Something Was Wrong - S13 E5: [Natalia] Kinda Sorta Yeah
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Hi, I'm Natalia.
I'm originally from the East Coast, but I'm now living in Northern California.
I am a queer black woman who is ultra-femmed presenting, definitely bubbly and out there. I have tattoos which apparently don't match up
with my personality type. I'm a definite mix of different cultures. I have lived a
very long and traumatic life for my very few years that I've been here. And I feel like my lessons I've learned throughout life
had led me to make better choices.
It's led me to becoming the person I am today.
And while I don't like going through experiences,
I definitely believe that who I am today
is someone who I would not change.
So the story starts before the actual story starts and the story starts for me.
I've had really bad decisions and been in really bad places.
And because of that, I have lived with abusive relationships far longer than I should have.
But my grandparents were always the one who pulled me out. My grandparents were
always the ones who made safe home for me. I always knew I could always go home to them. And I would do
that whenever I needed help. And my grandfather was my biggest cheerleader. And my grandmother on my
maternal side was just as strong and just as proud. The end of June, being in July of 2020 in the middle of the pandemic.
Life was pretty great for me actually. It wasn't even that bad. I loved working from home.
I was outside of my bathing suit. I was getting the deepest hand.
And at the same time, my grandmother was fighting cancer, and I had 12 hours to get to the East
Coast before she passed away.
I didn't make it, and it was probably the one most devastating parts of my life as the
fact that I didn't make it home.
I had dealt with a lot, and she had, after I left my ex-Landon, she actually welcomed me
into her home.
I left Landon with whatever I could fit in my car and I drove in the middle of the night.
I showed up with a dog and some clothes and no job and she opened her home and she made
sure I was safe and she made sure I got a job and she took care of my dog and I was working.
My grandfather was the one who gave me money
when I needed it or when landed would kick me out.
I would go to my grandfather's house
because he lived 30 minutes away.
So they were my strongest cheerleaders
and after she died, my grandfather quickly got sick
and so 90 days later, my grandfather also died.
And then within two weeks, my aunt, who was like one of the women who raised me like my
grandmother's sister, she also passed away. So within a hundred days from July to October, I lost probably like the three strongest pillars of strength in my life.
And I was at the lowest I had ever been.
I ended up losing crazy amounts of weight because I stopped eating.
I ended up losing my job.
And because of this, because I was just grieving so deeply and so hard, and so my depression was probably
at the deepest it's ever been in my entire life
because I felt completely empty.
This is important to my story because I had been
through hell and back with Landon.
I had gone to therapy and had gone to a trauma counselor
and I had done all of these things but it didn't matter
because when my life circumstance changed it felt like I almost forgot all the lessons I had learned
and I was so desperate to be happy and so desperate to not be alone and feel so lonely that I forgot everything that my body had already taught me,
what not to do. And so that's why this is the first chapter for me. It's that period of loss that
lowered my defenses. And then I met Tyrone. I'm so so sorry for your losses. I imagine that had to be just such an incredibly sad
and heartbreaking time in your life.
Did you have anybody in your life
that you could lean on
or were you really isolated at that time?
At the same time that my grandmother was literally
like the same day that my grandmother was dying,
my landlord had actually asked me to move out of the house. So I was
moving at the same time. So I was moving into it and a location somewhere where I had more privacy,
which I don't know if it was a good and bad thing at the time because I definitely feel like I
isolated myself. I know that my friends, my really close friends were really worried about me, like very, very worried.
My mom was really worried about me.
She said the way that I described how I felt after my grandmother died was the same way
she felt after my dad had passed away when she was like 29.
And the way I described it, it just made her so nervous for me.
I had the circle of people who were waiting in the wings who would order me food and have
it delivered to my home, but I wouldn't eat it.
I had people with the same time.
You can only try to force someone to talk to you for so long and so hard and so much before
you have to recognize they just needs space to be. I ended up taking off some time because of my mental health was just really,
really bad and devastated.
Around this same time that I had to move that my grandmother had passed away,
I had been dating Monique and Monique and I had been dating for a while.
And we decided that we needed to take a break.
So it was a like perfect storm of just loneliness.
But Monique and I are still really good friends
to this day.
We talk all the time.
We ended up dating again after this whole tyrone issue,
but Monique is someone who even during this whole Tyrone issue was the rock in my life
and she was one of the people who would come in and make sure I left the house or make sure that I was fed.
She was there for this whole story and she definitely lifted me up and held me when like it got really crazy and rocky.
She is definitely someone who was important to this story as well.
So, dentering this period of loneliness and being in a pandemic where you really can't leave
house, there's no bars, there's no going out with my friends to distract me, there's nothing but
being isolated in my apartment with my roommate and mainly my room in my bed because I was just so sad. I
Started downloading dating apps seen the tenders and all of those different apps
But I found this one that was specific to queer people which I was really a huge fan of
It was almost like this little community and they had like the little chat rooms and it felt a little bit different. It was something to distract me from
how sad life was. I didn't expect to meet anyone, but I enjoyed swiping, left and right,
and starting conversations and not really going anywhere with them.
