Suggestible - Best Suggestibles of the Year (Part One)
Episode Date: December 26, 2019Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.The KingAlways Be My MaybeTo All The Boys I've Loved BeforeIsn't It RomanticModern... LoveBooksmartI Am MotherAnnihilationRide Like A GirlParasiteDolemite Is My NameEddie Murphy Monologue - SNLMatesong with Kylie Minogue and MatesDundee 2018Shrimp on the BarbieDon't F**k With Cats: Hunting an Internet KillerHomecoming: A Film By BeyoncéFYRE: The Greatest Party That Never HappenedFYRE FRAUDTell Me Who I AmFree SoloThe Dawn WallKatherine Ryan: Glitter RoomCassie Workman: GiantessMike Birbiglia: The New OneGary Gulman: The Great DepreshDerry GirlsFollow the show on Instagram and Twitter @suggestiblepod or visit www.planetbroadcasting.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's the Best Of Show with James and Claire. Don't be a bear, be listening to this show.
So if you're a bear, I don't understand.
You said a bunch of things that I don't agree with.
First of all, best of.
I mean, best of this isn't much, is it?
No, it's really not.
It's like looking at.
It's the bottom of the round.
We do not make it into any best of podcast list of 2019.
Do you really look at those?
Because I know I don't.
You made it.
The Weekly Planet made best podcast of the bloody decade on Spotify.
Oh, did we?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Well, in that case, that's great.
Best of is incredible.
I put it on the gram and you didn't care at all.
Yeah.
You sent me a list of nerds.
Lists are for nerds.
And I said, you're a nerd.
Speaking of lists, though, and nerds, what we're doing this week, actually,
and next week, we're splitting this into two because we're doing kind of the best stuff
that we enjoy.
Because we're going away on holiday to the beach.
We're going on holiday, that's right.
We're going to be drinking pina coladas.
That's right.
And we've got somebody house-sitting our house so you can't rob us.
Oh, God.
Just to clarify, Claire.
Hey, on a side note, we're married.
This is suggestible.
We recommend you things just in case you have never lived in a tradition before.
I've got some new stuff in here as well and some old stuff that people may have heard.
But, yeah, it's just going to be kind of a –
It's just like a summary of all the things we like this year.
So it'll be stuff you've already heard before.
But I think it's nice to –
Actually, no, because we only started this show kind of in the second half of the year.
So that's kind of good.
Okay, so we're starting with film.
Yes.
Best of 2019.
You go first.
Sure.
The gentleman's first.
I'm going to mention one I haven't mentioned yet.
It's called The King.
It's from Netflix.
It stars Timothee Charlemagne.
It's about a king of England who comes into power and then he's kind of a goof
and everyone's like, this guy's a goof.
He shouldn't be king.
He's a drunk or whatever.
So he has to kind of assert himself and then also go to war with France.
Oh.
He also goes up against, what's his name?
He's the new Batman, Robat Batten Bat, who's like a French kind of prince.
Is it a duel?
Yeah, they end up having a duel at one point.
When is it set?
I don't know, 1500, 1600.
You know when everything was like just mud and fucking everything was shit.
I think that you think the world, that time is in, you exist outside of time.
I exist outside of that time because that time has passed.
This is true.
Which time, which period of time was it?
Between 1300 and 1700.
Oh, good.
Okay, specific.
Doesn't matter.
There's nothing in there.
Nothing happens.
All right, so The King.
So you recommend it?
Definitely, yeah.
It's a Netflix thing.
You can just chuck it on there.
It's also the battle that he has with Robat, Bat and Bat.
It's his Batman nickname.
It's quite humorous because one of them goes into it wearing a heavy set
of armour and mud.
It's just quite funny.
Is it as funny as the ending of that film with Sean Connery, Camelot?
Oh, First Night.
First Night.
That movie is not very good.
But Sean Connery at the end of that going to battle or something
is the most hilarious thing.
Yeah.
So funny.
All right, well, for me, film was all about the rom-com comeback.
Oh, yeah.
It's been all happening, hasn't it?
Because I love a rom-com.
You know this about me.
I know that.
But I've really enjoyed it.
One of my favourites actually was Always Be My Maybe starring Ali Wong.
I enjoyed that also.
I mean, she's really great.
Her comedy specials are great.
But that was released this year on Netflix.
So I really think the streaming services.
They're stepping up their game.
They totally have.
To all the boys I loved before, I watched that.
The four that I've written here in movies, three of them are streaming movies.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
I reckon most of mine are actually.
