Son of a Boy Dad - Rufus Home Video | Son of a Boy Dad #252
Episode Date: November 19, 2024Rufus Home Video | Son of a Boy Dad #252 -- Harry, Adam and Francis chat a little, argue a bit, etc. -- #Ad: Go check out https://mymobilex.com or download the MobileX app from the App Store or Goog...le Play. -- #Ad: Download the Gametime app today and use code BOYDAD to easily score great deals with the new Gametime Picks! -- Follow us on our socials: https://linktr.ee/sonofaboydad - pls & thx -- Merch: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/son-of-a-boy-dad -- SUBSCRIBE TO THE YOUTUBE #SonOfABoyDad #BarstoolSportsYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/sonofaboydad
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Son of a Boy Dad podcast. Today it is November 18th, 1 p.m. You're here live from HQ3.
Happy to be here, fellas. How are we doing? Just buffing up on the gospel that I missed this weekend.
You missed this week?
I was in transit.
Oh, I forgot you were in France.
Yes.
France.
Paris. Paris. I forgot you were in France. Yes from Paris very awesome
Gay ass Paris. Yeah getting your masters. Yes, how'd it go? It's fucking beautiful easy
It's so nice masters is so easy. Where's that watch Francis?
Audemars Piguet you got an auto
Don't change the subject. Yeah, I'm in France. You're you have a fucking French watch
Audemars that's losing time
Jay-z said the s there you don't pronounce the s all the more P. Sure
How do you say Audemars Piguet?
Piguet mm-hmm so fucking gay familiar. Look at that watch. That's literally what rappers rap about I
Have had this a long time.
What's that one?
Rappers just start talking about.
Nearly enough rappers are rapping about the Fitbit.
Yeah.
Series six, I believe.
That Fitbit.
I don't count my steps with this watch.
I can tell you that much.
I'm all about health these days.
I know I've gotten enough.
All about health. Health is wealth. I walked to get lunch today. I'm all about health these days. I know I've gotten enough. All about health.
Health is wealth.
I just walked to get lunch today.
I walked a long way.
I walked to Eataly to eat the prime roast prime rib sandwich.
Very nice.
How was it?
I learned that walking to lunch works up your appetite,
which is nice.
Yeah.
And I felt much happier and more excited to eat the sandwich once I returned to the office.
Definitely.
And I know that this is true because our dog, Kojai,
is dying of bone cancer.
I don't know how much time he's got.
Yeah.
And he often refuses to eat his meals.
Unless he walks.
And then if you walk him, which you would think he probably
wouldn't be up for, but if you give him a good long walk,
after that, he'll come in and he'll eat.
Very nice.
All by himself.
So I took the same lesson from this noble warrior,
our beloved Kodjie.
Beloved Kodjie to Kodjie.
Yeah.
Raise a glass.
What a fine pup he's been.
Variety coffee.
I've been noticing so much about both of you.
Sass, I've noticed that you look skinny as hell today.
Really?
I think you might have lost weight.
Gaunt.
Probably.
Doesn't he look a little bit gaunt?
I don't like it.
You look gaunt.
You look gaunt.
You look sunken.
I saw you on the street, like, of New York, and you look like skinny.
You look like 2019 Sass.
Maybe it's the concoction of pills that I'm putting in my body every day.
Appetite suppressants? I'm putting in my body every day
I'm up to a lot of I mean
You know my name at the pharmacy now when I have to fill out forms I have to go early to doctors appointments to fill out the actual forms
Well, I have any prescription drugs on all of a sudden
Oh because they asked you prescriptions beforehand and you have to fucking write a full dossier
Dude, I leave CVS with a paper duffel bag
Rattling around listen to my bring reusable totes
Maracas you stealing Mentos in there
Damn like kookarachas playing I keep that shit on me at all times.
Oh my god, bro.
Bro, can you share a little bit?
No, I need everything for myself.
Hey, bear.
Well, they changed my Zoloft prescription three times, so I just have like an insane amount of Zoloft.
It's such a shame that Zoloft isn't recreationally nice.
I just started a new drug. I'm excited about it.
I started a new one too.
Wellbutrin. Oh I'm familiar. You know it? I'm familiar. Well we spoke about it. We did that
one a lot of people like. Yeah this one is a slight derivative of Wellbutrin it has some kind
of added molecule because I guess Wellbutrin is so common under so many different brands or something
that like you often get prescribed it and it will be made a little bit differently. Yeah. Isn't it crazy that there's like
for others generic brands of the drugs that you want and then you'll get the
CVS brand and it's Basura, it's trash. Yeah I mean even Zoloft it's not it's
Sertrillion. Sertrillion? Yeah it's not doesn't say Zoloft. Interesting. So what's
Wellbutrin? Slightly more wealthy than his younger brother, Sir Billion.
Talk about your well butchering,
because I got a, let me just say I got a little bit
of a heavier hitter than you got.
You're up on your, you're gonna big dick my prescription?
I'm about to big dick your prescription.
Is it anti-D?
Damn, dude.
Well here's the thing.
What's well butchering do?
Did you have to show your license for yours? No.
What classic drug is it?
But I have to do that when I get
Sudafed I think.
That is true. That's only because you can make meth with it.
Right.
So what is Wellbutrin? I'm going to look it up right now.
I don't know a whole lot about it.
I mean it's a pretty, it's a very
common antidepressant,
anti-anxiety medication.
And it can help people quit smoking, it says.
Yes, it can. I've heard that as well.
And it helps against seasonal affective disorder, which is called SAS.
That's just depression.
I spoke to SAS. I called SAS because he's my pharmacist in some ways. And I said...
Well, terrible timing, though.
Yeah, you and I really... Like women sinking their periods. We both decided to let our minds malfunction
No, we literally had a conversation the other day where I was like, dude
I want to cancel the rest of my tour dates for the year, but I'm not anymore
I had a good weekend, but this was like last week
Yeah, and then I was like, but I literally can't because you just did
And I was like and then it's gonna look like we like something terrible happened to both of us where we both had to be
Like we got to take the rest of the year off
Yeah, you like you guys there's like you guys got touched
Yeah, you saw something terrible together
Can't face it anymore guys molested both. Yeah, and we're still recovering from it.
Comedy green room's not what I thought they were.
They're not the safe space they once were.
I called Sass about Wellbutrin.
You called me about Zoloft.
Is that what I called you about?
Yeah, it was.
Did we talk about Wellbutrin then?
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you knew about it.
Yeah, I know a bunch of people that take it.
Oh, okay.
Like, I think my entire family.
Today is my first day.
I started today.
Well, it takes like a couple weeks for it to take, right?
I think so.
That's what they say.
I felt it.
I felt my Zoloft within like the first week.
So no, nothing to report on it.
No, I mean, in general, I feel pretty good today.
You look good.
I had a big day yesterday that these things
happen to me every once in a while
where I wandered into a store and spent a lot of money.
And then I felt sick to my stomach and guilty.
Every once in a while, he says in his fucking arm-ar
and his Chelsea Mood.
More lately.
New jeans?
New jeans.
Look, I had a better outfit on.
I wore a new sweater.
I wore my big Hermes coat.
I had a sick ensemble.
And I went to get that roast beef sandwich.
And it was so warm out that I was deeply uncomfortable
walking back and sweating as I ate my food.
And I thought to myself, I'm not going to be the guy
who sweats while he's eating a roast beef sandwich.
So what, did you buy a new outfit?
Like 90% of our coworkers who have to take bites more slowly
because they can't breathe out of their nose
while they're eating.
Get out of breath while you're eating.
Just wheezing through meals.
That's the mating call of the Chicago office.
It is.
Wheezing through a roast beef.
Just fucking chopping up uncrustables
with their Delta Reserve card.
They don't have Delta Reserve.
No, they certainly don't.
They don't have that card. Well, so certainly don't. They don't have that card.
Well, so wait.
So I don't know what to talk about first.
The new jeans, which have to be that $600 jeans, I'm pretty sure?
$5.
No.
$500.
$500.
$500.
These are $500.
I went to a store called VenSpace in Brooklyn.
I literally don't even know.
I guess now I know VenSpace.
I was going to say, I don't even know where I could acquire $500 jeans oh they the first pair of pants they put
me in were $12.50 and I said no way Jose his name was Jose and I I took them off
they were by this company called Jill Sander. You ever heard of this? It's all Jap, Japan.
In fact.
Whoa.
The.
It's all Japs?
You can't say that.
I didn't say it.
Yeah, you did.
I was gonna say Japanese.
That's like the N word.
And then I decided to.
You can't say that.
We have to keep it in just for accountability.
Yeah.
That's fine.
I don't think I actually meant to say Jap there.
Well, you did.
Then you just said it again.
And it's bullshit that it's just like half the word.
Well, what I was trying to do is I was I was trying to say it's all Japanese.
And then I stopped and said it's all Japan because the price tag was in yen.
Oh really?
And I said, do I have to convert that?
And they said, oh, well don't even pay attention to that
because they charge us a markup anyway.
And that's what sparked the idea for me to fly to Japan.
And get some salvage denim.
And purchase a bunch of clothes.
I'm thinking I'm gonna bring an entire suitcase,
an empty suitcase, check it, and then arrive and fill it and bring it home.
So are those Japanese denim?
Yeah.
Are you gonna keep them in the freezer?
They're all, they're made in Japan.
Are you gonna put them in the freezer?
No.
You're supposed to.
I won't.
That's what Josh Ademayers told me.
I'll never wash them.
He said that he has, he puts his Japanese denim in the freezer. That's how you wash
them.
Well you, yeah, you sprinkle baking soda on the inside and roll them up with rubber bands
and put them in the freezer.
But I'm not that guy.
No? You are.
No, no. You are that guy.
I'm gonna take him,
I'm gonna take him to Japan
and get them to do them over there.
I'm gonna find the one guy.
I wonder if they can tell the Jap, Jap, Japanese.
Jap, Jap, Japanese?
Another person told me I should wear them in the bathtub.
Take a bath with them on.
An ice bath.
No. Hot bath.
And no soap or anything,
but then they'll sort of mold to your legs a little better.
Oh, interesting.
But not these though. These...
Look, I'm trying to dress more in this clunky, chunky way.
