly focused on himself and the technology he was using. But that was enough to get his name, presumably Timothy Cast, out there. He was the live stream Google Glass drone dude. It didn't matter that he didn't actually get good footage,
Starting point is 01:10:28 it was hip and fresh. Then at some point around 2014, Tim Pool would set off on his own. And a few years later in 2017, Tim would learn an extremely valuable lesson. If you're too lazy to be an effective journalist, it turns out you can just make stuff up. Donald Trump had just become the president after all.
Starting point is 01:10:48 And Tim saw the sloppy yarn that guy spun, one such yarn being that there was a crime wave in Sweden. This was by all accounts, just one of the many weird rambles we've become hauntingly accustomed to by a guy who was... Yeah, president of the United States, it seems. And like a lot of weird Donald Trump ramblings, the right wing became determined to prove that it was true.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Specifically, right wing has been Paul Joseph Watson put out the prove Sweden is filled with crime challenge, offering to pay any journalist to go to Sweden and document that there's a crime problem there. You know how all good reporting starts with a conclusion and then works backward via money to force that conclusion? And Tim, being completely untethered from any institution or morality, took Watson up on this.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Trump is making a reference to reported crime, right? There's this perceived rape and sexual assault epidemic hitting many other countries in Europe. And a lot of Trump supporters take these stories to, you know, be evidence of a problem with refugees and migrants. In fact, the New York Times, which was critical of Donald Trump's statement last night in Sweden, talking about how Sweden was calling him out for it, does have a story referencing, you know, over 40 instances of sexual assault at a music festival in which they actually say that of seven suspects being questioned by the police, six of them were foreign.
Starting point is 01:12:17 You can already see that he's beginning to court the right with the exact same talking points as Trump. But to be clear, Tim still claims to be a completely objective party who just needs some money to go to Sweden so he can, I guess, talk to people. This is where I make the announcement that I am going to be traveling to Sweden and France and some other countries in Europe to actually figure out what the hell is really going on. I'll say this, I don't side with anybody.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I'm a skeptic, I guess. So when I hear these stories, I say, okay, well, let's look into this and figure out if it's true or not. I will be setting up a GoFundMe so that we can raise money to produce a series of videos on the ground across Europe, interviewing real people on all sides
Starting point is 01:13:03 of the political spectrum to figure out if anything is happening, what is it? Yes, real people on all sides. You might be wondering why you'd need to fund this one dude to go to Sweden and walk around and talk to people. Like Sweden has their own reporters, right? You don't need to pay a guy to go walk around. But amazingly, this worked. Tim got $20,000 for his trip.
Starting point is 01:13:28 The result being a series of videos where Tim Pool just walks around Sweden, films nothing of substance, and talks to people he could have easily called on the phone. This includes the Deputy Mayor of Malmo, who seven minutes in debunks the entire idea that immigrants are causing an increase in sexual assaults.
Starting point is 01:13:46 People have said that there is a huge influx in sexual crimes in Sweden. We've been told that it's simply because Sweden has a wider law, more encompassing, and that people tend to report more. But I guess I'd like to get your thoughts on the whole issue and just talk about it a little bit. Well, Sweden has changed its laws regarding sexual assault and rape
Starting point is 01:14:08 and sexual misconduct in a way that is more encompassing. So more actions are defined as rape or sexual assault now than before and every report is followed up and you will get support for the crime victims and often rather speedy trials. And that increases the will to report the crime. If you know that something will be done, then you're more likely to report.
Starting point is 01:14:41 So there you have it. Solved. He goes on to say that while they are overrepresented in crime statistics, there is no evidence that refugees are committing violent crimes specifically. But the crimes we've seen, the violent crimes, we have nothing to support, no evidence in support of thinking that it's the refugees who are committing these crimes.
Starting point is 01:15:03 The violent crimes, the murders, or the shootings, or whatever. Cool. Video over. But Tim isn't satisfied with this. This deputy mayor, after all, is a lib. And I'll also say, look, Nils, he said he's biased, and you know that that's a very liberal perspective, so take that into account.
