Suggestible - Ghosted: Not a Real Movie

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.Claire Tonti LIVE at the Wesley Anne on Sunday 7th May! – Use offer code “mothersday” for $10 off tickets – https://wesleyanne.com.au/events/2023/5/7/claire-tontiThis week’s Suggestibles:02:42 Ghosted21:18 Love Me Season Two (mild spoilers 23:48 to 27:35)30:00 Do Not Ask Your Children To Strive For Extraordinary Lives34:22 Life in a Hollow by David Gullan & Suzanne Houghton38:12 Gustav and Henri by Andy Matthews & Peader ThomasSend your recommendations to [e-mail], we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You're my husband. We're married. We recommend you things to watch, read, and listen to. Yep. We're so glad you're here. We are. Thank you very much. I have a plug, James, right up top.

Oh, my God. Always with the plugs. Just one quick one. So I have a couple of shows coming up. One in Yakondanda on Saturday. It's a little regional country town. I'm really excited. Two o'clock in the afternoon. The second one is in Malwela. Two o'clock in the afternoon on the Sunday, which is like a little country town near Yarrawonga. Yes, yes, yes. And then if you live in the old Melbs or you're just around in the traps, I will be playing 3 o'clock at the Wesleyan in Northcote, my whole album.

It'll be very fancy and exciting. I've got a fabulous new blue dress I'm going to wear. I'm really looking forward to it. We've got a sweet, sweet-ass sound engineer who's going to be doing all the bells and whistles. So I'm really excited. Also, a wonderful woman called Lauren Beattie from 10 Psychology is also going to be doing a little thing. Beautiful singer-songwriter Hannah Ackfield is going to be singing with me at the Wesleyan. And Candice McLeod, who

is a singer-songwriter, is going to be performing with me at Yak and at Marwela. And that's it. That's all. That's my plugs. My goodness, that's very exciting. Well, I can't wait to stay home and look after the kids while you frolic around. Hey, you're, hey, no, you're going to come to the Wesleyan one. Oh, we'll be at that one, yeah. Yeah, you will. This is my very first time doing a tiny little tour.

So I'm very nervous actually. I don't know what it's going to be like. Will anyone show up? Will I be playing to an empty room? I don't know. It's hard to tell. Well, you know, people can go and find out how empty it is. Just poke fun at me through the window.

Yeah, correct. No, look, whoever will be there will be there and I'm just so excited to be playing music, mate. So what? That's it. Oh, and just very quickly, by the by, I also have records for sale over at my website. It's a very sweet, sweet tease in all kinds of sizes including extra,

extra, extra large and extra, extra small all the way. There's nothing in between. Nothing in between. And you can also purchase my album if you want to support a little old artist like me. You can buy it directly from my website, Hyper. It's also on Spotify. That's great, Claire.

I'm going to talk about one of my recommendations. All right. Is that enough of a plug? Good. Shameless. You've had enough fun. I've had enough fun. I had a to talk about one of my recommendations. All right. Is that enough of a plug? Good. Shameless. You've had enough fun. I've had enough fun. I had a lot of fun with that bingity bong. I watched a movie. It's called Ghosted. My God. It's directed by Dexter Fletcher. Just drinking myself a hot choccy. Dexter Fletcher, you might know from the TV show Press Gang. I thought it was from that show Dexter, where he cuts into an orange very sexily,

but slightly ominously. No, Claire, you're thinking of the that show Dexter where he cuts into an orange very sexily but slightly ominously. No, Claire, you're thinking of the TV show Dexter and then maybe the Dexter revival series they did last year. Am I right, though, that it's like weirdly sexy and also violent at the same time? It's supposed to be like a methodical serial killer cutting up kind of situation, doing a murder but of food or whatever. Dexter Fletcher also directed Rocket Man.

Rocket Man. Yeah, the Elton John biopic. I think he's a great director. So anyway, he's directed this movie. It's written by Rhett Reese, Paul Werner, Chris McKenna, and Eric Summers. So here's the synopsis. Salt of the Earth, Cole, played by Captain America's own Chris.

I'm only laughing because I really enjoy how you say synopsis. What's his name? Chris Evans, who's Captain America. You know Chris Evans. You know what? I know people love that song. I fucking hate that song. And I don't know why.

I've always hated it. I fucking hate that song. And I don't know why because I know that if you, like, look at it as a song, it's either, like, really good or there's nothing wrong with it. Like, I know that. But I fucking hate it, Claire Claire I've just always fucking hated it It's just like

You know The break into He's got better songs I actually quite like that song It's a fucking terrible song. But I like it even more now that you hate it. You might have ruined it for me now. I actually really like that Wicked song.

Is it the Wicked game? Whatever the other one is. Yeah, totally. I completely agree. I think it's because I remember there was an era when I was like really into like your rock music, you know, when I used to listen to music. And one of the songs and then like so I'd listen to a rock station and that song got like heavy rotation so you'd hear it every hour.

So maybe that's why I hate it. Yeah, that very well could be. That repetition. Hate it. Broken your brain. Hate it. To be fair, it's not the kind of song you want to hear on high rotation. It's the song I want to hear.