Baggier, baggier. That's what the teens are doing these days. That's what I'm trying to dress more in this clunky, chunky way. Baggier, baggier.
That's what the teens are doing these days.
That's what I'm into right now.
I'm trying to find a new me.
By the way, I know this is all posing.
I don't know fashion.
I had to go into that store and tell the guy,
teach me, walk me to the promis.
And then he was like,
oh, we got a fucking big fish on the line.
Give him the $1,800 pants.
That's definitely what happened.
It was so much worse than that, by the by the way yeah he started me in those and they
were ridiculous the leg was this wide like a trunk of a tree they were just
they made my feet look small and we created a huge stack of clothes. The guy's name was Axel.
Shout out Axel.
Like the lead singer of Guns N' Roses or the...
Part of the truck?
Device that holds the wheels or whatever.
And he...
Axel Foley in Beverly Hills Cop?
Are there more?
Axel.
Brian Axelrod? Yeah, now we're fudging. We're stretching. It's a stretch.
So, created a huge stack of clothes, we brought them to the register, rang it up, and then
I had to whittle.
And it was a real soapy's choice.
Yeah.
I was whittling away things that I really liked.
Do you guys know the company The Row?
I'm not familiar.
The Row was created by Mary Kate and Ashley Olson.
Really?
And it has become one of the most celebrated
and sought after and acclaimed fashion labels in fashion.
Good for them.
Good for them, because they probably,
their acting careers are over.
Dude, they are killing it.
The Row is so expensive.
I didn't buy anything from the row.
It's too expensive.
I like to see, I like to, I like to,
I like when child actors don't like fail miserably in life.
Like I like, I like that.
Like we're not seeing the Olsen twins on like podcasts.
You know what I mean?
Cause that's what happens.
Like a lot of, a lot of like child stars,
like you'll be scrolling Instagram and all of a sudden
you'll be like, oh shit, that's that dude from that show.
I mean, they may be doing fashion. They may be doing podcasts, but it would be about fashion
It would be a fat dude. I'm telling you you wouldn't believe how how good this shit is. I I
It's the prices are bananas. Yeah
But it's everyone loves it. Did you buy some of their shit? No, I tried a bunch of it on it was pretty cool
Well, they make stuff for dudes. Yeah, what do their skinny little asses know about men's clothing?
I don't know, seriously.
Dude, apparently more than everybody.
They could probably fit one of them in each of those legs.
I also think that they have a whole bunch of designers.
I don't know how much of the men's clothing
they're actually designing themselves.
None.
Okay, but then, listen to this.
Listen to this, listen to this.
This is crazy.
Yeah.
So I did all that shopping.
I was running errands all day yesterday.
Yeah.
I did all that shopping. Then I went to Whole Foods and got groceries for the week. And then I, and by the
way, I had spent so much at this clothing store that as I was going through Whole Foods, I was like,
I can't afford the dry aged New York Strip. I'm going to go with the regular grass fed.
So that's like $23 to like $19 or something. Yeah. Oh my
god. Now I need to save $5. You gotta go to Trader Joe's for
your meats. I know. I know. But I went to Whole Foods. I'm
telling you. I knew that before you said it. Then why are you
going to Whole Foods for your meats? Because it's a it's if
you're gonna get meats at Whole Foods, it has to be chicken and
nothing else. Anything else is too expensive.
Well.
You know who actually has a great cut?
Costco.
Let me, you're going to love this.
Where this is going.
Got my Whole Foods.
Then I went to a paint store and I purchased some paint.
And then I went to some outlets in industry city
and bought a lamp at the RH outlet store.
Restoration hardware.
That was like way marked down
because it had a little ding on it.
And then in that same place I bought a box
of chocolate truffles that I hand selected myself.
Very nice.
Some dark chocolate peanut butter cups.
I also bought one that was peanut butter jelly
covered in dark chocolate. This all in one day. I didn't like yeah
I'm trying to see where ball fits in
The nine-hour window sitting on your couch and watching ball like I'm thinking Bill's cheese
I watched those raven steelers. I watched some of those chiefs
I got home just in time to watch you wake up at the crack of dawn to do I wake up early
I mean, I'm honestly I'm thinking pages my own must biography as well. Really? You doing hard time to wake up 2 the crack of dawn to truffle chop? Yeah, I wake up early. I mean, I'm honestly thinking Patriots Ramps. Oh, I read 75 pages of my Elon Musk biography as well.
Really?
Yeah.
What the fuck?
You doing hard?
So what time did you wake up?
2 AM?
Probably 6.30.
What do you want, a Mark Wahlberg?
Yeah.
How did you squeeze?
Dude, I woke up yesterday before ball,
and I went on a walk and got a smoothie.
And I was like, damn, I can't believe
I was able to squeeze this all in before I won.
Dude, because my clothing, okay, so I went last,
I went to this antique store in Brooklyn
and I parked on the street and it was such a nice day
that I had put the windows down on my car.
And as I parked my car, I put the windows up,
but without realizing it,
I did not close the window in the backseat.
One of the two windows in the backseat was wide open. Which vintage store was it? Is it the...
The horseman one. On Atlantic Avenue? Yes. That's like five stories? Yep.
That's the best, that's the coolest store that I've ever been to. I'm in the fourth floor and I'm hearing to myself
someone talk about like a chair and I'm like,
golly, that sounds like Mark Normand.
And I walked down a flight of stairs and sure enough,
I ran into Mark Normand.
And I'm like, I thought I was imagining that.
He's got a pretty distinct voice. I feel like he does.
It rings out. Yeah.
These are expensive. Whatever.
And we said hi to each other, talk for a little bit.
And then he said goodbye by saying comedy.
No, he didn't. I'm like, dude, I don't think you need to say
that here. I've had I've had interactions with him out in the public where he's done
that. Yeah, it's just like a tick. It's like it's great. Yeah. He actually said that. Yeah.
I didn't buy anything. I got back to my car and everything was gone. No. You got robbed?
Except for the clothes,
because I had put them in the trunk.
Oh, okay.
So the chocolate truffles.
Oh no.
Were gone.
No.
The lamp was gone.
No.
The groceries were gone.
No.
They took my groceries,
two bags of Whole Foods groceries. Oh
They're just eating a fucking the grass-fed ribeye tartar
They can't even fucking cook it if they're just robbing you like that. I know that the most
Burglary of all time they break anything. They didn't take the car
they didn't take anything other than like
Organic grocery. Yeah a lamp bought at a discount and a fucking They didn't take anything other than like organic groceries.
Yeah, a lamp bought at a discount and a fucking house made truffles.
Disgruntled Kamala voter.
Yeah, I was pretty mad.
I mean, yeah, of course.
I would have been raging.
What?
I would have been so pissed all in all.
Especially saying like you have to go back to Whole Foods
Yeah, that that was tough. You have to go back to the fucking truffle shop and you still watch Bill's cheese
I was still pretty close to the Whole Foods, but I did you go so you went no
I didn't have it in me. I just gave up uber eats. Yeah, I just ordered food that night, but I
I I just ordered food that night. But I was in a weird way,
I was relieved because I had put the most expensive thing
in the trunk, which were the clothes that I bought.
If they had gotten off with the clothes,
oh my God, you would have John Wetched the situation.
That would have been really upsetting.
I could have legitimately seen you going on
a Patrick Bateman-esque killing spree
of the homeless on Atlantic Avenue.
Or today, instead of taking my first pill of medicine, you going on a Patrick Bateman-esque killing spree of the homeless on Atlantic Avenue?
Or today, instead of taking my first pill of medicine, I'm taking the month's supply
and seeing where that leads me.
Extremely well-butrined.
Yeah.
But Atlantic Avenue on that stretch is not even seedy.
It was just off Atlantic, like into sort of Boramhilly. That's not seedy. It was just off Atlantic, like, you know, into sort of
Boram Hilley. I parked on one of those lovely... It's nice. It's nice. Broad daylight. Yeah.
I didn't... They didn't have to break in! The window was open! Honestly, someone
would probably be like, well, that's what you get for leaving your
window open. It shouldn't be! Leaving your window open is not an invitation for fucking no fevery
That would be so fucking pissed. I would be pissed. That's that's pretty brutal
At least they didn't get the clothes for some reason. It didn't bother me that much
It's like 150 bucks of groceries. Well, be trim will have that effect on you
The lamp was like a hundred bucks
Well, just good have been way worse.
And just going, all right. I'm trying to not, yeah. Whatever. I don't care. Let it roll
off. It's bound to happen. That's what I'm trying to be now. That's what I'm doing as
well. To me, I was more upset later that night that I had spent as much as I did on clothing I was more that was my major
Hang up at least you'll be able to use the clothes. Yeah
Yeah, now you have to use the clothes like as a
Sign of fortitude for the clothes fallen brothers the groceries and the truffles in the lamp
Yeah, because like they have to live
Double for their twin that fucking perished.
Hmm. Yeah. You know what I mean?
I know exactly what you mean.
Yeah, I do too. I've been living a Spartan lifestyle.
You have.
Lately.
Very Spartan.
I've been eating meals that are, I take a purple sweet potato, I microwave it on sweet
potato.
I have a setting for sweet potatoes.
I microwave it on sweet potato.
And then I take organic deli turkey, four slices, and an avocado.
And I dribble a little of that Palestinian olive oil made from the rubble on the avocado
with some pink sea salt from the Himalayas.
Wow, that is sounds delicious. the rubble on the avocado with some pink sea salt from the Himalayas.
Wow, that is burnt. Sounds delicious.
Not the Chinese side, the Tibetan side.
Of course.
So you can actually hear the cries of like, it's our country.
Yes, the pride.
Yeah. And then that has been my meal.
Sounds good.
Four slices of turkey and avocado and a purple sweet potato. It's not that good.
Sounds healthy though.
You get sick of it very quickly.
No, like hot sauce or anything?
No.
Jesus Christ.
I've been eating that for lunch and dinner. I ate that for lunch and dinner, not Friday
because I went to Julio's wedding, but pretty much all my other meals.
I don't think you can call it a Spartan lifestyle if you're wearing Manolo Blahnik loafers.
I'm pretty sure that in the movie
300.