Starting point is 01:15:22 We've got more interviews to do, we've got more experts to meet, and this is a daily thing. So, you know, expect more. So he claims that he's gonna go out and talk to more experts on the matter. Those experts include the random guy he's staying with who once saw a single crime scene
Starting point is 01:15:38 and also a kid setting off fireworks. Have there been any other incidents like that or any kind of, maybe not a murder, but have you seen robberies or gang activity? No, none at all. I mean, there was one 14 year old that had like a pretty loud cracker, you know. Firecracker? Firecracker, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Next, he talks to an anonymous dude who works in the car business and claims that a certain type of person steals cars. It's never, or I should not say never, because it happens of course that students also commit crimes, but the majority of the crimes involved in car thefts, like stolen parts, frauds, we can see clearly behind the scenes that it's definitely one type of group of people. Still getting nothing, Tim just goes and walks around a problem area, the problem being that there aren't any problems there. So we're walking around Rosengard.
Starting point is 01:16:54 It's kind of boring. Tim is clearly getting frustrated, and here's where we start to see the turn. For his next video, he meets with Chang Frick, a man he claims is a journalist who clearly has a poor opinion of immigrants. We're about to meet with Chiang Frick, who some people say is controversial.
Starting point is 01:17:14 They say that he's aligned with the right-wing party here. Others say he's a good journalist. The Swedes, if I use that word, or immigrants have been living here for enough time. The criminality amongst these people have been living here for enough time, the criminality amongst these people have been really decreasing. So if we didn't have this big immigration, the numbers would be really low.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Again, nothing happens. They drive around, go to a mall, and it ends with Tim looking at Chang's computer as he shows him photos of crime scenes. Could have just been an email. But what Tim is not revealing in this video is that Chang Frick is actually a former right-wing politician who runs the Swedish equivalent of the Daily Wire.
Starting point is 01:17:53 He's not an expert, he's not a random citizen or impartial journalist, and this pattern would keep going. For his next video, Tim would meet up with Ivar Arpi, who as the Daily Beast outlined, is just another right-wing columnist who once complained that Google results cater to the blacks and gays. Google, much like Grok, is woke, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:18:15 But again, Tim just says he's a personality and maybe controversial and shrugs it off. We're gonna go meet with this guy, Ivar, who is a journalist, he's a personality, and apparently has a really good perspective on what's going on here, though it might be controversial. I don't know, I'm not Swedish. I don't know, I'm not Swedish, says the guy who's specifically covering Sweden as
Starting point is 01:18:36 a journalist. You see here how the guessing has begun. Tim has just completely stopped trying to give context, and is just walking around talking to propagandists extremely ready to take their word for it. These videos are amazing in that they show Tim's origin story in real time. He purportedly tries to do real journalism, gets bored, and by the end, he's just flat out lying
Starting point is 01:19:00 in order to push a right-wing perspective. Of course, maybe the big giveaway there was that he specifically went on a right-wing perspective. Of course, maybe the big giveaway there was that he specifically went on a right-wing propagandist's dime. He talked to a single politician who immediately and rationally answers the question around immigration and crime. He handwaves the guy for being leftist
Starting point is 01:19:16 and then goes and talks to the most extreme racists he can find while vaguely calling them controversial. At one point, he runs into three dudes in a bowling alley who Tim claims he just happens to meet. They chat about immigration like it's a casual encounter. And what Tim completely omits is that those three random guys were actually three far right conspiracy theorists, at least one of whom is known for blaming Jews
Starting point is 01:19:43 for the Holocaust. They're just Nazi dudes that wanted to be in Tim's little movie. When Tim was confronted about this on an AMA, he just completely shrugs it off. He doesn't see the problem. After all, he got paid. Ultimately, Tim saw nothing substantial
Starting point is 01:20:00 in his all expenses paid trip to Sweden. The most that happens is a part where he claims the cops escorted him out of an area, lest he be assaulted by some ruffians. The police have just warned us that if we don't leave now and take this escort, it's gonna get really bad really fast. They said 50 people could be here in minutes and they recognize us.
Starting point is 01:20:24 They're masking up. We have to leave. Two things. Firstly, Tim, we can see that there are families with kids walking around. It's a strip mall, not a war zone. Also, no, according to the Swedish police, they never told Tim Poole this.
Starting point is 01:20:38 He's a liar. Now to be clear, cops are also liars. But so is Tim. He's quite the also a liar. And a weirdo who is filming young people and they got upset. That's actually what happened. Tim Poole, cool skate guy, creeped out some kids.