And then this face popped up and it was Tyrone and I thought he was cute. His profile did not use
key hem pronouns. So at the time I met him under a different name and we were exchanging and talking
and going back and forth. It was really nice. It was really easy to talk to him. He thought I was a catfish. I thought
he was a catfish, so I was like, let's face time and he didn't expect any of this. We
face timed and that first night we talked for maybe like 30 minutes to an hour, but the
conversation just flowed and it was so easy to talk to. And it was so great to talk to
someone who didn't know anything about me, who didn great to talk to someone who didn't know anything
about me who didn't know my history who didn't know how sad I was who couldn't
tell you how much weight I lost had no idea six months ago my hair was really
really long but because of all of this I had shaved it off in my bathroom
pandemic style. He didn't know anything about this about me and it felt so great to be someone
who wasn't so sad all the time. And so we went from texting on this dating app to like face timing
regularly pretty quickly. It felt super comfortable. I found that later that even though I put the search to
Northern California around where I live, he actually had changed his location and
he was living in Southern California. It had to be an event to jago meet him. So
face timing worked and texting worked. We would end up pretty quickly being on the
phone all night and falling asleep,
talking to each other and then I would wake up in the morning and he would still be there. His
face time would still be live or the phone would still be there and we had like literally slept
the night next to each other. It was comfortable. My friends saw the change in my disposition.
I was happy.
I felt good.
I felt productive at work again because life wasn't so sad.
It wasn't so gray.
It wasn't so lonely anymore.
I was walking my dog and we were on the phone.
At this time, I still knew him with she with she her pronouns and I still knew him by his
dead name and I said something that was like my girl and he thought I referred to him and just
completely blew up. I have many trans friends I am very active in my local queer community. I am friends with people all over the country,
all over the world, in all different type of spectrums.
And so I've dated people in different spectrums.
Sometimes you can tell that someone's not comfortable
with something and you can kind of lean away from it,
but I never really got the chance with him.
It immediately, it was this big blow up.
I felt so horrible that I had touched nerve,
that I had no idea that I was touching.
And it wasn't even in that specific gendered way,
but it was the way I said it.
I know from my friends how hurtful things like this could be.
So I immediately felt apologetic.
I was immediately sorry.
Then we started talking and I realized
that he had no friends in the queer community.
They think that was part of his way of blending in
and seeming, quote unquote, normal.
He did his best to blend and that's what he needed
to do to survive within his industry.
And I respected it.
And I said, hey, if you have questions,
I can answer as best as I can if you need some guidance
in this, but also I have people in your location
who have been going through the same situation
and who have been going through the surgeries
and the medications and hormones and, you know,
different body image things and I could get you a community if you want. Let me connect you to
my friends. He was so into that idea and I think this is probably the first time in his life that
someone accepted him for who he was at his word without trying to talk about it, without
trying to explain it, especially in something that I've found it eventually that
he didn't even understand himself. He had very little understanding about what
was going through his own body or the proper words and terminology. I would be like,
oh no, no, no, you can say whatever, but let me just explain the definition of what you're saying so you know what you're saying and you don't offend some of the
else.
Refer to yourself in a way that you might not want to be referred to as.
I reached out to my people where he lived and I connected him to some of the people I
called my closest friends and people that could get him in touch with the community.
My friends were getting in contact with him.
Everybody had nothing but great things to say
about their interactions with him.
It's not something I do often.
I'm good at compartmentalizing,
but this is one of the first times that I started
to shake the waters a little bit
and have myself be in a place of uncomfortability
about melding worlds.
He was really interested in finding out about top surgery,
and I got him in touch with a friend who had just had
top surgery in the week's prior and finding doctors
and talking about insurance.
He felt comfortable with me to talk about these situations,
and I felt really great about that.
I felt like I could be like a long-term help.
And it got deeper and deeper from there.
Things moved really, really fast where within a few weeks I'm flying down to SoCal to meet him for the first time.
The first time I met him was at the airport. When he picked me up from baggage clean and I was so nervous,
everything was nerve-wracking, but the minute I met him, I felt comfortable and I got in
the front seat of his car and I was like, hey, how are you? And he was like, hey, nice to meet you.
There are a couple of red flags looking back that I should have done playing in my back home
immediately, but for the most part, that was probably one of the most romantic weekends of my
entire life. It was such a weekend that was so good for my well-being, my mental
health, I came back so energized and great. I flew down there on the Friday evening after
work. We went to Target. I forgot my cell phone charger, but it was right by the hotel
that we were staying at downtown.
There's this really long line. It's the pandemic.
People aren't wearing masks. This is before the vaccination.
This is when people are like, stay inside.
Don't go to the store if you had to.
I had not left my house in weeks at this point.
So this is like really outside of my comfort zone.
I was like, let's just go through this self-checkout line.
