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What a time to be alive.
Terrific.
How's that catchphrase going over there, James?
I'm Claire, by the way.
This is Suggestible Pod.
We recommend you things to watch and listen to.
I'm not going to call you that.
Coming at you high energy.
We don't have any Nick Mason today in the episode. No, but that's, but I'm sure we'll
see an increase in numbers regardless because you know, you know what he's like, Claire, you know
what he's about. He's so bloody popular though, mate. Actually, I didn't check the numbers. What
were the numbers last week? I don't know. I didn't check either. Let's assume bad. All right. So we
suggest things, don't we? Or did you already say that? I did. I did. I did. And never has there been a better time for you to get things suggested
to you to watch, read and listen to, considering that we're all in our houses.
Well, or should be in our houses.
Or should be in our houses.
Hope you're not still on spring break or if one of those boomers just wandering around
the centre of town waiting to die.
We really shouldn't be making jokes because it's a very serious time.
You're right, Claire.
But if we can't laugh at all the people who will die from this disease, what can we laugh at?
No, we're not making jokes.
Okay, sorry.
Don't make jokes.
However, you'll be right out there.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
Who knows?
Anyway, let's just recommend you some stuff to make you feel happy.
Should I start or do you want to start?
Just before we start, I need to confess something.
Okay.
I love a confession.
I sang Sweet Caroline on my Instagram account.
This sounds less like a confession and more like a humble brag, Claire.
No, it was bad.
Get out of here with that.
I listened back to it.
It wasn't supposed to be good.
Because I'm not good at guitar,
but I'm trying to pick up hobbies, seeing as they're stuck in isolation,
and I've stared at that bloody guitar forever.
And so I've learnt a new song on it, and I thought people should know
that Sweet Caroline, you can play it in three and a half chords.
Oh, my goodness.
Neil Diamond, you a big fan?
Well, I like Sweet Caroline. So yeah.
You don't like the one that goes, good lord!
I listened to a lot of Neil Diamond
growing up because my parents were big fans.
They also really loved those Irish
women that sing. What are they called?
The Gaelic women or whatever.
Yeah, they're always like, ooh, daddy
boy! In a like giant
dress.
Singing in front of a fake castle.
But, like, in an enormous stadium with, like, a million people in there.
I know.
And I'm like, who's this for?
Your parents.
Who are the fans of this?
Your parents, your mum and dad love them.
I think part of it is also they're, like, they're very good-looking Irish ladies.
So I think that's part of it.
I think that's, like, there's a few Irish men.
Your dad listens to our show i don't care so i think there's a bit of like you know wives will like it because they love
the music and husbands like yeah i also like this i mainly just like the cleavage there is quite a
lot of cleavage that's all i'm saying you've called your dad out just google cleavage you
don't need bloody isolation mate you don't need to take him down even further. Absolutely, I do.
All right, off to the starting of the Suggestibles.
Yeah, speaking of isolation and despair,
I watched an incredibly bleak thing last night.
It's a new movie to stream.
Oh, that's a new thing for you?
But I think it helped me in the log run.
It's called Vivarium and it's the director Loken Finnegan.
Post-apocalyptic.
Zombies.
Robots.
AI.
It stars Imogen Poots and Jesse Eisenberg,
who you may know as young and upcoming actors.
That's probably not true. I think they were both in their 30s.
So anyway, they're looking for a home because they want to buy houses.
A lot of millennials do.
You know what I mean?
They want to get into that market while you can.
They either want to buy a house or in Australia eat avocado on toast.
Oh, my God.
You can't do both.
You've got to pick one or the other.
Do you remember the time when people were just in uproar
about millennials being forced not to eat brunch so they could buy a house?
Those things don't even correlate.
If you do crunch the numbers, the amount of avocado toast you would not have to eat.
I don't know the numbers, but it's not conceivable in a lifetime
that if you save the $3 maybe twice a week,
it doesn't actually factor in at all.
You have to make like grand sweeping kind of financial decisions
or just come into a lot of money.
So anyway, whatever.
Or get free university education.
Yeah, exactly.
So that comes from a lot of people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
Just pull yourself up.
Shut up.
Anyway.
Okay, tell us about your crap, desolate thing that you love.
Everything you watch, you are always watching stuff that's like set in a bleak landscape.
Yeah, this was, I did not like this at all, but it's a good movie.
Like I liked it, but it's like I did not enjoy watching that kind of thing.
So they go to a very odd real estate agent and he leads them to,
he's a very odd man.
It's like, what's wrong with this guy?
And he leads them to a really idyllic neighborhood,
but not idyllic in a good way.
Every house is literally exactly the same.
The sky is really uniform in terms of like the way that it looks.
And then he shows them around the house and then he disappears.
And then they go, okay, I guess we'll just leave.
So they leave, but they can't get out of this neighbourhood.
It looks exactly the same no matter where they go.
This is the worst thing to be watching at the moment.