I get that again.
It's awards season.
A lot of stuff hasn't been out here yet.
Like I haven't seen Jojo Rabbit because it's not out yet.
I haven't seen The Lighthouse because it's not out here yet.
We haven't seen Cats.
No, we haven't seen Cats, though it is out here.
I do.
I will.
Oh, my God.
I really want to see that.
Me too.
I want to go and see it on our date night at the beach.
Yeah, let's ruin a night.
And then we'll talk about it when we come back next year.
Great, great.
I can't wait.
I'm so excited.
Judi Dench's human hands.
Oh, my gosh.
With her wedding ring.
That they're fixing apparently.
I'm so excited. Don't fix it, you cowards. I'm so excited. Judi Dench's human hands. Oh, my gosh. With her wedding ring. That they're fixing apparently. I'm so excited.
Don't fix it, you cowards.
Leave it as is.
Anyway, so I'm going with the rom-com.
Can I just list my other couple of rom-coms I really enjoyed?
To All the Boys I Loved Before.
Yeah, I didn't mind that one.
I really loved that one.
It's getting a sequel as well.
Yeah, it's just really fun.
It's called Three All the Boys I Loved Before.
All right.
Hilarious.
Thank you.
Isn't it romantic? Oh, the Rebel Wilson one? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't mind that right. Hilarious. Thank you. Isn't it romantic?
Oh, the Rebel Wilson one?
Yeah.
I like that one too.
I mean, look, they're not groundbreaking necessarily.
No, but they're exactly what they're supposed to be.
But they're really good.
But I think they've updated the format a bit.
They're sort of not just the same old trope and they're a bit funnier.
I think so, yeah.
And the lead characters, the women in them are just funnier.
Yeah, I think so.
And it's not – they've kind of got a new batch of people
who can be in these now.
So it's not like Katherine Heigl, Meg Ryan, Jennifer Aniston,
which is what it was.
Sandra Bullock.
Yeah, which they're all fine.
But it's also like, can we get some new people?
Yeah, exactly.
And they're all kind of different, diverse people.
That part I don't like.
And I remember you saying to me off air that that's another part
that you don't like also because you can't identify with them.
Are you insane?
Oh, my God.
Don't even put that in the universe.
I agree. It's good.
And it's not just like, well, it's diversity for diversity.
It's just there are diverse people in the world
and these are great choices for these movies.
Yeah, correct.
Exactly.
And I mean, Ali Wong, hilarious.
Also, Modern Love I really enjoyed, which is Amazon Prime.
Yes.
That really surprised me with how much I enjoyed that.
It's just a series of short stories really and it's brilliant.
I think each one is a great little film in itself
and it saw some really big names.
Excellent.
And this isn't really a rom-com but I felt like it was
in the same kind of genre.
I really liked Booksmart.
Yes.
I know you didn't enjoy that so much.
Not as much as you but then, maybe it's not for me.
Not everything is, so it doesn't really matter.
That is true.
Most of the world is there.
Not that I did not like it.
I thought it was good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I enjoyed that.
I think also I just watched Superbad, which I love, and it's probably also because I relate
more to that, obviously.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I'm a cool dude.
You are a cool dude.
I mean, Superbad is excellent.
Superbad's incredible.
It is.
And Booksmite is in that similar kind of like coming of age, teenage.
People have said like it's girl Superbad, but it's not.
But I can see how it's like.
Yeah, it's got that similar sort of feel of that film.
I often don't like those movies.
I hated all the American Pies.
They're not the same though.
No, but it's that kind of teenage going to a party.
American Pie is like sexually assaulting people
and streaming them online without their consent.
It's horrible.
There's so many things that you watch back.
Like I watched back the West Wing.
Don't watch season one.
There's so much you look back on.
Because they stream an exchange student having sex with somebody.
Is that right?
That's American Pie.
No, but there's just a lot of sexual harassment and things.
And in The West Wing I kind of remember thinking all the female characters
were really strong and actually not in the season one.
It's a lot of mansplaining.
Anyway, okay.
Sounds right up my alley.
What was your other favourite film?
I really liked Iron Mother, which I talked about.
We watched that together.
Yeah, we did.
I actually really enjoyed that.
I forgot about that one.
I really liked that.
And I can't remember the actor's name who's the lead in it and a robot.
Yeah.
And it's just all set in a bunker and it's about the end of the world
and maybe the start of a new world and AI taking over
and all this kind of stuff.
Yeah, there's a few twists and turns.