Yeah. That's something I want to hear. The lyrics, cadence of it, the rhythm, I hate it. Anyway, Salt of the Earth, Cole. I'm sorry. Yes, I will stop interrupting. Played by Captain America's Chris Evans. He's head over heel for the enigmatic Sadie,

who is played by Anna D'Armas. Do you know who Anna D'Armas is? No, I don't. She was the one that James Bond recently in the new James Bond had a little adventure of in. Oh, yes. Not in. In. No.

Oh, I mean he is very famous for that. Yeah, she's this one. I mean James Bond. Knives Out and whatever. Yes, I know who she is. Both great not only actors, action stars, they could do comedy, they do it all right. But here's the thing, right?

There's this shocking discovery after their chance encounter that she's actually a secret agent. And before they can decide on a second date, Cole and Sadie are swept away on an international adventure to save the world. Now, have you ever seen the movie True Lies, Claire? The movie True Lies has got Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jamie Lee Curtis, and he's actually a super secret CIA spy. And then she finds out and they drag along and there's an action movie. James Cameron directed it.

She does a sexy pole dance in it. Yes, I have. It's a great movie, right? Yes, yes, yes. It's kind of in that vein. You saw The Lost City with Channing Tatum. I loved that. And Sandy Bull.

Yes, Sandy Bull. Yeah. Good old The Bullock. So it's like in that vein where ones, you know, maybe not what you're thinking, whatever. I know The Lost City, one of them is in a spa. It's not the point. Anyways, imagine that but not as good by like a very wide margin,

by like quite a lot. It's one of those movies where you're watching it and you're like, this feels like a movie, a fake movie I should say, inside of a real movie. You ever watching a movie and they like a movie, a fake movie, I should say, inside of a real movie. You ever watching a movie and they show a trailer for a fake movie? Yeah. That's what this movie is. It's a fake movie.

It's not real. Like everything about it is bizarre and everyone's hair is weird and like the chemistry is off. There's like green screen, obvious, like there shouldn't be like and like bizarre sets that don't kind of have any kind of aesthetic to them. The chemistry's fucked. Like the two of them are just like these people. Anna Diamonds is wearing a wig the entire time

and I have excellent wig, Dar. Like a lot of people would probably think that was fine. It's very distracting. Maybe wore a bad, bad wig. Yeah, there's a lot of like people pretending to drive and have conversations. Both of these people also very funny in real life, in other movies, also in a movie they did together called Knives Out from a few years ago,

which was they had more chemistry in that even though one of them was a complete psycho. Here are some review headlines. Ghosted. Dreadfully big action star comedy deserves to be ignored. That's number one. Whoa. This is number two.

Ghosted review. At least it's shorter than The Grey Man. Now you might be like, what's The Grey Man? That's another fake movie that they made that I didn't watch, which also has Chris Evans and Ryan Gosling and somebody else probably. Again, a movie that went straight to Netflix and it's like, what is this? I haven't seen it.

I don't know. Maybe it's amazing. This is a great one. Ghosted. Say hello to the worst movie of the year. By far. So I'm confused. Are you recommending we watch this because it's so bad?

I don't even know. So it stars, as I mentioned, Adam Yarmouth, Chris Evans, Adrian Brody's in it, who I love. What? And to be fair, I have to say, I can't let this go by without pointing it out. Chris Evans is your boy. I fucking love Chris Evans.

You love Chris Evans. You would kiss him. I'd kiss him a heartbeat. You would. You love that guy. You love him so much. He went on social media or whatever this week. He was like, I made the movie Sunshine and everybody hated it.

I love it. I'm like, I love that movie, Chris Evans. That's my favorite movie. That's when I realized when they cast you as Captain America and everyone was like, boo, he was already the human torch. I was like, no! He was in the movie Sunshine. He's amazing in that movie.

And he was an amazing Captain America. He did a very good job. He did a very good job. I really ignited a Chris Evans bomb. Yeah. I just, I know we have previously discussed this. I think he's not that attractive and you lost your mind. No, I understand how you might not think he's attractive,

but I also like and maybe he'll get cancelled for, like, shooting a fucking Dajun tiger or whatever. I don't know that. But at this point he seems very nice and also, like, riddled with anxiety and just like. And he's also very talented. He's a great actor. He can also dance.

He does it all, Claire. He's a great actor. He can also dance. He does it all, Claire. He's in not another teen movie, which shouldn't be anything, but it is, and largely because what's written better than those other movies. But he's also very good at it. Question. He played knockoff Freddie Prinze Jr. And somehow he got to where he is as opposed to Freddie Prinze Jr.,

who, to be fair, likes to have a way to have a family and whatever. That's no shout on Freddie Prinze Jr. I'm a big fair, like except the way I'd have a family and whatever. That's no shout on Freddie Prinze Jr. I'm a big fan. I never saw Wing Commander. Anyway, so go on. What were you going to say? Nothing. It doesn't matter.

I was just having a little giggle in my head because I was imagining you in a shop and then Chris Evans coming in and singing you Baby Did a Bad, Bad Thing and you being like, all right, Chris Evans, I don't mind this song anymore. No, unacceptable. Unacceptable. Oh, not even Chris Evans, I don't mind this song anymore. No, unacceptable. Unacceptable. Oh, not even Chris Evans could turn you on to this song. The chemistry, I cannot stress me enough.

Stress me enough? I cannot stress you enough, Claire. It's so bad. Just squeeze you like a stress ball so you understand. Okay. It's fucking weird. Like they don't even feel like, and other people have said this, that they filmed on the same day.

