Suggestible - And Just Like That, They Cloned Tyrone

Episode Date: August 10, 2023

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and sometimes James looks at me with a funny little face. Sometimes just let her go. Just see how long. How long she can ramble for. Oh, good God. Also, right up top, I want to say thanks again to everyone that came out to see my shows. I know I've done that already.

It's been like three weeks. Get over it. And I'm just really grateful and I'm still like a little, I don't know, weirdly jet lagged and it was a huge thing to do. And you looked after everyone and kept the house fires burning for three whole weeks. Oh, my God. It's like heroic.

It's true. I mean, people do it all the time, you know. I, my God. It's like heroic. It's true. I mean, I know people. I mean, people do it all the time, you know. I know, but I. I'm not the real hero. You, the listener, are the real hero. I'm just a, I'm a man just like you. Oh, gosh.

Put on my expensive podcasting clothes one leg at a time. Do you have expensive, are you wearing, literally wearing a free hoodie that you got given from the gym? This, no, this is from. Acast? This is a podcast gym. No, this is from. A-Cast? This is a podcast branded. That's what I mean. It was free in the post.

It's a good hoodie. It's really soft, Claire. You love soft things. Yeah. Lovely, cozy, soft things. I do wear this to the gym though in the morning. That's true. Oh, there you go.

You do. Because it's cozy. See, I don't like wearing a hoodie, but it's so cold. Because I get there and I immediately take it off. Yeah. But whenever I don't like wearing a hoodie but it's so cold because I get there and I immediately take it off. Yeah. But whenever I don't wear it, I regret it. I know. I'm in the car and I'm like.

I know. I've understood that. You used to not wear a jumper. Yeah. And it used to be very bothersome to me because, as you know, I worry about your temperature regulation a lot. You're always talking about it. I am, always discussing.

And so it just really annoys me. It's like our son does the same thing. He's like, well, I'm getting hot when I get there, so I'm not going to wear a jumper to my gym thing that I go to. Good point. And I'm like, but, mate, it's cold on the way and then when you return. So I'm glad you wear your jumper there. I think it gives me a lot of peace.

Sometimes. Sometimes people comment. They're like, where's your jumper? And I'm like, hey, mind your fucking business. But also this is a whole thing for me. Do you want me to get into it? People care about you. No, I just say I forgot.

I say I forgot. People care about you. I care about you too. I say I forgot it, but I never forgot it. It means I decided not to wear it for some reason. Anyways. Anyways. Potentially sad news, Claire.

Or people will be relieved. Maybe they will. Thank God. Another thing I don't have to listen to or engage in. But, yeah, we are probably going to take about a month break just from this show. This show, yeah. So if you're a fan of everything else that I do, and why wouldn't you be? Because what an absolute, what a rags to riches success story.

People love seeing me kick goals. Oh, gosh. They don't yell at me on the internet about you. No, they do. They yell at you all the time. I know. So it's instigated by me because I am just feeling very overwhelmed and tired by everything.

And after the music and the tour and everything else, I'm trying to figure out what to do next. And I've got lots of kind of little irons and sparks in the fire and I don't know which one to do. And I just want to lie down for a long time and have a nap. And so I feel like I just need a little breather. I know that I was on tour. I didn't do any shows either.

So I feel like I'm cheating the listeners a little. Somebody was here doing all the shows. I'll tell you that much, Claire. Exactly. But anyway, yeah, I just need a little break. I'm not the hero though. No. The listeners. And they know, I just need a little break. I'm not the hero though. No. For listeners.

And they know that. That is true. Yeah. So yes, but I will be back and we will be back. I just need a little break. You need it. I, and look, you were like, oh, I don't know whether we should do this or whatever. But, you know, we sat down and I was like, well, you're working out what you're going

to do next. And you've already like started doing that. But it's, you know, and there's a lot of planning that needs to go into that as well. Cause you are working, but you're not, you're going to do next and you've already like started doing that. Yeah. And there's a lot of planning that needs to go into that as well because you are working but you're not. Yeah, I'm writing another album but I'm also, I've got a whole lot of content. I haven't done Tons this year which is my new TV show and there's a lot of work to be done for that as well.

