Stop Podcasting Yourself - Episode 18 - Phil Hanley

Episode Date: July 1, 2008

Comedian and screenwriter Phil Hanley joins us to discuss screenwriting books, more wrestling, and Lisa Bonet.

Hi, he's Dave Shumka. And he's Graham Clark. And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself. Woo! All right, everybody, welcome to episode number 18 of, that's pretty close to 20, of Stop Podcasting Yourself. My name's Graham Clark, and joining me, as always, is the affable, wonderful, and hair-adjustable Dave Shumka. How's it going, Dave? Great, Graham, and I would like to say happy hump day.

Happy hump day to you as well. Great, Graham. And I would like to say happy hump day. Happy hump day to you as well. And joining us here today is our guest, a guest that we have been trying to get. He has been the Tom Cruise to our now defunct Rosie O'Donnell show. The Oprah to our Dave Letterman. Please welcome to the show, Dave, please welcome Phil Hanley. Oh, hi, welcome.

Hi, thanks, guys. Thanks for coming man yeah no i'm i'm excited to be here this is a pleasure yeah no it is and you dress smart man yeah i i tried to get dressed up no yeah it says i appreciate the sentiment man but now you're a little uh he's got a little bit of rosy cheeks. It's cute. It's endearing. So, Phil, you were just saying that you've listened to a bunch of podcasts. You know how we roll. Yeah, yeah.

We start with a little segment we call Get to Know Us. Get to know us. Phil Hanley. Yeah. What's been shaking? What's going on, Phil Hanley. Yeah. What's been shaking? What's going on in Phil Hanley land? What's been going down? Just doing shows.

Yeah. Went out for a beverage with you last night. That was good times. Yeah, that was nice. Where'd you guys go? We went to the Sea and Anchor or whatever the hell it's called. Is that what it's called? Supposed to be like the East Coast.

Yeah, what's that one downtown off of um not uh not davy street nelson street is nelson street uh yeah davy and fishing uh the fishing musician the fishing musician yeah we went to the fishing musician it's right you know it's right across from that like retro rock uh clothing store which were like on the same kind of block deviate used to be this is a fascinating segment. No one knows what that is. Yeah, you do. It's like a famous place.

Well, why would I know? Don't you go to bars sometimes? The Fish and Plank. The Cron Fiddle. It's near, isn't it Homer? Yeah. Yeah, it's close to Homer Street. Yeah.

It's the Pig and Sundries. Yeah. Oh, okay. The Pig and Dungare Yeah. It's the pig and sundries. Yeah. Oh, okay. The pig and dungarees. It's the pig and dungarees. That's what it was. So, you know, the symbol is a pig dressed like a conductor. I thought you meant like an orchestra conductor, not a train conductor.

No, that's upstairs is like kind of a posh place. It's the pig and tails. The pig and tails. Do you know why they did that that why they like bars have those names like the fox and fiddle and all that no because back in the medieval times lots of people couldn't read so they would just paint like a fox oh and a fiddle and then they'd be like i'll see you the fox and fiddle oh wow yeah because they didn't have like a lot of people you could put that shit on a side. But why would they choose dumb names even back then?

I don't know. How about that? You know, because if you just call it the Fox, then everybody would think it was the hit radio station. I'll see you down at the... Everyone would expect schwag. I'll see you down at the murder-suicide. So, yeah, we had a drink last night, which was great. Yeah.

Maybe a couple. Yeah, you had one. Yeah, you had one. That's right. I threw them back like prohibition was right around the corner. You would not be prohibited. I would not. I don't think I would survive prohibition.

No, I would. You know why? Because I think that was the high time of drinking was duringhibition. No, I would. You know why? Because I think that was the high time of drinking was during Prohibition. Speakeasies? Yep. Flappers? Right. Fedoras?

Pinstripes? WC Fields had a basement full of gin. You could have a basement full of gin. Yeah, buddy. Yeah. I wouldn't mind. I'm drinking gin right now, actually. That's a change of pace.

Yeah. Tonight, it's gin night. Graham brought over warm beer, so we're drinking gin. I know. Why? Actually, that's a change of pace. Yeah. Tonight, it's gin night. Graham brought over warm beer, so we're drinking gin. I know. Why? Okay, that's a thing that doesn't happen. It happens in Ontario, and it happens here. Yeah.

But it's very rare anywhere else that you go to a liquor store and they haven't refrigerated their beer. Why does BC... Or at least have a section of refrigerated beer. Yeah. But why is BC anti-cold bevs? Anybody? Nope. In Ontario... Our lines are open if you want to call.

In Ontario, they have... Maybe they have them here, which would be like a big kind of warehouse beer store, and it's all... It's like super cold, and it's all refrigerated. Well, not the LCBOs, aren't they? No, no.

Yeah, the liquor stores aren't, but the actual beer store. There's like something called the beer store. Oh, okay, yes. You know, we got those here, too. Really? I've never seen a beer store. Well, no, no. We have cold beer and wine.

But the beer stores are run by the LCBO, aren't they? Yeah, I think so. Now, they, I went to one. That's an acronym. Ah, well played. No, you know what? Because remember, you guys couldn't That's an acronym. Ah, well played. No, you know what? Because remember, you guys couldn't think of an acronym. Yeah, it's a call back to our life.

Yeah, it's a call back to Tuesday night. Yeah, good call. I like that Phil gives you edit points. Just listen for when Phil says trim that. We get silence, And we come up So Phil I understand you Had a drink with Grail Did you hear that there's a big auto plant

Shut down in your hometown Yeah actually a bunch of my friends That will affect But right now They're on Just in case anybody's wondering Phil's from Oshawa, Ontario that will affect. Yeah? Yeah. But right now, they're on, like, they're... Just in case anybody's wondering,

Phil's from Oshawa, Ontario. Yeah, Oshawa, Ontario. And right now, they're kind of... Home of the generals. Home of the generals, yeah. Bobby Orr, that's Bobby Orr's

stomping ground. Do you think that anybody ever accidentally shows up in Oshawa thinking that they're going to Ottawa? Oh. I thought you were going to say

anyone shows up thinking that there's actual generals no that would be ridiculous war reenactment it's a war reenactment wouldn't that be awesome if there was a town that that was that they were famous for like that was their main industry was the war reenactments that they did every sunday and like everybody just sat around just waiting for that sunday to come i bet you you know? I bet you there is. Kenneth's Bunkport? I bet you there's a place that throws a badass war reaction.

I've seen one. I saw one in Montana. It was great. It's because these guys take it deadly serious. It's like people come in the full regalia, right? And then they actually get drunk. They don't think that.

They don't think it's that serious. Yeah, no, because they drank in the field during the Civil War, right? But they don't use real bullets. But they could. They probably could. And nobody would get hurt because those musket bullets wouldn't hurt very much. You should do a reenactment of Prohibition. Oh, that would be great! That would be your one-man show.