Starting point is 01:20:54 But this began Tim Poole's descent into the lucrative world of right-wing guessing. After all, he just got paid $20,000 to go on a vacation. And for the right, it didn't matter that Tim wasn't very good at what he did. Tim represented a victory. Big air quotes, centrist slash left-wing journalist who turned to the other side. The obvious trick being that Tim never believed in anything to begin with, nor does he today. One of the things Tim Poole loves to do is even bigger air quotes, troll people online.
Starting point is 01:21:27 He seems to think it's really clever, like a dumb guy would. For example, here he is tweeting, "'Believing in God should be illegal'." And then tweeting, "'It should be illegal to not believe in God.' Here he is saying, "'Trans rights are human rights.' Here he is saying, "'Tax the rich.'
Starting point is 01:21:43 You get it, it's not hard to get.'" Especially when Tim later brags about how smart he is. There's actual opinions in there. Which one's the real one? Maybe you can come to one of my podcasts and try and figure out how I really feel about things. Do I really want to abolish the ATF? I said abolishing the police is wrong. What's my real opinion?
Starting point is 01:22:02 Go ahead and figure it out, journalists. You won't be able to. Which means any tweet ever used by any publication from me will be them publishing complete bunk BS because you will not be able to determine which one of my tweets is real. Which one is the real Tim, journalists? Am I over here or am I over here?
Starting point is 01:22:21 You have walked right into my Riddler's house of mirrors. It's very funny that he thinks he's tricking people, like a child just covering his face while playing hide and seek, or a guy wearing a beanie to cover up his insecurity. Tim, buddy, we know what you believe, or rather what you pretend to believe. We know what political side you cater to. We see the people you hang out with and do videos with. Like I sometimes tweet sarcastic things
Starting point is 01:22:48 that if you didn't know me, you'd possibly think we're genuine. But it's almost always framed as a joke and coincides with something in the news. Tim is apparently shotgun blasting random opinions to throw people off his scent. And what's amazing is that he's not lying here, not fully. Ultimately, Tim is admitting what I've been saying
Starting point is 01:23:08 this whole time, that he doesn't believe in anything and wants to A, be wrong as much as he usually is and have an excuse for that, and B, maintain plausible deniability so that he can stay completely malleable with his audience. So that if in the future it's more lucrative to be a libertarian or leftist or perhaps a Nazi, Tim can just hop over to that side.
Starting point is 01:23:33 That's it, it's not complicated and it's certainly not clever. I am not the world's smartest man. Indeed. And this is where we talk about the real harm that this becaps dildo is doing. This terrible guesser somehow allowed to influence the world. And this is where we talk about the real harm that this becaps dildo is doing. This terrible guesser somehow allowed to influence the world.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Because you remember that mass shooter we keep bringing up? You know that Neo-Nazi that shot all those people? A shooting that Tim blamed on someone else? Well, you know who the actual Neo-Nazi murderer was a fan of? Tim Poole. He was a fan of Tim Poole. Of course he was.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Along with posting his swastikas on that social media site, the shooter posted some Tim Poole. He was a fan of Tim Poole. Of course he was. Along with posting his swastikas on that social media site, the shooter posted some Tim Poole and other right-wing clips. Of course he did. Because since his trip to Sweden, Tim Poole has ramped up his courting of right-wing extremists.