I know.
So they're driving around and around until eventually they run out of petrol.
But every time they kind of keep turning corners,
they end up back at this house, this particular house that they've been shown.
There's no one there, by the way.
There's no one in the neighborhood.
It's just them.
And so they're stuck in this place.
They don't know why they're there.
And then somebody, I won't go any further than this,
but somebody dumps a baby on the doorstep and says,
you need to raise this baby.
And it's really claustrophobic and, and just upsetting and disturbing.
And you feel like you're in it,
like the sense of isolation and slowly kind of going mad.
And like,
what is kind of going on?
You feel like you're in it.
Like it really,
and it's really kind of trippy,
but,
and it's like kind of a mystery,
but it's not,
it won't give you the answers
that you're kind of looking for but yeah i didn't like it but it was good no i'm legitimately i'm
not making fun of you can you tell me why you chose to watch because also off the back of that
i'm like oh at least i'm not these two people like because they're stuck in a house but it's
like this weirdly uniformed i guess for like lack of a better word, perfect house.
You know that we are going to be given a baby.
Well, like a baby will be dragged, kicked and screaming out of me.
Yeah, it's not just the baby that's upsetting.
It's like the things that kind of happen as a result of this baby.
Well, they're trapped in a house.
From the opening of this movie, which again, I won't spoil,
because I feel like that kind of gives away where it ends up going.
Oh, okay.
And I just, I enjoy, I will never watch it again, but I did enjoy it.
I found it really engrossing.
So what's it called?
It's called Vivarium.
And where can you find it?
What did I, I think I streamed off Prime, but I had to go through a VPN because it wasn't.
Oh, like ExpressVPN.
ExpressVPN, our sponsor from last week.
Correct.
Our Royal Collings will put a link to the link underneath.
Oh, let's not do any free publicity here, Claire.
If you would like to, please help the show.
But that's what I've happened to do for a lot of movies
because they're like, it's released on streaming.
Yeah, everywhere else but here for some reason.
So that's what I've been doing.
I am genuinely curious though, why are you drawn to such dark subject matter?
Because it's compelling and it's also,
at the end of the day, that's not our particular situation.
So are you, because I can't do this.
Like I have always been, as a kid as well,
we never watched TV unless we were seriously watching it.
Like we weren't ever a family that just had it on the background.
And I find TV so absorbing and so emotionally like draining or I just take
on board the characters.
And sometimes if I watch a show for a long enough time,
I can start talking like some of the characters in the TV.
It's just, it's part of my personality.
I don't know why I do it, but that's what happens.
And so to me, when I, if I had to watch something like that,
I would go insane.
Like I can't cope with it.
So is it that you're able to distance yourself and like look at it
as a piece of art?
I can separate myself from it, yeah.
And like to be fair, I did have like weird dreams.
I kind of related to this thing.
But again, I can look at this and go, well, this is not a real thing.
This is obviously a fake situation.
Is that how you're able to watch all those terrible horror films?
You don't really watch horror, you know, like Westworld and those kind of shows.
Yeah, I can kind of switch off from things, yeah.
So I would say, yeah, if you kind of want something upsetting.
And there's some very kind of disturbing moments. Not like horror stuff.
It was such glee.
This is like that time you ruined Christmas by telling me about that
Tony Collette movie where they all end up in a snow globe stalked
by a giant monster and I thought it was going to be like a happy
family Christmas movie.
Yeah, the Krampus.
Get into it.
They're very different people.
All those Santa's toys that come in, the Krampus' toys,
they're all filled with meat.
They're like horrible creatures under there.
Anyway, what do you want to recommend?
Is it more disturbing than Okja?
Last question.
Yeah.
Way more.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm not watching that.
But good on you for choosing more bleak shit to watch in your downtime.
My second one is less bleak, but thank you.
All right.
I'm seriously doubting that.
All right.
So I thought I would recommend a TV show quickly.
I'm sneakily worried I've already recommended it,
but I bloody love it, so I'm just going to go ahead.
Sure.
I couldn't find it.
So it's called The Bletchley Circle and it's an older one.
It's been around for quite a while.
2014.
Yeah, yeah.
It's really good though.
It's a television mystery drama miniseries set in 1952 to 53
about four women who worked as codebreakers at Belletchley Park
to satisfy with the officials' failure to investigate complex crimes.
So it kind of is set seven years later because Belletchley Park,
for anyone who doesn't know, was kind of the English base
for the Allied forces when they were deciphering codes.
Right, okay.
And what I find really interesting is this giant mansion, right,
and by January 1945 in World War II, it was the peak of the code-breaking efforts.
Nearly 10,000 personnel were working there at this mansion just breaking codes
and trying to decipher German messaging, and about three-quarters
of them were actually women, many of whom came from quite middle class backgrounds with degrees
in math, science, engineering and physics.
And they were given entry into those STEM programs due to the lack
of men who had been sent to war.