Do a reenactment of uh like and just do it a friday night in a cellar somewhere yeah and do a reenactment don't invite anyone oh oh you mean and then just get hosed yeah or break open my own barrels of booze like on your own moonshine anybody ever had moonshine uh no sir no but i know uh two comics in ontario who were doing a documentary and they went to kentucky they were going to do a documentary on the mines they're shutting down a mine or something like that in kentucky they were going to do uh sounds fascinating yeah well it's actually because it's the fried chicken mines all right you don't let it finish no no no but actually because all those reality shows now are all those like terrible jobs so it's actually it

was kind of before their time. But anyways, they were hanging out with these dudes in Kentucky. And they were drinking actual moonshine. And what do you go blind? Is that the thing? That's masturbating. That's right. Why do I always get those confused?

Because you do that in a mine too. Yeah, remember when I say, see you guys later, I'm going to go drink some moonshine? And I just go home and jerk off. That's because I don't know the difference. You were going to say something about the Oshawa plant closing down. Yeah, because what happens is right now, I think they're almost shut down, but people get like, they're on kind of like hiatus, and they get like 80% of their pay.

Hiatus is tough when you work in a factory, because you know, you got to keep your factory skills up on like hiatus and they get like 80 of their pay but this is tough when you work in a factory because you know you guys keep your factory skills up on the hiatus yeah but so yeah but uh yeah no everyone will be everyone uh will be uh yeah i don't know what will happen i don't know that's pretty devastating yeah absolutely yeah because it's it's been like uh forever it's been the government's stepping in oh really yeah yeah because Because there's no real proper kind of like, not redundancy packages. If you're in Britain, that's what they call them. If you're watching The Office. If you're watching The Office.

But those compensation packages are not adequate enough. They're really, really skimpy, apparently. Oh, really? Yeah, so the government's going to step in and not do anything. That's my guess. The government's going to come in and shake some hands. Wow. Yeah, no, that'll be, I don't know what will go down.

I'll be in Oshawa in a few weeks and I'll get the scoop. Yeah. Yeah, and I'll come back and report. Yeah. Sounds good. Please do. So we're going to send Phil into the field. Yeah.

Why did you move away from Oshawa? Why, really? No. Okay. How's the entertainment industry there? It's booming Dave Was there ever a Be a tourist in your own town thing going on? Some kind of promotion No but I think

Yucks put on a night there When I was a kid There was a comedy night there when I was a kid. There was a comedy night there at one point. Oh, good. In Oshawa? Yeah. Sure. Did you ever do anything like that? Because you grew up here in Vancouver. I never did. They have tons of those in Vancouver, though.

Like Eat Vancouver. I did something last this past winter. There was a like some kind of food thing where you get discount discount meals. I forget what it was at nice restaurants. Yeah. Eat. Is it a Vancouver might be Vancouver.

You think of eat Oshawa. Oh, I think of eat Oshawa. I once I took a bus tour here a couple of years ago just to see if I was missing out on anything. Any secrets? Yeah. Dude, this city is so fucking boring. Once I took a bus tour here a couple years ago just to see if I was missing out on anything, any secrets. Dude, this city is so fucking boring. Like, even from a tourist, like a guy that's getting paid to jazz it up barely has anything. Like, Gassy Jack, that could probably be a good story if it's told right. Yeah, I don't even know.

I don't know the story. Well, it's boring. I know it's an unfortunate nickname. Yeah, I don't even know. They didn't even explain. He said, that's why it's called Gastown, because it was Gassy Jack. But they didn't go the next step to say, that's the interesting part. No, they never said that.

I know that it wasn't that he made his living in gasoline or fart. He was a bean baron. Gassy Jack. Should you explain what Gassy Jack is? I don't know. You're international listeners? Oh, Gassy Jack. Should you explain what Gassy Jack is? I don't know. You're international listeners? Oh, Gassy Jack, there's a statue of a gentleman named Gassy Jack

at the big intersection in Gastown. And he's standing on like a beer keg or something. Yeah. Like a beer barrel. He looks like a prospector. He had some connection to booze. He started Gastown, which was originally what

Vancouver was. Then Gastown burnt down was originally what Vancouver was. Then Gastown burned down, and he headed up the rebuilding. Probably too much gas. I think it was a gas fire. Yep. No, but didn't he, wasn't he, he was like a character in the, he was like the King of Kensington. Yeah. Of Gastown.

He was the Al Waxman. Yeah, he was the Al Waxman. How come Al Waxman doesn't get more play? Poon pay? Yeah. Only of Gastown. Who's the Al Waxman? Yeah, who's the Al Waxman? How come Al Waxman doesn't get more play? Poon pay? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Is he dead?

Is he dead? Al Waxman? I'm going to venture and say no, he's not dead. I'm going to venture and say yes. We'll solve that later. Yeah, that's a 50-50 split. You want to weigh in on this? Al Waxman dead or alive?

I think he passed. Yeah? Okay Waxman, dead or alive? I think he passed. Yeah? Okay. Did he pass gas? Whoa, tying it up. That's what I love about Dave. With a bow.

But, Phil. Yeah. I noticed you were looking through my cookbooks. Yeah. Jamie Kennedy? Yeah, Jamie Kennedy. That's a comedian quote. Oh, yeah. That's what I thought was odd about it, that you had a Jamie Kennedy experiment cook's a comedian quote. Yeah, that's what I thought was odd about it,

that you had a Jamie Kennedy experiment cookbook. They're all experiments. Wacky brownies. Oh, right. Oh, hey. Yeah, yeah. Marble rye with actual marbles. That's Carrot Top's cookbook. Okay, right.

And the top of every dish has carrots on it. How did Jamie Kennedy convince television to give him a shot? That's what I want to know. How did he trick? You know what? One of the things was, there was a book by him that came through the warehouse. And the whole back portion was advice of how to get to the top in Hollywood. Number one piece of advice, sleep around.

Oh. Yeah. Apparently, that's how he got his first agent and got into a bunch of auditions. Really? Yeah, yeah. With a couple older broads. Ah. You know what I mean?

Well, that's not how you get to the top. It's how you get to the lower middle. Which is where he is. I'd say middle, middle. He's not in the middle. Well, I mean, he stars in movies. He was a star in movies. Not anymore.

A year ago. What was the last movie? Kicking it old school. Oh, good call. I was thinking of Malibu's Most Wanted. I'm like, that was years ago, Dave. But you're right, kicking it old school. But Phil noticed I had a Jamie Oliver book.

I mispronounced the name. That's what I meant to say. It's Oliver, but sometimes it's pronounced Kennedy. I have a problem with words. So do I. And I was reminded of apparently Jamie Oliver did these shows where he had a band, like a backup band. He did these live cooking demonstrations. Really?

