Something Rhymes with Purple - Shoeburyness
Episode Date: April 4, 2023Come join Susie and Gyles for Part 2 of ‘The Purple People’s Linguistic Gaps’. To celebrate our 200th episode, we asked the Purple People for moments or experiences when they wished there was a ...specific word to describe it. Go listen back to our first instalment, ‘200 Today!’, and enjoy today’s follow up episode which is packed full of even more brilliant suggestions… We’ll explore that sensation of believing there’s an extra step at the top of the stairs only to have your foot slam down onto thin air, if there’s a name for the first produce you receive from your garden, and if we can find an English equivalent for ‘dépayser’ (the feeling of being somewhere different, somewhere other than what you are used to). We love hearing from you, find us @SomethingRhymes on Twitter and Facebook, @SomethingRhymesWith on Instagram or you can email us here: purple@somethinelse.com Want even more purple, people? Join the Purple Plus Club by clicking the banner in Apple podcasts or head to purpleplusclub.com to listen on other platforms' Don’t forget that you can join us in person at our upcoming tour, tap the link to find tickets: www.somethingrhymeswithpurple.com Enjoy Susie’s Trio for the week: Fulminous: Resembling thunder and lightning Bandersnatch: An uncouth individual Dontopedology - The art of putting one's foot in one's mouth. Gyles' poem this week was 'Life' by 'Charlotte Brontë' Life, believe, is not a dream So dark as sages say; Oft a little morning rain Foretells a pleasant day. Sometimes there are clouds of gloom, But these are transient all; If the shower will make the roses bloom, O why lament its fall? Rapidly, merrily, Life's sunny hours flit by, Gratefully, cheerily Enjoy them as they fly! What though Death at times steps in, And calls our Best away? What though sorrow seems to win, O'er hope, a heavy sway? Yet Hope again elastic springs, Unconquered, though she fell; Still buoyant are her golden wings, Still strong to bear us well. Manfully, fearlessly, The day of trial bear, For gloriously, victoriously, Can courage quell despair! A Somethin’ Else & Sony Music Entertainment production.  Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Something Rhymes with Purple, where we get to return to some of my favourite things in the world, and these are linguistic gaps. Now me is giles as always and giles we hit
our 200th episode didn't we our 200th birthday at the end of january and for us we found this
really special because we had so many brilliant questions from people asking what do you call
this x or y or z and it really got us doing some major head scratching and trying to come up with
words to fill those gaps,
sometimes borrowed from other languages. Turns out we had so many, we can return to them.
I'm glad we can return to them. It was very celebratory. I love a celebration. I've just
had my birthday, you know. I went away. I know, and you did something really special.
Well, I did do something really special in the sense that it was an amazing event.
really special in the sense that it was an amazing event. I hosted a party. As you know,
one of my seven grandchildren had childhood babyhood cancer and was a patient at Great Ormond Street Hospital in London. And the other day, or rather the end of last year,
had their five-year all clear from the babyhood cancer, which was, of course,
they have to be checked every year. But anyway, it was good news. And I thought time to say thank you and to celebrate. So we organised for my
birthday an event at a party on the stage of the London Palladium. And we've raised, I'm proud to
tell you, more than £100,000 in one afternoon, thanks to all the people who appeared on the
stage. I saw a picture, I have to say, I was staggered as to how many amazing women you gathered there that day.
I gathered a dozen dames.
There was more than a thousand years of theatrical experience on that stage.
Dame Judi Dench, well, you name it, they were all there.
Dame Judi Dench, Dame Joan Collins, Dame Maureen Lipman, Joanna Lumley, Twiggy.
I mean, they were all just every theatrical dame you could think of.
Floella, Benjamin.
They were all there.
And they were wonderful.
And they were so entertaining.
Eileen Atkins did a musical turn.
And these are people in their 80s and 90s, some of them.
Oh, Patricia Routledge.
Do you remember Hyacinth Bouquet?
I do.
She's amazing in so many ways, not just for Hyacinth.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
I mean, but she has created in Hyacinth Bouquet,
one of those characters that will live forever,
rather like Joanna Lumley created Patsy for Absolutely Fabulous.
