Stavvy's World - #27 - Eddie Huang
Episode Date: June 5, 2023Eddie Huang joins the pod to discuss the come-up of the DMV, the rise and fall of Will Smith, being a first-generation immigrant born to college-student parents, being married to a Greek woman, how et...hnic food establishments evolve and assimilate overtime, and much more. Eddie and Stav help callers including a guy who wants to get his mom into therapy, and an expat in Australia who wants retaliation after getting screwed over by his boss. Subscribe at patreon.com/stavvysworld for exclusive, Patreon-only episodes.
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I have a big family and they're spread around multiple countries.
So a few years ago it was my brother's wedding and most of them decided to come.
Great news, but a big problem.
Where do you put eight people all with different requirements and keep them all together?
We looked at some hotels but then it was obvious get an Airbnb.
My mom and I were able to find the perfect place.
It was a big house with multiple rooms
and in a part of the city with woods
and walking trails all around.
The Airbnb also included a huge kitchen
where we all got together the day after the wedding
for a big family meal.
This is a cherished memory for my family and me.
And whenever I drive by that location,
it always makes me smile.
Not long ago, my mom and I stopped by that area to walk around and remember one of the most special times for my family
Whether you're traveling with friends or with family for a big wedding or justification get an Airbnb
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I'm pumped to have one of my,
one of my, honestly,
is it the first time I've ever had someone who's
bows, I ate religiously when I moved to New York?
This is the first person,
from the first proprietor of a restaurant
that I used to get when I was depressed
coming from a shitty open mic.
And just drowning bombing in the fried chicken boughs at BOW.
House, please so happy to have my boy Eddie Wong in here.
Thank you so much for coming brother.
Thank you for putting my boughs in the mouth.
Thank you for putting my boughs in the mouth.
Yeah, truly it's like you've done so much cool shit,
but like in my heart nothing will mean as much as the bows.
You know, I feel like too, like it's funny,
like when you come out strong like that,
and like in people's bodies physically,
like, yes, yes.
Nothing else is gonna touch it
unless I start doing like erotic ASMR.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
I've already been to a body.
You gotta get just deep in that caveman brain.
Yeah, but I thank you, bro.
I appreciate, like that's the day one shit. Yeah, yeah thank you, bro. I appreciate that's that day one shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna come down day one too.
I followed you to stop.
There we go, brother.
There we go, I love it, dude.
That's what I like to hear.
Hey, and I would follow you to any different cuisine
restaurant you open up.
Let me make that clear.
Don't, don't.
No, man, but so happy to have you on the pod.
And obviously you started,
it's you're the rare guy who like starts at a restaurant
and then is able to like write books, get movies,
like all that, it's pretty fucking sick.
That off the strength of essentially a Taiwanese sandwich.
You were able to, you were able to fucking have
a whole media career, so salute to you brother.
Thanks man, no, I always felt like I was literally surrounded by like evil geniuses and the
restaurant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Like there's a certain people in the restaurant like there was this guy. He'd lead like like
do it to help us out with electrical. I'm like dog. How do you know how to do IT and electrical
and you're like work at Bauhaus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's another dude
Greg Simmons who's like this, like fine artist painter now.
He came from Bauhaus and I was like,
yo, y'all were all genius.
And then there was this dude that was just like
free-basing meth of a mountain-door candy.
And I was like, I've never seen this technique.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's an ill-technique, like he might be the illest genius,
but I had to let him go.
And that was the hardest conversation ever.
He's like, why, man, I did much, I'm like, yeah, but you also just free-based
Method. Yeah
Everybody saw you on break to it
If you were discreet, maybe we could keep you on the fucking team. Yeah, I was like if I was only one to see you
I might have pretended like I
He really loves warming up his mountain dew
He likes a real hot up his mountain dew.
He likes a real hot cup of mountain dew.
He invented code red.
Yeah.
Truly is a code red.
Put them on the fucker and rehab.
But yeah man, thanks for coming to the pod.
And we're also sons of Maryland.
And this house right now,
we're Baltimore boys.
You grew up mostly, was it Silver Spring or?
Yeah, I was born in Silver Spring.
Of course, Silver Spring.
And then my parents, somebody tried to break into the house,
I think like when I was like two or three, like that.
And my mom's dad had some bread at the time,
so he helped them get a house in Okten, Virginia.
Okay nice.
The Okten, Virginia, and then I was out there, you know?
Got you.
And like, it's wild though how many people are from like
Baltimore, Northern Virginia,
everything, like the DMV, absolutely.
We're doing our thing.
Yeah, and I feel like when I was coming up,
it wasn't, there wasn't that much going on.
Like, I remember, especially in comedy,
like we kind of clung to Pat and Oswald,
who really wasn't even from there.
I think he spent some time in Virginia,
but like, you know, and DC obviously has a ton of,
like, you know, Chappelle, Wanda Sykes, you know,
lot of Martin Lawrence, like there's like a ton of,
like black comics, but it's like, that know, a lot, Martin Lawrence, like there's like a ton of like black comics,
but it's like, that's DC.
And then so like, Baltimore really honestly
didn't have much going on.
Yeah, I remember the peaks, like the things
you were proud about was like Dunbar High School.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like Sam Kassel.
Sam Kassel came out of there.
Sam Kassel came out of there.
I'm one of the ugliest basketball players.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we have Sam Kassel.
We had, when I went there, fuck, who's
that kid? A kid who played at Dumbar ended up playing for the Rams for a while. He was
like a kick returner. We played against him. But yeah, there was nothing. No one really
was popping off like that. I remember two puck was like in school. That was like, that's
where you met Jada. Yeah. I was like, I was kind of proud of that. Yeah, yeah. The fucking two-pop went to an arts school in the DMV.
I did an after-school theater program when I was in middle school.
So, I share some education with two-pop there, but he was, that was me.
And the most trifling joint ever Jada you
I heard
That's trip tonight robin. I got us a little robin for just somehow
Spinning randomly being on like she was like the news person for Howard Stern
Yeah, and then like look at her now, dude wait. Wait. No no, no, I'm talking about Mike Tyson's ex. Oh, fuck Robin.
Robin Quivers as well.
Yeah, I'm fucking Robin Quivers.
I'm fucking Robin Quivers.
I'm fucking Robin Quivers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got a Quivers with Illis.
Yeah, I didn't know Robin Gibbons was from.
Oh, no, she not from, but I just mean like she's a stripling as J.
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
I'm like, there's two women that could like out Jiu Jitsu me. Yes, it's like those well. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. I'm like, there's two women that could like outjewdjitsu me.
Yes, it's like those two.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Jada would crush.
I mean, Will Smith had all the strength of Scientology behind him
and being the most famous guy in the world for two decades
and it was no match.
Yeah.
Like, oh, she just warmed down, but she's a power for it.
She's got the strength the Elron Hubbard.
Yeah, she overcame Elron.
Crush.
And then crushed himself trying to like, win back his own pride. I'm like, damn son.
I know. It really is. That's like, she beat science.
She did, did she did. She had her feet and levels are out of control.
If you put Jada in one of those like Scientology like measuring thing, it would just explode.
It's the anti-crisis.
She ruined our series.
Yeah, one of our perfectly manicured, closeted superstars.
She completely ruined him.
She took science down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I am mad at it, you know, like...
I honestly...
Science was up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Science blew a three-o-lead.
I hate it, I hate it, it had to be Will Smith,
but it is nice to see Scientology get their comeuppance.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I did see Wild Wild West in theaters.
You know, I own the big Willie style CD.
Yeah.
We played it at my 11th birthday party
at more a Crossman Recreation Center,
where me and I'll just shared pizza
Papa John's pizzas with extra garlic sauce even as fat children. We were like yeah, ma make sure that we each need our own garlic sauce
We're not splitting garlic sauce is around here
You're not gonna make a song like getting jiggy with it and not be punished
Like you will be punished one day.
There was a there was fucking
unleased getting jiggie with it.
There were been there was a big
come up and then it was so funny
because he also had just the two of us
with his son before.
Jaden who now is like, where is that guy?
Remember?
I know whose whose kid was that?
Who is the mom?
That's I don't know.
No, Jaden was the mom and he became the karate kid no no
He had a kid before jada. Oh, there's one before I think so cuz he had that kid that he did a the duet of just the two of us
Was with his son and recently I put it together. I was like wait that can't yeah, there we go
We'll smith son and just the two of us there we go. Well this very up. I didn't know there was another tray
Yeah, he's been he raised he's got a son named tray that no one knows about this is his adonis
Yeah, without push your teeth. This is a don this is what a don is life would be like without push it
The train
Yo is he on he's on getting shiggy with it. Oh my that's why that's why the university
raised him. He's on Miami. I love Miami by the way that was my shit when I was 10. Wow.
Yeah, I can't front. I had that album. Yeah. But like I can't like if I hear get and jiggie
with it now I'm like this is this hurts me.se me. But sometimes I'd be in a family mart in Taiwan.
I'm like, Gettin' Jiggy with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
That's like such a strange type of American music
that foreign people would run with.
Yes.
You know, outside of the cultural context,
they're like, yeah, throw this on.
You know, I've been mulls in Taiwan
where they're just playing full Marshall Mathers albums.
Like all the way through.
You guys have no idea what this is.
That's awesome.
Yeah, that's fucking sick.
So your family came to Taiwan first generation.
Yeah.
Yeah, same.
Yeah.
We got the whole, we got all that's in common in this room.
Everyone here's first gen, you know, Elders literally.
I'm literally not.
Well, I know, Elders is even more fresh off the boat
than us.
Oh, that can't be more than El Bany.
That's a few years old.
Oh, wow, yeah, yeah.
He spent a couple years in the motherland.
He spent, he was baptized in Greece.
They stopped over in Greece and then he came up.
He is the most foreign of all of us.
Are you one of those Albanian dudes
that pretends to be Greek?
No.
He couldn't ever.
That's good, I'm glad to play.
I'm glad to play, man. He couldn't ever. That's good, I'm black claying. I'm black claying it.
I am friends with like Greeks.
I guess like my closest friends that you are.
That's right, you are.
Yeah.
No, I don't claim it.
I feel like this is an Albanian cultural golden age.
Right, you got baby Rex, you got action bronze in.
Do a leap up.
Do a leap up.
Oh, now you're claiming do a leap up.
Do a leap up.
Now we're sticking together. Wait, you know there's a bit of a leap. Oh now you're claiming do a leap. Oh now we're sticking together
There's a big there was a big day technically she's a coast of our
Now that she's up I claim her yeah now you do even a couple years ago you were singing a different tune
Yeah, but that video where she was fucking on the mic stand that's one of the best videos in the universe
And then I'll just change this tune after that video came out. Yeah, the Albanians are up. What can I say?