It's way faster. It's way
easier and we don't have to be in the store. Let's hurry up and get out of here. I want to go.
And he said to me, I don't work for Target. So I'm not going to check myself out. And I thought
that was the oddest thing to force yourself to stand in a 20-minute line because you don't get paid
by Target to check yourself out of line. But people have
political beliefs as self-checkout. So I wasn't going to push. I met him like an hour ago and I was
about to spend the next 72 hours with him. And then we get to the checkout person and I had my little
cell phone charger and he's like, oh don't worry, I got it, I'll pay for it. Something I found really
interesting is that he assumed that I made less money than he did.
I let him believe that because it's none of his business, but he assumed I couldn't pay for anything.
And so if you offered to pay, I'm like, I can take it, but if you want to, don't let me stop you.
It felt like a show for him. It was like a show of a flash for him, which is something that might impress other people
and other people might feel really great about it,
but I don't need you to pay for my stuff, I got it.
But I mean, if it makes you happy, I'm not gonna stop you.
We get up to the check counter
and he's like paying for everything
and he turns to me and he said,
can you do me a favor and keep track of how much I'm spending?
And I looked at him crazy and I said,
I'm not your bookkeeper, I'm not your bookkeeper.
I'm not your accountant.
And I'm definitely not your secretary.
So no, it felt like at the time,
and I still believe today, is that he wanted me to remember
how much he spends on me.
He would keep track of basically how much I owed him
and how much he was due back in return.
That's not how I live my life normally. When I go out to dinner with my friends, it's like, you know, there's six of us. If I had a salad, we'll just divide it by six.
Like, it'll come out in the wash anyways, especially if you're in some type of relationship.
I thought it was odd and assumed that he was nervous, so we'd kept pushing.
We get back to the hotel and it's this really nice hotel that he booked.
It's downtown LA and it's beautiful. It's a boutique hotel.
I'd miss the warm weather because you know up in Northern Cal it is way colder than LA.
He drove me down to San Diego just to go to lunch.
It was to go to this one restaurant that he had been talking
about and he's like, I have to take you there.
You would love it.
We get down to this restaurant and we're wearing cute outfits
and he's telling me how beautiful I look.
I feel so amazing and I haven't felt amazing in so long
that it feels good to feel good.
We go to this really great black owned restaurant and he's like, what do you want? And I'm not hungry
because I haven't eaten in weeks. I haven't really eaten honestly in months, that's a point.
I don't do full meals. I can pick and like eat something somewhere,
but I'm not eating because life is crappy and I am sad. Nothing tastes good to me because I know
my grandmother could make it better. So I couldn't decide and he's like, you know what? Let's just get
one of everything. In this nonprofit, a taco spot where like $3 tacos are $5 tacos.
We're talking like $25 to $50 a plate here.
And he's ordering like one of every one of all the appetizers,
three meals that we were talking about,
a couple of desserts, some sides.
For two of us, and this kind of fed like a whole family,
it's so much food, and it's so heavy,
and it's so rich, and we're staying in a hotel room. We have no place food and it's so heavy and it's so rich and
we're staying in a hotel room. We have no place to store it. We're not going to heat
it up again. It felt very wasteful to me. This is not how I was raised. I grew up in a working
class family. You didn't throw out food. Everything was recycled. There were so many of us.
All of my cousins were always around. My grandparents and my mother, their immigrants. They came
from a country that people
we consider third world, but it's so rich in history. You didn't have food like that. They came
here for a better life, so you don't throw things out because you don't know when you're going to
get fed again. That's the world that I lived in, and that's the world that I was raised in.
I shut my lights not because I care about thing electricity, but because my grandfather didn't want to waste money because you don't have it. And so it didn't make sense to me to order
all of this food, but he was insistent that it would make me and him happy. We ordered all this food
and it's so expensive and not even finished anything of it, even the things that he wanted the most,
or something that I had a bite of. he'd be like, that's fine.
As long as you ate it and you were happy and I was like, wow, you really just care about
me eating.
You are so focused in making sure that I am taking care of myself when I don't feel like
I can even take care of myself.
It felt so great.
We're having this really great time and we're seeing up having these long conversations,
the leftovers from all these different restaurants or ordering in tacos or we're going to
this little taco spot or we're walking to this fancy steak restaurant and he is like,
whatever you want, let's get two of those.
He's calling a lift for a six minute walk because I don't want you to scuff up your sneakers
because he's got a huge
sneaker head and I had really nice brand new Jordans on and he's like, no, no, no, I don't, I don't
want you to walk, which is way more money that you even need to spend on something that's six minutes
away. But again, it was that flash. This is how people determine that they're cared for and it doesn't
work for me. I didn't care about the money.
I cared about how I felt. I went with it and it felt great.
It was a really good weekend.
At the same time, it really wasn't. It was
something that I should have left and never returned back to because
there were red flags
him telling me what to wear.
But I thought he was telling me because I wasn't matching
the aesthetic of the place that we're going to.
