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Episode Date: April 2, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:34 I'm Claire, by the way. This is Suggestible Pod. We recommend you things to watch and listen to. I'm not going to call you that. Coming at you high energy. We don't have any Nick Mason today in the episode. No, but that's, but I'm sure we'll see an increase in numbers regardless because you know, you know what he's like, Claire, you know what he's about. He's so bloody popular though, mate. Actually, I didn't check the numbers. What
Starting point is 00:00:55 were the numbers last week? I don't know. I didn't check either. Let's assume bad. All right. So we suggest things, don't we? Or did you already say that? I did. I did. I did. And never has there been a better time for you to get things suggested to you to watch, read and listen to, considering that we're all in our houses. Well, or should be in our houses. Or should be in our houses. Hope you're not still on spring break or if one of those boomers just wandering around the centre of town waiting to die. We really shouldn't be making jokes because it's a very serious time.
Starting point is 00:01:28 You're right, Claire. But if we can't laugh at all the people who will die from this disease, what can we laugh at? No, we're not making jokes. Okay, sorry. Don't make jokes. However, you'll be right out there. Yeah, maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Who knows? Anyway, let's just recommend you some stuff to make you feel happy. Should I start or do you want to start? Just before we start, I need to confess something. Okay. I love a confession. I sang Sweet Caroline on my Instagram account. This sounds less like a confession and more like a humble brag, Claire.
Starting point is 00:01:59 No, it was bad. Get out of here with that. I listened back to it. It wasn't supposed to be good. Because I'm not good at guitar, but I'm trying to pick up hobbies, seeing as they're stuck in isolation, and I've stared at that bloody guitar forever. And so I've learnt a new song on it, and I thought people should know
Starting point is 00:02:16 that Sweet Caroline, you can play it in three and a half chords. Oh, my goodness. Neil Diamond, you a big fan? Well, I like Sweet Caroline. So yeah. You don't like the one that goes, good lord! I listened to a lot of Neil Diamond growing up because my parents were big fans. They also really loved those Irish
Starting point is 00:02:35 women that sing. What are they called? The Gaelic women or whatever. Yeah, they're always like, ooh, daddy boy! In a like giant dress. Singing in front of a fake castle. But, like, in an enormous stadium with, like, a million people in there. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And I'm like, who's this for? Your parents. Who are the fans of this? Your parents, your mum and dad love them. I think part of it is also they're, like, they're very good-looking Irish ladies. So I think that's part of it. I think that's, like, there's a few Irish men. Your dad listens to our show i don't care so i think there's a bit of like you know wives will like it because they love
Starting point is 00:03:10 the music and husbands like yeah i also like this i mainly just like the cleavage there is quite a lot of cleavage that's all i'm saying you've called your dad out just google cleavage you don't need bloody isolation mate you don't need to take him down even further. Absolutely, I do. All right, off to the starting of the Suggestibles. Yeah, speaking of isolation and despair, I watched an incredibly bleak thing last night. It's a new movie to stream. Oh, that's a new thing for you?
Starting point is 00:03:37 But I think it helped me in the log run. It's called Vivarium and it's the director Loken Finnegan. Post-apocalyptic. Zombies. Robots. AI. It stars Imogen Poots and Jesse Eisenberg, who you may know as young and upcoming actors.
Starting point is 00:03:53 That's probably not true. I think they were both in their 30s. So anyway, they're looking for a home because they want to buy houses. A lot of millennials do. You know what I mean? They want to get into that market while you can. They either want to buy a house or in Australia eat avocado on toast. Oh, my God. You can't do both.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You've got to pick one or the other. Do you remember the time when people were just in uproar about millennials being forced not to eat brunch so they could buy a house? Those things don't even correlate. If you do crunch the numbers, the amount of avocado toast you would not have to eat. I don't know the numbers, but it's not conceivable in a lifetime that if you save the $3 maybe twice a week, it doesn't actually factor in at all.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You have to make like grand sweeping kind of financial decisions or just come into a lot of money. So anyway, whatever. Or get free university education. Yeah, exactly. So that comes from a lot of people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Just pull yourself up. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Anyway. Okay, tell us about your crap, desolate thing that you love. Everything you watch, you are always watching stuff that's like set in a bleak landscape. Yeah, this was, I did not like this at all, but it's a good movie. Like I liked it, but it's like I did not enjoy watching that kind of thing. So they go to a very odd real estate agent and he leads them to, he's a very odd man. It's like, what's wrong with this guy?
Starting point is 00:05:11 And he leads them to a really idyllic neighborhood, but not idyllic in a good way. Every house is literally exactly the same. The sky is really uniform in terms of like the way that it looks. And then he shows them around the house and then he disappears. And then they go, okay, I guess we'll just leave. So they leave, but they can't get out of this neighbourhood. It looks exactly the same no matter where they go.