It's more than it's a momentary blip. It's a momentary blip. It's coming down
Albanians got all that all the Greeks got right now is that Drake's on Greece
Yeah, that that came got right now is that Drake's on Greece. No, that came in one.
Which is hard.
That came in one.
We don't have much right now.
I'm trying to get the torch passed from Stamos and lead us to a next golden age.
I do like the Jack-Jer fucking wallpaper though for that Greece video.
They just had an hour fly around.
But they definitely jacked the aesthetic of Stavis.
Absolutely, absolutely.
We can't talk about it.
We're an open litigation.
Yeah, with October's very own, as we speak.
Stavis versus the owl.
I would love to take to fucking get his ass off court.
You and Stamos, bro, that would be dope.
We got to get, we got it.
That's the, that's the, I mean,
we got to get Janis on here too.
My boy Janis pop is, he's legit friends with Stamos.
We just got to get Janis on here,
but yeah, the goal, honestly, the, the like,
that's the boss of the first level of Stavis world
is when we get Stamos, then we can level up.
Then we, you know what, eldest, we're getting new studio
when we get Stamos on then we can level up. Then you know what, Eldis, we're getting new studio when we get stamos on this apartment.
Like that's that'll be our flagon final goal.
Yeah, we gotta orchestrate it.
Yeah, yeah.
See, that's what happens.
You just need a few people to pop culturally
and be like flaming Greek.
You know, it's like, we had everything everywhere
all at once and they were just like, we are so Asian.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're gonna ride this Asian wave to the ostrich. That's all you all gotta do, and were just like, we are so Asian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We are gonna, we are gonna ride this Asian wave
to the Oscars.
That's all you all gotta do.
I just like one or two and then just like,
yeah, our, that would be like if my big fat Greek wedding
won every Oscar.
Yeah.
That's essentially the same thing.
Yeah.
I will say everything everyone wants,
bit of a better movie, but it's close.
Teddy Santis is popping, M.A. you and Teddy,
you know, like, do you just, you guys need one more leg of the Greek revolution. We dois is hopping, M.A. You and Teddy, you know, like,
do you guys need one more leg of the Greek Revolutions?
We do need a hot lady there, everybody wants to fuck.
Yes.
You know, that-
You need a Greek chicken euphoria.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
With sideburns, with awesome tits, but like really,
like a mustache you can see, sideburns that go down.
It's real talent for Harold.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would love that.
We do need to get that guy.
Get that fucking dude, which is name
who makes every actress take her tits out too much.
Barry Levinson's actually from Baltimore.
From Baltimore.
Oh, he's from Baltimore.
Barry Levinson's from Baltimore.
Oh, wow.
But he's kids probably like a, you know, like a,
from LA.
From LA, you know.
Yeah, that article came out was hilarious. Where it's like, they don't know what from LA from LA. Yeah. Yeah that that
Article came out was hilarious where it's like they don't know what the fuck they're doing with that show
Yeah, the wait yeah
Sounds like a fun set to be on
Yeah, it really sounds like they went throwback with how Hollywood was right sounds like it's like Hollywood from the 20s
Method acting yeah
Yes, the weekends really getting in character
is a as the proprietor of a sex cult. Um, you know, people write those articles to be like,
yeah, this shows it's a disaster. Like, I'm not going to watch them. This just makes me
want to watch more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you tell me like, you know, Brian DePaul,
or like Francis Ford Coppola is taking years to make a film, I cannot wait.
I have to see it.
It's either gonna be sick or it's gonna be a train wreck
and this feel, I don't wanna jinx it.
It feels like it's gonna be kind of fucking weird,
but we'll see you.
Either way, I'm tuning in, I don't have to watch.
I actually want Shia LaBuff.
Oh, he's got Shia in the list.
It's Shia, like there was some kind of,
like Shia LaBuff is in this film.
I think it's called like metropolis or something really
Oh, this is this is a I think it's Francis Ford Copeland. I'm not sure we can check the internet
Yeah, I think it's I think you're saying it co-plot. You're saying it that does that is ringing some bells
I and I'm just like you wait there's over budget film. There's Francis Ford Copeland or silence
But like this is gonna get hot. It's gonna be fucking awesome. Yeah, Megalopolis.
Megalopolis, I have heard of this.
This is gonna be awesome.
Tallya Shires it.
Oh my God, this is awesome.
Like they have all these orange.
They have all these.
A hundred million dollar epic feature.
They want you to be like, it's burning in flames.
I'm like, no, this is gonna be great.
This is gonna be great.
Adam Driver, Forrest Wittaker, Natalie Mayer, John Voight.
Lawrence Fishburn and tally is shy
Jason Schwartzman. Oh, this that's very interesting. If this is a shit show. I'm buying all the rural season Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm bringing a year-old. I'm watching. I do love when something is fucking out of country like yeah
Cuz it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be fucking horrible. Yeah. Hey, what are you gonna do? Even though it like sometimes the best movies
Is like so horrible that I'm like wow
Oh, yeah, wow. I just saw the seventh wonder of the world. It's like this that bad
Is it all right, we gotta put on my favorite I do there's a couple one of my favorite movies in terms of the
So out of control this rules is um
This is a really good one if you've ever seen seen Ricochet, the Denzel movie? No.
It's Denzel.
It's Denzel and it's um, fuck.
Who's a John Lithgaon?
John Lithgaon?
I don't know.
And he is the most unhinged dude in the movie.
It's so sick.
It's incredible.
I love shit like that.
It makes no sense.
Each Lithgaon is out of control.
You get like Denzel who's still awesome,
but like it's cool to see him as young Denzel
figuring it out.
Perfect.
I know a couple other good ones.
A lot of like late period Russell Crowe, he has that one.
Here's the road race movie, you've seen that one.
You didn't see that one.
He's like, his early shit like,
romper stompers, crazy.
Okay, I haven't seen that one.
Yeah, he's like an Australian neo-Nazi, like bad guy, it haven't seen that one. Yeah, it's he's like a Australian neo-nazi like bad guy.
It was like his breaking roll. Oh, crazy crazy shit. Sick. You gotta watch. I do love I do love
a just dumb ass movie and just that's your day is watching something really fucking stupid. Yeah, like
cool films. Yeah, like that that's really what I like watching the most like I watch this movie like
cockfighter. No, it doesn't talk the whole time and it's just like chickens and roosters fighting
And it's like this guy didn't say anything because like he had a like you know like a bad relationship break up
Think yet this movie cockfighter is out of control. That's awesome
Throw it on the throw on the list Elders you will you will like this film. I will watch Cockfighter.
Great name.
That's, so that's sick man.
So you come over here, fresh off the, you know,
literally fresh off the boat with the family.
And then you guys are in Virginia,
and your family's just foreign as hell.
Yeah, my mom and dad came to,
they went to the universe, my mom went to the university
in Maryland. Okay.
My dad was at the community
That's right that we talked about this you were conceived and in college part
I was considering college
Go Terbs your story your story starts where I'll just got jacked off for the first time
Well free-basing follows you everywhere
I
Free-basing follows you everywhere
My dad was always like don't do coke just randomly would just turn to me like in the middle of the day Hey, don't do coke. I'm like 14. Yeah, let my aside from coke
The first big thing he learned in America, right right right right now
He met my mom at a house party in in college park and my mom didn't invite him because he went to the community college.
But he-
So part dick.
Yeah, he-
Bro-
Bro-
Bro-dick.
Bro-dumb dick.
Yeah.
But he had heard there was like, you know, a lot of moisture at this party.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's like, what are you doing here?
And he had-
Oh, dad, he goes, I'm here to dance with you.
Wow.
And then, you know, he wrapped her like a gyro.
No, he did.
That's the, and then I popped up.
The rest is history.
Yeah, it was, that was it.
Yeah.
That was it.
And I was like, there's photos of me with them in college, and I'm getting passed around
like a hot tub.
That's awesome.
It's wild, and I was a college baby.
That's so funny.
I had no chance.
That was, yeah, you were fucked.
That is fun though, and someone has has a kid and you're like smoking
We you're like playing video games you're holding someone's fucking kid
Dude one of my only childhood memories is I remember they had this party with their college friends and somebody had a pool
And I would just remember being like whoa, this is a giant pool. Yeah
My dad goes all right. We're gonna play a game
You're not gonna you it's gonna take three hours
I'm like what game and I like, maybe six at the time.
And he's like, all right, there's a hole in this watermelon.
Cover the hole and float in the water.
And I just floated, covering the hole in this watermelon
for three hours.
And he's like, yo, give me the watermelon.
And I remember, I gave him the watermelon.
He cut it open and they were spiked.
And they were all eating spiked watermelon.
I was just fucking floating with this fucking watermelon
in the pool forever.
Just so he could hang out.
Yeah.
Like, this just so you would keep you like,
no, this is really important,
Eddie.
Yeah.
You have to cover the, and you know what,
he did trust you, because of that little hand slips.
Yeah.
There's spiked watermelon full of chlorine water.
Yeah, he knew.
I was like a responsible kid.
You know, you're a responsible kid.
That's what I told you to do some of you do it.
But then it kind of fucked me because I was like, I keep. You're a responsible kid. I told you to do some of you do it, but then it kind of fucked me because I was like,
you know, I keep getting tricked, man.
Yeah.
I'm so earnest about this, you're fucking dickhead.
And there was no other kids either, right?
It was just college kids.
Yeah.
And so your parents came here to go to school?
So my dad's brother was a very like accomplished engineer.
Okay. So he, I think, was the architect on a couple major bridges So my dad's brother was a very like accomplished engineer.
So he, I think, was the architect
on a couple major bridges in the DMV.
And because he did that good work,
then the rest of the family was able to come through.
And my dad came and he was like a waiter at a restaurant,
doing community college, but then he knocked up.
My mom and mom's dad had a furniture store
that my dad started working at the furniture store and he was a hustler
It was like once you let my dad in yeah, it's a wrap. He's like a vampire
He's a van he's one of your business. Once you invite him in he's taking over the whole place now his business
So did they get married or were like, right after they got knocked up or was it?
Yeah, they got married and it was, you know,
it was, that's when I realized that like,
just because you're married doesn't mean you're in love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That must have been fucking young, right?
You're very young.
Like in their 20s, early 20s.
I think my mom was 21 or 22.
It might have been 21 and then my dad I think was like 26
or 27.
Okay, nice. Oh yeah. Yeah, something around.
