Suggestible - Everything I Know About Love

Episode Date: June 16, 2022

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week’s Suggestibles:02:26 Hustle11:47 Everything I Know About Love22:42 Su...ggestible and the City podcast28:42 The Registrar by Neela Janakiramanan32:22 Tonts podcast with Neela (Coming this Friday!)36:49 The "Sperm Race" Suggestible episodeSend your recommendations to suggestiblepod@gmail.com, we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Jessi Cruikshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it, or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to Airbnb.ca slash host. Bing bong, bing bing bong, bitty bitty bitty bong, bitty bitty bong, bong bong bong bong. Wow, very jazzy today. I know, they're getting more and more jazzy, have you noticed?
Starting point is 00:00:42 Not really my thing. You know the thing about jazz is. Do you like ones more like this? Bing, bing, bing, bing. Bing, bing, bing. Is that the Rocky thing? Bing, bing, bing. Yeah. I have a Rocky-esque recommendation today. It's actually a poem. No, it's not a poem.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Is it one that I've already read before? Hey, listen. I just want everybody to know that I knew Clare Doher already read the poem. It was a prank and you all got pranked and it wasn't me that forgot. I actually got all of you. The trickiest part about that whole situation was that I was almost not going to say anything because I just was so excited that you brought a poem in and that you liked it, you resonated with the poem
Starting point is 00:01:23 and I was like, fine. It doesn't matter. It was a long time ago. You weren't, it's fine. But then when you started going how much you love Twitter for like giving you a fabulous poem. You couldn't give Twitter the credit that it deserved. No, I bloody couldn't.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Elon musking it around here. Well, he doesn't own Twitter. Well, he doesn't anymore, does he? Or at all, never did. Tried though. Who knows? Who knows what's going on there? Or at all, never did. Tried though. Who knows? Who knows what's going on there? Let's not talk about it.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Let's not. So, Claire, on this show, I say to you, have you got a recommendation? And you say yes. I haven't done my intro for the show yet. And then you say to me, have you got a recommendation? Yes. And I say yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And then we do that two times each and then the show ends. Yeah. Should we follow that formula this week? Well, you forgot the part where you make fun of me and i make fun of you and then it gets derailed by something and occasionally i sing a song i think mainly you just say you hate everything people know that all of that was in the preamble like it was subtext the way it started the way we're talking at the same time can you stop Can you stop talking over me for one goddamn second? Just in case you're new to this show, hello. Welcome to Suggestible, a podcast where we recommend you things
Starting point is 00:02:31 to watch, read, and listen to. My name is Claire Totty. James Clemon is here also, unfortunately. I said all this. We are married. I said all this already. You did not. You just said some weird thing about back and forth.
Starting point is 00:02:42 You didn't actually say what the show was called. That's what a podcast is. All right. It's banter. It's a bit of this back and forth. You can actually say what the show was called. That's what a podcast is. All right. It's banter. It's a bit of this. No, everyone hates that. It's a bit of this. People love banter.
Starting point is 00:02:52 No, everyone's like just stop indulging yourself indulgence and like get on with your actual jobs. That is actually true. Claire, speaking of, what is the recommendation that you have this week? Oh, you can go first this time. I went first last time. Great. This one's called Hustle.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Wow. It's a movie. So aggressive. It stars Adam Sandler and a name I'm going to try but still fail. Juancho Hernan Gomez, right? Professional basketball player from Spain who also stars in this movie. Queen Latifah, Ben Foster, Robert Duvall.
Starting point is 00:03:29 You might know Robert Duvall from the movie The Sixth Day, the Arnold Schwarzenegger clone movie. You've seen that movie? No. And that's the only movie that I remember that he's been in. I see. No, he's a very famous and well-known actor. I wonder if there will be a day where you ever say, have you seen this movie?
Starting point is 00:03:42 And I say, yes. His hero, he was the original Frank Burns in the MASH movie. Oh, well, I do know that. Not the TV series, I believe. He was also in The Godfather, one of them or two of them. I have a horse head in my garden. That's basically the famous line. Not in the garden, it's in the bed.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Tony, there's a horse head in my bed. Tony, is this your horse head? I'm in a restaurant. I'm eating some pasta on a checkered tablecloth. That's the movie. Such haunting scenes. So after a down on his like basketball scout. Luke, I am your father.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Oh, no, that's the wrong movie. Luke. Pass me the spaghetti. Yeah, my meatball rolled off the table. After a down on his like basketball scout discovers. I saw a bit today from Pete Holmes from a few years back. It was like the only people you can be racist to now are Italians. And it's true.
Starting point is 00:04:35 You can just be openly racist against Italians. You can. Mamma mia. I mean, you're Italian. Yeah, I am. So technically I'm allowed. And I might be Italian because I'm a fucking mutt. So I don't know. No, you're Italian. Yeah, I am. So technically I'm allowed. And I might be Italian because I'm a fucking mutt, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:49 No, you're definitely not Italian. You don't have an Italian bone in that body of yours, mate. I can tell. Your little stomach only handles potatoes. That is true. Anyways, after – Also, going to Ireland, basically every second person looks exactly like you. They're your people. Miserable, pale, kind of like intense eyes.