But what happened was so many of those women who did these incredibly
complex calculations and who were able to then solve some
of the great mysteries and actually they think shorten the war by two to four years.
They went on to run the country.
No, they didn't.
They went back to being housewives.
They weren't allowed to even tell their husbands what they were doing
because it was all under the like secret code of the, you know,
like forces and everything.
And so all these incredibly smart women, once all the men came back,
just had to go back to raising kids.
There's nothing wrong with that, but, you know,
have limited choices and get married and generally live pretty boring lives.
And no one really knew a lot about them.
And I just find that so frustrating.
And they were called things like the Bletchleyettes
and the Dillies Fillies, this guy called Dylan Knox,
who was kind of one of the leaders in
code breaking. So the men tend to be more well-known, but some of these Dillies Fillies
in inverted commas were women like Jean Perrin, Claire Harding, Rachel Ronald and Elizabeth
Granger and Jane Hughes. Yeah. Responsible for just incredible things, spoke so many languages
like French and German. Yeah, just incredible about a history.
And I find a lot of the time women get kind of erased from history.
Yeah.
A lot.
Or they get lumped together in that kind of like patronising
Dillies Fillies words or whatever.
Anyway.
Women of the war.
They're all categorised as that woman who's like.
Yeah.
Look at my bicep.
So all of these incredibly smart women with these incredible talents
then just had to give up their jobs.
Anyway, so this is a fictional story but it is based around women
who have come from Bletchley Park, loosely based around sort
of true events of the women's lives that were there.
So seven years later, Susan, Millie, Lucy and Jean,
who work together, then kind of come back together
to start solving crime basically.
And they're husbands and they're all in different situations.
One's in domestic violence and the other's got a husband
who's like lovely, works in like the transport department
and is just so dismissive of her.
That's a real Nick Mason if ever I've heard one.
He's so supportive of women.
Anyway, but the man in it, it's just such a look at society at that time
and how women were so disregarded.
And there's just this series of murders of women being brutally murdered
and the police don't know what to do.
Is it the one person doing the murders?
Well, there's actually a couple of series in this show
and so there's a couple of different crimes that unfold.
Oh, you say.
But, yeah, the women work together and they kind of end up showing
up the police a little bit even though the police get initially don't listen
to them because they're women and da-da-da.
Right, right.
So it's, yeah, it's just really, it's great.
It's kind of like a look at a really interesting period in history.
It's quite funny.
It makes me quite furious a lot of the time as well.
But it's also just a great kind of rollicking story.
Yeah.
Great murder mystery, you know, kind of thing.
And you'd kiss it.
You'd kiss it?
I'd kiss it.
Yeah.
It's just really addictive watching too.
Have you watched it before?
Because I know you said you thought, I don't think you have mentioned this before, but
have you watched it before?
All right.
Yeah, yeah.
I've watched it before.
Yes.
I watched it a while ago.
It's on Netflix.
I think there's three series and they're just great.
And the costumes and the period kind of look of the whole show is great too.
How many people are smoking cigarettes in this show?
Oh, many are smoking a cigarette.
And I guess at this time, like while we're all hanging out in our houses
and we're kind of living through a really crazy point in history,
it's really interesting to go back and have a look at other points in history.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it makes me marvel at how far women's rights have come.
And how far have they come?
Very far.
That's good, but not far enough.
Not far enough.
I think also, and this is going to sound really lame.
This is another Instagram plug.
No, it's not. Royal raw callings might need to edit
this bit out if i think i'm gonna sound like too much of a dickhead but people often say to me this
phrase which really irritates me and i've talked to you about this before people are like oh you're
a smart woman you're so smart claire's such a smart woman who said that you're a smart woman
who would dare i know i know which is like a lovely compliment but no i'm not that's what i'm saying but like men don't don't get called oh what a
smart guy you know like oh you're a smart i don't know it just annoys me sometimes that patronizing
kind of thing of like well not all the implication is not all women are smart and it's unusual that
you're a smart woman well i i mean think like not all men are smart no not all women are smart and it's unusual that you're a smart woman. Well, I think like not all men are smart.
No, not all women are smart, but it is an odd compliment to be like,
oh, that's surprising that you're smart.
That's what I mean.
It's sort of more unusual or something.
And I'm definitely, there are women and men who are much smarter than me,
you know, much more than me.
However.
Don't know about that.
All I'm trying to say is it bugs me.
And watching this,
I really identify with the women who are a little bit frustrated and have these brains that aren't being utilized.
Yeah.
That's all I wanted to say.
The Bletchley circle on Netflix.
Get into it.
Get into it.
Get out of it.
Raging feminism has come out.
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Off you go.
Off I go?
You have.
There's a show called Miracle Workers.
Here it's on Stan, I think.
Yeah, it is on Stan here, but who knows where it's on wherever you are.
It stars Daniel Radcliffe, Geraldine Viswanathan.