Even when they touch or kiss it's like are they though it feels like it was shot in quarantine but it wasn't like it couldn't have been right it's so weird and the other thing the other thing is and look i know you'll probably disagree. She's a super spy, right? And I think she fits the role better because, like, she's done that before. She's very good at action, as he is,

because he does some action stuff in this as well. But he's such a weird fucking loser and he's got this desperate energy in addition to his character written as like really possessive and like he meets this girl and he'll text her like 100 times or whatever, like he does shit like that. And it's like he's too good looking to have turned into this. Like it wouldn't have happened to him because he would have just had people throwing themselves at him his entire life. Including James Clement.

Including me. Where he just wouldn't be his personality. You could have cast like Seth Rogen, right, because he's more of an everyman. That's not to say he's ugly. I actually think Seth Rogen is normal looking to attractive for an average person. And weirdly, I think, and I don't know,

I feel like I'm probably alone in this, Seth Rogen is more attractive than Chris Evans sure however Chris Evans is is objectively better looking I understand odd strange don't know why that is I think it's BD energy I think I completely agree and I think that's uh like uh yeah it's that it's BD energy it's how people carry themselves I know people get caught up on like height and like fitness and like I don't know. But I think a lot of it has to do with that kind of charisma. Completely agree.

And this is an energy about like a Seth Rogen. It's something you can work on if you're talking to somebody as a man of the opposite sex or not, whoever you're attracted to, and the way is you work on yourself and you talk to somebody that you're attracted to or any woman just like they're a person. We have discussed this before. There's a little secret for you. All you've got to do is talk to somebody.

You know how like you're a person? Yeah. That person is also a person. Yeah. And that's all you need to remember. What is so wild to me is that you've said this to me before like revolutionary advice. No, you would be shocked how many people do not know that.

But I know. But this is what I'm saying to you, that you've said it to me as revolutionary advice and I've gone, that's ridiculous. But then I also have spoken to you and other men and also seen other men in my life speaking to you. This is very hetero but to other women and being like, oh, that's why you're being weird. Or conversely in my, I've experienced that

where I've seen a perfectly kind of regular man talking to his friends in a regular way and then I enter the conversation. Excuse me. Excuse me. I'm a person here just wanting to be talking to like a regular person. No, and they almost freak out. Like they almost don't know, particularly if you say something like add to the conversation or say something slightly funny

or like sarcastic. It's like they, not all men obviously, but some do. They freak out. They're like, you're not supposed to talk like that. And how do I talk to you? I don't know. And the answer is I don't know. And the answer is you don't.

You walk away. No, but it is. It's just that really strange thing. I even, yeah, I just wonder about that. It is still funny to me sometimes that you get people who say, and particularly with my album. Oh, my God. I know I can't stop talking about it.

I wonder if Amanda would want to talk to you. No, but because it's women's stories, right, my God, Kate. I know, I can't stop talking about it. No wonder men don't want to talk to you. No, but because it's women's stories, right, the storytelling, like I have had people, men particularly, say to me things like, I had never thought about my mother as a person before, which is wild to me. Yeah. But I also get that, I guess, as a kid. Also sometimes people like they hide that aspect of themselves from their kids or others or whatever.

I agree, yeah. But it is just an interesting thing, isn't it? Why do men think that? I think it's the conditionings of it. I mean, look, you've got all these absolutely unfuckable dorks giving these like- Oh, God, that's very harsh. Giving this like- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're not, you've cut me off here. Oh, sorry. I'm talking about the guys who sell this kind of advice to people who, it's practice. Like if you want to talk to somebody, it's practice. Like, and you're going to like fail.

And also some people, they don't fucking like you. And it's got nothing to do with you. It's their preference. You know what I mean? Yeah. And you just keep going. That's just part of it. Not everybody is going to like you or respond to you in the way

that you want them to and that's fine. But it's literally just talk to people like people. But you've got people being like you say this line and you treat yourself as a – women are high value assets and you know what I mean? If they go like this and then you go like this and you say this and then – and even if you somehow manage to trick a woman into bed, which can be done, I wouldn't know. But if you did, you're not, what are you getting out of that?

Nothing. Like they're just going to figure out it anyway, you know what I mean? That you're like this and that you've done this thing. So you may as well just be like the genuine nice version of yourself, you know? These people, like they, your jordan peterson's and whoever the fuck else like lunatics just like again unfuckable dorks miserable like from birth do not listen to them is my point dating gurus whatever they usually like crossed over with crypto bros. Awful. Stay away from them.

I'm not saying I have all the answers, but I know more than them. Great. That's the quote of the day. That's the show title. Don't put that as a show title, colleagues. Look, what I do think is very, very valuable is the thing that you said about women just being people and anyone you're attracted to, whoever you are, also going into an initiation of that vibe, A, with the idea that anything that happens needs to be consensual and checking in with that person every step of the way. There's actually nothing wrong with doing that at all

and it's much better to verbally actually check the whole way through. So that's one thing. The other thing I would say obviously is that you're in there to be curious about the other person as well. Absolutely, yeah. And so listening and asking interested questions and then responding to the answer they give you with another question is so valuable. You might be surprised.

Yeah. No, you're right. And also like obviously that goes both ways. If the other person is just talking about themselves the entire time, you can just be like, oh, well, this isn't for me necessarily. Correct, exactly. That's not strictly a men thing. No, it's not.