I only wear those in the summer. I wear those in the summer.
When you're less of a Spartan.
Yeah.
More of a Peloponnesian.
No, I'm a seasonal Spartan.
You're not Spartan all year long.
I come back to Sparta when I need to really ground myself.
Exactly, yeah. I'm trying to get to Sparta right now.
Get my finances in order.
Yeah.
Is the Welbuche working for you?
Oh, I'm not on Wellbuche.
I'm on, I got Zoloft.
That's soft shit.
Yeah, no, I got Klondike.
What?
Ooh, the Klondike bar.
Bro, you can share that.
I'm not sharing any of it.
Come on, bro.
I'm trying to take it as little as I possibly can.
Because it's so fun.
The K-Pen.
No, it's actually, I will say it's not as good
as Ativan was. The Kingpin?
Yeah.
Con-Con-Pen?
It's because it's a...
You're a Kelada fan?
Yeah, what's the...
It's like a 90s, like, party drug.
What's the, uh, the release?
The...
Limited?
No, like, you know how it like, uh...
Extended?
Extended release.
It's extended release, so it's not like,
like Ativan, you would take it. The theatrical cut. van you would theatrical cut yeah the directors cut four and a half Zack
Snyder made this batch and Michael Bay is talking about how and a half hours
your body when I got prescribed data van for flying a couple years ago that
would be like you take that like ten minutes before the flight you're gone
like like immediately like you're you're in outer space for the entire flight more than Xanax
I have never taken Xanax, but I think Xanax doesn't really have that much of an effect on me to be honest
but Kalanipin is
It's it kind of is just like pretty mellow the entire time
You don't really get a bit the first time I took it which was last Thursday before the show before a show
You're K pinned out of the show
Taking such a small dose
I'm taking half of a point five milligrams now we get the truth this guy's telling me he had to fucking you know
Put his guns in a locker to get a fucking prescription. Oh, I've got do they gave me so many of them
And I can't get a fucking one. You're not getting a single one. Why I put a padlock on the pill bottle Come on, bro. Like the time. Yeah. Yeah, they're just for me. No, just buy someone you're in Thailand next week
I literally are I've had multiple people ask me for them already
I'm about to go to Mexico to try and get some but I probably can't even get him at the mix
That's how good they are. They're so good the pharmacy. It doesn't even have them
No, I'm hoping to just take them for like a couple weeks
when I need them, so I'm hoping to take them
no more than like twice a week.
That's not how Klonopin works.
It's actually exactly how it works.
You're supposed to do it as a very regular
kind of readjust your brain to it situation.
It'll take about two years.
This cactus is sticking into the back of my fucking head.
Yeah, just adjust the cactus. Damn, how do they break the news to you Sticking into the back of my fucking head
Damn how do they how do they break the news to you that you're getting a party drug is your fucking
Prescription because I so I on hey, we're gonna prescribe you we're gonna need to sit you down We like some molly for you. I talked to Francis on I must have been what Thursday or Wednesday
have been what Thursday or Wednesday Tuesday I had spots and I was taking these I was getting prescribed the beta blockers yeah for for for performance
anxiety light is bullshit which is the thing that the thing that's annoying is
that I'm not like I'm not nervous like I'm not like nervous about stand-up
it's not like I'm like oh my god am I gonna bomb like I'm like, oh my God, am I gonna bomb? Like I'm freaking out, am I gonna bomb? You're a killer.
It's the, it's, I had a panic attack on stage
like three weeks ago and then I have panic disorder.
So now every time I'm on stage, I'm like,
it's gonna happen again, it's happening again.
That's, I know people for whom it's simply the fear
of having a panic attack.
That's what panic disorder is, yeah.
Exactly, yeah.
It's self-fulf. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
Self-fulfilling kind of prophecy.
Yeah.
So then you just get into a vicious cycle
of constant, like, when is it going to happen?
I'm going to have a panic attack.
I'm going to have a panic attack.
I felt that way when I first shit myself.
Yeah.
That like, any time I, it's like, oh, I'm
going to shit myself again.
Every time you leave the house.
Exactly.
That's like, oh, no, I'm going to shit myself.
I better try and take a double dump right now.
Exactly.
So I don't shit myself.
For me, it's very similar.
It's not nutting.
Yeah?
You know when you're fucking a girl
and you don't nut, then she gets upset.
Oh, and then you go, I'm never gonna nut again.
And you think, I'm never gonna nut again.
Yes, dude, this is exactly what it's like
for panic attacks for me.
Does Klonopin treat no nutting?
I probably does.
No, it probably makes you like it probably evaporates all your nut inside of you.
You might never nut it.
I got to stay away.
I was going to ask for some of your kingpins.
The kingpin is not going anywhere.
Some of those Klondike bars.
That's also the best part about it is just having it.
Yeah, because it relieves so much like anxiety because you're like anxiety because you're like, well then if I do have a panic
attack, I have the Klonopin.
It's the perfect antidote to the exact feeling you're talking about.
Exactly.
It's like they're fighting against each other and you don't even have to touch the battle.
Exactly.
You're just over here chilling while their existence just leans against one another.
Yeah, but it's been a battle these last couple weeks.
So I got prescribed beta blockers, propanol,
and I took those before doing, I had two spots on Tuesday.
Are they bullshit?
Dude, I've never, I literally wanted to kill myself
for four hours straight.
Like the whole thing was like, they're like,
it eliminates the four.
Four hours?
Try four months, buddy.
Dude, talk to me, talk to me when hours. Try four months. Talk to me.
Talk to me.
And when it's been four months, dude, I remember looking at, I was talking to people at the stand and I was talking about it.
And I was like, I don't think I'm ever going to be able to do stand up again.
Like, like normal.
Who are you saying that to everybody?
And it's a good thing to say to comedy club.
I just don't think it's ever going to go well.
And I just watched the tables
everyone all these it's very funny because Bo Bo Burnham has a funny thing that I went I'm
glad you specified which Bo Bo Burnham yeah that is true Bo Burnham has a uh he he stopped doing
stand-up because he was having panic attacks on stage. Is that your buddy Bo you've been talking about this entire time?
But he has a thing where it was very funny.
It was relatable to me because he's looking up.
He's like, he's talking about how he's about to go up in front of a 2000 person theater
and he's like Googling like how to get over stage fright.
And they're like, imagine everyone in their underwear.
He's like, no, this isn't like a presentation that I'm giving in front of a class.
All of these people are here to see me. So it's
like, look, there's not really a lot of shit that you can look up that helps. But the one thing that
I found was propanol and everyone was like, it'll, I guess it keeps your adrenaline from spiking. So
it makes it so you don't feel the physical symptoms of anxiety. But I must have had like a bad
reaction to it. I took it twice and both times it was like
my physical anxiety wasn't as bad,
but like my mind was just racing.
Like not like, the only thoughts I was having
were like very negative thoughts being like,
I'm gonna freak out on stage.
Like it was terrible.
And this is from the beta blocker?
This was from the beta blocker.
And then, so then I'm like, I'm going on the road on Thursday and I'm like, right
now I don't think I can do an hour.
And so then I called my doctor and they were like, stop taking the propanol immediately.
And then they were like, I can't prescribe you anything else.
Get a psychiatrist went on ZocDoc, focus psychiatrist for like the next 30 minutes.
Dude, dude, dude, I call, I did a zoom within
like five minutes. He was like, I'm going to give you, I was like, he was like a member
of the cartel. It was literally just no problem. It was awesome. He was the best, but he was
like, he was like, how's it going? And I was like, well, I had four panic attacks last
week and he goes, brother, that's too many. It was this like jacked black dude. And just goes he's like brother that's too many
I'm gonna get you I'm gonna help you out
That's cool being called brother by a black doctor
Yeah that's really cool by Jack Black
It was pretty sick and then uh
I wanna see if is Jack Black a sponsor this week?
They are
Damn we'll drop in the Jack Black
We'll drop in the Jack Black. We're dropping pretty good catch there ron
Ron is on his battle rap shit right now. I know right now all these diss tracks
But uh so then I did I did Columbus and I took the the Kalanip in before
Still was like pretty on edge the entire show
I don't know if people can tell but like I was like like the show was fine like I did well but it was like the entire time I'm like
repeating shit in my head to like try and like be like like just let it pass
through like bullshit like that like motivation yeah repeating mantras in my
head and then this too shall pass exactly yeah I had to like write shit
down you're gay ass whine of getting that tattooed on your wrist dude I had
to write it down on my notes with my set list like in caps being like this too shall pass
Yes, exactly keep calm and joke on yeah, how lucky are we yeah exactly dude
It's literally exactly what I had to do like in the hotel room. I had to like prepare myself and be like
Let go
I had to like prepare myself and be like let go
Sucks dude, it's like it's truly it's miserable, but then I did it does help I mean if psycho it all comes in waves it does it does help and there's a I've been reading a ton about like
like what causes panic attacks and stuff and it is very interesting and
What are they what causes them?
Well, it's more like the, it's your mind,
sets off your fight or flight and then you get scared
and then you go into fight or flee,
but I can't flee because I'm on stage, so I fight,
and then it gets worse because then your brain's like,
oh shit, there's actual danger here, and then it keeps increased like it keeps just come I'm not laughing at you pumping
I'm imagining you on stage
Knowing you can't flee and then just fighting people dude
Yeah, that's definitely why a lot of comedians become like super combative
I bet yeah when things aren't going exactly right for them
They get into fight-or-flight, and then they're just like will you maybe you should shut your fucking autistic
Ashing out the single best portrayal of that phenomenon you described
I think for comedians was John Mulaney in his cameo in crashing when
When he says like I hate comedy
Yeah, when they're at town hall and Pete Holmes is opening for him and John Mulaney's walking with him to look at the stage
And he's like, oh god, here we go. It's happening. I hate comedy
It's only the thing I've always and ever wanted to do my entire life and it worked out and now I have to do
It which I fucking hate the single thing. I hate doing the most is the thing I have to do
Yeah, and it's like this just this amazing rant of like you know how it worked out and how it's the worst thing that could
Have happened. Yeah, no, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, but then I did then I did Indy
With MOOC and that was good Connor Connor
I thought you talked about murder MOOC the battle rapper. No, I thought you was in the area though
He was actually doing the downstairs room. I was upstairs
bets
MOOC bets Mookie bets that's I think that's actually where MOOC got MOOC from actually yes
MOOC bets Yeah, was it like a gambling handle
yeah I think Marty mush it was something like that I think Owen would know more
Owen didn't mook what didn't mook used to have like some like website or some
shit
bookies basement I don't know something mookies basement mookies basement
something like that oh my movies there's some weird origin story to the mook thing.