I've definitely said it.
That is an interesting surname.
She's great.
She's in a teen movie where a guy accidentally cuts his dick off.
It's actually a fun movie.
She's in Blockers, I think, as well.
Have you seen Blockers?
No.
Anyway, Steve Buscemi.
He cuts his own dick off.
On purpose?
No, Claire.
What a smart guy.
I know.
That's what I said.
Quran, Sony.
So season one is kind of like a not as good version of The Good Place.
Earth sucks and God is an idiot, played by Steve Buscemi.
He doesn't really know what he's doing.
It's just fine.
Like a kind of, it's fun and everyone's kind of fun and good in it and daniel radcliffe and whatever it's all it's all good but season two
they've made this like an anthology series so it's much more interesting so they've taken it
back to the dark ages it's the same cast but it's they're playing different characters in a
completely different setting set in like a really horrible time in english history where everything
is superstition and education is dumb and violence kind of rules.
Like if you're stupid or violent, you kind of get ahead as opposed
to if you know anything.
Does that make sense?
Yes, it does.
Oh, great.
It sounds like all the terrible times in history.
Exactly.
Well, that's exactly what it is.
So Daniel Radcliffe is the son of an insane king,
but he's kind of this dandy kind of he's trying to do well and be nice,
but he's also really pampered. so he's got this skewed perspective and uh geraldine vishwanathan i feel like i'm
saying that wrong every time she's the daughter of edward murphy shit shoveler so she's that's
her job she then has to take on the family uh job even though she's quite well she's quite
smart and educated and she understands kind of physics for the time and how everything kind of works.
So you could completely skip the first season if you wanted to.
It wouldn't really matter because the second season is a huge improvement,
I think.
It's kind of like, you know, Black Adder kind of skipped through time.
Yes.
It's kind of like in that kind of respect.
I see.
Yeah.
So I think it's – I've been watching it for a while and I've been meaning
to bring it up for weeks now and I think it might be near the end of the second season now
and it comes up weekly on Stan.
But again, I don't know what it's doing wherever you are,
wherever anybody else is.
So I think you also would like it.
Yeah, I've seen you watching this on and off.
I think I – yeah, I think I probably would really like it.
I liked Daniel Radcliffe.
I met him once.
You did meet him once.
I did.
Because, I mean, he's never really going to not be Harry Potter, is he?
No.
I mean, what's crazy about I think most of the people from Harry Potter
except for one of the bullies who went to jail for rioting
during the London riots, they're all relatively normal
despite being insanely wealthy and very famous from a very young age.
I think they were looked after well, though.
Yeah, I think you might be right.
I think there's a difference between the era where Drew Barrymore
grew up as a child star.
Yeah, that was horrible.
She was abused and there were drugs at a very young age.
So many young stars at that point.
I think it depends on who's looking after you as well,
like what your circumstances are.
Yeah, and I also think J.K. Rowling in general,
we went and saw Harry Potter the Musical, which was amazing.
Harry Potter the Musical?
Oh, not the musical, the stage show, The Cursed Child.
Someone I met in a cafe, her mum was actually in that show,
and she said that J.K. Rowling made a real point at looking
after all of the actors.
And it's the show that those actors had been in that was the most generous with a pay
be sick leave which often actors in shows like that never get sick definitely yeah because they're
you know limited it's a lot of time if you're if you're an actor and they didn't they had less
hours on stage they had more time to rest in between shows oh really it is a huge huge show you've seen it
it's like a whole day or you got to do it over two days i wonder if her attitude has kind of
filtered through to the maybe because i or it's just a new no i don't i think you might be right
because she did have a lot of sway over the directors and the cast for those movies that
was a condition of her coming on board of selling the book rights i know she she pushed for a British cast, which there's no Americans
in those movies, or if there are, there aren't many,
and that's a result of her.
That's why every British actor kind of shows up in those
because I know Steven Spielberg was going to do it at one point
and he wanted Hayley Joel Osment to be Harry Potter.
It just would have had a different feel.
I'm not saying it wouldn't have been.
Look, to be honest, I don't like those first three movies.
I don't think they're good.
I think they're good kids' movies, but I don't think they're very.
I mean, nothing beats the books.
That's in my opinion.
Speaking of, actually, on my more popular podcast, The Weekly Planet,
we're doing Harry Potter movies five and six this week.
Oh, a bit of cross promo over there.
A bit of cross promo.
So much cross promo, and we're just promoting ourselves shamelessly on this episode.
To Harry Potter movies this week.
Well, there's some of the better ones.
Yeah, they're good.
My lovely friend Chanel uses Harry Potter as her happy place.
Oh, good.
And I respect that.
But I also feel like that last movie really burnt me out on Harry Potter
and seeing the play, which, again, I liked, but I'm like,
I'm kind of done on Harry Potter for the moment,
but I'm going back by popular demand, yeah. Yeah, and look, I liked, but I'm like I'm kind of done on Harry Potter for the moment, but I'm going back by popular demand, yeah.