I was too overdressed or not dressed up enough.
I went with it, but he was making sure I had makeup on.
I remember being in the shower and looking over
and he's looking through the crack of
the door and he has his phone up. The hair on my back of my neck kind of stood but it was a few red
flags but not enough to like put my finger on. The last day I was there we ordered in brunch
We ordered in brunch a $150 worth of food for two people, for breakfast.
We're eating in the hotel room. We're talking about life and past relationships. I don't know
what he said. That made me pause and ask this question, but I remember something in two of the least said, you need to ask. This is a question I've never asked anybody honestly before.
I said, does anyone have a restraining order against you? And he
chuckled and laughed, and he's like, well, kind of sort sorta yeah.
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I was like, what do you mean kind of sort of yeah? Like how does that work explain this to me?
He started explaining the story to me of how he and this girl had lived with each other.
She lived in Northern Cal, actually, which is really funny,
not far from me where I lived at the time when he knew me.
He was going back and forth that the flight attendants knew who he was
because he was doing regular commuter trips from SoCal to North Cal
and coming home on the weekends to stay with her and then
flying on Mondays to go to work. She had been a leasing agent for an
apartment building complex and there's this little known clause in your lease
that if you feel unsafe or if you had to get a restraining order against
someone either within the building or in your apartment itself,
a partner spouse roommate or whatever the situation is, that if you had to get a restraining order that it gives you the option to break
lease without a penalty. And so he said that she had filed the restraining order to be able to break the lease and find a new
apartment someplace else. That struck me as so odd because I feel like there's so many other
things that you could have done, situations that you could have come up with, especially if that's
your job as a leasing agent to come up with another blue poll, but I was letting him tell me the story.
So while she had the restraining order against him,
they were dating back and forth
and then they had some random fight
that she supposedly started and he went out
and took the trash and when he went out
and took the trash, she had called the police
and locked the door behind him
and because of the restraining order,
he had got arrested.
And it was this really convoluted story, and it was really weird.
And the way he described it didn't make sense to me.
It had been through an abusive relationship, and it sounded really toxic at minimum.
We're going back and forth, and we're talking about this toxic relationship that he was in. I start bringing up my toxic relationship with Landon
Things that I had to do to survive when I left him. I
Turned to Tyrone and I was really clear. I said damn. I'm letting you know right now
This is the thing I had to do to survive. This will not be the type of relationship
I go into again. And he's like I would never I have my brother. I
Talked to him about the way that he talks to my mother. I talked to him. I'm a brother. He talks to my sisters
I see how men treat women and I do not want any woman to feel
Disrespected and I was like right, well, maybe we're young
and we're dumb and we do stupid things
and we get in stupid toxic relationships.
And maybe it was just like a bad period in his life.
I'm probably not getting the full story
because literally we just met.
But at the same time, this is something
I need to pay attention to.
I'm thinking this in my head and he turns to me after I
explained to him about how I'm not going to do this again and he says to me,
now just so you know, my ID still has the female gender marker. So if something were to happen,
So if something were to happen, the cops just think that it's two girls fighting. When he said that to me, I was completely freaked out.
And I knew in my heart of heart that if I told anyone they would tell me to run, but it
felt so good to be in that situation and to feel so seen and to feel so cared for
that I didn't tell anyone.
I didn't forget it, but I didn't tell anyone.
I think not telling anyone in that particular comment is the turning point for me.
Looking back now, that's the moment that I know
I should have like walked away and never came back.
I wanted to feel great.
So I stayed.
I said, okay, and I went into people, please remote.
Ignoring it.
I'm gonna be different.
I'm not like her.
I don't know why, because I'd lived this life before.
I have already done this before but I had forgotten who I was. And that seemed weekend.
He had this woman who was his best friend and she was calling all the time and they were
feast timing and she was saying hi but it gets weirder later. So we go to the airport and we have this
dramatic goodbye where we're driving to the airport in this rental car and he's like holding my
hand. He's crying and I'm crying, and when am I gonna see you again?
And like tomorrow is already too long.
This like rom-com moment, or crying, and I kiss him, go buy him a car, and I roll my
carry on into the airport, and I'm sobbing as I'm going up the escalator.
Then I look over, and he is standing outside the car and he's crying and he's like watching
me go until he can't see me anymore. And the woman behind me starts crying because she's like,
oh my god, this is the most romantic thing I've ever seen. And her husband's completely mortified,
but it was like a movie the entire weekend was like a movie. I get past security and we're on the phone again
and we're talking until the flight takes off.
I land by my house and I'm calling my friends.
Everyone wants to know, so how was it?
Hear from you all weekend.
Monique calls me and we're being really good friends.
Like friendly platonic life partner in type of situation.
She's like, so how was it?
And I was like, it was really good.
And I started telling her about everything that's going on.
And she's like, so like the sex.
Like, how was the sex?
And I was like, actually, that was the weird part.
Like, we didn't have sex that much.