Starting point is 01:24:16 While the stuff he says is often just stupid and unintentionally funny, Tim's podcasts frequently host far-right extremists and flat-out white supremacists. For example, Tim has had John Doyle on his show a few times. Doyle's a vocal white nationalist who bums around with like Nick Fuentes. Here he is on his YouTube show, Heck Off Commie,
Starting point is 01:24:34 talking about Martin Luther King, where he seems to imply that his assassination was a conspiracy and not the conspiracy you're thinking of. And so it was probably calculated that it would be better to take out MLK and cement him as a martyr for the religion of equality for the rest of time, than it would be to basically let him fade away
Starting point is 01:24:51 as he lost more standing within the eyes of the movement and of the public. Because without the assassination, he wouldn't have a legacy, and I guarantee you he wouldn't have a holiday. He would have become someone like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. Like eventually the information about the scandals
Starting point is 01:25:04 would have gone public His infidelity his communist ties his plagiarism But now because he was assassinated nobody cares about that because the story goes that he died fighting for equality And he was killed by a racist white man like that cancels out any and all criticism I know there's a lot to unpack there, but like dude the FBI literally tried to blackmail him into killing himself You don't know what you're talking about. But also, I just can't get past this heck off meme speak title that he chose to put in
Starting point is 01:25:30 like a movie theater sign behind him. Heck off, Hitler is the goat. Anyway, you see his deal. Here he is saying pretty explicitly that the civil rights movement is why cities are bad because of all the black people having rights and whatnot. You can thank the civil rights movement for the disasters that are now American cities. Go ahead,
Starting point is 01:25:48 ask your grandparents how nice it used to be to go into the city, to use public transportation, to use public facilities. They'll tell you, conservatives, because they are addicted to losing, will say, well, the cities are bad because the Democrat policies and public transportation is bad and public facilities are bad because the gosh darn government, they can't do anything right. No, it's a bit more complicated than that. My experience at the post office, the United States post office is a lot smoother
Starting point is 01:26:11 in Democrat run Vermont than it is in Democrat run St. Louis. You can tell me why. Buddy, I do not think you need that Adderall prescription. Anyway, heck off, you racist. We don't need to spend time on this messed up Nazi. But Tim does, he has him on the show. And we have John Doyle. Yes, thank you for having me, glad to be back. Glad to be back, says the guy who thinks the civil rights movement was bad for America. I'm sure if Tim was here, he'd point out
Starting point is 01:26:35 that he also has leftists on his show as well. For example, Gamer Destiny was also a guest in that previous clip. But that argument would go down smoother if Tim's right-wing guests weren't so frequently on the fringes and bordering on Nazi shit. Like if you just had Dave Rubin or Ben Shapiro on a lot, I get it, I guess.
Starting point is 01:26:53 But for example, here's a round table he did a few months ago with a guy named Patrick Casey. Oh man, we got too much to talk about. Yeah, I'm Patrick Casey. I'm a writer, I write for Chronicles Magazine, I've written for American Greatness, I'm Patrick Casey. I am a writer. I write for Chronicles Magazine. I've written for American Greatness. I am 1776. I write at patrickcasey.com.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I had a YouTube channel once upon a time. I've got a podcast called Restoring Order. And that's it. I'm on Twitter at at RestoreOrderUSA. That's it. He says, just some guy, a writer, had a YouTube page. Wonder what happened to it. And Tim doesn't question it or give context. The context being that Patrick Casey
Starting point is 01:27:29 is a vocal white supremacist. Like Wikipedia literally has the words white supremacist by his name. What Patrick fails to mention is that he's the former leader of the neo-Nazi group Identity Europa, the group that popularized the phrase, you will not replace us. After their involvement in the Unite the Right rally, Patrick has since tried to reb, the group that popularized the phrase, you will not replace us. After their involvement in the Unite the Right rally,
Starting point is 01:27:47 Patrick has since tried to rebrand the group and claims that they aren't the obvious racist they are. But here he is doing an interview where he explicitly discusses the group's tactic of recruiting conservatives into more extremist beliefs. Among Identity Europa's goals, Casey told us, covertly taking over the GOP.
Starting point is 01:28:06 We encourage our guys to go to young Republicans college Republicans meetings to go to local GOP meetings as well to network with people to perhaps somewhat discreetly at first start broaching identitarian and nationalist ideas why discreetly at first you want to make an effort to blend in right these ideas are a bit controversial, but we we are convinced that the logical conclusion of Trump's Make America Great Again agenda
Starting point is 01:28:30 does need to address demographics. You see how even while admitting to it, he's trying to soften the wording so he doesn't sound like such a Nazi? That's intentional. To quote a member of this group, I think it's a good strategy to not use the word ethnostate
Starting point is 01:28:44 and instead focus on getting the demographics back on track. But when you cut through all that bullshit, he is specifically and explicitly a white nationalist trying to blend in with conservatives in order to make the right more extremist. And here he is blending in on Tim's show with Tim's help. Now that's probably in part because Tim's an idiot who doesn't research his guests.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I'm not speculating there. Tim has gone on record saying so. There are some people I don't wanna have on the show. Why? If I think their goal is to lie, cheat or steal, manipulate, to enrich, to grift, as it were, not welcome. And that's like the only barrier. Must I scream the politics of an individual
Starting point is 01:29:28 before having them talk about current events? Not gonna happen. Yeah, must he scream the politics of his guests before having them on his politics show to talk about politics, Tim? Yes, that's how that works. When you have a guest on your show, you should know what they believe in at least a little bit.