35, 42.
He had to go to the army so he was older.
He went to the army in Taiwan and then he like came over here.
That's how gracious to everyone has compulsory military service.
Yeah.
Did you get drafted by the by the Taiwanese army?
No, because I waited till I was past. I think the age of like, I think past 36 then you
can get citizenship and you're like two old people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they drafted me in the Greek army.
What?
And I was just like, I live in America, I'm not coming.
That's correct.
And I had to like sign a paperwork and if I stay in Greece longer than three months, they
will arrest me and take me to the army. Oh. Oh.
Luckily I've only been there, you know,
like a couple of two, three weeks.
But I can't be there three consecutive months
or they, I will straight up,
or three months in a year, not even consecutive,
or they will,
is there an age you can get to
where they no longer will just like snatch you for the army?
Yeah, I think there's probably something,
I think it's probably mid 30 something like that.
But it's also like, I'm like, you got fluffy?
Yeah, dude, I mean, look at me.
There's like eight things.
I got that.
There's probably 15 things that just qualify.
You can't fucking serve.
Yeah.
You can't fucking live special.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm doing podcasts.
Yeah.
Stavis in the mess hall, it's that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be kind of sick.
Do the radio show.
Oh, okay. So that's, that's, and so were their friends all like, That would be kind of sick, do the radio show.
Okay, so that's, and so were there friends all,
like was everybody Asian, cause I remember Chinese time.
Everyone's shiny in Taiwanese, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They didn't have no other, like I really didn't see
white people till I like went to school.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cause we had such a big family, like my brothers got,
my dad's got five brothers and sisters,
my mom has five brothers and sisters, my mom has
five brothers and sisters. They all had cousins. We were like all at each other's houses
all the time. But when I went to school, like the DMV's very diverse. So I saw all types
of kids, you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. My parents at the same thing were
all their friend group, especially Greek town at the time was like, so it was truly Greek.
Like, this is the 80, before we were born, they had like friends, they had like a Greek
theater group where they would put on plays in Greek and enough people, Greek people
were lived in the neighborhood that they would like, they would like sell tickets and like
people would come.
So it's like, all their, like everything was insular,
all the like nightclubs they would go to was Greek.
They would go to Greek restaurants.
It's so interesting how like you can really maintain that.
And I assume probably Asian, like there's such
bigger populations of like Chinese and Taiwanese people
where that's probably still going on today.
Greeks have kind of fallen to the wayside.
The communities like splintered.
Certainly that wasn't what I grew up in.
By the time I was around, I was like,
Greek town, most people had left.
Baltimore City was a fucking mess.
But it is that always, I always love going somewhere
and being like this, you might as well be
in a different country.
Like I love going to flushing.
I love going to like, you know, I mean,
a story is kind of fun because it's a bunch of different places,
but like, just feeling like this is,
this is just like, you could, if you kidnap someone,
put them in a fucking trunk and drove them
for 14 hours and made like, airplane noises,
and you dump them in flushing,
it would take them a while to realize, you know what I mean?
Like, I like this.
If they never seen flushing, they'd be like,
I might be in Taipei.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Somebody sold my kidney last night.
Yeah, I love that shit, dude.
I love feeling like, well, where the fuck am I right now?
Yeah, it's a fucking sick feeling.
No, and the thing is, is like, with, you know,
my wife is Greek, so it's really interesting to me
because I think I took Greek culture for granted.
I was always just like, I, y'all are like Mediterranean, but you know how Italians also,
they don't have their neighborhoods as tight as they used to be.
Right, of course.
And then Italian culture became almost just absorbed into dominant American culture.
Sure, for sure.
And I feel America really claims it because it was like Italian was the popular culture of the 70s.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like early 80s and it became like,
it became a cool like cultural thing.
Like the food, the like, once, honestly,
I mean, I do think it was mafia movies made it cool
and then especially with the sopranos,
like, as it was dying down, the sopranos came out
and made it like, I mean, Scorsese, obviously,
but it was like this perfect thing
where it was like, Stallone, other Scientologists,
Travolta, you know what I mean?
Like, like, what you're so right,
where it was like Italian just became like,
I mean, they all just became very absorbed
into like American culture.
It's like black culture in the 90s.
It was 70s Italian culture.
It was the culture to like be a fan of.
And I think with Greek culture, what's interesting is it's so easy as an American to take it for granted.
Because like if you look at diners, right? That's Greek. That's a Greek restaurant. Absolutely.
The Avgolomono. Avgolomono baby. Yeah, absolutely. That's in every diner.
That's Greek food.
The Euro is everywhere.
The spinach pie, like everyone sells a spinach pie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the original beef patty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Until I was with the Greek person,
I didn't put, like I knew it was Greek,
but I didn't put together that this was a foreign thing.
Right.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's true, because I think we are so under the radar
and that there's not, statistically, not that many of us.
Right.
There's not that many Greek people.
And it's like the thing that happens to every white ethnicity
after a generation or two, you completely,
because there's no visual markers to tell you this person
is not the same as most culture like the
head you know the the dominant culture most Greek people within two three four
generations forget it they're just like regular ass white people yeah so it's
like this thing where it's like there's fewer Greek people coming over the
culture gets absorbed in these little ways and the people that are the Greek
people that are here don't have any kind of desire to keep it up.
Because it's a lot of work and it just disappears every generation.
It sucks, honestly, but...
It sucks. It's a cycle, though, because as immigrants, we're all here, right?
And we band together so that we can survive.
It's like a real survival technique, almost a defense mechanism to be like,
yo, stick to your community, keep your money in the community.
And like, we're all gonna help each other and that's the deal.
But then usually there's a couple people that are like,
they pop.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, wait, I can get money outside the community.
Right, right, right, right.
People outside wanna come to this restaurant.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh shit, let's open it up.
And then the other homies that are in the neighborhood
selling, you know, Greek culture,
or say Chinese culture,
they may not be up to that dude standard.
And they're gonna get washed out through gentrification.
And then you're in a conundrum.
Of course.
But that is the natural cycle.
We all stick to this deal because it's beneficial
until it doesn't become beneficial.
Right, right, right. And then people are you fuck this shit. Until so you can catch a honky's check. We all stick to this deal because it's beneficial until it doesn't become beneficial.
And then people are you fuck this shit.
Until so you can cash a honky's check.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's kind of sad, but it's also kind of like the natural order.
And that's the thing about American cultures
that it does become this like a mishmash over time
where different elements of shit is like gets absorbed.
Yeah, it is really interesting. I mean, Greek shit is like,
it's always just like a fun little thing.
I mean, it certainly does feel like more,
more and more like Asian cultures becoming mainstream.
I mean, you did, I mean, there does definitely feel like the,
it's not just the like representation shit.
It's like, you know, all this shit that rules, right?
Like everything everywhere I want, it's like, like Michelle Yo, it's like all this shit that rules, right? Like everything everywhere at once, it's like,
like Michelle Yo, it was like,
she's fucking incredible.
The movies are incredible.
I love all the Hong Kong,
like the martial arts movies,
the police story movies,
the like all that shit,
it's like, that stuff has kind of,
without even realizing it, that's in the culture
because of like, you know, crouching tiger
and it's like, once like, who's the director
who they did fuck, who they brought over,
like do face off and like,
Oh, Ang Lee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, not Ang Lee, but John Wood.
John Wood, John Wood, John Wood.
John Wood, and Ang Lee did crouching tiger.
Exactly, exactly.
It's like, once you kind of, those guys get imported
and it's like, it does kind of sneak in and it does feel that crouching to Jack. Exactly, exactly. Once you kind of, those guys get imported,
and it's like, it does kind of sneak in,
and it does feel that way,
but it's like, you don't really get credit, I guess,
and it does feel like people start different,
like groups are starting to actually get credit,
you know, where it's like.
I mean, you guys actually have really good Greek directors.
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Fuck what the fuck he was the dude that did the lobster?
Pelicanos lobster. Yeah, the lobster is
Yourness it's always Lanzimos. Yeah, and then I think the other guy's name is
Pelicanos The guy did Mandy. Yeah, yeah, and then I think there's also a Greek film called like dog teeth or dogs. Yeah dog tooth
That movie's crazy. Yeah, I watch that movie too and it's just goes to show you like every country has really talented people for sure
Dude, I you know, right. There's like a little bit of a Greek. There's like a little bit of a Greek
like film resurgence kind of happening. Yeah.
It's interesting.
And to me it's like, it's not, like right now there's like a big Asian moment, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think it's necessary that like we're better or anything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's more that like Hollywood identified that there is a market.
Yeah.
And like, for sure, it's economics for sure.
It's economics for sure.
But it's the shit that, it's also like,
while you get ignored long enough,
you're like, all right, well, I'll just make my own cool shit
here by myself.
And by the time people are paying attention,
it's like, oh, there's so much shit to steal, right?
There's so much shit to like, to sell to a mass audience.
So it's like, that's why I think the shit is ready to go.
Like, there's so much, so many talented, you know,
people, so many like good actors, you know, all this kind of shit. So, you know, it's ready, you're ready to go. Like there's so much, so many talented, you know, people, so many like good actors, you know, all this kind of shit. So, you know, it's, it's ready. You're
ready to go.
It is. I think you all are on the cusp, you know. There's not that enough of us. It's
a two.
You got the news. You and I, these guys, the numbers on us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's true because everyone wanted to get into the Chinese market. You know, everyone
wants that market, everyone wants that dollar,
and then one of the interesting things they found out
on Fresh Off The Boat was like, wait,
black and Latino audiences are really tuning in
for like immigrant shows like Fresh Off The Boat,
and they were like, whoa, we can like start to endear ourselves
to an Asian audience, but it also brings along other people,
boom, and I think every culture should, like, like, they can think about it. And it's just about letting people know, like,
there's money to be made in my community.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And it translates. I do think the immigrant story translates
to everyone because it's like everyone gets being a fucking fish out of water. Even people
that are not immigrants, it's an interesting story and you see it from a different group's perspective.
You're almost like the control group for it.
So, you know, it'll be, you know, hopefully.
When I was young, I was like foolish and was just like,
yo, if you're the most skilled and you're the best
and you're the most truthful, you do the best,
you're gonna get on and like, eventually you may,
but you also may end up Bernie Sanders.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Just the objectively best guy that no one gives a fuck about.
No, and I just, I always watch fucking Godfather too, and Johnny,
all of a sudden, I'm in Roth's here because he made his partner's money.
Yeah, yeah.
If people can break bread off your back,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're gonna make sure you're standing.
That's all, that's truly, yeah, you're so right.