But then I did the first show in Indy, still didn't really feel great.
And then I talked to, I talked to Joe List about it, because apparently he has had the exact same problem.
How'd you get linked up with him? I messaged him, like last resort. What'd you say?
I was like, I'm having panic attacks on stage, like do you have any advice on what to do and he just gave me a bunch of like help
like a ton of helpful information. Did you, were you told that he had suffered from this?
That's what Lev told me that and then I never said anything. Sviridov? Lev told me I never
said anything and then... No not Sviridov, Fyrr, Fyrr. Fyrr and then... I know a guy named Lev
Sviridov. Excuse. I'm glad I clarified.
This is not the guy he knows. It's the guy you know.
The guy I know is in academics.
Yeah.
So it wasn't him.
Not pastries.
Yeah.
But, yeah, the stuff that he said helps a lot.
And then the last show, the weekend, was fucking awesome.
Where was that?
It was in Indy. There was two shows in Indy. Oh, right. And then you went from the weekend was fucking awesome. Where was that? It was in Indy.
There was two shows in Indy.
Oh, right.
And then you went from there somewhere else, right?
No, that one didn't happen.
Can you tell us what advice he gave you just in case someone who's listening suffers and
maybe they could benefit from some of the advice?
Well, I mean, it was pretty standard advice.
He gave me a bunch of like books to read and stuff like that.
And also he was like, he was like, I mean mean if you've had a panic attack on stage then like your biggest
fear happened and you were fine.
So I think that's like the biggest, that's the biggest thing.
It's like you're like, well it happened and it was fine and no one noticed.
And then he's like, if it's too bad that you can't do the show, you just say, I don't feel
well, I have to go.
And then that's it. You could just always blame I don't feel well, I have to go. And then that's it.
You could just always blame diarrhea.
Diarrhea. I have to have diarrhea.
Yeah.
Mitch Hibbert famously had to get off stage
and his opener came, he just told the crowd,
he was like, I'm really sorry, I have to go take a shit.
Yeah.
Walked off, his opener came back on, did more time.
Yeah.
You just have to have someone in the clip
that can just do more time.
Exactly.
There's an amazing clip that I just saw recently of I think it's an Australian weather man
Who starts having a panic attack?
while he's presenting the weather and
Yes, I don't even remember the forecast being that bad. No, which was surprised a sunny day, buddy
Yeah, but he's he's able to articulate that it's coming on.
Yeah.
He's like, OK, over here out of the Northwest,
my heartbeat is starting to race.
And yeah, I'm sorry, everybody.
You know I suffer from panic disorder,
and I'm having a panic attack.
So I'm going to have to take a break.
We just wanted to hear the weather.
Yeah.
And they did it very seriously.
I think everyone is cool about anxiety by and large.
Yeah, I agree.
Anxiety is less stigmatized than depression, I would say.
I would agree with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people have anxiety, that's why.
Even if they don't even know that they have it.
Yeah.
And big tough guys have it. Oh yeah. Like big, strong, tough comedian guys have it. Yeah. And big tough guys have it.
Oh yeah.
Like big strong tough comedian guys have it.
Yeah. Big time.
Well I'm not a big tough strong guy.
Yeah you are.
No. But I will say it does help to know
that someone else has experienced the same thing as you.
Cause in my head I was like,
the only person I could find online
that ever had a panic attack on stage was Bo Burnham
who then quit comedy
Because of that and I was like, well, I don't really want to quit my job. Is that why he quit? Yeah
Performing live. Yeah, he quit performing live because he was having panic attacks on stage. Holy shit
So it's like that's not really a great example of like that's not very like motivating for me
Okay, so I know one person
The only is that, you know, he is one of the great sort of like genre bending comedians of our time.
Obviously, yeah. That's but that's why I'm saying it's not not very motivating for my personal experience.
Right. Yeah. So it was good to know that like other people it's happened to.
If he had known Lev Yes
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Damn, really that's fucking sick that you had the resources to be able to wrangle this problem and oh, it's still a problem
Black dude. Yeah wrangle it though. I mean a wild horse is still a wild horse, but if you break it
You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely feeling better I feel I feel I feel very positive
That's fucking amazing. I feel I feel euphoric right now
Really in a way, I'm sure that will fade. I've been very manic lately. You've probably noticed this you guys and
It manifests typically in just completely
typically in just completely over indulgent activities,
often eating, you know, especially sweets. And then once I curbed that,
that's when you start to see me buying crazy clothes.
Yeah, it was probably, whoever robbed you
was probably just looking out for you.
They're like, oh, I know he's manic.
I cannot let him have these truffles.
They left the medication.
It was in the front cup holder.
It was your guardian angel.
Francis has an angel.
Yeah, but listen, I know I talk about buying
crazy expensive shit.
And by and large, it's not because I'm trying to flex.
It's because something's wrong with me.
And that is how it often manifests.
I'm not trying to excuse it or anything like that, but.
Who's the comic that works at the cellar?
He has like the bit where he's like,
you ever feel down?
Like, I don't know why, I just buy something.
No, I haven't seen that one.
That's what happens to me.
I go and try to do something super, I don't know,
retail therapy or like some big act
and then I spend the rest of the day, if not week,
just being fucking deeply upset with myself
for not having good.
Why don't you just forgive yourself for buying the thing?
Because I think that would be possible
if I were spending, you know, not that much.
But like yesterday, I spent an amount
that is gonna harm me financially.
Like it's gonna require me.
It's done though. To like go live in fucking squalor
In a smart as I said, it's good. It's why I end up microwaving sweet potatoes and eating deli meat for a week
Yeah, it's offset. Oh, it's deli turkey. Oh, I thought it was sliced turkey breasts. No god. No
It's not that bad look I'm being a little Sarcastic yeah, you it was like- Yeah, that's pretty depressing. No, it's not that bad.
Look, I'm being a little sarcastic.
Yeah, you're not gonna have to live in squalor.
I know it.
There's no way you're ever gonna be living in squalor.
No, I'm fine, but it does make me think,
well now I need to go like book a lot more comedy dates
and then I'm like, well, you know, I just,
there's no balance.
I'm not balanced, but that's what the drug
is hopefully gonna help me solve.
It will, for sure.
It will help with that.
Just level out, like live with less crazy swings.
It just takes the edge off.
It's funny that they just like try to put the cure
in the name of it.
Well, Butrin, feel good, Avan.
Ada Van sounds like attaboy.
Ada Van?
Yeah, la raza panna.
It's like a pat on the head. Like Lazarus, like you'll raise from the depths Adavan sounds like attaboy. Adavan? Yeah.
It's like a pad on the head.
Like Lazarus, like you'll raise from the depths of your depression.
La Razapan?
That sounds like something you'd put in a croissant.
La Razapan is Adavan.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Dude, the beta blockers, I was talking to my dad, because my dad took beta blockers too
because of his heart.
Because it's literally low blood pressure, it's to lower your blood pressure yeah and i was saying that when i was
taking it like i was sitting at the stand just like not speaking to anybody and then i looked
at my fitbit and my heart rate was like 50 and i was like am i gonna die i was like my heart
doesn't go this low when i'm sleeping yeah and i sleep my heart rate's like 54 yeah and i was like, my heart doesn't go this low when I'm sleeping. When I sleep, my heart rate's like 54.
And I was like, I'm just sitting at the stand,
not like completely zoned out.
And I was talking to my dad about it,
and he was like, I took it once, and then I stopped.
He was like, my heart rate's like naturally low.
And he's like, I was like walking around,
and my heart rate was at like 38 beats per minute.
And he was like, I'm never fucking taking this again.
What's your resting heart rate, Francis?
I have no idea. To be honest with you.
Let's, let's try.
Is there a way to find that out from your phone?
I'm going to do the heart rate monitor right now.
What the fuck? You can do that?
That won't be your resting now.
When you say beta blockers at the stand, I just keep picturing you at the stand sitting there and then some
like meek muscle-less guy who can't like make eye contact coming up and being like, Hey
Harry, I just want to tell you my big fan and him bouncing off of you. Like some force
field like not now beta bitch. Get away from me. You fucking guy hit the gym.
Say the name of a comic who's a beta fucking column probably.
Me.
I was thinking fans but yeah betas.
I thought that it's 50 I was at 53 beats per minute right now.
Well that's really good right?
Who knows dude.
You wanna try it?
Yeah put your so you put your finger on this camera lens
and you just kind of rest it.
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That one. Yeah. And then just kind of lay it and you'll see it kind of start to track
your track.
Mine's at 80 right now.
I'm really jacked up. I'm having a lot of fun in this podcast.
Why? 94, 96? 94?
89 there? It's coming down.
It's just dropping.
85, 80, 92, it just started you over.
Two inconsistent.
76, 74, 73.
I don't really trust this app.
I don't feel like my heart rate's fluctuating this much.
103?
103, what? Does that mean lying? You have an arrhythmia? What the fuck is going on right now? Don't feel like my heart rates fluctuating this much
Edward Edward Jones, how come when you said you're having a lot of fun on this podcast. It's spiked up to 130 I will say this is the best that your energy and my energy has been in a long time I would
say probably yeah we're doing well you and me well I also got this fucking sweater which
I'm stoked on how much was that this was $80 damn dude got it on D pop I got it on the
paw you boys are dropping bags on, we're backed up wait ron
Well, I don't think $80 for a vintage orvis sweaters. It's kind of expensive $80 is kind of expensive up there
That's a lot you spent $500 on jeans
Yeah, but jeans last a lot longer than sweaters do dude
You could go to Walmart and buy jeans for, like good jeans, for like $3.
Walmart?
Yeah.
Why would I go in there?
You'd be walking around Walmart.
