Something Was Wrong - S1 E5: The Devil is a Good Liar

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

Sara begins to uncover more about her Fiance. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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discretion when listening. I'm Tiffany Reese and this is something was wrong. There had been a rift in their relationship with my fiance. Shortly after we got engaged, they took me to dinner one night. And I remember thinking, this is weird. So we meet for sushi and I remember thinking, why is he not here? Why is he not here? He's now my fiance, we're a unit, like why is he not here? And my dad pretty much presented me with all these questions. He just said, we have questions, but we recognize that

we're on the outside looking in, but let me present you with what the outside looks like so that you can fill in the pieces. And I'm like fair enough. Might have said, this started off with promises of a piano. And I'm like, oh dear, warred. You know, going, here's why, you know, I don't have a pose in order for piano sitting in my front room already. We've chosen to pay things this way. And it's a long year plan. Like, why are you getting stuck up on some random dream he had that I don't think should happen anyway? He's like, OK, OK, OK.

Whoa. You know, because I was starting getting defensive. I'm used to having to explain away my parents' concerns. And so they are also like, OK, what about this wedding dress you were supposed to be flown to New York for this friend of his? And I'm just like, oh my gosh, that was Kimmy's thing. She shouldn't have promised that because now they're in London. They't help it. You know they can't fly me out to New

York when they're not even there and my mom's just like head tilt head tilt you know and I'm just like you guys chill the heck out. First of all why didn't you bring why didn't you invite him to this but the way the conversation started was my mom came to me and or asked me hey are you and I okay because I've always had a very close, very open relationship with my mom. And lately, I had been distancing myself and she had sensed things were different. So, at first, she didn't want to get in the middle of it because she thought, well, my daughter's never planned a wedding before. She's probably busy.

Sure. But over time, she would notice there are a couple of major misunderstandings that I would look back and go, oh, yeah, shoot, my band. I realize that that could have hurt my mom. And usually, there's some junk to come up in the wedding planning process where people have to apologize for things. So my mom was like, hey, on this one day,

were you mad at me, were you upset? And I went, oh my gosh, mom, I'm so sorry. No. And I would tell her exactly what happened. She'd go, oh, I'm so sorry. And it was great. It was good. So I thought, okay, my guard came down as I thought,

I'm so glad that you asked me to dinner to figure this out. Now I see why you didn't include him. This didn't have anything to do with him. It was normal. But then it turned into, okay, can you answer some questions about him? We've got some pieces that are not getting put together.

So I answered their questions, but then I walked away going, okay, good, we got that cleared up. Why couldn't he have been there? When we met up with her, Greg and Rose, to have the first conversation about, did these things add up to you? The dinner that he wasn't invited to. The dinner he wasn't invited to, and he got upset. He had to get a dinner with your own daughter.

Up to that point, it probably wasn't a week go by that we didn't see him. And get texts. And then after that dinner, we didn't see him for weeks or hear from him, which was scary me because I thought, oh, he's offended. Now how do we get close to him? How do we watch him? How do we stay within the vicinity? You know, keep our ears open because now he's offended. And now he's pulling her into that offense a little bit is when I talked to her about it I said I'm really sorry honey, but you're our daughter before you're his wife and It's kind of our job to make sure that you know this guy's a good guy and and She said well, I can understand where you said if you take you know a guy and you've heard his ego like this and and she used

You know some of his words that he fed her and I thought, uh-oh, uh-oh, he's pulling her away. Like, I could feel her pulling away. And I thought, okay, now this is never, ever happened. I've never had that kind of distance with her. If I did, I wasn't aware of it. We've always been really close, always been able to talk. We've had our normal mother daughter's stuff, but never have I felt her pull away. I was feeling her start to pull away closer to the wedding. It's understandable if he's upset with us and we called him up, I arranged for him to come over while I watched his dog and then called him to come home so that we could talk about

what happened at the dinner. And again he was very at that right here in his room. Everything we said oh yeah no I understand. Yep yep. So we're clear. Everybody's clear. We're just trying to protect Sarah and you know we're not trying to queue you anything. We just things don't line up We want to make sure they make sense and if Sarah's good with him that we're good. Oh, yeah, yeah There's all good all good. He left. It was not good. Oh, he did say in there well And he wouldn't look at him. He looked down and he said well a brother should go to a brother And he says you're not my brother like you should have come to me Why would we go and

tip our hand to you? We want to go to her and see if these things make sense. Why would we tell you what we're skeptical about so that you could defend it? Because you're pretty darn good at it. You know, but he did not understand us taking her aside. I said, once you get married, that would be different. We would go to you. But you're not married yet. She's ours before she's yours. Knowing what we know now, I know now why he was as mad as he was. He's being found out. So of course being open, Kimmy's texting me that night.