Yeah. And prep work. And you've also got some other shows that you're preparing and all that. So you are working but it's not like like front facing stuff that people will immediately say. Yeah, correct. Exactly. And I just think sometimes as creatives, it's good to go away. I know last year we took a month off and I think sometimes it's really important in life in general to just give yourself a breather and go away and just have a little think and squirrel away for a bit. Yeah.

I know Michaela Cole is an amazing TV writer and she said that, that sometimes you do need to be unafraid to go and just take time away from everything to write and create and do that unapologetically, though I'm a bit apologetic. No, never apologize. Never admit fault or defeat. No, but I also really love this podcast so much. It's like such a highlight of my week.

But I just feel like I'm not doing it justice at the moment. I'm just not watching enough things and to be able to really have enough to say I think and give it my all and I want to come back firing all cylinders and really enjoying it. So, yeah, taking a little breather. Absolutely. Yeah. So, yeah, as I said though, I'm the real hero.

I was lying before. It's me. Everything will be continuing as per usual. We normally take a break in January. Yeah, you do, yeah. Shut down the podcast for a couple of weeks and whatever else, yeah. Correct, yeah. So your stuff will still all be continuing.

Yep, still all happening. That's just me. Here's a little sneak hint. We're covering the Robocop movie. Whoa. I don't care about that at all. I know you don't care. But other people really do.

I'm currently immersing myself in all the Robocop films. Good, good. That's easy. Let me tell you, they get worse. It's like you'll watch the first one and you're like, wow, this is incredible. Terrible. Atrocious.

It goes like that. Like that. Goodness gracious. I see. That's cool. Sorocious. It goes like that. Like that. Goodness gracious. I see. That's cool. So many things. All right. Well, on that note, shall we get on with the actual show?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So where are we going to talk about and just like that? We certainly do, my goodness. We do. The Aiden episode. The Aiden episode. He's back. He's back.

I have to say that overall this latest episode I was like, thank God, at least there's a bit of good writing. It's completely, I agree. That is how I felt. I think this one was written by Samantha Irby. Yeah. And it just feels so much like the original show. Miranda is so much more believable in this episode.

Miranda. I think the fact that her and Shay have broken up, I think we already talked about this on the show, but it just does feel much more. And they can do their own storylines now. Correct, exactly, because that kind of chemistry between those characters was just non-existent. Yeah.

And so it's so nice now they've got their own trajectories that even the actors seem happier. They do seem happier. In the roles. I just think they were like pushing this agenda that just wasn't really working. Do they like each other in real life? Who's to say?

But it certainly doesn't come across on screen. It just didn't really come across. The chemistry between them just didn't come across. So anyway, I'm really enjoying that and I'm really also enjoying Aiden and the fact that he turned up in this terrible jacket. Claire, people have thoughts on that jacket. One of the listeners said that they also wear that jacket. I saw that. It's got a special name, doesn't it? I've got to say, the listener pulls off that jacket. One of the listeners said that they also wear that jacket. I saw that.

It's got a special name, doesn't it? I've got to say, the listener pulls off that jacket. Yes. He's too tall for the jacket. I don't know how tall this listener is, but it's too short on him. I'm just looking up what the jacket was called because it has a special name. It's called the Bell Staff jacket. It's a very iconic, long-standing jacket, as far as I'm aware, as far as I can tell. And yes, I agree. The listener in that jacket looks excellent.

And you're right. Aiden is too tall for it. Too tall for the jacket. It's too tall. It just doesn't work. That's why it looks silly. Yeah. That is absolutely why it looks silly.

But other than that, the chemistry between them is wonderful. And you really do genuinely, those scenes, you remember how great they were together as a couple and it's so beautiful to watch. I think the thing I said to you is giving me anxiety is the whole Carrie's apartment building and how he can't go in there, so this whole storyline about them meeting at Shay's Airbnb. And that worries me. I just feel like it's heading to some horrible, cataclysmic, awful thing

because it's all too easy at the moment. I'm hoping for that she breaks his heart again. No, I think – Just because it would be funny. But you think it's going to go the other way, that he's going to break up with her. Yeah, I do. I really do.