Starting point is 00:05:35 This is the worst thing to be watching at the moment. I know. So they're driving around and around until eventually they run out of petrol. But every time they kind of keep turning corners, they end up back at this house, this particular house that they've been shown. There's no one there, by the way. There's no one in the neighborhood. It's just them.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And so they're stuck in this place. They don't know why they're there. And then somebody, I won't go any further than this, but somebody dumps a baby on the doorstep and says, you need to raise this baby. And it's really claustrophobic and, and just upsetting and disturbing. And you feel like you're in it, like the sense of isolation and slowly kind of going mad.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And like, what is kind of going on? You feel like you're in it. Like it really, and it's really kind of trippy, but, and it's like kind of a mystery, but it's not,
Starting point is 00:06:24 it won't give you the answers that you're kind of looking for but yeah i didn't like it but it was good no i'm legitimately i'm not making fun of you can you tell me why you chose to watch because also off the back of that i'm like oh at least i'm not these two people like because they're stuck in a house but it's like this weirdly uniformed i guess for like lack of a better word, perfect house. You know that we are going to be given a baby. Well, like a baby will be dragged, kicked and screaming out of me. Yeah, it's not just the baby that's upsetting.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It's like the things that kind of happen as a result of this baby. Well, they're trapped in a house. From the opening of this movie, which again, I won't spoil, because I feel like that kind of gives away where it ends up going. Oh, okay. And I just, I enjoy, I will never watch it again, but I did enjoy it. I found it really engrossing. So what's it called?
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's called Vivarium. And where can you find it? What did I, I think I streamed off Prime, but I had to go through a VPN because it wasn't. Oh, like ExpressVPN. ExpressVPN, our sponsor from last week. Correct. Our Royal Collings will put a link to the link underneath. Oh, let's not do any free publicity here, Claire.
Starting point is 00:07:28 If you would like to, please help the show. But that's what I've happened to do for a lot of movies because they're like, it's released on streaming. Yeah, everywhere else but here for some reason. So that's what I've been doing. I am genuinely curious though, why are you drawn to such dark subject matter? Because it's compelling and it's also, at the end of the day, that's not our particular situation.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So are you, because I can't do this. Like I have always been, as a kid as well, we never watched TV unless we were seriously watching it. Like we weren't ever a family that just had it on the background. And I find TV so absorbing and so emotionally like draining or I just take on board the characters. And sometimes if I watch a show for a long enough time, I can start talking like some of the characters in the TV.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It's just, it's part of my personality. I don't know why I do it, but that's what happens. And so to me, when I, if I had to watch something like that, I would go insane. Like I can't cope with it. So is it that you're able to distance yourself and like look at it as a piece of art? I can separate myself from it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And like to be fair, I did have like weird dreams. I kind of related to this thing. But again, I can look at this and go, well, this is not a real thing. This is obviously a fake situation. Is that how you're able to watch all those terrible horror films? You don't really watch horror, you know, like Westworld and those kind of shows. Yeah, I can kind of switch off from things, yeah. So I would say, yeah, if you kind of want something upsetting.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And there's some very kind of disturbing moments. Not like horror stuff. It was such glee. This is like that time you ruined Christmas by telling me about that Tony Collette movie where they all end up in a snow globe stalked by a giant monster and I thought it was going to be like a happy family Christmas movie. Yeah, the Krampus. Get into it.
Starting point is 00:09:18 They're very different people. All those Santa's toys that come in, the Krampus' toys, they're all filled with meat. They're like horrible creatures under there. Anyway, what do you want to recommend? Is it more disturbing than Okja? Last question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Way more. Yeah. All right. I'm not watching that. But good on you for choosing more bleak shit to watch in your downtime. My second one is less bleak, but thank you. All right. I'm seriously doubting that.
Starting point is 00:09:41 All right. So I thought I would recommend a TV show quickly. I'm sneakily worried I've already recommended it, but I bloody love it, so I'm just going to go ahead. Sure. I couldn't find it. So it's called The Bletchley Circle and it's an older one. It's been around for quite a while.
Starting point is 00:09:57 2014. Yeah, yeah. It's really good though. It's a television mystery drama miniseries set in 1952 to 53 about four women who worked as codebreakers at Belletchley Park to satisfy with the officials' failure to investigate complex crimes. So it kind of is set seven years later because Belletchley Park, for anyone who doesn't know, was kind of the English base
Starting point is 00:10:20 for the Allied forces when they were deciphering codes. Right, okay. And what I find really interesting is this giant mansion, right, and by January 1945 in World War II, it was the peak of the code-breaking efforts. Nearly 10,000 personnel were working there at this mansion just breaking codes and trying to decipher German messaging, and about three-quarters of them were actually women, many of whom came from quite middle class backgrounds with degrees in math, science, engineering and physics.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And they were given entry into those STEM programs due to the lack of men who had been sent to war. But what happened was so many of those women who did these incredibly complex calculations and who were able to then solve some of the great mysteries and actually they think shorten the war by two to four years. They went on to run the country. No, they didn't. They went back to being housewives.