Kimmy started finding out, saying, hey, what's going on. And I was like, well, honestly, I don't know what to do. So I told her, my parents took me to dinner, and I don't know how to do it. They're just kind of concerned about some things. But she was the one who started to pitch it as your parents kept him out of it and put this on you and then I thought how dare my parents. So now we've got this rift of you guys mishandled this and now you've broken his trust because he feels that he has, I mean he drove up. Remember he had driven out to answer questions he had let himself get grilled at dinner he had laid himself before them it was the

perfect storm my parents went behind his back and didn't trust him enough to just ask him a few simple questions that had very simple answers so obviously none of the work he's put in means anything to them when really myally, my dad's like, my dad, classic military, you know. No, honestly, it doesn't. You're still my daughter and I owe him nothing. That was my dad's response, which is, I know. But in the moment, I love this man. I'm about to commit my life to him and I want my parents to respect you all about his son. Yeah, exactly. So I'm like, dad, go straight to my future husband, not to me, but it's

Kimi planting these ideas saying this isn't biblical, this isn't biblical, blah, blah, blah. There was just enough little grains of truth that I kind of threw it all in together and like my parents were the worst, you know, kind of a downside of being over-sheltered or protected or, you know, something like that. So after that, of course my mom being a peacemaker, wanted to make everything right, was devastated. When I told her how hurt I was and how much it hurt him, absolutely destroyed my mom. And my mom knows that my dad can come across as a little bit authoritarian, a little bit militant. He's gotten so much softer and so much, you know, more gentle over the years, but there's that little, you know, that's drinking him.

so much softer and so much more gentle over the years, but there's that little, you know, that's drinking him. And my mom wanted to make it right. And so she starts working her butt off. He's texting my fiance saying, I am so sorry, like we will do, please come over. Please come over. Well, he's working like crazy now. We're planning a wedding.

There are so many valid reasons as to why he couldn't all of a sudden drop everything and drive to Dixon like you had before. My mom starts trying to put together like manipulate situations where he and my dad are in the same place at the same time to talk it out and figure it out. So now my mom and I are on the phone arguing over what my dad shouldn't do so it's my mom's on my dad's side I'm on my fiance's side and now this is a new dynamic my mom and I had never experienced very unhealthy very unnecessary you know and I'm just like well I understand my mom's mindset that she's got to

stick out for her husband I'm sticking up for my you know future husband and my mom's like you are not married to him yet you be careful like when you are married you're in covenant you know then yes you are completely you know loyal but right now think with your head honey don't think with your heart something's wrong here you haven't signed that dotted line yet. And right now, your fiance is distancing himself from us. And we're going to him 110% and he's not reciprocating. He's not allowing us to make this right. And I wouldn't see it. I was just in so deep. And I had Kimmy in one ear and my mom and the other. And I was listening to Kimmy, pretty much. I was taking the side of the wrong person.

Did you ever talk to Kimmy or Brian on the phone? They either Skype, I think they Skypeed him when they were in South Africa and had adopted this little girl that they took my middle name, which is M- and put it in her American name that they gave her because they had so much respect for me. And I remember thinking, whoa, too fast, too soon. And you know the hell long. I had known them for a few months, but they said, you know, if our, you know, friend has fallen in love with you and you're the person he's chosen, you must be something amazing and we want our little girl to grow up to be someone like you.

Leading up to the wedding in the next month or two or three, my parents' panic is slowly building, which I don't know. We're moving. We're like full speed ahead. Didn't catch an actual lie until her shower. And she was opening gifts and one of her aunts said something about where they would live. And she said maybe eventually Texas because he hates California. And I thought, hates California. I remember that interview at the beginning, I said, where do you picture yourself living? And that was just a simple question. That didn't mean I want you to live here there or wherever. I just wanted to know where they might end up living.