It's definitely not. It's just a relationship thing. But it's something to be aware of and it's also, I think, more interesting than talking about yourself. The whole time. Yeah, because I think I have experienced this and I know girlfriends of mine have too. And this is not a gender thing, it's just, you know, the dating world.

Sometimes people go into a date or into meeting someone with the idea that what they need to do is impress that person and so they go in with this energy of like these are all the things that I can do and this is how I am and this is who I think I should be and this is like the cool stuff I do and I'm awesome and yeah. And actually that kind of does the opposite a lot of the time. I'm sure some people are into that but that actually does the opposite. I agree.

What you should be going into any kind of situation is, yeah, with that genuine curiosity about the other person and then you hope that then they reciprocate that. It's also going to come up, like if you've got something that you're proud of and you want to talk about. Yeah. It will come up. Exactly.

But, you know, but going in just like that is, I think, from my perspective, quite unattractive. Just make sure you tell everybody how much money you have. That's important. That's number one. That's rule number one. The other thing that I love, and we've said this on the show before, you've said to me in the past, which is another thing that just totally

blew my mind and made me depressed but also I think is truthful, you said women don't owe you anything. Nope. And that, to me, I was like, of course they don't bloody owe you anything. What would they owe you? They're just a person living their life, walking around. It's like if you buy somebody a drink or whatever and they accept. They don't have to talk to you.

No. I mean, sure, it would be nice, I guess, you know, if they accepted a drink and, you know, they talked to you for it. But they don't have to and they shouldn't have to. No. And that's okay. I mean, would it be a shitty thing to do if somebody, you bought them a drink and then they just turned around and left?

Yeah, that would sting, obviously. But also. But they don't have to, though. Like, they can do whatever they want. It's not that these things aren't conditional is what I'm saying. Correct. Exactly. Exactly.

Just the same as taking someone on a date and then that guarantees you nothing other than going on the date with them. Yep. All of that stuff. Anyway, I think that's really wild and interesting. And I don't know why we got to this point from Chris Evans. Oh, the chemistry with Chris Evans. I guess what I'm saying is at the end of the day, it's on Apple Plus.

It's a streaming exclusive Apple Plus movie. What's it called? Ghosted. It's called Ghosted. There's just like a breezy nothingness to it. Interesting. You know, like I don't believe in the supernatural, but you know if you were like standing in like a corridor

and a ghost like moved through you and you felt like oh it's like that but a movie so you're like i think i think i just watched a movie i don't want to watch this now just for you you might like it like again like i should completely inoffensive breezy there's some okay to terrible action nothing looks real there's a sex scene where they're entirely under the sheet the entire time. Very weird movie. Very weird movie that obviously doesn't exist. Can we move on now?

It's been 20 minutes. It's also not a real movie. Okay, can we move on? I just want to say if you go to look for this movie, it won't be there. I made it up. It's not real. Are you serious?

No, I'm joking. It's real. It's a real movie. But maybe it's not. I would really. Maybe I did make it up. Knowing you, I would not be surprised. Anyway.

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Moving right along from the movie that is a movie. Interesting. I don't know. I really liked, what did he direct? Knives Out? No. Ryan Johnson. Evans.

He directed Rocketman. Rocketman. That's right. He also directed Eddie the Eagle. I really liked that. I liked both of those. Which is awesome. They're excellent.

Yeah. All right. I have a fun, well, yes, fun. Yes, fun recommendation. We saw him in London once in a market. We did. I don't really know who he is. No, I don't. I don't know.

But, yeah. Go on. No, I don't remember. I know you don't. I pointed him out and you went, I don't know. That's what I remember about that. I was too busy living out my Notting Hill dreams. Sure.

All right. So my recommendation is the season two of a show called Love Me. Love Me? Love Me. Love you. Love everybody. No, of a show called Love Me. Love Me? Love Me, love you, love everybody. No, it's just called Love Me. It is an excellent Australian drama. I know you're all sceptical about Australian drama. No, this one is good from what I've seen of it.

It's really good. It's similar to if you have watched the show Offspring. I haven't. It's got a similar vibe to that. It's like slightly on the road of like A Secret Life of Us, but I'd say it's more sophisticated and probably a bit more middle class, if I want a better word. So the basic premise is that in Melbourne, three family members of different ages of life and stages experience

love, loss, and the complexity of family relationships. So really it opens in season one with this family and the matriarch of the family dies very suddenly. I know she's had some complications and passes away and so then her kids and her husband are kind of left to unravel and experience the grief and loss while also kind of dealing with heartbreak and... Is she okay? Well, no, she's dead, so probably...

Does she make it? No, she doesn she's dead. Does she make it? No, she doesn't make it. She's dead. What is happening? Let me continue my. Anyway. Did you make it to heaven? You're so annoying.

Hugo Weaving plays her bereaved husband. Love Hugo Weaving. I know. He's really excellent in this as well. He's really endearing. He's kind of like bumbling and naive. He's just completely lost without her. She was a really charismatic, intense, kind of moody, massive presence.

And he was very caring and sort of funny. She comes and goes a little. Yeah, she sort of comes as memories and also sometimes she talks to him. Like he'll be sitting in the car by himself and she'll appear. Hello. Hello, just like that. Hello, Huguenot. The main character in this, though, is his daughter.