Look, I understand that I microwave my dinners right now,
but I don't actually need microwavable dinners.
He said he's going to be living in Squalor,
but that was more of a figure of speech.
He's not going to actually go to Walmart.
There was a greeter at the Walmart.
I used to go to Walmart all the time in Falmouth, Maine,
right next to the movie theater.
And we would go in there.
Field trips, just to be like, see, this could happen to you.
And there would be a greeter who had a roll of smiley face stickers,
and he would give you one right when you walked in the door.
And he was the oldest man who has ever walked the face of the earth really he
was so old and it was disquieting it was unsettling yeah I keep on getting you
keep on getting those things on Twitter of them being like they've just
discovered a man in India who's a hundred and eighty eight years old yeah
and he like can't put his arm down. Yeah
Yeah, and then like you then like the the community notes are like he's not a hundred eighty years old
They're like he's probably a hundred
You heard Louie's bit about being the oldest person alive. Yeah, I don't when he talks about he's like when when one dies
That means there's a new oldest person on earth
And I don't remember the rest of the bit, but it's very, very funny.
I don't think I remember that one.
It is hilarious.
He's just talking about how people should go.
He's like, go.
It's probably in the same bit where he's talking about kill yourself, where he's talking about
some people should just die.
I think so.
I think it's a bit where he's like He's like it's it's time because like your ideas need to pass like the idea that you hold precious to you
Like are gonna be outdated compared to people from like not yeah
Yeah, but he's like if you ever say to yourself like I just what who are these kids like what is this? It's your time
Yeah, yeah, I know that one. Yeah, it's your turn. Yeah
I was thinking of the one where he's talking about the like people who should just die
he's like he's like
Like the people who have too much like will to live
And he's saying that like someone someone pulls up in the car and they've got the trash bag on the car
And then they get out of the car and they spill their coffee all over them and he's like what's stopping you from killing yourself?
over them and he's like, what's stopping you from killing yourself? He's like, what do you want another trash bag as a window?
And he does the, he does the sound of the bag.
But I bet the guy who working at Walmart, like, uh, he does get a lot of like will to
live.
He probably has like a purpose from going into work every day and having a routine and getting out of the house and giving the fucking whatever
Participation snicker. He was probably once a
All power to him. He's probably is supposed to put those on people's receipts when they're on their way out
And he's probably trying to catch a fucking naughty shoplifter. Oh, he probably has a fucking old West
trying to catch a fucking naughty shoplifter.
He probably has a fucking old West complex. Dude, that is my dream.
I see these videos of the shoplifters in random parts of the country,
and then some good Samaritan tries to stop them.
I want to be that guy.
I want to stand at the door.
Go downstairs to Dwayne Reed, dude.
It's happening now.
I want to, but I want like a wave of kids
and I want to see how many of them I can fucking clothesline.
Bro, they would take you out.
No, they wouldn't because they are trying, they know they're wrong and they've got a
bag full of whatever.
And so they're not, they're just trying to get out.
Yeah.
And they're going to come and it's like whack-a-mole.
How many of them can I catch?
I want to see you with like a police baton, like fucking Highlander, like backhanding somebody,
like catching 20 teens during the fucking organized looting.
And even if I only catch one, I can take that kid with me and teach him my ways and get
him to work under my ethos and be my kind of loyal companion.
That would be a good movie.
I would definitely watch that.
Even if he's got like a speech impediment or something like that.
You think that you could cure someone's stutter with your love for justice?
It would depend on whether or not he'd suffered a lot of recent family trauma and had been
kind of orphaned as a result of, say, a flood.
A flood or an attack on his parents or something like that. What movie are you referencing? and had been kind of orphaned as a result of, say, a flood.
A flood or an attack on his parents or something like that.
What movie are you referencing?
What's that?
What movie are you referencing?
Because I don't know.
Oh, no, I'm just thinking out loud.
No, you're referencing a movie and I can't figure out which one it is.
It's not a movie.
It's The Penguin.
The Penguin?
Have you watched The Penguin?
No, I haven't.
Good for you for knowing what was going on and playing along.
The Penguin is excellent.
Oh, I knew exactly what was going on
I was gonna figure out what the movie was he knew and he played along he riffed and you were like what's happening right now
No, I knew you were referencing something. You tried to beat a block what it was. No, you were beta blocking
Speaking of movies. Have you guys watched scent of a woman the other night you guys seen it?
When did that come out
You guys seen it
When did that come out?
Dude it's you watch that lately you see that on you have you seen it don't spoil it bro. Just came out Have you seen it? I've never watched where he's like yells at the kid for after the expulsion ceremony
So good, dude
Who is it? 1992 Pacino?
He's blind?
He's blind?
He's blind.
What's the kid's name?
Chris, you played Robin in Batman and Robin.
Chris O'Donnell.
That's right.
That's my uncle's best man.
Shut up.
They went to Loyola together.
They did crew at Loyola High School.
Wow.
Really?
Yeah.
That's who's in it?
O'Donnell?
He's a child of it. No way. Is Brendan Fraser in it?
Is he one of the kids?
No, that's like something school days or something like that. No, but there is another really famous guy. That's one of the kids
What the fuck? Oh, Donald? Oh, Donald's incentive a woman? Yeah. Yeah, he's in it
I'll show you out of order. Oh, Philip Seymour Hoffman's in it.
Oh, PSH.
PSH.
I was underwhelmed by his son's performance in
Licorice Pizza.
Sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear you over the
ads that you're playing out of your phone.
I tried to watch the fucking scene, I'll show you
out of order.
Dude, don't spoil the movie.
You gotta watch the movie.
It's about a blind dude. It's so good. A handsome blind bro. It's so good. There's a blind dude.
Out of order I'll show you out of order. That's a good Pacino. I know. Do it again. I'm gonna
pretend I'm blind and you're Pacino. Pacinoachino is the blind guy. Pachino's blind. Why is his hair so immaculate if he's blind?
Why does he have like a weird facial impression? Because he hasn't always been blind, bro.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean he's... I haven't always been blind.
He says that, innit?
I haven't always been blind. I've seen.
That's what he says.
And if I was the man I was five years ago,
I'd take a flame thrower to this entire place.
It's so good, dude.
This woman smells good.
It's kind of my guess of how it would go.
He thought it is a lot about.
But don't want.
Why am I getting,
I'm getting a soap and water smell from down low.
That's what he says. He's talking about he's talking about vaginal. He's talking about he's talking about a girl that's sitting below them. Jesus Christ. But but a lot of blind folk usually have like a like a weird facial expression that they'll make because they don know. They don't know what they're looking like. Yeah, but he did.
He went blind in the war.
But doesn't...
You guys ever emulate as an experiment being blind?
You ever...
Close your eyes.
Close your eyes and try to walk?
I'll do it as I'm going to sleep.
I do, yeah, I do it every night,
but sometimes during the day,
I'll do it when I'm with someone,
and I'll say, you know, guide me down the street. Let's play blind. And I play with someone and I'll say, you know guide me down the street
Let's play blind and I play blind and I gotta tell you I
Don't know why they are choosing to live that way
Because it's not as good as as they make it seem and since the woman has seen
Yeah, so much to see I'll tell you what though. They pull baddies though
Do they a self-conscious broad loves a blind bro true in in
90 day fiancee there's a
African bro, who's like he pulled some like white American broad who like went over there and is
Desperate to find love but she's so self-conscious that she wanted a blind man. But she's terribly abusive to this poor blind man.
It's nasty, but it good for him for pulling,
but he doesn't know how to exactly hold his face.
I hope he doesn't hear this.
What a crazy story that love story is.
There's a lot of elements of that.
I know, it's so funny to watch.
90 Day Fiance really has it all. But this poor African bro, I mean I guess he's not a poor African bro because he
found her in a chat room. I don't even know how. It must have been like an oral
chat room. Yeah probably. He can't go in a traditional chat room. The incentive of a
woman he's always doing the call thing. Talking dirty on the phone. Oh really? Yeah. What like a call, like a sex hotline?
Yeah. Really?
Yeah. We used to-
I can't watch porno anymore.
Do an impression of-
Nah.
Damn.
We've already gotten enough.
We used to, when we were in high school,
we would call that phone number where they had to dictate
what you had typed.
IP relay.
Yeah.
And say like, poop, poop, pee, pee.
Poo, pee, poop, pee, come, come.
And then laugh hysterically because these people
were legally beholden to say exactly what you had written.
And it was free.
Yeah.
So sad that we did that.
I feel bad.
I feel bad.
It must have been 90% of the calls they took.
I would think so.
People used to like terrorize the Walmart customer service line because I don't think,
I don't know if it's still a thing, but I know it used to be they were not allowed to
hang up until the problem was like resolved.
So you could keep a Walmart customer service person on the line for like 15 hours straight
You take the next shift I'm gonna get some rest
You want to tap in can I can I do a quick? Thank you by the way? I want to thank all the amazing son of a boy dad listeners who reached out with
recommendations for
Shoes that I should buy. A lot of people mentioned pair of boot and I have not bought any, but that is exactly
what I'm thinking I need to get.
Francis is getting a pair of boots.
A pair of boot. And then I want to shout out Mike, who does audio visual stuff and installed
my sound system. Shout out Mike. He's a listener.
How much did he?
What?
How much did he charge?
He was really, really generous to me.
Really? Yeah.
So you did it for the, he did it for the shout out?
I don't think he asked me to.
I'm very confused by Mike.
Where did you meet Mike?
Mike is a listener, son of a boy dad.
And he, he came to me because I said on many episodes ago,
I was like, God, speakers are expensive.
And I don't know if he just like, a truck ran off the road
and he found a few, but he gave me a great deal
and installed them and they're awesome.
So he came to your apartment?
My home, yeah.
That's crazy.
What?
Yeah, Mike.
Mike, all right. Is there anything else that you could give, so. That's crazy. What? Yeah, Mike.
Mike, all right.
Is there anything else that you could give,
like so he could maybe reap some benefits?
Let's put it this way.
If you out there are looking for a great speaker installation,
home audio visual, message me and I'll connect you to Mike.
You're going to do all that?
Why don't you just put out Mike's information?
