Suggestible - A Bouquet of Gems
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James, I have a bone to pick with you.
Oh, me specifically?
No, not really.
Just life in general.
Why don't you tell it to our guest, Chris Hemsworth?
Do you have Chris Hemsworth on your list of suggestibles?
No.
Oh, that is so weird.
He's the first one on my list.
Why?
Just in general?
Why?
Take a look at Chris Hemsworth.
Take a look at his Instagram.
Correct.
Well, I've been thinking about things to cheer you up, and by God.
Mine are very cheery this week.
How come you said Chris Hemsworth straight up?
He's my go-to celebrity. I think I've used it on the Weekly Planet, my more successful
podcast, to be like, I'm with Chris Hemsworth and Nick Mason is like, why would you do that?
Oh, Mason's just as handsome as Chris Hemsworth.
What are you talking about? No, he's not. What a ridiculous thing to say.
Anyway, hello. This is Suggestible Podcast, the podcast where we recommend you things
to watch and listen to. I am Claire. I'm here with my husband, ball and chain.
That's right.
James Clement.
And I'm here to lure you in with promises of Chris Hemsworth.
Well, it's just so funny.
Literally, the first thing I have on my list here is Chris Hemsworth Twitter video pump up.
Okay.
What do you got?
All right.
So my sister sent me this.
She's been sending me a lot of recommendations recently.
Thanks, old sis. She's like the only other person I'm seeing at the moment. She's also younger than you. So, you sent me this. She's been sending me a lot of recommendations recently. Thanks, old sis.
She's like the only other person I'm seeing at the moment.
She's also younger than you, so you know.
Yeah, she also has no kids, so she's got time.
That's right.
Anyway, Chris Hemsworth just gives you a pump up.
It's a video on Twitter where he just talks to you, you specifically.
Me?
Out there, anyone.
It says, James, I love your less successful podcast, suggestible.
I love your muscles.
What do you do to keep so svelte?
Don't patronize me, Claire.
Anyway, it's literally, it's just him talking into a camera and just pumping you up and
telling me you're literally doing brilliantly.
You're crashing everything at life.
You're a legend.
And ordinarily I would be like, well, this seems ridiculous, but I'll bloody take anything
to cheer me up at the moment in this lockdown
because we're currently living under a lockdown in Melbourne.
You know we are.
We bloody are.
And anyway, it's Chris Hemsworth,
and I've just forgotten what liquid gold of a human being he is.
Oh, yeah, he's very charming.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's so bloody charming.
Yeah.
My favourite of the Hemsworth brothers.
He also lives in Byron Bay, which is like living the dream.
That's right.
Well, that's what we're going to do one day, isn't it?
And you also showed me a video of him just recently as well, didn't you,
on something – he was doing something funny.
He said something funny and you showed it to me and it was very funny.
Potentially, yeah, maybe.
Oh, gosh, that's not a good recommendation.
Yeah, but I did and I agree.
That was really good.
Yeah.
Anyway, so if you want a little bit of a pump up, go watch that.
He does that center health app thing as well.
It's all about celebrities, but they help you get fit like Chris Hemsworth or whatever.
You can speak to Chris Hemsworth's dietician or whatever.
Well, let's do that.
We have got his personal trainer's cookbook.
Well, his personal trainer started off as a mate and his mate went, I'm going to get fit and then train Chris Hemsworth.
That's essentially what happened.
That's living the dream though, right?
That's a little bit like entourage.
Yeah, you bought his recipe book.
Charlie Clawson got me onto it.
He was like, you should check out this guy's Instagram.
He does like fun recipes.
He'll do like a zucchini eggplant parma or whatever.
He'll basically replace vegetables in delicious food.
He does some good stuff there.
He'll do some other stuff.
How many of those recipes have you cooked?
You've had that book cooked.
No, no, I'm talking about on his Instagram.
I'm checking out on his Instagram.
Oh, you're Instagramming.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
Okay, so someone else recommended.
Actually, some of his recipes are quite good.
Some of them look better in the picture and when you eat them,
you're like, oh, that's right.
Having a whole zucchini instead of pasta is not as good.
They're like, what about zoodles?
It's like zucchini.
Shut up.
It's just not as good.
I served zoodles to our son this week.
He was very unimpressed.
He's not having it, mate.
I said, they're zoodles.
It's just like pasta.
And he looked at me and I said, you're right, mate.
It's not pasta.
But eat it.
But eat it anyway.
It's good for you.
Yeah.
Oh, gosh. All right. What's yours? Oh. It's good for you. Yeah. Oh, gosh.
All right.
What's yours?
Oh, I didn't tell you my bone.
Oh, what's your bone?
My bone is just that I'm currently wearing glasses with only one handle.
Oh, because you're talking to me like I did it.
You're like, I've got a bone to pick with you.
Like someone sat on them and broke them.
You sat on them.
I was there.
No.
Yes.
No.
Someone else.