Starting point is 00:11:13 They weren't allowed to even tell their husbands what they were doing because it was all under the like secret code of the, you know, like forces and everything. And so all these incredibly smart women, once all the men came back, just had to go back to raising kids. There's nothing wrong with that, but, you know, have limited choices and get married and generally live pretty boring lives. And no one really knew a lot about them.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And I just find that so frustrating. And they were called things like the Bletchleyettes and the Dillies Fillies, this guy called Dylan Knox, who was kind of one of the leaders in code breaking. So the men tend to be more well-known, but some of these Dillies Fillies in inverted commas were women like Jean Perrin, Claire Harding, Rachel Ronald and Elizabeth Granger and Jane Hughes. Yeah. Responsible for just incredible things, spoke so many languages like French and German. Yeah, just incredible about a history.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And I find a lot of the time women get kind of erased from history. Yeah. A lot. Or they get lumped together in that kind of like patronising Dillies Fillies words or whatever. Anyway. Women of the war. They're all categorised as that woman who's like.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah. Look at my bicep. So all of these incredibly smart women with these incredible talents then just had to give up their jobs. Anyway, so this is a fictional story but it is based around women who have come from Bletchley Park, loosely based around sort of true events of the women's lives that were there. So seven years later, Susan, Millie, Lucy and Jean,
Starting point is 00:12:43 who work together, then kind of come back together to start solving crime basically. And they're husbands and they're all in different situations. One's in domestic violence and the other's got a husband who's like lovely, works in like the transport department and is just so dismissive of her. That's a real Nick Mason if ever I've heard one. He's so supportive of women.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Anyway, but the man in it, it's just such a look at society at that time and how women were so disregarded. And there's just this series of murders of women being brutally murdered and the police don't know what to do. Is it the one person doing the murders? Well, there's actually a couple of series in this show and so there's a couple of different crimes that unfold. Oh, you say.
Starting point is 00:13:25 But, yeah, the women work together and they kind of end up showing up the police a little bit even though the police get initially don't listen to them because they're women and da-da-da. Right, right. So it's, yeah, it's just really, it's great. It's kind of like a look at a really interesting period in history. It's quite funny. It makes me quite furious a lot of the time as well.
Starting point is 00:13:47 But it's also just a great kind of rollicking story. Yeah. Great murder mystery, you know, kind of thing. And you'd kiss it. You'd kiss it? I'd kiss it. Yeah. It's just really addictive watching too.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Have you watched it before? Because I know you said you thought, I don't think you have mentioned this before, but have you watched it before? All right. Yeah, yeah. I've watched it before. Yes. I watched it a while ago.
Starting point is 00:14:05 It's on Netflix. I think there's three series and they're just great. And the costumes and the period kind of look of the whole show is great too. How many people are smoking cigarettes in this show? Oh, many are smoking a cigarette. And I guess at this time, like while we're all hanging out in our houses and we're kind of living through a really crazy point in history, it's really interesting to go back and have a look at other points in history.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah. Yeah. I think it makes me marvel at how far women's rights have come. And how far have they come? Very far. That's good, but not far enough. Not far enough. I think also, and this is going to sound really lame.
Starting point is 00:14:42 This is another Instagram plug. No, it's not. Royal raw callings might need to edit this bit out if i think i'm gonna sound like too much of a dickhead but people often say to me this phrase which really irritates me and i've talked to you about this before people are like oh you're a smart woman you're so smart claire's such a smart woman who said that you're a smart woman who would dare i know i know which is like a lovely compliment but no i'm not that's what i'm saying but like men don't don't get called oh what a smart guy you know like oh you're a smart i don't know it just annoys me sometimes that patronizing kind of thing of like well not all the implication is not all women are smart and it's unusual that
Starting point is 00:15:22 you're a smart woman well i i mean think like not all men are smart no not all women are smart and it's unusual that you're a smart woman. Well, I think like not all men are smart. No, not all women are smart, but it is an odd compliment to be like, oh, that's surprising that you're smart. That's what I mean. It's sort of more unusual or something. And I'm definitely, there are women and men who are much smarter than me, you know, much more than me. However.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Don't know about that. All I'm trying to say is it bugs me. And watching this, I really identify with the women who are a little bit frustrated and have these brains that aren't being utilized. Yeah. That's all I wanted to say. The Bletchley circle on Netflix. Get into it.
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Starting point is 00:16:35 Off I go? You have. There's a show called Miracle Workers. Here it's on Stan, I think. Yeah, it is on Stan here, but who knows where it's on wherever you are. It stars Daniel Radcliffe, Geraldine Viswanathan. I've definitely said it. That is an interesting surname.