And he had songs about the food he was making. And would he sing? Well, I don't know if he would sing, but he would get the audience to sing. And one of the songs, according to Abby's aunt, was... Aunt Sheila. Aunt Sheila One of the songs was about Making a fish stew And the lyrics were

I want a fish stew But when you say it fast It's I want a fish stew And he sticks out his fist In the air Wow that's not very appetizing That guy took a page right out of jamie kennedy's book that's what i'd say and he got the whole audience pounding their fists in the air

singing i want a fish stew he is cheeky yeah he's cheeky yeah what's his deal it's because girls want to sleep with him right that's why his tongue is too big for his mouth he can't formulate a word is that i but i think how does gene simmons formulate all his words with his long tongue uh riddle me that carefully i don't know um gene simmons can we break that off for a second yeah break me off a piece of that break me off a piece of that yeah gene simmons wrought something awful in making it possible for like a c or d or possibly even g-list celebrity to headline his own reality series so then along comes uh hogan knows best right which we can all agree was a great idea at the time right yeah well he was at

the height of his popularity he was at a scene and. And now Nick Hogan, if I'm not mistaken, is the worst human being alive today. Is that... Is anybody going to disagree with that? And I'm mixing, you know, Homolka's in there. Yeah. Too soon? Oh, her.

Oh. Show just got edgy. I think she was more a tool of Paul Bernardo. Yeah, whereas Nick Hogan acted a lot. You guys got some of the notes of the things I wanted to talk about. I'm glad. We wanted to do some serial killer. Yeah, well, there's that thing that came out this week about his call from the prison or whatever.

Yeah, that's something it's uh i was reading like yeah he wanted to put in a cell with more dudes yeah that's oh i didn't hear that yeah he was he was originally because if you're a celebrity right yeah and i only know this from reading uh tommy lee's uh biography portion of the uhley Crue book. And when you get put in prison as a celebrity, there's like a wing. You're put in solitary. Because everybody in there kind of wants to kill you.

Or fuck you. With Tommy Lee, no doubts, there would be some big street credit if you fucked Tommy Lee. Because you were the guy who fucked the guy who fucked her, right? Like you're one degree removed from having sex with pamela anderson true graham was looking at me when he said that i'm winking yeah yeah i guess i didn't

want to get into that but yeah so yeah so they put him in solitary so they put nick hogan in solitary and he bitched and whined until they put him in a cell with three other guys you'd think that that would be even more like someone they would want to kill because it's the son of a tough guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a celebrity. Why would you want... I think you might be, you know...

Just as a cry for help? What I heard was that there was something on some news show that said that somehow they had a tape conversation of him talking to his dad. Yeah, because they record those conversations. And then for later, didn't they plan on televising them, though? I thought that was kind of... Well, no, they're part of the public domain, right? Like, those recorded conversations, anybody can file to listen to them

they're not private between an inmate and his dad really yeah between an inmate and anyone's dad yeah so but you would think that he would know that inmate and the lawyer that's the that that would be privileged but you think that uh they would be aware of that, right? I don't think Hulk Hogan's aware of a lot. I don't think Nick Hogan cares. Yeah, because he basically killed his friend and is trying to slough this off and having gay sex in the prison.

You know what? When I'm feeling down, I just want to go out and have gay sex. When you're alone, life is getting you something. Oh, sweet. You can always have gay sex. We're funny. Dave, what happened to you this week?

You were in a writing workshop today. Yeah, today. Tell me about it. I went to a screenwriting, the screenwriter's summit. Oh, you were at a summit. You didn't tell me it was a summit. Yeah, I didn't know it was a summit. It was a summit.

That implies coasters. No. No. What kind of coasters? You know, for your drink. Nope. Summit sounds classier than workshop. Workshop sounds like there's wood chips on the ground.

And dungarees. Yeah. It was not a workshop. Although, it is a craft. Yeah. It is a craft, yeah. It is a craft. The craft of screenwriting.

Was that one of the overheads? Did people still use overheads? Were there overheads? There were two speakers. Overheads. One guy did... It was actually really good. It was all about structure.

The whole event is terrible. Oh, great. Tell me more. It was full of these... Pretentious. Vancouver Film School nerds who uh i was one yeah well i i they were just all they all seemed to know each other and i was the odd man out it's terrible and i uh i felt i was glad i was the odd man out yeah eating lunch by myself did you brown bag it it was catered oh yeah that's a summit so what was who was the

keynote speaker uh well there there are four speakers it happens tomorrow so there were two today and two tomorrow and they were each they're all kind of like semi-famous uh script doctors none of them i don't, has written a successful script. So like these Hollywood script doctors? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy today was named Sid Field. He's probably the most... Sid Field?

Yeah, he's quite famous. He wrote the screenplay book. Yeah. He's garbage. His book's garbage, too. I haven't read his book, but the first guy, I forget his name, he did a lot of stuff on structure,

and it was actually, like, I felt like I was, oh, these are tools that I could use. For your craft. For my craft, huh? And then Sid Field did... just basically rambled on for ten minutes about one topic and then he would show clips of movies and that

guy loves Mr. and Mrs. Smith. That's weird because that was yeah, who's the other guy? The guy that wrote the other book? Robert McKee? Yeah, no, because McKee never wrote anything.

Oh, okay. Sidney Pollack, the guy that just... Died? Yeah, the guy that just died. He wrote Witness. Okay. I think it was Sidney Pollack. I could have the name wrong,

but the guy who wrote Witness also wrote a book on screenwriting. And there's just so many references to witness so if you haven't seen witness and really like got into it if you're not amish no i've read uh i've read uh this book story by robert mckee yeah and it's all kramer versus kramer oh yeah and he's the guy robert mckee's the guy in uh adaptation right Right. Yeah. Playing himself, playing himself. No, it was Brian Cox who played him, I think. Oh, but wasn't Robert McKee in it somehow? I don't know.

Okay. Moving on. So it was shit sandwich. It was okay. Who's tomorrow? Gene Simmons? A lady and a dude. So that should be fine. Oh, that's one of my favorite films.

Lady and a dude? Yeah. With the dogs? Goldie Hawn. The dog, the dog's a surfer. Goldie Hawn and Ashton Kutcher. It's one of my favorite films. Lady and the Dude? Yeah. With the dogs? Golly, hon. The dog, the dog's a surfer. Golly, hon. And Ashton Kutcher. Lady and the Dude.

So how did you hear about it? I never heard there was some summit. There was a thing in the newspaper. My mother read it, and she's like, your father might pay for you to go to this. So I did. That's nice. Oh, is it some big moo- it's a bit of a bit of mamoo okay sitfield's got a name man he wrote a book yeah yeah he don't live here he's got a fly

phil hanley could be you could speak at one of those things you wrote on a goddamn hollywood film a couple yeah yeah i don't think i could i've never seen Mr. and Mrs. Smith. But I do know that people will always reference... I saw on 30 Rock, Tina Fey referenced that... Tootsie. Yeah, Tootsie. Is that true? I don't know if that's in a lot of screenwriting books, but I remember that line. What? She said something that I forget.