Starting point is 01:29:45 In fact, if you claim that you don't have grifters on your show, but don't screen your guests, then how do you know when they are or aren't grifters, Tim? Sure seems like an easy way to have a lot of grifters on your show, Tim. Boy, I think Tim might be an idiot, but also a lazy idiot who lies. Because ultimately, I think Tim just doesn't care who he brings on.
Starting point is 01:30:09 After all, Tim makes so much money from having these people on his show. These little roundtable discussions with racists has made his channel over $200,000 from October of 2020 to November 2021 alone from super chats, not views or ads, but from people just sending them little thank you money for having the racist round tables. That's about a year with an average of $2,000 per event. It's no wonder that YouTube also doesn't give a shit since they get a cut.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Cool, great work, everyone. So it's very clear that Tim only cares about drawing a crowd. For example, the only time you see him get upset about the terrible stuff his guests say is if it results in him having to demonetize or pull a video. I think it's only fair that I don't take the heat
Starting point is 01:30:56 for what you said, Jesse, and I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm getting people attacking my character now for having to take the show down because you made two illusions to killing people. I had to take the show down because you made two illusions within killing people. I had to take the show down because you made two illusions within like the span of a couple of minutes to murdering people. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:10 After I explicitly stated in the pre-show, do not make illusions to violence, then went on to explain, we keep having people come here and saying they want people killed or people should kill people or they can be killed or things like that. Boy, yeah, what's with all the guests calling for violence? It's so weird how all your guests constantly call
Starting point is 01:31:27 for violence on your show with your little sword and gun background, real edgy decor, Tim, cool. Even your cohost has expressed concern to you about your violent rhetoric. You had to cut a live stream because Laura Loomer was like, we should execute the Democrats. And if you think Tim is concerned
Starting point is 01:31:45 about the statements themselves, he goes on to specifically complain about how these calls for violence force him to demonetize the videos. 18 minutes into the show, you had made two allusions to, one was the helicopter thrown over the Pacific Ocean. That's kind of like, ah, fuck,
Starting point is 01:32:01 we're gonna get hit for that probably, but you know, we'll see what happens. But then you said, you can go kill the human smugglers for all I care, and it's just like, that's it. It's not a YouTube thing, it's Rumble would take us down for this. I've had the conversations with Rumble about it. Won't somebody think of the Rumble?
Starting point is 01:32:15 So yeah, he's clearly aware that he hosts extremist viewpoints. He just doesn't care unless it hurts his bottom line. He's not mad that this guy called for the murder of people, but rather that he did it so overtly as to hurt his business. It's not like Tim doesn't also call for violence on a regular basis.
Starting point is 01:32:34 As we mentioned at the start of this, Tim Poole regularly tweets the word civil war like it's his signature catchphrase. Donald Trump seeing consequences for his crimes, civil war. A Trump advisor consequences for his crimes? Civil war. A Trump advisor getting sentenced for contempt of court? Civil war. The DA not prosecuting low level crimes during a protest?