And it's like not to, not to That'll be like yeah and also in
In casino why does why is the only one who survives Robert the Nero because Ace Rothstein makes people money
And it is it really does unfortunately come down to that and it's like if you realize that and it's like all right
That's just how it is not do whatever the fuck you want. It's pretty sick
Yeah, just keep doing it and like when you have the opportunity, make it cool.
I'm definitely trying to come up with some like
Greek town stories and some Baltimore Greek stories
and all that kinda stuff, but that's in the future.
We got a specialty shoot, we got a movie to shoot,
we got some shit to do.
I would love to do Greek town.
Yeah, you heard it here first.
I'm the number one fucking stop fan.
We definitely did have.
You were talking about like just nutting and basketball jerseys
I was wanting to ask
authentic or the like
Cuz like nothing I think holes in them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Nothing would probably hold up better to washing yeah, but we didn't have that kind of a budget. Yeah
Definitely the cheap ones from fucking champsports.
Yeah, the plastic one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, you got the Del Curry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't want to ask since we're talking,
you said your girl's Greek, does it feel good knowing
that you're the rare Asian guy white girl?
Because I feel like when you see a wazion,
it's always some skinny fucked up white guy
that's like, that's is straight up fetish.
You know what I mean?
Every like, every like, very foreign Chinese or Korean or Japanese woman that you see with
like, either her fat is shit, much older husband or like a tall skinny fucked up like anime fan.
Yeah, you must be nice from, like, all street white dude with the Asian girl
and you're like, yo, he's having her duty ceremony. For sure. Like the race the red lantern.
But no, like it's you know, my thing was just like I grew up in Florida. Okay. And like
the other Asian girl that was in my class, my mom gave my
dog to my mom took my dog gizmo and gave it to pass on the obvious joke there. Yeah. I'm
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eight people all with different requirements and keep them all together? We looked at some hotels,
but then it was obvious, get an Airbnb. My mom and
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part of the city with woods and walking trails all around. The Airbnb also included a huge
kitchen where we all got together the day after the wedding for a big family meal. This
is a cherished memory for my family and me. And whenever I drive by that location, it always makes me smile.
Not long ago, my mum and I stopped by that area to walk around.
And remember, one of the most special times for my family,
whether you're traveling with friends or with family
for a big wedding or justification, get an Airbnb. Mom gave the dog and she made fucking Mongolian dog. It was just like, there was, there was, I remember two fly Asian girls in my school.
One was Kathy and one was Joyce.
And like Kathy was my family friend's daughter and she was older than me.
So it was like outer range.
Of course. Joyce was like even more fly and also older out of my range. But there was
a lot of, there was a lot of white girls, there was a lot of Latino girls, Middle Eastern.
So I was always just like talking to girls that were non-Asian. And then I had, you know, I ended up my first,
well, my first girlfriend was white,
but then my second one that was a seven year relationship
was a Taiwanese girl.
Oh, shit, okay.
And like a lot of you little know about it,
and a lot of my friends will roast me,
like they're like, yo, you like Kanye, man.
You like her actual like,
and not for nothing, I think she lives in a story.
Oh, wow.
Right.
Nice.
You know, she was a great woman.
Yeah.
She was a great woman.
It was just like our paths were divergent.
Sure.
Like straight up and down.
And like I dated a lot of Asian women,
not to be like my body count crazy.
Nice.
Like, you know, like,
Elliot didn't get in trouble.
No, no. My voice getting Chinese push you around here
The tour of cyan
They're all wonderful
You know what I think it is is and I will just speak from my own experience
is the women that I dated were always in America.
Like I do think a lot of Asian Americans
have similar damage, which is like,
our identity as Asian Americans
isn't a reaction to what white people think of us.
Interesting, yeah.
And I felt like a lot of the girls were like,
oh, what you're doing is not Asian. And I'm like, not Asian American to you. Yeah. Interesting, yeah. And I felt like a lot of the girls were like, oh, what you're doing is not Asian.
And I'm like, not Asian American to you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because most of them only had Asian friends.
Right.
And I would bring them to hang out with my other friends.
And it was always a little bit awkward.
Yeah.
And then I'd hang with their friends.
And it was just, it felt like much more conservative.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, yo, I fuck with you.
You all agree.
Yeah.
I really love my culture.
I speak the language.
I cook the food.
I celebrate every holiday.
But I will say that my life would not
be full without the influence and participation
in other culture.
Of course, for sure.
And then also, I talked to my girls my girls OBGYN and he's like,
oh, you got an interracial baby,
you avoid a lot of genetic issues.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you know, Chinese, we just keep breathing,
like I did 23 of me, she was 99.9% Chinese.
Yeah, he's fucking, all his genes are from like a
five square mile radius in Albania.
My sister, my sister did it, it was like 99.3% like Southeast European,
wow honor.
You always bring a great mother
as a same palm reader.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I fucking love it.
But no, and I was just like,
you know, like genetic diversity is ill.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I definitely, you know,
definitely every immigrant dude will say exactly
what you said to me and I get it. And I never get just, you know, definitely every immigrant dude will say exactly what you said to me and I get it.
And I never get, just, you know, I hit a lick, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I love it.
I do, I literally think, because every time it's true,
like, it's not that you hit a lick,
it's like nice to see two people
that like just are breaking that weird stereotype,
because it's like, it is fucked,
like it really makes me,
like no other, like interracial kind of couple,
is it like, when you start with a default,
you're like something fucked up is going on here,
more so than white guy, Asian girl.
Yeah.
You're like, I am assuming something is fucked up here.
Yeah, most Asian dudes is like,
it's, they're, they're serving cock,
they're serving inuck. They're serving in sale.
And thank God we got some dude like Steven Yuan,
just like, wine, beef.
But then even he kind of gets cucked in that show.
Yeah, I haven't seen it yet.
I'm excited for it.
Oh, my bad, yeah, spoiler.
But, you know, blinded, I'll put it together.
But there's some dudes rapping.
But my thing is, I really had to be honest. I didn't think about it. I met my girl at a time where I was like, there's some dudes rapping, but like, my thing is, you know, I really, I had to be honest,
I didn't think about it.
I met my girl at a time where I was pretty just
down on romance.
Like, fuck me, this shit is hard.
And even now, like, we're married,
she genuinely hates me three and a half days out of the end.
And, but I'm just like, you know, this is as good
as it's ever gonna be, you're my person.
I think what we don't know as young men is like
Every relationship is hard. Yeah, we watch all these fucking movies. Everyone tells you oh the one the one and like
I feel like with a lot of men until you are married and you're playing the same game
Yeah, your friends don't actually tell you what's going on in their relationships. They keep it copicetic
Yeah, but now once I joined the club my girls pregnant don't actually tell you what's going on in their relationships. They keep it copacetic.
But now, once I joined the club, my girl's pregnant.
I'm married.
Now my married homies is like, you know, welcome to the playoff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's playing playoff ball with you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's playing defense.
Anyone can put up 30 on a Wednesday,
random Wednesday in Detroit,
when the other team was off a back-to-back.
But this is the high, this is the high stakes baby.
Yeah, it's like she's tied to you.
She can't leave you.
She can't go get some strange dick on Tuesday night anymore.
She's gonna be mad at you.
Three and a half days out of the week.
Cause that's three and a half days.
She could have been getting some other dick talk to somebody.
Maybe not funnier, but as funny or whatever.
And it's just like, I'm there sitting like chopped liver and I'm but it's cool
Mod like just let me have it. Yeah, whatever you gotta get out just get it out and we'll be cool the another three and a half
You know, but I couldn't do with nobody but her. Yeah, she really like from the moment I met her
I was like you are the funniest person. I know that's awesome. Just point blank period off that
I was like you funny your foot game is crazy. Yeah, yeah, a feet guy. Yo, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, You know eldest I don't think you have it in you either not really but I could see the appeal of what you're describing
Yeah, and listen, I'm not saying I'm above putting the toe in my mouth every once in a while
But you know my dick doesn't get that hard from it. It's just more of a variety play
But you know, I'm telling I'm in a fashion right especially these New York joints like very fashionable cover everything up
Like this is like anti Miami. I'm Miami. You go outside. They're serving titty-ass
You may see some vagina in the front.
Great, like my kind of place.
It's a country buffet.
It's like you see the food.
New York women, it's like, yo, it's like a tasting menu.
It's true.
They're gonna give you a little portion.
You don't know what the hell is going on,
but the thing that like women in New York do,
I feel with their fits is they do serve foot.
Ah, I'm like, I'm like, hmm, you know what?
To the average viewer, to the not sick man.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
It looks like you're being stingy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's no tinny, there's not.
But look at, look at the foot, okay, you did a foot look.
They might also might be more onto something, right?
Because I feel like New York you get real high level sugar babies here.
So they know the real high level sugar babies here.
So they know the real freaks are foot guys.
Yeah.
A titty guy, I'm a titty guy, right?
Yeah.
We're the most basic base layer.
Yeah.
I'm not, I'm just not like,
I could never see myself being in a prolonged
sugar baby relationship.
I just like to look at some tits, suck on some titties.
I wanna be with someone whose titties are out,
who's gonna put them in my mouth for free.
And yeah, I'll get you some stuff afterwards,
but that's, I'm not really like, I'm a bummer,
I'm like a caveman, right?
Whereas like a foot guy, there's so many,
so many things have to go from dick to brain
and have feet to be the thing that,
you know what I mean?
Titty guys, it's brain to dick immediately.
But foot guys, it's like a lot.
It has to really shake around your noggin for a while.
We've outsmarted ourselves.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've really outsmarted.
Something sure is circuited.
But I really feel like sex is like cuisine, right?
Like when you're first introduced to a cuisine,
you're like, what's the fried chicken on your menu?
What's the steak on your menu? That's, that to me is like you're like, yeah, what's the fried chicken on your menu? What's the steak on your menu?
That's, that to me is like pussy.
Yeah, okay, okay.
And at first you want it like.
Nice fatty cut.
Yeah, nice fatty cut.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me get the ribeye or something like that.
I still order a ribeye everywhere I go.
Yeah.
And you're like filet mignon, you know, like some young dude,
I remember a young dude's,
oh, she's got a hairy pussy, you know.
I'm like, bro, after you've had, you know, a little bit,
you're like, you know what?
Let me, how about the hanger steak?
Sure, how about that?
Let's try some interesting cuts.
Something must be.
Let me ask the butcher, would he recommend?
Yeah, you got anything with a lot of ligaments attached.
Yeah.
And that's like, hairy box.
You know how hard, when I see hairy bottom,
I'm just like, oh, just amazing.