And he had said, oh, I love California. That's where the tech world is. That's where I'm here to stay. And why he didn't want to be in Texas or anywhere else. Where he had been from or where his family was from. But when she said that, I thought, okay, somebody's lying to somebody here, but that we were so far along that that was another one of those, well, did I, did I really hear that at the beginning? Or did he change his mind? I did a background check. And a lot of the things, the timelines, did add up, but what bothered me was there was this address and then it was this address and this address and they were only like a few months apart. So I called a girlfriend of mine and I said, can I come over next time your son's home because he works for Facebook and he's very tech savvy obviously. So I went over and I talked to him and I said,

would you look this over for me and tell me what you think because he's in the same world as you. He works for Google, you work for Facebook, tell me what you think. And he said, well, wouldn't be that unusual to have a contract and then move on to another contract. But he said, this is a lot of different moves and usually you would stay at least a year. And he said, there's a lot of moving around in here. So it confirmed my fear that, you know, this guy's bouncing around why. And it also had a couple of arrests.

So I explained those away thinking, well, you know, the guy is 30 and he's been around a little bit. And it seemed like he went back in to get some things from a landlord that, you know, maybe he got evicted. It looked like he got evicted and then he got a break and enter. Well, I kind of excused that thinking, he went to get his own stuff maybe. Well, and I didn't tell Sarah

that I did the background check because she was already kind of pulling away and I didn't want her to go, oh, well, you really don't trust him. So, you know, pull away some more. And I thought, I'll give him that one. He probably went in to get his stuff. And later on when I did ask her about it,

I said, did you know that he had, I think, spent a night in jail or something? And she said, yeah. And she said, he went to get a friend's stuff out of their apartment. I went, okay. And that, to me, that wasn't a big deal. I just wanted to see any inconsistencies.

I was actually looking for who he was engaged to so that I could talk to the family. I would have done anything to find them and talk to them. But he had said that he sold his business and he got rid of everything at one point because his mother had cancer. So he went back home and I thought wow none of that was in there yeah none of that there was no cancer in there and when she went back she never heard of any any cancer at all if you're into true crime the generation-wide podcast is essential listening we started this podcast over 10 years ago to dissect some of the craziest and most notable murders, crimes, and conspiracy theories together, and we'd love for you to join us. Generation Y is one of the longest-running true crime podcasts out there, and we are still at it, unraveling a new case every week.

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We're in the car just to check up and be like, hey, we haven't talked to you in a while. You think we should maybe like compare notes and get this thing put together. And I could hear the panic in his friend's voice on the other end and I went, oh, something's wrong. And the guy goes, oh, wait, are you serious? I didn't know, like, when is the wedding? And I start hyperventilating going, oh my gosh. And my family looks at me like, oh gosh, typical.

Like, we, and I went, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, something's very, very wrong here. Come to find out there had been lines crossed where my fiancee apparently when he asked him to officiate and he said, yeah, sure man, never heard anything since and just assumed without contacting us that we made other plans and found somebody else local to officiate. So not only did my fiancee never follow up with him, he never followed up with us to confirm, come to, you know, now we're two weeks out and he's in a major transition with his church job

out where he lives and he's got kids and a wife and he can't just drop everything and fly out. Sure. To California, which I understand, but now we're left without an officiant. And I remember thinking, baby, this is a big deal. You said that to officiate someone's wedding, you're gonna freaking follow up. Even if that person doesn't, this is a big deal. You said that too fishy.

It's someone's wedding. You're going to freaking follow up. Even if that person doesn't say anything. And he just goes, he had reasons and explanations kind of. And I just thought, wow, you're really gracious toward your friend. That's the way I read it. And my parents though were the ones going, this is not normal.

And that's when major concerns were coming up for them. Which I understood, but my mom was like like if you really are that close or if you agreed to officiate, if you are, but you find a way and so they just couldn't like let this go because my mom kept putting and I kept thinking why are you driving this point home? I had reasons in my head for why his friends all of the things couldn't make it. Another big trigger or big indicator that things weren't right and it kind of led me back to where I how I felt in the very beginning with all my skepticism and whatnot was at wedding planning time and invitation time and guest list time. He didn't have anybody that's coming to his party. How coincidental. Nobody for no.