It's not important. So the summit didn't wear off in you at all well the summit had nothing to do with tootsie but oh no and oh and that's your that's your beef right i was that's what you just i brought my dvd Hello, my name is Dirty. Actually, what I should do tomorrow, I should find out what these people always reference

and I should bring a DVD and get them to autograph it. That's a good idea. You should. I had nothing to do with Mr. and Mrs. Smith. But you mentioned it. You sure you didn't work on it? You brought clips. You seem to be plugging it an. Are you sure you didn't work on it? You brought clips.

You seem to be plugging it an awful lot for somebody who didn't work on it. So, but is it worthwhile? I never do those things. Sort of. I mean, I guess it's kind of like a refresher course. It's the same thing. They're all, they all say the same thing. What time does it start at?

It starts at 8 in the morning. You're not invited, Phil. Oh, I'm always, when I have those things. So, what time do you get up it uh it starts at eight in the morning you're not invited oh i'm always when i those things you get so what time do you get oh you get up early anyways yeah okay yeah buddies but thanks for trying to invite yourself along yeah no i wasn't i was just it's just uh yeah whenever those things are looming i'm like oh man i gotta get up at like seven i can maybe that's why you didn't show up last week you you had my favorite excuse of why you couldn't show up to the podcast you said either i have to stay up late or i have to get up early so no but that i was like that is that is you proposing a perfectly sober and rational plan to some problem that you're having like there was there to me there seemed to be no problem

whatsoever no no no because no but when i say like i would have had to either like stay up till five in the morning or i would have had to get up at five in the morning to complete a full work day oh like i didn't mean early like i didn't mean like i'd get up at eight i would like it would have been uh yeah would have been something plus i found aj mckenzie and he had the small wonder story oh man that was delightful that was great uh one thing i noticed at the uh workshop is uh there were these people in the like the first guy got people in the audience to kind of give um sort of an outline of their scripts and like there was a fill in the blank what's the title what's the main character's name what's his struggle blah blah and the people who volunteered

to talk about their stuff to everyone had the most like transparent uh issues that were they were trying to put in their script and one man versus society one no woman was like, this is about a woman whose father never loved her. Oh no! And then this guy who was Middle Eastern was like, this is a forbidden love story about a gay Iraqi.

He's wearing all sorts of pink. He's also dressed like Tootsie. He is. he's wearing all sorts of pink he's also dressed like tootsie the uh he was actually it was white chicks that was my fit one of my favorite memories about because i went to film school and i'm you know like these poor uh film teachers like just semester in semester out see these people coming in with the same prattly shit and there was this one teacher who was the documentary teacher and he came in i remember the first days like uh before we could even come up with our documentary subjects he's like here we go there's not going to be any documentaries about tattoos they're fucking boring people who get them are

boring people who draw them are boring secondly People who draw them are boring. Secondly, we are not doing any documentaries about city and nature. You can only see so many fucking shots of one little blade of grass coming out of a concrete step. And he just rattled

on about 20, and you could just see people silently crumbling. Unrolling their sleeves. Yeah, exactly. And you could just see people silently crumbling. Unrolling their sleeves. Putting away their nature pamphlets. Dropping the class. And then that was the same with the screenwriter, because it was right on the crest of, like,

Quentin Tarantino was as big as he was going to get, and so everybody in there was going to be the next Tarantino or Robert Rodriguez or Kevin Smith. Like, it was all those guys. And you could just see the teachers, like, roll their eyes. Like, it's like when you were a kid and they'd be like, write a story about history. And you'd turn in something about Ninja Turtles. And they'd be like, we can't accept 30 essays about Ninja Turtles. His name's Raphael. They're based on artists.

Anyways, Ninja Turtles was on before I left the house. Go Ninja. No, that was Ninja Turtles 2. Oh, my mistake. That was the end of his career. Who, his, Raphael? Vin O' Ice. No, Raphael worked in like four other movies. Oh, right, oh, right.

Oh, yeah, he plays the guy in the deli. He was on Return to Taxi, the TV movie, remember? Yeah. He played Jeff Conway's part. Oh, Raphael. I would like to see some stunt casting for the Return to Taxi movie who would you cast as Latke

I don't know but my Tony Danza is going to be Zac Efron oh he is yeah good call he's the new Tony Danza what about Louis who could play a Louis Danny DeVito Danny DeVito, Danny DeVito.

Verne Troyer. Oh, yeah. Good call. A little stunt casting there. Verne Troyer. What about who would play Christopher Lloyd's character? You need somebody really kind of buggy and wiggyed out. Oh, right.

Who would be good at that? What about... Michael Richards? Too old. Yeah, too old, too controversial. Too controversial. Somebody from SNL? No?

Nobody's doing anything crazy on SNL? Something with crazy hair? It's got to be somebody with crazy eyes. Who's got crazy eyes these days? John William Scott. You know who would be a heavy... If the movie was actually going to be like Tracy Morgan.

Tracy Morgan as... Turned the Lloyd and Christopher Lloyd character into a black guy? Yeah, why not? I don't see people... You don't see people? I was going to finish, but Dave wanted to... Bosley was a Bernie Mac.

That's true. Yeah, that's true. God, I had a good point that I was going to make. Oh, do it. No, no. We've lost it. Phil doesn't see people. You know, I don't...

That's true, though, Bernie Mac. Who played Jed Hersh's character? Let's get down to brass tacks. Let's explore the Jim character. Is there someone who's notorious for being wacky and possibly on Angel Dust these days? Andy Dick. Oh! Nice work.

Well played. Well played. Andy Dick, good call. I think we got a pretty solid cast. Mary Lou Henry, that could be just the flavor of the day, girl. Doesn't really matter. Amber Tamblyn. A little young.

No, but you know, this is going to be in pre-production hell for a couple years. We're making the Photoshop. Depending how the summit goes tomorrow, Graham, we might get this greenlit tomorrow. But who do we say would fill in for Judd Hirsch's? I don't know. Eugene Levy? He could be a... Why not Judd Nelson?

He's busy. Judd on Judd action. And is that the whole cast? We never did Latke. Oh, yeah. Who would fill in for Latke? Who would be... Borat.

Oh, yeah. Could be a vehicle for Borat. Could be, yeah. The would fill in for Latka? Who would be a... Borat. Oh, yeah. Could be a vehicle for Borat. Could be, yeah, the next Borat vehicle. So we had, who was Raphael filling in for? Was Tony Danza? Oh, yeah. No, no, he could be Latka. Yeah.

Oh, that's right. Okay, Raphael filling in for Latka. Instead of, well, he's a party dude. Yeah, he is. That makes sense. No, Michelangelo's a party dude. Yeah, Raphael was cool, but rude. But rude, yeah.

