Suggestible - Lego, Draws and Doors!

Episode Date: September 9, 2021

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week’s Suggestibles:Trofast IkeaLego DragonsThe NewsreaderDoors in Games -... VoxTed or Ten HundredTonts!Send your recommendations to suggestiblepod@gmail.com, we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We can wait for clean water solutions, or we can engineer access to clean water. We can acknowledge indigenous cultures, or we can learn from indigenous voices. We can demand more from the earth, or we can demand more from ourselves. At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Bing bong, bing bong, bing bong. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Coke no sugar, Claire. Oh, sorry. What? I thought you were, isn't Coke Zero also a thing? Coke Zero was rebranded as Coke no sugar. Oh, God. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Because people don't like the idea. It sounded like a woman's drink. All right, I don't care. People were like, nice woman's drink. What? Well, it's the same as like, it doesn't taste the same, but like it's the same as Diet Coke. Diet Coke is like zero calories, but like men don't drink Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Oh, God. Well, it's total bullshit. Hey. I don't make the gender conforming rules, Claire. Right. Sure. I think we should just get started and stop banging on about soft drinks. You brought it up.
Starting point is 00:01:12 I never want to talk about it. Sexism is problematic everywhere, James. I don't need any more beverages. What about the Diet Coke ads where, like, there'd be a man outside in the scaffolding and he'd have his shirt off and all the women are like, oh, buddy, Coca-Cola time or whatever. I'd forgotten about that ad. I really enjoyed that ad.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I bet you did, Claire. And that's sexism. You're the problem. Oh, no. It was just the idea of someone cleaning my windows. Oh, my God. The dream. Imagine that, the dream.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Anyway, I'm Claire. James is here also. We are married and we recommend things to watch, read and listen to. How are you, mate? Wherever you're listening. Not you. I'm talking to the person who's listening to us. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:50 The one person. The one person. Yeah. No. How are we going? We're in Melbourne lockdown. It's a lot. That's not ideal.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I don't love it. No. It's not too bad though now the sun's shining. No, it's much better now. Yeah, the weather's getting better. Yeah, it helps not too bad though now the sun's shining. No, it's much better now. Yeah, the weather's getting better. Yeah, it helps, doesn't it? People are more vaxxed up, which hopefully will help. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Who knows? Who knows? What are you suggesting this week? Okay, hear me out. You're not going to like this recommendation. I've got one you're definitely not going to like. All right, it's really about someone getting murdered. Or that or a post-apocalyptic future. No, anything. You love the murder shows. You're like it. It's really about someone getting murdered or that or in a post-apocalyptic future.
Starting point is 00:02:26 No, anything. You love the murder shows. You're like it's a British murder. Actually, it's Norwegian, this one. Yeah. And it's set on a bridge and the bridge is over two cities. And it's gloomy. Actually, I was speaking to a friend recently about this phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:02:41 The reason why, particularly at the moment, and just women of my ilk age love a British crime TV show is because it's predictable and it's gripping. Because at the time of night when I watch television, I'm so bloody tired. I have to prop my eyes open with bloody toothpicks. Like when I'm talking to you. Hey, you're all boot. I'm bringing it back. It's during the day. I'm going to keep clapping. I like the I'm bringing it back. It's during the day. I don't like this show anymore. I'm going to keep clapping. I don't like this show.
Starting point is 00:03:07 It's rude. It's a rude show. I don't know if you ever liked it. It's true. But anyway, so I go on. Anyway, you do like me. So it's still like a familiar pattern. It's like a rhythm.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Correct. Yeah, exactly. And the thing that I love the most about it, unlike real life, especially at the moment, there's just an ending. And you usually find out what happened and who did it. And it's all neatly wrapped up in a bow. There's usually kind of a detective with a troubled past, possibly like problematic personal relationship.