Well, you are married to a Greek woman
I'm just like yo, let's go. Yeah
Then it's like you get an ass and then sure and then eventually you make it down to the foot
I'm still not there, but I'll let you know what it happens. I'm chewing on my wife's ear
my wife's ear. I mean, you're so hot. I love my wife. Yeah, that's it. But I love her. Yeah. That's cute, man. I'm happy for you. Yeah. What I like about that style fit, too, is
you'll get some sneaky big titties with with the fashion fit. Oh, you're like, we're like,
where did those things come from? Yeah. That's an awesome feeling. That is great. So, you know,
who knows? If you got some sneaky big tits, holler at me. I need a wife for the for the summer.
I'm gonna check in with you in three years. Okay. I swear to God, I feel like you're just gonna be sucking toe.
Like crawl fish. Put it on the calendar.
Yeah, I'll be cracking them open. Yeah. Like I'm at a fucking fish ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll be cracking them open. Yeah, like I'm at a fucking fish ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Fuck it dude. Well, there's so much that I want to talk about but I think we gotta take some questions here right?
Yeah, how are we looking? Yeah, let's take some questions, but there's so you know
Restaurants shit more immigrant shit, but we'll figure it out. Make Greek town. Why more yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. StarV baby. What's up, man? You know, I hope you're doing all right. Always big fan. Lots of love. Listen, man.
I need to get my fucking mom into therapy and I have been struggling with this for like five years now.
She says she's fine. She says she's got everything under control. She went to therapy for ten years. She got those tools, but clearly the dysfunction
in her head and within the nuclear family starting to see if I'm to her
friendship. More importantly, she just lost her brother. She's like her whole
family. Her mom, her dad, her brother, all dead. And now things are just getting
fucking worse. And I need some help. I need some help trying to get this woman to go and sit in the fucking room and talk
about her problems man let me know what you think let me know what I should do
man lots of love man lots of love okay you know this is tough I mean look I I
I don't know I did get my entire family minus my father obviously into
into therapy by kind of I went to therapy I did get my entire family, minus my father obviously into therapy.
By kind of, I went to therapy,
I started dealing with our family issues
like a fucking adult and actually having conversations
instead of people getting mad at each other
and fist fighting about it.
And I think they saw that it worked for me and they did it.
Our friend here seems like he's in a different situation
where it's like his mom's already been to therapy, right?
And now she's dealing with like,
trauma, like a, like a loss, which is a different thing.
And it sounds a little bit like,
you don't wanna deal with your mom
and you wanna farmer out to a therapist a little bit.
You know?
Like, it sounds, maybe I don't mean, you know,
I'm getting that vibe a little bit.
Cause look, I'm the biggest therapy proponent in the world,
but there's also other shit
that can make somebody feel better, right?
And it's like, she's obviously sad,
and maybe she needs to at least see a therapist for like,
law, like a lost therapist or like someone who specializes
in that maybe short term.
But you might just need to support her a little bit, man,
because there's a lot of different ways
that people can like feel better. And especially, because there's a lot of different ways that people can feel better.
And especially somebody who's had a history of therapy, I don't know.
I don't know. Anybody in your family therapy?
You know, I've been trying it. I do therapy.
I've been doing a lot. I've been doing a lot of therapy since around 2015.
Okay.
And it changed my life, man.
Yeah.
I really couldn't get out of my head. I didn't know why things were making me upset. I
couldn't really
Tell that like in front of every single person was my parents, right? Like when I was getting
A lot of shit about things and beefing was like really my parents that I was beefing
Without the person standing in front of me. Yeah, and so
You know, and I've been trying to get my mom for a while,
she won't go because she sees it as like insulting.
Right.
And it's like, I'm giving up.
I don't need that help.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not crazy.
Yeah, and she's just like, this is just how family is.
And I'm like, it's just because our culture isn't open to it.
Yeah.
But she'll talk to any fortune teller.
She'll talk to any phone-sweat person.
And I'm just like, I'm a phoenixway person.
And I'm just like, I just need to find a Chinese therapist
who lies and says she's a fortune teller.
Yeah, put a turban on a Chinese lady.
And be like, yeah, no, she's got a really interesting method
where you talked her for 40 minutes.
And then she tells you her, your fortune.
Yeah, she talks to ghosts.
My mom would talk to a ghost before a therapist.
But for homey here, I think I do feel you,
because her mom has been going to therapy for years.
It seems like he has an issue with her.
Right?
And is she saying she's not going back to therapy now?
Right, she used to be going to therapy.
She went therapy for a decade, she said.
Yeah, I mean, also they could do it together.
That's the type of thing, too too that I would do with my mother.
You know, like she just moved here from China,
so I'm giving her a couple months,
but it's definitely something I would do.
Like maybe she moved back, she went,
she went to China and then came back.
Yeah, she came back and moved back to LA
and you know, like we're having a kid,
so she wanna be close.
But I mean, I may take my mom for a spa day
and then be like, oh look, a couple's therapies down,
down, down, you know, like just me and my mom.
So I think I would do something like that.
Yeah, that's a good point about him
having something with his mom.
It's like, you wanna get your mom in a therapy?
Are you in therapy?
Let's talk, let's start there.
Did he say he is?
Don't respect him for asking.
For sure.
Much respect to this dude.
And look dude, here's the thing,
and I mean, I get it, don't get me wrong,
I'm not shitting on you and being like,
you need to support your mom, I get it too.
I go visit my family for like three weeks, every couple,
like I probably do like almost a month long stint
in Baltimore twice a year just to be around everyone.
And by the end of that third week,
I am ready to be here.
I'll tell you that much.
So I do get it.
I get with like, at a certain point,
there's only so much we can do with our family
and you can't be her like constant thing.
But it's like, yeah, can you support her in some ways?
At least right now when she's dealing with grief, right?
And I like the idea of going with going together with her
and like maybe especially when it's a grief thing.
But it's like, what are you trying to get figured out?
Because if it's like, is there something she has to work through?
Or you just want her to go to therapy?
And definitely is there a specific problem?
Is it just, because look, this is a high stress situation
for you too, right?
You lost an uncle, your mom is like,
your mom is completely feeling alone,
you're probably feeling the stress of that.
And I've been there, I've been where you are,
where I actually did get my mom to therapy.
And then for a year, she didn't really do shit.
It was like, I was like, what the fuck, what did I,
and I was feeling like, come on to the therapist,
like, come on, bitch, fix her.
I don't wanna have to deal with this.
Yeah.
And it's like, but that's the hard reality is like, and don't get me wrong, it took my mom a while, but a lot of those lessons
finally did sink in and I feel and I'm, you know, I'm trying to support her now as much as
I can. So I would just identify that man. I mean, like maybe go with her, but it's like,
what are you trying to figure out? If you're just trying to get her to work through this grief,
that's, I think that's maybe a start and maybe get her back in therapy.
But if you can support her in other ways,
see that she's happy in other ways,
like, it feels like we're missing
a little bit of this picture, right?
Is this feel a little vague?
Yeah, because I was gonna say like,
you know, my mom had that like,
just natural immigrant resistance to therapy too.
Like therapies are like crazy people
or if you got like something to assure you. That's are like crazy people or because you're like, something that's how like immigrants
like think about it.
And I think like, I never,
she like never went to therapy,
but you sort of need,
you know, when there's that natural existence,
you kind of have to like lead by example.
So start going to therapy yourself and tell your mom,
like, oh yeah, I've been going to therapy
or you know, just talk about like, Some of the like principles you're like grappling with or even just like talking about like mindfulness shit like, you know
Just trying to really like calm myself think not worry about things that are like outside of my control and just like, you know
Think about goals or whatever whatever it is and I think like
Sort of trying to lead by example,
and like bringing her into what you're doing
is like a good start.
But yeah, for her too, it's like,
if she did therapy for 10 years,
it's not like she thinks therapy is bullshit or something.
And there's also a reason she stopped
if she did it for 10 years.
So like, there's a little more to the picture, I think.
Yeah, and it seems like she's had a lot of loss, right?
Like I noticed, whether it's my she's had a lot of loss. Yeah. Right?
Like I noticed whether it's my mother or other people
that I know is, you know, you go to therapy
looking for help or a resolution.
The therapy's not gonna cure you.
Like my therapist always says, you do the work.
Right, right, right.
You have to do the work.
Kinda just makes you aware.
It makes you aware of your assignment
and then you gotta work on it.
But it feels like when people have a full rich life
They're usually okay
Hobbies friends community. It seems like she's had a lot a lot of loss
Maybe she just needs some type of hobby community
Something her for her mind to grab on
Absolutely, no, that's what that's kind of that's it. That's you kind of crystallize what I was trying to get at
Where it's like there's other shit They can make a person feel better than therapy and it sounds like you want her to go to therapy because you want her to feel better and
I would say let's try and focus on those while you also provide the example
But all that stuff you just say like community activities all that kind of shit like that should help you know
Like that should help you know Wonderful homies, wonderful.
Yeah, get your mom horses.
Get your mom on a free bus to Atlantic City.
Yeah, she'll forget about all about her brother.
Yeah.
And you also lose your inheritance at the same time.
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an earlier probably made it too long.
Cool.
Just curious, should I let my current girlfriend know that my ex-girlfriend who I was with
for six years is talking to me about her mom's health problems.
Her mom was a sweet lady, a great lady, so kind of genuinely interested in knowing how she's doing and kind of concerned,
but also given the link to that relationship and stuff.
I know my girlfriend's not exactly comfortable with it and we're kind of in some rocky tent
just so that's for some advice.
Thanks, boys.
Hmm.
So the question is, should he tell?
Should, like, I mean, you should tell her,
or you're just like kind of doing the,
the worst version of cheating possible.
Yeah.
Like, if you're keeping it a secret,
you're going behind her back to what?
Hear your ex vent, you're not even getting your dick jacked.
He's emotionally, this is the worst.
This is because you're emotionally cheating,
and you're, but he's not even getting anything,
like he's getting like, he's a emotionally cheating bottom,
where he's not, you know what I mean?
Like he's getting fucked by her emotion.
Like he's letting her vent.
Like, yeah.
Okay, it's one thing to be in an emotional affair
and you're getting something out of it.
He's like providing a sounding board to his ex-girlfriend
and making his current girlfriend mad.
And it's like, now I don't personally think
it's wrong what he's doing is necessarily wrong.
Like somebody who I was in a relationship with,
if like, I was, if I felt like, I mean, that's so over, I I was in a relationship with, if like, I was,
if I felt like, I mean, that's so over, I'm secure in this relationship. I care about this,
this is what I want to be with. But we're now not even friends, but with something crazy like this,
like serious health problems, you could theoretically have this conversation. And it is completely fine.