Starting point is 00:05:07 What are you saying about the Irish people? You cannot be racist against the Irish. Anyways, after a down-and-he's-like basketball scout discovers an extraordinary player abroad, so that's Adam Sandler who's a basketball scout, he brings the phenomenon back without his team's approval. So his job as a 50 plus year old man is to scout the country and the world for potential NBA draft picks. Right. I see. He works for a basketball
Starting point is 00:05:33 company, which I believe they're called. They're the 76ers. And Robert Duvall, his boss is like, there's a horse head in my bed and I'm going to make you an assistant coach. And he's like, thank God. I don't have to go run around the world anymore. I want to hang out with my family, including Queen Latifah and our kid. And I just want to stop eating hotel food, right? But then Robert Duvall dies and his son takes over. This happens very early.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And then he's back on the road, which is where he finds this guy, right? So, but the way he comes across him, because normally he'll go to like a game, like a local game or whatever, but he comes, just happens across a street, just some street ball, some street balling. And he sees this guy and he's like, what the hell is this? Like, he's just an absolute,
Starting point is 00:06:17 he's called like a unicorn, a freak. Like the fact that he's been missed. It's just, it's very unusual that you come across a person like this. Who is that? Yeah, with like the height and – because like height and skill, they very rarely correlate as we've seen in a bunch of kids. We've seen a bunch of kids running around and there's a really tall one who's just like, ugh, ugh, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Anyways, so he's basically giving this kid a chance to play in the NBA and the actor who plays him is a real NBA player which would then raise him and his family out of poverty and also basically give Adam Sandler's character the opportunity to do something he's always wanted to do, like coach a team and basically bring this guy who's a nice guy as well into the big leagues, Claire. And also, of course, he's a nice guy as well, like into the big leagues, Claire. And also, of course, he's completely out of his depth
Starting point is 00:07:07 because he's like he's a kid that like, you know, he hustles in streetball. Like that's his kind of thing. Like he has the ability. But, you know, everybody in the NBA is phenomenal. Even if you play on a team and you don't get any court time, you still get an incredible salary and you're one of the best players in the world, you know, regardless.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Even the worst player is leagues better than anybody else. But look, Claire, it's got heart. It's got montages. Ooh, I love a montage. It's got redemption. It's got comeuppance. It's also by Happy Madison, who you might know, Adam Sandler's production company, who've just been increasingly making the worst movies you've ever seen
Starting point is 00:07:46 over the past 20 or so years. But, of course, Adam Sandler, he's amazing. Like he really is. He's an amazing, like, creative person. And even his comedy movies, like they're not for me, you know, but people like them. They make people happy. And this is obviously a more serious, seriously timed movie.
Starting point is 00:08:03 But it's also very funny as well. He's been doing interesting stuff. Well, he did. You saw Uncut Gems, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's amazing. Like, he's an incredible actor. And, like, a writer.
Starting point is 00:08:12 He is. I love The Wedding Singer. Yeah, no, he has made great comedies as well. And he's, like, funny in, you know, various things and whatever. But it is, like, what's also strange is it's a Netflix original and it's very good. And those things don't often. That is almost like what's also strange is it's a Netflix original and it's very good. And those things don't often. That is almost like the unicorn of the movie.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah. To be honest. So, look, if you're like, you know, if you like sports movies or, you know, motivational movies or just a good, light, fun, good time, it's not like, like you kind of know where it's going because, you know, it's that kind of formula that you're used to, redemption and sport and doing a big space jam, all of those things. But there's something really lovely about those sports movies.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, definitely. I love that. And this is a really good one. So I think Hustle, I believe it's called, on Netflix. Hustle. Hustle. No, it's Hustle. Hustle.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Spanish. Hustle. Hustle on the Hustle.. Hostelé. Spanish. Hostelé. Hostelé on the Hostelé. Yes. All right. Excellent. I'm trying to think of other sporting movies that I've really much enjoyed. A League of Their Own, obviously.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I've never seen A League of Their Own. What? No, actually. Gina Davis. That's not true. I have seen it, but I saw it like 40 years ago. Oh, it's so good. Even though I'm not 40.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I haven't seen it in a long time, but I think it holds up. Tom Hanks as well. Madonna, did you say? Yeah, Madonna. It's so good. I mean, Gina Davis is bloody brilliant. I think they were going to do a sequel to thatanks as well. I think it holds up. Madonna, did you say? Yeah, Madonna. It's so good. I mean, Gina Davis is bloody brilliant. I heard they were going to do a sequel to that, I heard. I heard that too, vaguely, somewhere.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Rosie O'Donnell was in it as well. Is that right? Yes, it's so good. I mean, I haven't seen it in a few years, but I think it holds up. I'm pretty sure it holds up. So good. One of my favourite sports movies is, did you see, have you seen Warrior? It's about the MMA and it's got Joel Edgerton in it and he's an MMA fighter.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yes, I have seen that. I really enjoyed that. I mean, apparently if you know anything about MMA, it's like, it's nonsense. But I think it's great. There's another fight movie too about that, like a boxing one. Well, Halle Berry just did one called Bruised, which is apparently pretty good as well. And there's the one with Sandra Bullock as the coach. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that one too. No, I was apparently pretty good as well. And there's the one with Sandra Bullock as the coach. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It's that one too. No, I was thinking of Million Dollar Baby. No, but that's a good movie too. What's the one when she's the coach? Do you know what? This isn't a movie. Not The Blind Side, is it? Yes, The Blind Side.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Isn't that really bad and problematic? No, I think it's supposed to be really good. I think it's about like a white woman like saving a black kid or something, isn't it? Actually, I haven't seen it. But I heard it was really good. Maybe it's terrible. Do you know what I did really enjoy? Remember the Titans?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yes. I love Remember the Titans. Also, Friday Night Lights. Not a movie. A TV series. No, it is a movie. It was a movie and then it was a TV series. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I don't think the movie's – the movie's good. But I think the series is better. Oh, the series. Connie Britton in that. Her hair alone deserves an Oscar. My goodness. So great. But that is a really cool sporting movie.
