Stuff You Should Know - Short Stuff: Squarer Than Wombat Poop
Episode Date: May 5, 2021One of the cutest animals on the planet is also the only one that squeezes out cube-shaped poop. Find out why today. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnyst...udio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ahoy and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh. There's Chuck.
And this is short stuff about wombats. Is that the sound they make? I know,
but it is for people who live outside of Australia. Oh, okay. Well, this short stuff came about just
from our recording two days ago on, which one was that in? Was that in the appendix?
Yeah, appendix, because we talked about digestion and pooping.
Yeah. And you said something about wombats having square poop. And I was like, what? And you were
like, yeah. And you, because you're in front of my face, you showed me a picture, which was amazing.
I didn't even, maybe you texted it to me too, because you're so used to doing that.
And I said, we should do a short stuff on this. And here we are two days later by God,
and we're doing it. We are. We're talking about square poop, square poop, square, square poop.
Yeah. I started to say, yeah, and something else. And it came out weird.
There. There. What's going on with you?
I don't know. I will say this though, this, after researching this, this really clears up that old
saying that I'd heard since I was a kid that I never got, which is that guy is square as wombat.
I guess I've not heard that before. Have you never heard that? Have you really heard that?
Somebody say that? Yeah. Like some, you know, you'll see some nerd, that guy is square as
wombat. I was like, what does that even mean? You just keep saying that, huh?
I love it. I think we should start it. I just made it up today.
Okay. So regardless of all these phrases, there's, there's really only one animal on
the planet that poops in cubes. And that is the wombat. And I think in particular,
the bear knows wombat, which are by the way, Chuck, about as cute as they come.
Yeah. Australia's got two things. They have animals that will kill you dead and animals
that you only want to hug. Yes. But sometimes that will kill you dead too.
Yes, exactly. That's, that's the great thing about Australia.
So these, the wombats, they're, they're usually described as stout. They're very thick. They have
short legs, but they're really powerful and they'd use them to dig. They have long claws
that they used to dig subterranean burrows in. And they're cousins of the koala and they kind
of look like, they look a bit like a cross between a koala and a little tiny bear.
A stuffed animal, if we're being honest. Yeah, basically. But I suspect that because of those
sharp claws, you don't want to get between a mama wombat and her baby wombat. You know what I'm
saying? Yeah. And they're also bigger than I thought. For some reason, I thought wombats were
fairly small, but they weigh up to 77 pounds or 35 kilograms if you're in Australia.
And they're pretty territorial, but they do share their space with their friends.
It's so cute. That is very cute. They will mark their trails and stuff with scent and those little
cube shaped poops, which I don't think we've even mentioned yet. They poop out 100
six-sided turds every single day. Man, you use the T word? I mean, is that a bad word?
It's not bad. It's just, it's one of my most hated words of all.
Well, it looks even grosser spelled out for some reason. Yeah. Everything about it is terrible.
It even, the word itself even looks brown somehow. I'm not sure how, but it does. Everything about
it is wrong. Oh, I don't know if I should say this. No, I'm not going to say this. Go ahead.
Okay. Are we going to leave that in there? Yeah, let's leave it in and people will be like,
oh man, you got to tell us. But you said it six-sided T words, right? So it looks like
they look vaguely like dice. And even if you're just like, I mean, I guess it's a cube. It's not
a perfect cube. Look at your poop and then look at wombat poop and see which one's closer to cube
like. And you're going to say, oh yeah, definitely the wombat. And then if you stop and say, well,
wait a minute, the wombat is the only animal on the planet that poops cubes. This is kind of weird
and maybe worth investigating. And for a long time, no one wanted to kill a wombat to dissect it
and figure out what was going on in there. So we just basically walked around and said,
it must have something of a square shaped rectum. I guess that's it. That's going to solve the thing.
Well, yeah. But I think the very first thing that someone did was look on the hind quarters
and say, no, that is round as round can be. Yeah. I think they were expecting one of those
Play-Doh squeeze through shapes. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah.
But they're like, it's a star. It's an octagon. No, it was just a normal size
bottom hole. Yeah, an anus. And I think a researcher even put his finger in there just
to make sure he's like, no, it's round. Oh gosh, there we go. I think we should. Oh, yes,
you're the guy who said turds. And now you're suddenly grossed out. Well, you say bottom
hole, then you put his finger in it. Right. Put his finger in the wombat's bottom hole.