Her name's Clara Matheson. It's played by Bojana Novakovic. Now, she is excellent. She's really good. Yeah, she's really good. She is a doctor in a hospital and she really plays the idea of that sort of career-minded, very single-focused kind of person who is also at that point in her life where she wants to have a baby.

She's in obstetrics herself and she's looking for love but just can't find that right person. But she has very little tolerance for anyone really and very little time to date as well. And she's very blunt, which is kind of great to follow. So there is quite a lot of comedy in it as well. What I love about season two, so season one was excellent. What I love about season two is that it continues

to follow the love story, the kind of like will they, won't they, that happened in the first season with the character Peter, who's a model, and they kind of live in the same apartment building. Anyway, this is a little spoiler in season one. They finally get together. And what's interesting then about season two is that they explore their journey to try and have a baby. And what I've heard from friends who've experienced infertility is it's a really

close and honest look at what happens to a couple when they experience something like that. And in this case, these are some spoilers, but Peter turns out that he is infertile and so she is fine but he isn't. And what that does to their relationship over time, how he handles it, how she handles it, how the people around them handle it, the kind of grief around that. He already has a son with someone else. time, how he handles it, how she handles it, how the people around them handle it, the kind of grief around that. He already has a son with someone else.

Who's older as well, yeah. Yeah. And that is kind of then brought into light because he's not sure then if his son is really his son. And so there's all this complexity around should he get genetic testing done. And there's just, yeah, the relationships start to unravel from there. At the same time, her youngest brother, whose name is Aaron, played by William Lotta, has a baby with a previous ex-girlfriend

and so she's also watching him grapple with new parenthood in this sort of interesting way. Right. And Hugo Weaving's character just steps in all the time as his beautiful dad who just really adores his kids and wants the best for them and he's very sort of naive and sweet and kind. It's very un-Hugo Weaving as you might have seen him

in Lord of the Rings or The Matrix, for example. Yeah, but it's very convincing as well. Oh, he's very good. Yeah, and actually. He's done a lot of what people wouldn't probably know in the US or England as well, but he's done a lot of like really good indie Australian films. He has, hasn't he? Like a bunch of them.

Yeah. He makes really interesting choices, I think, as an actor. And one of the standouts in this show actually is his new girlfriend, Anita, who's played by Heather Mitchell. And what I love about their relationship, they meet on a cruise that he'd booked with his wife who died. Right. And she's really sexy, even though she's not even, I should say, but she's in, I'd say, 60s, late 60s. And they do a really good job of showing sexual desire and relationships in older

people. And the way that she's a really free kind of person and draws him in to her world and kind of shows him about art and culture and a different way of being. And she's so light as a person. And he was in a previous relationship with someone who was obviously very intense. And so she kind of shows him a different way of being. And there's just so much joy in that and that's quite an interesting trajectory to follow. And season two continues their relationship. They get married and that's kind of interesting to see how that relationship unfolds. And her brother-in-law comes in.

Yeah, there's some complexity around there too. So it's just great. I loved it. Silly Piccola is a minor character in it too. Yeah, she's a friend that works at the hospital with Clara and she actually directs an episode as well. Does she? Yeah, yeah.

She's a great Australian comedic and acting and directing talent. Correct. I did not know. She's also in Utopia, which is a really excellent TV show and also in Beautiful Lies, which is one of my favourite Australian dramas, who also coincidentally that movie stars the wonderful Redhead from Succession played by. Oh, fucking Sarah Snook.

Yeah, she's just bloody great. That's a very dark show. Yeah, it is a very dark show but it's very well done. Anyway, all that is to say love me. It's on Binge. It's really worth watching. Both seasons are really great. Would you recommend it over the movie Ghosted? I don't know. on Binge. It's really worth watching. Both seasons are really great. And they're all up there now.

Would you recommend it over the movie Ghosted? I don't know. You really sold me with the movie Ghosted. A lot of people don't know that. I feel like that would be a fun time for all. I agree. Yeah. So yeah, love me. I should say as well, just very quickly, it's also directed by Emma Freeman and she's a really excellent director. Has done a really great job. I love that name.

Yeah. It's also the writing team is also amazing. Josephine Bornabush, Alison Bell who wrote The Letdown or starred in The Letdown. Sorry, I should say not wrote, starred in it. Adele Vucco, Leon Ford and Blake Ashford. And again, I think you can just tell when there's like an even split of genders or more women in a writing team, the women characters just are better.

They just talk more the way that women actually talk. It's just, it's refreshing to see, I think. So, yeah. Cool. Do you remember, because that actress you're talking about, the lead actress whose name I can't remember. Bojana Novakovic. Yeah.

She's, she was in a show in 2003 called Marking Time, which was about, it was just like a three-minute stream. Yeah. And it's got Matthew Led, what's his name? He's from, he's the handsome guy from Offspring. The Doctor. Yeah, Patrick. Yes.

And it's got Abe Forsyth and whatever. And it's just, it's like this, it's about a small town in Australia and it's got like an, can't remember it's got an immigration center or there's a number of like immigrants who have come over from like war-torn countries in the middle east and then september 11 happens and it's just i remember it being really good maybe it's terrible but i remember being like really in an era where like the world some of the world was going to war with the middle East. This was like this kind of really insightful like look at immigration and refugees like from a perspective that you wouldn't necessarily see.

