Stop Podcasting Yourself - Episode 48 - Orland Kurtenblog

Episode Date: February 3, 2009

Hockey bloggers Mike Halford and Jason Brough of Orland Kurtenblog join us to talk sports, Tupac conspiracy theories, and actual Canadian blokes.

Hi, he's Dave Shumka. And he's Graham Clark. And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself. Woo! Woo! Welcome everybody to episode number 48 of the podcast Stop Podcasting Yourself. My name is Graham Clark and joining me is the man that Sting called the fourth policeman. Mm-hmm. Dave Shumka.

That's right. Did you know that Sting got his nickname because he wore a striped black and yellow shirt once. Really? Yeah. I kind of thought he gave himself that name because he thought he'd sound cool. Because he wanted to get confused with the Wrestler Sting. That he could project into the future that there would be a wrestler. The Wrestler Sting named himself after Sting, right? The musician? He named himself after Sting, right? The musician? No, he named himself after Stuart Copeland.

Joining us today on the podcast, two very funny gentlemen who are, would you say the proprietors of their own blog? That's not the right word, is it? Did you sell it? Yeah. Do you still own it? We sold out. Oh, the sellouts from the blog

the owner operators of the Orland Kirkland is that how you say it? Orland? Orland curtain blog which is it got it's name by it's a blog about the Vancouver Canucks

they're the local hockey team to this city and their first captain, his name was Orland Curtin Bock. Now what we just done is we kept the first name, Orland, and we kept the first part of the second name,

Curtin, and then Bock was replaced with blog. Very good. It's very inside. Because we blog. The gentleman who was explaining in great detail the name of the blog, Jason Brough. And partner, would you say? Writing partner? Is that right?

Underling. I prefer the term life partner. Life partner, Mike Halford, joining us here today on the podcast. Thank you very much. Thank you for having us. It's great to be here. You know, just before we start, I had a friend in university, speaking of Sting, who wore all brown one day, and now he is known as Pooh.

Just one day. For the rest of his life. Take that, Sting. He is Pooh. So that's good for him. I mean, Sting, Pooh, I'd rather Sting. What is Sting's real name? Why did Sting not get B, or like bumble boy bumble bumbles

yeah yeah why did he get sting the coolest thing because he what's his real name honey gordon sumner gordon sumner have you ever heard dana carvey's bit about that no or he's like hey guys you i'm called sting now and they're like okay whatever gordon like right away they're just like yeah uh shall we get to know us please get to know us um so as is our tradition 48 episodes can you believe it believe it honest to god yeah another by the time we get to whatever's 48 plus 48, we could call it another 48 episodes. Yeah, 96. Yeah, 96 episodes.

We really like admiring, reflecting on what we've done. Yeah, that's most of the podcast. Just a number. This is an American podcast. You two in the corner. Stay quiet. Thanks for showing up. In the Get to Know Us portion, we want to know what's up with y'all.

Oh, I've got one we were recently turned down by wikipedia for our orland curtain blog entry really how yes i i don't know it's it's the equivalent of uh donating to the food bank and then them telling you that they don't want your evaporated milk basically it was that bad. It's too evaporated. We have enough of this. Yeah, I got an email back saying, of what value would this be to Wikipedia? There's a news story this week, actually. Wikipedia is going to kind of have a board of editors for every entry.

It's in place already. And they decided that... They didn't send a thing that said... No, it was a one-line reply saying, why does Wikipedia need this? Oh, wow. It was very curt. The new editors are actually fascists.

I don't know if that's been publicized. Why do you guys stick up for yourselves? I did, sort of. I looked at other pages that were of questionable content, and I said, well, Two Girls, One Cup has a Wikipedia. Does it really? It does. Everyone knows what that is.

Yeah, that's the thing. That's important. I thought it was worth a shot, but he then replied that everyone knows what you are two guys, one blog. Have you ever changed anything on Wikipedia? Yes, I have. Often. Often.

Anything for accuracy's sake? No. Just for fiddlesticks. Maybe once. Once probably when I saw some poor grammar because I do not care for that. Good for you. I do not care for that. I already have to edit a lot of Mike's poor grammar, so I do not care for that. Good for you. I do not care for that. I already have to edit a lot of Mike's poor grammar,

so I do not care for it on Wikipedia. We might have a fight on this, by the way, just so you know. We've been waiting for something like that. Yeah, but no, we've had some fun. We might have insinuated that some athletes have some cocaine problems. Like who? I can't remember. There's just so many. There's just so many.

Tell us now. There's so many. Anytime. Who was it that we put might be a cokehead, enjoys coke? Oh, you know what it was? It was the girl that won the first America's Next Top Model. Oh, Adrienne Curry? Adrienne Curry, yeah.

But that's probably true. It stood up there for a while, too. And then that I was dating her during the throes of her Coke addiction. It would be funny if it got taken down and then the people at Wikipedia were like, Well, we don't know that that's not true. Mike Halpert is a catch. And she wasn't on Coke. Now, you guys, it's primarily a hockey blog, a Canucks hockey blog.

But you guys do other sports, apparently Top Model as well. That's a sport, right? It's like a sport it's a competition we have a tag what you call a tag in blog posts uh i'm doing the quotes thing um but uh what we have a tag called pics of really really really hot chicks and that's occasionally what we'll just we'll just like we'll be desperate for so if somebody types that in it'll direct yours will be one of the options So if somebody types that in, it'll direct. Yours will be one of the options that they can pick? That's correct.

And it will mostly have pictures of girls and maybe some commentary, but mostly pictures. Mostly pictures. We do a lot of pictures. We do a lot of embedding of YouTube clips. You guys are true renaissance men. We're pretty advanced. I don't know. I don't want to say anything.

But yeah, the embed codes can get complicated. Yeah, you do it all from scratch. Yeah, yeah. No copy and pasting there. No, but it was mostly about the Canucks and hockey in general, actually. And we touch on other sports. For our not Canadian listeners, hockey is a sport with skates and sticks. It's like soccer on ice.

It's quite popular here. The people seem to enjoy it. It is popular in pockets in the States, right? Mostly the pockets that are close to Canada, oddly enough. That's true, right? Why do they give expansion teams to the southern states? That doesn't seem like... What are your thoughts?

