Something Was Wrong - S13 E5: [Natalia] Kinda Sorta Yeah

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

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Starting point is 00:01:03 Thank you so much for listening. We don't know anybody until you turn to turn to run Hi, I'm Natalia. I'm originally from the East Coast, but I'm now living in Northern California. I am a queer black woman who is ultra-femmed presenting, definitely bubbly and out there. I have tattoos which apparently don't match up with my personality type. I'm a definite mix of different cultures. I have lived a very long and traumatic life for my very few years that I've been here. And I feel like my lessons I've learned throughout life had led me to make better choices. It's led me to becoming the person I am today.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And while I don't like going through experiences, I definitely believe that who I am today is someone who I would not change. So the story starts before the actual story starts and the story starts for me. I've had really bad decisions and been in really bad places. And because of that, I have lived with abusive relationships far longer than I should have. But my grandparents were always the one who pulled me out. My grandparents were always the ones who made safe home for me. I always knew I could always go home to them. And I would do
Starting point is 00:03:15 that whenever I needed help. And my grandfather was my biggest cheerleader. And my grandmother on my maternal side was just as strong and just as proud. The end of June, being in July of 2020 in the middle of the pandemic. Life was pretty great for me actually. It wasn't even that bad. I loved working from home. I was outside of my bathing suit. I was getting the deepest hand. And at the same time, my grandmother was fighting cancer, and I had 12 hours to get to the East Coast before she passed away. I didn't make it, and it was probably the one most devastating parts of my life as the fact that I didn't make it home.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I had dealt with a lot, and she had, after I left my ex-Landon, she actually welcomed me into her home. I left Landon with whatever I could fit in my car and I drove in the middle of the night. I showed up with a dog and some clothes and no job and she opened her home and she made sure I was safe and she made sure I got a job and she took care of my dog and I was working. My grandfather was the one who gave me money when I needed it or when landed would kick me out. I would go to my grandfather's house
Starting point is 00:04:35 because he lived 30 minutes away. So they were my strongest cheerleaders and after she died, my grandfather quickly got sick and so 90 days later, my grandfather also died. And then within two weeks, my aunt, who was like one of the women who raised me like my grandmother's sister, she also passed away. So within a hundred days from July to October, I lost probably like the three strongest pillars of strength in my life. And I was at the lowest I had ever been. I ended up losing crazy amounts of weight because I stopped eating.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I ended up losing my job. And because of this, because I was just grieving so deeply and so hard, and so my depression was probably at the deepest it's ever been in my entire life because I felt completely empty. This is important to my story because I had been through hell and back with Landon. I had gone to therapy and had gone to a trauma counselor and I had done all of these things but it didn't matter
Starting point is 00:05:47 because when my life circumstance changed it felt like I almost forgot all the lessons I had learned and I was so desperate to be happy and so desperate to not be alone and feel so lonely that I forgot everything that my body had already taught me, what not to do. And so that's why this is the first chapter for me. It's that period of loss that lowered my defenses. And then I met Tyrone. I'm so so sorry for your losses. I imagine that had to be just such an incredibly sad and heartbreaking time in your life. Did you have anybody in your life that you could lean on or were you really isolated at that time?
Starting point is 00:06:35 At the same time that my grandmother was literally like the same day that my grandmother was dying, my landlord had actually asked me to move out of the house. So I was moving at the same time. So I was moving into it and a location somewhere where I had more privacy, which I don't know if it was a good and bad thing at the time because I definitely feel like I isolated myself. I know that my friends, my really close friends were really worried about me, like very, very worried. My mom was really worried about me. She said the way that I described how I felt after my grandmother died was the same way
Starting point is 00:07:14 she felt after my dad had passed away when she was like 29. And the way I described it, it just made her so nervous for me. I had the circle of people who were waiting in the wings who would order me food and have it delivered to my home, but I wouldn't eat it. I had people with the same time. You can only try to force someone to talk to you for so long and so hard and so much before you have to recognize they just needs space to be. I ended up taking off some time because of my mental health was just really, really bad and devastated.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Around this same time that I had to move that my grandmother had passed away, I had been dating Monique and Monique and I had been dating for a while. And we decided that we needed to take a break. So it was a like perfect storm of just loneliness. But Monique and I are still really good friends to this day. We talk all the time. We ended up dating again after this whole tyrone issue,
Starting point is 00:08:20 but Monique is someone who even during this whole Tyrone issue was the rock in my life and she was one of the people who would come in and make sure I left the house or make sure that I was fed. She was there for this whole story and she definitely lifted me up and held me when like it got really crazy and rocky. She is definitely someone who was important to this story as well. So, dentering this period of loneliness and being in a pandemic where you really can't leave house, there's no bars, there's no going out with my friends to distract me, there's nothing but being isolated in my apartment with my roommate and mainly my room in my bed because I was just so sad. I Started downloading dating apps seen the tenders and all of those different apps