And just the idea of like sitting in a small Australian town. It's like 20 years old, that show. Anyway, the lead guy in that is now going to direct the new Robocop movie. Apparently. What? If that happens. That's so interesting. That was a really, really great show.

It was also written by John Doyle, you might know from Roy and HG. Oh. Yeah. Do you remember Roy and HG? Or their show before that club buggery? They did The Games, which was their Olympic Games coverage. I don't know if you remember that. Of course I remember that.

Yeah. Anyway. I absolutely do. You're not going to believe this, Claire. I don't think I will. You're going to lose your shit. I'm losing it. Yeah. Anyway. I absolutely do. You're not going to believe this, Claire. I don't think I will. You're going to lose your shit. I'm losing it. No, listen.

I have brought you on this very day a poem. Stop it. Yes. Today of all days. Yep. Today of this moment in this time you have brought me a poem. Is it one that I've already read out? I don't know.

Let's find out. I just want to confirm the name of it. Oh, okay. Here he goes while he frantically Googles a poem. So it's from the book. It's by William Martin. It's from the book The Parenting's Tale Teaching Ancient Advice for Modern Parents.

Ooh, this sounds right up my alley, James. I haven't read the book, but I have read this poem. Okay. This book is from the year 1999. Oh, many, many years ago. Which was also the year that The Matrix came out, which I would highly recommend if you haven't seen it. Okay, it's called Do Not Ask Your Children about The Matrix.

Let them experience it in cinemas if you can. No, it's called Do Not Ask Your Children. I feel like I'm bad at reading poetry because I'm not earnest enough and I'm bad at reading. You're not bad at reading. Which is terrible because I was a teacher so I don't know how. You just have to sit in your feelings. All right, I'll sit in my feelings.

The problem with you and just before you read this. It's very angry down here. I don't like it. The problem with you and I know you very, very well. We've been together a very long time. Sure. I still don't know when you're being sincere. Just assume that I'm not. It's very well. We've been together a very long time. Sure. I still don't know when you're being sincere. Just assume that I'm not. It's very unclean. Here we go. Stop me if you read this to me once.

Do not ask your children to strive for extraordinary lives. Such striving may seem admirable, but it is the way of foolishness. Help them instead to find the wonder and the marvel of an ordinary life. Show them the joy of tasting tomatoes, apples, and pears. Help them instead to find the wonder and the marvel of an ordinary life. Show them the joy of tasting tomatoes, apples and pears. Show them how to cry when pets and people die. Show them the infinite pleasure in the touch of a hand and make the ordinary come alive for them. The extraordinary will take care of itself. Many blessings, Claire.

Have you read that? No, I have not. That got me in the feels. Finally. Good job. That's all I wanted. That was really beautiful. It's not as good as the one that I read back to you.

That I'd already recommended. That you already recommended. Good bones. I think it's also a good message of like, hey, man, look at this fruit or whatever. Do you know what it reminds me of? It reminds me of About Time. You know that montage, that movie About Time?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and at the end there's. Great movie. It's such a good movie. But at the end the kind of wrap up of it all is that idea they play that song, there's gold in them hills. Yes. And he talks about because in that movie the main character can time travel

back and forth and what he learns in all of that in the end is just to take the joy in those really ordinary moments. That's right, because even though he can time travel, something, a family, I don't know. That was so insightful. I mean, I would have killed Hitler but whatever. Do you know what I mean though? I think it's that saying that there's extraordinary in the ordinary.

Absolutely there is. And it's also like it's very naive and everybody said this all the time and we know. But when you watch a kid experience something, then, yeah, then it's like, oh, yeah, just watching a kid dance, watching a kid's dance. I love it. I know.

It's so great. Do you know what? Also playing hide and seek in the pool over the weekend. Hide in the pool. I don't know. There's nowhere to hide in the pool. So what she did was she climbed into the smallest space she could, which is just the corner of the pool, like a bit of the edge was rounded.

Yeah. And she just went into the crack of it. And then she was just standing there and then she could see me and she would turn her eyes all the way to the side so that like it would almost be like I couldn't quite see her. So she just ended up looking at me like this. Yeah. Which you can't see because it's an audio medium, but it just was the most hilarious thing because I could be like,

where are you? And she would just look at me through the crack corner of her eye with her eyes really wide and it just made me endlessly laugh. And then someone gave her a kickboard so she just like slid the kickboard in front of her face. So funny. That's great. I know.

So, yeah, I agree. That was beautiful. Well done and beautifully read, I will say, sincerely. Well, I wasn't being sarcastic but whatever. What have you got, Claire? Ooh, all right. So should I do my next recommendation or, but whatever. What have you got, Claire? Ooh, all right. So should I do my next recommendation or should I save it for next week? How much time have we done?

35 minutes. We can save it, whatever you want. All right. No, I'll talk about it now. Okay. Well, that means you'll have to do find something else for next week. Yeah, but that's all right. You're always scrabbling around.

I am scrabbling at the moment. Like a rat in the dark. Scrabbling. Well, this is a beautiful picture book. It's called Life in a Hollow. It's written by a primary school teacher called David Gullen, illustrated by Susan Horton. Did your mum bring this back from something?

My brother did, actually. Your brother did, that's right. He's a friend of my brother's. That's so cool. I know, it's really cool and it's published by the CSIRO, which I would also recommend. They're an amazing organisation of scientists based in Australia. They also make nuclear weapons.