Oh, he... Like Latka. Yeah. No. That is going to be a Photoshop frenzy. Who would be a good vodka? I think we... Didn't we just stitch this up? Yeah, it's Raphael.

Raphael. Oh, right. Where were you? Sorry, guys. Okay, so... So, did we do everyone's get-to-know-us? I think so. Was that a get-to-know?

Was mine a get-to-know? Yeah, this was just... All I said was I went in for a drink. All people know about me is that I went in for a drink with Gray Mr. And you are a... You've written feature films. You've written feature films. Oh, right.

Okay. And you... Snappy Dresser. Boom, boom, boom. What else do you need to know? Oh, and you were flipping through my Jamie Kennedy book. Yeah. Oh, right. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. do you need to know? Oh, and you were flipping through my Jamie Kennedy book. Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay.

It's Jamie Kennedy. Pranks and pranks and franks. Pranks and beans. All right. Well, do you want to do some overheards? Totally. Overheard. Overheard.

Before we get started on this, Phil brought to our attention that we talked about local wrestling a couple episodes ago. Yeah. And we never mentioned that Graham actually went with Phil. To Surrey. Yeah. We went all the way into the fucking heart of Surrey. Yeah. And we got dressed up.

Yeah, we dressed up in our good and grubbies. Yeah. Well, you didn't. You still looked like a classy uptown soldier, if I recall correctly. No, I... our good and grubbies yeah well you didn't you still look like a classy no uptown soldier if i recall correctly no i you wore your grubby sweater last minute it was that shock dust on it was yeah it was last minute but uh we did i thought we uh i thought we uh we looked like we could we could be the the main event and we saw honky tonk man or as dave pronounced it honky tonkman honky tonkman of the tonkmans yeah um and that was the craziest thing anderson flanagan uh o'reilly and tonkman

law firm remember we were like he was the main draw right he was the big man yeah and so we watched a bunch of the amateur guys which is great great. And then, remember, Honky Tonk Man came out and sang for a good ten minutes. Yeah. Right? He had somehow convinced himself that he was, in fact, actually a Honky Tonk Man. I'll go so far as saying a great ten minutes. Oh, yeah, no, it was a great ten minutes, but it was really weird. And then he wrestled for about three minutes.

Yeah. Performance anxiety? Well, here's the thing that one thing i noticed because hong kong man used to be very famous for his giant pompadour yeah but he's aged right and so the pompadour if you'll recall started you know at kind of the larry fine line of uh of hair growth so it was larry fine larry mo curly three stooges larry fine sorry you're a comedian right the last name was stooge stooge dude stooge and tonkman um but yeah it was fantastic and then yeah we both purchased uh-huh polaroid photos with the Honky Tonk. Wow.

Five bucks a shot. But you didn't, when you had your picture taken with Screech, you had a problem paying $10 for it. Yes. But the Tonkman. The Tonkman was five. Because he's a showman. And you got to hold the Intercontinental Wrestling Belt. Yeah.

He gets to keep it. Yeah. And also. Oh, He gets to keep it. Yeah. And also... Well, then why does... Oh, I'm sorry, Dave. Why does Ricky the Dragon's steamboat never let me? He always claims he doesn't have his. That's... He doesn't trust, man. There's no bond

of trust between you and the steam. And then someone said that he actually lives in Surrey. Honky Tonk Man. He, him, and a guy called Earthquake run a... Earthquake's now deceased, but they ran a wrestling school in Surrey. Oh, wow. They might as well. So he does live in Surrey, then?

If he doesn't live there, then that's where he's rooted. He commutes. Yeah, he goes there. He gets around, man. Somebody told me that he was in Brampton, Ontario at a wrestling thing. Okay. So he still does. He's woefully out of shape too that should be noted uh yeah yeah he well in his actual he didn't do a lot of wrestling he was more greg the hammer valentine than he was

cool cocky or bad well done yeah no but he didn't uh he didn't do any real uh and i mean he's he's he's in his mid 50s so i mean yeah but he did more wrestling that night than i, but he didn't do any real... I mean, he's in his mid-50s, so I mean... Yeah. But he did more wrestling that night than I did, but he... But only by a hair. Yeah, yeah. He was only by one of Larry Fine's hairs. He just kind of threw the guy against the ropes a few times.

Who won? Who won? He won, but then apparently the next night... By decision. But the next night he he the next night he apparently lost well now uh remember this too um who when he was teamed up with craig the hammer valentine what was their tag team called dave nope no uh uh special delivery no okay uh Special Delivery? No. Okay. Chalkman and Valentine. No, what was it called?

Was anything ever called Special Delivery? Was there ever a wrestling character with a UPS delivery? Oh, that'd be heavy, Dave. Good idea, man. It comes in with a package. You don't know what's going to be in it. It could be a folding chair. Asbestos, his final move. Asbest in with a package. You don't know what's going to be in it. It could be a folding chair. Asbestos, his final

move. Asbestos in the eyes. Yeah, because that was a big, that's what I just said was very timely. They were either called Heart and Soul

or Rhythm and Blues. I think it was Rhythm and Blues. Oh, Rhythm and Blues, yeah. Yeah. Heart and Soul was somebody else.

Heart and Soul, yeah. I think that was a side project of the people from the C&C Music Factory. Heart and Soul was a guy with a ponytail. That would be a special delivery. That was the name of their album.

Heart and Soul's special delivery. He made you sweat. No, he's going to deliver the goods. That guy had his own solo project and his name was freedom williams and what was the project freedom yes what if it was called williams he was that was freedom presents that was an outrageous outfit that was borderline wrestling outfit actually there was a lot of borderline wrestling outfits and in that era yeah i suppose i guess that's the only job you can do in that outfit. You can either wrestle or head a band.

Like a techno outfit? Yeah. A Euro techno? Yeah. Do you remember he wore a singlet and army boots? Yeah, buddy. Yeah. Is that dope enough?

Indeed. Overheard. Overheard. Let's throw it over to our guest, Phil Hanley, so we'll start this off. Something you've overheard thatard let's uh let's throw it over to our guest phil henley so start this off something you've overheard that you found particularly hilarious uh yeah so i have two overheards okay well you start with one and then we'll kind of go around robin oh cool okay cool okay i don't know what one to start with if i should start with the best one should i go historically what happened first it doesn't matter just do it uh all right i'll start with i

will go historically that's great okay about three months ago i was walking by uh this couple uh these two girls and they and you just i could just see them coming up the street and the one looked like a little bit like a little bit steamed and when I passed the one that was steamed finally stopped talking and then the other one said well you know gorillas are the only mammals that are faithful

whoa that is a bad thing to pull out it's like a justification yeah there was that. Okay, cool. Do you want to throw it out?