Yeah, and look, I liked the movies.
I enjoyed them, but the books just I've read them so many times
they just take me into another place.
Actually, I should reread them again.
Nah.
Who's got the time?
Who has the time?
Okay, where are we up to?
Who's turning it to review?
You, it's your turn.
That's my turn to review.
All right, okay, so after my The Bletchley Circle rant,
I actually just have some suggestions for parenting ideas.
It's my little parenting segment.
Turn it off if you don't care about small humans.
I was thinking about this today and just seeing people online.
If we didn't have kids, this would be the easiest fucking thing in the world
because we work from home anyway.
Yeah.
If like everyone's different, like some people lost their jobs
and living in different situations.
Obviously.
I'm talking about our particular situation.
Obviously.
I'm not saying anybody who doesn't have kids is flying through this,
but I'm saying in our particular circumstance, this would be,
I would cruise through this.
I wouldn't even blink.
Of course you wouldn't. You're bloody introverted. It's your dream.
I think you'd struggle with it more than I would.
Yeah. But saying that, I've kind of feel like I've got into a rhythm with it now.
Yeah, definitely.
But that is very true. There is a big difference between people who have,
especially little kids and people who don't. Because if they're older kids and they're teenagers,
I'm assuming there's also really tough stuff about it too,
but they can entertain themselves a lot more, right?
Like they have school work to do.
They've got books.
They don't want to be hanging around with their parents all the time.
They are independent.
They think their parents are big nerds.
Big old nerdy nerds.
At the moment I keep saying to my son, though, he doesn't.
I'm like, one day you're not going to want to hang out with me.
You're not going to want to hold my hand.
God, stop saying that to him.
And he's like, ah, let's wrestle or whatever.
I know, he's the best.
All he wants to do is hang with us.
He's doing really well.
He is.
He's a real trooper and he's been incredible.
And actually he's keeping me sane through all of this.
But as well, it's hard because there's all these things that he would normally have and
do and he can't do them.
And so we're having to create a whole little world in our house.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so for those parents who are particularly, I think with him,
it's easier because he's so fun to hang out with now because he is learning new things
and you can have conversations with him and reason with him mostly.
I think if you had two-year-olds, three-year-olds.
That would be very different, yeah.
I know.
I'm just, I am in solidarity with you guys out there.
I'm not.
You're on your own.
If you have kids with special needs or learning difficulties,
if you're a carer, man, I'm just with you guys.
Amazing.
So much respect.
Anyway, so I thought I would do some things that I've been doing with him
that seem to be working.
You know who the real heroes are, though?
Who?
Justice League.
Some of the best.
They're out there, fictionally, solving crimes and things.
Like finding a cure for the coronavirus.
No, no, I'm saying in their fictional universe,
they've got their own thing going on.
They might be doing DCs.
No, I keep having to read that stupid dictionary of the Justice League.
Do you know why we have that Justice League kids manual?
It's because a friend of mine bleeped this name out, Colin.
So, yeah, I know.
He goes, you like comics?
And he gave me this.
And I'm like, this is a children's book, you fucking muppet.
He gave it to me like eight years ago when we didn't have kids.
And I'm like, what do you think I do?
Because you're a child.
You were essentially a giant.
I didn't say that.
I don't think that it's much of a stretch for your friend to buy you a hard copy.
I could take a comic off the shelf right now of like somebody tearing off another person's head or something.
Comics are not just for kids.
Claire.
I've really hit a sore point.
But that's what's good about them because there's so much variety in I know. In what you can do with different characters.
I know.
They're amazing.
They're graphic novels.
They're very adult.
One time Bane picked up Batman and broke him over his knee.
Whoa.
His spine snapped like a packet of spaghetti.
That's terrible.
That's ironic.
I may pass it tonight for dins.
You certainly do.
For old dindins.
Okay.
Well, can I get back to my recommendation?
I guess.
Oh, God.
I exploded some kind of weird bomb over there of like,
I'm not really a child.
My job is a real job.
I didn't say that.
I didn't say any of that.
All I'm saying is our friend.
My job is a real job.
Is an idiot.
He's not an idiot.
Yes, he is.
Most jobs aren't real anyway.
I hate that Justice League dictionary.
It's really boring, but our son loves it.
Literally, it's just listing superheroes.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay. So the things that have superheroes. Yeah. All right. Okay.
So the things that have been really working.
Lunchbox.
So I pre-make in the morning a lunchbox, which I know some parents are like,
ooh, lunchboxes suck.
I've got one of those ones that's got little compartments in it
so you don't have to wrap anything because that's the bane of my existence.
Sure.
You just shove a whole lot of snacks in there because one thing that is annoying
about little kids, they can't make their own snacks.
And so when they're hungry, so often you have to keep going
to make the snacks.
