Something Rhymes with Purple - Oxtercog

Episode Date: June 25, 2019

A parliament of owls, a pride of lions, an odium of politicians. This week we’re talking about our favourite collective nouns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:01:36 we're in the kitchen. What have you been up to this week? Oh, I have been in studio all week. So if I sound a little bit jaded, and I'll do my best not to, that's because we've just done 15 countdowns. 15? So most of us thought've just done 15 countdowns. 15? So most of us thought it was done live at 3.15 in the afternoon. Do you think people still believe that?
Starting point is 00:01:53 It's pre-recorded. It's pre-recorded. In Manchester? In Media City. In Salford? Media City. So that's what I've been doing, yes. 15 countdowns, back late last night. And can you hear it in my voice?
Starting point is 00:02:06 You can see it in the bags under my eyes. I had a late night too, with an older woman. Did you? Yeah. I have been doing celebrity goggle box. Oh, Rachel and Pasha have been doing that as well. Rachel and Pasha have been doing it. All sorts of interesting and amusing people,
Starting point is 00:02:23 but we don't get to meet them. It's a fascinating experience. It's genuine. Tell me this, where are you? Because you're clearly, when I saw the pictures of Rachel and Pasha, they clearly weren't in their own sitting room, because I know Rachel's sitting room, and it doesn't have leopard skin throws. Pasha is trying to raise her game and took her to a rather fancy hotel for that. I went to Chichester for the first week because Sheila Hancock, who I'm doing it with, is a wonderful actress. She's been appearing
Starting point is 00:02:49 in Chichester, the Chichester Festival Theatre. And so we went to her digs. Oh, okay. I wonder if they just rented someone's house. They do sometimes do that. They do sometimes. But then it's all for real. So you go in, there are hidden cameras and you sit there and you watch the telly. And we had an extraordinary experience because we saw something called Naked Attraction. Oh, yeah. You've seen it? I've just been talking about this this week. Do you know, I've never seen it. Well. But Rachel had to see something called Mr. Pimple Popper, which sounded like the worst, worst nightmare in the world. I won't go into it as she did because it was just totally disgusting,
Starting point is 00:03:26 but it involves popping pimples. Oh, please. That's the whole premise of the show. Please. Yes. Well, naked attraction is, obviously it's lots of naked people looking at one another. You know, a girl is shown five naked boys
Starting point is 00:03:37 and she decides which one of them she likes best and which bits of the one of them she likes best. It was quite a revelation to Sheila and me, but I was rather pleased. In fact, I'm hoping to go around to see it on a regular basis with her. I'm going to be saying no to celebrity naked attraction when that comes along. I've decided. Let's talk about collective nouns. Essentially, what is a collective noun? It's a really boring phrase, isn't it? Basically, it's the term for a group of a certain number of things. So it could be people, it could be inanimate objects. It's just a group noun. Can you give me an example? Yes. What would be the collective noun for politicians?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Oh, well, that's a funny one. An odium. Oh, an odium. A posse. Very good. A snollygoster. What's snollygoster mean? Well, yes, I'll come back to that because it's one of my trio at the end. Oh, yes. Don't forget, if you're new to our podcast, basically what happens is this. Susie and I get together and we talk about words and language.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Most people think of collective nouns in relation to animals, don't they? Yeah. And I think I'm right in saying that when it comes to jellyfish it's a smack of jellyfish people know it's a seat of badgers i think that's right c-e-t-e of badgers curiously it's a deceit spelled differently of lapwings it's a parliament of owls that's quite nice isn't it because they all say i suppose that's because the picture of them all sitting around on trees looking like a parliament of owls. Yes, well it goes back to, parliament goes back to the Latin for speaking and talking. So the parlour was the place where people would go and talk.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And the parliament is where people do a lot of talking. So this is probably, you know, the collective noun for owls because they make a lot of hoots. I imagine. A pride of lions. Yeah. That's well known. That's good. A flight of swallows.
Starting point is 00:05:30 A pitying of turtle doves. I love that. A covey of partridges. A gam of whales. Have you come across that one before? I haven't. I like that one. They're good.