Starting point is 00:03:32 He's so grizzled. It's either that or a woman who's like equally as like complex past and all the things. It's usually a dude. It's a dude and he didn't like he, the last case he did, it didn't go so well. And he's kind of a pariah in the community. No, they've moved on, James. It's a lot of women now. It's a lot of women.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I hope so. It's a lot of women detectives all with troubled relationships. Okay. Yeah, solving murders. Anyhoo. What is the show you're recommending? All right. Okay. It's not a show.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Oh. It is. It's an Ikea furniture. Oh, God. You picked the worst thing. Okay. I'm really fixated, listeners, at the moment. I don't know if anyone else is in lockdown, but we are in lockdown and all we're doing is staring at our four walls.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Well, I am. I don't even know if James notices what kind of bloody furniture is in our house. Probably doesn't. Sometimes he'll say things like to me like, that looks good, and I'll be like, that's been there for two years. And I'll be like, this son, this kid years and i'll be like this son this kid of ours yes correct yeah exactly and then i'll be like his name is squagden squagden and you know you did sire him that is of many moons ago technically sigh but it's good that you've noticed him now
Starting point is 00:04:40 i feel like that was possibly what happened 100 years ago and we're like, oh, there's another one here. Who are you, Blimpton? You know, those families had like 10 people in them. They needed to because people died so much. Anyway, so I know exactly what you're talking about. This is that drawers thing, that touch thing you bought. Correct, okay. So if, like me, you have small children and if, like me,
Starting point is 00:05:01 they have like an inordinate amount of toys that just are overtaking your house. Junk. In mountainous piles. And there's just tiny, teeny little bits of things that just exist everywhere. And your kids are like bowerbirds. They're just like putting little piles of crap all the corners of your freaking house and then you're standing on Lego
Starting point is 00:05:22 and then you've got like buckets of toys but they've got like miscellaneous weird things in them and sometimes you might find like a weird, I don't know, half an orange in the bottom of them or something and just like weird little stickers but also little vouchers and all kinds of paraphernalia and it's just taking over your life and it's really annoying because then your said child will do something like go, I really need this blue truck and I must have it and they won't do anything else until they find the fucking blue truck
Starting point is 00:05:53 and then you spend the whole frigging hour searching for this one thing that they decided that morning is the thing that they want. Well, I've got your solution right here. Is it a bin? I'll put you in the bin in a minute. Oh, no. I will.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I'll put you in there. No, you are so bored by this, James. But it is a set of furniture from Ikea. Now, I'm not always really into Ikea furniture. I think it's a bit squishy. It tends to wibble and then you want to chuck it away. Yep, and it's also like junk a lot of the time. Like, yeah, it's awkward to put together and it's just crap.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah. Well, and it's not that bad but it doesn't last very long. This furniture, however, is very sturdy. It is reinforced because I think it's designed specifically for kids and it's the Trofast brand. And my friend got me onto it, T-R-O-F-A-S-T. If, like me, you're into Pinterest, type it into your Pinterest. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:44 There are just like a thousand different, probably mostly women, R-O-F-A-S-T. If, like me, you're into Pinterest, type it into your Pinterest. Okay. There are just like a thousand different, probably mostly women, who have pinned a thousand different ways to use this furniture for hacks with their toy room. And my friend Laura, who has a wonderful blog called Little Apple Learning, actually, she's a former teacher. She's great. Well, is a teacher. She told me about it on a walk that we were doing, and it's bloody awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:05 So it is kind of, it's not even that hard to put together. They're timber structures and then you have sets of sort of opaque plastic drawers in them but they're at a low height for little fingers and hands and there's no wheels or any, there's no worry with tipping the thing over because it's very, very stable and because it's at kid-friendly height. There's no like moving parts within it like drawers. You could get like your hand.
Starting point is 00:07:28 No, no, nothing like that. They just kind of sit in these slots, which is really great. Then you fill the drawers up with the sets of things like the Duplo Lego and then this is the drawer for the cars and this is the drawer for the like little animal creatures. And because they're quite small drawers and there's a lot of them, plus I think it's around about $120 for each set, which I think is pretty reasonable.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And if, like us, you're in a pandemic, you can Google and order it online and iQ delivered it, which is bloody awesome. And it was a pretty easy assemble, wasn't it? Yeah, it's actually really easy and quite satisfying. You don't need a drill. As soon as I see a drill or something that needs a lot of drilling work my brain just shuts down i think it's a bigger scam on earth they send you a flat pack of junk that you have to put together yeah i know not that you ever put them together actually you do because i get halfway
Starting point is 00:08:18 through them and i think i can't do it and then you come and i go i'm a man and i come in and i go i've got a screwdriver then you sometimes stick the screwdriver up your bum. Sometimes. No, not really. That's unrelated. Yeah, yeah. That's for later times. You fall on a screwdriver once and then you never live it down. Your wife had to take you
Starting point is 00:08:38 to the emergency room and then you have to explain it was all because of the trophast I can't finish that. I feel bad for people who because your brother's doctor does experience this if of people coming with things stuck inside them. Yeah. And like all the excuses that they have, it's mostly like I fell on it. But what if you actually did fall on something and then you're just like, I know you don't believe me, but I literally fell on this bottle.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I didn't put this in there for pleasure. I had a naked wet bottom and I slipped directly onto this bottle. I had an oiled up wet bottom from a massage that I had. That must have happened because everything has happened to someone. I mean at least once. Yeah, totally. I mean I sliced a bit off my bum. You did?