Maybe they'll stay together. They seem like a good couple. But it does seem like that honeymoon period of just like everything's great and we love each other. And we've just really shelved all of the terrible things that happened to us. Yeah, and she's reassessing. She's like, maybe I should have never married Big. And it's like, correct.

Yeah, you're like, James finally has vindicated for his many years of saying that Big is the worst. For years. I've been saying that since the show ended, Claire. You really have. You really have. 2004, was it? Yeah, I think so.

You're absolutely right, though. I love that. I love that whole writing, actually, too, because thank God, that's the question that's always been at the forefront of so many fans' minds, right? Like that whole thing of like you're an Aiden or a big person or whatever. And also I just love that then that's been written in in a really believable way.

Yeah. And that she's questioning everything and rightly so because Aiden is excellent and so lovely and funny and great. And we're going to see his farm this week as well. I know. This is interesting actually because this is kind of the turning point, isn't it, because he has kids. He has his whole life.

So I am hopeful and I probably will get my little heart crushed as I usually do. I'm really hopeful that the writers find a way to write the complexity of older relationships with people with kids and like new partners. And these kids would be older as well. Yeah, and they would know about her, you would think. Yeah. Or maybe they don't and that's interesting too.

But they have opinions and they're like real people. So I'm hopeful they write that well. Okay, so there's one young person in the show that is written tolerable and that's Carrie's friend who makes jewellery, whatever her name is. Yes. You know that memorable character, whatever her name is. Yes. You know, that memorable character, whatever her name is. The sleeping beauty one. Yeah.

Literally every other 25-year-old character, I've talked to you about this, in this, whenever they walk into a shop a 25-year-old character is like, can I help you? Oh, really? Oh, great. They're all written fucking insufferable. And sure, young people are insufferable.

I agree. No, that's not true. It's just it feels very much written by someone who fucking hates anybody in their 20s. That is 1,000% it. And I didn't notice it, but then it happened like four times in this latest episode. So because Charlotte goes into a store and they're like,

hmm, okay, whatever. And that weird thing where the shop assistant just leaves and Charlotte's looking. And we haven't addressed the Charlotte storyline in general. But before we get to that, I completely agree with you. And I even think her teenagers aren't, well, I don't know, maybe they are written okay actually because teenagers are kind of a bit. Oh, yeah, I guess.

Lily and Rock, I think they're written pretty well overall. But, yeah, definitely it's this weird like hating on. It's more people in their 20s. Yeah, I mean, though, to be fair, the old show did a lot of that as well. Yeah. You know, like women, remember that 20-something girls and that whole episode is about 20-something girls and how confused they are.

But actually, no, they did write them in kind of a more favourable way with more complexity. They were in like their early 30s, like most of them when it started at least. I think Bianca was going to say Samantha was 40. Yeah. I think. Yeah. Look, I don't know.

I feel like you're right. It's just, as I said to you, mainly they're writing the characters as 50-something gay men. Yeah. All of them. Nailing it too, by the way. Well, I don't know. I assume.

I mean, to be fair, Anthony's storyline is also great. It's killer. It's so funny and so great. I think it's just his delivery. But also it's touching. Like this episode where he's got this kind of chemistry with this guy who's got the big bread, like the bread, what's his name?

What's his business called? Bread Boys. Hot Buns or something? Hot Buns, something like that. I can't remember. Yeah. It's basically a bread delivery groping service. Yeah, it feels like that, doesn't it?

But that whole storyline, weirdly, there's moments in there where it's quite touching because he sees that he has feelings for this guy. Hot fellas. Hot fellas, thank you. He sees he has feelings for this, like, poet and then realises he's gay and then he's like, oh, I absolutely can't do this. And it's quite lovely and sincere in this, like, nice way. I also think physically he could not do it for reasons that, you know,

you will understand if you've seen the show. Oh, my God, yeah, that is terrifying. Wowza, I hadn't thought about that ouch um anyway who knows i do think that that's a great story but let's talk about now that whole thing with um charlotte i would love to know what you think because just you go first because i the outrage that you felt made me so happy it was more i think i was outraged for you to me for so many years. Because I'm an ally, Claire. And the real hero is you and the listeners, but also me for picking up on this.