Starting point is 00:16:51 She's great. She's in a teen movie where a guy accidentally cuts his dick off. It's actually a fun movie. She's in Blockers, I think, as well. Have you seen Blockers? No. Anyway, Steve Buscemi. He cuts his own dick off.
Starting point is 00:17:03 On purpose? No, Claire. What a smart guy. I know. That's what I said. Quran, Sony. So season one is kind of like a not as good version of The Good Place. Earth sucks and God is an idiot, played by Steve Buscemi.
Starting point is 00:17:20 He doesn't really know what he's doing. It's just fine. Like a kind of, it's fun and everyone's kind of fun and good in it and daniel radcliffe and whatever it's all it's all good but season two they've made this like an anthology series so it's much more interesting so they've taken it back to the dark ages it's the same cast but it's they're playing different characters in a completely different setting set in like a really horrible time in english history where everything is superstition and education is dumb and violence kind of rules. Like if you're stupid or violent, you kind of get ahead as opposed
Starting point is 00:17:50 to if you know anything. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Oh, great. It sounds like all the terrible times in history. Exactly. Well, that's exactly what it is. So Daniel Radcliffe is the son of an insane king,
Starting point is 00:18:00 but he's kind of this dandy kind of he's trying to do well and be nice, but he's also really pampered. so he's got this skewed perspective and uh geraldine vishwanathan i feel like i'm saying that wrong every time she's the daughter of edward murphy shit shoveler so she's that's her job she then has to take on the family uh job even though she's quite well she's quite smart and educated and she understands kind of physics for the time and how everything kind of works. So you could completely skip the first season if you wanted to. It wouldn't really matter because the second season is a huge improvement, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It's kind of like, you know, Black Adder kind of skipped through time. Yes. It's kind of like in that kind of respect. I see. Yeah. So I think it's – I've been watching it for a while and I've been meaning to bring it up for weeks now and I think it might be near the end of the second season now and it comes up weekly on Stan.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But again, I don't know what it's doing wherever you are, wherever anybody else is. So I think you also would like it. Yeah, I've seen you watching this on and off. I think I – yeah, I think I probably would really like it. I liked Daniel Radcliffe. I met him once. You did meet him once.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I did. Because, I mean, he's never really going to not be Harry Potter, is he? No. I mean, what's crazy about I think most of the people from Harry Potter except for one of the bullies who went to jail for rioting during the London riots, they're all relatively normal despite being insanely wealthy and very famous from a very young age. I think they were looked after well, though.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah, I think you might be right. I think there's a difference between the era where Drew Barrymore grew up as a child star. Yeah, that was horrible. She was abused and there were drugs at a very young age. So many young stars at that point. I think it depends on who's looking after you as well, like what your circumstances are.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, and I also think J.K. Rowling in general, we went and saw Harry Potter the Musical, which was amazing. Harry Potter the Musical? Oh, not the musical, the stage show, The Cursed Child. Someone I met in a cafe, her mum was actually in that show, and she said that J.K. Rowling made a real point at looking after all of the actors. And it's the show that those actors had been in that was the most generous with a pay
Starting point is 00:20:08 be sick leave which often actors in shows like that never get sick definitely yeah because they're you know limited it's a lot of time if you're if you're an actor and they didn't they had less hours on stage they had more time to rest in between shows oh really it is a huge huge show you've seen it it's like a whole day or you got to do it over two days i wonder if her attitude has kind of filtered through to the maybe because i or it's just a new no i don't i think you might be right because she did have a lot of sway over the directors and the cast for those movies that was a condition of her coming on board of selling the book rights i know she she pushed for a British cast, which there's no Americans in those movies, or if there are, there aren't many,
Starting point is 00:20:50 and that's a result of her. That's why every British actor kind of shows up in those because I know Steven Spielberg was going to do it at one point and he wanted Hayley Joel Osment to be Harry Potter. It just would have had a different feel. I'm not saying it wouldn't have been. Look, to be honest, I don't like those first three movies. I don't think they're good.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I think they're good kids' movies, but I don't think they're very. I mean, nothing beats the books. That's in my opinion. Speaking of, actually, on my more popular podcast, The Weekly Planet, we're doing Harry Potter movies five and six this week. Oh, a bit of cross promo over there. A bit of cross promo. So much cross promo, and we're just promoting ourselves shamelessly on this episode.