She's like, the we that you guys were talking, the energy that was over the phone,
like I fully expected to be this crazy intimate weekend.
We didn't do that.
He spent the whole weekend making sure I was fed
and making sure I was cared for,
making sure that all this other stuff was happening.
I also chalked it up too.
Maybe he's just not comfortable.
Maybe this is his body, this Morphea,
that he's not comfortable taking off his clothes
or he's not comfortable being intimate
and that's just not where he is.
I can work with somebody like that.
We can come up with things that work for him
where he feels comfortable, where I feel comfortable.
I'm not gonna push you to do something
that you don't feel comfortable with.
I have always been in polyamorous relationship, but I understand
that's not for everybody. So I was really clear about who I am and what I do and
who I do it with. He was not on that page in the beginning and we would have
hour-long conversations about feelings. He was like, I would feel really more
comfortable if you were dating anybody else at the time and I was like, all right,
cool, that works for me. We can reassess later. Is that work for you? He's like, I would feel really more comfortable if you weren't dating anybody else at the time. And I was like, all right, cool. That works for me. We can reassess later. Is that work for you?
He's like, great. That works for me too. Then as time progressed, all of a sudden things started
changing, but they were changing without him telling me. So that woman who he was talking to,
who I thought he was his best friend, and that he had known for a while, all of a sudden, I stopped hearing about her and then he was telling me that he was going out with
his friends and I'm like, go have fun and enjoy, I'll talk to you later. And then it became within
days of that, he also was like, you know what, let's not be exclusive. And I was like, I'm also
comfortable with that too. I wasn't trying to pin myself down, but this is where the
story starts to get a very like a little lifetimey for me. We're having these really deep conversations
about commitment, but at the same time, we're also having these conversations about us and what that looks like. We're dealing with long-term plans.
We're discussing renting a house for like a couple of months
because we're both working from home.
He's like, let's work together.
Let's like be together.
I'm like, yeah, that would be great.
I could work from home anywhere.
Everyone else is doing it.
Everyone's buying RVs.
Let's do something crazy.
He is looking into different type of rentals
and different
coastal cities. I'm talking to my boss to see what that would look like at the same time.
He's trying to pick an insurance that would work well with getting top surgery. We're
looking at all of his different plans together. It's really expensive to have this type of
surgery. So we were trying to find
the best insurance plan that would cover the most modern medical stuff for him. He was
also going to need someone to take care of him. He didn't have friends who understood
his transness. He didn't have family that understood his transness. He didn't even understand
his transness and his gender identity and his
exploration. He didn't have a support system to support his transition. And I know from my friends,
I've witnessed, I see how the community supports each other. I've seen groups of friends form
healing support systems where people are bringing meals, people are coming over and doing chores,
people are helping take people to doctors appointments, all of these different things, and I could not as a
queer person watch someone who is trans go through this alone as a human being that's just so hard to
witness. I made myself available. I said, how can I help you? We start talking about
insurances and it really came down to the insurance that I had at the time was
actually the best plan for people who were trans who want to get some type of
surgery because my plan covered the most with the least amount of deductible.
And then he starts loading the idea,
maybe we should live together up where I live
and see maybe he can get surgery up here.
Maybe he can get a better deal up in Northern California
because they seem to have a larger network.
I was like, you're not going to be on my insurance
because there's nothing connecting you to me.
You living with me doesn't mean anything to the insurance company if they don't care.
And so we start talking about, hey, I think this is going to be long term and he's like,
I think this is going to be long term too. So let's start talking about getting married and going
to like the local court getting aloved and having no one know about it,
being our little secret,
then you could get covered under insurance
to get your surgery.
And then we can be married from afar
and do this untraditional lifestyle for a little bit
until we can come together and do this long term thing.
And so we start talking like,
all right, well, if we're gonna do this,
we have to have these big conversations
that we're talking about children, we're talking about how we see talking like, all right, well, if we're going to do this, we have to have these big conversations. So we're talking about children, we're talking about how we see our life.
We're talking about the big things that you need to talk about in order to combine lives and be comfortable.
We're looking at engagement rings, which is insane because after Landon said,
I will never be legally tied to anyone in the world ever again.
And now I'm he's sitting there explaining to this guy what my favorite ring would look
like. My friends are so happy for me because they are like she is making these wildly in
love life choices. You hear them all the time. I met them on the first date and I just
knew that they were the one. And I was like, I can do this.
I can be this person for this person because this is who I am.
This is what I do.
I love with everything that I have.
So we're having these really heavy discussions.
And I only met in one time.
We're face timing.
We're having all of these really heavy live conversations.
And we're agreeing. And we're on the same page.
We're talking about adoption instead of me giving birth because giving birth in a hospital scares me so much.
And we're talking about adoption instead and he was a foster kid.
So that was super important to him.
If I'm going to have a child, I want to be a stay at home mom.
And he was like, I totally understand. I'm on the same beach with you.
What can we do to make it happen?