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Available in select locations. See app for details. There's a Charlotte starting a new job at a fucking art gallery or whatever. Correct, yeah, going back to her old job. Run by three 20-something-year-old women, two of which. No, it's actually run by this older man that she met at the dinner party. Who worked there, I should say. And, you know, because when she first walks in, she's like,

I've started. And they're like, hmm. Even though they're nice, they're like, hmm, you've started, have you? And it turns out they're friendly. Yeah, it's very strange. Anyway, so she's like, man, I'm going to wear this dress on the first day. But she puts it on and it turns out Claire that she looks amazing in it and what the fuck is wrong with her uh because she she's like I've got

a little bit of a belly this dress doesn't suit me and it's super skin tight with a belt as everyone I don't even know I was like looking at it and I'm like am I fucking am I blind like what's happening here it's so strange. And she's like looking in the mirror and she's trying to like starve herself to fit into this dress, which she fits into perfectly anyway. Yeah. Anyway, so she starves herself for days. She ends up putting on two sets of like undergarments,

which like supposedly. Spanx, James. Spanx, thank you. They're called spanx. Like suck in her stomach. She looks exactly the same with them on. Also she wears two, which to me would kind of defeat the purpose because that would like the amount of weight that you'd think

that would make it look like you'd lost. Yeah, I know. Would be undercut because you're wearing like three or four levels of clothing under that thing. And then she goes in there and then she's like, man, I can barely breathe in this. And then the woman who's running it but not owner, because he's an older guy, walks down the stairs

and she's a slightly bigger lady and Charlotte's like, oh, what a relief, and goes to the bathroom and, like, throws them in the bin. Yeah. And I just don't know, like, what's the message? Like, what is that? What is it? What is it?

So, okay, there are so many layers. But what's the message though? Yeah, I know. So what they're trying to do is write a depiction of menopause. And so one of the things that happens in menopause is overall women do just put on weight more. They just do. Their body shapes change during menopause and particularly

around the midsection that just happens and it's also much harder to lose weight during menopause. That's just like women's bodies changing as they get older. Sure. And so I think they were aiming to show that and also show that Charlotte is feeling intimidated walking into a gallery space that she worked in 20 years ago and where she felt really confident and so great about herself and now she's revisiting that.

And rather than thinking about her career and what she can update in terms of her knowledge and skill set, she's obsessing over this idea of wanting to be that woman she was 20 years ago. Like she has this photo of her from 20 years ago that she's like looking at that. And so she's trying to. I wish I looked like that. Yeah, she's trying to.

I think it's supposed to be like a commentary about ageing and menopause and bodies changing and what it's like as an older woman to step back into a workplace when so many of the women are younger, which is what Miranda is doing too, right? That I get. They don't do that at all. What also is so annoying is like the episode before, one of the storylines was that Charlotte was called a MILF

and she was on the MILF list in her daughter's high school. She was like in a bra in bed in the sex scene. Yeah, exactly. And there was no part of that that was like. No, exactly. So it's totally missed the mark on so many levels. And I know obviously I'm not a woman going through menopause. I am a woman who's given birth and whose body's changed.

And I just, I think there's just so many more interesting storylines, even though, yes, body stuff is huge, but to do it on Charlotte like that where she genuinely doesn't look any, like very, she does not look that different from the charlotte's body that we saw 20 years ago or whatever it like she it's just stupid to do it that way it would be a different story if she actually looked like a woman in her 50s yeah exactly yeah if you had a body that was indicative of women in their 50s and clearly like in real life that's it's hard to look like that.