Starting point is 00:09:17 I did when I was a kid. I was swinging on a swing set and there was in the backyard and it was someone's house and the cap had come off the handle of one of the swings. It looked like a seesaw swing. And I was swinging over the top of it and it sliced off a bit of my bum cheek. It had to get sewed back on. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It was real painful. I've had a lot of weird injuries. It's true. Someone pointed that out to me recently. I'm not quite sure why. Who knows? It's because you're dumb. Jeez. Here's something you've got to love.
Starting point is 00:09:46 No. All right. I think you just need to wear your glasses. Yeah, that's true. That's why I was so terrible at basketball. All your injuries are non-glasses wearing related. I know. I haven't quite finished my trofas talk.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Oh, sorry. Go on. I know you think it's a ton of boring. It feels over because it has been going for a very long time, but go on. Okay, the last thing I'll say, the last tip my friend told me about. You know those zip travel case things? People who are into this kind of stuff would know. They're like little bags with zips on them that you use to pack in suitcases
Starting point is 00:10:15 and separate things. Love them. Yeah, they're really great. I used to do them with just like Ziploc plastic bags. It's the best way to travel. Oh, not with Ziploc plastic bags. This is before, Claire. This is the before times.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Well, now these are way better, right, because they've got little zippers on them. Anyway, grab a whole set of those and then put the sets, the weird crappy sets of things from your kids inside those. Okay. Because then you zip them up and that means when the kids want to play with them, they don't just take out like all the things and pull it all apart. You've got a little bag they can unzip themselves because most kids can handle a zipper and then they can play with that, put it all back in,
Starting point is 00:10:51 and then it sits back in and you can layer them inside the tub. Ah, very good. So you can have multiple sets of something in the one tub. Amazing. And some of your issues solved. Look, I may not have solved global peace slash the pandemic slash all the other terrible things including impending doom. And we know that's what you've been tuning in for,
Starting point is 00:11:09 so we do apologise for that. Exactly. But I may have helped you with your toy room. And isn't that what this podcast is all about? It doesn't even have to be a toy room. You could use it for a kitchen. No, James, they're just for kids' rooms. You could use it for a man cave.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Oh, you know what? You could actually use it for a tool shed. That's what I'm saying. That would be quite useful actually. That's what I'm saying. Probably stacked on top of each other because they do look quite kid friendly. Here's a question for people and this might come up later on one of my things. We were having a discussion about how to store Lego and I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:11:44 just chuck it all in. And you're like, no, it should be color-coded. And I'm like, it shouldn't be. If anything, it shouldn't be color-coded because if you're looking for a specific bit, you're not looking for colors. You're looking for a. So I think if we are going to sort it, we shouldn't because it's insanity. Which we are.
Starting point is 00:11:59 No, because that's exactly. This is the thing, James. That is how the real Lego masters do it. No, that's the part of the fun of Lego, having a massive tub of Lego and you dig through it. You're like, ah, and you might be looking for a bit but you find a slightly different bit or whatever. So I think it should be, if we do sort it, which we shouldn't,
Starting point is 00:12:15 it should be by type, not by colour. All right, I think there are going to be a lot of people who disagree with you and Lego should be sorted into nice, organised, but I agree with you, maybe it could be bits or colours. I'm an artist, James. It shouldn't be sorted. I like to sort my Lego. Also, I just feel like at the moment that would be a nice task for me to do.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Big tub of Lego. No. Big tub of Lego. It's bullshit. I hate that because then you can never find anything and you rifle through it and then our son gets bored. Lego is just busy work. That's the point, Claire.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It's to distract kids for like as long as you can. Yeah, but it'll be easier to distract them if they have to like sort the Lego out and then you can make better creations. I'd be curious to know what people think about Lego, et cetera. Anyway, look, I was going to talk about Lego for one of mine, so I'll do that now before the one that you hate. So what we've been doing in lockdown with our son being homeschooled he um I don't know if we talked about this but he broke his arm last year we can talk about this right it was this year it was this
Starting point is 00:13:15 year oh shit what is years anyway so it was this year and so and it's his first year of school so he's kind of riding fell behind a bit because he had his arm in a cast for nearly a term, basically. He's fine. It all worked out and whatever. But so to work on his hand strength and that, we bought a few Lego Ninjago kits for him. The first one was a water dragon. The second one was fire dragon.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And the last one was some kind of tank that breaks into four different vehicles. The thing about Lego is like it's, you know, it can be for any age obviously but it's for children. Come on. Come on, Darren McDonald. You know who I'm talking about. Says the man that spent hours and hours building Lego with his son
Starting point is 00:13:58 and then like you had a dream about this type of Lego that you then went and built. It's true. And I had a solution that I dreamt about. But no, I'm just joking. I actually love Lego. And I say Darren McDonald because Martin McGowan, who you interviewed, has a room in his house dedicated to Lego.