Starting point is 00:09:14 But I found this one that was specific to queer people which I was really a huge fan of It was almost like this little community and they had like the little chat rooms and it felt a little bit different. It was something to distract me from how sad life was. I didn't expect to meet anyone, but I enjoyed swiping, left and right, and starting conversations and not really going anywhere with them. And then this face popped up and it was Tyrone and I thought he was cute. His profile did not use key hem pronouns. So at the time I met him under a different name and we were exchanging and talking and going back and forth. It was really nice. It was really easy to talk to him. He thought I was a catfish. I thought he was a catfish, so I was like, let's face time and he didn't expect any of this. We
Starting point is 00:10:12 face timed and that first night we talked for maybe like 30 minutes to an hour, but the conversation just flowed and it was so easy to talk to. And it was so great to talk to someone who didn't know anything about me, who didn great to talk to someone who didn't know anything about me who didn't know my history who didn't know how sad I was who couldn't tell you how much weight I lost had no idea six months ago my hair was really really long but because of all of this I had shaved it off in my bathroom pandemic style. He didn't know anything about this about me and it felt so great to be someone who wasn't so sad all the time. And so we went from texting on this dating app to like face timing
Starting point is 00:10:56 regularly pretty quickly. It felt super comfortable. I found that later that even though I put the search to Northern California around where I live, he actually had changed his location and he was living in Southern California. It had to be an event to jago meet him. So face timing worked and texting worked. We would end up pretty quickly being on the phone all night and falling asleep, talking to each other and then I would wake up in the morning and he would still be there. His face time would still be live or the phone would still be there and we had like literally slept the night next to each other. It was comfortable. My friends saw the change in my disposition.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I was happy. I felt good. I felt productive at work again because life wasn't so sad. It wasn't so gray. It wasn't so lonely anymore. I was walking my dog and we were on the phone. At this time, I still knew him with she with she her pronouns and I still knew him by his dead name and I said something that was like my girl and he thought I referred to him and just
Starting point is 00:12:16 completely blew up. I have many trans friends I am very active in my local queer community. I am friends with people all over the country, all over the world, in all different type of spectrums. And so I've dated people in different spectrums. Sometimes you can tell that someone's not comfortable with something and you can kind of lean away from it, but I never really got the chance with him. It immediately, it was this big blow up. I felt so horrible that I had touched nerve,
Starting point is 00:12:48 that I had no idea that I was touching. And it wasn't even in that specific gendered way, but it was the way I said it. I know from my friends how hurtful things like this could be. So I immediately felt apologetic. I was immediately sorry. Then we started talking and I realized that he had no friends in the queer community.
Starting point is 00:13:10 They think that was part of his way of blending in and seeming, quote unquote, normal. He did his best to blend and that's what he needed to do to survive within his industry. And I respected it. And I said, hey, if you have questions, I can answer as best as I can if you need some guidance in this, but also I have people in your location
Starting point is 00:13:37 who have been going through the same situation and who have been going through the surgeries and the medications and hormones and, you know, different body image things and I could get you a community if you want. Let me connect you to my friends. He was so into that idea and I think this is probably the first time in his life that someone accepted him for who he was at his word without trying to talk about it, without trying to explain it, especially in something that I've found it eventually that he didn't even understand himself. He had very little understanding about what
Starting point is 00:14:14 was going through his own body or the proper words and terminology. I would be like, oh no, no, no, you can say whatever, but let me just explain the definition of what you're saying so you know what you're saying and you don't offend some of the else. Refer to yourself in a way that you might not want to be referred to as. I reached out to my people where he lived and I connected him to some of the people I called my closest friends and people that could get him in touch with the community. My friends were getting in contact with him. Everybody had nothing but great things to say
Starting point is 00:14:49 about their interactions with him. It's not something I do often. I'm good at compartmentalizing, but this is one of the first times that I started to shake the waters a little bit and have myself be in a place of uncomfortability about melding worlds. He was really interested in finding out about top surgery,
Starting point is 00:15:12 and I got him in touch with a friend who had just had top surgery in the week's prior and finding doctors and talking about insurance. He felt comfortable with me to talk about these situations, and I felt really great about that. I felt like I could be like a long-term help. And it got deeper and deeper from there. Things moved really, really fast where within a few weeks I'm flying down to SoCal to meet him for the first time.
Starting point is 00:15:47 The first time I met him was at the airport. When he picked me up from baggage clean and I was so nervous, everything was nerve-wracking, but the minute I met him, I felt comfortable and I got in the front seat of his car and I was like, hey, how are you? And he was like, hey, nice to meet you. There are a couple of red flags looking back that I should have done playing in my back home immediately, but for the most part, that was probably one of the most romantic weekends of my entire life. It was such a weekend that was so good for my well-being, my mental health, I came back so energized and great. I flew down there on the Friday evening after work. We went to Target. I forgot my cell phone charger, but it was right by the hotel
Starting point is 00:16:42 that we were staying at downtown. There's this really long line. It's the pandemic. People aren't wearing masks. This is before the vaccination. This is when people are like, stay inside. Don't go to the store if you had to. I had not left my house in weeks at this point. So this is like really outside of my comfort zone. I was like, let's just go through this self-checkout line.