Also, I want to shout out Joe, who does electronic blinds and did my windows
What a Spartan lifestyle he lives. I know Joe
electronic blinds on Long Island the string was too much family-owned business
Trust me. I I wanted to do the hand-drawn blinds. I really did but
The place that I had done, I rent it.
Yeah.
And the people who rent this place, expect a level of sort
of infrastructure that you have to meet.
I said they're not gonna
they would complain because I know other people in the rental
pool who have the hand drawn blinds. And I've heard renters
be like, I'm never renting their place again, because I had to close the blinds by my hand. But
that's how I knew I had to get the electronic blinds. But you paid for them.
What? The electronic blinds. I did. And is Joe a listener or Joe's just a listener?
Joe's a listener. Joe's a listener as well. There's no way that there's this
many people that are listening. Bro, we have a huge listenership
among the 100,000 people that listen to an episode.
Should I not say that?
Is that wrong to say?
No, it's more than that.
More than that.
That listen to each episode of this podcast,
there is at least one guy.
At least one Joe and at least one Mike.
Who does electronic blind installation.
There's another guy who does speakers
and then there are a bunch of people who have good taste in shoes and boots
Okay, shoes and boots. Yes out of a hundred thousand people
I have to thank them all because I keep getting these amazing recommendations
Then I have these back and forth via my DMs that lead to wonderful results for my life
And I always forget to thank these people and I'm just showing my gratitude out of a hundred thousand people
God, we should check my heart rate now.
The Wellbutrin is really working, I gotta tell you.
Yeah, out of 100,000 people.
Out of 100,000 people, the odds that we have two people
that live in New York, that work and are based in New York,
that do speaker installation and electronic blinds.
I mean, that's like, you have a better chance
of winning the lottery.
Wait, wait, wait.
You're doing that wrong.
You're saying that you make it sound like I asked for both of those things at the same
time and that they had to be in New York.
They didn't.
So you flew them in?
Well they happened.
One happened to be a Long Island and then the other happened to work in like Connecticut.
So tries to area and they can they drove it wasn't like, you couldn't say,
I need a speaker installer
and I need home electronic blinds
and that they have to have some kind of connection
to each other.
These were separate requests.
I didn't do all that in the same episode.
No, I'm not saying that you've been requesting too much.
I'm just saying. Well, they're not tied to each other.
It's not factorial.
The fact that there's two of those guys that both are big listeners.
Yes, you're doing this as if it's like a factorial. Yeah, it's not factorial.
One out of six million times one out of six million. It's not that. Then what is it?
Sounds like it's exactly that. You want to do this? Let's do it this way. Let's actually do some math here.
100,000 listeners, let's say 80% of them are men, maybe 90, right?
So 90,000 people.
How many of them live within driving distance to New York?
I don't know.
Probably like 20 to 30,000 maybe, given the population density and the fact that we're
here.
So then of that many, 30,000.
It's more in this area.
Yeah, it's probably like 60%.
Okay, 40,000, 50,000 people of them.
How many of them work or can install speakers?
There's probably 10 of whom three DM'd me,
one was able to do the job.
Why is that that crazy? If you are a speaker or a sound, what was the?
By the way, I paid these guys.
No, I'm not saying you didn't pay them.
I'm just curious.
And I'm hopefully getting them referrals
and more business and stuff like that.
So, you know, this isn't just a total favor.
What is the job?
Which one?
Speaker installation.
You're talking shoes, boots.
Okay, no, shoes, boots.
Electronic blinds.
That doesn't count because everyone wears shoes and boots.
Yeah, but that's still something
that I needed to thank these people for.
If you are a speaker installation worker
and you work within driving
distance so let's say you work within what a hundred miles of New York City
mm-hmm comment on the podcast and let us know if you have the capability of do
now they won't because you know I'm trying you I'm genuinely curious you're
how many you're gonna put a minute you're like I don't know if we have a huge fan base of speaker installation people.
Yeah, but here's the other thing.
Now you've also selected a group that's probably consuming the podcast via YouTube.
No, probably via speaker.
Through YouTube?
Yeah, YouTube connects to a surround sound speaker.
They're probably the ones complaining about the sound quality and the fact that I sniffled through my nose
because they're hearing it very clearly.
Yeah, with their Sonos.
They, that, I don't know, have them DM you if you want.
If you want.
Oh no, I know, I'm great with tech.
I've become tech wizard, to be honest.
Oh, I didn't even tell you guys about what happened
last week.
What is your, what are you seeking here? I'm really not seeking anything I'm just genuinely
curious. I bet you could install some speakers. Absolutely. Yeah you probably could.
Yeah all right what's a different job? Um well let's do one in your purview. Let's say like
fly fishing salesman like someone who sells fly fishing gear or is a guide.
If you are someone who works in... Now that doesn't count because we talk about fly fishing
all the time so it's probably...
So you think it attracts more fly fishermen?
I think there's probably a decent amount of fly fishermen
that listen to the show.
You've drawn people here.
Cause I get hit up all the time about people
for fly fishing.
Okay, yeah.
How many, so what are we trying to do?
We're trying to figure out what people do for work.
How many of a certain... That listen to our podcast. That is, this what are we trying to do? We're trying to figure out what people do for work. How many of a certain.
That listen to our podcast.
This is not the way to do that.
Here we go.
Comment what you do for work.
Comment what your job is.
And then everybody else up vote
if you have the same job.
If you have the same thing, up vote that
and we'll see what gets most up voted.
And we should guess what we think it will be.
Finance.
Probably, right?
I think a lot of garbage folk listen.
I would be very, I'm just curious to know
how many audio technicians we have working,
listening to the podcast.
You don't need hundreds, you need one.
I know, but I'm, dude, I'm saying that the odds
that we had, that you had two, that you had-
But you can't do that math.
Why?
Because you're doing it wrong.
I didn't, I don't know how to describe it. It's not factorial. I feel like
you're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm just saying that
it's crazy. I know what you're saying and you. That it's crazy
that you were like I need speakers installed and then
someone that listens to the podcast was like I install
speakers. Let me drive to your apartment. That's crazy to me.
Like I didn't I would have assumed that you would have heard
nothing back from that. But maybe there's other stuff that he hasn't heard anything.
If I if I said right now and nobody will do, nobody will respond to this
because now they know we're doing this as a joke kind of.
Well, no, it's just we're doing statistics.
Yeah. But but if I said right now, like, hey, everybody,
unfortunately, a beloved family member of mine just passed away
and I'm having a really hard time finding the right crematorium or
grave digger or like a funeral home. Does anyone out there work in embalming that I can trust?
We definitely have a bunch of those.
And I'm telling you, we get 15 DMs from people that work in that fucking job.
Yeah, you're probably right.
And that's like a fucking job. Yeah, you're probably right. And that's like a random job.
Yeah.
If you had, you know, you want to talk about like your anxiety,
I bet you that there are five to ten.
Jack Black dudes.
Psychiatrist MDs who can prescribe medication,
who would be able to weigh in on the chemical balance of the drugs you're taking.
Yeah.
We have a big listenership and it's pretty varied, I would think, in profession. Yeah, you're probably right.
And part of that, by the way, is that we're not a podcast about specifically skiing, where
you would expect the entirety of our listenership to be ski people.
Except for when we talk about my trips to Mexico, if you know what I mean.
Oh yeah, of course.
So what happened this weekend that you forgot to talk about you built something or something oh my
last
Tuesday
after the podcast
My Wi-Fi was down that morning
And then if anyone out there works in Wi-Fi
And then I came home, and it was still down.
And then I reset the router, did some unplugging, nothing was working, got on the phone with Spectrum.
They said they're going to have to come send someone to my apartment because the router is broken.
No.
Yeah. I fixed it.
You fixed the router?
I fixed it.
You got under the hood? I got under the hood. What did you do? You sl You fixed the router? I fixed it. You got under the hood? I got under the hood.
What'd you do?
You slid underneath the router?
I rewired everything.
What does that mean?
I had to add some splitters and it was...
Actually?
Yes.
You actually got new wires and plugged them in?
Yes.
Did you open up the face of the router?
No. So it of the router? No.
So it was the wires? It was a bunch of it was a bunch of problems, but I did it. I was pretty pumped that I was able to do without having to have some dude come to my house and do it.
That is sweet. I'm giving you your flower for that. I was pretty pumped. I think that you could
install his, I think that you could have installed his speakers is my point and so my point on top of that is if we're just looking for a speaker installer
person maybe that's more rare but probably a decent swath of people can
install speakers oh yeah yeah you know what I mean like it doesn't mean that
it's only their specialty in the one thing they do in life yeah just like you
could probably install speakers if you wanted to because you have technical know-how and the fucking desire to complete tasks. Exactly. Not me though.
I should have been an engineer. These are niche fields but they're not fucking crazy fields.
Speaker installation I don't think is a field. I think we're skipping... Home audiovisual. HV. HVAC.
But I think that's just kind of like anyone that knows anything about tech could probably do that, right?
AV, what am I saying? No.
You don't think?
No, because I think that you want it done cleanly, you want the wires hidden,
you want the right... you want advice on the system.
There's 20 Russians on TaskRabbit that I could hit up right now to do it.
I could have Vladimir here in fucking 10 seconds to do it. It's in the Russians blood. Yeah. They just know how to install things. They do. I will say I do struggle with the
wires, like the hiding of the wires. There's like pretty much, I pretty much just have like trip wires all over my apartment.
Shout out to Vladimir. So, no joke,
right now, if we said Hairball is struggling with all the wires that are
throughout his apartment, he actually has a bunch of holes in his walls that have already
been dug by the mice that seem to just live with him symbiotically, if there's any chance that you could message Hairball
and would be willing to come to his home someday to help him hide some of his
wires, he'll happily pay you to do it. That would happen.
I think that the more rare field that we're overlooking is blind installation.
That one was harder. That was more amazing that I found that guy.
Yes, definitely.
That guy crushed it.
The blinds.
Joe, out on Long Island.
This show is heavy on the blinds from scent of a woman to this.
Yeah, big blind day.
Really putting the respect on the blinds.
Heavy on war and peace too.
He also like, you know, he didn't try to upsell me crazy.
That's what I like.