You were wrestling.
No.
This is what happened.
And someone snapped the glasses.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And all they said, I can't get to my optometrist.
They're bloody shot.
I don't know what to do.
So now I'm watching TV on an angle with like the glasses like tilted diagonally.
You literally sat on them.
They were sitting next to me on the bed.
I remember when I got on because I was like, I'm not going to crush these.
And then you sat on them. All right. Well me on the bed i remember when i got on because i was like i'll be i'm not gonna crush these and then you sat on them all right we'll find however they
were broken most likely by you but anyway however they were broken i saw you do it all i'm saying is
i'm slowly going mad and now i tried to wear contacts instead of my glasses and then i got
the contact lens stuck under my lid and i have say, you redeemed yourself for sitting on my glasses. Excuse me.
You got the contact lens out of my eyeball.
I did two great things.
I didn't break your glasses and I rescued you from a contact
that was stuck up inside your eyes.
Yeah, and so now I can't wear my contacts anymore
because I'm too scared that I'll get stuck up there
and then there'll be no one to help because of coronavirus.
There's a solution to this also.
What's the solution?
Just have 20-20 vision like me and all of these problems disappear.
I can't sit on my own eyes.
What the hell is that?
That doesn't even make any sense.
We are slowly going mad.
Anyway, I would recommend having glasses with two handles, not just one.
Well, I recommend, ready for me to recommend my thing?
Shoot away.
I recommend Fast and Furious Crossroads, the video game.
No, that's just because me and Mason were talking about it.
It's a 40-minute documentary on Netflix called The Speed Cubers,
which you might have heard about.
So it follows two people.
One is this guy called Felix.
He's like the Rubik's Cube solving guy.
And there's a number of things you can, like, there's an,
you know how everything's got like a subculture.
There's this huge international speed cubing community,
which people that have holds like tournaments and exhibitions.
And they filled out one of the Melbourne exhibition center,
like stadiums to do this thing.
Right.
It's like another one of those,
my little pony kind of thing.
Yeah.
But it's,
it's literally people like,
it's just nice. I guess some of them slightly nerdy people like solving rubik's cubes or being enthralled
by people solving rubik's cubes right it is cool it's really great and so this guy felix is
australian he's from melbourne he's just he's probably and he's like when the by the time they
film this in his late teens early 20s and he's just like a nice guy. He's like friendly. He's really encouraging,
right? This guy, but all of a sudden he, and also he's holds the record for the most,
for the, for the, for the crown jewel of speed cubing, which is, uh, which is the, the solving
the three by three Rubik's cube, you know, the standard one, but there's other ones where you
can do like 20 and some you solve with your feet and some you do blindfolded. I mean, they have all these different kind of things,
but that's like the thing.
And he got his in about 6.5 seconds or whatever, like solved a cube,
which is incredible.
You watch them do it and it's amazing, right?
Oh, yeah.
I can't do it.
If you gave me like endless time.
Once you know like the formula, it's pretty easy to puzzle out once you know,
but then it becomes down to speed.
And you pick it up off the mat the time it starts,
you throw it back down the time it stops.
That's how it works.
Anyway, when he's kind of at the peak of his game,
a rival appears by the name of Max, who's this kid from the US,
and he's maybe 12 when he starts doing it.
He's like severely autistic and it's about,
not just about him kind of solving Rubik's Cube, it is,
but it's about that's his road in that his parents see for him
to kind of become more involved as a member of society
because growing up he was very withdrawn.
Like the parents knew something was wrong where they couldn't quite,
you know, figure out what was going on even from birth and he was diagnosed and all of a sudden all their dreams
about their son and all the things that they'd want to see him do they go out the window and
you know and you've got to read readjust your expectations so he ends up being in these kind
of mid to late teens in the documentary but he's kind of got the the probably the mind of a seven
year old in terms of like emotional capacity so but what ends up happening is he starts beating this other kid's,
Felix's, starts slowly winning all of these tournaments
and taking all these prizes.
But he looks up to Felix as like this mentor figure.
And then, and so Felix kind of takes him under his wing
and they become kind of like, they're not, I mean,
they're rivals essentially, but they're friends.
That's what it comes down to.
And it's like one of those things that you see, you you know when when you've seen this at school i'd imagine because we have like prep buddies and grade
six buddies which is what you do at school where an older kid mentors a younger kid and they do
the similar thing in high school whatever but that's what that's what it sort of becomes and
so whenever he you know he he looks to this guy for example for example so one time when they're
standing up on the podium he looks next to him him and he sees how the other kids are standing
when they win.
And so he adjusts himself.
And that was a huge moment for the parents because that's something
that apparently I'm way out of.
I used to know more about autism and things like that when I was a teacher.
But that's one of the things that you look for them to do where they look
to other kids too, for example.
Do you know what I mean?