And it's terrific.
I really loved it.
I did too.
I mean, obviously this is particularly your wheelhouse.
It is so far up your alley.
Yeah, true.
It's bloody called James Clement Alley.
It's called James Clement Alley.
It's AI.
It's kind of like post-apocalyptic.
But it's not just, I think it's good outside of that as well.
I do too.
I really enjoyed it.
And I also think Netflix has a lot of sci-fi crap
and this is not one of them.
I also really enjoyed Annihilation.
Yes.
I don't think that was this year though.
I don't think so either.
But Natalie Portman starred in that.
Yeah, I really liked Annihilation as well.
And I really enjoyed that too.
Just as an example of another really great sci-fi film that was on Netflix.
Yeah, and like Annihilation came out Feb of last year.
Wow, that was a long time ago.
But, yeah, like that movie and By Your Mother probably wouldn't have done
very well in cinemas, I'd imagine.
Really?
I'd imagine so.
I mean, it's kind of a mid-tier, low-budget.
You never know, but it's kind of a good idea to kind of sell these things
to Netflix.
Yeah, it is interesting, isn't it?
Or can be.
Yeah.
The other film I really loved that I saw in theatres was Ride Like a Girl.
Oh, yeah.
I really enjoyed that.
It was an Australian film too, and I'm not always a huge fan
of Australian film.
Because they're mostly about junkies and St Kilda, whatever the fuck.
No, they're not.
But I just don't, I think we have not a lot of wiggle room for film budgets here.
Except for the wiggle movie, obviously.
Correct.
It's just very difficult to get a film made.
It's a good joke.
I don't know.
You shouldn't stop and acknowledge that.
So annoying.
Anyway, I just think that that was a really excellent film.
Yeah, and different.
And about Michelle Paynene who was the first woman
to win the Melbourne Cup which is an iconic horse race here in Australia.
I've got to see that.
It's really moving and it's a really great film for teenagers
to watch about grit and determination and hard work
and Rachel Griffiths produced it and it's brilliant.
So I would highly recommend that.
All right, I'm going to try and check that out.
Let's see if I can stream it over the summer. All right, you sound tired and disinterested. So I would highly recommend that. All right, I'm going to try and check that out. See if I can stream it over the summer.
All right, you sound tired and disinterested.
Yeah, Claire.
How could you sound tired and disinterested?
I'm married to you.
What am I supposed to do?
No, I'm not.
I'm interested.
Parasite was one I really enjoyed,
which is a Korean film about a family who kind of infiltrate
a very rich upper class family and like it's like really, it's really funny and really full on and I don't really want to spoil it
but you should watch it even though it's full on and it's just,
it's easily one of the best films of the year.
I've heard my favourite, one of my favourite podcasts we're going
to talk about later recommended that to me.
Okay, yeah.
Actually, well, not me personally.
Oh, really?
Their listenership.
Well, actually me.
Listen up, listen up.
They did.
It's all recommended to me.
No, but I've heard that's brilliant.
Have you got that? I want to watch that. I don't think so. Okay. It's all recommending to me. No, but I've heard that's brilliant. Have you got that?
I want to watch that.
I don't think so.
Okay.
It's probably streaming by now.
Okay.
We'll have to find it.
I really want to say that I heard good things.
Yeah.
Excellent.
Any others?
Dolomite is my name, the Eddie Murphy one.
I still haven't watched that.
It's great.
It's really good.
And also he just came back to Saturday Night Live and I watched a few of his skits.
He hasn't been back in like 30 years.
How did it go?
Really good.
Like, I mean, that show's very hit and miss mostly miss i would even say but he's his monologue was really
good and he kind of makes fun of bill cosby because he's like 30 years ago if you had a
time with her like bill cosby would be in jail and i'd have 10 kids and i'd be a stay-at-home dad like
you know who would have thought kind of thing and bill cosby like responded like you know like how
dare you i'm a pioneer and it's like no you're a rapist and you should be in jail.
So, you know.
Yeah.
Anyway, I thought that was just a funny way to kind of come out swinging
at this absolute dog of a bloke who should be in jail.
And who used to ring him and things.
Yeah, and like being like, you're too blue and whatever and you're not.
Yeah, you're not showing the community,
like you're letting down the community.
Yeah.
And Dolomite is my name.
It's like it's about Rudy Ray Moore,
I think his name is.
I've forgotten so much already from this year.
But yeah, he gets this film off the ground of his own financing
and it's this black exploitation kind of like kung fu,
like sexy James Bond-esque kind of.