Well, I think what Gary Bettman saw was he saw... He's the NHL commissioner. He's the commissioner of the NHL. You really are going to have to dumb this down. We have to practice every statement now. And also don't answer serious. Right, right. Now, I think he saw, for example, Phoenix,

which is not a hot pocket but it is rising it's rising from the ashes it was a race to do that joke he saw a couple million people down there and he thought I would like to show them something and they were not interested in being shown

but they're still not right it hasn't caught on no it's the biggest trouble of any team no they're all pretty bad they also went to the heavily saturated nascar markets which is nice because if you like watching nascar let's talk yeah let's talk about nascar let's let's get let's get global are you are you trying to break into the southern states too with this podcast? We're in. We are. Where did that guy say? We're really big in like, was it Atlanta? No. It was somewhere very south.

He's like, in Alabama. Was it in butt fuck? I think it was in butt fuck. Right. Butt fuck NW, which I don't know what that stands for. NW. Nowhere, that's what it is. Right, right, right. for. NW. Nowhere, that's what it is. Right, right, right.

Yeah, with NASCAR they say, is that right that it's still the fastest growing sport? I keep hearing that about a bunch of different sports. Hot dog eating being one of them. Is it true? Is that... What do you guys know about NASCAR? Do you know enough to participate?

It was once called the fastest growing sport. But I think it's actually taken a... it might be in some financial trouble right now. Was that a play on words because it's so fast? Right. Now I think it might be like hockey was once the coolest game on earth. Now it's the best game on ice. Now it's just in financial trouble, which is...

The poorest game on ice. Right, right. We don't know anything about nascar i don't know or i once went to uh the home depot uh at uh in vancouver in vancouver proper and the the home depot driver tony stewart was there giving uh autographs, I thought he was just there. There was a huge lineup of people who I think all had come from the suburbs, so I don't know why they didn't just go to the Home Depot in Langley for this event. But then I had my picture taken, or I think I took Abby's picture. There was a picture of Tony Stewart,

the Home Depot driver, on a Coke machine. And I took her picture with a Coke machine while everyone else had to stand in line. Suckers. What did the Coke machine have to say? Did you interview the Coke machine? It had to say, insert $1.25. Yeah, that's probably what Tony said. It said, out of stock.

Yeah, that's probably what Tony said. It said, out of stock. Yeah, I don't know that when you meet someone who's at an autograph event, if you get to have an in-depth conversation. Well, it depends on if you really throw a hot-button topic at it. Like if you're like, I'm sleeping with your wife. Probably you'll get a couple words in. He might get 10 seconds of his time. Yeah, right?

Just to check it at least. Like, what's my wife's name? Sarah? No, it's not. So he could get out of there, right? But if you it at least. Like, what's my wife's name? Sarah? No, it's not. So we can get out of here, right? But if you nail that name, you'll get another $10,000. Yeah, yeah.

You're buying time. You should have asked him about Home Depot products like the garden shears or a riding mower or something like that. That probably would have got you at least 15 seconds.

Yeah, if you went in and just acted like he worked there and you're like, do you have those plastic boots? Been waiting in line for a while here. Can I get some service service my lights kind of only half turn on jiggle the handle they run after um well did we get to know enough of them yeah but i was just wondering have you ever stood in line to i get an autograph from anybody yeah who uh former canuck captain trevor linden i did the same thing at the canucks skate with the greats with bobby orr i did it at a safeway

in richmond they got toffees there it's funny to bring this up because we are actually uh we actually wrote an article a couple months ago in the paper about some Canucks who had signed up with this shady promoter to sign some autographs and charge for these autographs. So they'd be in a place and they'd be charging these kids for autographs. So we wrote about this. And we brought them to their knees. And we brought them to their knees.

Wow. We wrote it and we were aghast and we got on our high horse. And they pulled out of it. We caused change. Wow. Good for you. Pay it forward. Yeah, we are a powerful blog.

Then we got threatened by various people. That's outstanding. Good work. It was worth it, though. But yeah, I don't think kids should have to. But you're like Tony Parson on your side you went in there you know we're actually more like Mike McCartney Parson did I make it the anchor of the global news this is a very no he's against versus Tony

Parson that is a tough sell on the old newscast I forgot to mention that you guys not only do you write this blog, but you're published once a week in the Vancouver Province sports section, which is the sports section to be in. Yeah, the declining standards of the newspaper industry. The newspaper industry is in trouble, yeah. But how are newspapers still around? That's a shocker. When was the last time, Annie?

Okay, when was the last time I haven't bought a paper in two years 1998 i haven't bought a paper but certainly i've read papers like that free ones yeah free ones or if they're just around yeah yeah like if i get a free copy of that i get the vancouver sun delivered uh every saturday here but only once a week do you read it i really just do the new york times crossword yeah yeah we should have just bought a book of crosswords but this is the weekend one it's the sunday one do you read it? I really just do the New York Times crossword you should have just bought a book of crosswords but it's the weekend one it's the Sunday one do you remember how thick that one used to be though? now it's quite skinny it's looking good

looks great in a bikini in the week you get colored comics those are the black ones you haven't seen Herman Lil Abner is that a black one? stop it Those are the black ones. You haven't seen Herman. We prefer the term color. Lil Abner, is that a black one? Stop it.

Why are there no comics about black people? There is. Boondocks. Yeah, that's right. That's a really famous one down in the States. There's a black kid in Peanuts, Charlie Brown. What's his name? His name's... There is one.

His name's Sherman. No, it's not Sherman. Sherman plays the piano, doesn't he? Schroeder plays the piano. Schroeder plays the piano. Sherman? You don't even know what you're talking about. No, I do.

Stop talking. No, there is one. Trust me. But it's not Pig Pigtail. No, there definitely is one. Because I remember Chris Rock did a big bit about it. Yeah, that's right. What did that sound like?

All right. bit about it yeah that's right yeah what did that sound like uh all right you had something about lining up for autographs uh oh um movie star and cult figure uh bruce campbell the biggest chin in hollywood yeah i i lined up for an autograph from him. You know, familiar with his buddy? Evil Dead 2 and 1. Army of Darkness. There was a lineup? Oh, huge lineup. He's a real cult figure. That's a real cult.