So they're looking outside of their shell. And that was a huge moment. Do you know what i mean so looking outside of their shell and that was a huge moment do you know i mean the things like this so it's and it's and
it's also taught him like fine motor skills because he wasn't really that was another thing
that kind of suffered because of his condition and again now suddenly he's got this incredible
dexterity so it's it's about competition like it is but it's more about watching these two
the friendship blossom and especially this kid max who you see him like he would have tantrums when he'd lose and then adjust
to be like it's okay you know there'll be and there's always next year and i did my best and
all these kinds of things it's amazing like it's like 40 minutes but it's so heartwarming like you
will love it like you really love it it's incredible i i just i it's it's like the perfect
length also you know what i mean like
watching and i'm like i could watch another hour of this like easy yeah but it's and that's a great
way to actually finish a documentary i think when you feel like you could keep watching it rather
than it dragging yeah i loved it i really loved it and i highly recommend if you're looking for
something uplifting yeah and it's also really emotional because especially but even with felix
like he ends up going to the the last tournament that you see in the in the in the dock it's held in Melbourne and he's from Melbourne so
he's family there and everything and that's a that's a family of friends and that's a whole
other thing and Max flies in and you know what I mean and they're hanging out together and
and Max suddenly becomes like he's like six foot two he's like enormous and it's this it's fun it's
and it's really fun and yeah it's it's and I also I also love subcultures of things,
especially if it's got a really healthy community,
which I'm not sure there are elements of it that aren't, no doubt.
But just seeing these two guys put such a positive face on this thing.
Because I don't know if you've seen The King of Kong,
about the Donkey Kong tournament.
There's a villain in that.
There's the guy.
He's like the evil Donkey Kong player.
And there's none of that.
It doesn't operate.
And I love that movie.
Don't get me wrong.
I think that movie's great.
But this is all, this is more uplifting, especially if you've got young kids or, you know, you
know somebody with, you know, autism, then this is, yeah, this is a really interesting
insight into the world.
Oh, I just, I'm so with you about subcultures and about hobbies, which, I mean, I know subcultures become more than just a
hobby.
I don't want to diminish that, but I think that's what human beings are designed to have
passions and things that we love.
And that's what life's about, really, isn't it?
About finding something that you love so much and then connecting with other people that
also love that thing so much.
And that's what the internet, I think, has given us, that you might be the only person in your community who loves doing Rubik's Cube,
but there'll be hundreds, thousands of people across the world when you connect.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, I love that.
It's strange because, like, I guess it's kind of like what we do.
Like, nobody knows who the fuck we are, like, in our lives.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, nobody cares.
None of our friends care.
But then every now and then we'll do a live event, like, you know,
at the Redder People's Shop.
We're like, oh, yeah, that's right.
People watch this.
And our friends get really amused.
Yeah, they're like, what is going on here?
Yeah, they really understand.
But just the idea that, yeah, and it's the positivity
that I really took away from it.
And it was kind of also heartbreak.
The parents are so wonderful as well, the way that they – because when you when you've you've got a kid with a with a disability or anything
they don't meet an expectation i guess neurotypical yeah exactly sorry yeah that's the way to put it
i'm not always up to up on my phrase and i apologize like i try to keep ahead
yeah but uh but then you it's like you almost have to mourn the death of the person that
you know you thought they would be.
You know what I mean?
All your expectations for them.
Yeah, you have to reframe your whole expectations.
But the way that they adjust is really wonderful.
And they're so proud of him and whatever.
And they've just got this.
And the way that his mum, he didn't respond to his mum at all initially
when he was young.
And then slowly they formed this bond.
And it's just incredible.
Like, it's amazing.
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fine it's so amazing and often for um people autism, it can be through a passion like that,
that people can connect with them and they can connect with other people
because they do – and look, it's a spectrum
and there's so many different ways of being with that disorder.
Of course.
And I've talked about this before.
Like a lot of the time you won't even know.
Like I've taught kids that like you wouldn't know
or even undiagnosed kids, you know what I mean?
Exactly, yeah.
And you know what this reminds me of and I have it on my list,
Love on the Spectrum is a show that I've talked about previously
but it's now on Netflix.
So it was an Australian show that was on the ABC a while ago
and I talked about it on a previous episode and it's about people
with autism falling in love or trying to find love, I should say,
more than falling in love, trying to find love and going on dates.
Yeah.
And it's just so sweet and gorgeous and interesting
because really it's a look at their families
and their relationship with their families
and also like that universal idea that just because you might not be
neurotypical it doesn't mean that you're not looking for love.
Yeah, and you're not deserving of that also.
Yeah, exactly.
And also their perspective on the world and on love is so fascinating too.
And you see from couples who are both on the spectrum
and have found each other, there's just some really gorgeous
and hilarious moments.
It's so touching and quite uplifting.
My friend Joe was like, he was talking to me the other day
and he goes, Claire would love it.
And I'm like, oh, she's all over it.
Yeah, I watched it on the internet.