It's a wedding party even. At that time, and we're down at mailing out, you know, pass-by limitations and trying to figure out who's coming. Who isn't? And nobody other than his direct family on his side of the aisle was coming to the wedding. She wanted to kind of cut the list. I understand. And I was telling her, you know what, he shouldn't even care. You know, it's really kind of your wedding. And he should be just grateful that he's marrying you and so what? How

many guys really care about the numbers? She felt sorry for him. Who was supposed to stand next to him at the wedding? His brother. Yeah, but when the a fish he had dropped out two weeks before, his brother is ordained, I believe, and he is an elder in the church that he attends where they live and so he called his brother up and was like I have no choice can you officiate and his brother had to present it to the elder board and so they're church operates and of course they because he can't officiate a wedding without the approval stuff has to be like you know deemed biblically sound you know

union and he got the approval and he was gonna do it. So the plan was, no one was gonna stand next to my fiance because he was not our officiant. At the beginning, we used to laugh a lot, but well into our engagement. He made some kind of comment we're in the car. He said, he belly laughed. And I remember the feeling of surprise when he laughed.

And then I remember noticing the surprise and going, why am I surprised that I just made my fiance laugh that hard? I make people laugh all the time. He would be like, that was a good one. That was funny. He'd be like, you know, you have your moments, you know, like a while ago, like back in the beginning, you know, we first met. You got some singers, like he'd really make me laugh. And I'd be like, oh yeah, and inside I'm kind of hurt, but I don't want to take it personally because I don't want to be a baby But I'd be like what you don't think I'm funny now, you know kind of putting up this protective front And he'd be like, I mean, you know, you have your moments

Yeah, so then I'd suddenly start to think, oh, I guess I didn't have as much to offer as I thought I did But you know, he did tell me all the time. Well, you grew up with people, you know, praising your fearfully and wonderfully made self That phrase got repeated so many times and I'd be like, I mean, my name does mean princess and people often joked, you know, oh, the princess kind of thing. Man, I didn't realize what a high maintenance, you know, but he's opening my eyes to the reality of, I'm one of many and I don't actually know how the world works. But it was subtle. That didn't start at the beginning. At the very beginning of our relationship, I was the best thing that ever happened to him. And this thing started, this pattern started where I would ask him a question or something, and I would kind of go, well, wait, what about it? He'd go, whoa, whoa, put his hands up,

and he'd be like, don't get all defensive. You're getting defensive. And I go, no, no, and I'd start to get frustrated, which is a natural reaction. But now I've been told that my frustration is defensiveness. So now I don't know what to do with all these feelings. Because I don't think they're appropriate anymore. And he told me he's like, babe, there's a point where we're in our new house in the kitchen. And I broke down crying. Because he said he leaned on the counter and he clasped his hands and he looked me in the eye and he had this real gentle look on his face of concern and he looked me right in the eye and he goes as your future husband help me figure out how to help you through this thing that you do

because what there's gonna come a day that you do it to people when we like we are in a group and I'm going to have to stop you and it is not appropriate. And I was like, what do I do? Because apparently, I do this thing where I tend to steamroll the other person's worth. We're in a conversation and we maybe have two different perspectives on something. I will wear that other person down until they acquiesce or until they acknowledge why I feel the way I feel. Patent false.

Thank you. I mean, I've been with you for 10 years, but like, what do I know? If I feel unheard or if I feel like my opinion is thrown out the window, I will get frustrated. Because I'm like, I have reasons for feeling the way I feel. Would you just acknowledge it? I don't need you to agree. I just need you to respect me as a human. And we can move on.

But he would say that I had this way of, he said I would build a laundry list, and I would exhaust that person until they finally would go, OK, yes, I see your point. So there was just enough truth that I actually believed him and I was devastated. So this moment in our kitchen, he was like, there is this major character flaw on you and help me love you through it.

Help me, equip me as your future husband and how to correct this and stop this because there's going to come a day where you do this to somebody when we're having company over or we're in a group or something. And I'm going to have to have to say honey like in front of people. So he asked me, he said, do you want me to stop you in front of people or do you want me to wait until we're in private and then tell you that you did it, you did the thing and it shouldn't happen again. And I was like, I don't know. And then once I was crying and heartbroken and embarrassed and feeling like a kid, like

literally like a little kid that just got chastised, not because he made me feel like a little kid, but I was deserving of feeling like a little kid. He would come over and go, oh honey, come here, come here. And he would wrap me up in this big hug, arms around me, this big guy. And he'd be like, I love you. I'm here for you. My purpose is to get up every morning and ask myself, how can I die to myself so that you can flourish? That was his biggest message that he preached. So the way you can