And she sang a wonderful Noel Card song.
And then, you know, she's in her mid-90s.
She was on stage so formidable.
We did a quiz as part of the show.
And I said to her, you know, Joanna Lumley
is the captain of your team and you're the deputy. She said, I've never been a deputy in all my life
and I'm not starting now. And it was a wonderful occasion and a very happy way to celebrate a
birthday. So we, of course, are going on the stage as well with our show. And there's something
special about being on a stage, isn't there, with a live audience? Yes. I've just added some dates to my own show,
which has been going forever because of COVID, really. And I'm going to write a new one. But
yeah, do you know, I so look forward to it. I've been doing matinees. And there's something special
about a matinee performance, I think, because it's just a lovely way to sort of interrupt my day.
You know, it's a lovely interruption and um and i really look
forward i love a matinee we must explore one day the origin of the word matinee because matin means
morning doesn't it does yeah because they originally were in the mornings ah yeah because
the matinee that we see in the theater usually is in the afternoon exactly yeah mid-afternoon or
that two isn't it two or two two thirtyar. Anyway, we celebrated our 200th birthday of Something Rhymes with Purple in an ingenious
way, didn't we? And we had so much material, we didn't use it all. What have we got left over?
What are we going to talk about now?
Well, we're just going to kick off. Why not? Why don't we just dive into the mailbag
and pull one out. This is from Caroline Schreiber.
Hi, Susie and Giles. I am a native French speaker, and one word I have never found an equivalent for in English is dépaiser, D-E-A-Q-T-P-A-Y-S-E-R, that's the verb.
Dépaisement, which is the noun, or dépaisant, the adjective.
The feeling of being somewhere different, somewhere other than what you're used to. I wondered if there was a word you could
suggest to express that sense of unhomely feeling, but one that doesn't have positive or negative
undertones. The French word can be used for both. Dépézé. How interesting.
Yes. Dépézé is lovely. And Caroline's absolutely right because it's quite an intense feeling. It
means decontrification. So it's that state of physical removal from one's own homeland
and the sort of discombobulation that change really provokes in you or inspires in you.
But it isn't entirely negative.
It can also be the desire to just have fresh surroundings and just to blow away the cobwebs.
So I may have been mispronouncing it because obviously at the heart of the word,
the French word is pays.
Shouldn't it be dé-paysé?
Dé-paysé, yeah, is decontrification and dépayse. Yes. Well, beautiful. I think you
pronounced it beautifully. And I can only offer another sort of, I wouldn't say foreign word,
but a word that's not particularly naturalised in English in return for this, but it does capture
this completely. It's the idea of encountering somewhere for the first time and feeling very out of place. And it's the Irish adwantas. And it means
unfamiliarity, but it really is about the mixture of feelings that you might experience when you
find yourself in these strange surroundings. So you're out of your comfort zone, which can bring
both good things and bad. Good. Well, here's another one. Hello, Susie and Giles. You asked
for our linguistic gap, so here goes. Is there a word for the feeling you get when physical reality
tricks your anticipation, usually when you're not paying much attention and you're forced to
take a moment to recalculate your surroundings? For example, when you're walking up familiar
stairs in the dark and you think there's one more step, but your foot instead
swipes the empty air and your whole leg comes down with a seriously discomforting thwomp.
Yes, I've done that before. And we all recognise that, don't we? But also,
that one where you forget that there is an extra step and then that can be very risky.
Well, he gives the other example, a puddle, which is hidden under a pivoted paving stone.
You only know it's there when you step on the paving stone and the puddle shoots up your leg.
That was a question from Chris in Colorado.
Yes. Brilliant.
It's interesting, isn't it, how so many of these are almost untranslatables,
even though they are universal emotions.
There is a word, believe it or not, which is a riff on déjà vu.
And déjà vu is when we have that feeling that we've been somewhere before or have experienced in exactly the same moment as one is experiencing now
there is a jamais vu and that is the sense that surroundings that actually you're really familiar
with are being experienced for the first time because you just don't recognize them you're
sort of you know discombobulated and you need a chance to re-combobulate. And maybe that fits
Chris's question of when you're forced to take a moment to recalculate and recalibrate, etc.