Obviously she's put in a lot of work and that's. Exactly. She's a celebrity. And that's great. And that's not a bad thing either. Like good for you. No, and the difficulty I have in this conversation too is that I think we're trying to move away from commentary on people's bodies overall because bodies

and human beings come in all different shapes and sizes as we know and a healthy body does not necessarily reflect a particular size or shape at all as we know. And it's so boring to me, this conversation. However, there is a full generation of women that are not, I mean there's so many contexts where this is complicated, but I do think that generation particularly was steeped and my generation too was steeped in this diet culture and all of that

body shaming stuff so it is a real thing it's just it doesn't ring true with this particular character in this show it's just and then the fact that it's so obvious that then they've chosen a woman who is fat in a you know fat is quite is quite an empowering word. We can use that now. Cool. Who turns up and she's wearing a midrash, clearly really comfortable in her body. And so Charlotte immediately just throws away the Spanx. It's just so obvious and kind of not intelligent.

So was that the empowerment that we were supposed to see? Like the woman coming down and Charlotte was like, that's very empowering. Now I'm going to be empowering. See, I think that could also be taken as like, well, I'm not the biggest person here. You did say that too. Yeah.

Because honestly, I didn't feel empowering. It just felt, it was weird. Like I didn't. I know. Also, I was thinking to myself, in this economy, you're throwing away three pairs of, they're probably like $150 a pop, those spanks. She's worth like $10 million.

And she's like throwing them in the bin. I know. But that even in and of itself is like waste and all. I don't know. There was just layers and layers of like what was so problematic about it. And also it just wasn't that interesting a storyline. I feel like there's so much more to talk about with menopause than the fact that you have a slight bigger tummy. Like there's just so much more than that, like that what a hot flash actually feels

like or what it's like for your mood swings to just circle and spiral and you have no idea where you are with those, what it's like to take hormone replacement therapy, what women need at that time when they're feeling like they're invisible. I mean, that is more of an interesting storyline I think where Charlotte is entering the workplace and feels invisible around 20-something women even though that is also a trope that's kind of been done too. I mean just. I mean you can redo things.

You can. The brain fog that can happen with menopause as well and then maybe also that integrating of self as an older woman. In a way I would have loved to have seen her feel really empowered. But then maybe also there's an invisibility that women talk about when they're sort of in that stage of their life, which is not going to happen to Charlotte because Charlotte has spent so much money trying to look like a 20-something woman.

For better or worse, I'm not shaming her for that at all, but that is kind of an interesting question and discussion. And also I would have just been way more interested to see Charlotte grappling with like updates in her career and trying to navigate what it's like to be back at work. I want a scene where she screams, what's TikTok? What's TikTok? And all the teenagers are like, well, teenagers, 25-year-olds are like,

hmm. But you know how we were watching Platonic, What's TikTok? And all the teenagers are like, well, teenagers, 25-year-olds are like, hmm. Yeah. But you know how we were watching Platonic, that other TV show with Rose Byrne's character who's a mother. Yes, that did really well. Who was a mum out of like a, she hadn't been working for a long time. She went back into the workforce as a lawyer. On like the bottom rung. Bottom rung and bottomed out and got fired.

Yeah. Like the first or second day she was there. Talked about it before. I talked about it when we were away. It's really good with Seth Rogen. Fun apple. And that storyline, it was like way heightened and silly and comedic, but that is way more interesting because you're seeing like that complexity

of what it's like for a woman to return to the workforce and what that really kind of means in how far things have moved on and, you know, all of that is much more interesting. I don't know. I feel like I've waffled for ages about it. But I just loved your reaction because you were so angry about it. It was genuinely confusing and you like telling me that like what the message was.

I'm still like, oh, okay, it was it, I guess. So they were trying to do a piece about weight gain and menopause and about what it's like to age. And look, to be fair. I mean, again, that I get. I just mean like that end bit. It's like what is it? What's the message here?