Do you just have one, Dave? I just have one. Yesterday. And then we'll go and then we'll, yeah. Okay. I went to get in touch with my roots. I was invited to... You mean the store roots that sells the Olympic clothes.

Every week at the Ukrainian Orthodox Center by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, apparently they have a big pierogi dinner. I've been to it. Starch-a-roo. If you love starch, boom, boom. I've never been to it. You got the kibasa?

I am Ukrainian. Are you Ukrainian? As far as I know. Okay, that explains that dance move you did when I got here. Are you Ukrainian? Yeah. Shumka? As far as I know. Okay, that explains that dance move you did when I got here. High kicks. More music, more magic, more shumka. I used to have a poster of the shumka dancers on my wall. Same.

Small world. But this thing is so popular. We waited in line an hour to get our pierogies and cabbage rolls, etc. And they... What do they call pierogies? Come on. Pierogi? No.

It's called perahe. Oh, I don't know. I'm the least Ukrainian Ukrainian you're going to meet. Perahe is how they pronounce Perahe. In the Ukraine, yeah. Yeah, and in Alberta in the Ukrainian communities. Yeah. I will agree with that.

All right. Wow. You guys have both out-Ukrainianed me. But they had these postcards there for a Ukrainian alternative rock band called Vopli Vido Pliasova. I'm already in love with these guys. Who will be in Vancouver June 14th. Oh, you're going to miss it if you're listening to this podcast.

Oh! They'll be back. A huge write-up on the back of the postcard. And they talk about the lead singer, the charismatic Oleg Skripka

who quote plays the trumpet and the accordion in addition to taking care of the singing responsibility and who's on stage persona that's going to be a tough solo and who's on stage persona evokes images

of a somewhat huskier Iggy Pop minus the helter-skelter... Oh, it's a run-on sentence. Minus the helter-skelter outlandishness is soft-spoken and thoughtful and portrays a subtle vulnerability. Can we see a picture of this? In this picture,

he seems to be wearing some kind of biking outfit and playing the accordion. Okay, okay. He kind of reminds me of a chunky Iggy Pop. See if you can even tell which one they're referring to in that picture. Which one's the Iggy Pop guy? It's a 50-50 split. it's a 50-50 split yeah just for the uh the uh the viewers of this podcast uh he uh the guy the the what the chunky eggy pop is that what they call them yeah husky husky are you were you going to read the last line in this oh the last line's very good but just so you know he's wearing like

some type of uh i guess if you were to surf in the wintertime, that's what you'd wear. He's wearing a wetsuit with an accordion. And the last line of their write-up is, This music is so vibrant that it tears down not only the roof, but also the walls. Which isn't necessary if you're actually going to... Walls first. Everybody knows it. No, no, no.

Roof first, otherwise everyone dies. Okay. Roof first. We were discussing this last night. Demolition. I'm an idiot. I like that. I like that overheard because it was interactive.

We got to pass a thing around. Yeah. It was like a... It was like show and tells. It was like a talking stick. So if you were holding it, you could talk. Can we rename the podcast The Talking Stick? Is that buzzword?

Can we call it The Exploding Sandwich? Listen up, Exploding Sandwich. We don't know if you've been listening, but we bet you're not. Just get your heads up your asses. And because those episodes haven't aired yet. That's right. We have a rival podcast called Exploding Sandwich that we've never listened to, but we don't like it. Oh, I've listened to them.

Is that the old microphone from Alco-Cow? Yeah, buddy. The one that certain people that used to play there complained about. Are you talking about me? It's because it threw me. Yeah, I can tell. Were you doing shows back then, Dave,

when we had the Frankie Vallon microphone? Who's Frankie Vallon? Is he related to Frankie Vallon? He's like a huskier Iggy Pop. He's like... Any characteristic of Iggy Pop, certainly his stage persona,

he just denounced but said he was like him. Do you know what I'm saying? He's huskier and a little more vulnerable. He's soft spoken, fully clothed. He enjoys Iggy Pop. In small doses. He's soft-spoken, fully clothed. He enjoys Ziggy Pop. Yeah. He actually enjoys Pop. The reason of the comparison is at one point he slipped.

He enjoys Ziggy, comma, Pop. Okay. I guess I got to do... No, Graham, I can't wait to hear your overheard. What? Don't be a deaf. I don't know. You were looking like you needed someone to ask you.

To let me in? Yeah. Thanks, buddy. I think I wrote down a lot when I was in Gibson's at this... Gumboot. The world this Gumboot the world famous Gumboot Cafe that I had heard of yeah no

Phil was all over it he wanted to get some organic greens and browns they got both I heard the food was great there but it was under construction

when I was there with your roommate and past podcast host or guest Sean Proudlove Sean Proudlove oh he was up there with you

yeah oh you guys were in the show in Gibson at the little movie theater yeah those shows were yeah it's a cool little place have you played the theater Sean Proudlove. Sean Proudlove? Oh, he was up there with you? Yeah, yeah. Oh, you guys were in the show in Gibson. Yeah. At the little movie theater. Yeah. Yeah. Those shows were... Yeah, it's a cool little place.

Have you played in the theater? No, I stayed next to it. Oh, yeah, that's where I stayed, man. That was all right. I've never been. Shout out to my friend Gus Guzik. Who's from Gibson. I just liked the enthusiasm there was there was this group that i i was

listening to rather intently for about 20 minutes it was two girls and a and a guy and they were drinking and smoking out on the patio and they were like the two they were the type of girls that a guy could hang out with two of them because no one guy would hang out with either of them you know what i mean like they had to like team up to make one decent girl because they were both but he was also really vapid so it was kind of this try like no matter what one girl said he would say something instantly more vapid and it would just kind of go remember the one i said a couple weeks ago where the the was saying, like, I don't know, how many days are in a month? And the guy said, I don't know, 30, 31, I don't know.

Right? That was part of the conversation. And then at one point the girl said. She knows. Give it up, girl. The girl says, remember when we switched slippers? And the guy goes, do I? I just like the enthusiasm you threw into that.

Hells yeah. That was great. Do I? I don't know if I've ever said that. You got another one? Another overheard? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, let's throw it out there.

Let's see how it goes. All right. another overheard oh yeah yeah let's throw it out there let's see how it goes all right uh oh this one i should have seen i this wouldn't this overheard would be a lot better if i could have turned around and followed the two people yeah sometimes you gotta be brave yeah no i should have done that but these two guys um were cruising down the street and uh the one guy was just like going off like i could see like they were coming towards me and the one guy was just like going off like I could see like they were coming towards me and the one guy

you could see he was like talking a mile a minute and then he got closer and I realized he wasn't talking a mile a minute he was rapping to he was rapping to his friend and as I was it literally a mile a minute?

like he was going quick like like chabarangs? yeah a little bit let me down you like a little And as I... Was it literally a mile a minute? Like he was going quick. Like chabarangs? Yeah, a little bit. Let me down you. His friend's not even listening to him. His friend tried to start a conversation with me. No, like he was really... I guess he was going fast, but more than that, it was quite animated.