Starting point is 00:05:40 They're all to do with animals. Most of them are to do with animals. There's a, I like this, a yap of chihuahuas, a kindle of kittens. That's quite well known. Are these old? Are these new? Are they invented? How do they come about? Well, this is what's so strange. So as you know, I've mentioned before on our podcast that people long for an authority in English. So people want a government telling us what's correct and what's not. And failing that, because we don't have an academy, they look to the dictionary.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And so often I am asked for, what's the proper collective noun for, I don't know, a group of radio engineers, for example. And they want to know what the official term is. And the truth is there are no official terms. It's essentially, as with all of our languages I've explained before, much to people's disgust quite often, it's democracy. So usage is king. But what's so strange about collective nouns is that they go back half a millennium to something called the Book of St Albans. And that is the primary source for our hit.
Starting point is 00:06:42 The Book of St Albans, as in the place St Albans? As in the place yes. And what does this book contain? So the book contains it was basically a manual for noblemen of the time on hunting and hawking and other aristocratic pursuits and it was reprinted over and over and over again and they just sort of slipped into the language as a result. So it was attributed to a nun called Dame Juliana Burns. Oh, Barnes, sorry. But it was sometimes
Starting point is 00:07:10 written Burners. So various spellings. This was, we have to remember this just before the time when Shakespeare's name was written in about ten different ways,
Starting point is 00:07:17 including by himself twice on a single document, his will. He spelt his name differently. Because? Because spelling was chaotic. It was printing, really. It was Ca's printing press that that gave us our standard language
Starting point is 00:07:29 before that it was basically phonetic it was all over the place and i love that it was happily chaotic um anyway she lived um near the town of saint auburn's there's various doubts over whether she was the true identity she was the true author sorry we do know that she was the true identity, she was the true author, sorry. We do know that she was responsible for the section on hunting and hawking, and that's pretty much where these terms came from. But how extraordinary that these are the ones that slipped into the language. So superfluity of nuns, for example.
Starting point is 00:07:54 A superfluity of nuns? Have you heard of that? I've heard the phrase. It was because women who were considered to be spinsters, who were unmarried, who were, you know, without a sort of firm vocation in life, were encouraged to join convents. And there were so many of them that there literally there weren't enough convents to house them all,
Starting point is 00:08:14 hence the superfluity of nuns. Is there a collective noun for a collection of nuns? I mean, I asked... What's a collective noun for a collective noun? I asked my friends on Twitter to send me some possibilities and they came up with a confusion of collectives, a bunch of collectives, a whimsy of collectives, a clutch of collectives, a gathering of collectives,
Starting point is 00:08:36 a catch of collectives, a cacophony of collectives, but the one I thought was most clever, but it's got a kind of historical period feel to it, a Soviet of collectives. Because older listeners will recall that when there was the Soviet Union, there were lots of collective farms. So a Soviet of collectives. That's very clever.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I think I like cacophony. You like cacophony? Yeah, just for the sound, which is good. But yes, they go back such a long time. And one of the things I love about them is that they draw on all these superstitions and legends and myths about animals and birds and that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So we know about murmuration of starlings, don't we? I love it. Yes. A murmuration of starlings. It's beautiful. Why? What is the origin of that? Well, I should just say that before we got the murmuration,
Starting point is 00:09:25 we had a mutation of starlings because it was believed that the bird shed one of its legs at the age of 10. We don't know why. But do you remember, have I told you about licking into shape? I must have done because it's one of my favourite words. You often say that when I arrive. You see my humped shoulders and you say, it's time you got licked into shape, Giles.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Well, one of my favourite etymologies, word origins, really, because it was believed in sort of medieval bestiaries. You know, bestiaries is beautifully, lavishly illustrated collection of animal drawings, plus sort of descriptions of their character and how that might relate to humankind with a moral attached. And when were these first published? These were, oh gosh, 12th, 13th, 14th century. You will find, and they're beautiful. And one of the beliefs that you will find is that bear cubs were born as blobs, essentially.