Yeah. It's supposed to be like, oh, actually body size doesn't matter and I'm just going to be myself. Yeah, that's true. It didn't. And it's just it feels it just feels really patronizing and not very intelligent or interesting in that way. But actually, to be fair, depressingly, it is a real obsession

for a lot of women. And that's,'s again that's fine again you can just like it's just that it just felt weird it was a weird like you can you can have an idea for something but the execution can be like baffling yeah correct exactly and i think that's the problem because also the whole storyline it just didn't fit with the rest of the character trajectory of Charlotte yeah but then I guess there is a pressure if you're returning to work you suddenly feel like you want to be the person you were 20 years ago and again like I get I get that but you could have like like you said

you could have picked like a different thing that like I don't know not this but like I don't know how to use a computer what I don't know you know what I mean yeah you wouldn't know how to use a computer that's not a good example I I would be interested though, actually, now that I'm saying all of this, and I don't think it was written well. It really wasn't written well. But I wonder if you are a woman in menopause in your 50s, whether that storyline would have resonated with you. And maybe it's a case of, I mean, but I don't know, because like my body looks very different after kids. So I don't know. And there is something strange about returning to a role that you used to be in or going to see, you know, like if you go to a reunion or you go to see old friends and you

suddenly feel this pressure to look a particular way. Yeah. I don't know. It is interesting in this whole context though. I was telling you that I went to a life drawing class for writers, which is really interesting, about bodies. And a lot of the women in that room were talking about how initially, this was a woman that we were writing, not drawing. And I'd never done anything like that before. And none of the writers in the room had either because they weren't artists. So artists do that quite a lot, you know, life drawing, but writers don't.

And so they were saying the first emotion that came up from them was rage. Yeah. Like just because she had a figure that was very beautiful. And so, and it wasn't perfect by any stretch. It was a human being's body, but there was a feeling that like, oh God, look at that soul enraging. Mine doesn't look like that. Mine doesn't look like that. Why does it look like that?

I didn't have that reaction and I think maybe that's because of like the amount of stuff I've been through with my body. I've come to terms with it and I'm friends with it overall. You're always shaking hands. I am. Making a deal. I don't know. I just have started to think of it more functionally or something

or I don't know what or I just don't know why I didn't feel rage but I didn't. But that was an interesting observation from those women in that room. There's just so much complexity for women particularly, everyone, and obviously if you're non-binary or, you know, there's so many people that have complex relationships with their bodies. Men do as well. I'm not saying they don't. But culturally there's just a lot there going on.

There definitely is with men and there is a lot of like body dysmorphia around like bodybuilding and all that kind of stuff because you kind of – like my Instagram feed is like filled with that stuff. Yeah, it's so interesting watching your feed versus mine. It's so weird. A few like fitness people were just like, here's a recipe. This is a good way to do a bicep curl or whatever. I'm like, oh, that's good.

Okay. You can make eggs like that. And then the guys are like, look how big I am. I'll kill you. And I'm like, here's a recipe. This is a good way to do a bicep curl or whatever. I'm like, oh, that's good. Okay. You can make eggs like that. And then the guy's like, look how big I am. I'll kill you. And I'm like, oh, no. Don't kill me. Anyway. Gosh, we've really gone a long way.

Do you want to talk about? I do. I want to recommend one thing. You talk about your thing. This is a movie called They Cloned Tyrone. It's directed by. They Cloned Tyrone. They Cloned Tyrone. It's directed by. They Cloned Tyrone. They Cloned Tyrone.

It's directed by Jewel Taylor in his debut movie. And the screenplay is written by him and Tony Retton-Meyer. So here's the synopsis for the last time for a month. Oh, I'm sad now. A series of eerie events thrusts an unlikely trio. John Boyega, you know him? You know him, Mm-hmm. You know him, right?

Do you really or are you saying him? No, I'm just saying that. He's Finn in Star Wars. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I know him. Jamie Foxx. You know Jamie Foxx? Yes, I do.

Do you? I do know who Jamie Foxx is. Okay. Yes. You probably won't know this last person. Tayna Paris? No, I don't know her. Tayona Paris, sorry.