Anyway, you should watch it.
It's on Netflix.
Ooh, sexy kung fu.
Did they sing the song, everybody was kung fu fighting?
No, they say everyone is sexy Kung Fu fighting.
Yeah, but I'm being sexy and singing Kung Fu fighting.
That's true.
You can do both.
They should have that song.
Every movie should have that song.
It's an excellent song.
Okay, well, we're moving on to Documenta Rose.
Documenta Rose.
That's how you say it.
That's how I say it.
That's how I say it too.
We both say it like that.
We do.
That means 100% of the people who listen to this podcast say it like that.
Correct.
Also, that's an Australian saying, mate.
On a side note, have you seen the Australian ad for Australia starring Carly Minogue and Adam Hill?
This year's been tough and confusing, but progress is moving.
Well, at glacey old pace.
I'm sorry.
But all of Australia loves you
And we'll never judge you
You just need some space
Because negotiating tricky trade deals is a shocker
But look!
There's a quokka, and that's what you need A quokka! It's a special place in Australia.
So see you soon then, yeah?
Did you hear me like cock that shotgun and put it to my mouth?
It's so bad.
Yes, I have heard it.
Eddie Perfect too, I think he's like a really great Australian
kind of comedian, musician, actor.
No, he wrote the song.
Did he?
Oh, poor Eddie Perfect.
It's really lame.
That's not really the problem I have with it.
The whole, just like the timing of it.
It's like there's this, it's Adam Hills and Kylie Minogue,
who if you don't know, if you're from the UK, you would know,
but they're two Australian.
One's like a comedic personality.
The other one's like a pop star.
I'm talking for people in the US who probably won't know.
Correct.
But yeah, it's them being like, come to Australia.
And they're singing about how good Australia is and beaches
and whatever.
Blue skies and koalas.
Yeah, half the country is on fire.
And, like, that aside, because they would have obviously planned
this, like, months ago.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, Adam Hills and Kylie Minogue don't live here.
They live in the UK, which is fine.
You can live wherever you want.
But don't be like, it's the greatest place in the world
you should come here.
Except we don't live here.
Except you don't live here.
And you don't have to live here because, you know, why would you?
No, it's a great place.
But it is just bad timing because there's some major bushfires raging
in Australia at the moment.
And actually there's quite a lot of koala habitats
that are being destroyed.
When was the last good Australian campaign?
Oh, the one where the bloody hell are you, mate?
That was terrible.
The Crocodile Dundee one was kind of interesting, I guess,
until it turned out to be a tourism campaign, I guess,
because it got people talking because they were like,
they're making a new one?
Yeah.
But I think the Paul Hogan one was probably the last one
that people really remember.
When was that?
It was in the 80s.
Wow.
The proper shrimp on the barbie thing.
That was when we were born.
Yeah.
That's where that comes from.
Yeah.
The shrimp on the barbie thing.
That was when we were born.
Yeah.
That's where that comes from.
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Well, there you go.
Anyway, side note, docos.
What were your favorite docos?
I'd seen more than I thought.
Actually, one I just watched.
It's called Don't Fuck With Cats.
It's on Netflix.
It's a three-part series.
They should have listened to that before they made the movie Cats.
Absolutely.
You're not wrong. It should be a general rule of life.
Touch me with your human hands, Judi Dench.
Even though you've got a cat's face and body.
And Tay-Tay gets sexy as a cat's face and body and then Tay Tay gets sexy
as a cat I'm not looking forward to that but I sort of am though so basically uh it's it's not
fun it's a it's a it starts with a somebody anonymously puts a video up on YouTube of
putting cats in a vacuum seal bag and sucking the air out of it and suffocating them that's how it
starts and then from there it's it extends from that to groups trying to find this person
through the internet, right, and like using clues, what's in the room,
background noise, all of these different kinds of things, right,
to try and figure out who this person is.
And it escalates because then it's like,
is this person actually like a serial killer?
Is there going to be another step to this?
And so they try to warn the police but then it really escalates
and it's just really interesting the idea of like online culture
and there's also a conversation of if people hadn't pursued this guy,
would it have escalated in the way that it did kind of thing?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
So one of the women who were involved with it was like,
well, we think about how maybe we contributed to this
and maybe we made this worse along the way.
But she's also like, but, you know, if you're watching this, maybe you should think about maybe you're contributed to this and maybe we made this worse along the way but she's also like but you know if you're watching this maybe you should think about maybe you're contributing
to it also i'm like well you know if anything if one of us is contributing to this it's you in this
documentary because me watching this documentary the guy who is it's about doesn't know just for
your listening um because you can't see james's, he's doing that thing where he squints his face up and then rages.