Yeah, I just loved it. And it reminded me of oh, she's like, she's all right. Oh, she's all over it. Yeah, I watched it on the air. Yeah.
Yeah, I just, I loved it. And it reminded me of kids that I've taught and families that I've met.
Yeah, it's gorgeous.
I hate, and I've talked about this on my more successful podcast,
the way that they use like autism and things like that as like superpowers
or like an excuse for somebody to be rude in a show where they're like,
he's the doctor, but he's rude.
He doesn't understand social cues, but he's the best. but he's almost like a superpower and he's got like you
know there's like yeah he's like rain man and really fucking annoys me because like it's not
a superpower do you know what i mean like it's not it just and really you know and it's not like
just people like slapping their heads and screaming which a lot of time you see in shows
and movies and it just really pisses me off. And just to see something like this and Love on the Spectrum, it's really nice.
I think the other thing that's really interesting about Love on the Spectrum is it looks at
women with autism.
Yes.
And how...
Because that's not as common, isn't it?
Well, this is what's interesting.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
That's right.
You mentioned this.
Yeah.
So in Love on the Spectrum, they talk about this, that, you know, the majority of time men, more, you know,
boys have been diagnosed with autism than girls by quite a lot,
a big margin.
But what they're starting to discover now is that it's possibly
because girls' behaviours tend to go under the radar
and present differently.
So their autism will present differently to boys.
And often they're able.
They can hide it, isn't that right?
Yeah, they can hide it better or they're able to kind of socially correct
in ways that boys not, and this is just such a general sweeping
generalisation.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
Everyone's different.
But, yeah, so often their diagnosis has kind of been hidden,
which then actually can hinder women who do have autism because you don't actually then have an understanding
of why you are the way you are.
So do often they not know that they are autistic?
It's just like the way that they operate?
Yeah.
Well, it's just been underdiagnosed in girls, they think,
and it presents differently.
But people who have it, who are girls, don't know that they've got it.
Is that what I'm talking about?
Possibly, yeah.
It can be that way, yeah, depending on their diagnosis
and the journey that they've gone through.
But I guess, and look, this is also very different for everyone,
but having an understanding of why things are more difficult for you
and having a label.
Sometimes people sort of talk about a label being limiting,
but in some ways it's also freeing because it makes you understand more
about yourself and understand more about your world and then connecting
with other people who also see the world in a similar way to you.
Yes.
And so it can be quite empowering to understand why things are harder
for you than others.
When I was at uni, we had a really amazing lecturer.
Is this the lecturer you were talking about?
I think you've told me about this.
Yeah, I was about to ask you, but yeah, so go on.
Yeah, so he was an educational psychologist and he worked with a lot of adults who were
diagnosed with autism later in life.
And he said particularly what was interesting where they were often really highly functioning members of society. Like for instance, he spoke to a judge who came to him
in her forties and said, look, I want to talk to you about what I think is going on for me.
And I'm trying to understand myself. And she brought out this book and she had written,
to become a judge, you have to be so accomplished,
but social cues were so difficult for her that she had literally
written down every person that she knew in her life,
whether it was the doorman or a colleague or a friend or a parent
or anyone in her life, including in the courtroom,
and she'd written next to them the facial expression she needed to make
how um her body and mannerisms should be depending on how familiar she was with that person you know
like if it was a colleague you have to say hi jim how are the kids and wave and smile but if it is
the coffee shop owner you don't need to ask them personal questions because you don't know them so
you can just smile and nod.
So she was so intelligent that she was able to like map things that you just take for granted that you can just do.
Yeah, and so she was operating her entire life with like a second curriculum
and we talk about that with kids who have autism
or other learning difficulties or disabilities
that they've got a second curriculum going on
in the background all the time, even just kids who are coming from difficult home lives
or if they've experienced grief.
So they might be trying to learn in the classroom, but the whole time they've also got this other
thing running underneath them that they're coping with.
And look, it doesn't just have to, yeah, it's all kinds of things.
And I think sometimes that rings true for a lot of people.
Maybe you've been diagnosed with an illness and you're continuing
to go on with your day.
And I think that's why I talked to you a bit about, you know,
we just don't know why people act the way they do when we see them
because of maybe what's happening for them.
Anyway, but isn't that incredible to think that she became a judge
but the level of intellect she had to have and how hard she was working to maintain the social cues
and a structure within society while also being a really highly
accomplished person in her field, it blows my mind.
And I think especially now in the time we're living in COVID,
more broadly,
I just think so people have all got stories and are going through things that we can't even comprehend or understand.
And so, God, we just have to be a little bit kind.
Yeah.
Don't we?
Anyway, that was a long tangent.
No, no, I think that's good, yeah.
That's fascinating me as well.
Yeah, don't you think?
Because it's one of those things like you think about it when you meet someone,
you're like, oh, I'm being weird.
Oh, I'm standing too close.
You know what I mean?
Oh, I should have said that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
But then that's a whole other level.
Yeah, to have that as a – yeah, yeah.