Starting point is 00:17:03 It's way faster. It's way easier and we don't have to be in the store. Let's hurry up and get out of here. I want to go. And he said to me, I don't work for Target. So I'm not going to check myself out. And I thought that was the oddest thing to force yourself to stand in a 20-minute line because you don't get paid by Target to check yourself out of line. But people have political beliefs as self-checkout. So I wasn't going to push. I met him like an hour ago and I was about to spend the next 72 hours with him. And then we get to the checkout person and I had my little cell phone charger and he's like, oh don't worry, I got it, I'll pay for it. Something I found really
Starting point is 00:17:42 interesting is that he assumed that I made less money than he did. I let him believe that because it's none of his business, but he assumed I couldn't pay for anything. And so if you offered to pay, I'm like, I can take it, but if you want to, don't let me stop you. It felt like a show for him. It was like a show of a flash for him, which is something that might impress other people and other people might feel really great about it, but I don't need you to pay for my stuff, I got it. But I mean, if it makes you happy, I'm not gonna stop you. We get up to the check counter
Starting point is 00:18:14 and he's like paying for everything and he turns to me and he said, can you do me a favor and keep track of how much I'm spending? And I looked at him crazy and I said, I'm not your bookkeeper, I'm not your bookkeeper. I'm not your accountant. And I'm definitely not your secretary. So no, it felt like at the time,
Starting point is 00:18:33 and I still believe today, is that he wanted me to remember how much he spends on me. He would keep track of basically how much I owed him and how much he was due back in return. That's not how I live my life normally. When I go out to dinner with my friends, it's like, you know, there's six of us. If I had a salad, we'll just divide it by six. Like, it'll come out in the wash anyways, especially if you're in some type of relationship. I thought it was odd and assumed that he was nervous, so we'd kept pushing. We get back to the hotel and it's this really nice hotel that he booked.
Starting point is 00:19:09 It's downtown LA and it's beautiful. It's a boutique hotel. I'd miss the warm weather because you know up in Northern Cal it is way colder than LA. He drove me down to San Diego just to go to lunch. It was to go to this one restaurant that he had been talking about and he's like, I have to take you there. You would love it. We get down to this restaurant and we're wearing cute outfits and he's telling me how beautiful I look.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I feel so amazing and I haven't felt amazing in so long that it feels good to feel good. We go to this really great black owned restaurant and he's like, what do you want? And I'm not hungry because I haven't eaten in weeks. I haven't really eaten honestly in months, that's a point. I don't do full meals. I can pick and like eat something somewhere, but I'm not eating because life is crappy and I am sad. Nothing tastes good to me because I know my grandmother could make it better. So I couldn't decide and he's like, you know what? Let's just get one of everything. In this nonprofit, a taco spot where like $3 tacos are $5 tacos.
Starting point is 00:20:26 We're talking like $25 to $50 a plate here. And he's ordering like one of every one of all the appetizers, three meals that we were talking about, a couple of desserts, some sides. For two of us, and this kind of fed like a whole family, it's so much food, and it's so heavy, and it's so rich, and we're staying in a hotel room. We have no place food and it's so heavy and it's so rich and we're staying in a hotel room. We have no place to store it. We're not going to heat
Starting point is 00:20:48 it up again. It felt very wasteful to me. This is not how I was raised. I grew up in a working class family. You didn't throw out food. Everything was recycled. There were so many of us. All of my cousins were always around. My grandparents and my mother, their immigrants. They came from a country that people we consider third world, but it's so rich in history. You didn't have food like that. They came here for a better life, so you don't throw things out because you don't know when you're going to get fed again. That's the world that I lived in, and that's the world that I was raised in. I shut my lights not because I care about thing electricity, but because my grandfather didn't want to waste money because you don't have it. And so it didn't make sense to me to order
Starting point is 00:21:30 all of this food, but he was insistent that it would make me and him happy. We ordered all this food and it's so expensive and not even finished anything of it, even the things that he wanted the most, or something that I had a bite of. he'd be like, that's fine. As long as you ate it and you were happy and I was like, wow, you really just care about me eating. You are so focused in making sure that I am taking care of myself when I don't feel like I can even take care of myself. It felt so great.