I just hated the like, well, who's really to blame here?
You.
Not me.
You did this.
More than I.
I mean, you didn't do it, but you helped.
I didn't help.
I'm nothing to do.
How fucking dare you?
Anyway, it was supposed to be like poignant and like,
well, who's really watching who?
Kind of like, get the fuck out of here.
Get that shit.
Anyway, it's a good documentary.
You should watch it. You're very full of rage. It's true that shit. Anyway, it's a good documentary. You should watch it.
You're very full of rage.
It's true crimey.
Yeah.
What do you got?
All right.
Cool.
That sounds really interesting.
I'd never heard of that before.
Mine is like the kind of opposite to that.
Homecoming came out this year on Netflix.
Spider-Man Homecoming?
Well.
That was in 2017.
No, that was 2017.
No, this is written, directed, and executive produced by Beyonce.
No, that was 2017.
No, this is written, directed and executive produced by Beyonce.
It's her film and documentary of her 2018 Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival performance, which kind of if you haven't seen
her Coachella performance, it was completely iconic,
completely original, absolutely incredible.
The choreography, the musicianship, the dancing, her in general,
like she'd had given birth to twins and really had to get herself
into shape very quickly and lose a whole lot of weight.
She was completely not match ready, as she says.
So the documentary kind of follows her journey to getting back
into her old costumes and all this kind of stuff,
but also how she built this incredible team around her
and just the amount of power in the performance,
what they talk about in terms of race and being a woman
and it's just incredible.
The music is amazing.
It's very, it's just, it's iconic.
That's all I can say.
And, you know, she won awards for it.
What was really clever too was that, so she kind of took over Coachella.
But other people who performed at Coachella who didn't do, you know,
the full shows, like she headlined, who didn't do the full shows,
got paid the same as her.
But what she asked for was not more money but the rights to the footage,
which was so clever because then she made this film
and sold it to Netflix for many dollars.
Yeah.
And now she owns the rights to all of that and the distribution
plus the live album, all of that stuff.
Awesome.
So she's a very, very savvy businesswoman as well.
Her and Jay-Z are really kind of ahead of the game in that way.
Just very, very clever.
And this performance. Because the money isn't always in the music itself that way. Just very, very clever. And this performance.
Because the money isn't always in the music itself, obviously.
Well, not anymore.
No.
It's in everything else.
Yeah, exactly.
It's sort of merch and live shows.
And so it's just stunning.
Yeah.
And you just, oh, the amount of work that goes into a show like that
is just phenomenal.
How does she come across like as a person?
It's really interesting.
Is she like a loof and like?
No, she comes across as quite sweet and humble.
Yeah, because I don't really know anything about her.
I know.
It's really interesting.
She almost puts this character on when she goes on stage.
Sasha Fierce?
Well, yeah, she does have her alter ego, Sasha Fierce,
but I was really surprised watching it.
She comes across as really like she's obviously quite savvy
and very, very talented and extremely hardworking and focused.
But I wouldn't say that she's particularly, what's the word,
dominating as a personality.
Yeah.
She seems like really quite sweet and humble.
But she also has like some very definite visions
about how she wants everything to look.
You can be both obviously.
Yeah.
Because I feel like there's stories about people who are terrible.
You know what I mean?
And like apparently there's lots of stories about like
Alan DeGeneres is terrible kind of.
There's a lot of talk about that apparently.
I don't know.
Like very particular?
Yeah, particular and terrible and whatever.
Her motto is be kind.
Well, apparently she's not.
Again, I don't know.
I can't speak to it.
But very few people will kind of openly say it because you wouldn't.
That's so interesting.
And Oprah apparently not that way and, you know, and then it depends.
There you go.
And look, I don't know.
I mean this is obviously as Beyonce's social media.
It's from her.
It's very curated.
Obviously, yeah, yeah.
And so it's a behind the scenes but it's a very flattering
behind the scenes look obviously and it kind of flicks
between kind of beautiful imagery and footage.
So it's not like a pure doco.
But it is so obviously it's very flattering in lots of ways.
Yeah.
Yeah, she just shows an artist at work.
Yeah, right.
And it's very interesting.
Her personality on stage is very different from her private life,
it seems to me anyway.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, it's really worth a watch.
So that was my favourite one.
And it has the music in it as well, is that right?