Because I still feel like I'm constantly like adjusting and learning
when I meet people and be like, oh, that's not a cool thing to say
or, you know, back up a bit or,
oh, no, fuck that guy, whatever.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Like it's, yeah, it's this balance that you're constantly working on.
Yeah.
Yeah, even how to hold.
I remember being a kid and trying to figure out how to hold my arms.
I went really long with my arms and I never knew how to hold them.
So I'd have really long like sleeves and I'd pull my sleeves over my hands.
Yeah.
Because then at least I felt like I was doing something with my arms.
And our son does that.
That's why sometimes he's got the long sleeves.
Yeah, he does.
And that's, I think, part of parenthood too, that as you become a parent,
the things in your life that you struggled with can present themselves in your kids.
Yeah, I recognize things that like traits that I have in our, well,
other kids are baby, but, you know, but yeah, I definitely said like,
he's not me obviously, but there are things that I recognize.
Yeah.
Those things I recognize.
I'm like, I know this, like, and I see what's going on here.
Or I think I do at least maybe I'd.
Yeah.
I know it is.
It's really fascinating.
Yeah.
This whole concept.
Anyway, I would highly recommend Love on the Spectrum and was it Speedcubing?
The Speedcubing.
What is it?
The Speedcubers.
The Speedcubers.
And that's on Netflix too?
That's on Netflix, yeah.
Fantastic.
Again, 40 minutes.
Bloody banger.
Fantastic.
Any quick stuff.
I'm all over that.
What are you about?
All right.
So I've just got a few other small bits of things.
So can I recommend it in a little bouquet of recommendations?
All right. One is a song. It's called Pasta by Angie McMahon, who is an Australian singer,
songwriter and musician from Melbourne, Victoria. McMahon released her debut studio album Salt in
2019. It's alternative indie. It sounds a little similar to Courtney Barnett, who I've spoken about
before, who I love. If you haven't checked her out, you really should.
A little bit like Thelma Plum, who sang that song Homecoming Queen.
I do not know that song.
I might know it if I heard it.
Oh, the homecoming queen.
No, no, no.
I really summed that up.
Anyway, she's brilliant.
And The Preachers.
So that's another band that I love.
So anyway, but this particular song, Pass It Out,
just sums up my feelings during lockdown so perfectly.
Positive stuff?
It's not even really that it's positive.
It's more just that it kind of sums up that mood
and I think it's maybe more a mood when you're in your 20s
and you don't have kids around where you're just kind of like stuck at home
and you're eating pasta and you're watching too much TV
or you're spending too much time on your phone and you're bored
and you're restless and you're staring out the window
and you're a little bit like all over the shop.
Oh, I'd love to be bored.
Anyway, yeah, I know, right?
However, so it kind of takes me back into that feeling of being my 20s,
but it also kind of just touches on that feeling of being just constantly at home.
Yeah, yeah.
And the mundane kind of stuff about it.
But also she's just a brilliant musician and her music is great to listen to.
So I think it's Melbourne, A Mood.
Oh, my God.
Passed up by Angie McMahon.
Maybe Collins can play a tiny bit of it at the end of this episode.
So that's one thing in my bouquet of recommendations.
Another thing is.
How many flowers to this bouquet, Claire, if you don't mind me asking? Only a couple. I'm just checking. It's not really a bouquet then, is it thing is... How many flowers to this bouquet, Claire,
if you don't mind me asking?
Only a couple.
I'm just checking.
It's not really a bouquet then, is it?
It's like three flowers.
All right, fine.
Let me just recommend something.
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So Lucy Peach, who I've talked about before, who's a beautiful musician from Perth,
who I spoke to on my podcast, Just Make the Thing. She does some hilarious comedy stand up about periods. Oh gosh, here I go again. But she's also written a book recently and also has a companion podcast to go with it.
It's called Period Queen and it's a lovely read, especially if you've got someone in
your life who's maybe getting their period or having their period for the first time
or is a teenager.
I think it's a beautiful gift to give them to think about women's bodies in a way that's
empowering and uplifting and
also really nurturing.
I think that's what I love about Lucy Peach's writing and her music because she's also written
songs as well that are accompanying the book and the podcast.
And they all kind of go through the different phases of a woman's cycle.
And they actually help me, the songs too.
I think particularly when I'm hormonal in different stages, her songs really reflect how I feel. So I just think it's great.
It's all on Spotify. So you can go and check out her podcast and also her music, Period Queen,
and then her book as well is available wherever you get good books or I just got mine on my Kindle.
Bookstores.
Yeah, bookstores.
But there's just lots of lovely nurturing ideas to do for yourself
wherever you are in your cycle.
And I love her.
I think she's really inspiring.
I also follow her on Instagram.
She's gorgeous.
So Period Queen by Lucy Peach.
Another gem in my bookie.
That's not how bookies work.
All right.