Starting point is 00:22:01 We're having this really great time and we're seeing up having these long conversations, the leftovers from all these different restaurants or ordering in tacos or we're going to this little taco spot or we're walking to this fancy steak restaurant and he is like, whatever you want, let's get two of those. He's calling a lift for a six minute walk because I don't want you to scuff up your sneakers because he's got a huge sneaker head and I had really nice brand new Jordans on and he's like, no, no, no, I don't, I don't want you to walk, which is way more money that you even need to spend on something that's six minutes
Starting point is 00:22:34 away. But again, it was that flash. This is how people determine that they're cared for and it doesn't work for me. I didn't care about the money. I cared about how I felt. I went with it and it felt great. It was a really good weekend. At the same time, it really wasn't. It was something that I should have left and never returned back to because there were red flags him telling me what to wear.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But I thought he was telling me because I wasn't matching the aesthetic of the place that we're going to. I was too overdressed or not dressed up enough. I went with it, but he was making sure I had makeup on. I remember being in the shower and looking over and he's looking through the crack of the door and he has his phone up. The hair on my back of my neck kind of stood but it was a few red flags but not enough to like put my finger on. The last day I was there we ordered in brunch
Starting point is 00:23:46 We ordered in brunch a $150 worth of food for two people, for breakfast. We're eating in the hotel room. We're talking about life and past relationships. I don't know what he said. That made me pause and ask this question, but I remember something in two of the least said, you need to ask. This is a question I've never asked anybody honestly before. I said, does anyone have a restraining order against you? And he chuckled and laughed, and he's like, well, kind of sort sorta yeah. What if you were trafficked into a cult over shot nine times, or fell in love with a vampire, or went into a minor surgery and woke up one week later, paralyzed? What would you do? I'm Whit Missaldine, the creator of this is actually happening, a podcast from Wondry
Starting point is 00:24:50 that brings you extraordinary true stories of life-changing events told by the people who lived them. From a young man that dunes his entire future with one choice, to a woman who survived a notorious serial killer. You'll hear their first person account of how they overcame remarkable circumstances. Each episode is an exploration of the human spirit and personal discovery. These haunting accounts sound like Hollywood movies, but I assure you, this is actually happening. Followed this is actually happening wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wonder app. I was like, what do you mean kind of sort of yeah? Like how does that work explain this to me?
Starting point is 00:25:38 He started explaining the story to me of how he and this girl had lived with each other. She lived in Northern Cal, actually, which is really funny, not far from me where I lived at the time when he knew me. He was going back and forth that the flight attendants knew who he was because he was doing regular commuter trips from SoCal to North Cal and coming home on the weekends to stay with her and then flying on Mondays to go to work. She had been a leasing agent for an apartment building complex and there's this little known clause in your lease
Starting point is 00:26:18 that if you feel unsafe or if you had to get a restraining order against someone either within the building or in your apartment itself, a partner spouse roommate or whatever the situation is, that if you had to get a restraining order that it gives you the option to break lease without a penalty. And so he said that she had filed the restraining order to be able to break the lease and find a new apartment someplace else. That struck me as so odd because I feel like there's so many other things that you could have done, situations that you could have come up with, especially if that's your job as a leasing agent to come up with another blue poll, but I was letting him tell me the story. So while she had the restraining order against him,
Starting point is 00:27:10 they were dating back and forth and then they had some random fight that she supposedly started and he went out and took the trash and when he went out and took the trash, she had called the police and locked the door behind him and because of the restraining order, he had got arrested.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And it was this really convoluted story, and it was really weird. And the way he described it didn't make sense to me. It had been through an abusive relationship, and it sounded really toxic at minimum. We're going back and forth, and we're talking about this toxic relationship that he was in. I start bringing up my toxic relationship with Landon Things that I had to do to survive when I left him. I Turned to Tyrone and I was really clear. I said damn. I'm letting you know right now This is the thing I had to do to survive. This will not be the type of relationship I go into again. And he's like I would never I have my brother. I
Starting point is 00:28:11 Talked to him about the way that he talks to my mother. I talked to him. I'm a brother. He talks to my sisters I see how men treat women and I do not want any woman to feel Disrespected and I was like right, well, maybe we're young and we're dumb and we do stupid things and we get in stupid toxic relationships. And maybe it was just like a bad period in his life. I'm probably not getting the full story because literally we just met.
Starting point is 00:28:38 But at the same time, this is something I need to pay attention to. I'm thinking this in my head and he turns to me after I explained to him about how I'm not going to do this again and he says to me, now just so you know, my ID still has the female gender marker. So if something were to happen, So if something were to happen, the cops just think that it's two girls fighting. When he said that to me, I was completely freaked out. And I knew in my heart of heart that if I told anyone they would tell me to run, but it felt so good to be in that situation and to feel so seen and to feel so cared for
Starting point is 00:29:28 that I didn't tell anyone. I didn't forget it, but I didn't tell anyone. I think not telling anyone in that particular comment is the turning point for me. Looking back now, that's the moment that I know I should have like walked away and never came back. I wanted to feel great. So I stayed. I said, okay, and I went into people, please remote.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Ignoring it. I'm gonna be different. I'm not like her. I don't know why, because I'd lived this life before. I have already done this before but I had forgotten who I was. And that seemed weekend. He had this woman who was his best friend and she was calling all the time and they were feast timing and she was saying hi but it gets weirder later. So we go to the airport and we have this dramatic goodbye where we're driving to the airport in this rental car and he's like holding my
Starting point is 00:30:39 hand. He's crying and I'm crying, and when am I gonna see you again? And like tomorrow is already too long. This like rom-com moment, or crying, and I kiss him, go buy him a car, and I roll my carry on into the airport, and I'm sobbing as I'm going up the escalator. Then I look over, and he is standing outside the car and he's crying and he's like watching me go until he can't see me anymore. And the woman behind me starts crying because she's like, oh my god, this is the most romantic thing I've ever seen. And her husband's completely mortified, but it was like a movie the entire weekend was like a movie. I get past security and we're on the phone again