But it's interesting. And I was talking to Harriet, our producer, about that step,
that ghost step. You go to take it, but it's not actually there because she's reminded me
of a lovely definition from the meaning of lift. Now, are you familiar with the meaning of lift, Giles? I do, indeed. Written by the famous Douglas Adams
and John Lloyd, who's a television producer that you and I both know.
Yes, absolutely. It's a clever book, isn't it? Clever idea.
Explain what the concept is. Yes. Well, they identified as many
linguistic gaps as they could find in English, and there do seem to be a lot.
as many linguistic apps as they could find in English. And there do seem to be a lot.
And they then gave them a British place name.
So with some wonderful ones.
And I've talked to you before about Abilene,
which is the cool side of your pillow, you know,
when you just sort of turn your pillow over
and it's just absolutely gorgeous.
But they also have an app puddle.
Now I'm not completely sure where app puddle is actually.
So I'm now looking it up.
I bet it's in Wales because App means son of or something, doesn't it?
App does, yes. And that's why we have Up John and stuff. No, Aff, this is Aff with a double F.
And it's in the Purbeck district of Dorset in southwest England. And an Aff Puddle, it says,
is a puddle which is hidden under a pivoted paving stone. And yes,
it is all about that one that, you know, where the water shoots up, you look as you hadn't
anticipated it. So the meaning of lift can help where we couldn't.
Good. Next question. This comes from Janet Luxton. Kia ora. Hi, Susie and Charles. I wonder about a
word for that feeling you have when you eat the first produce from your garden for the season.
for that feeling you have when you eat the first produce from your garden for the season.
I guess smug could work, if a little pejorative,
but I find it's a mixture of joy, accomplishment, pleasure.
And then she adds, and for my pleasure, I'm going to read this.
Thank you for your gorgeous podcast.
It's a wonderful listen every week.
Aku mihi, my thanks.
Janet Luxton.
The Kia Ora and the Aku mihi, what language do they come from, Susie?
They're from New Zealand, aren't they?
So those are from Maori.
Very good.
And it's lovely.
And you know what?
I think I'm going to go again to another lost positive.
Although, to be fair, this one hasn't been nestling in the dictionary for centuries. It was given to us, as you and I have said before, Giles, by P.G. Woodhouse.
But I think it's gruntlement, isn't it? And that captures everything. A quiet satisfaction without
smugness, really. It is just that deep, peaceful contentment. I love it. So I'm going to say that
you're feeling gruntled, so maybe you could be garden gruntled. Garden gruntled. I like that.
We all need a sense of achievement in our lives, even in small
ways. I was reading some research about people who hated Monday, always dreaded a Monday,
and went to bed on Sunday night feeling uncomfortable about Mondays.
The Mubble Fubbles.
Is that what it's called? What's it called?
The Mubble Fubbles. I always call them the Sunday Mubble Fubbles. That's the 17th century
word. Yeah.
People feel apprehensive about Monday, but I think it's people feel apprehensive about their work.
If they're unlucky, you and I are very lucky because our work is so varied and we do get
surprises. We get days when there's a sense of achievement. If you don't get surprised
and a sense of achievement in your work, you could feel pretty grim about going back to work.
Yes. You. Anyway.
You absolutely could.
Before the break, we're returning to a question posed in our previous episode about the word for that uneasy feeling one experiences when sitting on a seat warmed by the previous occupant.
Because we have an answer.
Yes.
Now, just to unpack this a bit, just to remind you, Giles, you quite liked a seat that was already warm. Yes. Now, just to unpack this a bit, just to remind you, Giles, you quite liked a seat that
was already warm, say on a train, but not a loose seat, categorically not a loose seat.
Absolutely. I like to be clothed. I don't mind getting into a car where the seat has been
previously warmed. And nowadays, in fact, I want a warm car seat and I look for the button that
will press to warm up the seat. If you're lucky, yes. I like all that. And I don't mind if it's been humanly warmed on a train or a bus or in a...