One last one is the high low,
which probably should not be in a bouquet and should be in a whole section of itself. But
I adore this podcast. I've really only just gotten into it during lockdown. People have
recommended it to me forever and I kind of jumped in and out and hadn't really found the right
episode. It's a weekly conversation between
writers Dolly Alderton and Pandora Sykes. It covers highbrow and lowbrow culture.
Their book recommendations and their little snippets of writing and their interviews are
just brilliant. They're both really fantastic journalists and writers and highly intelligent,
but also just really across everything that I love anyway in terms
of pop culture and the high brow and the low brow of stuff that we're reading at the moment.
But they're also just lovely friends and so it's really nice to hear a friendship like that
on a podcast and their voices are nice and British and soothing and there's loads of episodes.
So I would highly recommend that.
Okay, that's my little bouquet.
Wonderful, of three gems.
Of three little roses.
I've got others, but I feel like I'm talking too much.
No, no, that's fine.
What time have we got?
We're all right.
Okay, so my other little gem is, or rose in my bouquet,
is How to Train Your Drag in the Hidden World on Netflix.
Oh, my goodness, yeah.
It's a great kids' movie.
It's just a great kids' movie, but it's also a really beautiful-looking movie.
It's the third one in the How to Train Your Dragon sort of trilogy.
My son loves it, but I loved it too.
It's a great movie.
They're a great series of films.
Yeah, it's just really great to find a film that you also enjoy
as well as your kids, you know?
You know?
I know.
You know, do you know?
Yeah, and so they're my little bouquet of gems.
Dirty John, Betty Broderick.
Here we go.
The show on Netflix.
Do you want to get into this?
Are you going to recommend it?
I wasn't going to bring it up, but I've watched it.
I was going to bring it up next week.
I don't really want to get into it.
All I'll say is it was very gripping.
It's the second series of Dirty John and I really enjoyed the first series.
However, and Amanda Peet plays the main character, Betty.
She's amazing.
And she's brilliant, isn't it?
It's just a brilliant.
She was in the movie Evil Woman with Jason Biggs and Steve Zahn and Jack Black, I think.
There you go.
And Christian Slater plays her husband, Dan, or ex-husband.
Look, it's really gripping.
It just gave me a bit of nightmares and I feel like it wasn't the best thing to watch.
It was harrowing, man.
Yeah, it was really harrowing.
Well, because you've literally just finished.
Do you want to talk about it next week maybe?
Do you want to give it a bit of time and come back to it?
Yeah, let's talk about it next week.
I mean, if you want something really gripping, go for it.
I didn't realize it was coming out and I just saw it on Netflix and then, huh.
And then I started watching it and I'm like, oh, my God.
I know.
I couldn't stop. I couldn stop but had nightmares i had to come out at like 10 30 last night and get you to give me a hug oh is that why you came out yeah you're
like another hug and i'm like we never hug what's going on here it was just one of those ones where
i wish that i hadn't watched it but i couldn't look away oh no it's like that other have we
already talked about gone in the dark yes i'll be on the dark
yeah but you hadn't started it no but you talked about it yeah it was the same it left me and i
maybe because and i think because of isolation that we're doing at the moment my mental state
i'm really protective of it that's why i'm all about locking the doors all the time and then
when i check every night i make sure everything's all locked up because of that show I just I've always been like that but now I really do it like the
other day when I always out the back and I saw someone come to the front door and then disappear
I'm like who'd you see what was that dog was barking what and you're like it's probably nobody
probably like mail of it and there's no mail somebody came to the door it's locked down who's
coming to the door and I'm still like I'm still like who was that I don't know. He's losing his mind, guys. I'm still like, who was that? I don't know if it was anyone.
It might have been someone checking the water meter or the NBN guys.
No.
Who knows?
I know something.
This is not that interesting for listeners.
No, well.
I've got something interesting then.
Do you want me to go?
Because I've got one.
Fire away.
This is a show on Apple Plus, TV Plus.
Apple TV Plus.
TV for apples.
What is happening here? It's called Ted Lasso. Apple TV Plus. TV for apples. What is happening here?
It's called Ted Lasso.
I don't know how you say it depending where you're from.
It stars Jason Sudeikis.
Do you know him?
No.
You'd know him if you saw him.
Hannah Waddingham.
Juno Temple.
Brendan Hunt.
Brett Goldstein, among others.
And it's about a small-time football coach, guy from the US.