Starting point is 00:14:15 He does specifically. He sent us a video that he made of it and you can put yourself into it. But there's no magical things in there. It has to be because he was like, oh, no, you can't put a pirate ship. It's a real city. My favourite thing about that is have we talked about this on the show? Probably, but let's talk about it. Yeah, is that, yeah, it's set out like a proper city
Starting point is 00:14:33 and there's like a bank and like a jail at an airport. And I'm like, why don't you put in an X-Wing? And he's like, no, you can't put an X-Wing in because it's not, it's a real world. And I'm like, what if you put in like a pirate ship? And he's like, no, it's like a proper community. And I'm like, you do Lego boring, man. Yeah, because there are literally no rules.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You're the kind of guy who glues your Lego together. Anyway, but that's the beauty of Lego is that it can be. Anything. Any version of it you want. Correct. So anyway, what's been really good for him is because he's basically, he does most of it himself. Like one of us normally sits there with him for some of it or not even
Starting point is 00:15:13 and he'll just work his way through the hundreds of levels of instructions that you've got to go through. This is not our friend Marty, by the way. This is our son. It's both. But it's really good for like hand strength and coordination and following instructions. And seeing as he has a handle on numbers, like one to, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:15:31 a couple hundred, probably further, it's basically him going step by step and putting it together and manipulating it. And it's been really good for his fine motor skills and hand-eye coordination and what's the word for like putting stuff together? What's the word? Creativity? Yeah, I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You know, when you're following instructions and whatever. There's a word for that, right? Cognitive. Cognitive something, something. Thinking, I guess. Yeah, but we've noticed the difference in everything from him doing this and it's been three sets and, look, they're not cheap, the ones that we got. But, you know, I was in lockdown And it's been three sets and, look, they're not cheap, the ones that we got.
Starting point is 00:16:06 But, you know, I was in lockdown and it's like, well, we need to have an activity, you know, for him to do that he'll enjoy and will be beneficial. And we'll put a pause on that for the moment because it's been quite a few. Because suddenly you started going, we're going to get this next. And they're like hundreds of dollars. This is like an every week thing. No, this is a mum and dad have nearly lost their mind thing.
Starting point is 00:16:25 What can we do? We'll just buy you a giant Lego dragon. But the way they're really set out is really good because I don't know whether it was like this as a kid. I don't think I ever had any sets like this. But they're in bags within the box. Uh-oh, that's our daughter. And you put them in order, like it's all in order
Starting point is 00:16:41 and it's quite easy to follow. People know this. It's Lego, obviously. Are you explaining Lego to us? Yes, what I'm just saying. Anyway, it's great. Okay, listeners, let's start at the beginning. Lego, a little tiny piece.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Well, I remember showing my class a video. Made of plastic. Showing my class a video of where Lego came from and it was, we might have to bring her in here for this episode. We might have to. It wasn't initially, initially didn't click together, which is sit together. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah, so I thought that was really interesting. That is so interesting, actually. Who made Lego? Mr. Lego? I have some family in Sweden or something. I can't remember. I'll try and find the video. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Anyway. That sounds good. Okay, I'll go grab her. Yep. You want to keep boring the pants of everyone? I don't want to do that. Nobody wants that. I'll pause it and you come back. We can wait for clean water solutions or we can engineer access to clean water. We can
Starting point is 00:17:32 acknowledge indigenous cultures or we can learn from indigenous voices. We can demand more from the earth or we can demand more from ourselves. At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. All right, done with your Lego talking? I'm always done with my Lego talking. Excellent. Oh God, I think you've officially lost your mind. The Lego's talking at you. My name's Lego and I'm red. My name's Lego and I'm blue. My name's Lego and I'm green and we're building a spaceship today
Starting point is 00:18:12 but we don't belong in the same tub because I think they should be sorted by colour. Anyway, you're a Lego anarchist. It's true. And I want to hear from people about what they do with their Lego. I don't want to hear if you've got a – How they sort it. Yeah, I don't want to hear any of your weird nerd Lego opinions. I reckon there are some people who really have got their Lego sorted
Starting point is 00:18:32 into serious piles. Well, my parents know, have friends whose son is like one of the official Lego distributors. So like you write to him and you're like, I need a 2B whatever, and he does that. That's literally his job, like sending people bits of Lego. That's kind of really satisfying in a way. It must be.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Like putting together IKEA furniture. We should watch that Lego Builder Masters show, whatever it's called. Yes, Lego Masters. I know everyone who's got kids has said it's just brilliant who they've watched it with and we should find it. Okay, my reco now. I love recos. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:19:08 This one is a television show. Oh, a television show. So a more, you know, traditional suggestible, if you will. I would argue that Lego is older than. Time? No, than television. Let me figure that out. Anyway, let's go.