Oh, yeah.
It basically feels – it's the whole of her performance but done with kind
of jumping in and out of the timeline.
Yeah, right.
So it starts with her performance, like in this really iconic,
amazing Cleopatra moment she has.
The costumes are incredible.
But then it'll go back in to when they were rehearsing
and all the problems that happened and the way that she crafted
that particular thing.
And then she'll have kind of iconic statements about race and, you know,
the cultural divide and all of that kind of stuff too.
And so, yeah, she jumps in and out.
So you do get to see the whole of the performance but it's in pieces.
Yes.
And you actually can't, if you Google it,
it's very hard to find her Coachella performance in its entirety
because they've got the rights.
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah, it's really interesting.
Anyway, I love that.
The other one I loved was the fire documentary directed
by Chris Smith
about the fire festival.
Also was like made by the Fuck Jerry guys who also contributed
to the fire festival in itself.
Oh, did they?
They're this Instagram, Twitter, Facebook account that just rip
off people's content and put ads on it.
Oh, they sound wonderful.
A bunch of fucking.
Okay, well, maybe don't watch that except do because it's like.
Oh, it's so fascinating.
Oh, my goodness.
It's fascinating and kind of hilarious.
And there's just moments in that where you just can't believe
that it was actually a thing that actually happened.
Yeah.
Anyway, and that's on Netflix as well.
There's two.
There's another one as well, which I can't remember the name of.
Yeah, but the one, F-Y-R-E, directed by Chris Smith,
is I reckon, well, it's the one that I've heard the most raves
and rave reviews about and I watched them, really enjoyed.
Okay, comedy.
Well, I'm not finished yet because I was going to say,
tell me who I am I talked about.
Oh, you did.
The twins.
Two twins, one of them loses their memory and the other one kind of tells
him about his backstory and whatever and kind of rebuilds this guy's life.
But then it's also like, well, there may have been some omissions
and without spoiling it or whatever.
Yeah.
You should definitely watch that.
I think it's still on Netflix.
Yeah, it is.
I haven't watched it yet but, yeah.
And the other one is Free Solo which is about a man who,
I don't even know if that's from this year.
I love that though.
It might not be but I watched it this year.
It's about a guy who's at this mountain somewhere,
the American Rockies maybe, and it's about this guy
who climbs it without any climbing equipment
and the documentary team that follows him and they're also like,
well, if this guy falls, like we're partially responsible for this
because we are documenting it.
Documenting it.
Yeah.
So does that mean that like if we weren't doing this,
would he not feel pressured to do it?
But there's also like, well, I'm going to do it anyway.
So they're like, well, maybe we should do it if he's going to do it anyway,
I guess.
Yeah.
But then it's like, well, if he falls, then we're going to have
that footage, aren't we?
And it's just real.
Alex Honnold, it's a really interesting guy.
He's also got like the fear part of his brain is like not as developed
or small than like a regular person.
Yeah, because it's just insane what he has to do.
Like by his fingernails on his face, he's scaling this like insanely ridiculous rock.
But he climbs like a person walks.
Like it's quite incredible.
Yeah, it's fascinating.
I actually recently watched another documentary called The Dawn Wall,
which I wanted to talk about, which was also about a free climber.
I think they might even be the same.
Yeah, it's the same series of rock faces, but this one is The Dawn Wall.
There's different ways you can. Yeah, there's different pathways up the same series of rock faces but this one is the Dawn Wall. There's different ways you can.
Yeah, there's different pathways up the same sort of rock formations.
Yes.
So the Dawn Wall had never been climbed before.
Tommy Caldwell kind of makes it his life's ambition.
It's called the El Capitan in the Yosemite National Park.
Yes, that's right, Yosemite.
Yeah, Yosemite National Park.
There you go.
What's really interesting about this documentary is the backstory.
So weirdly, Tommy Cawdor has been climbing since he was five or something.
Yeah.
And he and his girlfriend and a couple of other friends went climbing
somewhere, it was like in the Middle East.
Right.
And they were captured by some soldiers and then by two of them
because they kind of got caught in the crossfire of a war
and then they were sort of walking through this wilderness,
this rocky terrain, and they had no water and no food
and it quickly became clear that these two soldiers actually had no plan
for what they were going to do with them.
Anyway, one of the guys disappeared to see if he could go
and find some water and food, one of the soldiers.
So they were just climbing with one soldier up this kind
of like edge of a cliff.
And Tommy came to the realisation, I think he was only like 19
or something, that this is his chance.