Starting point is 00:31:27 and we're talking until the flight takes off. I land by my house and I'm calling my friends. Everyone wants to know, so how was it? Hear from you all weekend. Monique calls me and we're being really good friends. Like friendly platonic life partner in type of situation. She's like, so how was it? And I was like, it was really good.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And I started telling her about everything that's going on. And she's like, so like the sex. Like, how was the sex? And I was like, actually, that was the weird part. Like, we didn't have sex that much. She's like, the we that you guys were talking, the energy that was over the phone, like I fully expected to be this crazy intimate weekend. We didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:32:12 He spent the whole weekend making sure I was fed and making sure I was cared for, making sure that all this other stuff was happening. I also chalked it up too. Maybe he's just not comfortable. Maybe this is his body, this Morphea, that he's not comfortable taking off his clothes or he's not comfortable being intimate
Starting point is 00:32:29 and that's just not where he is. I can work with somebody like that. We can come up with things that work for him where he feels comfortable, where I feel comfortable. I'm not gonna push you to do something that you don't feel comfortable with. I have always been in polyamorous relationship, but I understand that's not for everybody. So I was really clear about who I am and what I do and
Starting point is 00:32:53 who I do it with. He was not on that page in the beginning and we would have hour-long conversations about feelings. He was like, I would feel really more comfortable if you were dating anybody else at the time and I was like, all right, cool, that works for me. We can reassess later. Is that work for you? He's like, I would feel really more comfortable if you weren't dating anybody else at the time. And I was like, all right, cool. That works for me. We can reassess later. Is that work for you? He's like, great. That works for me too. Then as time progressed, all of a sudden things started changing, but they were changing without him telling me. So that woman who he was talking to, who I thought he was his best friend, and that he had known for a while, all of a sudden, I stopped hearing about her and then he was telling me that he was going out with his friends and I'm like, go have fun and enjoy, I'll talk to you later. And then it became within
Starting point is 00:33:35 days of that, he also was like, you know what, let's not be exclusive. And I was like, I'm also comfortable with that too. I wasn't trying to pin myself down, but this is where the story starts to get a very like a little lifetimey for me. We're having these really deep conversations about commitment, but at the same time, we're also having these conversations about us and what that looks like. We're dealing with long-term plans. We're discussing renting a house for like a couple of months because we're both working from home. He's like, let's work together. Let's like be together.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I'm like, yeah, that would be great. I could work from home anywhere. Everyone else is doing it. Everyone's buying RVs. Let's do something crazy. He is looking into different type of rentals and different coastal cities. I'm talking to my boss to see what that would look like at the same time.
Starting point is 00:34:32 He's trying to pick an insurance that would work well with getting top surgery. We're looking at all of his different plans together. It's really expensive to have this type of surgery. So we were trying to find the best insurance plan that would cover the most modern medical stuff for him. He was also going to need someone to take care of him. He didn't have friends who understood his transness. He didn't have family that understood his transness. He didn't even understand his transness and his gender identity and his exploration. He didn't have a support system to support his transition. And I know from my friends,
Starting point is 00:35:14 I've witnessed, I see how the community supports each other. I've seen groups of friends form healing support systems where people are bringing meals, people are coming over and doing chores, people are helping take people to doctors appointments, all of these different things, and I could not as a queer person watch someone who is trans go through this alone as a human being that's just so hard to witness. I made myself available. I said, how can I help you? We start talking about insurances and it really came down to the insurance that I had at the time was actually the best plan for people who were trans who want to get some type of surgery because my plan covered the most with the least amount of deductible.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And then he starts loading the idea, maybe we should live together up where I live and see maybe he can get surgery up here. Maybe he can get a better deal up in Northern California because they seem to have a larger network. I was like, you're not going to be on my insurance because there's nothing connecting you to me. You living with me doesn't mean anything to the insurance company if they don't care.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And so we start talking about, hey, I think this is going to be long term and he's like, I think this is going to be long term too. So let's start talking about getting married and going to like the local court getting aloved and having no one know about it, being our little secret, then you could get covered under insurance to get your surgery. And then we can be married from afar and do this untraditional lifestyle for a little bit
Starting point is 00:36:56 until we can come together and do this long term thing. And so we start talking like, all right, well, if we're gonna do this, we have to have these big conversations that we're talking about children, we're talking about how we see talking like, all right, well, if we're going to do this, we have to have these big conversations. So we're talking about children, we're talking about how we see our life. We're talking about the big things that you need to talk about in order to combine lives and be comfortable. We're looking at engagement rings, which is insane because after Landon said, I will never be legally tied to anyone in the world ever again.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And now I'm he's sitting there explaining to this guy what my favorite ring would look like. My friends are so happy for me because they are like she is making these wildly in love life choices. You hear them all the time. I met them on the first date and I just knew that they were the one. And I was like, I can do this. I can be this person for this person because this is who I am. This is what I do. I love with everything that I have. So we're having these really heavy discussions.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And I only met in one time. We're face timing. We're having all of these really heavy live conversations. And we're agreeing. And we're on the same page. We're talking about adoption instead of me giving birth because giving birth in a hospital scares me so much. And we're talking about adoption instead and he was a foster kid. So that was super important to him. If I'm going to have a child, I want to be a stay at home mom.