But I do not want to sit and be reminded on the lavatory seat that somebody has sat there before me.
I really don't.
No.
And you told us all that you were a hoverer.
And I think if ever we need a word, it is for someone who hovers above the toilet for fear of sitting down.
Yeah, a toilet hoverer.
Yes.
There must be something to do with a helicopter on there.
We'll have to think of it.
But yes, we had some brilliant, brilliant suggestions.
John Dagan suggested squarmth, which I think is a brilliant blend.
It's squirm plus warmth.
And his reason is, when in cities, I always ride public transit.
Residual body heat on a transit seat makes me squirm a bit.
Squirm plus warmth is squirm.
I think that's just genius.
Kirstie Mullock gave us another portmanteau.
Heatsance.
The heat presence.
Heatsance.
That was very good.
And Lucia Cousins suggested the after-bum effect.
A bit like the afterburn effect.
Yeah, I think it's very good.
Yes, absolutely. Or she also came up with residual heat play on residual it's everything residual it's residual residual heat
residual heat but you know what giles we've already mentioned the meaning of lift and they
do provide the answer and it is the name of jan Burrows' hometown. So she wrote in to say,
very much made me chuckle all those years ago. Different pronunciation, she says, but it's
Shoeberryness. And Shoeberryness in the deeper meaning of Lyft, so this is a spin-off really
of their dictionary. It's the vague feeling of uncomfortableness caused by sitting on a bus seat
still warm from someone else's bottom.
Shoeberryness. And where is Shoeberryness? It's somewhere in the British Isles?
Shoeberry it would be, wouldn't it? So Shoeberry, we can look this up as well.
Oh, I thought the place was actually called Shoeberryness.
I think it's, maybe it is Shoeberryness. Oh, you're right. It is in Southend-on-Sea.
That's what I thought. I thought it was somewhere Essex way. Yeah.
No, that is absolutely brilliant.
And this is another great one from The Meaning of Life,
which I am reminded of.
It's a Norris Thorpe.
That's such a British place name.
A Norris Thorpe is the first person in a motorway traffic jam
to get out of their car and walk about sighing.
Oh, I can picture that.
It's a great word, a knowledge thought.
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You mentioned stage shows. You are on tour with your show that's going on,
has been extended. What do you call your show?
It's called The Secret Life of Words, or Secret Lives of Words, I should say. It feels like I've
been doing it for a long time. But of course, every time you get a new audience, you discover
something different because they can ask me whatever question they want to,
much as our lovely Purple audiences do.
And you, I've got your show out now.
I've got a new show coming this summer.
I thought, well, let's do it slightly.
I'm sure I'll have some old favourites in it.
Like when you, you know, when you see Frank Sinatra,
you want him to sing My Ways.
I probably will tell a few of my favourite stories,
but it's going to be a new show.
And my wife has thought of the title. Yes, I love this title. Well, she's calling
it, it's called Giles Brandreth Can't Stop Talking. I don't know where she got that idea from, but
anyway, it's all about talking and the fun of talking. And I do love doing a live show. It's
strange. There's something quite different. You know, you and I, we're lucky we do a lot of
television, we do radio, we do this lovely lovely podcast but being there with a live audience it's very exciting if you do come
to our show live in the interval do come and say hello because we we mingle in the interval so as
well as getting an ice cream you do come and say hello to us and if you want to get in touch it's
purple at something else.com something without a g who has been in touch we have a voice note from sophie madeley
hello dearest susie and giles i've only just found this podcast and i absolutely love it
when i first got together with my now husband i used to call him a bumpkin as the term of
endearment until he told me what it meant where does the term come from look forward to hearing
from you keep up the amazing work and thank you
sophie madeley manchester i think it's rather sweet you pumpkin you but does it suggest somebody's a
bit simple a bumpkin yeah it's all about this rivalry between those in the city and those
in the countryside a country bumpkin yes has given us so many different words from if you're urbane you are urban and sophisticated whereas
if you're a hick you are out in the sticks and not considered to be very sophisticated and actually
bumpkin is one of these it goes back to a dutch word meaning a sort of dumpy kind of barrel like
person it goes back to a dutch word meaning barrel, essentially. So the idea is of somebody who's kind of quite squat, not very urbane, and hence probably from the country.