Starting point is 01:32:53 Civil war. Elizabeth Warren saying that she wants to get rid of the electoral college? Civil war. Women making fun of white guys on TikTok? Oh, that's a civil war, sorry. Race conflict. You cannot just bus foreign workers
Starting point is 01:33:11 and fighting age males, military age males into the country, lest you end up with race conflict. There are these videos of these women on TikTok just spewing racial slurs. If young white men just wanna be left alone, just wanna play video games, want to live a life, be happy, but they go on TikTok, they go on Instagram,
Starting point is 01:33:29 and what do they hear? Insults based on their race? You will be dealing with majority populations in these countries that are going to say, fine, so be it. You get it. He's the boy who cried civil war. He probably screams it when a barista gets his order wrong
Starting point is 01:33:44 with his little sword and prop gun. And he is suddenly very concerned about violent rhetoric on the left now that someone tried to kill Trump. The guy constantly talking about civil war is clutching his pearls at Democrats. And so once again, going back to that Nazi mass shooter, well, of course he watched Tim Poole's videos. Over the last decade, white supremacists were 73%
Starting point is 01:34:08 of all extremist killers in this country. And Tim hosts a lot of white supremacists on his show. More than that, Tim constantly does PR for them, going out of his way to downplay right-wing mass shooters while guessing badly that actually it's the Antifa and trans people who are the murderers. Last week one of our guests said, if you go to the average person and ask them who's more
Starting point is 01:34:31 likely to commit political violence, a left winger or a right winger, they will tell you outright a right winger, despite the fact that it's substantially more likely to come from the left, just in every capacity. Trans people right now, I believe, this what people's going around right now on Twitter. Per capita, trans people commit more acts of terrorism than any other demographic. Now that does sound pretty shocking, then you realize there's very few trans people. So when you see Antifa, which is a large component of trans individuals, and you see four mass shootings in the past couple of years committed by trans individuals,
Starting point is 01:35:06 well, yeah. Hey, Tim, bad guess. It should be noted that one of the shootings the right-wing attributes to a trans person is false. A guy who shot up an LGBTQ nightclub later claimed in court to be non-binary, but everyone who knew him said that he went by masculine pronouns and specifically said
Starting point is 01:35:24 hateful stuff against gay people Which is to say he was likely just being a troll But even if we include that shooter the percentage of mass shootings committed by non-cis people is about zero point eleven percent Not that Tim cares like a lot of right-wing freaks Tim's main priority is to deflect as much freaks, Tim's main priority is to deflect as much responsibility as he can by muddying up the very clear facts that most shootings have been done by right-wing extremists. And he'll find any way he can to deflect. Here he is trying to highlight a mass shooting in Chicago and accuse the media and his guests of not covering urban crimes, only to get his dick ring pushed in the dirt.
Starting point is 01:36:04 While you're pulling that up, can you tell me the name of the mass shooter from Chicago? The ma- what mass shooter from Chicago? The one who killed uh, was it, uh, sh- not killed, uh- From the same weekend? Wait, Chicago? Or are you talking about the one in Milwaukee? Chicago. The 17 people who got shot the day before this one. No, there wasn't 17 people in Chicago who got shot. No, that was- that was Milwaukee. You're wrong.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Can you look it up? Yeah, I can't. I actually pulled it up before the show. Sure. No, that was that was Milwaukee. You're wrong. Can you look it up? Yeah, I can't actually hold it up before the show sure Here's a police report from May 14th Saturday 17 people were shot Why didn't you know the name of this shooter? Wait, I can't see it. I can't see it press release Milwaukee Friday, May 13th Milwaukee, that's what I said. That's what I said. Got me. I was wrong. Hey Tim bad guess. Bad guess that you looked up that morning.
Starting point is 01:36:49 My goodness. He was so sure of himself that morning and he still fucked it up. And that's the more innocent deflection Tim does. For example, when that guy shut up that LGBTQ nightclub, Tim flat out blamed the nightclub instead of the shooter, whipping out the extremely tired and easily debunkable groomer shit. Remember when drag shows were called grooming events
Starting point is 01:37:12 for a while and then suddenly conservatives just stopped caring about them, almost like they don't actually believe in anything? Well, Tim was huge into the groomer stuff, probably because that's what his audience wanted to hear at the time. And in one of the most fucked up examples of Tim Poole trying badly to sneak around
Starting point is 01:37:32 an incitement of violence, he framed it like this. I don't know how something like this gets resolved. I can only stress, we need legislation, we need the police to shut these events down for a variety of reasons, but it's not going to happen. There's not going to be a shutting down of these events. It's not, there's not going to be a legislation. And if this is what happens, then I fear
Starting point is 01:38:00 what will start to happen is more violence. So just to break that down, Tim is acting like he's concerned about violence there. So he can legally say he's not advocating for it, but he's doing it while pushing the lie that drag shows are grooming events and then throwing his hands up and saying, boy, if no one shuts down these groomer drag shows,
Starting point is 01:38:20 sure would be a shame if someone went there and shot them all, but what other choice is there? Yeah, such a shame if someone acted upon a lie you told with violence. That is the kind of logic that makes one go mad. Tim and other right-wingers just lied and labeled a group of people as groomers, which in turn incited attacks against them.