Starting point is 00:38:22 And he was like, I totally understand. I'm on the same beach with you. What can we do to make it happen? This is what the five-year plan needs to be for me because in five years, I'll be at this salary and then you can do X, Y, and Z. These are the conversations that we were having. And then we're also having red flags go off at the same time.
Starting point is 00:38:43 It's like, you took the dog for the walk and usually you call me when you take your dog for a walk but you didn't call me this time. It's okay this time but don't forget next time, I was worried about you because you didn't call me all day today and I'm really busy with work, I'm focused and I'm in meetings and you didn't check in with me today.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Did you eat today? Yeah, I already ate, but what did you eat? I'm like, I'm in meetings and you didn't check in with me today. Did you eat today? Yeah, I already ate. But what did you eat? I'm like, I'm grown. I lived a whole life before you got here. And you're checking up on me in the ways and the beginning felt caring, but now feel a little bit more impressive. These aren't at the time loud enough red flags
Starting point is 00:39:21 and not for me to stop anything, but they're loud enough for me to pay attention to and just file in the back of the tyrone file of like pros and cons Things that we need to work on but we're getting to know each other and so I'm gonna give them a pass on this I'm gonna give them pass on that As he understands me better. He'll understand that he can't talk to me this certain way, or he'll understand that I don't like it when he says this, or he'll understand how my routine is, and that sometimes I just need the alone time. It gave him way more excuses than I should have, but again, it just felt so good to be cared for, and for someone to check up on me, Monique was giving me space.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I was seeing her maybe like once a week and we're not like dating or doing anything but to hang out and to go to the beach. Because again, this is November 2020. All of California at that point was basically shut down. You couldn't go inside of restaurants at this point. There was nothing to do, There was no place to go. And so this escape with him felt great, but then she would help me escape in real life. And
Starting point is 00:40:32 she knew my drama and she knew the heavy stuff. She came over and hung out with me. It was a really tender moment because I was feeling particularly sad about everything and she laid him a bed with me and it was no big deal. She was under the covers but she's holding me in her arms while I'm crying and I remember telling him and he lost it. And he told me I needed to wash my sheets immediately and I was like, first of all, sir, you don't need to question my house, give me cabbets.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I am quite clean, thank you. I wash my sheets often. I clean my house often. Like, I don't need you to tell me to wash my sheets. But apparently the reason why he was so adamant about this was because he bought a plane ticket and he was flying up to surprise me on Thanksgiving day. He had decided that he was going to do Thanksgiving with his family in the morning.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And then in the afternoon, he was going to hop on a flight, come up to see me for a few days, and then fly back home. He was going to be there for the long weekend. My roommate was at home at the time, and I was like, this is really great. I have company, I can't wait to see him. I'm so excited to see him. This is just another reinforcement that this is such a good idea for me. I went over to Monique Toss, we grilled with some friends.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I grabbed leftovers for him. So I grabbed a bunch of things, I put it together. I am a really good cook. I'm a really good cook. I'm a really good cook. I'm not going to like, be humble about it at all. I'm a really good cook. My friends love my food. At one point, I was flirting, opening a catering company. My grandmother taught me really well, and so it's something I take a lot of pride in. And if I'm giving you food that my friends made, it's probably really good too, because I'm really particular about food that I eat.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I'm my grandmother's granddaughter. So I grabbed some food, and I left this barbecue fire pit, hang out, drinking wine situation. I came home, and I'm waiting for him, and he shows up, and I'm so excited to see him. I'm so excited to see him. I'm so excited to see him. I have not seen him forever. We're only like chit chatting.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I was like, listen, I have the food that I gave for you. I hope you like it. He eats it and he starts choking. And I'm thinking I'm going to have to give the high luck. I can give CPR. I'm that girl, but I don't understand why you're choking. And it turns out he said there was too much pepper In whatever I made now everybody else at the party loved it. They thought it was amazing
Starting point is 00:43:11 This and it tasted great the flavor was wonderful I felt so great about what I mean Then he ate it and he is like it's too spicy. It's to this. It's to that everything that everyone made on That plate was too much for him. It was too much for his palette. Again, people are different. There are people who are super tasteers. So I'm trying to give you all the benefit of the doubt, but it really made me feel a certain type of way, how he approached the situation, and made me feel bad about the food that I made with love and tenderness and care. He opens his suitcase and he whips out
Starting point is 00:43:52 this whole Thanksgiving meal that his mother had made for him. He offers it to me, not a stitch of salt on it, not a stitch of pepper, it was the most bland food I had ever seen. Gordon Ramsay wouldn't like it. He would have thrown it out, he'd have broken plate, it would have been done with. He's eating it and he's enjoying it. So who am I to judge? Enjoy your food. That's how the whole weekend started. On Black Friday, Monique had invited us over to grill and to be by the fire pit. She had all these leftovers and she wanted to meet him and she's a really important person
Starting point is 00:44:34 of my life. Even if we're not dating, she's still going to be someone who's always going to be a close person to me. He understood this. He was like, yeah, let's go. He went and got her her favorite bottle of liquor. We're getting ready to go over and it's my ex's house. I've slept there. I've taken showers. We've dated for like a really long time.