see how my brainwashing happened over months that all of these things that when I tell the story, it sounds like I was being nitpicked, but what I was being told, what I was trained to believe, was that his whole purpose was raising me up so that I could improve. Kind of thing, and I could be the best person I could be, and that despite all of these little flaws or little things that he was seeing in me, he loved me selflessly, like Christ was called to love the church, and like this was supposed to be modeled in biblical marriage. And he doesn't know that for months before I met him, I had been set up because I had been praying, Lord, one day when I do meet somebody, I asked that it be something that helped me see you. Like, bring me a man that shows me Jesus and how he was an example of, you know, the bride groom and the bride, you know, the church being the bride kind of thing, and then are called to love their wives

as Christ loves the church. So in my mind, this is a good thing. And asked him, yes. So for months, I mean, I would, my roommate and I would take communion, not that I was desperate for a guy, but you know, we're seeking Lord, and of course one day we wanna get married.

So I'm just like Lord help me see you in my future relationship And so it comes this night and shining armor preaching everything that I've been praying and private So you can see how my heart was set up to fall for something like this 100% so you fast forward nine months and I have now Turned him into my source of information and my he now is my opinion. I don't think anymore. It's scary when you watch it in action and you feel you can do nothing about it.

It's like this thing happening before your eyes and you're feeling it and you're feeling it pulling in a direction and you can't grab it. You can't get a hold of it and that's your child that you know you've watched grow, you know, for 30 years and it's just it's just a horrible feeling of thinking what what's happening to them? What's going on? Because you don't know yourself. You just know something is off and you just hope you're wrong. And you don't want to push them away because you know 30 years old and made really good decisions and you know always walked pretty straight path and and when we questioned her he was okay

with it if she could answer the questions. I never fully was. I thought even if she answers them, that doesn't mean that she's had the kind of experience to be able to see through some of these things. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. I didn't want to be that hovering parent, but there were times I would just wake up in the night and think that something doesn't line up. I don't know what it is.

Like I would just, my insides would just turn, think, mm, something wrong. I need somehow appear, I need to go and talk to some other people and I'd wake up sometimes crying and just I would just pray. I'd call up friends that I knew were prayer warriors and I'd say, hey, pray for my daughter. And I was constantly at prayer meetings at the church and just asking God show her show us If this is if this is wrong slam the door if it's right show us give us you know grace for him

It was it was like torment My mom I found out contacted my boss's wife, so my relationship with my boss and his family, I've known them since college, and they are like second parents to me, and they were actually going to provide their house and their backyard for the wedding. So really amazing, and I work with their eldest daughter who is one of my dearest friends, so she's very closely involved in all this too. Well my mom reached out to her mom, my boss's wife, could out of desperation, going she just needed to talk to another mom who had a daughter get married before and say, is this anxious feeling that I have is this normal or is

there something that I need to pay attention to? So they went to breakfast on a Friday morning while I was at work and the wife shows up to the office where I work and she's like, I'm about to get in the tree with your mom and I'm like, oh my gosh, are you kidding me? Something's wrong. You know, my mom probably is dealing with pre-wedding and her oldest child. You know, she had a hard time when I went to college

so she's going through some emotional stuff and getting married. And I'm just like, okay, go fix it. You know, have fun. And then she comes back and I'm dying to hear what's going on, but I'm also working. So we're really busy. And she pulls me into a back office and she proceeds to say,

basically, you don't mess with this woman. She is mama bear. She sits me down and I've never been on the receiving end of her, like this version of her. And she points at me and she says, I am now concerned. Uh oh. And she said, I honestly thought that your mom just needed to be assured of the way that

things go until I heard the things that she had to say. And she mentioned just some changes in my personality and character that she had seen. And I tried to explain some of that away. And some of my biblical perspectives have really changed. And this woman's known me for years. And she's like, these as far as I was concerned were pillars of who you were and now they're they're changing so help me understand so that I'm not also concerned. So things that I like the way that God speaks to us in prayer and through the word ways that I believed he basically had me discounting all of it. Saying, nope, God does not implant thoughts in your brain even if it's scripture.