Starting point is 00:10:17 So they were born totally shapeless and they had to be licked into shape by their mothers. Isn't that beautiful? They had to be licked into bear shape. mothers. Isn't that beautiful? They had to be licked into bear shape. So all these kind of beliefs existed at this time. And hence, as I say, the mutation of starlings. I don't know what the moral was attached to this. I think motherly love was the licking into shape.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Can I say, you've changed my... This is the reason I come each week to sit with you, Susie Dent, that the origin of the phrase licking into shape is to do with a mother bear licking her bear cub into shape. What greater example of motherly love could you find? You couldn't. It is absolutely gorgeous. But the ones on my list, because I've got a list here
Starting point is 00:10:58 of the sort of best-known collective nouns relating to animals and birds, my favourites include a flock of camels, which is quite interesting. Now, that's apparently when they're standing still.ites include a flock of camels, which is quite interesting. Now, that's apparently when they're standing still, they're a flock of camels. But when they're moving along, they become a caravan of camels. Ah, well, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Now, will somebody have thought that up? And is it just because people start using it that it gets credibility? Yes, that is exactly it. And as I say, this particular book of St. Aubyn's, but also other manuals of the kind, was so popular, even, I guess, sort of beyond the aristocracy, maybe it was a sort of aspirational thing,
Starting point is 00:11:36 that they kind of settled in the language and they've been there ever since. Going back to the murmuration, simply because, I think, of the chattering and chuntering of these enormous swarms of beautiful starlings. And that's the murmur. It's strange because they're not murmuring. They're actually making a lot of noise. But it relates something like I think it's an obstinacy of buffaloes. Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it? So it's to do with, there's something that is inspired. It's a herd of antelope, which is a bit dull.
Starting point is 00:12:06 A swarm of bees. But when they're stationary, a hive of bees. A chowder of cats. Yes. Chowder. And also there's a glaring, isn't there, as well? I didn't know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Because isn't chowder something you eat? Do you know, I actually don't know that. Clan chowder. Yes, it is. It's a kind of Indian dish. I had a chowder. Isn't it a clowder of cats? I'm not sure it's a soup of cats.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Oh, you're right. It is a clowder of cats. Don't ever try a clowder. Do you know, I better go to Specsavers. I've got my little list here. I can't read my own handwriting. Cluster, clowder and clutter. They all have the same root.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It's a clowder, a cluster, a clutter of cats. Not a chowder. Please do not eat your cat as a result of this podcast. It's worrying, actually. I'm now nervous of eating sandwiches. Have you seen that stuff in the paper about people in hospital eating a sandwich? They've gone into hospital to have their appendix out. They end up being taken home in a coffin.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Not good news. Hysteria, hysteria. Okay. A colony of bats. Colony of bats. Founder of Boar. That's B-O-A-R. Thank you, madam.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I heard what you were saying. Go back to the religious orders. I mean, people didn't think much about religious institutions, I think, in those days. So you've got an abomination of monks because they were generally thought to be very corrupt at this time. You've got a skulk of friars, which I think is quite good because he used to skulk around in the dark. I suppose you could have a skull cap of friars.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Oh, no, they didn't wear a skull. They had sort of holes in their skull. Anyway, a skulk is better. Tonsures. They had tonsures, didn't they? Is that what it is? Yes. A tonsure, the bald thing where you shave off the top of your head.
Starting point is 00:13:44 That's called. Do you know why they did that? Have you got any idea? To have their heads closer to heaven? I was just going to guess. I don't know. Is that right? Well, we're thinking maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Oh, I thought you knew the answer. I don't know the answer. And if you know, because it's very easy to know a lot more than me, very difficult to know more than Susie Dent. But if you do, you can tweet us or email us at purple at something else dot com. And that's something without a G. So it's purple, P-U-R-P-L-E, at, as an ampersand, something S-O-M-E-T-H-I-N-E-L-S-E dot com. What is the origin of ampersand?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Ampersand goes back to Victorian days when schoolchildren had something called horn books, which were these paddles essentially written on. I'm not sure what animal the horn was taken from, but sort of very thinly stretched kind of horn that operated like parchment. And they would have their alphabet written on these. And the at sign, the and sign, the Amber Sand in other words, was written as a separate letter of the alphabet. the ampersand in other words was written as a separate letter of the alphabet so they would go through the entire alphabet a b c d and then at the end they would say and per se by itself and signaling the symbol for and so it was and per se and and per se and and because they kept saying it very very quickly chanting as they couldn't get wait to get to the end of it and per se and became ampersand.
Starting point is 00:15:06 The evolution of language. It's amazing, isn't it? And what I have to tell listeners is that, though normally Susie has access to her computer, she hasn't got it today. All this is coming from her extraordinary head. Tired brain. No, it's as fresh as a daisy.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I've got a big head, but it doesn't seem to be full of so much stuff. But I do know, I mean, basically there's no definitive list, is there? There isn't. I mean, there's some lovely modern, I mean, if you ask anybody for a modern collective noun on Twitter, people go completely mad. So some of the ones I collected last year were a foothurt of Lego, speaking from a Lego-making household, a drain of iPhone batteries, a pedant of Oxford commas,
Starting point is 00:15:48 a blur of opticians, a boatie of McBoat faces. I love that. And so on. So it's a really good thing to ask. We should put out a call on Twitter, actually. Let's do it. Let's put out a call on Twitter or we invite people to communicate with us at purple at ambassadessomethingelse.com.