Starting point is 00:44:59 She's seen me without makeup. Anyone in that house has seen me without makeup. They've seen me in my pajamas. They probably have seen me in makeup. Anyone in that house has seen me without makeup. They've seen me in my pajamas. They probably have seen me in less than that, hanging out on the couch, watching TV. That space was a second home to me. It wasn't any type of place that I had to put any airs on. I throw on pair leggings and like a sweatshirt because it's chilly, we're gonna be outside
Starting point is 00:45:24 at the fire pit. and he actually stopped me. Wouldn't call the car and told me that I needed to go put makeup on. I was really surprised by that because I had heard him tell me that I was beautiful without makeup. I have had other people tell me I was beautiful without makeup. So I really didn't understand this need and I actually pushed back a little bit and was like, I mean, I guess if you want me to, but he was like, no, no, this is really important to me. I want to show up a certain way. I couldn't give him an excuse of him being nervous because you show up a certain way.
Starting point is 00:46:02 That has nothing to do with me. I did it though because it was easier to not argue about it than it was for me to be a people pleaser to make it go away, to soothe the angry beast. I just did it. I put it on and we take a lift over there because we're going to be drinking. And the first thing that happens when it walk into the house is everyone's like, why are you wearing makeup? They expect to see me in pajamas, which is what they were wearing like sweatpants and sweatshirts and leggings, comfy clothes and slippers. It was this really awkward start.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I think Monique got really nervous and I, she was drinking a little bit more than she normally does. Monique was really too drunk. I have never seen her this drunk, to be honest. I've seen her drinking, but I've never seen her this drunk. She started to feel uncomfortable. I was feeling like this is getting too much. Let's just leave.
Starting point is 00:46:57 If we leave the situation, it'll resolve itself. We get back to my house. I am from a family that was concerned energy, not because we care about the world, but because the bill was too high. I grew up, like, you don't touch the thermostat, thermostat is set. I'm from the East Coast. Winter goes off for a good nine months. I know Pat has set the temperatures,
Starting point is 00:47:19 so I can budget accordingly for the months. And my temperature wasn't set that high. If you threw on a sweater and a blanket would be just fine He got into my house and he was Beyond upset at the temperature of my apartment. He was beyond upset He's sitting there shivering like he's in the North Pole like he's never been in Northern California in his life when I know that his ex used to live down the street, I pay for the heat.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I don't like to give PG&E my money. And so I keep the temperature where I need it to be. He's pretending that he's so cold and he is like, can't focus on like, we'll put on a sweatshirt. And that's when I realized that he didn't pack any clothes. He packed a couple of pairs of basketball shorts, a couple of t-shirts, one pair of jeans, and a jacket, and one nice shirt. That's not enough for a weekend in northern California in November, going into December. That's not warm enough. We're not going anywhere in
Starting point is 00:48:21 that type of outfit. I was like, you know what? Let me do this. I go, I grab my bedding and I throw it in the dryer. I put it on high and he's sitting there shivering still like a leaf. I'm making hot tea, I'm making hot cocoa. And he was like, I need you to make me a sandwich. When he showed up, I made him this turkey sandwich. And it was just like this basic sandwich that my aunt used to make, almost like a pressed sandwich.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And that was the only thing that he would eat for the rest of the weekend. Anytime I made any type of food for him, anytime of meal, he always wanted the sandwich. Just like midnight, I'm making this sandwich for him. I have the blanket. I don't understand how much more cared for he could have felt. He walks over to my temperature gauge,
Starting point is 00:49:02 turns the temperature on all the way up and says, I will pay for the heat. Okay, whatever, call me chief, I don't care. He turns the heat up and he's sitting there at the boat shaking or whatever. I'm telling him to put pajamas on. I take the blanket out of the dryer. I put it on the bed. I said, come on, hurry, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up.
Starting point is 00:49:20 And he explodes. He explodes and he starts to tell me how dare I speak to him this way. He's a guest in my house and I'm not taking care of guests in a proper way because if I was taking care of guests in a proper way then the heat would be on and how dare I yell at him to hurry up and to get into bed and I'm like I'm so sorry. Maybe I didn't realize my tone, maybe I had an attitude to it. Maybe he's tired because it's so late. Maybe it was just a really long night.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I don't know, but I am so sorry. I am so sorry. I'm apologizing, I'm apologizing. It starts this argument and it just keeps going. I'm trying to calm him down. I'm trying to do everything. I'm doing whatever I need to. And he gets into bed and he's a huffy and he's upset
Starting point is 00:50:08 He's just angry and there's just nothing I can do It felt like this was a person that I Didn't met before this is not the same person who was in so cow with me because I've never seen this level of anger for no reason He ends up calming down. It really upsets me that I'm able to do this or that I have this in my arsenal sometimes, but I'm used to being in abusive situations where being the girliest girl, the sex pot
Starting point is 00:50:40 and being the sex kitten who will soothe the ruffled feathers. So I attempt to be intimate with him. We start having sex. And originally when I was in LA with him, he had asked me if I would feel comfortable if we recorded us having sex. And I was really adamant. No, I am not comfortable with this. This is not something that works for me. I don't want anything of me on your phone. We know each other, but we don't know each other. I don't know your intentions. You can do anything with this.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Revenge porn is a thing. And frankly, honestly, I don't like the way I look on screen naked when I can't control the angle. It's pure vanity for me, but the ultimate answer is no. So we're sitting there in, now, in my bedroom, and we're getting intimate, and we're having sex. I noticed something that didn't read to me as like a red flag until later.