Starting point is 00:19:22 All right. Okay. So my recommendation is an Australian TV drama called The Newsreader, created by Michael Lucas and directed by Emma Friedman. So Emma Friedman directed Stateless, Glitch and Tideland, which are also some really great Australian TV shows. I know you don't think Australian TV shows. I know those shows are good, but no, I have not watched them.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, correct. So this one is in six parts and it's available on ABC iView and I'm sure you could get it via a ExpressVPN slash style in other places. So true. Now, they've basically recreated a 1986 newsroom, which is kind of wonderful to live in the 1980s because the fashion is great but also it's just a simpler time.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Oh, totally. You know, there's no social media or anything. And there's no bloody, there's no woke culture, do you know what I mean? Yeah. Interestingly. You couldn't get cancelled or whatever people say. No, I mean, obviously.
Starting point is 00:20:15 You could just be awful and just walk around. People wouldn't do anything. Yes. Anyway, so obviously they do have a lot of sexism embedded in the show as a newsroom would have. And there's also homophobia obviously and one of the main characters is struggling with his sexuality and kind of hiding it from everyone.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It stars as the main character, Anna Torv, who plays Helen Norville who's this really beloved newsreader but is quite troubled in her personal life and is kind of struggling to get stories that she wants told out there, which I think. She's also from Mindhunter, the Netflix series. She's really good in that. Yeah, and she's great in this. She's really good at playing this really complex woman who's really highly
Starting point is 00:21:01 ambitious and wants to share stories that are more diverse from a range of different voices and more, you know, I guess for want of a better word, woke stories that just don't fit in the 1980s landscape. Now there's a character called Lindsay who's played by William McInnes who's kind of I guess, I guess, would you say like a. He's Rupert Murdoch. Basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:22 This isn't based on a true story but he is the kind of Rupert Murdoch-esque kind of. This isn't based on a true story, but he is the kind of Rupert Murdoch-esque kind of boss. Or a Kerry Packer. Definitely, yeah. Or I guess a Lindsay Fox. Correct, yeah, exactly right. Definitely a Kerry Packer.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Basically an Australian mogul, just a real piece of shit. With a big paunch. Yeah. And balding. Yeah, and just yells at everyone all the time and is quite sexist. But anyway, that's quite, Will McGinnis plays him really well. It's interesting, they've also got quite a diverse cast for this, which in the 1980s you would think it probably wasn't the case
Starting point is 00:21:53 that there was a lot of diversity within the newsroom. But in this particular show they've gone to cast it in a diverse way, which I think is really great. Anyway, so it's just a really great time. It's got a lovely kind of sort of warm glow about it, like you're looking back in history and, you know, things like they're looking at, you know, Hayley's Comet, stuff that was happening back then, like the first woman going into space.
Starting point is 00:22:21 When was Hayley's? Was that 83? It could have been, yeah. This is set in 1986. Okay. So maybe it was. Yeah. Cause I, I think I was alive, but I don't remember it. Yeah. Yeah. So it really. Also television is older than Lego. I apologize. Anyway, sorry, go on. Okay. That's really interesting. I didn't know that. I mean, there's like different variations of what was available and et cetera and so forth. The interlocking bricks actually came out in 1949,
Starting point is 00:22:44 which also coincided with like the commercialisation of television but the television is technically older as a form of technology. Please continue. All right. We've just detonated a nerd bomb over there. All right. Can I continue? Please.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Good God. Anyway, yeah, so it's just a really lovely watch. The storytelling is engrossing and well told and it shows that kind of tumultuous feeling of being in a newsroom where you don't have, I mean it would be even crazier now, but because there's no social media, the way that they get news comes in sort of so quickly and then they have to scramble around to get any kind of grabs for it to go live. And I guess that would be how it is now as well in a newsroom.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But they really get that sense of urgency and how precarious it is once the cameras go on and you're live and anything could happen. It's also interesting because they don't know a lot of what's going on because you're limited by the information you can receive. Correct. Which is now it's like you've got multiple sources and you've got people there who could be live streaming whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And then they do a lot of kind of like we're just going to fill for like 10 minutes or whatever. Actually, that is exactly what I was thinking just then and I couldn't put it into words because my brain's still functioning. Thank God I'm here. Thank God this is a two-person show. Thank God. But that's so true.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Like there's the thing where a comet is, they do a live cross to a guy who's supposed to tell them all about this comet that's going through the sky and then they get to the guy and just before they're about to go live he goes, oh, no, it's not coming on anymore today. It might come tomorrow. And they've set up like a beautiful choir to sing when the comet goes through the sky and they've done all these sort of news reports around it.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And you get the sense that if it was now, someone would have had that information a lot sooner. Yeah, absolutely. Like two minutes before they were about to go to air. Anyway, yeah, it's a lot of fun and there's no COVID in it. And that's what I'm loving at the moment, watching shows that don't have any mask wearing. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'm all for mask wearing. I just don't want to watch it on my television screen. Sure. So you hate the movie V for Vendetta, for example, because of all the mask wearing. Yes, I've always hated that. You hate the movie The Mask with Jim Carrey. Yes, I've always hated that movie.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Really? No, actually quite enjoyed it. You should watch it because it's not good. It sucks. We did it for a video. I'm like, I hate this movie. People are like, how dare you? And I'm like, no, fucking how dare you?