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All right. The first study was looking under that tail and they said, nope, it's round
and it's an anus. It's not a Play Doh machine. The second test they did, like you said, they
didn't want to kill them. In 2018, they found one that was hit by a car at the University of Tasmania
and Dr. Scott Carver said, you know what? I'm treating these or I'm looking into
treating mange disease in wombats anyway. So let me dissect this thing. Let me look at the
intestines and holy moly, they have a couple of grooves in their intestines where they're a little
more elastic than the rest. And that was in 2018. And I think a couple of years later is when they
did a further test, right? Yeah, at our own Georgia Tech down the street. Was that a tech?
Yeah. David Hu, or Hu, a biomechanics researcher at Georgia Tech, led this second American group
into wombat intestines and why wombat poop is square. They don't mention that David Hu and his
team waited for a wombat to get hit by a car like the Australian researchers. It just says
they dissected two wombats. So probably best not to ask too many questions around that.
Well, also, they get a wombat in Atlanta. Exactly. Maybe they had them shipped in and
then they just kind of pushed them out towards 75. See, wait, let nature take its course.
Yeah, or they just picked up the phone and called any Australian number and some guy said,
I'll get you two wombats. What's your address or whatever they call an address?
That's pretty great. So regardless, they got their hands on a couple of wombats, may have been alive,
may not. We're not quite sure exactly what happened there. But they really focused on the
intestines and that elastic part and they found that not only is there a region that's more elastic
that's less constricting in the intestines of the wombats than other parts. They also found
one part that's stiffer than the rest and that all of this weirdness in the intestines takes
place in about the last 17% of the wombats intestines and that's here. Finally, they figured
out that the square poop starts to take its shape. Yeah, and it happens because I mean, I think the
stiff portions like a stiff rubber band, basically the whole thing like a rubber band, the stiff
portions are like a stiff rubber band, which isn't a thing. I hate to break it to David do.
And the softer regions are more droopy and kind of hang down. So it creates like this
wave-like action and the whole key to me seems like how slow these 40,000 contractions happen
to get this poop out. It seems like it's just a very slow process and just kind of
molds it into a little square or a cube. Yeah. I mean, we have like a pretty long digestive
tract, but the wombats intestines are 10 times longer than the wombat itself. And its digestion
process takes about four times longer than a human's. It gets every bit of moisture and water out
of it, every nutrient it can possibly get. So it poops out these very dry cubed poops and it does
that because the digestive process takes so long. But the other key to it too, Chuck, is that the
contractions of moving the poop through the intestines in basically every other animal on
earth, those contractions and the movements are the same everywhere around the intestine.
Right. The wombat is, as far as we know, the only animal that has different sections that move
differently at different times. And that's what produces the edges and the squares and the shape
of the square poop. They finally figured it out. It's one of those things where it helps a lot
if you're a biomechanics researcher because they are not the best at explaining things. So it's
kind of hard to get. It's one of the things that you just have to say, oh, the intestines move
differently than other intestines and it has the time to create these sides and shapes.
Yeah. I mean, it's almost like a perfect little square compression machine.
You know, it's set up to be that way, which sort of lends itself to the question like,
well, why is this happening then? If it's this perfect little machine making these
little square poops that frankly look quite delicious and edible because they're so dry,
it looks like a little candy treat or something. It just sunk in what you just said.
What? You just said wombat poops look delicious.
They do. It looks like a little chocolate confection to me. Okay.
I mean, if you put one on a bunch of them on a plate at a party, I might actually mistake one.
Did you just make air quotes when you said mistake?
Jerk. All right. It lends itself to the question like, why is this happening?
Why is it making these perfect little cube poops? Who has an idea that, hey, maybe these things
poop on rocks and tree logs and branches and stuff to mark their area and obviously something
square will sit better and maybe evolutionarily speaking, that's just what happened over the
years. Yeah. And I mean, his guess is as good as any. He's the one who dissected the wombats and
found the whole intestine thing. And actually, I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I haven't heard
any rival explanations, I should say. No. I mean, he got an ignoble prize, right?
He definitely did. And he's saying like, I'm a biomechanics guy. He published, by the way,
the article in the journal Soft Matter, for real. And he's saying like, there's biomechanically
speaking, we could probably use how the wombats and testins work as some sort of model or
inspiration for shaping other things. But really, the most immediate practical application it has
is that the drier and square wombat poop is, the healthier the wombat is. So it can be used as a
measure or a standard for wombat kept in captivity. Oh, well, that's good. Yeah. So who's like,
I'm contributing. I'm not just a wombat murderer. I'm contributing in the greater good.
They're just those two. Let's not talk about them. Yeah. You just take a bite. You go, oh,
super dry. That's a healthy wombat. Right. Pass it around in the order trade and see what happens.
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