So a bit insulting to all the lovely country dwellers.
So I can see, Sophie, why your husband didn't quite want to latch onto that.
But maybe pull him pumpkin instead.
I don't know.
I think I can see it too as a term of endearment.
A bumpkin is sort of cuddly.
But I know what you mean. Also, a bumpkin's gotment. A bumpkin is sort of cuddly, but I know what you mean.
Also, a bumpkin's got straw in their hair and that sort of thing.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
It's that stereotype, isn't it?
But when you break down the word, it's bump and kin.
Kin means relation, doesn't it?
No, kin here is a diminutive.
So it means something little.
So a munchkin, if you remember from The Wizard of Oz, it's just all about diminutive things. And yeah, it just adds to the insult, I think.
Because I just thought it was a relative who was like a bump on the head, somebody sort of simple.
No, not at all.
Sometimes the word can be a false friend if you just try and look at it and think,
I can unwrap this.
Absolutely.
When in doubt, give Susie a shout, as somebody has done. Fintan Lamb. Absolutely. further ado. Also, the cliché in broad daylight is often used when referring to reporting on
crimes committed during the day. Why do we consider daylight to be broad? Is in broad
daylight commonly used for anything other than describing the environment when a crime is
committed? Keep up the good work. Fintan Lamb, Gorry, County Wexford, Ireland.
Hope to good work. Fintan Lamb, Gorry, County Wexford, Ireland.
County Wexford. I'm going to Ireland soon. I love Ireland. I love the Irish accent.
Me too. And I love those very intriguing questions. Do you know the answer to either of them?
Well, a do is quite a nice one because without further ado is not so empty as you might think
because to have a do in the 14th century was to have things to do.
So if you said, I have much ado, I have got a lot on my to-do list. And of course, much ado about
nothing is much, much kind of fuss, really. It's just kind of a lot going on. And without further
ado means without stopping to do anything else, you will progress to the next stage. So it actually
is quite pithy, I think, and I quite
like that. And yes, in broad daylight, absolutely right. It's now in full view of any onlookers,
and it typically is used when the action is surprising that somebody would be quite so
blunt and blatant. In broad daylight, and broad has designated the full light of day since the 14th century broad daylight is first recorded
in around the 1870s but in broad day came before then too and it has descended into a bit of a
hackneyed phrase but the idea is is full the full light of day when it is fully light that's the
sense of broad here but yeah it has become
to me specifically oh i know they're doing that in broad daylight i never expected to see that
we must have touched on this before the american slang for a female abroad yeah is that the same
idea something that's wide and what what is that what's the origin of that yeah it was originally
i i don't know if actually this is connected, but it was short for abroad
and actually had a fairly sad meaning really, because it was about a marriage between people
who were enslaved really. And so abroad was a partner and they may not be recognised in law.
So very sort of sad beginning there. Now, broad speech is speech that
is supposedly kind of unrefined and unsophisticated. I'm looking down into the noun sense. I'm going to
come back to you because it's going to take me a while that the entry for broad is as broad as it
is long. I'm just going to have to come back to you because I can't see an obvious answer to this.
The phrase without further ado makes me think of another phrase, without further adieu. Is that somebody's invention?
It's rather clever, isn't it? Yeah, I think that's what we call an egg corn. But I think
without further adieu, it makes sense. You know, without saying goodbye, I'm just kind of going to
go straight on to something. But it's, yeah. It's good. I'll say goodbye without further adieu. I
think it's a rather clever turn of phrase. It is actually, isn't it? Right. I think we've got, oh, we've got a couple more,
actually. This one is from Jenny McGill. Hello, Susie and Giles. I love your podcast.
And as I have an undergraduate degree in linguistics and I'm a practicing speech
pathologist, I adore words. And it occurred to me many years ago that the whole in workaholic
or chocoholic surely comes from alcohol and thus alcoholic. The suffix is ick, isn't it?