This is what the five-year plan needs to be for me
because in five years, I'll be at this salary
and then you can do X, Y, and Z.
These are the conversations that we were having.
And then we're also having red flags go off
at the same time.
It's like, you took the dog for the walk
and usually you call me when you take your dog for a walk
but you didn't call me this time.
It's okay this time but don't forget next time,
I was worried about you
because you didn't call me all day today
and I'm really busy with work, I'm focused
and I'm in meetings and you didn't check in with me today.
Did you eat today?
Yeah, I already ate, but what did you eat? I'm like, I'm in meetings and you didn't check in with me today. Did you eat today? Yeah, I already ate. But what did you eat?
I'm like, I'm grown.
I lived a whole life before you got here.
And you're checking up on me in the ways
and the beginning felt caring,
but now feel a little bit more impressive.
These aren't at the time loud enough red flags
and not for me to stop anything,
but they're loud enough for me to pay attention to and just file in the back of the tyrone file of like pros and cons
Things that we need to work on but we're getting to know each other and so I'm gonna give them a pass on this
I'm gonna give them pass on that
As he understands me better. He'll understand that he can't talk to me this certain way, or he'll understand that I don't like it when he says this, or he'll understand how my routine is,
and that sometimes I just need the alone time. It gave him way more excuses than I should have,
but again, it just felt so good to be cared for, and for someone to check up on me, Monique was
giving me space.
I was seeing her maybe like once a week
and we're not like dating or doing anything
but to hang out and to go to the beach.
Because again, this is November 2020.
All of California at that point was basically shut down.
You couldn't go inside of restaurants at this point.
There was nothing to do, There was no place to go.
And so this escape with him felt great, but then she would help me escape in real life. And
she knew my drama and she knew the heavy stuff.
She came over and hung out with me. It was a really
tender moment because I was feeling particularly sad about
everything and she laid him a bed with me and it was no big deal. She was under the covers but she's
holding me in her arms while I'm crying and I remember telling him and he lost it.
And he told me I needed to wash my sheets immediately and I was like, first
of all, sir,
you don't need to question my house, give me cabbets.
I am quite clean, thank you.
I wash my sheets often.
I clean my house often.
Like, I don't need you to tell me to wash my sheets.
But apparently the reason why he was so adamant about this
was because he bought a plane ticket
and he was flying up to surprise me on Thanksgiving day.
He had decided that he was going to do Thanksgiving with his family in the morning.
And then in the afternoon, he was going to hop on a flight, come up to see me for a few days,
and then fly back home. He was going to be there for the long weekend.
My roommate was at home at the time, and I was like, this is really great.
I have company, I can't wait to see him.
I'm so excited to see him.
This is just another reinforcement
that this is such a good idea for me.
I went over to Monique Toss, we grilled with some friends.
I grabbed leftovers for him.
So I grabbed a bunch of things, I put it together.
I am a really good cook.
I'm a really good cook. I'm a really
good cook. I'm not going to like, be humble about it at all. I'm a really good cook. My friends
love my food. At one point, I was flirting, opening a catering company. My grandmother
taught me really well, and so it's something I take a lot of pride in. And if I'm giving
you food that my friends made, it's probably really good too, because I'm really particular about food that I eat.
I'm my grandmother's granddaughter.
So I grabbed some food, and I left this barbecue fire pit,
hang out, drinking wine situation.
I came home, and I'm waiting for him, and he shows up,
and I'm so excited to see him.
I'm so excited to see him. I'm so excited to see him.
I have not seen him forever.
We're only like chit chatting.
I was like, listen, I have the food that I gave for you.
I hope you like it.
He eats it and he starts choking.
And I'm thinking I'm going to have to give the high luck.
I can give CPR.
I'm that girl, but I don't understand why you're choking.
And it turns out he said there was too much pepper
In whatever I made now everybody else at the party loved it. They thought it was amazing
This and it tasted great the flavor was wonderful
I felt so great about what I mean
Then he ate it and he is like it's too spicy. It's to this. It's to that everything that everyone made on
That plate was too much for him. It was too much for his palette.
Again, people are different. There are people who are super tasteers. So I'm trying to give you all the benefit of the doubt,
but it really made me feel a certain type of way, how he approached the situation, and made me feel bad about the food that I made
with love and tenderness and care.
He opens his suitcase and he whips out
this whole Thanksgiving meal that his mother had made for him.
He offers it to me, not a stitch of salt on it,
not a stitch of pepper, it was the most bland food
I had ever seen.
Gordon Ramsay wouldn't like it. He would have thrown it out, he'd have broken plate, it would have
been done with. He's eating it and he's enjoying it. So who am I to judge? Enjoy your food. That's how the
whole weekend started. On Black Friday, Monique had invited us over to grill and to be by the fire pit.
She had all these leftovers and she wanted to meet him and she's a really important person
of my life.
Even if we're not dating, she's still going to be someone who's always going to be a
close person to me.
He understood this.
He was like, yeah, let's go.