But if you can pre-make all the snacks in the morning
and make it an activity with them, and then they can just go
to their lunchbox whenever they need to.
That's right.
So good.
And I put on my Instagram, but I talked about it last week,
that I'm doing pretend kinder.
You could do pretend school as well.
It's real fun.
You could do pretend anything. Lunchbox is part of that. You could do pretend school as well. It's real fun. You could do pretend anything.
Lunchbox is part of that.
You could do pretend stuck in your house because of a virus.
All right.
Well, anyway, I think that's kind of fun and that's the joy of little kids.
They've got that imagination that will go with you with that kind of stuff.
Okay.
Here are some other things that I reckon are lifesavers.
I love lifesavers.
There's a website called Storyline Online.
Have you heard about this, James?
I don't know what a website is.
I think you would really like it.
It's stories read by celebrities.
For instance, your favourite, David Harbour.
I do like David Harbour.
Yeah, you actually would like this.
It's not corny.
It's just lovely.
How do you know I like David Harbour?
What do you know about me and David Harbour?
I know you.
I know you love him.
You have a big man boner for him.
You've talked about him before.
For anyone who doesn't know.
That's just a regular boner.
It's not called a man boner.
It's just a boner.
Anyway, he reads.
That's sexist.
Pipe down.
Anyway, it's actually really great and the stories are great.
They mainly show the pictures.
The celebrities is obviously talking.
Yeah.
But they're doing it and it's really cosy and lovely.
So David Harbour reads Snapseed the Alligator.
There's Chris O'Dowd who's quite a fun, fun guy from the IT crowd
and he reads Arnie the Donut.
Yes.
One of my favourites is Harry the Dirty Dog.
I love that book and it's read by Betty White.
Oh, Betty White.
Who's just bloody terrible.
Every time I hear Betty White's alive, I'm like, that's amazing.
I know.
She's Golden Girls, right?
One of, I think. Pretty sure. Anyway, I love her. That's a hear Betty White's alive, I'm like, that's amazing. I know. She's Golden Girls, right? One of, I think.
Pretty sure.
Anyway, I love her.
That's a very, very popular show that I never watched.
There's a lot of like, oh, my God, the Golden Girls are the best.
I'm like, yeah, it's the best.
I love it.
I've never seen it.
I loved the Cosby show.
Oh, he's a rapist.
He's in jail for rape.
I loved that show so much.
I never really watched it either.
Fuck that guy.
Oh, well, he was seriously part of my childhood.
I loved that show. He was part of everybody's childhood except for mine.
Anyway, so Storyline Online, get on it.
It's really great.
The website's really awesome too.
They have really great pictures of all of the books
and there's just lots of really good quality kids' books.
So if you are tired and can't be bothered reading some stories
and you have some work to do, pop your kids in front of that.
They'll love it. They'll of that. They'll love it.
They'll love it.
They'll kiss it.
So other things you can do are virtual excursions, which are really –
I know they're not the same, but some of the websites actually are really cool.
I know James is like trying to poke his eye out with the corner of his glasses.
So you can go to the Louvre.
You can go –
You can go to the Louvre.
Go to the toilet at the Louvre.
A lot of different zoos have virtual things.
It's really cool.
And the museums as well.
So all over the world.
So in New York and everywhere else they have kind of virtual.
So you can walk down and be like, what's going on here?
Yeah, you can go and have a look.
And they're like 3D.
They have lots of cool stuff on their site.
So another really cool one I found was explore the surface of Mars
on the Curiosity rover, which is at accessmars.withgoogle.com.
And so you can actually go on the Curiosity Rover.
Accessmars.withgoogle.com.
Yeah, that's the website.
Why?
Because it's Google.
But it's at with?
Oh, no.
Let me read it again.
Accessmars.withgoogle.com.
I'm saying with.
I don't know what's happening anymore.
I had to go to my appointment today and I had to sanitize my hands 50 times
and then I talked to the receptionist behind glass 1.5 metres away.
Like you're buying a gun at a bank.
Yeah, it was ruined.
So virtual excursion is actually really cool.
And that also links in with Google Earth.
Google Earth is awesome.
You can type in any location. What's Google Earth? You know Google Earth. Yeah Earth is awesome. You can type in any location.
What's Google Earth?
You know Google Earth.
Yeah, I know.
So does everybody listening on this.
Oh, shut up.
Well, I'm just reminding people because people are tired.
It's fun for kids to do and you can type in like your own,
what are you doing over there?
We'll see in a second.
Okay, oh, he's doing that thing.
Anyway, he's so annoying with his phone.
Yeah, so you can type in like any location
in the world and you can zoom in and you can walk along the streets. Really, really fun and cool.
The other thing I found, it's coming up to Easter. So we're reading a book called Spots First Easter
by Eric Hill. It's really cute. It just has like a little spot Easter egg hunt in it. It's gorgeous.
If you don't have a copy, I'm sure you could also find a version
of it being read online.