Starting point is 00:10:49 It's got that redemption arc thing. And also Ted Lasso. Oh, yeah. It's getting one more season, I believe. Love that. Oh, I love. There's a Keanu Reeves movie from the 90s called The Replacements where they get a bunch of reject NFL players to play
Starting point is 00:11:03 because all the teams go on strike. And in hindsight, I'm like, yeah, they should go on strike because they should pay these people properly. And at the time it's framed as like these selfish athletes. Look at them wanting more money from the NFL. It's like, yeah, they should. But it's got like, it's got Gene Hackman and it's got Reese Ephans. Do you know him?
Starting point is 00:11:24 The guy from Four Weddings. Not Four Weddings. The one with Julia Roberts and he's the housemate with Hugh Grant. Notting Hill. Oh, Notting Hill. He's in it. It's great. It's ridiculous, but I love it.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Oh, cool. All right. I haven't seen that. Anyways, what's your movie? My last two favorite sports movies before I move on. Mighty Ducks. Oh, yeah. I love Mighty Ducks.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Did you watch the series? There was a series on. No, I did not. There's a recent series and it brings back a bunch of people from the original, including Mila Oesteves. And what's her name from Gilmore Girls? Oh, Lorelei. Yeah, she's in it as well.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I love her. Oh, so good. All right, cool. And also the other one I like is Cool Runnings. Cool Runnings is great. Bloody classic. Love that. All right, my turn.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I'm so excited. I don't know. The Goon movies are good as well. Anyway, sorry, go on. What's the Goon movie? It's about, it's got Stifler from the Mighty Ducks. Ah, yes. Mighty Ducks from American Pie.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And he's a hockey player, but his job is just to fight people on the ice. It's really good. Both of them are really good. I think they're both terrific. Cool. All right. Okay. Now, I don't know if anyone remembers from last week,
Starting point is 00:12:25 I talked briefly that Everything I Know About Love by Dolly Alderson, her popular 2018 memoir is being turned into a TV series and it is officially out on BBC, iPlayer, and also all the episodes are currently on Stan, which is not an ad. It's just a public service announcement if you're living in Australia and want something cool to watch. So I have been so excited for this as a lot of millennial women have been
Starting point is 00:12:50 who have been big fans of that book and also her second book, Ghosts. Very excellent. So this follows the story sort of loosely and it's actually really interesting. It's clearly slated for more than one series because they've only done part of the story in this first year. How much of the book only done part of the story. Okay. In this first series. How much of the book would you say? I'd say it's probably the first third. Oh, that would make at least four series.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yeah, exactly. Anyway, so the storyline goes, Maggie and Bertie, besties since school, finally land in London to live at large. When the unexpected happens, dependable birdie gets a steady boyfriend. A generous, funny, warm-hearted and uplifting Sex and the City for Millennials, which covers bad dates and squalid flat shares, heartaches and humiliations, and most importantly, unbreakable female friendships. Oh, wonderful.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Right. So it's a really great cast. It's got Emma Appleton playing Maggie, who is ostensibly Dolly Upton. She was in The Witcher, Pistol and Traitors. She's got Emma Appleton playing Maggie, who is ostensibly Dolly Upton. She was in The Witcher, Pistol and Traitors. She's really great in this. Belle Powley, who's from The Morning Show, the informer, Diary of a Teenage Girl. She plays Birdie. Yeah, I remember she's British in The Morning Show. I remember she's having an affair with one of the weathermen or something.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Correct. Yeah. Why isn't The Morning Show good? Why isn't that a good show? I don't know. What's wrong with that show? The first season was quite good. Was good? Why isn't that a good show? I don't know. What's wrong with that show? The season was quite good. Was it? Anyway, sorry, go on. Can I continue?