He went and got her her favorite bottle of liquor.
We're getting ready to go over and it's my ex's house.
I've slept there. I've taken showers. We've dated for like a really long time.
She's seen me without makeup. Anyone in that house has seen me without makeup.
They've seen me in my pajamas. They probably have seen me in makeup. Anyone in that house has seen me without makeup. They've seen me in my pajamas.
They probably have seen me in less than that,
hanging out on the couch, watching TV.
That space was a second home to me.
It wasn't any type of place that I had to put any airs on.
I throw on pair leggings and like a sweatshirt
because it's chilly, we're gonna be outside
at the fire pit. and he actually stopped me.
Wouldn't call the car and told me that I needed to go put makeup on. I was really surprised by that
because I had heard him tell me that I was beautiful without makeup. I have had other people tell me I was beautiful without makeup.
So I really didn't understand this need and I actually pushed back a little bit and was
like, I mean, I guess if you want me to, but he was like, no, no, this is really important
to me.
I want to show up a certain way.
I couldn't give him an excuse of him being nervous because you show up a certain way.
That has nothing to do with me. I did it though because it was easier to not argue about it than it was for me to be a
people pleaser to make it go away, to soothe the angry beast. I just did it.
I put it on and we take a lift over there because we're going to be drinking.
And the first thing that happens when it walk into the house is everyone's like, why are
you wearing makeup?
They expect to see me in pajamas, which is what they were wearing like sweatpants and sweatshirts
and leggings, comfy clothes and slippers.
It was this really awkward start.
I think Monique got really nervous and I, she was drinking a little bit more than she normally
does.
Monique was really too drunk.
I have never seen her this drunk, to be honest.
I've seen her drinking, but I've never seen her this drunk.
She started to feel uncomfortable.
I was feeling like this is getting too much.
Let's just leave.
If we leave the situation, it'll resolve itself.
We get back to my house.
I am from a family that was concerned energy,
not because we care about the world,
but because the bill was too high.
I grew up, like, you don't touch the thermostat, thermostat is set.
I'm from the East Coast. Winter goes off for a good nine months.
I know Pat has set the temperatures,
so I can budget accordingly for the months.
And my temperature wasn't set that high.
If you threw on a sweater and a blanket would be just fine
He got into my house and he was
Beyond upset at the temperature of my apartment. He was beyond upset
He's sitting there shivering like he's in the North Pole like he's never been in
Northern California in his life when I know that his ex used to live down the street,
I pay for the heat.
I don't like to give PG&E my money.
And so I keep the temperature where I need it to be.
He's pretending that he's so cold and he is like,
can't focus on like, we'll put on a sweatshirt.
And that's when I realized that he didn't pack any clothes.
He packed a couple of pairs of basketball shorts, a couple of t-shirts,
one pair of jeans, and a jacket, and one nice shirt. That's not enough for a weekend in northern
California in November, going into December. That's not warm enough. We're not going anywhere in
that type of outfit. I was like, you know what? Let me do this.
I go, I grab my bedding and I throw it in the dryer.
I put it on high and he's sitting there shivering still like a leaf.
I'm making hot tea, I'm making hot cocoa.
And he was like, I need you to make me a sandwich.
When he showed up, I made him this turkey sandwich.
And it was just like this basic sandwich that my aunt used to make,
almost like a pressed sandwich.
And that was the only thing that he would eat
for the rest of the weekend.
Anytime I made any type of food for him,
anytime of meal, he always wanted the sandwich.
Just like midnight, I'm making this sandwich for him.
I have the blanket.
I don't understand how much more cared for he could have felt.
He walks over to my temperature gauge,
turns the temperature on all the way up and says,
I will pay for the heat.
Okay, whatever, call me chief, I don't care.
He turns the heat up and he's sitting there at the boat shaking or whatever.
I'm telling him to put pajamas on.
I take the blanket out of the dryer.
I put it on the bed.
I said, come on, hurry, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up.
And he explodes.
He explodes and he starts to tell me how dare I speak to him this way.
He's a guest in my house and I'm not taking care of guests in a proper way because if I was taking
care of guests in a proper way then the heat would be on and how dare I yell at him to hurry up
and to get into bed and I'm like I'm so sorry. Maybe I didn't realize my tone,
maybe I had an attitude to it.
Maybe he's tired because it's so late.
Maybe it was just a really long night.
I don't know, but I am so sorry.
I am so sorry.
I'm apologizing, I'm apologizing.
It starts this argument and it just keeps going.
I'm trying to calm him down.
I'm trying to do everything.
I'm doing whatever I need to.
And he gets into bed and he's a huffy and he's upset
He's just angry and there's just nothing I can do
It felt like this was a person that I
Didn't met before this is not the same person who was in so cow with me because I've never seen this level of anger for no reason
He ends up calming down.