Starting point is 00:25:00 This is not a good movie and I will not stand for any of your shenanigans, quite frankly. So many of those movies have such problematic things in them when you rewatch. How did that get away with anything? How did they get away with that? That is true, but it's also just not a good movie. And that's not to put like Jim Carrey's performance down or anything
Starting point is 00:25:18 or like any of the makeup and special effects because all that is good. It's just like what if the guy who sucks was just really annoying? I would love to see that. Please show me that movie. Anyway. We've got that in a podcast format. Exactly. It's called Bloody Just Make the Thing.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Gotcha. Okay. Here's something you're going to love. It's from the Vox YouTube channel which do a lot of good in-depth reporting. Not always but every now and then. Do you know what I mean? They'll be like, hey, check this out. And you're like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Or sometimes they'll be like, check this out. And you're like, oh, okay. Or sometimes they'll be like, check this out. And you're like, ah, no, no, thank you. But this particular video was called, and you're going to love this, Why Doors. Yes. Open and shut. No clue. In video games are so hard to get right.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Okay. Oh, my gosh. And the thing about it is they're complicated. You think in a video game it's easy. You put a door in, you go up, your character opens it or whatever. But there's different levels of doors that you might put in a video game it's easy you put a door in you go up your character opens it or whatever but there's different levels of doors that you might put in a video game and this 12 minute video goes through the mall there's four levels and i'm going to give them to you now but you should watch the video okay collins will link it below what is happening here okay what is actually happening here the first option is no doors so for example you come to a door frame
Starting point is 00:26:23 there's nothing there so the character can just walk through it. There's no interaction required. Second one is doors that open automatically. So your character doesn't have to physically interact with it and they might just slide up like you might see in the game Halo, for example. Yes, I know that's what you're going to say. I wanted to get in just before that.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I've literally fallen asleep with my eyes open. The third option is where there's some slight interaction where you might, like, press towards the door, like, make a gesture and the door will flip open and the third is this gesture oh that's quite rude and the fourth one is where the character fully interacts with the door work walks up holds the handle turns it and has sex with the door and you can do that that's the thing is what you have to consider and i'd never thought about this in games, is doors not only dependent on like opening and closing, it's how the characters interact with them. If it's multiple characters and not just one,
Starting point is 00:27:11 if there's someone standing on the other side of the door, how does that affect the physics of the door? The door also often has to open and shut both ways because that makes it easy for interaction, which is not something a door does in real life. They also have to be slightly higher than a door frame would be in real life. So if it's a third person, the camera can follow you through the door and not get kind of stuck like towards the roof when you go through.
Starting point is 00:27:34 So all of these factors go into making a door and it's a nightmare to put a door in a video game. And I just never thought about it. And I'm like, that's very interesting. And I can tell by the look on your face that you think it is also very interesting. And you're writing me a note. You're holding it up.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It says, James, I love what you've done here and I have so much respect for your opinions and what you bring to the show. Thank you for writing that. I really appreciate it. Oh, and she drew a little love heart around it. It's perfect. Anyways, that's the show. I have to say.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Doors. How about snores? Whoa. Actually, full disclosure, I really didn't think I would find any of that interesting and most of the time I didn't. But I kind of do. You know why? Because, James, I'm really interested in just make the things.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah. And I always find those tiny little things when someone's making something, it kind of makes me feel better because I always used to think that, like, I hit against all these stupid little problems and it was my fault because I just wasn't good enough. No, it turns out making a thing is basically just coming up against a whole lot of bullshit little tiny problems. Yep, exactly. That you have to solve one after another. That have to solve one after another what i'd love for you to do also you started and you're not
Starting point is 00:28:50 gonna believe this everybody the game breathe of the wild zelda breathe of the wild yes i did oh no it's breath of the wild but um because you loved ocarina of time as a child and you're like maybe there's something you can play with our son and you started playing with it and you're like oh my god this is the best thing i've ever seen but you're also like is this violent should i be playing this with my son and you're really at a conundrum because it seems like you're swept up in the world of hyrule but you're wondering whether or not this is the game for you at this point in time anyway it's a great game apparently i'm really excited to play it but i'm just torn because the first, I was really into it while I was swimming and getting apples
Starting point is 00:29:30 and doing all the bizzo, riding a horse, but then I had to hit this big red goblin with a stick that I'd collected myself. And while if I was alone I would have been like, I'm hitting you goblin, I'm hitting you man. So loud. I'm sorry. I'm an angry woman stuck in a bloody video game of my own making. Not really.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Choosing. I don't know. Choosing. And I would have done it. But my five-year-old son is there and all I do is tell him how much I don't like fighting. And you were like, you didn't tell me there was fighting in this game. And I'm like, he's holding a fucking sword on the cover of the box, Claire. Yeah, but I thought that was for like slashing branches.