What? No, that's not true. Jesus. I thought they were all into climate change. You're so funny and hilarious. They are changing the climate with bloody nuclear weapons, mate. Anyway, go on. Anyway, it's just a really beautiful look at hollow trees.

Yeah. And so the whole idea is. Like what's in this one? Nothing. What's in this one? Well, you know how much I love hollow. You know how much I love trees. So it's really just it starts as a crack in a tree

and little skinks start to live in it, which are like little lizards that we have here. And then over time the cracks get bigger and bigger and become a hollow and each time they become a new home for another animal, which I think is just really, it sounds super simple, but it's just a really beautiful little story and a really beautiful reminder of how important old trees are. Yeah.

And it's also just a lovely look at our Australian animals. And so there's bats that move in and then after that there's these beautiful rosellas that move into the hollow and then slowly possums go in to live there. And so I just, I think it's just beautifully done. And I think, as it says at the back of the book, that is happening, that process is happening all over the place, everywhere we go. And then the idea of then taking your kids after you read the story to walk

through the bush and look for hollows and peer into them and see who might be living in there and then talking about why trees and leaving those old trees are so important because they're homes for animals. It's very simple. But I really loved it. Isn't that fascinating that like so much of the environment is creatures use, they need old trees. You don't just like, oh, it's dead, let's get rid of it or whatever.

Like every part of the environment has a purpose when we don't mess around with it. Correct. Exactly. We could go down a really depressing rabbit hole. However, this beautiful picture book is excellent. Yeah, so if you're after a really good – It's really – yeah, I love the look of it.

It reminds me of like a book, like an Australian storybook you'd read in like the 80s and 90s. Yeah, it does. It's got like a – it's that kind of art style because I feel like there's like eras of art and we're in, you know – not that I hate the era that we're in now, not at all, but I just love that it kind of feels like of a different time. Yeah. And I can't stress enough, not in a bad way, in a good way.

No, it's just really beautifully done. Yeah. So Susan Horton does an amazing job with the illustrations and David Garland, you can tell he's a primary school teacher because he understands the way to write a book for kids and the concept's really simple. Good on him for like getting that published as well because that's very difficult. I know.

It's amazing. Yeah, so Life in a Hollow, if you're looking for a book, particularly if you're looking for an Australian book, you should definitely check it out. You can find them at the CSIRO website. So many kids book are like, I know like a lot of Australian celebrities or comedians, they just write like these slapdash terrible. And it's always like gross McPoo ear or something like that.

Oh, that gross McPoo ear series. Yeah, but you know what I mean. There's a bunch of them like that. Yeah, yeah. And I've never tried to publish anything, so what would I know about? But I know it's difficult for like to get anything published and just the fact that he got that done and it's good is like it's great. It's really cool.

I agree. Yeah. Yeah. There are exceptions to that obviously. There are. There are some really. Andy. Andy Matthews.

Oh, that book's great. But he's a professional writer as well. Well, that's true. That's the other part of it. I mean I've talked about that. I've got to get his second book. They're so good, those books. Our kids love them too. I'm going to get that because he said he was going to send it to me and I'm like, no, I'm going to buy it. And he goes, mean, I've talked about them. I've got to get his second book. They're so good, those books. Our kids love them too.

I'm going to get that because he said he was going to send it to me and I'm like, no, I'm going to buy it. And he goes, no, I'm going to send you one. But he hasn't sent it to me so I will just go and buy it. Read it. It's called Gustav and Henry. There's two of them. They're so good.

They're great. They're really good. And on that, I have a little email to read out. Well, before you do that, Claire, hold your bloody horses. I'm holding them. That was me holding them. I hate horses, Claire. I have a review and people can review the show. They can do it in app. What? They can use the app of their choice. What? And if you do

a five-star review, I will read it out. Correct. And that is a guarantee. Holy moly. Unless it's weird. Yeah, don't be too weird. But most people, I would say all. Yeah. I think I've read out probably every review and if I've missed one, it's an accident. Anyway, don't be too weird. But most people, I would say all. Yeah. I think I've read out probably every review, and if I've missed one, it's an accident. Anyway, this one's from Wolfwood9576.

Watch this be the weirdest fucking thing I've ever read. Here we go. I haven't read it yet, but I'm going to read it now. Less successful, just as blissful. Oh, there we go. Maybe it's all right. After finding the weekly planet in pandemic, I'm excited to have this now

that I'm almost caught up. It gave me Die, which is now one of my favorite comic books, and Next Game I'll buy, and a number of good recipes. It's sad that these two will never find the beauty in Nolan Rogers' Final Space because it's been buried by HBO, but it's been fascinating hearing both reactions. Sorry, keep up the great pod. Thank you.

Final Space, yeah, I did watch a bunch of Final Space and then they got rid of it. That sounds hard and sad. I'm sorry for you. Your life is a series of challenges, as I say. No, it is on Netflix, yeah. I should finish that. Anyway, what have you got in terms of?

Oh, a little review. Well, I don't remember. I don't remember. I started getting scared. My brain just. Do you remember? The 21st night of September. Baby did a bad, bad thing.