It really upsets me that I'm able to do this
or that I have this in my arsenal sometimes,
but I'm used to being in abusive situations
where being the girliest girl, the sex pot
and being the sex kitten who will soothe the ruffled feathers. So I attempt to be intimate
with him. We start having sex. And originally when I was in LA with him, he had asked me if I would
feel comfortable if we recorded us having sex. And I was really adamant. No, I am not comfortable with this.
This is not something that works for me.
I don't want anything of me on your phone.
We know each other, but we don't know each other.
I don't know your intentions.
You can do anything with this.
Revenge porn is a thing.
And frankly, honestly, I don't like the way
I look on screen naked when I can't control the angle.
It's pure vanity for me, but the ultimate answer is no.
So we're sitting there in, now, in my bedroom,
and we're getting intimate, and we're having sex.
I noticed something that didn't read to me
as like a red flag until later.
He kept messing with his phone, and he kept touching my pillows and putting his hand
between my pillows.
It didn't make sense to me.
We'd kept doing what we were doing and then we moved on.
He was calm from any and he was fine from any.
That same week I and he was complaining that his back was hurting and I was like, I have
icy hot, he wanted a massage.
I don't know what your body is like.
So what do you need? I have a leaf. I have't know what your body is like. So what do you need?
I have a leaf. I have Tylenol. What is it that you need? We can get something door dashed.
And he starts getting really agitated. He is getting really upset because he says,
typically he has his payments with him. And then I was like, what are your pain meds? He said that his pain meds were oxycautin.
Now, I have never met anyone who used these type of hard
narcotics, but I am from an area on the East Coast where
having narcotic use has led to a massive meth epidemic.
I am friends with people who are teachers who
have had their students nod off in class,
who have OD'd in bathrooms.
I am from an area where this is really, really prevalent
because of how easy it was at one point to get boxing.
I'm super sensitive to this situation.
He was super sensitive to my smoking weed because it's legal in
California, but he was adamant that it'd never be around him. I found it really
interesting that he would take these heavy drugs, but I couldn't take a hit of my
vape pen if I wanted to. So we're talking about this and I'm asking more about
this injury because having a
Prescription is heavy as a oxy cotton
Then you have to have some type of massive back injury
You have to have gotten some type of surgery some type of car accident some type of something and I've never heard anything about this
And we have talked for hours on end we talk every day multiple times a day
We fall asleep on
the phone. But you've never told me on the phone any time or a text message or anything that your
back was hurting you. It felt like an odd thing. And I'm being inquisitive. I'm pushing a little bit
and he's pushing back and he's getting a little defensive. He ends up telling me that he could take his dose in threes.
And once he said that, I knew that it didn't make sense.
You can split a pill in half.
I have pills that you split in half.
But you don't split a pill into threes.
Nothing about this made sense to me.
He ends up learning out that he doesn't actually swallow the oxycognin because he's snorting it.
So he's snorting hard narcotics.
I asked his doctor knew about this because I'm assuming that you get this prescription from a doctor.
And I find out that he doesn't have a prescription and that he was agitated this entire weekend so far
because he didn't have access to the drugs that his
body is used to and he's actually going through withdrawal. And that is why he's so irritated and he's
so frustrated and that's why he's having these reactions to the temperature and he's finding it
irritating that we're in such close proximity to each other because he can't go into the bathroom and do a line
because he's assuming that I'm going to notice that he's continually going to the bathroom and doing lines.
That's when I'm like, you can't do this in my house. I fully support safe drug use,
but there's a boundary within my house that this is not something that I'm comfortable with and
that's not okay.
And of course that leads to another huge angry fight.
We're going back and forth for a little while and then again things calm down.
Enough to where he wants to extend his trip for an extra day.
He's sweet talking to me and he's love bombing me. He's like, I love
you so much. You're so perfect. You take all these great care of me. You make sure I'm
fed. You're always cooking for me. And then at the same time, he's misogynistic where my
only role was to be in the kitchen and to make sure his stuff was taking care of. He asked
me to wash his clothes. The washroom dryer right there, but that's fine. I can wash your
clothes. It's my house.
No big deal.
I'm washing his clothes and he's arguing with me
because I'm not according to him doing it the right way.
I've been washing my clothes since I was a good,
solid 12 years old by myself.
If you wanted to do it,
you're a way you should have done it.
But again, I'm trying to still be the peacemaker
and making sure that everything's okay.
So I'm being that happy housewife.
He's like, I can totally see that you'd be taking care of our kids in the right way.
And I'm like, feeling, oh my God, he would see me as a mom.
This feels so great.
I never knew that he wanted to be a mother.
I never knew I wanted all of this.
And at the same time, it dreamt all of this and this feels so great.
It felt good, but at the same time, it didn't feel good
and it didn't feel right and something felt off.
So he extends his trip.
I sent a group message, you know, the group chat.
And Monika was in that group chat and I was like,
oh my God, he extended his trip for like another 24 hours.
He'll change his flight.
This is so great, I'm so excited.
And then within the hour, I call her saying,
you need to get this guy out of my house. I don't know how to deal with this.
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