She's in Marvel stuff. What else is she in? What else would you know her for? I don't know. Tayona Paris, sorry. She's in Marvel stuff. What else is she in? What else would you know her for? I don't know. She's great. She's really good in this. Okay. So those three, onto the trail of a nefarious government conspiracy in this pulp mystery caper. Now, apparently the whole idea of this is partially inspired by things like The Truman Show, if you've ever seen that. Oh, yes, yes. So all these people, they live in a fictional neighbourhood that's predominantly black called The Glen and everybody's kind

of locked into this kind of lower socioeconomic kind of situation they're all living in. Parts of it looks familiar, you know, but there's a little like weird undercurrent of like monotony and patterns repeating. And nobody's kind of doing anything outside of assigned roles, basically. And everybody's dealing with drugs and death and sex work and violence and all these things that are going on. But then, without spoiling too much of it, Claire, a violent incident kind of kicks things off in the neighbourhood

and then a few people, these three in particular, start to realise that maybe not everything in the community is kind of as what it seems and is this some kind of experiment? Is this like some kind of alternate reality? Like what is happening in this town that they live in? So, you know, they get into conspiracies about, ah, they get into conspiracies about like what's in the food, who or like what is real, what is everybody's purpose in this.

Maybe cloning. It's called They Clone Tyrone, so maybe it's cloning adjacent. It's really funny also, like the dynamics between the main trio are really great. They're really good pairing. What's three but pairing, Claire? What's three? You write things.

A team of three is great. Really good performances. Some of them doing like. Trio. Oh, it's trio. Yeah, I would say they're all kind of doing unrecognizable stuff that you would have normally seen them in. John Boyega's great.

I mean, everybody knows like, you know, Jamie Foxx, he's been great for like 30 years or whatever. But John Boyega's like really good as a leading man and I hope he gets to do kind of more of it. There's something I talked about with him recently where he robs a bank. It's based on true story, which is really good also. Uh, he's great anyways. And it's, it's, it's really good.

It's on Netflix. So you'd be like, oh, then it's bad. No, it's good. Actually. It's a good Netflix movie. They do exist. So if you just stop watching red notice for once, Claire. I know you love the movie Red Notice. I don't know what that is but okay.

Oh, she pretends. It's the biggest movie of all time. Settle down. Okay. All right, all right. But check it out. And I think also Jewel Taylor who directed it, I think it would be somebody to keep an eye on for future stuff

because as a debut, like it surprised me that it wasn't somebody that like I'd heard of. Yeah. After I watched it. Yeah. So just really terrific. Yeah. Amazing.

That sounds awesome. It's cool. It's really fun. What was it called again? They Cloned Tyrone. They Cloned Tyrone on Netflix, which is amazing to think there is something still good on Netflix. I know.

Who knew? It's good. Who knew? Well, on that note, if you would like to write into the show, you can. It's josephpottergmail.com. I'll write into the show. Yeah, so just like Joseph has. Hello, Claire.

Hello, James also. Yeah. I'll make this quick. Star Trek Strange New Worlds has been on a hot streak of excellent storytelling for 19 episodes in a row and there's one more to go. Apparently the hubris of the creative team knows no bounds as the latest episode is a straight-up musical. Yes. And it's-up musical. Yes.

And it's so fucking amazing. I have been watching that and the one I watched yesterday was the time travel one. They go back to like modern day Earth, which is like a Star Trek have been doing that since the 60s. They're like, what year do we travel to? We travel to the year that this was actually filmed in because it's easier.

And they travel to, I think it's Vancouver that this was actually filmed in because it's easier. And they travel to, I think it's Vancouver. It's basically Toronto. I can't remember. It's basically where they film all TV shows now, just like in Canada. So they go there. Anyway, it was great. It was really, really good.

It's a really good show. Anyway, sorry, go on. So obviously Trek is divisive. Most love it or hate it. And this is the ninth episode of the second season, Subspace Rhapsody, which means it'll take a long time to catch up. But it's so worth it. If you can't bring yourself to watch the episode or any Trek, check out the soundtrack. It's legitimately excellent.

Soundtrack. Soundtrack. Hey. Hey. You're a funny one. That's what they say. They say I'm all right. In any event, love you guys.

So glad to have Claire back. Gaurat's on the tour and I can't really wait to hear what you two are suggestibling next. Oh, I'm so sorry. We will be back, Joseph. I will be back. Devastated. Excellent.