He coaches college football. among others and it's about a small time football coach guy from the u.s he coaches like um college
college football and he has this like incredible dream run he's got this like he's got this uh
he's kind of this long shot positive force of energy that's what kind of what he's known for
and then he's hired to coach a professional soccer team or football team as they say in england
in england so despite having no experience in coaching soccer at all
and never even having seen it and not knowing any of the rules he's he takes on this job but
it turns out that the owner who brought him over she only brought him over because she inherited
the club from her husband who was cheating on her for years and she just wants to destroy it
so that's why she's hired this guy she's like he loves football so much so i'm gonna hire this like buffoon to like ruin it but here's the thing like he he kind of brings this like it's really he's
really well done because jason sudeikis is like he can be quite quite crude and quite cutting and
you know and quite quite funny just funny in this but he's this really wholesome genuine kind of
southern charm kind of dude that comes in and he's got all those different players
and people to contend with like one of the play because they're all sports stars one's like a
narcissist and one's like a grizzled vet and one of them like is the guy who gets the towels but
he gets picked on a lot by all the other ones and he just kind of systematically goes to all of them
and tries to figure out like what's the thing that makes them tick how can i motivate them how can i
better myself all these kinds of things.
And he slowly starts to win everybody over,
including like the general public who hate him because he's this American who
doesn't know anything coming over to teach soccer.
Do you know what I mean?
Or coming over to coach soccer.
It's wonderful, man.
You should definitely check it out.
It's really fun.
It's a blast.
That sounds awesome.
Where can you get it?
Apple Plus, which we have because I got a phone,
so we get it for a year.
Excellent.
Again, as I say every time with Apple Plus,
I wouldn't buy it otherwise, but I have it.
And every now and every like three months I'm like, oh, yeah.
That's a thing.
That's a thing, yeah.
And what's it called?
It's called Ted Lasso.
Ted Lasso.
A lasso.
All right, that sounds great.
It's great.
It's really great.
So I think now it's weekly.
So there's been three and there's going to be one this weekend.
And it's free. You don't have to pay for it within Apple Plus if you've got it. Yeah. it's weekly. So there's been three and there's going to be one this weekend. And it's free.
You don't have to pay for it within Apple Plus if you've got it.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's cool.
All right.
I'm totally into that.
Get into it.
Get into it, mate.
Get it up here.
All right.
Well, that's the end of the show.
Oh, my goodness.
No, we've hit the end.
Well, finally, I feel.
Thank the Lord.
Do you want me to bring up the reviews for the week?
Yes, certainly, sir.
I've got one right here. You do that me to bring up the reviews for the week? Yes, certainly, sir. I've got one right here.
You do that while I bring up the old emailies.
Great.
This is from Six Simple says,
a nice couple that I don't want to strangle.
Five stars.
You can do that in app.
Did you know that?
In app, five stars, bang it out.
It's a great podcast.
It's like having a dinner party with a couple
that doesn't make you want to gouge out your eyes.
Warning, sometimes they talk about vaginas. that's on you though that's not on me
if anything so what a lovely review and thank you to all the people who review it really helps us
out podcast there's a million billion i went on a pod bay this is where i get the reviews from
oh yes and there's like it's like search for a podcast there's like 18 million podcasts on there
oh my god so uh it's pretty like legitimately 18 million podcasts on there. Oh, my God. Like legitimately 18 million.
Yeah, that's what it says.
Jesus.
And that's only the ones through this.
It's only including like others.
Imagine, because when you started the old Weekly Planet,
your less successful podcast.
How dare you?
Go on.
Got him.
How many podcasts do you reckon were out there?
Oh, there were tapes.
There would have been thousands at that point.
Yeah, but not millions.
Yeah, I think we started a really good time. What I don't like, and I've talked
about this before, I'm sure, but I don't like how they're dominated by celebrities now, which
is fine for me. What do I care? Our one goes along, we've got an audience and it grows or
doesn't. I've no idea. I should look at it all. But yeah, it would be harder if you're not like,
guess what? I'm a comedian or guess what?
I have a TV show and I also do a podcast.
And now with lockdown there's probably even more.
You know, it's harder and harder I feel.
So I'm not trying to discourage people from doing it.
You should absolutely do it.
Yeah, for sure.
But it's harder.
How they're like, this celebrity is reinventing podcasts.
It's like, are they?
Yeah, I know.
The thing that really gets me the most is radio stations have now all come on board
and they think they know podcasting because they take their radio show
and they put it online as a digital version of the show.
They know jack shit.
And look, that's a legitimate way of listening to a radio show, obviously,
but a podcast is just so much broader and deeper than that.
And, I mean, we talk for half an hour, well, a bit longer today on a podcast,
but some of the craft that goes into podcasts that people make now.
I mean, not us, but yeah.
Yeah, that's what I mean, not us.
I mean, we're just talking, but I just think it's so much
and it's so different to a medium on the radio.
It's just the subject matter is so much deeper
and you can just build such a wonderful connection with the audience
and the hosts that you listen to.
I don't know.
And so that just annoys me that radio stations are like,
we know podcasting.
We put our radio show on the podcast.
And every time we like associate because every now and then like a radio
will contact us and be like, why don't you come in and teach us
about podcasting or whatever.
It's like you can figure it out.
You'll be right.
You've got all the money and all the dollar.
Don't you just put up another fucking billboard.
You'll be right.
Whoa.
All right.
I've got an email because talking about listeners and hosts and all the
peeps, we love it.