Starting point is 00:21:25 To Harry Potter movies this week. Well, there's some of the better ones. Yeah, they're good. My lovely friend Chanel uses Harry Potter as her happy place. Oh, good. And I respect that. But I also feel like that last movie really burnt me out on Harry Potter and seeing the play, which, again, I liked, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:41 I'm kind of done on Harry Potter for the moment, but I'm going back by popular demand, yeah. Yeah, and look, I liked, but I'm like I'm kind of done on Harry Potter for the moment, but I'm going back by popular demand, yeah. Yeah, and look, I liked the movies. I enjoyed them, but the books just I've read them so many times they just take me into another place. Actually, I should reread them again. Nah. Who's got the time?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Who has the time? Okay, where are we up to? Who's turning it to review? You, it's your turn. That's my turn to review. All right, okay, so after my The Bletchley Circle rant, I actually just have some suggestions for parenting ideas. It's my little parenting segment.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Turn it off if you don't care about small humans. I was thinking about this today and just seeing people online. If we didn't have kids, this would be the easiest fucking thing in the world because we work from home anyway. Yeah. If like everyone's different, like some people lost their jobs and living in different situations. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I'm talking about our particular situation. Obviously. I'm not saying anybody who doesn't have kids is flying through this, but I'm saying in our particular circumstance, this would be, I would cruise through this. I wouldn't even blink. Of course you wouldn't. You're bloody introverted. It's your dream. I think you'd struggle with it more than I would.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Yeah. But saying that, I've kind of feel like I've got into a rhythm with it now. Yeah, definitely. But that is very true. There is a big difference between people who have, especially little kids and people who don't. Because if they're older kids and they're teenagers, I'm assuming there's also really tough stuff about it too, but they can entertain themselves a lot more, right? Like they have school work to do. They've got books.
Starting point is 00:23:11 They don't want to be hanging around with their parents all the time. They are independent. They think their parents are big nerds. Big old nerdy nerds. At the moment I keep saying to my son, though, he doesn't. I'm like, one day you're not going to want to hang out with me. You're not going to want to hold my hand. God, stop saying that to him.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And he's like, ah, let's wrestle or whatever. I know, he's the best. All he wants to do is hang with us. He's doing really well. He is. He's a real trooper and he's been incredible. And actually he's keeping me sane through all of this. But as well, it's hard because there's all these things that he would normally have and
Starting point is 00:23:38 do and he can't do them. And so we're having to create a whole little world in our house. Yeah, absolutely. And so for those parents who are particularly, I think with him, it's easier because he's so fun to hang out with now because he is learning new things and you can have conversations with him and reason with him mostly. I think if you had two-year-olds, three-year-olds. That would be very different, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I know. I'm just, I am in solidarity with you guys out there. I'm not. You're on your own. If you have kids with special needs or learning difficulties, if you're a carer, man, I'm just with you guys. Amazing. So much respect.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Anyway, so I thought I would do some things that I've been doing with him that seem to be working. You know who the real heroes are, though? Who? Justice League. Some of the best. They're out there, fictionally, solving crimes and things. Like finding a cure for the coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:24:26 No, no, I'm saying in their fictional universe, they've got their own thing going on. They might be doing DCs. No, I keep having to read that stupid dictionary of the Justice League. Do you know why we have that Justice League kids manual? It's because a friend of mine bleeped this name out, Colin. So, yeah, I know. He goes, you like comics?
Starting point is 00:24:46 And he gave me this. And I'm like, this is a children's book, you fucking muppet. He gave it to me like eight years ago when we didn't have kids. And I'm like, what do you think I do? Because you're a child. You were essentially a giant. I didn't say that. I don't think that it's much of a stretch for your friend to buy you a hard copy.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I could take a comic off the shelf right now of like somebody tearing off another person's head or something. Comics are not just for kids. Claire. I've really hit a sore point. But that's what's good about them because there's so much variety in I know. In what you can do with different characters. I know. They're amazing. They're graphic novels.
Starting point is 00:25:27 They're very adult. One time Bane picked up Batman and broke him over his knee. Whoa. His spine snapped like a packet of spaghetti. That's terrible. That's ironic. I may pass it tonight for dins. You certainly do.
Starting point is 00:25:39 For old dindins. Okay. Well, can I get back to my recommendation? I guess. Oh, God. I exploded some kind of weird bomb over there of like, I'm not really a child. My job is a real job.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I didn't say that. I didn't say any of that. All I'm saying is our friend. My job is a real job. Is an idiot. He's not an idiot. Yes, he is. Most jobs aren't real anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I hate that Justice League dictionary. It's really boring, but our son loves it. Literally, it's just listing superheroes. Yeah. All right. Okay. So the things that have superheroes. Yeah. All right. Okay. So the things that have been really working. Lunchbox.
Starting point is 00:26:08 So I pre-make in the morning a lunchbox, which I know some parents are like, ooh, lunchboxes suck. I've got one of those ones that's got little compartments in it so you don't have to wrap anything because that's the bane of my existence. Sure. You just shove a whole lot of snacks in there because one thing that is annoying about little kids, they can't make their own snacks. And so when they're hungry, so often you have to keep going
Starting point is 00:26:26 to make the snacks. But if you can pre-make all the snacks in the morning and make it an activity with them, and then they can just go to their lunchbox whenever they need to. That's right. So good. And I put on my Instagram, but I talked about it last week, that I'm doing pretend kinder.