That's it. So, yeah, suggestibledoll.gmail.com. Thank you, Joseph, for writing in. We really appreciate it. Now, if you are so inclined to review the show, I will read out your review. You better believe it. I also found a site that I realized that not all the countries that are writing reviews are coming through.

So I found another site where I'm like, oh, my God, there's reviews here that I haven't read. Oh, wowza. That's great. I'm going to have to be going back as well. Going back in time. Correct. But this one, who do we got here?

What do we got here? What do we got? What do we got? It's from CanCon. What do we got? Five stars in app. Do it in whatever app you want. The app that you're listening to.

It says, the best suggestions, the best review of Danny, champion of the world since my fourth grade teacher, Mr. Wozvic, read it to us daily. Thanks for reminding me of his copy he gave me as he retired. Oh. That's cool. That's really heartwarming and lovely and I love that a lot. Claire and Mr. Subbeday. I think that's. Oh. That's cool. That's really heartwarming and lovely and I like that a lot. Claire and Mr. Sub Day.

I think that's a mistake. That's you. Or an intentional dig. Correct. Mr. Subway. That's me. Maybe. Hopefully not Mr. Subway because that was awkward and terrible.

It turned out he was a pedophile. He was a big pedophile, yeah. The best at suggestions. That's from Camcon. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. We love to see reviews.

When's the last time you had Subway? 2002 probably. That long ago? I don't think I've had it for, I can't even tell you. Really? When have you had it last? I reckon at least 10 years. Yeah, longer.

Yeah. Maybe not 2000. I mean, I might have been at an airport. I was like 11 or 12. I might have been at an airport once and like, oh, okay, God. All right. But. No good.

The only things that are good are the cookies. They are good. They are pretty good. Whatever I order, it tastes the same. I don't know what they're doing in there. It's just not for me. What are they doing in there? I don't know.

It's not for me. Whatever sauce you get, it tastes the same. It's just not for me. I think it's the bread. The bread makes it all taste like weird and uniform. And they have different flavoured breads too. But do they? I don't know.

Is it even bread? I'm not sure. It's very clearly Subway bread though. Oh, yeah. If you gave me a selection of rolls and said which is the Subway, I would tell you immediately. Yeah. And I haven't had it in like 15, 20 years.

2002 is 20 years ago. I surely have had it. 21 years ago. Oh, God. Old enough to drink in America. Oh, no, 23. No, 22. You're right.

Two years ago. 21. I don't know. What are you doing? What is time? I'm so tired. I know this is why. You need a break.

I'm taking a break because my brain is short circuited. I'm also writing another album and that's a lot. Yeah, I wouldn't even bother if it was me. I know. I don't know why I'm taking a break because my brain is short-circuited. I'm also writing another album and that's a lot. Yeah, I wouldn't even bother if it was me. I know. I don't know why I'm doing it. I'd just stop. I know. Maybe I should.

Anyway. That's something to think about in your month. It's something to think about in my month. I might just take this month to like because I'm also starting touring and doing some more, not touring but like doing some more shows later in the year. So I just need a bit of time to like refuel I think. Yeah.

Even my voice is sore after this chat. Sure. Crazy. Well, yeah, as I was saying on my other more successful show, The Weekly Planet, at some point, maybe I said it on a bonus thing. I don't know. I can't wait. I don't talk that much like during the day.

No, you don't. So this is when I do all of my talking and I find that after I record a few things, like if I do like three or four hours in a row, like it's ridiculous because this is not a real job by any stretch. But, yeah, it's hard to talk for a really long time when you don't like talking. True. All right. Thank you so much as always to Royal Collings for editing this week's episode.

Thank you, James Clement, for being here. But, yes, we will be back to do more episodes. I just need a little snoozy break. Okay. As always, look after yourselves. Thank you for listening. Yeah, have a good time. And have a good time.

Have a good week. Talk to you at a different time. Okay. Bye. Bye. We can wait for clean water solutions. Or we can engineer access to clean water. OK, bye.