And kids just love it.
Then you can do little Easter egg hunts in the garden.
You can hunt for actual eggs or you could go and hide pretend eggs
and then you can do lots of little counting games and colour recognition
and all kinds of stuff with the Easter eggs.
I'm ignoring you with your shark app.
I'm going to show you. No, this shark app. I'm going to show you.
No, this is important.
I'm going to show people when you're finished.
Good.
Anyway, so there are my little parenting ideas.
Here's another one.
There's certain animals that you type in, a lot of the common ones.
And so you type in shark, like I've got here.
In what, James?
In Google, Claire.
You just go down, you click on 3D, and then you find like a space,
and then that shark will appear in augmented reality in your room.
So you look through your phone and the shark is like it's in your room floating around like a shark.
And look, you can move it around.
It can get bigger and smaller.
I actually hate this.
Oh, really?
All of your suggestions were internet related, Claire.
And you hate my internet thing?
They weren't all internet related.
One of them was go to the toilet online or whatever you said.
No, virtual excursions.
Virtual explosion of weed.
What?
You're the bloody worst, mate.
I know.
Is that the show for the week?
Yeah, I think it is.
I don't even know anymore and I don't like you very much.
That's okay.
You don't have to like me.
You just have to live with me for the rest of your life.
Oh, very briefly, I wanted to talk about that Guardian article.
Have you heard about the Paris lockdown?
Yes.
Obviously, that is happening at the moment.
I have.
My sister was in Paris recently.
Something went around in your family's WhatsApp group.
Yeah, it's really cool.
The Guardian wrote, well, it's cool, kind of eerie, spooky,
sort of strange thing to happen.
It's ghost, is it?
It could be.
So the Guardian has written an article entitled
Paris Lockdown Leaves Streets Stuck in 1942 for Abandoned Film Set.
And basically what happened is in northern Paris,
two streets, Rue Bethay and Rue Andro-Y-
not how you pronounce it-
In Montmartre.
Probably not how you pronounce it either.
Perfect.
Near Sacré-Cœur, anyway, Basilica,
is left in a time walk of the Nazi occupation
for a film that was being made that's had to go into,
you know, obviously stop.
What was the film?
Because of the coronavirus.
The film was directed by Fred Cavella.
It's called Adieu Monsieur Hoffman.
It's an adaptation of an award-winning play telling the
story of Joseph Hoffman, a Jewish jeweler in Paris at the start of the war who is forced to hide in
the cellar of his shop as the Nazis take over the city. So there's obviously, it's a black comedy,
but a lot of the shop fronts have like the Nazi symbols. They've got lots of messages on them,
obviously being shut down due to the war and the occupation.
So it's quite a spooky thing.
A lot of people in Paris are locked in their houses looking out to what
resembles 1942 Paris.
Nazi occupation of Paris.
Yeah, yeah, which is crazy.
Yeah, and there's just kind of like crazy things written on the walls
that are actually quite sort of relevant now to what is happening.
Because there's Nazis.
Because there's Nazis, yeah.
Not that there is actually Nazis in Paris.
But anyway.
I'd imagine there'd be some.
There's a sign on a fake pharmacy that says,
Dear customers, because of a lack of deliveries,
certain articles are out of stock.
So it's an example of life imitating art imitating life, James.
Oh, my God.
It's almost like a shark in an app situation in a room.
Oh, that classic saying.
That classic saying.
Speaking of in-app, did you know people can review this show in-app?
You just open up your app and you can just click it if you're in your iTunes or whatever.
Five stars if you want, but obviously it's completely up to you. This is from Lady Meridon.
It says 10 out of five stars. Oh my goodness. If you're looking for a delightful conversation
between two people
who you wish you could be friends with in real life, look no further.
Claire and James always brighten my day and bring a smile to my face.
Very kind.
Thank you very much.
That is so kind.
I know.
Well, we got a lovely email from Chris Small,
and the subject line is, ha-ha, fantastic.
So he's really gone on board with your saying.
He says some really lovely things about us.
He makes Weekly Planet posters and he's in Canada, Chris Small.
I won't read all the lovely things he said about us because they're so lovely,
but I'll read them to you later.
Maybe alone.
No, I don't know why I said that.
You just winked at me.
I didn't like it.
I didn't like it.
It's really late here.
I'm tired.
Okay. So he recommends for James Iron Fist and Kung Fu Kicks. You winked at me. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. It's really late here. I'm tired.
Okay.
So he recommends for James Iron Fist and Kung Fu Kicks,
a doco on Netflix about the origins and impacts of Hong Kong martial arts films on other genres and cinemas in general.
The stars in the early film can still be clearly seen in all the movies
James talks about on his other more popular podcast.
The doco specifically focuses on the adoption of the kung fu genre
by marginalized and oppressed groups and cultures.
Oh, my goodness.
That sounds right up your alley.
So far up, it's probably called James Alley.