It's through scripture that he speaks to you. Or he does not, like, basically miracles don't happen anymore. Things like that, that I'm like, I've actually, with my eyeballs, I have seen someone get healed. I have been healed of things, you know. So I just like, I'm not one of those extreme people, but I have experienced it. You can't discount what I have felt and seen. And he would say, I don't know what you're experiencing, babe, but that obviously wasn't, you know, biblical. There are other, you know, forces out there. There's good and evil and evil poses as good. So what you might have experienced was maybe not God. And I'm just like, and he'd be like, you know, devil's a good liar. She this, you know, my boss is wife is sitting me down saying, I know you. I know

what makes you you and I know why people love you. And I am seeing that those are the things that are changing. That is not something that should change in a healthy relationship. It should grow, it should flourish, it should be stronger. You should be given space to develop, and this is opposite of that. I mean, I was terrified. I was at, because I thought, okay. I never did I think maybe this shouldn't happen. I just thought we have a long road of convincing. When I reached out to her boss's wife, who's extremely discerning and we had breakfast

together and she just said, oh no, no, no, something's wrong. Because I poured my heart out and I said, you know, this happened, this happened, this happened. We talked to her and I gave her, you know, everything I knew and she just said, oh no, she affirmed everything in that was coming from my gut that said, flashing red light, something's wrong and as she said, there is something wrong, I'm going to talk to her. When I did not know what to do, I finally thought, I'm going to talk to Emily. When I did not know what to do, I finally thought, I'm going to talk to Emily. I don't like going to one kid about another kid or whatever,

but I thought, this is different. This is her life. Emily, I remember Rate where she was. She was walking up the stairs. And she came in and she just wad's up. And I said, how do you feel about it? She goes, why? It's like, I finally got on board.

And I said, because here's what I'm feeling. And she said, if you feel that way, you need to go to her. You need to talk to her. And I said, well, I'm a little bit apprehensive because if she defends him and pulls away, and she said, you really need to go to her mom. And she said, the only reason I got on board at all

was because when I talked to you guys, you guys made me feel like I was being judgmental. And so I got on board at all was because when I talked to you guys, you guys made me feel like I was being judgmental and so I got on board and I stuck those feelings, but she said, I still feel the same way. She said, you do? She said, yeah, I still feel, you know, something's not right. I remember that very vividly.

I was walking up the stairs, there's probably four steps up. I was holding on to the railing and I was sitting at the kitchen table and she said, what do you think of me now? Kind of like she was checking in, like she does that in the beginning of all of my brother and sisters relationships. I remember thinking when she asked me that, it's a little late in the game, like I responded with, what do you mean? She goes well, now that time has passed and you know him a lot better, do you still? She goes, well, now that time has passed and you know

him a lot better, do you still approve of him? And my thought was, does it matter? Like, I was just, I was so thrown by this line of questioning and I said, what, Mom, what are you, what are you talking about? What are you getting at? What do you mean to I approve of him? Like, I'm, what? And I regret now, but I was a little bit rude and feisty at the time because I had somewhere to be. And I was going upstairs for a reason. I was probably getting ready to go to work or something. And she's like, I just, I want to know

if how he's been acting lately if you still approve of him. And I said, I mean, I guess I'm not his his biggest fan I'm not really sure how to answer that and I said are you having an issue or you you're not approved for them or are you having a problem and she said yeah she's having a problem you're not approved she doesn't approve of him anymore if she said I just feel like I am giving my daughter to a pack of wolves and I said, well, what are you going to do? And she said, I don't know. She doesn't know if she should say anything. She doesn't know, genuinely doesn't know what to do.

I'm trying to tell her, I said, mom, I think you should tell her. Quite honestly, when she came to me a week before the big day and said, I just don't feel right. The first thing I thought was, we can't stop this now. This turns way too far down the track. And we talk to talk to talk to talk to find because I really talk to Sarah.

Next time. Why are you doing this to me? Why is this my life? I've worked so hard and I have asked over and over. Please tell me, please tell me, and so you're telling me eight days before my wedding? Sorry, you lost your chance. I'm convinced you all will be convinced over time. Something was wrong, is written, recorded, edited and produced by me Tiffany Reese. A heartfelt thank you to Sarah, her family, and friends for participating in this series. Check out Sarah's personal blog, Space and Purpose, via the show notes.

All of the music this season comes from the band Gladracks. Special thank you to Alyssa Doyle for her hype support in story-editing assistance. Shout out to my husband Michael and our three children for encouraging me every step of the way. If you're enjoying something was wrong, please subscribe now and consider sharing with your friends and family. And like literally anybody you've ever met. Just that'd be great. Thank you. If you would like to share your story with us, you can now call us and leave voicemail. You can remain anonymous or share your first name and location. Our number is 1-323-379-5678.

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