Yeah, it was at the Ridge Theater, and he had just come out with a book. It was called If Chins Could Talk or something like that. It was something funny. They'd say this. chins could talk or something like that it was something funny uh and anyways there's a huge lineup and he it took forever because he did the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do at autograph signing he talked to everyone he talked to everybody but just uh you know at length like oh i like your shirt where'd you get that well he would start the conversation because when i went up he was like oh that's a really neat pen.

I was like, oh yeah, I was at this hotel. Why are you at that hotel? I'm a comedian. You're a comedian? It's awesome. Can I get your autograph? I don't have a pen. What's going on with you? Dave? Well, it's the day before the Super Bowl Sunday.

So, Super Saturday Eve's... Yeah, it's the Super Eve. You guys got your picks? Against the spread? What are we talking about here? No, no, straight up. You just choose to win? Straight up.

I think Pittsburgh will win. Okay. I, too, will take Pittsburgh. Okay. Three. All right. I'm going to pick the underdog, the other team.

The other guys playing in the Super Bowl. Bruce Springsteen, he will win. Didn't Gil sing that one-legged dog song at the Super Bowl? The theme theme wrestler? He's going to sing the favorites, right? Yeah. Like it's a Super Bowl halftime show.

No, no, no. They did a thing. I think there was a thing online where he gave two playlists and fans got to pick which one. Oh, yeah. Okay. Glory Days was probably in both of them. Yeah, or Born to Run or Born in the USA. That's a great tune.

Yeah. That's what I'm trying to be honest. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That'll get you going. They should play that beforehand, I think. Have you ever watched a halftime show? Yeah.

That's one, yes. I'm usually watching the Bud Bowl. Is the Bud Bowl the one with the girls? No, that's the lingerie bowl. That makes more sense. I've also watched that. The Bud Bowl is the one where bottles of beer play? Is that it?

It's fairly hard-hitting game, yeah. Does that play at the halftime? No, it used to. I think they might have already played it, actually. I'm not sure who won, Bud or Bud Light, but they were both good teams. How are they always the same team? Well, they're dynasties, Bud and Bud Light. There's no salary cap in the beer leagues.

You can keep Billy Bud for years. I've never had Bud or Bud Light in my life. You've never had a Budweiser? No, I don't think so. Have you ever been to America? Bud Light's not very good. I have been to America. Because when most bars you go to America, it's really one of the only choices.

That or Miller, it seems to be, are the one to punch. Or the upper echelons might have Michelob. Right. Also a fine beer. I am actually a staunch supporter of Coors Light. And I get a lot of tea. I just got the look. And I get the same look when you order it.

And oftentimes a restaurant... What's the look? And I get the same look when you order it. And oftentimes a restaurant... What's the look? Like, are you on a diet? Yeah, just like that. Why are you sitting at my table? You know, yeah, it's a nasty look. And often you get it from girls, too, which is embarrassing. Is it because Coors Light sponsors all the Maxim events?

No, I think it's just because it's a light beer. That's actually why he orders it. What does that mean, light? Calorie? Or taste? Alcohol content. Alcohol content. I think it's just because it's a light beer. That's actually why he orders it. What does that mean, light? Calorie? Alcohol content. I think it's also calories. I think there's less calories. But anyway, sometimes Coors Light, they don't have

Coors Light, so they go, would you like Bud Light? Yes, I would. Oh, wow. So that's how I've had Bud Lights. It's a pretty bad story. I drink at home by myself. I always have Coors Light. The thing about Budweiser is it's only the king of beers because his father was the king of beers. He didn't fight and win that title. Yeah.

It's inherited. It's true. It's not like the president of beers. Yeah, yeah, right? Because we all know that Pabst is the president of beers. The hardworking guy who gets out campaigns in all the small towns. He shakes a lot of hands. Speak to the blue collar. Kissing babies. Hipsters love him. guy campaigns the ironic value on his side and I think that's a big especially

with this economy yeah but as I was saying they do during the election have a beer election like they have the Bud Bowl right and see who America voted as the beer of China seen that commercial where it's the... Can I run America for a week? I think it's for Dodge. And it's like this Dodge Ram challenge where they're like, we put all these Dodge Rams through this obstacle course.

And well, then why don't you just do them against other trucks and prove your truck is better? But it's all just like six Dodge Rams. So then everybody returns theirs that lost in the competition. I'm like, I can't even run over one of those tire courses. Those are some serious stuff they put them through. They're like jumping through fire and stuff. Maybe they just don't trust other trucks to be able to handle that.

I want a truck competition. I've never been in a truck. You haven't done a lot of blue-collar things, have you? No Budweiser, no trucks. You need that Tony Stewart story. That's true. Over and over and over again. Tony Stewart's Coke machine.

By the time I met Tony Stewart. Did I ever tell you guys about that? But as I was mentioning, it is Super Bowl Saturday pre-Sunday. Super Eve. Yep, Super Eve. And yet the sporting event that's on everyone's lips is the Red Bull Crash Dice. Oh, man. We watched this event last weekend.

Did you guys watch it? Oh, yeah. I'm a big fan of any Red Bull-related sporting activity. So here's a question that you guys might actually know. Did Red Bull invent this thing, or was this going on and Red Bull was like, this is the type of thing Red Bull should be sponsoring? Apparently it was big in the Nordic countries, Sweden and Finland and Norway. Apparently they did it.

You might have to fill me in on this, actually. Or the listeners. That was actually just a... That was me being helpful. It's an event being held. I think it's during... It's already over, right? It's over, yeah.

It was last Saturday in Quebec City, Quebec. Canada. Home of Bonhomme Carnival. And René Lévesque. And I think it was during the Quebec Festival. What do you call it? Oh, the Winter Festival. Yeah, sure.

Yeah. The Carnival. Yeah, Carnival Deneige. And it's like, you know, border cross when they get four snowboarders going down a hill at the same time. It's like that, but it's with guys and hockey equipment. Oh, right. I have seen that. I thought it was more like a roller derby, but downhill on ice.