Starting point is 00:14:08 Yes, I'm sorry. All right. So she's really great. And I saw an interview with Belle Polly where she was saying she was terrified she could never say Jennifer Aniston's name because she was constantly going to say Rachel all the time and had to keep it quiet. But she's really sweet and lovely in this. Miley Seau was in Alex Rider.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So she plays Nell. So there's kind of a, there's four of them in this kind of flat share that are the central characters. And she's very cynical and funny and grounded. She plays a teacher in this. Okay. And then also the fourth in the, so the fourth girl is played by Alea. Are you going to leave that bit in where you said it weirdly?
Starting point is 00:14:45 No. I mean, it wasn't incorrect technically, but you said it in a very strange way. Collings, please take all of this out, including James, for most of the episode. Oh, come on, Collings. People wouldn't like that, I think. Oh, anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I hope. Alaya Adofin is playing Amara, who is a dancer but kind of quite torn and has kind of given up her dream to work in a corporate job and is secretly dreaming of going back to dancing. And that's really interesting too, her whole storyline. So, yeah, the four of them, it's really a look particularly at the love between Emma, Appleton's character Maggie, and Bertie because they've been friends since high school
Starting point is 00:15:25 and there's kind of flashbacks in about it. So really it's a rom-com. Do they play themselves in the past as well? No. Okay. No, they have kind of teenagers playing them. And I think what's really interesting is even though, yes, it's a rom-com, there's all the bad dates and the bad sex
Starting point is 00:15:41 and the grimy apartments and the parties. And it very much reminds you of that kind of like 2012 London drunken parties and house, you know, shares and all of that messiness that happens in your twenties. And it's just really nostalgic and awesome, but it's really about female friendship at the heart of it. And the great love story is actually between Maggie and Bertie and what happens there to their friendship. And I think it's really resonant and important at this time as well because there's so many people I've spoken to who say
Starting point is 00:16:14 that they've had difficult times in their friendships, particularly female friendship during the pandemic especially as well. Right, yeah, okay. And also that's what was so loved about Sex and the City, the look at female friendship in a way that isn't frivolous because I think for so long, as we know, most media has been written by men and there's this narrative that it always has to be romantic love and I think, yes,
Starting point is 00:16:36 male friendships, and this is heterosexual friendships, are of a particular ilk but I think there's something really complex and deep about female friendship that isn't always explored in this way and isn't held with the same kind of gravity that I think romantic love can be held by. And Dolly does a really great job, I think, of articulating that feeling of when you're best friends with someone and you see them every second of every day and they know everything about you. And other than the fact that you don't sleep together and, you know, have that kind of vibe, when you're friends from, you know, school and in your teenage years, you're so close and you know each other so well.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And then what happens when that person suddenly gets a boyfriend and then the relationship kind of completely changes almost overnight when they fall in love and suddenly, and I think this happens to guys as well and non-binary people too, I'm sure, it's the idea that that relationship and that friendship that you thought was completely pivotal to your whole life can completely disintegrate or completely change. And suddenly what that person and the intimacy you had with that person, they're now giving to their romantic partner. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And it's really heartbreaking. And it's really heartbreaking to watch in this as well. It's also really fun and over the top. And I think, you know, in spots that might be a little bit self-indulgent, but overall, I just, I loved it. The chemistry between the cast is really good. Nathan, who is Birdie's boyfriend, who's this very kind of nerdy, straight up and down kind of accountant type guy, is played by Ryan Brown. And Connor Finch plays Street, who is kind of Maggie's boyfriend in this, who is a musician and he plays it so well. That kind of horrible but sort of heart of gold but not really kind of guy
Starting point is 00:18:24 who's built up in his head a version of himself and he's very self-important and he knows, you know, deep things about music. Ooh. To that level where you have to listen to a whole album to really appreciate even the terrible songs. Boom. You know, that kind of music snobbery.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, I hate it. You know, yeah, and he wears hats and, like, has tats and thinks he's, like like this particular, you know, whenever he's standing or sitting somewhere, you can tell he's seeing a vision of himself in his head. Okay. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That kind of guy and so and he's really hot and cold with her and she doesn't know where she stands. He kind of treats her horribly and she keeps showing up and kind of wanting him to treat her horribly and just the juxtaposition between that sort of relationship and then the relationship that Birdie has with Nathan because she's so innocent and sweet and sort of, you know, quite conservative and they have this very sweet kind of love affair
Starting point is 00:19:19 and it's just a very different and they just become more and more different as that goes on and Dolly's, well, it Dolly really Maggie's the most central character but her drinking and partying is becoming more and more problematic clearly and that's kind of what comes through in the book that in your 20s initially it's totally fine to be like partying every night and hung over all the time and taking you know drugs and whatever else you're doing and that is okay to be kind of charismatic and messy. But what happens when that starts to carry later into your 20s and then you're approaching 30 and that dynamic changes and when your friends also change.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. That's really interesting to watch too. So anyway, I'm just really enjoying it and it's a real escapism and it's a celebration of millennial female friendship, I think. And I loved it. You love a celebration. I do. I do love a celebration.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I love a celebration right here, Claire. I don't know if a bit of news counts as something that you can bring to suggestible. Oh, actually, can I say one more thing? You can say one more thing. I will allow it. All right. Just one.