Starting point is 00:26:41 You could do pretend school as well. It's real fun. You could do pretend anything. Lunchbox is part of that. You could do pretend school as well. It's real fun. You could do pretend anything. Lunchbox is part of that. You could do pretend stuck in your house because of a virus. All right. Well, anyway, I think that's kind of fun and that's the joy of little kids. They've got that imagination that will go with you with that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Okay. Here are some other things that I reckon are lifesavers. I love lifesavers. There's a website called Storyline Online. Have you heard about this, James? I don't know what a website is. I think you would really like it. It's stories read by celebrities.
Starting point is 00:27:09 For instance, your favourite, David Harbour. I do like David Harbour. Yeah, you actually would like this. It's not corny. It's just lovely. How do you know I like David Harbour? What do you know about me and David Harbour? I know you.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I know you love him. You have a big man boner for him. You've talked about him before. For anyone who doesn't know. That's just a regular boner. It's not called a man boner. It's just a boner. Anyway, he reads.
Starting point is 00:27:32 That's sexist. Pipe down. Anyway, it's actually really great and the stories are great. They mainly show the pictures. The celebrities is obviously talking. Yeah. But they're doing it and it's really cosy and lovely. So David Harbour reads Snapseed the Alligator.
Starting point is 00:27:45 There's Chris O'Dowd who's quite a fun, fun guy from the IT crowd and he reads Arnie the Donut. Yes. One of my favourites is Harry the Dirty Dog. I love that book and it's read by Betty White. Oh, Betty White. Who's just bloody terrible. Every time I hear Betty White's alive, I'm like, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I know. She's Golden Girls, right? One of, I think. Pretty sure. Anyway, I love her. That's a hear Betty White's alive, I'm like, that's amazing. I know. She's Golden Girls, right? One of, I think. Pretty sure. Anyway, I love her. That's a very, very popular show that I never watched. There's a lot of like, oh, my God, the Golden Girls are the best. I'm like, yeah, it's the best.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I love it. I've never seen it. I loved the Cosby show. Oh, he's a rapist. He's in jail for rape. I loved that show so much. I never really watched it either. Fuck that guy.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Oh, well, he was seriously part of my childhood. I loved that show. He was part of everybody's childhood except for mine. Anyway, so Storyline Online, get on it. It's really great. The website's really awesome too. They have really great pictures of all of the books and there's just lots of really good quality kids' books. So if you are tired and can't be bothered reading some stories
Starting point is 00:28:41 and you have some work to do, pop your kids in front of that. They'll love it. They'll of that. They'll love it. They'll love it. They'll kiss it. So other things you can do are virtual excursions, which are really – I know they're not the same, but some of the websites actually are really cool. I know James is like trying to poke his eye out with the corner of his glasses. So you can go to the Louvre.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You can go – You can go to the Louvre. Go to the toilet at the Louvre. A lot of different zoos have virtual things. It's really cool. And the museums as well. So all over the world. So in New York and everywhere else they have kind of virtual.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So you can walk down and be like, what's going on here? Yeah, you can go and have a look. And they're like 3D. They have lots of cool stuff on their site. So another really cool one I found was explore the surface of Mars on the Curiosity rover, which is at accessmars.withgoogle.com. And so you can actually go on the Curiosity Rover. Accessmars.withgoogle.com.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Yeah, that's the website. Why? Because it's Google. But it's at with? Oh, no. Let me read it again. Accessmars.withgoogle.com. I'm saying with.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I don't know what's happening anymore. I had to go to my appointment today and I had to sanitize my hands 50 times and then I talked to the receptionist behind glass 1.5 metres away. Like you're buying a gun at a bank. Yeah, it was ruined. So virtual excursion is actually really cool. And that also links in with Google Earth. Google Earth is awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You can type in any location. What's Google Earth? You know Google Earth. Yeah Earth is awesome. You can type in any location. What's Google Earth? You know Google Earth. Yeah, I know. So does everybody listening on this. Oh, shut up. Well, I'm just reminding people because people are tired. It's fun for kids to do and you can type in like your own,
Starting point is 00:30:16 what are you doing over there? We'll see in a second. Okay, oh, he's doing that thing. Anyway, he's so annoying with his phone. Yeah, so you can type in like any location in the world and you can zoom in and you can walk along the streets. Really, really fun and cool. The other thing I found, it's coming up to Easter. So we're reading a book called Spots First Easter by Eric Hill. It's really cute. It just has like a little spot Easter egg hunt in it. It's gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:30:43 If you don't have a copy, I'm sure you could also find a version of it being read online. And kids just love it. Then you can do little Easter egg hunts in the garden. You can hunt for actual eggs or you could go and hide pretend eggs and then you can do lots of little counting games and colour recognition and all kinds of stuff with the Easter eggs. I'm ignoring you with your shark app.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I'm going to show you. No, this shark app. I'm going to show you. No, this is important. I'm going to show people when you're finished. Good. Anyway, so there are my little parenting ideas. Here's another one. There's certain animals that you type in, a lot of the common ones. And so you type in shark, like I've got here.