Starting point is 00:30:05 That's what the game was. He played Ocarina of Time. He's got a sword and a horse and all of those things. Yeah, I know. But that game is so, again, I haven't played it, but that game is so much more than just fighting. There's exploration and cooking and any point on the map that you can see you can technically get to.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Again, I haven't played it, but people love it. Yeah, and see, I think I will. I thought I would go back to it. The problem with me is with video games is that I just like to do that stuff in real life. Oh, well, you can't right now. I like to go swimming and I like to go walking in the bush and I like to cook.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Life is a real video game. So why would I do that on a screen when I could do that in person? However, I can't really go everywhere all the time so maybe I should. Why would you watch a murder mystery when you could murder a person in real life? You know what I mean? Yeah, but that's the thing. Why read a book when you could eat a book?
Starting point is 00:30:53 I don't know. You know what I mean? I'm tired. Yes, I know. Okay, I think, you know what, I'm going to play it this week. Your dismissal of the art form of video gaming is quite frankly embarrassing and naive, quite frankly. Oh, okay. Are you right gaming is quite frankly embarrassing and naive. Quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Oh, okay. Are you right there, quite frankly? Is that your name now? Are you calling me quite frankly? Well, my grandfather's name, whose name wasn't Frank, was called Frank. Like it wasn't his real name. People were like, this guy's name is Frank. And I'm like, why?
Starting point is 00:31:24 And they're like, I don't know. And I'm like, it's weird that his name is Frank, don't you think? But his name's not really Frank. And everyone's like, I don't know. And I'm like, nobody wants to explain any of this. It's not even a nickname. My other grandpa, his real name was John. People called him Jack. And I'm like, why?
Starting point is 00:31:41 And they're like, oh, it's his nickname. And I'm like, it's not a nickname. It's just a different name. I'm like, why? And they're like, oh, it's his nickname. And I'm like, it's not a nickname. It's just a different name. I'm not against that. You can change your name. But what is the story behind this? Nothing apparently. It's just what they called him.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I don't get it. I don't understand. Just a different era. What's your name? Frank. Is it really? I don't know, whatever. I actually went and was teaching with a woman at school who told me that,
Starting point is 00:32:07 that she had to find her birth certificate to get her passport and her name was Helen, not Mary. What? And she didn't know. See, that's what I'm talking about. And it wasn't until she found her birth certificate. I find that really amusing. But it's like a nickname I get, but just like another name.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, it's got like Helen and Mary. There's no connection there. Don't get it. So what happened? They call her Helen on the birth certificate and then they're like, let's call her Mary. There was probably another person who went to that church who had that name so they just renamed them or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I don't know what people used to do. Yeah, and didn't think about doing it in documents. It's wild. What's your name? Frank. Is it? Exactly. Except if I'm doing anything official.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Frank, you've got a letter, but it says James on it. Well, no. Yes, my name is James, but why am I calling you Frank? That's true. His name was James. Or was it? Anyway, I don't know. Not that it really matters, names or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Anyway, let's wrap up the show. What are we doing? Exactly. Okay. I've got an email. If you would like to email the show at successfulpod.g whatever. Anyway, let's wrap up the show. What are we doing? Exactly. Okay. I've got an email. If you would like to email the show at suggestiblepod.gmail.com, we would love to hear from you just like Pub Sociology has. Oh, good one.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Good name. Hello, Claire and old boot. Ha-ha. What? I know. We're brogging it back. Hope you guys are well and handling your various lockdowns as best can be expected.
Starting point is 00:33:21 No. Probably not. No. Here in the States, we are just pretending like everything is okay while the world continues to burn. Yeah, the numbers are not looking very good. I hope you guys are doing all right. I know I do too, sending you lots of love.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I'd like to thank you guys for all of your great content that has gotten me through a pandemic, the completion of a PhD, and a harrowing but successful job search among many other wildlife events. Very good. Anyway, I wanted to share my current suggestible, which is a YouTube channel of an artist called Ted Hundred. Ted Hundred? Sorry, Ted Hundred.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Ted Hundred. He started out as a. So his real name is Ted Hundred, but his name's Ten. Yes. No, no. Anyway, Ted Hundred. I've got it. I've opened it.