Starting point is 00:51:40 He kept messing with his phone, and he kept touching my pillows and putting his hand between my pillows. It didn't make sense to me. We'd kept doing what we were doing and then we moved on. He was calm from any and he was fine from any. That same week I and he was complaining that his back was hurting and I was like, I have icy hot, he wanted a massage. I don't know what your body is like.
Starting point is 00:52:04 So what do you need? I have a leaf. I have't know what your body is like. So what do you need? I have a leaf. I have Tylenol. What is it that you need? We can get something door dashed. And he starts getting really agitated. He is getting really upset because he says, typically he has his payments with him. And then I was like, what are your pain meds? He said that his pain meds were oxycautin. Now, I have never met anyone who used these type of hard narcotics, but I am from an area on the East Coast where having narcotic use has led to a massive meth epidemic. I am friends with people who are teachers who
Starting point is 00:52:44 have had their students nod off in class, who have OD'd in bathrooms. I am from an area where this is really, really prevalent because of how easy it was at one point to get boxing. I'm super sensitive to this situation. He was super sensitive to my smoking weed because it's legal in California, but he was adamant that it'd never be around him. I found it really interesting that he would take these heavy drugs, but I couldn't take a hit of my
Starting point is 00:53:17 vape pen if I wanted to. So we're talking about this and I'm asking more about this injury because having a Prescription is heavy as a oxy cotton Then you have to have some type of massive back injury You have to have gotten some type of surgery some type of car accident some type of something and I've never heard anything about this And we have talked for hours on end we talk every day multiple times a day We fall asleep on the phone. But you've never told me on the phone any time or a text message or anything that your
Starting point is 00:53:51 back was hurting you. It felt like an odd thing. And I'm being inquisitive. I'm pushing a little bit and he's pushing back and he's getting a little defensive. He ends up telling me that he could take his dose in threes. And once he said that, I knew that it didn't make sense. You can split a pill in half. I have pills that you split in half. But you don't split a pill into threes. Nothing about this made sense to me. He ends up learning out that he doesn't actually swallow the oxycognin because he's snorting it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 So he's snorting hard narcotics. I asked his doctor knew about this because I'm assuming that you get this prescription from a doctor. And I find out that he doesn't have a prescription and that he was agitated this entire weekend so far because he didn't have access to the drugs that his body is used to and he's actually going through withdrawal. And that is why he's so irritated and he's so frustrated and that's why he's having these reactions to the temperature and he's finding it irritating that we're in such close proximity to each other because he can't go into the bathroom and do a line because he's assuming that I'm going to notice that he's continually going to the bathroom and doing lines.
Starting point is 00:55:13 That's when I'm like, you can't do this in my house. I fully support safe drug use, but there's a boundary within my house that this is not something that I'm comfortable with and that's not okay. And of course that leads to another huge angry fight. We're going back and forth for a little while and then again things calm down. Enough to where he wants to extend his trip for an extra day. He's sweet talking to me and he's love bombing me. He's like, I love you so much. You're so perfect. You take all these great care of me. You make sure I'm
Starting point is 00:55:50 fed. You're always cooking for me. And then at the same time, he's misogynistic where my only role was to be in the kitchen and to make sure his stuff was taking care of. He asked me to wash his clothes. The washroom dryer right there, but that's fine. I can wash your clothes. It's my house. No big deal. I'm washing his clothes and he's arguing with me because I'm not according to him doing it the right way. I've been washing my clothes since I was a good,
Starting point is 00:56:14 solid 12 years old by myself. If you wanted to do it, you're a way you should have done it. But again, I'm trying to still be the peacemaker and making sure that everything's okay. So I'm being that happy housewife. He's like, I can totally see that you'd be taking care of our kids in the right way. And I'm like, feeling, oh my God, he would see me as a mom.
Starting point is 00:56:34 This feels so great. I never knew that he wanted to be a mother. I never knew I wanted all of this. And at the same time, it dreamt all of this and this feels so great. It felt good, but at the same time, it didn't feel good and it didn't feel right and something felt off. So he extends his trip. I sent a group message, you know, the group chat.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And Monika was in that group chat and I was like, oh my God, he extended his trip for like another 24 hours. He'll change his flight. This is so great, I'm so excited. And then within the hour, I call her saying, you need to get this guy out of my house. I don't know how to deal with this. That's next time on something was wrong. Thank you so much for listening. Until next time, stay safe friends.
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