Starting point is 00:16:04 to communicate with us at purple at ambassadessomethingelse.com. I have made a list of my favourite ones that go beyond the animal kingdom and see if you like some of these or can improve on them. A mine of egoists. Okay. Or a me of egoists. Or maybe even an I of egoists. That's quite good. An I of egoists.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That is quite good. Possibly. That mine reminded me of when I was described as being a minefield of information. Oh, yeah. That's a man of problems. That's an egg corn. We've done that, an egg corn. We have done that. So feel free, if you're new to this podcast, there's a whole library of them,
Starting point is 00:16:37 so you can go back and look for... Or tell us to stop repeating ourselves. We won't. I live in London on the wrong side of Hammersmith Bridge, which has been closed and maybe closed for many years and i'm thinking of getting back on a bicycle good which is why i'm not surprised that the collective noun for group of bicycles is known as a wobble of bicycles which is quite nice yeah um what about a riot of protesters an elongation of anglers. Not sure about that. Is that because of the line?
Starting point is 00:17:08 A line of anglers would be better, wouldn't it? A fly of anglers. A fly of anglers. Which would be good. An expanse of broads. Well, a lot of developers. That's quite clever. A lot of developers.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Oh, I like this one. A complement of sycophants. Yes. But do you spell complement not as in a compliment, but as complement with an E rather than an I. Do you get it? Oh, yes, good. I like that.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I love this. A group of school children, a group of school students, pupils. What would you call a group of pupils? Chattering. A dilation of pupils. Do you get it? Post people, posties, postmen, postwomen? I can't think of any.
Starting point is 00:17:51 A delivery of post people. Yeah, or letterbox. A culture of bacteria. A group of judges. Judgment. No, that's rubbish. A judgment of judges is good. Condemnation of judges. Good. A sentence of judges. Of course. I think that's rubbish. A judgment of judges is good. Condemnation of judges.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Good. A sentence of judges, I think, is cleverer. Now, we were talking about politicians earlier, and what did you give? An odium. Oh, please. Which is very mean. Posse is one that people tend to...
Starting point is 00:18:17 Oh, and I had Snorley Gostin. I'm going to come to that later. A promise of politicians. Yes. What about a ponder of philosophers? Mm-hmm. A flush? A what? A musing of philosophers a flush or what amusing of philosophers i would say oh that's good particularly if they're funny ones yeah amusing of jokey philosophers a flush of plumbers a clutch of gears yeah a box of pugilists a group of gourmets, what would you call them?
Starting point is 00:18:48 That would be chowder. That could be. I've got a guzzle of gourmets I quite like. Have you made these up in your book? They're ones that I've collected over the years because I find it completely fascinating. And I love the way, it's a way that people can actually, if you come up with something that's so brilliant, it gets into the language.
Starting point is 00:19:03 That's true. So people listening to this can change the world. Have you popularised a word ever through Countdown or through your work? I mean, is there a word that you think you knew, but it's become better known as a result of your endeavours? Well, as a result of my personal endeavours, no. I love to think that words like scurry funge, do you remember that one? I do. What does it mean again?
Starting point is 00:19:25 It means to run around the house tidying up before visitors arrive, which I didn't have time to do today. No scurry funging in sight, as you can see. I think that calls for a break. I need to lie down and then we'll get back to collectives. And maybe also some of our correspondents, people are writing into us now on Something Rhymes with 12. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yay! Oh, Susie Dent, this is your home. Where's the loo? Your mum hates it when you leave six half-full glasses on your nightstand. It's a good thing mom lives on the other side of the country. And it's an even better thing that you can get six IKEA 365 Plus glasses for just $9.99. So go ahead. You can afford to hoard because IKEA is priced for student life. Shop everything you need for back to hoard because IKEA is priced for student life. Shop everything you
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Starting point is 00:20:44 I am eating a banana. I nip out to the loo. I come back and she's stubbing her face with a banana. This is my breakfast. I've not even had time for breakfast. Oh, you've got to really look after yourself, Susie Dent. I know. I really do. It's true.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Okay. Okay. So, banana swallowed. We have a question. We have a question from Steve Carrico, one of our listeners. And please do send us via tweet or what was it? Purple at something else without a G. Purple at something else.