Starting point is 00:20:22 So I wanted to say as well, it's made by a working title in the BBC and it's directed by Chyna Moo Young. Now, she's really exciting as a rising English director working in television. She graduated from Bristol University's film, theater and TV program and she regularly does commercials and music videos. She's also directed an episode of Pennyworth and- Oh, the Alfred Pennyworth prequel series? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah, that Bruce Wayne. I know what it is. Batman inspired spin off. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you might find that interesting. And multiple episodes of The Rook, a supernatural spy drama. So she really has not done that much.
Starting point is 00:21:00 She's also directed a couple of episodes of Call the Midwife and Secret Diary of a Call Girl and Scott and Bailey, but they're small kind of things. So to take on a whole series in this way with the BBC, I think it's really exciting that they've given this opportunity to her and she's smashed it. I think she's done a really excellent job. And you can tell Dolly's kind of put her whole heart into this show too. So just really exciting to see emerging female directors doing well. Would you like to see more of Dolly Alderson's work being adapted for screen? Totally, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Ghosts, her second novel, would definitely work for screen for sure. Let's keep it light. It's actually about ghosting, James. Oh, that's scary. Being left. Yeah, it's terrifying. I've been hearing. Yeah, it's actually, yeah, it's terrifying. I've been hearing more and more about the dating scene at the moment with apps and things and, my God, that's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:21:50 See, if I was on the dating scene, I would simply find someone to fall in love with. What's wrong with everybody? Yeah, I know. The problem is, James, you'd have to find someone to fall in love with you. Oh. And their lives are a conundrum. You know what?
Starting point is 00:22:03 You're right, actually. I did actually miss a big kind of component of dating just then. love with you. Oh. And there lies your conundrum. You know what? You're right, actually. I did actually miss a big kind of component of dating just then. So maybe it would take a little bit longer than I thought. But again, I still think I'd probably be really good at it. It's nice to know you're humble. Nothing but humble. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 What did you say before? Height and ability rarely correlate. It's true. I would agree with that. Wait. In a good way or a bad way? Well, what are you saying? Height and ability never correlate.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Are people putting their height on their profiles? Is that a thing people are still doing? I don't know. Probably. I think so because people tend to exaggerate it, right? Yeah. But, like, for me, I don't care how tall someone is. But I'm like 5'9", 5'10". Who knows?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Maybe I'm 6 foot. It doesn't matter. Yeah, but you might be too short for some women. That's what I'm saying. So I don't want to turn up and someone's like, oh. And they're like 6'3". For me, I'd be like, you're giant. That's great.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But I don't know whether that's something that somebody – You're giant. That's great. That was my first thing. You're giant. That's great. And then I'd jump up and give them something that somebody. You're giant. That's great. That was my first thing. You're giant. That's great. And then I jump up and give them a kiss on the cheek. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Okay. Anyways. All right. Cool. Well, it's good to know, James. So if you know this, this is via Michael Patrick King, director and creator of Sex and the City and Just Like That. He was speaking to Variety and he was asked whether Samantha
Starting point is 00:23:24 would be returning for season two or specifically still be texting. Now, for people who don't know, we did a Sex in the City recap podcast and just like that where you watched us get initially like, this is better than we thought it would be, and by then go, boo, we hate this now, which is how all fandom is. But anyway, we had an ongoing debate about whether Samantha would return. It was called Samantha Speculation. All the episodes are there if you are interested. We'll probably come back and do season two, I'd imagine, next year. I think it's filming in like
Starting point is 00:23:56 October. But Claire, you were adamant that she was not going to come back. And I was saying there was a chance that she would. It turns out that he said it's also new right now. One of my big rules is don't tell things until they're real. My goal is to bring all the characters into the mix together so that they're not so much on separate runways. What does this mean though, Claire? It doesn't. Okay, so you get your knickers in a little twist.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You showed me this the other day like you were some smuggy, smugger sense. May I remind you, he has not said that Kim Cattrall will be in the TV show. And he has not even actually said that Samantha will actually be on screen either. All he was asked about was the text messages. And, of course, she will play a role in the TV series in the way that she has been already off screen and texting and all the things. I think they did that. That was one of the things that actually got right,
Starting point is 00:24:52 the text messages you would believe they were from Samantha. So I just don't understand why you're feeling smug at all. I'm not feeling smug, Claire. I don't think there's any, any indication that Kim Pachala will be anywhere near this. In fact, Kim Pachala has come out and done all of this press and all these speeches about the power of saying no. We've been down this road.
Starting point is 00:25:13 No, but it's literally the last two weeks. Like she's come out to talk about it and about how the power of saying no and how there's, you know, nothing left for her in that character and she didn't want to go backwards in her career and yada, y, yeah, yeah. I will bet my bottomest dollar that she is never going to be on the Sex and the City TV series. Sex and the City TV series.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I bet my bottom dollar, my last one, my bottom dollar. I think there's a very good chance that you are correct. Again, I think it's a minor chance, but money talks, Claire. No, you don't think money would have already talked? The problem is Sarah Jessica Parker will always be paid more than Kim. No, not at this point, I don't think. Yes. No.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yes. No. Yes. No. Contractually, it's written in stone. I mean, because she's also a producer, et cetera, and so forth, probably yes. But I'm saying for the amount of, if she comes back. No, no.