But it also, there is a situation where your ex is angling
to use this sympathy to get back in the zone.
And if that's what you think is going on,
then yes, you're doing something wrong.
If you don't, then I think you're fine.
But the second you feel any kind of like,
wait, is she trying to fuck me again?
You gotta be fully out of there.
I also feel like, look, let's say he told his girl
and his girl is cool with it.
That would be a red flag to me.
I would just be like, wait, you don't care?
No, I'm interested, yeah, yeah.
There's a big part of me that I'm like,
wait, you're talking to your ex girlfriend
under the guise of the mother's health issues.
It's like, you guys both need to keep it a hundred
with each other.
Right, right, right.
Like, this is, you guys know what you're doing.'s like, you guys both need to keep it 100 with each other. Right, right, right. Like this is, you guys know what you're doing.
Right.
And like, so you don't think it's possible, you don't see like a possibility that this could
just be innocent and like catching up.
Nah, the one way I would be like, all right, innocent, if the mom called him and was like,
look, I'm not well. You know, I'm not well.
I just, I want you to know separate from her.
I'm not trying to bring you in,
but like, just wanted you to know, love you.
Like, I could see that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, like, I'm very, six years the long time,
you probably get to know someone's parents
if you're taking a picture of someone's face.
Yeah, like right now, my wife's mother, I love her.
I call her mom, like, she's a phenomenal woman.
God forbid anything like, you know,
I would hope that she would call me.
Right.
But if it's going through the ex,
I'm just like, that doesn't feel genuine.
That's fair.
Like that.
No, and the percentages are probably,
don't get me wrong.
The percentages of this being a dicey is high.
It's like 70, 30.
Yeah.
But I at least see a 30% possibility.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, I think he's a good guy.
I don't think he's conscious of what's happening.
Right.
Yeah, I think it's like definitely like a slippery slope.
I feel like it is.
I feel like, you know, the etiquette here would be like,
okay, he needs to like stop talking to the ex-girlfriend.
And it's like, whatever.
He likes her mom. They were together for a long time, sure. But girlfriend. It's like whatever he likes her mom.
They were together for a long time, sure.
But ultimately it's like, you know, you get like,
if she texts you, you're like, oh, I'm so sorry to hear that
about your mom.
She's a great woman.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then you kind of cut it.
You're not talking over like the course of weeks or months.
This isn't the back and forth situation.
It's a good point.
Like when you say I'm talking to my ex about her mom's health problems, what are you calling
her on the phone every day?
Because then you're right.
Let's keep it a bug fully.
We're using this as a cover to talk to each other.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I guess frequency really matters.
It's like maybe once a month, if you check in fine, even that you think.
I don't need to check it.
You just, I, you know,
as someone who like lost a parent,
it didn't even occur to me to like,
that's a good point.
Oh, I should reach out to my ex or something.
Right.
Because they just,
well, you were no need to know if,
I mean, they're just like not,
not like involved or something.
If they like found out or something
and texted and were like,
I'm sorry, be like, oh, thank you, I appreciate that.
But that's it, like, you got the talk.
Okay, that's, you know what?
That's a good point because the math I just did
was you had an incredible supportive partner.
And then I was like, well, what if you didn't?
And then it's like, well, then you'd be reaching out
to an ex for emotional support.
So even if at the time you didn't think,
I'm trying to fuck this person
I just need support in the last person the only person I could really go to is an X
It still is a big intimate ask so I guess you're right
You this is slippery slope you're probably fucked your Rex's your current girlfriend is right to feel weird about it
And you don't really need to check in you can
about it and you don't really need to check in. You can just be like,
I can have X.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a don't know.
It's like not your job anymore, man.
It's like you can feel bad about the parent.
You can like them, but it's really not in your place.
Send the condolence cards, send the mod flowers once.
Unless in the back of your mind, you're like,
oh, maybe I'll,
oh man, the place is pretty good.
I feel like being a man, she might, she'll probably beat it.
And my current girlfriend's kind of a bitch.
It's also the rule of like, I talk about this on our pod
because it's some relationship plan that we do,
but it's just like point of contact.
Who is your point of contact in this situation?
The mother has your contact.
If she wants to speak to you or needs to speak to you,
you are the point. That's a good point. It's not the ex. It's not you're right. The mom is not
who gives a fuck here. The mom's not like, oh, I really hope your ex boyfriend can support you
through this. Yeah. You're right. No, you guys are right. I guess I'm just, uh, I guess as the guy
looking for ways to weasel in with a couple X's, I'm kind of on her side,
but that's why it's important to have multiple perspectives on the podcast.
Oh, no, I always feel like, you know, the right hand is the X.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just go back.
Just think about some nice stuff.
Just use the right hand.
You're right.
T-Pain had that great tweet years ago where he was like,
do me a favor if you're ever thinking
about reaching out to your ex.
Do me a favor and jack off first.
Yeah.
And if you still feel like doing everything jacked off, go ahead.
T-Pain's a genius.
He really is a genius.
That's another one.
Stamos, but also T-Pain, we need to get in here.
He's a podcaster.
I feel like it's within the realm of possibilities.
He's got his own pod.
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great great
that's really
uh... i'm an expat living in a stralia
that's not a great thing for the state and i work in finance
i lived in city of stralia and i got a job offer for a role
here in melden
which included some relocation costs
uh... i took the job for about 60K when originally I was on 80K,
because the guy basically said I would get a raise after I relocated.
And he put some pressure on me hard to find a place.
He insisted I accepted a $4,000 loan from him
in order to secure an apartment.
A few months later, I talked to him about a raise. four thousand dollar loan from him uh... apartment
a few months later i talked to him about a raise
and he said he wouldn't give it to me
basically told me that i wasn't good enough that my job to pay me more than
sixty grand
the guy was a big-cut real Aussie fuck bag
so i got a job offer from another firm for about eighty-seven
friends i told him,
hey, look, if you can't pay me more, obviously I'm going to have to take this other job.
The guy blew up at me.
He told me to fuck off basically.
Well, come pay the, he made a deduction from my pay slip for the four grand that I owed
him and said he was going to sue me if I didn't pay him the other relocation cost and that he was in a ruin my name in the industry.
So my question is, do I pursue legal action against him? What he did was illegal, but is it really worth the legal battle for just four grand?
Also, side note, it's affected me a lot mentally. I mean, I'm negative in the bank account, man. I haven't
been able to afford to rent or grow trees for about a month. I do have a down-ass bitch luckily.
He's been paying for everything, but it's really hard on my men's told not having any money.
I'll be paid for my new job soon because I started that one already. I just feel like, you know,
I don't want to let him get away with it being a big conflict
that. So what do you think I should do? Do I take the major L or do I sue him? And also
if I do sue him, do I just get the full brand back or do I try and get some, you know,
more juice out of this guy? I try to get him for damages. Thank you so much, man. I love
you. My hair so much, man. I love you my hair lift Greek prints
My guy okay, this is a layers this guy this guy is the first finance guy I've ever heard try almost get sex traffic
This fun guys like yeah, don't worry about it. Come on down. He's he literally takes you to a foreign country
Verbally promises you a raise dude and then then it makes you borrow money from him personally.
Like, you know, obviously, this is thought you were less
than to not be so trusting.
But...
This message felt like it was from a Nigerian prince.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If it ended with, so if I could...
If you have 4,000, I could give you 5,000,
once I get my first check at the new job when it said he couldn't afford rent a grocery
I was like yo is this dude about to ask stop for money
Like fall yeah, so in terms of the reality here I
Think you're almost always better off taking an L and moving forward. Like this guy's clearly a fucking piece of shit.
He's clearly underhanded.
If the way he operates is to promise you something
and then immediately go back on his word,
he's probably not the kind of guy
that can ruin your reputation
within the whole industry, right?
And I know that he took out the four grand, which is a dick move,
but he did technically lend it to you,
even though he pressured you to take the loan.
So at some point, you would have had to pay it back, correct?
So as long as he's not going after you
for the relocation costs or any of the other shit,
I say you take the L, which is not even really an L,
it's just you have to pay them back in one lump sum instead of over time. And you just move
forward, you got a better job, you have a down ass bitch, hopefully she's Australian,
she's going, oh, thanks for fucking me, can't. You know, some cool stuff like that.
You know some cool stuff like that and
I say you just fucking start your life over you took the L But you're in Australia you you you you changed your life up
You're good to go
No use tying up and spending more energy on this piece of shit because exactly what are you getting back?
The 4 grand was alone like I'm on your side and even I'm like,
how are you gonna get the foreground back?
He did lend it to you.
And damages, I'm not a lawyer obviously,
but that seems like a little,
oh, then you're gonna fucking,
I want to, I want to law school.
I want to law school.
I want to talk about that.
You want to a Jewish law school?
I want to see a you, baby.
I mean, you see the you grant.
Yeah, yeah, that's hilarious.
You know, you gotta come back,
we gotta talk a whole hour about that.
Yes.
But yeah.
I think you're giving good advice, man.
I think you're giving good advice
because the damages are low,
attorneys cost a lot of money.
Right.
And look, I'm gonna tell you a story I've not told.
And I, I don't even know, you know what?
I should tell this story.
Tell it baby.
I was in a celebrity basketball tournament,
three on three for Nike.
Okay.
And it was a friend of mine asked me to coach a team
in this tournament.
And, you know, they're like, yeah, we could pay the rate.
The rate was a quarter of what I usually get to step out.
I called them and I said, listen, how bad do you need me?
Home me to home me.
If you need me, I'm there for the rate, which is like, it was dumb, listen, how bad do you need me? Home me to home me, if you need me,
I'm there for the rate, which is like,
it was dumb, dumb, dumb.
He's like, dude, I need it.
I could use the help man,
like you'd be representing the Asian community.
And like, you're the...
Wow, pull the representation card.
You know, everybody else is from a different community.
I was like, word, I got you.
I'm doing this for you.
And I made it very clear to the home,
I was like, I'm doing this for you. So made it very clear to the home I was I'm doing this for you. Yeah, so he's like thank you so much
You get there everyone's it's like similews there Ronnie Chang's there. You're like, hey, what the fuck?
Fuck I thought I was the only one
Jackie Chang's the other coach
Yeah, fucking it man
Yeah, fucking it man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I get there and like you look I'm friends with Baron Davis, right?
Yeah, yeah, the Bar.
Awesome dude.
Very good.
So cool.
So I thought.
Uh oh.