Starting point is 00:21:12 It's all one word. S-O-M-E-T-H-I-N else. Somethingelse.com. Perfect. So please keep them coming. This one, Steve says, a match of which has been the subject of much discussion amongst my family and friends
Starting point is 00:21:24 is the wording on the back of a packet of haw crisps. Claim they are correct, but I maintain they were at fault and consequently decided to take the matter to the highest authority on grammar in the land, namely yourselves. I didn't know that we were. Since 1948, we've been delighted, this is on the back of the crisp packet, We've been delighting the nation every day with our delicious, great-tasting crisps. Now, every day here is written as one word. And Steve's question is, surely it should be every day. Two words. I think he is right.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I think every day means it's an everyday problem. Adjective. As an adjective. It's an everyday problem. I can't get enough bananas. Yeah. I'm with you. But every day I wake up and think, where's Susie?
Starting point is 00:22:10 That is every day, each day. He went to the greengrocer's every day. And absolutely right. So you can go every day to the greengrocer's for your everyday supplies. And that would be everyday supplies would be? Only if it's used as what we call a predicative adjective. So only if it's used as an adjective in front of a noun can it be one word. If it's used as an adverb, then always two words.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Go on with that because... So basically, Walker's Crisps has got it long. We still don't mind if you'd like to advertise as part of us. Walker's Crisps, we'll're happy to do that yes um yeah uh you know prawn cocktail for me gary linico used to do the walkers crisps ads he does doesn't he what does he i don't know i don't watch much tv i love gary um oh you know i go around to watch tv with my friend sheila hancock but we fast forward through the commercial so i've not seen him doing it but he lives near me and we go to the same Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Starbucks also welcome. Yes. I like that. And he stands near me, as it were, when we're lining up, but looking at his knees so as not to be recognised. And when I poke him to say it's me, Giles, Gary, he sort of frinches because he's so used to obviously being sort of poked by strangers. So though we are together in Starbucks, we are never very close in Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:23:29 He's a gent, Gary. I've never actually spoken to him. Of course you haven't, because that's the way he treats you when you're on the queue at Starbucks. No, I've not actually been in the queue with him. I would happily be there, but no, I think he talks a lot of sense, particularly on Twitter. So go on with the ad, though. Go on with the... Because I think there's another mistake in it. To do with the punctuation. Well, it says crisps, but surely this is...
Starting point is 00:23:50 I think this is maybe a typo. Oh, yeah, not the crisp. It does say crisp. Great tasting crisps. Yeah. Surely they haven't said it's not crisp. Hold on. They've done it.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Great tasting is two separate words. Yeah, it should be hyphenated. Because they're not tasting crisps. They're everyday crisps, aren't they? Again, it's an adjective. It's a predicative adjective. It should be great dash tasting. Or attributive adjective.
Starting point is 00:24:07 It should be great tasting with a hyphen. Good. Yeah. So there we are. So Walker's Crisps. Need a sub-editor. They need a sub-editor. It's one of the largest brands in the world.
Starting point is 00:24:18 They spend millions on advertising and they can't get their language right on the packaging. But we'd still love them to advertise. Yeah, we would like them to advertise and we won't talk about them in this way. And also I'll revise my view on Gary Lineker. I have to tell you that. Yeah, I genuinely love Gary Lineker. Yeah, I'm ready to like.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I'm just not into football. And hasn't he not now got a sort of funny goatee, honestly? What is it? I suppose it's better than having a tattoo. You don't have a tattoo. I love tattoos. Oh, what's the collective noun for tattoos? Glory.
Starting point is 00:24:52 God, I was going to say a tat of tattoos or an inkwell. I love tattoos. Or a scar of tattoos. Beautiful scars. Okay. Well, people have different views about tattoos. I genuinely love tattoos. I might do a Jonathan Dimbleby when I'm 75.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Oh, no, David Dimbleby. Was it one of those? Yes. Or David Steele. Or Judi Dench as well. Yes. Well, we forgive Judi Dench anything. And Judi Steele, the wife of David Steele,
Starting point is 00:25:17 the former leader of the Liberal Party. She had one in riper years. I would have a word. What would you have? What would I have? I don't have to get you over your objection, but what would you have? You know what word I would have. It's my favourite word. Yex. Y-E-X. I didn't know this. What is a yex? You don't know? No. I'll give you three alternatives.