When you write to us, thank you so much.
We're all about community engagement.
Artificial or not. Oh no. And so if you want to write to the. Thank you so much for writing in. We're all about community engagement. We bloody are. Artificial or not.
Oh, no.
And so if you want to write to the show with a suggestion,
you can email it at suggestiblepod at gmail.com,
just like Georgia Day has.
Hi, Claire and James.
An explanation.
I listened to Suggestible right before bed last week
and dreamt I was helping you move house.
Oh.
Yeah.
This is why, because her subject matter for the email is tasty walls
it's like a willy walker thing yeah and that's what i thought as well it's like blueberry um
claire got stressed and licked a wall yes that is licked and not kicked so that's the deal with the
clickbait subject line i wonder why i was licking walls in her dream crazy that's up to her that's
not up to you. Correct.
That's on her subconscious.
That is on her.
Yes.
All right.
So anyway, thanks for the many suggestibles and good banter over the past few months.
I've started reading Dark Emi, which Claire recommended a thousand episodes ago, and it's fascinating.
As a Brit, our national curriculum somehow just skips all of the horrific colonial history.
So it's really good to read this sort of stuff and learn some new things.
I totally agree.
And time for some suggestibles.
I love suggestibles.
Yeah.
So for Claire, what we did on our holiday 2014,
a lighthearted comedy with David Tennant and Rosamund Pike.
Have you seen this?
What was it?
So it's called?
What we did on our holiday.
I haven't seen it it but i know what this
is and i've been because he's like a celebrity or something no yeah it's about no it's about
taking the kids to see their granddad trying to hide their impending divorce from the extended
family yeah i love david tenet speaking of someone as a celebrity who does a podcast
i actually really like david ten oh yeah i'm not saying celebrities shouldn't do stuff. No, no.
Not at all.
And especially David Tennant because he's a delight.
He's a delight.
Yeah, she says it's funny, heartwarming,
and the kid actors are genuinely brilliant.
Also on BBC iPlayer and probably other places.
And the second one isn't so light and breezy,
American Son on Netflix. It's about a black woman who's trying to find out what happened
to her son after hearing he was in a traffic stop. And it's
an excellently written 90-minute film.
It's basically a masterclass of screenwriting
and there's only four characters
and it takes place in a single room in
a police station. Like a bottle episode.
Yeah. Moving, harrowing, poignant
and the acting is world class.
Keep up the good work,
mates. Georgia T.
Day. Great stuff. Thank you, Georgia T. Day. the good work, mates. Georgia T. Day. Great stuff.
Thank you, Georgia T. Day.
Plus she said, P.S., there's a man in my ham sandwich.
Explain that reference.
That's from a How Do Daughters skit.
It's one of my favorites.
It's called The School Nurse.
It's hilarious.
It's really funny.
They come in with different bizarre ailments and it's just really funny.
It is so good. Yeah. All right. That's it. That's's just really funny. It is so good.
Yeah.
All right.
That's it.
That's it, I think.
It's all it.
Next week I guess we'll talk about Dear John, season two, Dirty John,
whatever it's called.
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
It's so depressing.
I can't be watching any of this dark content.
It's definitely more kind of ambiguous in terms of, I mean,
the guy's like a bastard.
Like that's evident.
But there's some things that you're like, oh, why are you doing that?
Like you're ruining everything for like your family.
And yourself.
I mean, obviously, we'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it next week.
Yeah.
It's an interesting look at a crime.
It is, yeah.
There's been a few iterations of that particular crime story.
Yes.
And it's interesting because it seems like it has had ramifications
for similar cases since, which I find really fascinating as well.
So anyway, I guess we'll probably talk about it next week,
but we might not.
All right.
All right.
So long.
So long.
And enjoy listening to Pastor by Angie McMahon
through the wonders of Collings.
Is Collings going to sing it?
Yeah, he will. Oh, my God. I know. You know what the wonders of Collings. Is Collings going to sing it? Yeah, he will.
Oh, my God.
I know.
You know what?
I bet Collings could play guitar.
He can bloody do everything.
I bet it's like the one thing he can't do.
So he spends like the next 48 hours furiously learning to play guitar
and he nails it.
By the way, thank you so much, Collings.
Thank you, Collings.
And don't learn to play guitar.
Don't do it.
All right.
See you guys.
See you.
Air guitar counts, right?
No, Claire.
No.
Subculture though, you know.
It's a subculture.
It's a whole thing.
Air guitar.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a whole thing.
Oh.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
I'm off to learn about air guitar.
I'm not.
I'm not. I've been lost, I've been lost, I've been lost, I've been lost for a while
And I'm feeling tired
I've been lost, I've been lost, I've been lost, I've been lost for a while
And I've spent so much time eating pasta
Although I'm probably allergic and other people seem to move so much faster
I wonder why I'm feeling lonely
when there's plenty of ways
to be alone.
I guess I spent all of yesterday on...
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