Starting point is 00:26:08 She will not come back. And she would want to be paid equivalent to Sarah Jessica Parker, and she will not be. And she just won't. It's contractually done. And look, I don't know whether it's actually right. I think Sarah Jessica Parker probably should have just acquiesced. I mean, they have so much money.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Just bloody make it all equal like the Friends, you know, cast did. I think that would have made sense. However, Sarah Jessica Parker does sell Sex and the City and she's a producer and she's done so much extra behind the scenes. I agree. But Kim Cattrall will, like, that's not part of it. She just wants the same amount and she's not going to get it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And I just don't think they could feasibly. They could be like, we'll give you $4 million to do like eight scenes. Don't you think if they wanted to, they would have already? They have a bottomless pit of money. They would have. They would have offered her. It's a bottomless pit of money, but you weigh it up. It's like there's a graph in Hollywood. It's called the Hollywood graph. It's a bottomless bit of money, but you weigh it up. It's like there's a graph in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:27:06 It's called the Hollywood graph. It's pronounced like that. It's great to have an expert in here. It is, isn't it? It's a correlation. What did we say? Might and knowledge correlate? Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So basically if they believe that they can get value about paying her a certain amount of money, they can receive that money in HBO Max subscriptions and then selling it to various platforms around the world. Uh-huh. And she's willing to come back. That number can be quite high because they will still make profit on it. I'm saying, all I'm saying is it's possible, Claire.
Starting point is 00:27:36 That is all I'm saying. Right. Nah. Nah. All right. Samantha's speculation. You've been saying that the whole time. Is what I say. All right. Samantha speculation. You've been saying that the whole time. Is what I say.
Starting point is 00:27:47 All right. What's your next pick? That was the music for Claire is Right. You were very into that. Can I just press that button now whenever I'm going to be right? Sure. And I'll press this button. I will dance around.
Starting point is 00:28:01 When you're wrong. Oh, I didn't realize that did a little laughy thing. It's a little laughing. All right. Anyway, I actually had a real one, but what's your thing? Oh, okay. Great. Well, I do have a real one.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Can I just go on with mine? Yeah. All right. Excellent. So I'm all thrown. Why am I thrown? Don't know. Don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:22 It was the laugh track. I'm not enjoying it. It's been sitting there for so many years and I've never known. I should have not told you that. I know. Anyway, distracted. And I want to know what all the other buttons do now. Can I just test them out?
Starting point is 00:28:35 You can do it after. It's fine. Here we go. Oh, yeah. Oh, the what was. Okay. Oh, drumsticks. Drumsticks. Oh, that's so spooky. It's a good one. Oh, drumsticks. Drumsticks.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Oh, that's so spooky. It's so loud. Oh, that's nice. Peaceful. No, it's cricket. It's like bad joke. It's cricket. Oh, I thought it was birds.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Okay, last one. Those are pre-programmed. I love that. Anyway. How have I not known about this? You are lucky listeners I've never known. We should swap sides. Those colleagues.
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Starting point is 00:29:32 a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Back to it. Okay. So actually, I have a really cool recommendation this week um for my second one as well i'm excited it's a book it's coming out in july so coming up very soon it's called the registrar by dr nila janakiramanan and she is an incredible surgeon who fixes hands and wrists so she's a reconstructive plastic surgeon she also works um removing skin cancers as well. Okay, cool. But aside from that in her sort of illustrious career doing that, she is also an advocate. So she advocates for social justice across the medical profession in Australia and she was really instrumental
Starting point is 00:30:16 in getting the Medivac Bill passed. So I don't know if you remember this but we have horrible, horrible detention centres here for refugees and our system is awful. And so there were a lot of asylum seekers who were becoming very sick on the islands where our detention centres are and not being able to receive adequate medical treatment over there. And the doctors were really concerned that they were going to die basically.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. And the Australian government had a really hard line and said they wouldn't bring them to the mainland for medical treatment. Anyway, NILA and a team of other medical professionals encouraged doctors all around Australia to write letters to their MPs and local members, encouraging them to support this bill. And with all of that community groundswell, the thousands and thousands of letters written, the bill was passed and those asylum seekers were allowed to receive medical treatment on the mainland, which was really amazing. So that's part of the advocacy that she does. She's
Starting point is 00:31:16 also been across our media a lot during COVID, giving people up-to-date information and also advocating for better medical care and better support within the system. So she's just a really incredible advocate and person. And as well as all of that, she also happens to be a really great author. So this book is a fictional story about a new registrar called Emma Swan. So dedicated and ambitious, Emma Swan is about to start a grueling year as a surgical registrar at the prestigious Mount Teaching Hospital, and she's excited to join her adored older brother, Andy, pursuing