I'd love to visit James Alley.
James Alley.
It'd just be me going, get the fuck out of my alley.
Fantastic.
That's what it would be.
And for me, he's recommended Life After Life by Kate Axenson, who I love.
I think she's a great author.
I've read some of her other books.
Name them.
What?
Name them.
God something.
There's one called God and then the other one.
God something.
My brain doesn't work very well.
My brain doesn't work.
These are good ones.
And the other one I read was about the detective.
I read two and they're both about the same detective.
And he's like, I'm on the case.
I can't remember the names of them, but they're really good.
They sound terrific.
Oh, shut up.
Now I'm going to have to Google it.
No, you don't.
Colleagues will link them below.
I know, but I need to know.
Case histories.
That's what it was.
And also a God in ruins.
There you go. there you go there you go anyway going back to
life after life which i want to read because it sounds great an incredibly inventive novel about
the rather eventful life of a woman named ursula todds born in 1910 the story is told in an utterly
unique narrative fashion which is a bit difficult to describe at each each point in the book where Ursula is exposed to catastrophe,
we are whisked back a few steps in time to see how the story progresses
if her previous fateful choice was just slightly different.
Oh, my God.
It's like the movie Memento sort of.
Correct.
Exactly.
And he's also got a great link for Kids Sunday,
TV free activities you can do with your child.
Give me 10.
It's a book.
Oh, it's a book.
It's a book, yeah, by Steve and Ruth Bennett.
Ooh, all of these are great.
Thank you so much, Chris.
We really appreciate it.
Really appreciate that.
Those are great suggestions.
Thanks, mate.
And you catered to our specific needs.
And I respect that.
This guy is cool.
I also respect it.
He's also used your favourite couch phrase.
Which is?
Ha ha.
Fantastic.
You're ruining it. That's not how you do it.? Ha ha. Fantastic. You're ruining it.
That's not how you do it.
Ha ha ha. Fantastic?
No, Claire.
Fantastic. No, it's like this.
Ha ha. Fantastic.
I didn't do it right. Okay. No, you didn't.
Let me try. Let me try. Let me try.
Ha ha.
Fantastic-o.
I mean, that's the popular European version.
We're nearly hitting 40 minutes.
We really are.
All right.
That's everything.
So next week.
That's everything.
This again, I guess.
This is again.
So I've got to somehow squeeze in watching two Harry Potter movies
and the Fantastic Four 2015, which is a horrible film.
While reading every night Justice League dictionaries.
I was reading a Justice League book and looking after my kid every day
as long as doing work and workout videos and also all the metadata shit
you've got to do with like YouTube.
It's a pain in the ass.
And audio editing.
But at least I've got some wonderful editors.
Ben, Matt and Mitch, they're out there in the world doing good stuff.
Are they?
I don't know what they're up to.
Who knows?
You know what I'm quite enjoying about this?
And I know I'm in a very privileged position to be enjoying this time period.
Stealing my drinks out of the fridge. There are really hard things.
I'm very pregnant.
I know.
I'm drinking a kombucha.
I am very pregnant, though, to be fair.
So, you know, I'm allowed to find some glimpses of joy.
I would say you're selfish most of the time, regardless of you being pregnant.
But what did you want to say?
Guys, it's a long
time. What were you enjoying? It's a long time
to be married. What are you enjoying?
Life is long. It's only five years.
It's not even that long. People do this for decades.
We've got bloody, we potentially have
bloody like 80 years left. Get bloody less
for murder, am I right? Yeah, you would.
That's what I'm saying. That's the expression that people say. I'll murder you.
That's if you go to any wedding anniversary, the husband's? Yeah, you would. That's what I'm saying. That's the expression that people say. That's if you go to any wedding anniversary,
the husband's always like, your buddy got less for murder.
And if he doesn't say it in the crowd, someone's like,
you got less for bloody.
You know, if you murder your wife, you'd actually get less bloody time.
Are they the same people that like those Gaelic women that say that joke?
Probably, yeah.
Probably.
Okay, anyway, all I was going to say was there is one comforting thing
that I'm finding that you think about.
You know how you – anyway, you don't experience FOMO.
You don't like doing anything.
But I experience FOMO on a daily basis.
And being preggo, there's a lot of things I can't do
or like I'm too tired to do because I will just fall asleep.
But I have this like weird comfort about everybody that we know,
just all mostly unless they are going into work, just staying home.
Yeah, that's right.
And the good thing is when we have our kid in however many weeks
that is happening, our other kid that's happening,
everybody will be stuck inside regardless probably.
Correct.
You know, so thank goodness everybody will be as miserable as us.
Good night, everyone.
I'm leaving.
I've had enough.
He's left.
He's gone.
I'm leaving the room. Oh, all right. I'm leaving. I've had enough. He's left. He's gone. I'm leaving the room.
Oh.
All right.
I'll say goodbye on my own.
I've already left.
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