Starting point is 01:38:41 And their response is to say, that's what you get for being called a groomer by me. So yeah, of course mass shooters have watched and enjoyed Tim's show. I'm surprised more don't. Tim is, to recap, a very stupid and proudly ignorant guy who makes a lot of bad guesses, thinks he's really smart and cool,
Starting point is 01:39:04 doesn't screen his guests or fact check, fantasizes about another civil war, and on top of all of that, he's a mean guy, possibly a literal sociopath. I mean that when first learning that the Nazi mass shooter watched his show. Here's what Tim said about it, about a possible fan killing people
Starting point is 01:39:24 in the name of white supremacy. I mean, I gotta be honest, like, I think it's funny and I really just don't care. I think we've won so much ground in the culture war that it is completely meaningless that they would even do it assuming it was a Psyop. It's just, it means nothing to me. It's just, it's just funny.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Suddenly I don't feel so bad about making fun of Tim's sad little box wine skate park. That clip is very much the culmination of everything we talked about. Tim badly guessing that this shooter was a Psy-Op because his ego won't allow him to understand the reality of his situation. And so he finds it funny instead
Starting point is 01:40:00 and just moves on with his life, having successfully avoided a microsecond of self-reflection or growth. He is, as I keep saying, just some dumb guy who doesn't believe in anything and isn't particularly interested in facts or politics or news, who just lucked into having this platform,
Starting point is 01:40:17 who is mean-spirited and incurious and lazy and blatantly all of those things. He doesn't hide any of this. He's not clever or tactful. He's not even remarkable. In fact, the only interesting thing to say about him, ultimately, is that it's wild that he's all of those things and still manages to blend in as a right-wing pundit,
Starting point is 01:40:38 to be considered a peer of conservatives. And I think that speaks a lot to what the right-wing considers to be an important figure, who they choose to glom onto. A very apt comparison to Tim Pool is someone like Kyle Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse is now a regular right wing figure with speaking events and podcasts and like his own brand.
Starting point is 01:40:58 And all he did was get scared and shoot some guys. Regardless of your opinion on the self-defense question, that's it. He's not really even an activist. He has zero political qualifications, but he did a thing that conservatives liked, shoot people, and that was enough for him to take an active role in their movement.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Similarly, all Tim Pool did was project the image of a former leftist or centrist who pushes their lies for them, and he was in the image of a former leftist or centrist who pushes their lies for them. And he was in the door, making millions. He just dumbed his way into political influence like Peter Sellers and being there. The clearest example that we absolutely do not live in a meritocracy, which is ironic since Tim, of course, has cashed in on the DEI craze. Long story short, all of these factors with diversity and with climate change and the great reset and all of these things are putting tremendous pressures
Starting point is 01:41:53 on industry and resulting in their collapse. God, he's just so weirdly matter of fact about absolute nonsense. Well, that's just the way it is. As we all know, even, it's so lazy. He just says, with diversity, without actually explaining what it means. He just knows he needs to say it.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Tim is just so clearly mediocre at what he does. Like, imagine if someone made a YouTube show about movies. Then all they did is skim other entertainment articles while repeatedly boasting about how they don't actually watch movies. That's Tim Pool. And yet that is enough for his success for some fucking reason.
Starting point is 01:42:30 I mean, I guess I just did a really long video about him, so I'm part of the problem. And maybe part of his appeal is that he's so wrong about everything that it's often very fun to make fun of that. As I pointed out, he is content for multiple accounts who can just regularly post his terrible guesses. And so it seems as long as we keep dunking on him,
Starting point is 01:42:51 he'll probably keep thriving and make more money and dump that money into his absolutely terrible skate park compound. But for people on the right, boy, why him? Like I get why it's fun to laugh at him, but he's just so uncharismatic and blatantly wrong all the time. Boy, why him? Like I get why it's fun to laugh at him, but he's just so uncharismatic and blatantly wrong all the time.
Starting point is 01:43:09 But he's also telling them what they want to hear. In that sense, he's a pretty good guesser. He successfully guesses what topics his audience craves. For example, that voter fraud briefcase we mentioned earlier. And then he successfully guesses that his audience won't care when he is inevitably extremely wrong about it and then lies a year later about how he never,
Starting point is 01:43:32 ever said that. World's best terrible guesser and also liar, Tim Poole, I suppose. I mean, maybe it's good that Tim Poole is making all this money so that it inevitably gets funneled to whatever shooting victim ends up suing him and dissolving his idiot empire. Save your money, Tim.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Keep it in the beanie. What is, hold on, hold on. Ha ha ha ha, got him. Oh, there sure are a lot of these things when running around. I wonder what they taste like. ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] I said I wonder!
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