Sure. Sure. With much more deadly consequences. Some deadly consequences. They go over bumps and they go around corners. And it's this ice circuit that it's got turns and twists, twists and turns. And, you know, everything. You want bumps.

But it's, we watched it last week and there's no way of knowing who the best people are going into it. Yeah, I think we picked our favorites by color of jersey. Yeah. No, by where they were from. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So I always rallied for anybody from Alberta. But they showed at the Crash Dice event,

they showed the training that went into it and the qualifying, and it was just guys going around a rink. And it was guys and hockey equipment, everything except sticks. So full hockey equipment. And everyone was wearing a jersey. No one had their name on it except this one guy. Number 99. Number 99.

And the name on his jersey, Bin Laden. Bin Laden. That is fantastic. Wow, what? He does have a big family. He has a lot of sons and daughters. And some of them, they had a fight with their dad and left. And then they got into crashed ice.

To the Red Bull. Who knew that we would be the ones to crack that case? Because I didn't even see it when it happened. You have the, what do you call it, the PVR. Usually you see the... Is that right, PVR? Is that what it is? You can stop and rewind? do you call it the pvr usually you see the uh is that right pvr is that what it is you can stop and rewind some people call it a dvr but uh either a digital video recorder or a personal video recorder your answer is acceptable let's call the whole thing off huh

yeah it's a pronunciation thing um but yeah i uh i spotted bin laden I'll try to take a picture of it. I don't know how. Camera? Yeah. It's tough to take a picture of your TV. I've done it a lot. I remember taking pictures when I was a kid of shows that I liked. For memories.

Yeah. Really? Like I thought that was a good... It was before the days of PVR. Or DVR, if you will. But you did have VHS. Nope. No, this was before that. Oh, really?

But I found a camera, and I was like, I'm going to take a picture of television. It's nice to have this developed. It's nice to look through your folder. Then here's when I was watching Perfect Strangers. I literally have a picture of Perfect Strangers. That's the only time... My first camera, I took a picture of an episode. It was a rerun of Perfect Strangers.

Right. So it was legal to do that. I was syndicating it myself. I did actually recently. I took a picture of my television because there was a Mad TV marathon. And I had to document it. I had to remember this. There was a sketch

and it was like a religious program and the name of the program was the Sunday morning with Graham Clark. And I was like, oh, I get to play on the camera. I get to play on the camera. That's your name. That's my name.

And I don't host that show, which is great. It's great that that's a random name that they picked out of the universe for a sketch character they used one time. And that you were watching at the time. Yeah, it felt good. The odds are crazy. At least 10 to 1.

At least 10 to 1. I don't want to do the math on it, but 10 to 1 at least. What's going on with you, Graham? Have we talked about you? Yeah, I think so last night I discovered I discovered a place, you know when you like if you get you guys You've been born and raised in Vancouver. Yeah, yeah, the NR and the I I'm not so I moved here Like six or seven years ago and oh no too late

Edit that out. Well But like when you discover a thing that you didn't know was around, but it's kind of like an institution, and then I went to, last night, there was a place called Mariachi's? Nope. No one knows that. Yeah, exactly.

That's the great thing. I think that's just the joke place we send people to. Have fun. It was on Main Street and 3rd, and it was a Mexican restaurant where the whole thing, like I think it only happens on Friday nights, it's a nine-piece mariachi band plays,

and people drink and eat tacos, and it's in like a tiny kind of little hall. And it's amazing. I didn't know that it existed. I went for a friend's birthday last night, but they said mariachis, but I was like, there's no place. There's no place down there. It's like

no man's land, Maine and Third, but it's just tucked away. You would never know it's there. Little Mexico. Yeah, down in Little Mexico. I've been to, I told you this, I went to a place called Pepitas at Main and Broadway, which has a one-person mariachi experience. A guy who goes from table to table. They're called desperados.

They're bandidos. And he goes around from table to table with his guitar and sings to you. And that was a deal breaker. I've never gone back. That's uncomfortable. Yeah. Did he take a trumpet, too? No, he did every table except ours because I think he read the vibe.

But I think he was contractually obligated to go to every table. And it was right when we were paying our bill. And as soon as he came to our table, we were like, well, maybe we can scrounge together some change. We were going to pay with debit. He's got a debit machine on his belt buckle. They wear big belt buckles, these mariachis.

Did he do Feliz Navidad? Yeah, he did all your Mexican favorites, Feliz Navidad, the piñata song. The piñata song. Oh, good. I'm glad you got to that. La Bomba.

The one where the bull comes out and he's about to be slaughtered. I don't know the name of it. Slaughter Paul. Slaughter Bull. Yeah. Scared Bull. That's my favorite. Yeah.

So check it out. Friday nights. Mariachis. I thought you said Paul. Great, fantastic experience that I didn't know existed. All right. check it out. Friday nights, mariachis. Great, fantastic experience that I didn't know existed. All right, check it out. This podcast brought to you by... Mariachis. Mariachis, authentic Italian.

Mexican. All right, should we move on to some overherds? Yes, please. Overheard. Overheard is a segment where we talk about things we've overheard. Wherever, right?

Hilarious places. Sometimes even an overseen something that you saw. A sign. Mine sure will be. Is yours an overseen? Mm-hmm. And we also

are lucky enough now that we have a phone number, Dave. The phone number is? Oh, God. I don't know right offhand. It's 206-something. Well, that's not going to help anyone. Well, it's not going to hurt anybody.

Close enough. Anyways, I'm sure Dave will come across it, but we've got a phone number that people have been calling into to leave us their overheards. And for a long time, people have been emailing overheards, which we still have gotten quite a few of those. 206-339-8328. 206-339-TEAT. TEAT. T-E-A-T. You know it?

And it's, yeah. So, as is our custom here at Stop Podcasting Yourself, if one of the guests, you, Jason, you say you don't have one. You came ill-prepared. I did not come prepared. I did not do the homework. You were uninformed. I did not do the homework. They're not going to have us back. We won't be here for episode 96.