Like you were like, wow, I wonder what this dude... And so I realized, okay, he's rapping. And then when I passed him, he said, I'm a thug for life. Where is my wife? And so I should have turned around. Where is his wife? But his friend wasn't...

I don't even think... His friend's a rap fan. He just didn't... His friend's just caught the crossfire of this. He wasn't enjoying the music at all. His friend doesn't even think his friends are his friends a rap fan like he just didn't he wasn't his friends just caught the crossfire of this well he just he wasn't enjoying the music at all friend doesn't even know he's just like i thought we were gonna go for tea yeah and then so for life where's my wife my wife uh my friend uh pat my friend pat uh a few years ago a Impossible 2 was out and it had a Limp Bizkit song I forget what

it wasn't Nookie but it was the song Limp Bizkit I don't know what it was called but the chorus was now I know why you wanna hate me and my friend Pat used to always say you wanna date me now was that the same friend that did that used to say sticky icky icky whatever no different yeah all right see but i do remember these things do your friends live in

victoria i have friends all over no but like did you know you grew up in vancouver but you went to school in victoria right so you still have a bunch of friends in victoria i don't have a bunch i have uh at least one where Where does Pat live? Pat lives here. Okay, cool, man. My friend Dave lives in Victoria and I have a stalker in Victoria. Oh, yeah, yeah. We should revisit that after this. We don't have any updates. Oh, really? I'm kind of

feeling like maybe it's a one-way stalkerdom. I would be tripped out. I wouldn't be into that. No. The used band-aid thing. If you got a used band-aid, you would pack up your bags and leave town. I'd have to get a new mailbox. Phil's a bit of a germaphobe. No, I'm just not big on

used band-aids. You're not big on them? No, that's nasty. Do you have any more overheards? Actually, I do have one. It better be good. The crux of why I like this one was because it was a couple, quite possibly one of the more unattractive-looking couples I've seen in a long time.

On both parts. Just two letting themselves go. It was on the Skytrain. And I liked how the one guy, obviously, he was at the end of his rope, and he was trying to explain something to her, obviously he was at the end of his rope and he was trying to explain something to her and she was not she was not

receiving the message at all because he goes all I caught was why can't you go to the library go on the internet, send some emails god it would be nice for once and then she goes

what do you want me to do? But he just told her exactly what he wanted her to do. But what do you want me to do? That's good in theory. Yeah, but I'm only one person. What can I do? For future reference, I've had three people send me overheards. Would that be permissible to

perform? Someone told me one recently as well. Maybe next edition we'll do some guest sent in overheards. Excuse me. That was a pretty good round. What are we... I ain't complaining.

Are we going to do Lisa Bonet crush hat? Lisa Bonet crush hat Lisa Bonet crush hat Celebrity crush hat Crush in the hats Celebrity crush hat Go fuck yourself Celebrity crush hat Chapeau chinois

Celebrity crush hat Crush hat But I'm just gonna This won't be entertaining Cause I'm just gonna say No no no We're gonna explore this Yeah I wanna

I wanna go into detail Different phases Okay Different worlds But crap to say we're gonna explore this oh yeah I want to I want to go into detail different phases okay so yeah we're doing the celebrity crush hat you know what it is you know roles can I tell my my my side you gotta grab you gotta grab But I already told you what's going to happen. It's always an age people have never been. 42. No, 23. 23. 23.

All right. Lisa Bonet. Okay, well, we got to do a spot of research. Celebrity crush hat, Phil, off to a running start. No, I said I didn't want it i said this is gonna be lame because the only person that i really like is lisa bonet okay explain it though well let's explain who lisa bonet is you were gonna go lisa boner yes you were phil was gonna no i was not gonna call her that you have l I'm going to be honest. I never have guys.

No, but who doesn't know who Lisa Bonet is? Well, I don't know. Besides AJ McKenzie. No, but I think you've got to realize there's a whole generation of people that have never seen the Cosby Show or A Different World. She was on the Cosby Show and A Different World. Same character on both shows. She played Dwayne Wayne. What was her...

Denise? Was she Denise? Yeah, Denise. So, okay. And she married Lenny Kravitz. She did marry Lenny Kravitz. And I believe it's the mother of his children. I think they have a daughter, yeah.

And she had a brief role in High Fidelity. Yeah, which to my delight, I went to that movie not knowing that she was going to be in it. You weren't even planning on a boner that day. No, I wasn't. I wasn't planning on her. I wasn't dressed to see her that evening.

No, I was pleasantly surprised she was in that. She was radiant. She sang Baby I Love Your Way. And went home with John Cusack's character. As all the ladies do in a John Cusack film. Here's a question. Actually, that's the actress in that sort of intro, Graham.

Who played his girlfriend in that? She was quite pretty too, actually. She was something Danish. Raspberry Danish. She was great in that. I'm surprised I haven't seen her in anything else. Maybe if you watched something Danish. Raspberry Danish. Yes. She was great in that. I'm surprised I haven't seen her in anything else. Maybe if you watched more Danish movies.

Phil's giving me the edit signal. I don't edit that hard. Yeah. All right. Okay. So, but what is it about her? She may have been a crawler. I don't know. It was just like of all the, like if you guys like put up pictures of like girls in your

rooms and stuff like that. Dory Spelling mostly. Yeah. That's for fashion inspiration though, isn't it? Yeah. No. Well, you know. It's a bowl full of cherries.

Anyways. No. It just – I don't know. I guess – yeah, she was like my first like –'s the only Not that I'm obsessed about her But when I knew this segment was coming up I'm like, this is going to be my side It's strange though Because I'm guessing

Because she had a pretty hard rock Kind of life there for a while That's why she got the boot from the Cosby show No, I heard that it was just because Did she pose nude? No No, she was in that was just because... Did she pose nude? No. No, she was in that movie, actually. Angel Heart or something.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I haven't seen people like, oh, you must love Angel Heart. And I say, hey. You say, I do. I cannot find a copy. No, I say... You're like, I've never heard of that.

Yeah, I say grow up. And give over your copy. No, no, I don't think I've ever seen... I've never read that with Mickey over your copy. No, no. I don't think I've ever seen that with Mickey Rourke, right? Yeah. Mickey Rourke and my girlfriend. So Lisa Bonet wraps it up for Phil Hanley. Dave Shumka?

23. Did we even say what the age was? Yeah, the age was 23. Phil is forever in love with Lisa Bonet no matter what age. But you must have had. No, but no one. I'm just saying. There must have been other what age. But you must have had. No, but no one, I'm just saying for this. There must have been other dalliances.