So he's coaching another team.
Oh, no.
You know, I say hi to him and he's like, yeah, what up?
You know, and I was like, oh, Baron's being a little different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And usual.
And I was like, I guess maybe it's being a little different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And usual. And I was like, I guess maybe it's like,
I'm coming to his world.
Sure.
He has much higher standing than me in the basketball community.
Right, obviously.
Like you, of course.
Borderline Hall of Fame, right?
And I'm a huge fan.
Awesome player.
Boom Dizzle.
Yep.
He didn't even let me say it out of me.
I was like, fine, fine.
My team plays his team, right?
I got like two little Asian guys
or the guys that were in Boogie.
And then we got a homie from USC.
He had like the ill squad to the Drew League.
And we're playing and we take a early lead.
Teams up a little early and by kinda hyped.
I'm cheering, you know, he's cheering, he's yelling.
Bull bounces to me.
Baron comes over, I get the bull and I hand it to the ref, just like I'm supposed to do.
And as I'm handing it with my right hand,
Baron comes and slaps my left hand,
and slaps this watch off my wrist.
What the fuck?
And it was just off the wrist, like all fucked up.
And I was like, yo, I literally went to him,
I go, yo, it's really good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's like, don't be a bitch.
And I was like, what, what are you two talking about? Like, you're a man. You're a worth friend, like, don't be a bitch. And I was like, what are you talking about? Like, you're wearing a mask. Like, I go
to your house. I know your son. Yeah. I was like, what's up
with you, man? And he was just like, shut up. You being a
bitch. And I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, whatever, man, I
turn around. And I just feel a slap on my face. When I'm
turn around, I'm like, son, did you just slap me with my fucking back turned to you? Wild wild. And I just feel a slap on my face when I'm turned around like son Did you just slap me what my fucking back turned to you?
Wild wild and I went after him and he hid behind like his whole squad
Wow, and like obviously he had more homies there than me of course
Yeah, I went wild on him yeah, and then like I was just my friend comes running and he's got like food
He's like, I'm so sorry. Oh, it's the concessions. What what happened? I was like, yo, my man, where is your security? Yeah, Nike event. This is station Nike events. Yeah,
that you're doing for way less than you usually. Peanuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, you know,
barons fully disrespected me. And so we went at it the rest of the game. My team won. Wow, there
we go. School. There we go. Right. But I get out of this and I say to
Nike and like, you know, not for nothing. You, you owe me. Yeah. I'm not coming to get slapped at
work. Yeah. You know, this is why I fucking M.B. of retired NBA player. Those are big hands. Yeah.
That's not a regular. That's not a regular slap. Yeah, and I was just like, and you know,
I was like, if this happened in a park,
it just happened not at work.
It's one thing, because I gotta handle myself
a certain way.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah.
Like, you know, he got things he can do,
I got things I can do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, karate.
Karate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The non-juts come out.
I was cool, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to come out. I want to come out.
Yeah.
I want to come out.
I want to come out.
Yeah.
And I was like, yo, I had to keep the lid on it
because it's a business situation.
But like, yo, for real, I never been slapped in my life
and not punched somebody in the face.
Yeah.
Like, it's like you and from Taiwan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, I got a car's out there.
Like, I do not eat it like that. And I was like, I ate this for Nike. Nike owes me. from Taiwan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got an attorney to it.
That is so funny to be like, what's your, what your manhood is worth is $10,000.
Yeah, and I was like, you've slapped me for the second time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got two cribs, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so, was this before crazy Rich Asians came out and never wanted to respect Asian people?
Wow, this happened in October of 2022.
That's crazy.
Baron's agent knows.
Oh my gosh.
My manager knows.
Nike knows.
I got an attorney to talk to them.
Holy shit.
And you know, at the end of the day, you know, Baron had a friend who's close to me,
who's like, company is producing our film, right?
So he's like, yo, Baron knows he fucked up,
he's really sorry.
And I was like, look, this all goes away.
If your man just says, my bad.
Yeah, that's all.
Say my bad and we go to Nike together and we're like,
look, you put two brothers in a situation
that was very heated without proper security.
Yeah.
In Baron's defense, Nike had us, they wanted us to like compete
and beef and yada yada.
And it's like, I get his perspective.
I'm a real NBA player.
Who's a little fucking Chinese guy?
Yeah, he's winning.
But like, Nike.
And this team was losing your right.
And I'm like, but Nike got to know like, yo,
you want dudes to be in the crucible.
Yeah.
You're gonna play the barbarians against each other.
You need proper security.
We didn't have to have a place to sit.
That's cool.
So I told Ben, like, let's go to Nike together
and show them, like, look, this is what happens
when you don't do business the right way.
Somebody's gonna get very offended or hurt.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Barron's boy was like, yo, he's down.
He's down, but he never hit me up. And I'm like I'm like look still, you know baron you listening. Yeah, I love Baron
Let's make this right boom diesel. Let's make it right homie and Nike
Come on come on Nike. Come on. Don't have a new one having you harmed Chinese children and up in your factories
children and up in your factories. Seriously.
Seriously.
Let's make it right with Chinese celebrities in America.
You slutted out our whole country for fucking air maxes.
And you're gonna slap me on a fake, come on, doggy.
Come on, you can't.
You can't have both.
Look, pick it Nike.
I can slap myself.
I ain't nobody else slapping me up. Yeah, and especially a fucking baron fucking Davis
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, dude. So he's got better things to do than slap China man. Yeah
That's fucking wild dude. Yeah, I feel like I was a little bowsky. Yeah, that's insane. Yeah, it's like 300 people there
That's and I'm like, you know, my thing,
I was just like, look dude, like I'm, I get it.
It's beef, it's basketball.
Like we're in a professional setting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, you don't slap somebody.
Yeah, I'm not in above the rim, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Even the fucking like hitting the watch off
your wrist is borderline.
Like, okay, I guess technically he was going for the ball.
You could make that argument. Yeah, I was like, I like I was like we like yeah but the slap someone in the fucking face
it's fucking why you like six four pushing 300 and he waited till I turned. Yeah like this ain't
even like manly. Yeah yeah yeah. It's a manly slap. Yeah. One of it was go I hope so I hope there's
an explanation. Something was going on with them. That's wild behavior. Wild behavior, but I would say like legal lawyers
for this amount of money, they're useless.
Not worth it.
They're useless.
You might as well come on Stavis world and just like,
yeah, it's real easy.
Start to go fund me.
Yeah, start out like Baron Davis Apology today.
You know, all right, here's a new thing.
If Baron Davis comes up with the 4,000 for this guy,
he's cool. Yo, you know what, if he comes up with the 4,000 for this guy. He's cool. Yo, you know what? He comes up with a 4,000 or that.
Nike want to come up with something for me. I'm happy. And look, I feel like it's karma.
Yeah. You know, Baron Davis died in leanings. Those Chinese shoes, some of my life is karma.
He's mad. You know, if for God he was wearing those days.
If I fucking lost my career and tore my leg and some fucking air Baron Davis's
I'm gonna go slap their
Day
So Baron I understand you're right. You're right. You're right. I didn't you ruined your fucking career didn't Clay blow as AC
Ellen leanings to a might have been
In the answers. Yeah, yeah, maybe yeah
But let's make this right leaning Leaning Rob to of your fucking ups.
Yeah, really.
And he had some great ups.
Yeah.
So there you go, buddy.
Don't even fucking bother.
It takes a whole production to get lawyers involved.
Start your life over.
You got this in your job.
You're good to go.
Fuck this guy.
Sometimes if you lose money,
but you get negative people out of your life
in the long run, it's the fucking best investment you've ever.
Even, even look at it, it's like,
I think that was in a Bronx tale,
where he's like, look at it, it's like,
not that some guy owes you money
that you paid $100 and I'd have to see that guy again.
Right?
And it's like, you, you, you $4,000 and this guy's fully
out of your life.
Now, if you try some weird shit and tries to sue you for other shit,
then it might be worth it, but, you know, you'd have to, you'd have to at least talk to a lawyer,
we don't know that.
But it's things lie right now, move on and you'll, you'll be good to go.
I'm starving the knowledge, God.
That's right.
You, you're gonna be my consigually.
I need to see how you know that life dog.
I'm down, dude.
Every time I've been in like a situation like this,
I'm just thinking of like, you know,
landlord nightmares that I've been in
where you're trying to get like a security deposit
or something and it's like, you're like,
damn, I really want my thousand bucks or whatever
the fuck it is and then you're like,
just spend weeks and turns into months
and you're like, oh, I'm writing emails of this guy.
I'm sent a long ass emails
and he's probably not even gonna read. And if you think you're like, oh, I'm writing emails of this guy. I'm sent long ass emails. He's probably not even gonna read.
And if you think you're like, I've got a document.
And you're just like, eventually you turn into like,
you're trying to find the zodiac killer.
And the documents you're trying to keep track of.
And then it's like, what the fuck am I doing?
What's the even the fucking point?
I'm not gonna get a lawyer.
Yeah, I'm not, I don't even feel like going to court.
I've already spent it.
It is like straightforward enough.
And whatever your time is worth,
you already spent more than that.
You're way, you've lost way more than $1,000 in your personal
time you've been thinking about it.
But like, you write it off, brother, live your life.
Go to Bondi Beach, get yourself some fucking Australian pussy.
Time value of money, man.
Absolutely.
Let's do one more baby boy I love the
colors they're the best
staff
near some of my life from man I miss this girl this particular girl who actually
wasn't I know about them yeah Yeah, I was born in his guy's wife.
What was this guy's wife?
I feel like he said boning. That's what I said. Yeah.
Yeah, I was born in his guy's wife.
It wasn't my proudest moment. I'm not upset that it happened.
Long story short, he found out,
I lay, fucking choke me out with my dick and down.
And yeah, so we are gonna have to cut ties,
but I fucking missed him.
I feel like I would take another choking out for it.
Oh no.
But all I get over is shaking that neck.
Sure that's it.
Like a sound. Be good bro. Choked out with your dick out. Oh, no, I get over this
Choked out with your dick out this sounds like what the biggy song story to tell would have
Yeah, dude, this is tough dude
We've all been there. I mean, I don't know if we've all been there I've been there where you miss someone who's not really your girl or like,
I've been dating a bunch of girls
in open relationships because it's like kinda,
it's kinda nice, there's some intimacy there,
it's not a full one night stand,
but at the end of the day, that's not your girl.
The pussy's not yours, you're borrowing it.
And like, you got really attached
to a fucking library book,
and unfortunately, you got to return it, brother.
It's tough, I get it.