Another 48 hours. I can't wait until we hit the 96. Well, do you want to start you have one right yeah I do I was really excited go ahead so we went to see Taken

last night it's a movie starring Liam Neeson yeah don't go see it they're going to take you what is it about they steal his daughter

and then he exact revenge on like anyone now he anyone he can find like he has some skills does he not he has some skills yeah you pay the bills yeah he paid bills all night long did i say take um yeah it's uh it's not it's not especially good he kills a lot of people which is kind of of cool. That's not believable. No, I know. He was in Schindler's List. He played one of the main guys in Schindler's List.

And he was saving people, wasn't he? Yeah. The guy who invented lists. He formed a company with Schindler. Him and Oscar Schindler got together and started Schindler's lists. Schindler started off in Escalators.

Look it up, guys. It's called history. He's the Otis of Escalators. Anyways, you went and saw the movie Taken. This is such a hard act to follow. Yeah, we went to see Taken, and then while I hard act to follow. Yeah, we went to see Taken,

and then while I was in line, I guess the... Was it busy? For Taken? Yeah. Surprisingly, no. No, there were people there for Confessions of a Shopaholic.

But was it opening night? It might have been. It was a Friday. It was opening night, however, for the Notorious B.I.G. Oh, yeah. Word. I was going to go there last weekend,

but I did not go there. So while I was in line to get some popcorn, four suburban white kids in front of me were dissecting the reasons that Tupac was still alive. Which is nice. At first, I was a little sketchy by the end of it. Yeah, Tupac's alive.

He's alive and kicking. Do you have anything specific? Apparently, he recorded an album called Machiavelli. I have that. Do you have anything specific? Yeah. Apparently, he recorded an album called Machiavelli. I have that. Do you? Serious. Oh, nice.

I was listening to Tupac on the way here. Really? Shakur? Oh, Shakur. No. Tupac Jones. Tupac. No country.

Tupac Gillespie. Dizzy, son. Huge cheeks as well. he's got the cheeks oh yeah we had go around with last names he yeah so I guess he created

an album called Machiavelli Machiavelli's most famous war strategy was to fake his own death to fake out his

but he did not release it because he's dead yeah i heard that no no six years ago i know i couldn't yeah i was more surprised kids today theory was still kicking around because i thought like you know if you've been dead for five years most people kind of come to grips with it i had a roommate who uh his name was something he wore a doag all the time who agreed with this sound theory that

Tupac lives on an island somewhere and he has hookers flown in well that was the thing can you imagine being a hooker end of question yes next question being on a plane

you're a hooker somebody pulls up Richard Gere pretty woman style Yes. Next question. Yes, it would be very demeaning. Being on a plane. To Tupac. You're a hooker. Somebody pulls up, Richard Gere, pretty woman style, says, I've got a crazy proposition for you. Then you're on a plane. You fly in. Tupac, probably out of shape. He doesn't have to keep in shape anymore.

No, no. He's all flabby. He's out in the sun all day, so he's probably blistered a bit. Maybe he's peeling. Who knows? He lives on an island. I assume it's somewhere warm. He doesn't live on an island. Yeah, not Baffin.

It's not like Prince Edward Island. He lives on Baffin Island. What a terrible downgrade. He should have just stayed in Ireland. I wish I was dead. Well, but the reason people think, or have this theory, is because he kept releasing music long after his death.

And that's just the way it is. Now, did he pre-record that music? Is that what you're saying? Who knows? Once something is recorded, it usually just gets beamed out into society immediately. But this was still... He recorded a lot of stuff when people were still buying CDs. Right.

Right? So this wasn't like... CDs nuts, he used to say. Okay, we had a little bit of technical difficulties there. Apologies. While we broke, we looked up... We were talking about Tupac we forget where we were

because of some technical glitch. We left, we were just standing in the kitchen, we came back We decided to look up who the black person was from Peanuts. So Dave starts to put it into Google and you put in Peanuts black guy

and the first thing that comes up george washington carver yes the guy who invented peanut butter and like a ton of it wasn't just peanut butter though it was like a ton of different many different uses for peanuts and here's a kind of just as an aside on peanut things is uh i'm allergic to peanuts. And forever there's been stand-up comics being like, how come the kids today can't eat peanuts? They're so wussy or whatever, right? And just recently there's been a huge outbreak in salmonella, in peanut butter products,

and a bunch of people have gotten sick. And I'm just like, yeah, fuck you. How do you like it, general populace? How do you like it general populace how do you like eating a peanut and getting all fucked up we had a listener uh write in and uh she asked if you smoked pot and if you did maybe that would solve some of your stomach issues and i had to write her back and say no it's it's allergies yeah yeah it's called anaphylaxis. Yeah. Smoking pot doesn't help or hinder it. You'll be stoned and dead. Yeah.

But we were in the midst of overheards. Yes. And you just finished one and then... A dynamite one about, I believe it's pronounced Tupac. And I... Mine isn't so great. Mine's pretty great. Mine's an overseen.

And I was at the Blockbuster website, Blockbuster Video. Wow, what a difference. And they're advertising their gift cards. And on their gift cards, they have movie quotes on the gift card. But this is Canada, so everything has to be in both english and french and uh you lose a lot of nuance in the french version uh the only movie quote i saw was from when harry met sally and it was the quote i'll have what she's having, which happens after Meg Ryan fakes an organism.

No, she doesn't fake it. It's Billy Crystal doing something to her under the table. That's how I saw it. Giving her the gears. And the French equivalent of I'll have what she's having kind of loses a tiny bit. It's donnez-moi

la même chose que elle. Give me the same thing as her. It doesn't really roll off the tongue. It's not off the cuff. I don't know that it's iconic in French. As iconic as it is in English. So that made me laugh this week. Jerry Lewis isn't in it.

Flavin. Also, okay, alright. This is my overheard. It was this week the scout from the Just for Laughs festival came to town and we did a I put on a showcase of the local talent

for a thing called the Homegrown Competition, of which Dave was a part of the showcase and did very, very well. That's what I hear. And I at some point i ended up having to work the door for about five or ten minutes and uh and so yeah i was just standing there and most of the people that came in were very excited to be there for the show and then somebody just kind of straggled in obviously just wanted to have a drink and then i you know there's like a desk right at the door that I stopped them. And the guy was like, oh, what's going on here tonight?