Starting point is 00:31:17 In what, James? In Google, Claire. You just go down, you click on 3D, and then you find like a space, and then that shark will appear in augmented reality in your room. So you look through your phone and the shark is like it's in your room floating around like a shark. And look, you can move it around. It can get bigger and smaller. I actually hate this.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Oh, really? All of your suggestions were internet related, Claire. And you hate my internet thing? They weren't all internet related. One of them was go to the toilet online or whatever you said. No, virtual excursions. Virtual explosion of weed. What?
Starting point is 00:31:51 You're the bloody worst, mate. I know. Is that the show for the week? Yeah, I think it is. I don't even know anymore and I don't like you very much. That's okay. You don't have to like me. You just have to live with me for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Oh, very briefly, I wanted to talk about that Guardian article. Have you heard about the Paris lockdown? Yes. Obviously, that is happening at the moment. I have. My sister was in Paris recently. Something went around in your family's WhatsApp group. Yeah, it's really cool.
Starting point is 00:32:15 The Guardian wrote, well, it's cool, kind of eerie, spooky, sort of strange thing to happen. It's ghost, is it? It could be. So the Guardian has written an article entitled Paris Lockdown Leaves Streets Stuck in 1942 for Abandoned Film Set. And basically what happened is in northern Paris, two streets, Rue Bethay and Rue Andro-Y-
Starting point is 00:32:38 not how you pronounce it- In Montmartre. Probably not how you pronounce it either. Perfect. Near Sacré-Cœur, anyway, Basilica, is left in a time walk of the Nazi occupation for a film that was being made that's had to go into, you know, obviously stop.
Starting point is 00:32:55 What was the film? Because of the coronavirus. The film was directed by Fred Cavella. It's called Adieu Monsieur Hoffman. It's an adaptation of an award-winning play telling the story of Joseph Hoffman, a Jewish jeweler in Paris at the start of the war who is forced to hide in the cellar of his shop as the Nazis take over the city. So there's obviously, it's a black comedy, but a lot of the shop fronts have like the Nazi symbols. They've got lots of messages on them,
Starting point is 00:33:22 obviously being shut down due to the war and the occupation. So it's quite a spooky thing. A lot of people in Paris are locked in their houses looking out to what resembles 1942 Paris. Nazi occupation of Paris. Yeah, yeah, which is crazy. Yeah, and there's just kind of like crazy things written on the walls that are actually quite sort of relevant now to what is happening.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Because there's Nazis. Because there's Nazis, yeah. Not that there is actually Nazis in Paris. But anyway. I'd imagine there'd be some. There's a sign on a fake pharmacy that says, Dear customers, because of a lack of deliveries, certain articles are out of stock.
Starting point is 00:34:00 So it's an example of life imitating art imitating life, James. Oh, my God. It's almost like a shark in an app situation in a room. Oh, that classic saying. That classic saying. Speaking of in-app, did you know people can review this show in-app? You just open up your app and you can just click it if you're in your iTunes or whatever. Five stars if you want, but obviously it's completely up to you. This is from Lady Meridon.
Starting point is 00:34:21 It says 10 out of five stars. Oh my goodness. If you're looking for a delightful conversation between two people who you wish you could be friends with in real life, look no further. Claire and James always brighten my day and bring a smile to my face. Very kind. Thank you very much. That is so kind. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Well, we got a lovely email from Chris Small, and the subject line is, ha-ha, fantastic. So he's really gone on board with your saying. He says some really lovely things about us. He makes Weekly Planet posters and he's in Canada, Chris Small. I won't read all the lovely things he said about us because they're so lovely, but I'll read them to you later. Maybe alone.
Starting point is 00:34:58 No, I don't know why I said that. You just winked at me. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. It's really late here. I'm tired. Okay. So he recommends for James Iron Fist and Kung Fu Kicks. You winked at me. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. It's really late here. I'm tired. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:09 So he recommends for James Iron Fist and Kung Fu Kicks, a doco on Netflix about the origins and impacts of Hong Kong martial arts films on other genres and cinemas in general. The stars in the early film can still be clearly seen in all the movies James talks about on his other more popular podcast. The doco specifically focuses on the adoption of the kung fu genre by marginalized and oppressed groups and cultures. Oh, my goodness. That sounds right up your alley.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So far up, it's probably called James Alley. I'd love to visit James Alley. James Alley. It'd just be me going, get the fuck out of my alley. Fantastic. That's what it would be. And for me, he's recommended Life After Life by Kate Axenson, who I love. I think she's a great author.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I've read some of her other books. Name them. What? Name them. God something. There's one called God and then the other one. God something. My brain doesn't work very well.