The only one that really, yeah, I'm trying to think, because I've heard this segment before and you guys are naming girls and I'm like, hey. Girls, girls, girls, girls. Yeah, no, honestly, that was the only like,

was that a Jay-Z, girls, yeah yeah well played when i come off too oh me i was i was gonna go with the molly yeah no that was you that's the only uh uh one uh you know that that song you know that that song was recorded in vancouver right one of the crew girls girls girls yeah uh yeah and you know they name all the strip bars in vancouver yeah and it was the the source strip bar was what is now the Cobalt Punk Bar. What was it called then? It's called the Cobalt. Oh, because there's a sign that says Girls, Girls, Girls.

Girls, Girls, Girls, that's why. Oh, and the sign is still there, but it's garbage. But they don't name it. In the song, they're like... That's where it was written, apparently. By legend that it was written on a notepad in the Cobalt while it was a strip club. That's why that sign's up there.

Regardless if it's true. Oh, they put the sign up after the song came out? Yeah, yeah. Did you know that Bon Jovi named their album Slippery When Wet after a sign at the number 5 orange? Is that true? After a sign or was it just a sign at the number 5 orange

that said Slippery When Wet? Oh really? Okay. Nice. Was that your celebrity crush? Yeah. It was the number 5 orange in 1987. What was yours Dave? When I was 23

It was a very good year. in 1987. What was yours, Dave? When I was 23... It was a very good year. That's never going to get old. Do you do that every week? That's very funny. When I was 23... It was a very... I saw a movie

called Mean Girls. Oh, and it starred one Lindsay Lohan. Oh, I was going to say Tina Fey. Who at the time was probably underage. But is she not still underage? No, no. Depends how morally lax you are like Dave over there. Look at the ancient there. I mean...

Look at the ancient Greeks. I believe she's got an old soul. Your Honor. No, I think she was 17 at the time. But really, that was the last time when she was... It was before she went all through this weight madness. And became a skank. She had some curves to her.

She had some nice red hair. Yeah, and she was a good actress in that movie, too. She was a pretty lady back then. Yeah. Back in her youth. I remember before she became a Skeletor drug skank. Pardon me. I will say now, though, because I've been watching, people have been raving about 30 Rock and I've never watched it.

But now I've been watching season one or whatever, and I will say that I think Tina Fey is very pretty. She's Yama Dum Dums. Absolutely. She's a pretty lady. But she's also a talented woman. Which is intimidating. Yeah, that's the only reason Grahamham hasn't had a shot he's been intimidated i'm intimidated by anybody with any intelligence graham at the age of 23 let's talk

about you 23 i think uh it was a very yes grow up, Dave. 23. It was the first of the scary movie saga that I ever saw was the third one. You know what? I wouldn't call it a saga. It was originally written as a saga. And that's why it's a saga. But anyways, I digress. The lead.

Anna Faris? Yeah. Very, very cute. She's very pretty and cute and funny. And so she gets my vote. But then there was another... She did a cameo. A three episode arc

on the last... most recent season of Entourage. That's right. and she had weird fish lips and she had a little work done a little insecure here's another one though and but i want to state the reason why i find this woman attractive it's not really because i find her attractive outright although she's very attractive uh-huh in 2003 there was a show that aired which has now been canceled called uh Vegas, or Las Vegas. Has it been canceled?

Yeah, it was canceled this year. It's not coming back. That's a shame. But you know who I'm talking about? She has the red hair. It's very busty. Oh, Nikki Cox? Nikki Cox.

Nikki Cox. I am attracted to her almost entirely because she was married to Bobcat Goldwaith. because she was married to Bobcat Gullwaith. And I'm like, she opened up the realm that there is a possibility that if he could sleep with her, then easily I could sleep with her. You know who she's either married to or seeing right now is Jane Moore. See, and again, that's another on the list of if she would sleep with that, then I could get in there as well. And he's a deadhead.

Bobcat? No, no. Jane Moore? there as well. And he's a deadhead. Bobcat? No, no. Jay Moore? Jay Moore, yeah, he's a dead fan. That's Phil Henley rounding out the crush by bringing it back. Let me just say this, though, because I think somehow you got interrupted,

but you said that you thought, I think you were going to imply that you didn't think Lisa Bonet was going to age well. Yeah, because she went, from what I heard from her biography, when A&E used to do biographies... Yeah. They did a Lisa Bonet biography?

Yeah, but it was a Lenny Kravitz, and it dovetailed with hers. Oh, okay. And she had some trouble, and Cosby... She was taken out of the show, because that was the thing too is she wouldn't let her character be the character she was dressing she basically had the same thing

that cory feldman had where cory feldman like was only in movies where he dressed like cory feldman and it was the same thing with lisa bonet like she started dressing like lisa bonet as the character in the show so they had to to change the character of Denise to match who Lisa Bonet was. Oh, yeah, because one season it came back and she had super long dreads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why, because she wanted to be more Lisa Bonet than she did Denise. And they eventually just wrote her out of the show. Yeah.

And she wasn't involved. I mean, you can't be married to Lenny Kravitz and not do some drugs and wear some leather pants. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But anytime I've seen, I haven't seen like super recent photos of her, but I thought she still looked. Still got it? I think she probably will age well. Like don't crack?

She's aged already. Yeah. I mean. She's ancient? She's aged. Oh, aged. That's not much better. But what's Tempest Blood so up to?

We'll get back to her next week. Are we... Yeah, I think I'm looking at the clock. This will be next week, I guess. Is this the end of the show? Yeah, we'll update on... What else do you want to do? I don't know.

I thought we were just hanging out with microphones, man. Well, dude, we're going to go rock band it up because we haven't done an installment of Road to Rock Band since AJ was here. Have we done all the segments? Are you guys doing more segments than this? This feels like pittance. It comes and goes. If Phil wants to do more, we can do a bonus episode.

Yeah. Except that I want to go home. Oh, Graham's tired and wants to go home We did Overheard, I did those two Overheard stories We got to know you Was it two? Yeah, I did two We'll go back to the counter and check

We did Overheard We got to know you We talked about Bonet We talked about a lot of shit, man We're over and over again This has been a great... Oh, it's been one of the top 12. Top 12.

It's episode 18, and we're great. We're on a roll. Phil, thanks a lot for coming out, buddy. Oh, no, hey, thank you. It's great. Great to have you here, and you were tons of fun. Yeah, no, no, I had a blast. Come back.

Literally tons of fun. Phil Hanley is the fattest motherfucker you'll ever meet. He just ate the fucking wallpaper off the wall. It was incredible. No, yeah, no, tons of fun. Phil Hanley is the fattest motherfucker you'll ever meet. He just ate the fucking wallpaper off the wall. It was incredible. Yeah, no, that was fun. I liked it. Dave, I'll see you in hell. Oh.

I'll see you in hell from heaven. It's nice to hang out with you, Dave. And anybody, do you want to do your little spiel? Oh yeah, if you want to email us, it's stoppodcastingyourself at gmail.com Click and visit our

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