I was like, oh, there's a $5 cover. For what? A comedy show. And he says, you mean like puppets? That's the first thing I went to. Have you got any overheards? I've got nothing. Okay, that's fine.

Walks around with a lot of earphones. Yeah, well, I was ill-prepared. Also, you drive, right? I drive? Yeah, you drive. Like a car? That cuts down your overheards. If you don't have to be on a bus or...

I don't particularly like people. Well, then that's also going to cut down on you. Everything I hear is just I start screaming. So people have overheard me. We've got a couple overheards that people have overheard. He was the guy who asked about puppets.

We've got a couple overheards from listeners. Hey, stop podcasting yourself. This is Samuel Hansen from Las Vegas. Just calling because We've got a couple overheards from listeners. So as he's walking by, I just hear him screaming out, and you followed me there too, and you dragged me back here to Voyerville where I'm lonely and miserable. He kept on talking as he walked out of my hearing range, but I didn't feel like following him because I thought that he might be crazy. Thank you very much for an awesome podcast.

I enjoy it every week, and I hope that you're having wonderful days. Bye. Thanks. We are having wonderful days. And also, thank you for, instead of calling the cops, calling the podcast and leaving a message. Didn't he say Voyerville, as in a place for voyeurs? I think he said Boyerville. Which is a depressing place, apparently.

Have you been to Boyerville? No, but it's very lonely. Sounds awful. Another overheard? Hey, this is Brennan calling from western Massachusetts. I'm enrolled in college here. And yesterday in class we were doing an exercise where you interview a partner and then introduce each other to the class, which I thought was absurd

because we're all 21 plus. Anyway, while I was interviewing my partner and asking her what kind of dish of food she could prepare better than anyone else. I heard from the corner of the room, do you really have six toes? Nice. Even better. Nice. That is nice. I concur.

So that was her answer to what kind of dish you cook better than anybody else? No, no, that was a different conversation. Oh, I thought that they had a set. Okay. Someone else was having a conversation with him. Usually on a set of when you're trying to interview someone, you have the question, what's your favorite dish to cook? How many toasts?

How many toasts do you have? Was that in college? Don't you hate that when they make you introduce? I don't care who's sitting beside me. Yeah, I like that... What was the gentleman's name that sent that in? Brennan, I want to say. Brennan.

That he made the kind of disclaimer of like, we're all 21. We're all 21 and over. Yeah, because that is a ridiculous thing. That's a thing that a kid does, right? What did you do on summer holiday? Yeah, that's grade four material i don't need to i don't i don't like i don't care who's sitting beside me and whether or not well i'd kind of like to know if they'd have six toes though just because yeah you don't want one of those people sitting right next to you

does that make them better at swimming uh nope more drag better track. You would like one large toe. It's like cutting a lot of slits in a flipper. You wouldn't want to do that, would you? I just thought that because you'd have more surface area foot-wise. No, you fucking idiot. Whoa, hey! I know, what about that? I didn't like that at all.

No one did. All right, well, this has been delightful. Do you want to move on to something else? Yeah, yeah. Are you going to move on to been delightful. Do you want to move on to something else? Yeah, yeah. Are you going to move on to what I think you're going to move on to? The lobe. All right. Gentlemen, let me brief you on this.

For the past couple of weeks, we have initiated a league of extraordinary blokes. Yeah. And it was quite accidentally introduced. It was just a casual conversation that has now taken on a life of its own. Oh, it has caught fire. It has ignited the populace. As my mom said when she sent me an email, she said, wow, that

league of extraordinary blokes sure is bringing out the worst in people because it has caused fights on the blog page. And, yeah, it's turned into its own situation. So we haven't really pinpointed what defines a bloke, but the prototypical bloke is Jason Statham. He's where it started. He was the jerk that kind of grew. There was Jason Statham,

Vinnie Jones, Bruce Willis, The Rock, Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Ice Cube. Our first female blokes were Linda Hamilton and

the singer Pink. Also Sigourney Weaver. Right. Bob Hoskins. Who else? There was another. I mean, there's been a lot of people added to the list. Last week, we were trying to figure out there were no Canadian members.

So we threw around a lot of names. We asked the people at home, the bump bumpers as we like to call them uh you know who would be a good representative of our canadian bloodship i suggested taidomi but we think that being an athlete is kind of um cheating a little bit yeah yeah because because that's sort of what you do on a day-to-day basis and also I don't think athletes abuse their bodies as much as a bloke would. Right. You know, like I don't think an athlete sometimes uses his shirt to fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Whereas a Thai Domi would certainly use his fists. Right. Which is the smarter way to do it. We have certainly not defined anything. But I think someone has come up with the perfect Canadian bloke. Hi, guys. I just finished listening to episode 47. It's Kelly from Toronto.

And I sent you an email. I know it's kind of like twice the work, but Canadian blokes. I'm not sure if you guys have vetoed him yet, but I'm voting for Kiefer Sutherland. He's pretty blokey and actiony, and I think he is sort of going bald. And he drinks a lot, and he gets into all kinds of bar fights. Anyway, keep it up. I love your show,

and looking forward to the next one. Bye. Kiefer Sutherland, I say yay. Yeah, I admit him to the league. Somebody who, it might have been her, it might have been somebody else, mentioned, well, he was in The Lost Boys, which right then

I was like, of course he was in The Lost Boys and in Stand By Me, in which he played a bloke in both of them. So he's in. Yeah, I've got a list of what people have submitted in the last week. And some of them are good, some of them are bad.

I want you guys to vote. And we've made a rule on the way over here uh none of the blokes can be dead they can't be people who are dead they have to be living living in order to be called up with steve mcqueen steve mcqueen bruno gerusi was thrown around which completely acceptable as a black guy and you made sure with Kiefer Solomon. He's still alive. Still with us. I called his house. Telly Savalas was one of the suggestions. And he's one of the prototypes.

Yeah, he's a shoo-in, but dead. But he's also dead. Had he been living. If we went back in history, we would be stuck with Alexander the Great. What a blow. Certainly, if you went to where the league meets, there would be a hall with paintings of Telly Savalas. Of course there's a hall of fame in the league. Yeah, naturally.