Starting point is 00:25:34 So it's quiz time. Y-E-X. A Y-E-X. It's either part of a horse's hoof, a yex. It's a Greek coin, a yex. It's an old word for a hiccup, a yex. I think I would know the old word for the hiccup. I hope I would anyway. I'll go for the hoof. Wrong. Oh, this is the podcast of podcasts. This is the one we're in.
Starting point is 00:26:03 It's not a hiccup. It is a hiccup. No. A yex. It sounds like one. It genuinely is. You can look. This is the one we're in. Is that a hiccup? It is a hiccup. No. A yex. It sounds like one. It genuinely is. You can look it up. A yex.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Wow. When we next, tune in next week and we'll tell you, we'll begin by telling you the history, the heritage of the word yex. Okay. Before we go, I just want, and you give us your trio for this week. I've just got a few more of these collectives
Starting point is 00:26:22 I want to share with you, okay? Oh, a Welsh friend offered me an amusing one. It's rather controversial. A Wales of Jonas is rather good. Uh-huh. A Wales of Jonas? Yeah. What, people named Jonah? Yeah, a group of people called Jonah. A Wales, well, I thought it was quite clever. A secession of nationalists. Oh, I love this. A cacophony of mime artists. Nice. You know, when Marcel Marceau died on French radio to mark the passing of Marcel Marceau,
Starting point is 00:26:54 they had a minute's noise. Okay, I'll give you a guess. What? A group of babies. What's them? A collective noun for babies. Oh, burbling.? A group of babies. What's them? A collective noun for babies. Oh, burbling. A dampness of babies.
Starting point is 00:27:08 We'd be burbling books for this. A gathering of pessimists. Thanks for not saying moist. Oh, what's it? A gathering. Yeah. A cloud. Oh, that's very good.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Much better than mine, which was, and I told you so, pessimists. I think yours is better. Well, we can come back to this another day. Give us, because I think we're running out of time and people have got work to do, lives to live. Have you got a trio for us today? Okay, my first one, it's not quite quaff-tide, which is when it's time for a drink,
Starting point is 00:27:39 but this is quite useful when it is, nipenthe. So this is about N-E-P-E-N-T-H-e n-e-p-t-h-e-n is it something to do with sleep well sort of it's a drink potion or drug thought to bring forgetfulness of all worries so it basically changes your state of mind oh nipenthe doesn't have to be alcoholic nipenthe nipenthe it's not beautiful it sounds rather lovely nipenthe oh is it nipenthe. Nepenthe. Isn't that beautiful? It sounds rather lovely. Nepenthe. Oh, is it Nepenthe? Nepenthe. Nepenthe.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yes. And it's a drink. Yes, or a potion of something that just alters your state of mind for the better. Very good. Yes. That's the first one. The next one, if you have too many Nepenthes, you might need to oxtercog someone home. O-X-T-E-R-C-O-G. And that's...
Starting point is 00:28:24 O-X-T-E-R... C-O-G. And that's... O-X-T-E-R... C-O-G. C-O-G. Oxtercog. To carry someone by supporting them under the armpits. What's the origin of that? So oxter is an old dialect word for your armpit. And cog, again, old dialect for carrying.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Don't know why it's called an oxter, but that's been around for a very, very long time. Oxtercog. Yeah. So if you're carrying somebody home under their armpits... Yeah. The act of doing that called an oxter, but that's been around for a very, very long time. Oxter cog. Yeah. So if you're carrying somebody home under their armpits, the act of doing that is an oxter cog. Yes. And when you're carrying a whole load of baggage and you have to actually carry some under your arms like that, that's called an oxter. That's you're carrying them under your oxter. Oh.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah. So the armpits are oxters. Yeah. Yeah. That would be a lovely pair of oxters. I like that. And my third one, which kind of continues the theme, really, of changing your mindset for the better, is to pop joy, all one word, pop joy,
Starting point is 00:29:13 to celebrate or have fun, as in the group pop joyed in the pub all evening. We pop joyed. Well, we've pop joyed today in your kitchen. Can I come back next week? Please do. I like your kitchen. Do you?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Actually. It's a bit echoey, but... That doesn't matter. It's full of bananas. Yeah, I haven't had one yet. I'll have a banana. So this has been Something Rhymes With Purple. And if you like it, please, you know, tell your friends, treat about it.
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