I mean, you get-
Well, you are already getting the nicest thing that he had.
No, no, no, I could have gone way more expensive
than the ones I went.
Oh yeah, I did not go crazy expensive.
What noise do they make when you hit the button?
Ooh.
You know what I will say?
I will say I like when I say-
Yeah, it's like this.
I like when I stay at a Citizen M
and they got the zzzzzs. That's what I have.
Those are nice.
Well actually it's not full blackout.
There's a little tiny, which I like.
I don't want it to be full pitch black when I wake up.
Well it's very hard to wake up when that's the case.
I know.
That's why I always have a hard time waking up because my room has no windows.
Yeah, you live in a coffin. Yeah. Which is nice. Do you leave your hall light on?
Yes. So that a little bit of light comes through the door. If I don't, it's pitch
black. I have a window, but it just looks into a dark alley.
This is where your vitamin D deficiency comes from.
I don't know if that's it. I don't know if sleeping is what it is.
I mean, are you getting a lot of vitamin D while you're sleeping?
I get vitamin D through my windows.
In the mornings, I sit and read about Elon Musk.
And the sunlight comes in.
You're supposed to get like 30 minutes of unfiltered sunlight into your eyeballs and ground yourself.
What else have they recommended?
Breath work. Forcing in the morning.
Ice bath.
Mouth tape.
I've been big on the meditating lately.
Journaling.
Call map or other?
Multiple different.
I found my journal that I was trying to do pretty religiously for a while.
Well, I was doing it for weeks and weeks and then I left it.
The renters came and I was afraid that they were going to find it. So I hid it.
Yeah.
And then I forgot where I'd put it. So I couldn't journal.
And then I remembered a month later and I got it. And my first entry was again last night.
And I apologized to the journal for how long it had been.
I've been out of touch. I've been going through a lot in life.
I'm sorry. It's been so long since I last checked in.
I feel like a fucking psychopath.
Did the journal write back to you? Like the Marauders map?
Yeah, like Tom Riddle.
Doesn't he do something back?
Yes, yes.
No, it did not write back.
It's Harry Potter. I'm familiar.
It was giving me the cold shoulder.
Damn. So when did you start journaling? Like how old is that journal?
I mean I had journaled for about a month every day leading up to when I hit it
and then forgot where it was.
You hid your journal. What would the people have said? What would the renters have said?
Well, I just worried that they were going to find it and read it.
That's right.
You got to put a lock on that thing.
Oh, I know.
Yeah, you got to get one of those cute little locks.
Also, I don't know why I didn't just bring it with me.
I think, yeah, I don't know.
I don't remember what was going on there.
Do you hope that it'll turn into a memoir someday?
No.
And I had that thought.
No. I had that thought. I was like, is there a world where somehow the shit that I'm? No, and I had that thought. No.
I had that thought.
I was like, is there a world where somehow
the shit that I'm writing this, if I ever live a life
that's worth writing a memoir about, will become chapters?
Why don't you just write a book about getting
through your mental struggles?
I haven't achieved enough yet to warrant anyone reading
a fucking page about my life.
Well, it doesn't have to be a memoir.
It just could be about a self-help book on getting through the struggles.
Yeah.
Again, I think that there are people who have achieved a lot more who have also struggled
far worse.
Most people who write a self-help book haven't achieved shit.
It's like people who are life coaches that are just like...
I'm not equipped to help anybody.
But like a life coach, if your life is good enough
to be like worthy of being a coach,
you probably aren't being a life coach.
Mine's a cautionary tale.
Yeah, well maybe that's helpful for people as well.
Here's how not to live if you want to be happy and healthy.
I think everyone's got a little extra pep in their step today
just because the Chiefs have fallen.
Well, that Josh Allen rushing touchdown was... was the greatest thing I've ever seen.
Truly iconic. Yeah. It was so sick. In that moment I thought this guy must be so many
people's favorite player. Oh yeah. So many people's favorite player. He's MVP.
He's got to be MVP. He's got to be. He's gotta be. But somehow Lamar is still like,
right there in the odds with him.
People are really obsessed with Lamar.
But haven't they lost four times?
Yeah.
Put the good brother Jalen Hurts in the conversation
if we're just throwing.
Oh my God.
What I'm saying, my point is if we're just throwing,
people win. Oh my God.
And we're talking ball.
Brother, I've been supportive of your depressive episode
for how long?
Jalen Hurts.
What are we talking about?
If he has 20 rushing touchdowns, it's
going to be a hell of a day.
Jesus Christ, brother.
The Kalana pin is working overtime in your brain right
now.
I've never seen you roll your eyes back into your head
and laugh before.
I've never seen that maniacal of a laugh.
I do agree, Jalen Hurts should be in the conversation.
That's all I'm saying.
If you're putting Lamar in,
then he merits a top five spot in the conversation.
He does. He does deserve that.
So roll those eyes back into your head.
Jalen's having a good season.
Thanks, bro.
Patrick Mahomes shouldn't be in the season. Thanks, bro. He is having a good season, and Patrick Mahomes
shouldn't be in the conversation.
He will be.
The thing that bothers me is how mad people get
when they see that he is in the conversation.
It's like, dude, obviously he's gonna be in the conversation.
The NFL is not gonna take Patrick Mahomes
out of the MVP conversations.
The team was undefeated.
Yeah, they're not gonna do that.
Doesn't matter if he's not playing well.
Even after this loss, they're still going to have him in the quarterback on
the best team in the league.
Yeah, that's basically what it is.
Pretty simple.
It's not most valuable.
It's quarterback on the best team.
But I did see I want to say I don't know if it's Fox NFL's
Twitter account.
Dude, their power rankings and they're like all their shit is
so bad.
Yeah, I wouldn't read too much.
And I still think we're in a case by case or week by week. Yeah. I wouldn't read too much in.
I still think we're in a case by case,
or we're week by week.
Yeah, any given Sunday.
You know, those odds could change a lot.
Pacino.
Pacino.
Yeah.
Do a little, give us a little Pacino
from any given Sunday.
I haven't seen it.
What?
Oh, you're gonna, it's, the two things are off.
When you're at those inches,
that's gonna be the fucking difference between winning and losing
Yes, I'll have to check it out that two inches in front of your face
Yeah, I think I think Jalen Hurts should be in the conversation. I think Derek Henry
I don't know why he's not in the conversation. They don't ever do running backs anymore
But I agree that it's Josh Allen's award to lose. It's Josh Allen should be number one right now.
I mean that touchdown, he won the game.
Yeah.
Well they were already winning.
You know Mahomes.
And then on the ensuing drive,
Mahomes did get them into a field goal position.
But if he had, where they were.
If it wasn't a two score lead,
Mahomes would have, they would have done it.
No, because they didn't score a touchdown on the last drive.
Mahomes?
Yeah.
Yeah, because they knew the game was already over.
No, but if they, if they had-
He got them to field goal range though.
But if they had not scored a touchdown there,
they would have kicked a field goal,
so it would have been a five point game,
so the field goal wouldn't have won them the game.
But it was fourth down, if he hadn't gotten the first down.
Yeah, I get-
Good point, good point.
Let's see, Francis Ball never. I get a point. Frank, see Francis Ball.
Never I get what you're saying, but I also don't really watch ball.
I don't I don't know when you guys talk ball.
We go back to all that crazy shit we were talking about.
I have I have more.
I have more to say about ball.
Unfortunately, unfortunately, really quick.
If anyone out there works for ball.
Hairball here could really use a little
info.
Yeah, sure.
Works for the NFL?
What do you want?
Tickets?
Jerseys?
Or is there like, is anyone associated with an NFL team a listener?
I know that we have the Denver Nuggets in our back pocket.
I have Vikings guys.
I know we have listeners that work for NFL teams.
Absolutely.
I've got a couple guys on the Vikings.
If you're out there, I have been trying to make money
betting on football, and if you happen to walk
into the locker room someday and see that someone
is gimpy, applying.
Insider trade with Francis.
We could use a little of that insider information.
I lost probably the most devastating parlay
I've ever lost last night.
Our parlay did okay.
It did pretty bad. I mean, we won I've ever lost last night. Our parlay did okay.
It did pretty bad.
I mean we won more than we lost.
Yeah.
I lost last night.
I had Joe Burrow 3 plus throwing touchdowns.
I had that as well.
Plus 220 on the Draft King sportsbook.
Yup.
And then I had Jamar Chase, Dobbins, and...
Higgins?
Bangle's money line.
$80 to pay out over $1,000.
The Bangles lost.
I mean, they didn't just lose one.
They lost the game maybe three times.
They missed those multiple field goals.
They could have ended the game multiple times.
Yeah, but even if they hit those, let's do the same math.
Even if they hit those two field goals
Then that last Dobbins touchdown would have still put them up by one Yeah, but the momentum was all if the Bengals hit that field goal. They have all of the momentum
Do you believe in momentum if I do butts worse?
You know if ifs were fifths we'd all be drunk. I know that's it
No one really cares about talking about bets, but that was the worst that was the worst loss I was like I was like I fucking want like I finally want a big bet if if some butts
Could make the cuts we'd all be rich today
if it's in butts where
We're big or I'm trying to make it sexual like nuts, but like figure like nut that you
ejaculate or like a butt, like a butt,
like a fucking butt crack. We can work on that. There's something there. Yeah. It's crazy that
nut sacrifice with butt crack. I know. We should be using that in more adages. Instead you missed,
and now instead they missed, and now you're pissed and sitting here quite gay. Got your ass. I rewatched
A Beautiful Mind
and it reminded me of you a lot, Francis.
Oh, the Russell Crowe character?
No, just the brothers in the Ivy League school at the very beginning.
Too bad. Okay.
Why would you want to be the Russell Crowe character?
He's one of the great mathematicians of all time.
Struggles with his own mental issues,
but in spite of that, progresses mathematical theory in a way that has endured today.
He's really economics too.
That's what he got his Nobel Prize for.
But no, I mean, I relate to the rich privileged douchebags as well.
We can go down that route.
They were great mathematicians as well. We can go down that route. I mean they were great mathematic mathematicians as well. One of them winds up as the Dean of the
School of Harvard and the other two are MIT
scientists. Yeah, that's me. And one of them is a figment of his imagination who you kind of remind me of as well.