No, so last week I talked about Laura Davis, the comedian, how she had a story about pretending to lose her engagement ring. She was secretly just looking at the shiny, shiny rocks in the moonlight. And so then this poor woman went looking for this engagement ring for ages. Anyway, connected important context for this email from Jacob McCrory. Hi, Claire and James Sunday. I hope you're both doing well. I am a long time listener of the Weekly Planet and I'm working my way through suggestible catalog on my long drives from university to my home in a different state. I was listening to the pod and when Claire was

talking about Laura Davis's engagement ring story and and James's His Iron Giants DVD story, it was a coincidence that, unfortunately, I got caught in a similar lie earlier that day. Oh no! In my economics class, my professor was using the Titanic as a metaphor for the economy or something. And he called on me and asked if I'd seen the movie, which I immediately lied and said yes. Then he asked me what happened right before it hit the iceberg and when I hesitated he said, you haven't seen the movie. And about 20 pairs of eyes darted straight to me with some laughter, of course.

I don't know why I lied about seeing a movie that came out before I was born, but I just had to and unfortunately I got caught. Damn, you're wrong. No, Jake. Thank you two for such a wonderful podcast each week. Best, Jake from Colorado. I mean, at that point you've got to double down. Yeah.

You know what I mean? You've got to be like, you know what, maybe you haven't seen the movie. Also, that is so crazy that it came out before he was born. It's not that crazy. He was born in 1997. Yeah, I know. He's an adult. I know.

That's what I mean. Oh, my God. I saw that movie by myself in the theatres with money that I earned. Yeah, I mean, if he was born in, say, 1998, probably later, he'd be like 25 years old. Far out. Yeah, but he's probably younger if he's doing college stuff or not. Some people go later and that's cool, I think.

That is cool. I will also say there's a PS here. Oh, yeah. Claire, my mum, who has two grown children and doesn't listen to music very often instantaneously cried when I sent herself, which is a song from my album. Oh, damn.

I don't know if you knew that I wrote an album. That's crazy that she hated it that much. So annoying. And can I continue? Yeah, I'm just laughing at the thing I said about you. It was very funny. I appreciate that. It's good that you're laughing at the thing I said about you. It was very funny. I appreciate that. It's good that you're laughing at my art.

That's fine. And she said she was able to relate a lot to it. So thank you for providing mothers and people with beautiful music that they can resonate with. Damn. Aw, mate. So much. What a delightful email.

I know. With many different facets. What a legend, Jake, you are. Thank you so much. Yeah, man. Enjoy your usefulness. Yeah, man. Enjoy your youthfulness. Yeah, man. You should.

People are allowed to enjoy their youthfulness, Claire. I know. I was being sincere. No, you weren't. What? You said it like a bit of spite, like enjoy your youthfulness. I'm just having one of those days where I'm feeling a little old. But as I said, age is wisdom.

Be grateful for the aging. And age. Also. It's but a number. It's but a number. A very high number for you in particular. Rude. Anyway, we've been to just a podcast.

Thank you for listening. Thank you as always to Royal Collings for editing this week's episode. Thank you to Maisie for doing our social media. If you're in Melbourne and you want to come down to the Wesleyan on Sunday the 7th of May, bloody love you to come along and listen to some good old-fashioned tunes. Next week I'm going to break down all my healthy snacks that I eat. Not a joke.

I'm really going to do it. Do we want people to keep listening? Yeah, man. I don't think that that is a very good encouragement. It's that time of year where I get in the best shape that I can and then I don't take my shirt off. That's what happens. For months.

And then you just, it gets to summer and you've maintained. No, I haven't. No, that's what I mean. You've maintained your bod now. So like you get it really great. So then by the time you've had your Christmas pud. It's all over. It's like, to be fair, listeners, he says this.

He looks the same. He looks the same. He's not. I could show you comparison photos, Claire, he says this, he looks the same. He looks the same. He's not. I could show you comparison photos, Claire, and I will after this podcast. Anyway, it's all aesthetics, which are not important. It's what's on the inside that counts. It's about strength also, Claire. It's about functionality.

I thought it was about teaching kids how to eat apple or something. What? Like the poem. I forgot the poem. Forget about the poem. Forget about it. I found it as a joke. It's not real. No, it's. Forget about the poem. Forget about it. I found it as a joke. It's not real.

No, it's real. Okay, goodbye. Goodbye. Also, the movie Ghosted. It's actually not real. What? I don't know. People have to Google it, is it?

Check it out, maybe. Let me show you a poster. Right. I thought you said it wasn't real. Can I turn this podcast off yet? No, you can't just yet. What is happening? Here's the thing.

All right, here we go. Actually, I was saving this to the end. I have this poster. Yes. I want you to tell me whether I made this or it's a real poster. With a thumbnail. Yeah. Is that real or did I make that?

You tell me. Is it real? Look at it. Is it real? Yes, listeners. I don't understand it. Is it real? Yes, it is Is it real? Listeners, I don't understand it. Is it real? Yes, it is real.

It's a real movie? I think it is. Because of the context you've given me, that is real. Yeah, but maybe I made it all up. Oh, God, I don't even know now. Is it real? Why is it so blurry in the background? Is it real?

Yes. That's my answer. I've already given you my answer. Why do you just keep asking the same question? You're going to have to Google it to find out. It's everybody else who doesn't know. Goodbye. Excellent. All right. See you next week. Bye. Bye. with top-rated drivers. And you can track every trip on the live map in the Uber app. Uber Teen Accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today.

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