There's more ghillies. That's a very good hockey joke. No, I think he's still alive. He's still alive. Okay, so someone suggested, Brendan suggested Peter Stromare. He was in Fargo. He was Gair Gustafson in Fargo. I like him a lot.

I say 100% yes. I do? Yeah. All right. I'll vote him. Four for four are voting him in. Yeah, unanimous. I'll vote him in. Four for four are voting him in.

Unanimous. Justin, who also suggested Kiefer Sutherland, also suggested Viggo Mortensen. Well, I mean, if you've seen History of Violence, then certainly... That was him in History of Violence, right? No. Wait, Eastern Promises.

Both. Both. Both. Viggo. I liked him more in Eastern Promises. Have you seen History of Violence? I like him naked. He's naked in History of Violence as well.

Right, but he's 69. Yeah. I didn't care for that. But he was super tough in it. He is tough, yeah. I don't know his... I think the Lord of the Rings factor. That kills it.

Does he have the swagger? I don't know. Yeah, he does. He has to walk with the swagger. Yeah. That is necessary. A little too straight. If Viggo Mortensen was just playing himself in Eastern Promises, I think we would all say yes.

But because he was just playing a role, we're going to say no. Former guest Emmett Hall suggested a few. For the Canadian, Mike Holmes on Holmes. I thought about him last night, because he was on one of those third world charity building houses. Do you have to be nice? Yeah, he's pretty nice.

He's like a really good person, that guy. Disgusting. No? Yeah, I know. No, you know. I don't want you to be nice. He's like a really good person, that guy. Disgusting. No? Yeah, I know. No, you know. I don't want you to be nice. You don't like nice people. Doesn't Statham nice?

Probably. Yeah, he probably is pretty nice. The thing is, if you take away the niceness of a Mike Holmes, because if you take away the niceness where he's nice to people in general, but he's really mean to the people. Mike Holmes is a famous Canadian handyman. He's super mean to the people who fuck up, which is kind of blokey in and of itself. He does a lot of yelling.

I think if those contractors showed up, he'd throw a punch. No problem. I think he'd throw a hammer. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not against it. I just don't think he's day-to-day tough enough. I don't think he drinks enough.

Yeah, he's not a drinker. He drinks a lot of Folgers. Yeah, he's a get-up-early kind of guy. He's out. Idris or Idris Elba, the Stringer Bell from The Wire. I don't know.

Stringer Bell. Yeah. If you start talking about Stringer Bell then you pretty much gotta get a lot of people in from the wire That's true But wait a minute, now, Stu, we're not inducting fictional characters

It's the people playing It's characters, that's an important distinction We're not inducting Chev Chelios from Crank, we're inducting Jason Statham from Crank. We're inducting Jason Statham from Crank. Because otherwise, surely Cool Hand Luke would be in there.

He is actually a real guy. I don't agree with Mr. Elba. What about Mr. Clean? He doesn't exist. He's not a real thing. Not a drinker either. David suggested Jamie Heinemann from the Mythbusters Is he the guy with the mustache?

Yep, the walrus gentleman I don't I think he's too calm Yeah, and I don't think he's ever been in a fight in his life A few people Robert, Colin, Oliver All suggested William Shatner for a Canadian one

but I don't know that William Shatner has embraced baldness the way that the others have. He hasn't embraced it but he certainly does have it yeah it's certainly part of who he is I find him to be

first of all the one thing that I will definitely say that works in William Shatner's favor is he's like king of the barrel chested gentleman like he was back in the day

like he was if you took him from that time but even now he still is like I don't know I would I am inclined

to say yes oh really I'm inclined to say no yeah his Priceline commercials killed it for me oh yeah yeah spokesmaning seems to be the kiss of death to say yes. Oh, really? I'm inclined to say no. Yeah, his Priceline commercials killed it for me. Oh, yeah. Spokesmaning seems to be the kiss of death.

What would happen if you got drunk with William Shatner? He'd probably punch you. You'd probably punch that one. Hey, punch you, then fuck you. So he's in. Punch locust, the rest, no. Ed suggested Bruno Gerusi, dead. What a good pick, nonetheless.

Shoo-in. The Friendly Giant, dead and fictional. Yeah, right. Doug suggested Matt Damon, no. No, what? Does he even know what he was suggesting? Doug, stop listening. Oh, Robert,

while suggesting William Shatner and Bruno Drussi, suggested Paul Gross of Do Scythe. No. We were desperate for a Canadian. We were desperate. We were. We got it. We got two. But, the other Canadian suggested by

I can't read my writing brandon or bramden yeah it's probably bramden michael ironside which yeah you you're familiar with the work of michael ironside he was the the bad guy in total. He was the flight trainer in Top Gun. He was in one of the bald dudes in Starship Troopers. I'm going to say, I'm going to throw 100%

behind this choice. I think he's blokey in an extreme way that almost rivals that of a Statham. He's got a blokey quality. He's that of a Statham. He's got a blokey quality. He's like a mature Statham. He's like an elder

Statham. That is good. That's not bad. Not bad at all. We got a lot more. Leonard Cohen, no. We've already Gordon Downey Leonard Cohen, no. Well, no. We've already gone through this. Gordon Downey couldn't make it.

Really? Because he wrote a book of poetry. It precludes you. Oh, well, you screwed that in me. Mordecai Richler, dead anyway. Lauren Green, dead. I'm sorry we didn't give you the dead. No, I mean, again, all fantastic suggestions.

You learned Alanis Morissette. No, I mean, again, all fantastic suggestions. You learn Alanis Morissette. And also, it gives us a lot of peace of mind that there has been a great tradition of blokiness in Canada. Here are some more Canadians from J-Boss, Evangeline Lilly. Well, I don't know what that means. She was in some Live Links commercials. She bald? No, she's on Lost.

Nah. I like her, but not for this. Donald Sutherland? Absolutely. What has he done that's blokey, though? Have you seen his performance in a little movie called Outbreak? Forgettable. I'll tell you that right now. I'd like to nominate him for Backdraft as well.

Oh, yeah. Animal House? Animal House. This is my job, people! Fantastic line. And he spawned Kiefer Sutherland and also could probably... Who did Jason Statham say that? Here's the thing, though.