Starting point is 00:31:49 the same career as their father, who was an eminent surgeon who made his name at that hospital, the Mount. But the pressure of living up to his distinguished reputation is nothing compared with the escalating stress Emma experiences as a registrar. It's an arduous, unremitting slog of 20-hour days, punishing schedules, life and death decisions, and very little assistance, instructional support from her superiors, who waste no time pointing out just how superior they are.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Amidst a background culture of humiliation and bullying, being a woman just making things worse, so misogyny seems to be rife as well as racism within the medical profession. Yeah, and particularly in hospitals. It's a deep look and it's clever that Nila has done it in a fictionalised way because it's a deep look at the problems in our medical system inherent in our hospitals and the way that there isn't people caring for the people who care for us, so the nurses and the doctors,
Starting point is 00:32:47 the hierarchy, particularly in surgery, the way that senior surgeons speak to the people under them, it's awful. It's sort of like… It's a really toxic environment, like from with a few people who are doctors, nurses and whatever, and it's awful. It sounds awful. I know, and they have this kind of philosophy of particularly in surgery, they'll break you to make you. And if they break you, that means that
Starting point is 00:33:11 you just aren't cut out for it. Correct. Exactly. Which is ridiculous because don't you want people who are like compassionate and want to, I don't know. Yeah, exactly. You want people who are compassionate and empathetic. I mean, I guess part of what Nila talks about, because I interview her for Tons and that episode is coming out on Friday. So it's clever that she's done it in this way because it's not a memoir. It's not based on her own lived experiences in her personal life. Yeah. But it is based on overall broadly her experience and knowledge
Starting point is 00:33:42 of stories from her colleagues and from life in a hospital. So she's able to make criticisms and critiques of fictional characters that clearly parallel things that are happening in the real world. The reason she wrote it, and I didn't realise this as well, was because a friend of hers, a medical doctor, killed herself from suicide. Oh, God. Yeah, and she said, I hadn't realised, but it's actually quite common
Starting point is 00:34:04 in the medical profession within hospital settings, because part of the problem is they're underfunded and understaffed and the population has grown so much. So they're just divided. There's just not enough doctors and nurses for the amount of patients that there are. And so the system seems to just keep spreading them thinner and thinner. And then when that happens, mistakes happen, accidents happen, things are missed and people, you know, we're dealing with life and death here. So it's, anyway, it sounds like a very dark book, but it's actually very racy. It reads a little bit like a psychological thriller in some parts. It's got
Starting point is 00:34:43 some very saucy sex scenes in it too. It's also about the relationship between a senior surgeon and Emma herself and kind of how that plays out. And she does a really good job of writing what happens when there's sort of a power imbalance and the grey areas around those kind of relationships and how senior figures can take advantage of women. And she said that was sort of inspired also by the events that have been happening in Parliament House as well, and in other industries too, where there's a clear age gap and a power dynamic where the powerful person has the ability to lift that person up and give them career opportunities.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And it's just very, you know, fraught. It's a really excellent book. I highly recommend it. It's called The Registrar and it's coming out in July. I'm looking forward to your interview, Claire, if anything. I mean, the book sounds amazing, but it sounds like this woman would be worth listening to an interview for. Oh, she's fascinating. All the stuff we talked a lot about, the history too
Starting point is 00:35:38 of hospital settings and the patriarchy and how medicine has changed over time. There's almost, there's like 51% of graduates now are women, settings and the patriarchy and how medicine has changed over time. There's almost, there's like 51% of graduates now are women. But the way that the system has been set up over time was completely patriarchal. So there's some really interesting things that Nila talks about in that context as well. And she's just a really incredibly articulate, fascinating person. She's one of those people that can just seemingly do everything.
Starting point is 00:36:06 She's now decided she wants to write a murder mystery. So that's what she's doing. Does she know of a real life murder she's basing it on? No. But wouldn't that be interesting? She's got three kids as well, which is really interesting. We have three kids. Yeah, I have three kids. That's a great joke. For a minute I was like, I'm just going to leave this on.
Starting point is 00:36:29 This feels quite odd. Yeah. You never get the immediate feedback in a podcast, which is why when you've ever done one live, it's like feedback is very upsetting. We should do a live one, but you hate doing live things. I do, and I don't want to. Anyways, Claire, do you know something people can do for us?