Starting point is 00:34:00 He started out as a muralist, but now does all sorts of other types of work. Most recently he set out to design his own deck of playing cards and has been documenting the process and collaborating with his audience through a series of YouTube videos. Custom cards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy is good people like you guys. Super wholesome, positive and inclusive.
Starting point is 00:34:17 He just this week launched the playing cards on Kickstarter and was worried about hitting the 10K gold for the project to be successful. He hit that in the first three minutes and has gone on to pass $1 million in a little over 24 hours. Oh, wow. I know. It's been a great watch. It's always good to see nice people succeed.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Anyway, thanks again for all you do. Send my love to the podcast, Doug. Will do. We totally will. What was that song, Jaden? Jacob. Jacob. Are you a hard of hearing?
Starting point is 00:34:44 Jacob. Your name is now Jaden. Quite. Are you a hard of hearing? Jacob. Your name is now Jaden. Quite frankly, you're hard of hearing, Frank. Quite frankly. All right. I've got a review here because people can review the show. They can even sneak in a suggestion if they want, and it really helps the show.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Were you looking up at our James Bond No Time to Die poster? Yes, I do. It's the only thing in here. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so the story behind it is the movie keeps being delayed, so it's a running joke on our show that No Time to Die keeps being pushed back. And the joke is like James Bond now has plenty of time to die, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:35:11 and so forth. We do different versions of it every week, every time it comes out. So that calendar is a constant reminder of the James Bond film, No Time to Die, hitting cinemas 2021 maybe. It was supposed to come out last year and then they had to release this calendar 16 month 2021 character that mason released do you like how we haven't actually hung it up we just propped it up on yes this is this is my thing you do not do anything with anything in this house everything is just propped up in piles yep i even i'll have you know took
Starting point is 00:35:42 the goat puppet out of our cupboard and put it in this studio. Very good. Because you don't notice. Anyway, continue. Right, done. Quite frankly. Quite frankly. That's hilarious, by the way. Thank you. It's not my fault. It's just that I've actually just closed this review and I didn't mean to close this. I'm going to open it back again. Is that all right? Do you mind? We've got all the time in the world, apparently. We've got no time to die, that's for sure. I've been watching some James Bond movies at the moment. We're doing them next for Caravan and Garbage.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It's quite sexy. He's a sexy man. He's supposed to be sexy. Do you not know that? Yeah, the first time that that came out, the one with Craig Craggle, I really enjoyed it a lot. I recently re-watched it. It's a fucking great movie. Yeah, I really loved that one. It's my favourite by far. So good. I remember it came out because I always nevered it. It's a fucking great movie. Yeah, I really loved that one. It's my favourite by far.
Starting point is 00:36:25 So good. I remember it came out because I always never really got into the Pierce Brosnan-esque. No, we revisited them and some of them are okay, but that one is like insane. Yeah, I remember my mind was blown. I just thought how good is it? And the lead, who's the female lead? Yeah, she's bloody awesome in that.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Yeah. And heartbreaking and it's just really good. Should we watch it? I really should. Maybe I'll do that with all my oodles of time. I can't. I'm busy. I'm playing Zelda.
Starting point is 00:36:51 That's true. You're committed to another dumb thing. So I don't have the name of this review, so I apologise, but it says always a pleasant time. Sorry if the title comes off as condescending. That wasn't the point. It's true, though. Listening to this pod is always relaxing and fun.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I'd call it relationship goals, but James would probably hate it. I would hate that. Well observed. Thank you, that person. I can't get this app to open to find the name. So I apologize. Truman JD. There we go. I found it in the end. Excellent. Thank you, Truman. That was so lovely. All right. Please review the show. And that has been the show. Thank you, you don't have to anymore, but everyone else has to. Thank you. And thank you, as always, to Royal Collings for editing this show. And, yes, we come out every Thursday.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You subscribe, do all those things. We would love that. Also, Tons, my podcast, comes out every Tuesday. Who are you interviewing this week? So last week I interviewed the beautiful artist Claire Bowditch, who is a wonderful singer and also memoirist of Your Own Kind of Girl. If you are looking for a present for someone, Your Own Kind of Girl is a great present if you have someone in your life that likes that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:37:56 It's a gorgeous memoir. And I interviewed her. And then this week I have a chat with a friend of mine who is now a vice principal and we just talk about homeschooling and what the bloody hell to do. What do you do? What do you do and some of the worries and how to get through it. So that's it.
Starting point is 00:38:13 That's that for this week. Great. Bye, everybody. Thanks, Colleen. Bye. Hi, I'm Jessie Cruikshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb.
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