If they're going to escape, he has to push the guy off the cliff.
Oh, my God.
And can he do it?
And I don't know if he could.
Anyway, he did.
Pushes the guy off the cliff.
The guy just falls and falls to his death.
And then from there what kind of unravels,
because his girlfriend was there with him at the time,
they end up getting married and it's really interesting then
what happens to their relationship.
And at the same time he's trying to come to grips with the fact
that he's killed someone.
Yeah.
And so he gets kind of interviewed by all these big talk shows
and all this kind of stuff.
Anyway, he keeps climbing because climbing seems to be the only thing
that he can kind of unravel his mind through and process things.
That sounds fascinating.
It's so fascinating.
But then it's all kind of on the backdrop of him attempting the Dawn Wall,
which is very similar to that other documentary.
Does he have to push a guy for that as well?
No, but he does that with a mate.
So it's very different to the other doco because he has to do it with a friend.
I don't think it's – it almost doesn't seem possible.
I don't think you can do it by yourself.
You have to have someone to spot you because it's not a free –
I think it's a free climb, but the other one was done without ropes or anything.
Yes.
Whereas this is done – Maybe they were tethered to each other? No, it's a free climb, but the other one was done without ropes or anything. Yes. Whereas this is done.
Maybe they were tethered to each other?
No, it's still done with ropes.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure.
Oh, no, it's done with like they have a rope around them.
So they're climbing without rope, but they've attached.
So if they fall, they don't actually fall.
Oh, they're like putting the ropes in as they go.
Yeah, I don't know what that's called.
But, yeah, they've got like.
Yeah, that's pretty standard, I think.
Yeah, exactly. So it's a's called. But, yeah, they've got like. Yeah, that's pretty standard, I think. Yeah, exactly.
So it's a bit different to the other type of climbing.
But I think that's the only way that you could do this rock face.
So, anyway, highly recommend the Dawn Wall.
Cool.
Excellent.
Comedy.
What have you got?
Ooh, all right.
Okay, so.
Ooh.
Ooh.
So my favourite comedy special of the year was Kath and Ryan Glitter Room.
Ah, did I watch that?
Yes, I did.
I liked that one a lot.
You really liked that one too.
She's so funny.
I should have put it in while I am now.
Yeah, correct.
Yeah, she's great.
She's got another special as well.
That was really funny.
Yeah, it was really funny, wasn't it?
She's brilliant.
She's sort of my favourite comedy finder this year.
And the other one I saw, just comedy in general,
this is a live comedy show.
A live comedy show?
A live comedy show.
Unlike comedy shows that are recorded from the Zero Studio audience.
Correct, exactly.
And look, obviously like a lot of our podcasters have live comedy shows,
which I also really enjoyed,
but this one isn't part of the Planet Broadcasting Network.
Casey Workman did a comedy show in the comedy festival this year
called Giantess.
Yeah, right.
And she's a graphic artist and comedian who's also trans.
Right.
And it's really about her childhood and her story about coming out,
but it's done in this very kind of clever, funny,
third-person narrative story with her kind of graphic art.
It's not – I don't think you can find it anywhere because it was a live show.
Oh, so I went and saw it.
Oh, sorry.
I thought you meant like it was recorded.
Yeah, okay.
Oh, no, no, no.
I actually went and saw it.
I don't remember you telling me about this.
Yeah, I went and saw it.
It was in March.
So I may – I would have told you but it's a long time ago.
But she was brilliant.
She was nominated for an award in the Comedy Festival.
Yes.
So it was just brilliant and I loved it and it just sold out every night.
People were raving about it.
It was very – it walked that fine line of being incredibly moving
but also hilarious.
Okay.
Kind of like that Hannah Gatsby thing, would you say?
Yeah, very differently crafted.
Yeah, right.
Maybe a similar feeling, not angry.
This wasn't an angry one.
It was more just, it was a way of, yeah, it's like a story.
She was telling a story about a girl that was actually her,
but she's telling it in a third person like a children's storybook.
Okay, right.
And she has kind of the graphics to go with it.
And it's really about a girl who's a giantess, if that makes sense.
Because she's quite tall.
Yeah, well, because she's actually, she grew up as a boy.
Yeah, right, yeah.
And she's trying to explain to her family and her dad about herself
and how she came out and found who she is.
And, yeah, it was just, it was so beautiful.
So Cassie Workman, look out for her work.
Mike Babiglio, I just want to quickly mention,
you did one about having a kid and how that ruined his life.