So shouldn't I be a chocick and a workick? Doesn't have quite the same ring to it though.
Warmest regards from sunny Australia, Jenny McGill.
That is so clever. I think she must be spot on, is she?
She sort of is. Yes. I mean, it's a brilliant question, but I have to say that all the other aholics are riffs on alcoholic. And even
though we're stealing some of alcohol for this, and so it doesn't quite make sense, that was the
kind of progenitor of all the others. And then it was re-spelled as an A to reflect the pronunciation
because we don't say alcoholic, we say alcoholic. And just a word on alcohol itself, if you remember,
alcoholic. And just a word on alcohol itself, if you remember, it goes back to al-kohl, which actually is in Arabic and it means the coal, kohl, K-O-H-L, being a substance which when powdered
was used to darken the eyes. So Cleopatra is said to have used coal to darken her eyes. And
even today you might have a coal eye pencil.
Well, not you, Giles, probably.
But it's, you know, part of a makeup kit.
And then the alcohol or alcohol of wine
was also a distillation, the same kind of distillation.
It was an extract from wine.
Oh, and then going out partying.
So alcohol came first,
and then it was in the 20th century
that we got all the other holics,
like workaholic and chocoholic, et cetera. So Jenny is spot on, but language has never been sensible.
Oh, well done, Jenny. Lovely to hear from you anyway. And finally, oh, look,
Charlie Vose has been in touch and he's got a nice greeting. Hi, Gilesy. That's Giles and
Susie combined. You see, he's made a portmanteau of our name, Susie. It's rather nice. We're a
little double act, aren't we? We're a pod pair. While listening to your last episode,
when Giles had dinner with the king and queen consort, it actually was lunch. It reminded me
of, it was the prime minister I had dinner with. It reminded me of my determined detective.
It reminded me of my determined detective work when I realised I didn't know what we would call the next era with the new king.
Victorian for Victoria, Elizabethan for Elizabeth.
And I was surprised to find that under King Charles, we were heading into our third Carolian era.
It sounds positively euphonious.
Why and when does this come from?
Toasty regards from Charlie.
It does, actually.
Well, the first version of this was actually Caroline,
spelt like Caroline.
And both Caroline and Caroline look back to the Latin version of Charles,
which was Carolus, C-A-R-O-L-U-S.
And in the 17th century, Caroline referred to Charles the Great, Charlemagne, and it was actually referring to a
type of tiny handwriting developed in France at the time of Charlemagne. Then it came to designate
Charles I and Charles II, etc. But Carolene is the more modern version of this. It came about
in the 20th century and, you know, it just follows Jacobean the same way, really. And yeah,
all looking back to the Latin Carolus. Looking forward a quarter of a century,
when William, the now Prince of Wales, becomes the next king, will he be William V? I think he
will be. What would that be? I mean, Victorian is easy. Elizabethan is easy. Even Carolian is
relatively easy. What do you get for William? I mean, the...
I don't know. They have Wilhelmine, which referred to William II, but that obviously
was when he was emperor of Germany and German is Wilhelm. So I'm not sure whether we take that one
or not really, because the royal family have tried to distance themselves from German names.
They have. So I don't think that's good. I don don't think, oh, that won't work. What's going
to be? The Willy era. The Willy era. Anyway, that we hope is many years hence. And thank you for
being in touch. And if you want to communicate with us, all you need to do is write to us
by email. It's purple at something else dot com. Susie, you always give us three intriguing words.
What have you got to offer us this week? Well, speaking of the royal family, I'll stick with that and offer you a word that was coined by Prince Philip, who you knew well, Charles.
And you will know this word, dontopedology.
Oh, it's a brilliant word.
Yes, dontopedology, I know as podiocide.
Both mean the same thing.
It's putting your foot in your mouth.
So, dontopedology is just a slightly humorous formulation for, yeah,
putting your foot in it, in other words. Now, my second one, I always think of Brian Blessed when
I say this word, fulminous. Do you know what that means? Fulminous. Well, tell me. It means resembling
thunder and lightning. Well, oh, I wish I'd said it because I thought it was going to be something
like that because he does resemble thunder and lightning, doesn't he? Go on. He does. So,
fulminous, yes, of the style of Thunder and Lightning.