Starting point is 00:35:59 My brain doesn't work. These are good ones. And the other one I read was about the detective. I read two and they're both about the same detective. And he's like, I'm on the case. I can't remember the names of them, but they're really good. They sound terrific. Oh, shut up.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Now I'm going to have to Google it. No, you don't. Colleagues will link them below. I know, but I need to know. Case histories. That's what it was. And also a God in ruins. There you go. there you go there you go anyway going back to
Starting point is 00:36:28 life after life which i want to read because it sounds great an incredibly inventive novel about the rather eventful life of a woman named ursula todds born in 1910 the story is told in an utterly unique narrative fashion which is a bit difficult to describe at each each point in the book where Ursula is exposed to catastrophe, we are whisked back a few steps in time to see how the story progresses if her previous fateful choice was just slightly different. Oh, my God. It's like the movie Memento sort of. Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Exactly. And he's also got a great link for Kids Sunday, TV free activities you can do with your child. Give me 10. It's a book. Oh, it's a book. It's a book, yeah, by Steve and Ruth Bennett. Ooh, all of these are great.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Thank you so much, Chris. We really appreciate it. Really appreciate that. Those are great suggestions. Thanks, mate. And you catered to our specific needs. And I respect that. This guy is cool.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I also respect it. He's also used your favourite couch phrase. Which is? Ha ha. Fantastic. You're ruining it. That's not how you do it.? Ha ha. Fantastic. You're ruining it. That's not how you do it. Ha ha ha. Fantastic?
Starting point is 00:37:29 No, Claire. Fantastic. No, it's like this. Ha ha. Fantastic. I didn't do it right. Okay. No, you didn't. Let me try. Let me try. Let me try. Ha ha. Fantastic-o. I mean, that's the popular European version.
Starting point is 00:37:48 We're nearly hitting 40 minutes. We really are. All right. That's everything. So next week. That's everything. This again, I guess. This is again.
Starting point is 00:37:55 So I've got to somehow squeeze in watching two Harry Potter movies and the Fantastic Four 2015, which is a horrible film. While reading every night Justice League dictionaries. I was reading a Justice League book and looking after my kid every day as long as doing work and workout videos and also all the metadata shit you've got to do with like YouTube. It's a pain in the ass. And audio editing.
Starting point is 00:38:16 But at least I've got some wonderful editors. Ben, Matt and Mitch, they're out there in the world doing good stuff. Are they? I don't know what they're up to. Who knows? You know what I'm quite enjoying about this? And I know I'm in a very privileged position to be enjoying this time period. Stealing my drinks out of the fridge. There are really hard things.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I'm very pregnant. I know. I'm drinking a kombucha. I am very pregnant, though, to be fair. So, you know, I'm allowed to find some glimpses of joy. I would say you're selfish most of the time, regardless of you being pregnant. But what did you want to say? Guys, it's a long
Starting point is 00:38:48 time. What were you enjoying? It's a long time to be married. What are you enjoying? Life is long. It's only five years. It's not even that long. People do this for decades. We've got bloody, we potentially have bloody like 80 years left. Get bloody less for murder, am I right? Yeah, you would. That's what I'm saying. That's the expression that people say. I'll murder you.
Starting point is 00:39:04 That's if you go to any wedding anniversary, the husband's? Yeah, you would. That's what I'm saying. That's the expression that people say. That's if you go to any wedding anniversary, the husband's always like, your buddy got less for murder. And if he doesn't say it in the crowd, someone's like, you got less for bloody. You know, if you murder your wife, you'd actually get less bloody time. Are they the same people that like those Gaelic women that say that joke? Probably, yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Okay, anyway, all I was going to say was there is one comforting thing that I'm finding that you think about. You know how you – anyway, you don't experience FOMO. You don't like doing anything. But I experience FOMO on a daily basis. And being preggo, there's a lot of things I can't do or like I'm too tired to do because I will just fall asleep. But I have this like weird comfort about everybody that we know,
Starting point is 00:39:44 just all mostly unless they are going into work, just staying home. Yeah, that's right. And the good thing is when we have our kid in however many weeks that is happening, our other kid that's happening, everybody will be stuck inside regardless probably. Correct. You know, so thank goodness everybody will be as miserable as us. Good night, everyone.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I'm leaving. I've had enough. He's left. He's gone. I'm leaving the room. Oh, all right. I'm leaving. I've had enough. He's left. He's gone. I'm leaving the room. Oh. All right. I'll say goodbye on my own.
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