As I picture a very real possibility of Kiefer Sutherland and Donna Sutherland getting in a fist fight. And it being too close to call. And it getting too hot for TV. All right. Oh, J Boss also suggested Corey Haim for a Canadian. No. No. No. No.

Just a drug addict. Just a drug addict. That's all he is. Yeah, but not Canadian enough. Is Feldman Canadian? No. No. No. No. We're not just naming Canadians. We're not just naming Canadians. We're not just naming Corey.

Did I throw out the possibility of a Stompin' Tom Connors? You did off-air and I like it. Still alive? Still alive. Still touring. Alive and stomping. Still stomping. No book of poetry? I don't think there's anybody

in Canada alive right now. And I'll just lay down this gauntlet. Who's more stomping. No book of poetry? I don't think there's anybody in Canada alive right now, and I'll just lay down this gauntlet. Who's more stomping. Who's more stomping and more blokey than Stomping Tom Connors. Stomping Tom Connors for our... Clomping Tom Connors. For our non-Canadian listeners is a country folk singer? He's like a country...

He's like if Johnny Cash never made any money and just still... And never went to jail. And never went to jail. I'm not sure that Stomp Stomp Connors has never been to jail. Maybe the drunk tag. Yeah. Maybe. But he...

Imagine if Johnny Cash just still became, but just still worked the circuit. Was still, like, out there playing in bars and, like, you know, collecting the... Like, that's what Stomp Stomp Connors is. He's a better version of Johnny Cash. Kyle suggested Mila Jovovich of the Resident Evil pictures. But also of, like, L'Oreal commercials. And, yeah. Anthony suggested Peter Weller.

Robocop? Robot Cop. No, no. No swagger. Where's the swagger? Yeah. It's a stiff clump. You're really voting in Robocop. You're not voting for Peter Weller. Yeah, no, and Robocop's not a real clock. You're really voting in RoboCop. You're not voting for Peter Wells.

Yeah, no, and RoboCop's not a real guy. Unfortunate. Might be dead. Yet. Okay, here's what I'm suggesting. I think this hall, this League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, blokes, is getting too crowded. Oh, but before we, can I crowd it up one more time?

Sure. Just because there was a couple... I don't know his name, but the guy who played the lead boss in Reservoir Dogs. You know what I'm talking about? Bald guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know his name either.

But that guy. You know what I'm talking about? Is that the guy? Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. If only we had some kind of internet. Like an interwoven network um but uh but that guy you know i'm talking about is it rod steiger no although rod steiger is dead is he dead is what's

his name brown in it uh mr brown mr brown no uh is steve buscemi in mr pink uh stupid shimmy's not in the league chris penn chris penn is dead is it lawrence tierney yeah lawrence tierney is he still alive date of death 2002 oh sorry about your luck also a gentleman that I think we overlooked, but just popped in my head when we were driving up to your house today, Samuel L. Jackson. Think about Samuel L. Jackson in both Pulp Fiction and Black Snake Mon. Think about only Black Snake Mon. Yeah, and then all of a sudden he's bloated us.

And then you'll rent it. Because you haven't seen it. No one's seen it. Have you seen it? I've seen it. Is it open sharing time? Yeah, I saw it. I don't really have anything to say other than it wasn't very good. Really?

This is from a guy who didn't like Taken. What do my opinions mean? It wasn't his finest work. It wasn't Snakes on a Plane. Also he was in Snakes on a Plane, which is, I think, those were within... Also, he was in Snakes on a Plane. Yeah, within about five minutes of each other, Snakes on a Plane and Black Snake. Maybe he just wanted to be in both Snake movies. You don't want to be in the poor version of the one.

That's in his contract with the studio, is that if there's two movies with the same word in the title, he has to be in both of them. He can't just be in one of them. Either both or or none he was pissed he got left out of anaconda okay here is something i'm putting uh i think the the league of extraordinary blokes is getting too crowded well they can move to a bigger compound certainly so my suggestion is that they start giving back to the community oh okay and we uh or they form their own kind of utopian bloke society and we start coming up with categories so we uh like we would do the best bloke uh chef the best bloke whatever right the first category i'm coming up with is band of blokes oh so like people who are musicians yeah so exemplify bloke we need a the top bloke guitar player we need noel gallagher we need the top bloke is there anybody more blokey than dole gallagher jason Statham. No, no. Musician-wise. Angus Young. ACDC.

Ooh, yes. Super low-key. Yeah. Okay. So we're leaving this up to debate for the listeners. So we want a singer. The singer can play another instrument as well. Rhythm guitar.

Or flute. A guitar player. A guitar player. A bass player. A drummer. Keyboard player. And or synth. And or a multi-instrumentalist.

Like a keyboard player or a saxophonist, a DJ. So we're going to do a band of blokes and then maybe next week it could be something else. You're going to try and create a utopian society of blokes. City worker

blokes. Because you need those services. Oh yeah. And my friend Chris called me up and had a suggestion of... Do you leave a voicemail? No, he called me up in person.

Oh, this was a personal call. He called me up. He suggested Stompin' Tom. Not before I did. And he suggested Neil Peart of Rush. No, no Rush. No Rush. No Rush.

No Rush. Come on. Not while we're on the show. He's bald and he has a goatee. And the world's biggest drum set. And that's what gave me the idea for a band of blokes. But also played in Rush. Right.

April Wine. Okay. Rush. Whoa. He's up on the wine there. Yikes, guys. These guys hate Rush. I should have vetted these guests.

Yeah, okay. So, yeah. Absolutely. Send in your suggestions of Band of Blokes to either stoppodcastingyourselfatgmail.com or the phone number, which Dave knows, is 206. I sure do know that it starts with 206. And then the numbers that follow are the following numbers. And I quote, starting now, with these numbers, where'd they go?

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No, but you know what? I don't even follow sports that closely and I found your site to be very readable. It's a lot of fun. You guys have a lot of fun. Thank you so much for coming out. It's been a slice. Thank you for the beers.

Are you guys working on anything in the future? Is there any new project coming up? We are trying to break into the radio genre. It is a genre. Yeah. Is it? In industry? I just wanted to use genre, really.

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