Or you might just say fulminous skies, if they are particularly stormy ones.
And this last one I just love.
It's got a slight blackout of feel to it, if anyone recognises blackout or is familiar with it.
John Lloyd again, actually.
Bandersnatch.
And a bandersnatch is an uncouth, unsavoury individual.
You Bandersnatch.
Is that invented by Lewis Carroll? It occurs, doesn't it, in the famous poem,
Jabberwocky, in Alice Through the Looking Glass, a Bandersnatch.
It absolutely was. It was one of his coined in the 19th century. Yeah, it's brilliant, isn't it?
And I think in his works, it was slightly different.
So a lot of the words that he invented have morphed slightly. So trampoos, actually, I think for him was moving fairly swiftly. Whereas now I think about trampoos into the kettle when I'm
really tired. And a bandersnatch was a mythical creature who moved very fast. So not quite as
we want to at all how we use it today, but it's because of its sound,ersnatch you rapscallion etc it sounds pretty good you threw in trampoos as though it's a word
that we're all familiar with just oh you don't know trampoos no i i love trampoos okay so it
was it i'm just going to look up where he used it actually and it's another because i don't think
it's the honest books i think it must be somewhere else tell me where it's from oh it's not actually i've got that completely wrong i know no no yeah i'm thinking of
galumph not trampoos oh there you are there you are i'm dead i'm galumph was that when you're
absolutely right and that's to gallop with triumph yeah whereas actually i galumph it's got a heavy
plodding feel to it and that's exactly what trampoos means so you might trampoos to the
office it's trudging you're absolutely right i got those two mixed up. So trampoo is a word from another source altogether.
It is. I apologise. That's from the 18th century and it's to trudge with a heavy heart.
Well, we learned so much from you. I think you're brilliant.
I do get it wrong. I do get it wrong.
Well, it gets nice for me to be able to catch you out for once in a million times.
They're very fallible. Put things right with a poem. Let's stay in the 19th century. I found a poem by Charlotte Bronte that I love because it's full of
optimism. And sometimes I make the mistake of looking at the newspapers or looking at the news
on television. I suddenly feel low. And then I think, why am I doing this? You know, the world
has always had dark sides. Let's look on the bright side. And then I came across this poem called Life by Charlotte
Bronte. Life, believe, is not a dream, so dark as sages say. After little morning rain foretells
a pleasant day. Sometimes there are clouds of gloom, but these are transient all. If the shower
will make the roses bloom, oh, why lament its fall? Rapidly, merrily,
life's sunny hours flip by. Gratefully, cheerily, enjoy them as they fly. What, though death at
time steps in and calls our best away? What, though sorrow seems to win, or hope a heavy sway?
to win, O hope, a heavy sway, Yet hope again elastic springs,
Unconquered though she fell, Still buoyant are her golden wings,
Still strong to bear us well, Manfully, fearlessly, the day of trial bear,
For gloriously, victoriously, Can courage quell despair.
That's beautiful.
It's a beautiful poem, and I was particularly intrigued to find the word elastic in the middle of it.
Yet hope again elastic springs.
Because, you know, Charlotte Bronte was there writing, well, almost 200 years ago.
Yes, exactly.
No, it's absolutely beautiful.
I love it.
And I think elasticity and, I mean, plastic actually goes back a really long way to the
ancient Greeks because it simply meant mouldable so it goes back to a Greek word meaning ready to mould when soft
and elastic originally was all about spontaneous expansion I think of air and things so not the
elastic that holds up our trousers. Look if you are struggling with any of the spelling
because Susie's words sometimes can be quite challenging. Her trio can be found on the programme description blurb of each episode, along with the title and
the author of whatever poem I happen to have chosen for this particular week.
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He's back!
He's not so much
of a bandersnatch
as I thought actually.
He's done quite well today.
Yeah, he glumped
into the studio.
It's gully.