Starting point is 00:36:48 No, I don't. It's they can actually review the show. I know. It's the easiest thing in the world. So you do know. So you can just do it in app. This is from Mr. Loiter who says, that ending, this is a five-star review, by the way,
Starting point is 00:36:58 just in app, so easy, whatever app you're on. The best part of each episode is when Claire looks lovingly into James' eyes and says, you know, you could come over to taunt with me. But then they both see the light in the sky and a glowing image of Nick Mason's face against the clouds. And she says, I forgot you're already taken. Then they ride off in their separate ways. Interesting, isn't it? So yeah, that's very true. Like it's very poignant. And thank you for the review, Mr. Loiter, who's obviously been loitering around the review section of our podcast. He has, loitering around. I don't
Starting point is 00:37:30 really understand that review, but it seems... He's saying that basically we should do a podcast together on tons or whatever, but I'm already tied to Nick Mason, and there's a Nick Mason signal in the sky, like a bat symbol, but it's Nick Mason's face. I see. Oh, Mason. He's so lovely. Yeah, why don't you marry him then, Claire? I'm face. I see. Oh, Mason. He's so lovely.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah. Why don't you marry him then, Claire? I've already married to you. Oh, yeah. Anyway, keep going. All right. Okay. So I don't know if you remember a few weeks ago we had a little conversation about a sperm race.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Oh, yeah. Do you remember this? I do very much so. Okay. So a lovely Olivia has written in to us. Hello, James and Claire. My name is Olivia and I am a nurse. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Oh, no. An actualoh. Oh, no. An actual expert. Oh, no. It's almost like we didn't know what we were talking about. I wanted to let you know your numbers were correct on your last podcast. Fuck yeah. Woo. The average ejaculation has 150 to 500 million sperm.
Starting point is 00:38:18 That's crazy. That is crazy. That's what I'm doing about the sperm race. It's crazy. It's so crazy. I know. Many are not viable, though, and act mostly as characters. Characters?
Starting point is 00:38:28 Characters. Characters. Carriers for the healthy sperm. Little known fact, the first sperm to reach the egg is not the one to fertilize it. This is what we didn't know. Why is that? The first sperms to reach the egg actually bag up against it. I think she means bag.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Oh, bang up against it. Bag up against it. They bag it out. Oi Oh, bang up against it. Bag up against it. They bag it out. Oi, let me in. Let me in. I'm a person. So they bang up against it to weaken the wall so that the strong sperm can get through.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Oh, wow. So it's like a team effort. Oh, my God. So weird. So I wonder if that means, because our whole argument was based around if you knocked someone over, if it would be a different sperm. So basically they kill it away. And then like the strongest sperm comes in like bum, ba-dum, bum, bum, bum.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Clear the way. And he's wearing like a cool high school football jacket. Ba-ba-dum, ba-ba. I don't know if that's entirely mentally accurate. Everyone's high-fiving with their little tails. Come on in, buddy. Yeah. In you come.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Anyway, what's next? All right. So she said, yeah, so. In you come. Anyway, what's next? All right. So she said, yeah, so we can also, the strong sperm can get through. It's kind of crazy to think about how when an egg is fertilized, the smallest cell in the human body combines with the largest cell to make a whole new being that is completely unique to itself. I didn't know that. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Smallest and largest. Really? That's incredible. There you go. I really enjoyed listening to your podcast. Thank you for sharing largest, really. That's incredible. There you go. I really enjoyed listening to your podcast. Thank you for sharing yourselves, Olivia. P.S. My husband is a long-time fan and got me hooked to your podcast
Starting point is 00:39:50 by making me listen to like three in a row while I was trapped in the car on a road trip. Nice work. I know. I like your husband. I like your husband's style, Olivia, and I like you. Thank you for your medically accurate descriptions of the strong spin.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Of course, we don't know whether any of that is true. No, it's true. We appreciate a regard. Sounds more true than us. Yeah, I can confirm it. I can confirm it. All right. What else, Claire?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Is that the show? Oh, thank you as always to Royal Collings for editing this episode. He's done it again. He's done it again. We are on Suggestible Pod on the socials, at Suggestible Pod on Instagram. Who's doing the socials? Don't they just do themselves?
Starting point is 00:40:25 No, Maisie does them. Oh, my God. Is that true? The wonderful Maisie, she does an excellent job over there. So go over there and follow us. If you like this show, please go follow us on Instagram because Maisie's doing such a great job over there. I agree.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And we really, you know, we want to get more people over there. Also, if you, as we have decided, start again, if you sometimes don't remember what we talked about. Collins, leave that in. Leave that bit for my clever mistake. No, you can't take this out because then this won't make sense. Shut up. No, don't shut up.
Starting point is 00:40:55 That's rude. As my son said the other day, it's rude to say shut up. It is rude to say shut up. It is. He'll say it's stupid, a rude word. I said, yes. Depends how you use it. There are no other ones. You can be like, you stupid a rude word? I said, yes. Depends how you use it. There are no other ones.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So you can be like, you stupid prick. That's quite rude. Anyway, sorry, go on. Great. That could be rude. What was I saying now? Oh, yes, Instagram. So Maisie does an amazing job over there,
Starting point is 00:41:16 and she always does a summary of everything we talk about too all the way over there. And she has like little memes and funny videos connected to the show. So if you like the show, please go follow us on Instagram. I like the show. I like it too. And it's just really fun. You can comment as well and like have a little chat about the things
Starting point is 00:41:31 that you've watched or not watched and make recommendations. You can send us recommendations at suggestforpod.gmail.com just like Olivia has if you too have some sperm-related facts for us. What else have you got? And want to dispute James' medical knowledge around the dude, the little sperm wearing the strongest sperm wearing the footie jacket. Better not, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Anyway, that's it. And I also do another podcast called Tons that comes out every Friday usually. And, yeah. That's it. That's it. That's it from me this week. Cool, man. That's it from you too.
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