I've definitely, there's no way not to catch feelings.
There's also, I'm gonna guess there might have been
something fucked up in your childhood
that makes a fucked up situation like this,
even more appealing to you
and like ignite something emotional to you.
So it's like, my advice to you would be,
is this more, does this happen more
with somebody in a relationship?
Did your fan, is there infidelity in your family
that somebody cheat?
Like, like something here,
the fact that this particular woman
got under your skin this much,
unless it is one in a million chance
that this is just like some kind of,
you really happen to love this one woman, but
That's probably not it, right?
She's she's talking dick out of wedlock, too
So I would what I would say is work on why trying really think why
Do what would I you already were in a guillotine with your nuts out right and now
you're like I would take another one you're out of your fucking mind literally in a rear naked
joke like straight up your naked joke fully dude that's fucking hilarious you were in a literal
rear naked joke nuts out and you're thinking about're not even, what tells me your toast is that he's like,
he's not even thinking about getting the pussy again.
He's like, he's ready for the consequences another time.
He's like, I would get fucked up again to fuck her.
Yeah. You're done, bro, and this is deeper than,
this is like something fucked up in your psychology
that's bonding, like, you that's bonding you to this woman
and you gotta figure that out.
And work on yourself, it'll feel good.
You won't only feel sad if you're going to therapy
and you're talking this out and you're like,
I need to figure out what the fuck's at the center of this.
And at the same time, that's half of it.
And the other half is generic,
get over the breakup advice. She looks, she's not reaching out to you. I got a hunch. She's not going
to be fucking hit your phone any time. So you just got to block her on everything, not
look at her. She don't with burner accounts like truly, truly just get some other pussy,
work on yourself. Find out what's going on, but just you gotta put this completely out of your brain.
Like, she's literally married.
Like, and her husband fucked you up.
Yeah.
Like, how is what I'm going to say,
like more, how are you gonna listen to me more than those two sets
of fucking, those two data points?
Well, what I love is like, if you were like, yo, stop, yeah, stop says go.
Like this guy might just run up in the fucking range again.
Yeah, yeah, he would.
He has, I mean, I don't know.
I'm sure we've been, I'm sure we've all
fucked girls that we know it's a bad idea,
but not to know about to this extent.
No, I've won't keep too many times to do shit like this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah, like, you know, the thing too is,
it's like if he has a pattern of going after
unavailable women, there's psychology to that.
You should look into it.
And it's like really a self-esteem thing.
Yeah.
Like because you're like, oh, she may like me
as the dirty guy serving that like, you know, derelict dick.
Yeah.
And it's like when you cast yourself as the other dude
in the relationship, you're looking down on yourself.
Oh, yeah, that's a great point. That's a really good point. Yeah, there's definitely some there's yeah, that 100% you could be
You could be dealing with that and like especially if that's what he's into or that's what it does it to you
There is no higher level of unavailable woman than the married woman with a violent
of unavailable woman than the married woman with a violent husband. This isn't even some pushing that you fucked up.
This is the guy who fucked you up, dude.
And you sound like you got a deep voice, doesn't sound like you're that easy.
Like, wow, biggest you're fucking husband, dude.
And how crazy is this lady?
It's like a metheon, this guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's something about himself you don't like that he's like, I deserve it.
It's punishing himself over and over again. Don't punish yourself, though. You're a good guy. You're a good guy. Let's get to the's something about himself. He don't like that he's like, I deserve it. He's punishing himself over and over again.
Don't punish yourself, though.
You're a good guy.
You're a good guy.
Let's get to the bottom of this buddy.
Go Nick's.
We believe you, go Nick's.
Call us back.
I really do want to hear.
I need an update from you.
Yeah.
I say that a lot, but I need one from you, brother.
All right, maybe we do one more.
You got time for one more?
Yeah, what time is it?
Yeah, sure.
I got time for you, yeah.
Come on, man. time for one more time is it yeah sure I got time for you yeah my man just a quick one
eldest Davi what's up my man listen I'll make it quick I'm not here to mess around all
right so listen here's my galupa and a life dilemma and whatever whatever you say is
what I'm gonna do it's my life in your hands I'm taking everything you say is what I'm going to do. It's my life in your hands. I'm taking everything you say, hardly.
All right.
Listen, I'm from Twenton.
I'm from Twenton, Jesus.
I'm from Philly.
I'm 20 years old, right?
Currently I'm a video editor for a few small YouTubers.
I can pay me fairly well.
Don't get me wrong.
I don't be mind-doing it.
I'm a holiday, you know.
I'm a holiday, you know.
I'm a holiday, you know.
I'm a holiday, you know.
I'm a holiday, you know. I'm a holiday, you know. I'm a holiday, you know. I'm a holiday, you know. I'm a holiday, you know. Like, chilling on my basement any nice out on the left side. So, I mean, it's, all right, I've been there for like six years.
It's not a plug.
It's not a plug.
You need somebody you're editing.
I'm your guy.
All right, anyway.
Here's a dilemma.
So, that's what I'm doing currently at 20.
I'll be 21 in January.
Do I like, do I just say pack it up and join the Navy?
We're like, Air Force?
Or something?
I think that'd a great experience.
What are you talking about?
I don't know what the video editing will take me.
It could be a dead end.
I don't want to find out if it's dead end.
It took me like 25 years to figure it out.
This guy's editing the video.
I don't know.
You can quote me on that.
My goal of it is, and whatever you're interested, I'll do. Do I join the service or do I pick out this
editing gig? How is that the binary here? How are your two
options?
Bobby, man, join the armed forces or be a video editor? Here's a
little context. He said to follow up where he asked the
question a little quicker and more straightforward. But I feel
like this was a more better portrait of who this guy is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And his energy and shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I say yes, join the army.
I know.
I say, okay, that's how this works.
Yeah, join the armed forces, ask to be on the front lines.
Okay.
Why is he so mad being a video editor at 20?
I feel like this guy is putting too much pressure
on myself.
I know.
I was smoking opium at 20.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was just trying to like do my ancient culture.
Of course, did you grow in a Fumantube?
I'm smoking opium.
Yeah.
Dude, yeah, first of all, video editor, like,
the way the internet works out,
everyone needs video editors.
You're actually, you've fallen into a pretty good job,
and you can do it from anywhere.
You don't have to be in your dark depressing basement.
You're, now, let's give you this.
Your energy is off.
You're not very likable.
You have, you're a little high energy.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna chalk that up to nerves,
and the fact that you wrote this down.
But I just don't see why you would wanna join the fucking army.
I don't see why that's, like, what the fuck are we talking about?
And he's 20 years old and he's been a video editor
for six years and he has work clearly.
He must be good.
Yeah, just keep working at it.
I mean, even if he's not, all you have to do is keep doing something. The biggest secret to anything is keep doing it. You've already been doing
it six years, you're going to get better, more and more people need a video editor. No, we are not
going to hire you, but somebody else might. And I just can't, unless you absolutely have to do
escape poverty, I don't understand why anyone would join the armed forces.
That's me.
You just gave the best fucking advice.
I have the same, and there's a lot of people on pods
that like purport to give advice and it's funny shit.
You were giving these motherfuckers real,
and I'm trying.
I'm being serious, this is like my serious face,
because I'm like touched,
because I have people in my life that are important to me,
and I tell them just do one thing good.
And like even people will be like,
what are you talking about?
You did all this stuff.
I'm like, no, every time I do something,
that's the only thing I'm thinking about.
Right, right, right.
When I did Bauhaus, I was there 16 hours a day,
seven days a week with my brother, back to back,
and you put in your 10,000 hours.
And you do it and then you get the opportunity
and privilege to move on to the next one.
But like just do this one thing right you six years in you're like a year from 10,000 hours.
Yeah, dude, you keep keep at it and it's like the internet is going that way.
We how many fucking editors have we hired in the last like we've we've been hiring a ton of editor.
So and just philosophically again, don't join the fucking army
unless you were born in Alabama and you have ringworm and you need to fucking, you need
three square meals and to fucking escape living in a, shitting in an outhouse. That's why
you have to join the army. That's they've engineered our society that way. So don't do it,
don't end up fucking, I mean, join the Navy Slayer. You don't do it, don't end up fucking,
I mean, join the Navy Slayer.
You just watch top gun, is that what happened?
You think you're gonna be a pilot?
Stick with it, bro.
You're a video editor.
You're a video editor, don't worry about it.
Yeah, he's gonna, what he's gonna be doing is editing it
so that he's gonna be putting people shooting guns
in a village that the US bombed.
He's gonna be putting, he's gonna be CGIing enemy combatants
at a fucking Yemeni wedding that we actually blew up.
He's like, oh look, they were actually shooting at us.
The drone didn't kill children by accident.
Those were grown men.
I'm in a basement, it's bad.
You think you're gonna be in a better place in the Navy than in the Barracks?
In the barracks? Gold dog.
And by the way, you can fucking video edit from anywhere.
Like if you want an adventure,
which it sounds like what you want,
you can do your work from anywhere.
Get a Columbia.
Yeah, go somewhere cool.
Yeah, absolutely.
Go say, all you need is fucking internet, bro.
So maybe follow your like adventure bent
and just live somewhere else.
That's the cool thing about having remote work,
but anyway, we're rooting for you.
We gotta go.
Thank you very much.
Eddie, my man, thank you dude.
Thank you, thank you.
Check Eddie's shit out.
Anything's in particular you wanna plug?
Yeah, the separate bedrooms, pop-ass rooms.
I got, when I'm in LL.
Followin' your footsteps.
That's right, that's right.
I'll definitely come do it next time I'm in LA
For extended time. I say it right here. I never miss an episode. Appreciate you, bro. Thank you so much. Listen to the podcast
Check all the shit that he's doing out. It's fucking awesome. And we'll see you guys soon by gang later baron Baron. I have a big family and they're spread around multiple countries.
So a few years ago it was my brother's wedding and most of them decided to come.
Great news but a big problem.
Where do you put eight people all with different requirements and keep them all together?
We looked at some hotels, but then it was obvious get an Airbnb. My mom and I were able
to find the perfect place. It was a big house with multiple rooms and in a part of the city
with woods and walking trails all around. The Airbnb also included a huge kitchen
where we all got together the day after the wedding for a big family meal. This is a cherished
memory for my family and me. And whenever I drive by that location, it always makes me smile.
Not long ago, my mum and I stopped by that area to walk around. And remember, one of the most
special times for my family, whether you're traveling with friends or with family for a big wedding
and remember one of the most special times for my family, whether you're traveling with friends or with family for a big wedding or
justification get an Airbnb.