Do you know that the Winklevoss twins are like the fifth or sixth highest holders of Bitcoin in the world? Really?
Yeah, I can't even talk about Bitcoin. the world. Really?
Yeah. I don't even wanna talk.
I can't even talk about Bitcoin.
Me neither, it's deeply upsetting.
Why, cause you guys didn't get in?
I mean, I'm not in a position that's Winklevi.
Dude, my Tesla stock.
I'm not in it at all, I'm not in it at all.
And you know what, here's why.
I've had conversations with people,
with someone who is probably the most successful person
I've ever met in my life.
Shane?
No.
I didn't say your life.
I said my life.
And this guy's worth like $3 billion.
Truly, unbelievably successful business person.
Yeah.
And I asked him about, what do you think of cryptocurrency?
And his answer was so damning. But cryptocurrency is a different conversation than Bitcoin.
Bitcoin, he asked it, all of that. He was like, it just, I don't, there's no tangible value. He gave
the Warren Buffett answer. He's saying these tokens are non-fungible? They're only worth something
because people say that they are worth something and then people are like
Well, isn't that true of the US dollar too?
It's like well
the US economy is tied through I don't know is validated through global trade and and
The lending of money to sovereign nations all that shit, whatever
So I think it's not the same. I think that's not I don't think that's a good comparison
But I've never rooted harder for something to fall apart
Really then Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah, I every time that it goes up. I'm like shit
I should get in and then I'm like well
No, I can't get in right now cuz it's too high and then you just forget about it when it just goes up again
Yeah, or like it you just don't hear about it for a while and nobody's like I haven't heard about it
I should get in right now.
But I after watching that movie, I bought the Adam Smith book.
Oh, The Wealth of Nations?
Yeah. Did you?
Yeah. Really?
I just want to see what the fuck A Smith is talking about.
It's only like 580 pages.
Doesn't he describe and correct me if I'm wrong,
does he describe...
Was he trickled down economics? No.
He was like, what is good in a...
In a field where everybody's competitive,
what's good for the individual is good for the group.
Basically was, I think his mantra.
I'm probably butchering it word for word,
but I think that that's the general gist of it.
That's like an economy where everybody is trying to,
you know, do their best.
You doing your best is good for everybody doing their best.
I thought that was an interesting mantra or strategy.
The sum of all parts.
Like that smug look off your face, brother.
I'm gonna come in and educate you on the father of modern economics,
Smitty Smith.
Smitty Barstool.
Isn't he... Is he...
No, that's Locke, State of Nature.
Right?
I don't know. You would know better than I.
No, no, you got the book.
I didn't get it yet. than I know. No, you got the book I didn't get it yet
But I'm gonna crack it
You know why I don't feel bad rooting against Bitcoin
Because I don't think that there are a whole lot of like
blue-collar families that are able to put
Eggs on the table for their kids because of their success in Bitcoin
It's just gonna be a bunch of beep dudes who have to sell their
Maseratis.
I don't know if I agree with that.
Nobody was able to like finally pay off the mortgage on their mother's house because Bitcoin
took off.
I bet some people.
I think there definitely is.
You do?
Yeah.
I don't like that.
That's like a like a like a last hope type thing.
People put like all of their money into that. that it's also it's definitely has ruined some people
specifically other cryptocurrencies I don't know if Bitcoin specifically of
the own people but there I bet that there's some people who hold positions
that have changed their lives yeah from from poverty not just from being like a
cowboy investor. Yeah.
I don't know.
The other thing that pissed me off
about that fucking beautiful mind is,
I'm tired of seeing movies and stories
about autistic people who come to like
this genius level of success.
I expect genius from autistic people.
I know. I think it's a really like, It's a huge advantage. It's a huge advantage. Huge advantage. I expect genius from autistic people.
I think it's a really like, come from behinds,
it's a huge advantage.
It's a real underdog story if it was just like
a fucking neurotypical bro who fucking made it to the top.
That is applause worthy.
It's like, oh yeah, this is just a regular guy.
Like he has like a decent IQ and he just busted his ass.
I wanna see the 100 IQ guy who fucking writes a paper at Harvard or whatever just like a regular Joe me. Yeah
That's a success story. You know hard life has been
Should be so much more successful than I am and I'm not
Because I don't have my brain is you know, perfect
As we've talked about all episode that with your AP watch. I have no success in this world at all
How was Paris? It's all right, buddy
It was act it was beautiful. You go to any museums. Oh, I touch the Lou I touch Lou just to fucking I
Touch Lou just to fucking say I did.
Raft of the Medusa, that's my favorite painting in there.
They sell beers at the McDonald's there.
I went to the McDonald's.
Really?
Yeah.
You see the beers?
I didn't get a beer, but I got the Hot Ones,
I got the Hot Ones Hot Sauce Trio.
Really?
I did the challenge right at the Louvre in Paris.
That's awesome, how was it?
The middle one was the spiciest
What was it was it the bomb? It was like it knows like a Thai one one of them was like Hills Fury
and then the other one was like I
Don't even know supposedly the bomb is the spiciest and you could buy it at like every grocery store
I'm talking but there's the dips that they have at the McDonald's is different
You know about the beer because you went on a field trip there
I went on a field trip there and we went to the me and me and but went to the McDonald's is different. You know about the beer because you went on a field trip there.
I went on a field trip there and we went to the,
me and Beau went to the McDonald's.
Burnham?
Yeah, and we got beers.
And then we went into the bathroom and chugged them.
And then went and saw the Mona Lisa.
This round's on me, this round's on me.
Burnham's actually the spiciest hot sauce they have.
We were with our class, we weren't allowed to drink.
So we chugged 16 64s.
I know this because you told it on an episode.
I feel like you were not here, weirdly.
Probably.
One episode that he and I did together.
But I could be wrong. Did you know that story?
I think I've heard it before. He has like four stories.
Yeah, he's got four.
Tell story three again. I'm joking
I'm joking you have a very deep life experience that I envy and am proud of. I hate when I'll
say this last thing I think that it is incredibly narcissistic whenever someone says, I'm proud of you, to anybody that's not their child.
Oh wow.
If the being didn't come out of your dick,
if you didn't literally create the life,
it's stolen valor to ever be proud of someone.
Really?
Because then you're like, I am taking pride
in your experience. I'm prideful, I'm proud. I am taking pride in your experience.
I'm prideful.
I feel good about what you did.
I have no fucking business ever being proud
of somebody else.
Being prideful in what you did.
Oh, I actually did that because like,
I like you or something like that.
It's so fucking hollow and like,
I understand what you're saying, but I feel good when you guys celebrate my wins. I'm happy for you. Not I'm prideful. I'm happy for you. Sounds like
conciliatory almost. To be conciliatory. No, I'm happy for them. It's like when you find out that
your ex is dating someone new. I'm happy for you. And you're like, no, I'm happy for them. It's like when you find out that your ex is dating someone new.
Oh, happy for you.
And you're like, no, you're fucking not.
You're miserable inside.
But when you're saying, I'm proud of you, that's like, yeah, sign my name on the group
project.
I did it too.
Yeah.
I'm proud of you.
I think it's more like it puts you in a position to be judging their achievement.
What do you mean?
When you say I'm proud of you?
When you say I'm proud of you, it's like,
it almost feels like you think of yourself
as a worthy evaluator of what they've done.
Which is also weird.
Yes, but I think it's more weird for that reason.
I don't necessarily agree with your take.
Well, think of what the feeling of pride is.
What gives you pride?
An accomplishment.
Yes, but I don't know that you need to have ownership of,
like I'm proud of America.
I'm like a proud American.
When America wins gold medals in the Olympics,
I feel proud.
Cause that's your team.
You are that.
Yes, but I didn't... I didn't play.
Then be happy for them.
I feel like I can be proud,
because I'm proud to be an American.
At least because I'm free.
Yeah.
Right.
All righty, let's wrap that up on that.
I don't know, I think that's an interesting take.
I do like the take.
Yeah, pride is gay.
I like the take as well.
But please, stifle my fucking...
When he does well on stage, I feel proud.
Yeah, because you're like,
I'm actually the one who did well on stage.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like I own 15% of his fucking performance right there.
But I don't feel any ownership over it.
I just like to see my friends succeed.
Tacitly, if you're saying I'm proud of you you you're saying that I have some ownership of his yeah he looks at me and he goes look what I've done for this kid
no I say that to other people I don't tell you that
look what I've created
my masterpiece
that's why I think it's only okay if you're like the father of that or like a
mother of that person yeah then you're like the father of that or like a mother of that person.
Then you're like, I've actually created that.
I do genuinely get joy when others succeed.
And if you want to hear the selfish admission, sometimes it's because it makes me realize
that it's possible.
They've shown me that it's achievable, and therefore I feel energized
and inspired. I find it inspiring.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree that it is fine to be happy for someone and good to be happy
for someone without any type of condescension. But I don't think that when you say, I'm proud,
I take pride in what you have done, you're taking from them.
Wow, I'd almost so much rather have someone tell me
they are proud of me than I'm happy for you.
I'm happy for you sounds bereaved.
No, I'm happy for you.
That is funny.
I'm really happy for you.
That's what an opponent says as they shake your hand
and you've vanquished them.
The hubris of defeat.
Right.
Another line from, anyway, go ahead.
We can go.
No, Sass doesn't want to do the pod anymore today.
We're on like two hours now.
This riveting conversation, this riveting, stimulating,
dude, whatever drug you're on has you laughing like a maniac. I'm not on any drugs
The chiefs lost that's why I'm so in a good mood. Okay, fair enough. I will
Stifle any independent thoughts that I have and if all can we have to record a bunch this week?
So we'll continue we can continue the proud boys conversation
All right, we will see you guys on Thursday. Goodbye Close was over, still, still underground So I looked older, till you came around
I was only falling one way
I was only falling one way
Days were drifting
For, for a sigh
So, so then you listen
Now I come alive
I was only falling one way
I was only falling one way
I was only falling one way
I was only falling one way
Fetish drew your eye
Did you realize
No one can take me alive
I was only falling one way
See it just a distant light
Barely fast forever bright
Call it just a memory
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