But my favourite one I think was Gary Goleman, The Great Depression,
which I really love and I talk about extensively.
A lot of people raved about that too.
So it's about a guy who kind of, I've talked about this,
but he says he looks like he's got the physique and body of Gaston,
but he feels like Belle.
He's that kind of – so he plays football because he thinks he's short
or whatever, but he's actually quite gentle and meek.
But he's got this ridiculous athlete's body,
and this is about him dealing with depression and overcoming that
and anxiety and where is his comedy kind of at at this point in his life
because he's late 40s at this point, you know what I mean?
And this is, you know, he hasn't – he's not one of the biggest comedians
in the world.
This is – he probably is now after this.
But I just loved it.
I thought it was really good.
Yeah.
And really honest and just really funny.
Like that bit I put in or Colleen's put in about the water,
like you grew up in the 80s and like that was supposed to be so tough
and whatever but it was just mostly like neglect and poor education poor hydration hydration he just said that you know
people were saying that they bang on too much now about kids being hydrated he's like no
we really needed the water i think that's the funniest line of the whole year has come out
of that which was that life it's every day it's every day every single day yeah something like
that i really responded to that anyway we will be back next week because we've got to also It's every day. Yeah, it's every day, every single day. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, that's what it was. It was something like that.
I really responded to that.
Anyway, we will be back next week because we've got to also talk
about some of the stuff that we've read, TV shows, music and podcasts.
So don't worry if you're worried that this is the last show of the year,
which it might be.
No, it is.
It is the last show.
But there'll be one next week and then we'll take a little bit of a break
we'll talk about more that next week but do you have any uh any user requests or not user
i meant to say user reviews but i got confused listen to this james is on the end of his rope
i really am really on the end of his rope like his brain is fried yeah yeah i could tell as well you just like you just
sound you sound tired mate it's been a long year and you're coming to the end of what is your like
blockbuster yeah december's like december is your like ginormous month and you've been working like
christmas eve you're up till 3am working and the problem is there's so much incentive to work in
december because there's so much more money to be made on youtube which sounds terrible but something
i put out now will, like,
do, like, two or three times more than it will if I put it out in January.
So it's, like, this whole, like, debate of, like, do I kill myself to do this to relax?
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
I know, but that's basically what you've been doing.
So you've been smashing and burning the candle at both ends while I've been chilling.
Yes.
Just chilling and grilling.
Anyway, what have you got from?
Grill and cheese.
No, not really.
Okay, so this is from Dara Eaton.
I like Dara.
I'm for Eaton, yeah.
Yeah, legend.
I'm sure I'm too late for tomorrow's episode,
but I'll try and get in early for next week.
Well, here you are.
You made it.
Please watch Derry Girls.
The first season is on Netflix.
Oh, I'm going to watch Derry Girls.
And I think Claire and James would both love it.
It's funny.
It's moving.
It paints a great picture of the fascinating and troubled time in Irish
history.
But as I've said before,
watch with subtitles,
the North Irish accent or Northern Irish accent is a tricky one to follow.
Love the show.
Can't wait for the next episode.
Thank you.
You know what?
Derry girls.
I have already watched this Dara.
And honestly,
I didn't put that in my list.
Do you do the subtitles?
But I should have.
No, I don't.
I don't need the subtitles.
I'm just that I'm smarter than most.
Yeah, that's true.
No, seriously, I should have put this on my list
because it was one of the most hilarious shows.
Oh, my God.
I was in stitches.
One of those ones where I'm like, I've got to see that show.
It's just so funny about these Northern Ireland schoolgirls, really.
And I just, oh, my God.
So thank you, Dara, because I totally agree with you.
I've got a review here from Scooter Gone that says,
shocking Claire with Krampus.
Thank you so much for people who reviewed during the week.
We've got a few that was really helpful.
So good.
I really appreciate it.
It says, I love this episode.
This is the one where we did the Christmas stuff last year, last week.
James and Claire have great chemistry.
It's always a joy to listen to.
What I love about it is I can only imagine the look on Claire's face
when James describes Krampus.
Bloody got to keep up the good work.
You bloody did.
Krampus was so horrifying and I thought because the movie starred
Tony Collette that it was going to go down.
No, it's a terrible horror movie.
Christmas complex family time and instead it's like
a giant monster just eating and
killing people. Anyway, we've got to
wrap it up. See you next week
See you next week. A Merry Christmas
Happy New Year
Bye, Happy New Year to you and yours
Not to James, he's sad
I'm sad. And tired
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