Suggestible - Pilot Episode

Episode Date: June 29, 2019

Pilot episode. Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetontiFollow the show on Instagram and Twitter @suggestiblepod or visit www.planetbroadcasting.comThis week's Suggestibles:I Am Mother (Netflix)The Dry, Force of Nature and The Lost Man by Jane HarperBoy Swallows Universe by Trent DaltonDavid Tennant does a Podcast with Olivia Colman Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I'm just trying to put my way through this podcast. Don't start a podcast by doing that. It's no good. All right. So this podcast is all the things that we are watching and doing and listening to and things. Yeah. You had the really good idea that we both consume a lot of stuff in our lives because we have more time at home than the regular person does. We just live at home with our dog and our kid.

And I spend a lot of time editing and half watching things or reading things while I do that. And every now and then something grabs your attention. It certainly does, James. And also because we have a lot of time at home together, we often talk about them. And this is the easiest podcast we could do without having to do a lot of research. Yes. Now with my other podcast, which some people may be aware of, the Weekly Planet podcast on various platforms. Not many people.

Some people. Such a big deal. You're such a big deal. Thank you. Finally, someone said it. But we have a segment called What We're Reading, What Are We Going to Read, which is basically things that we've looked at. And this is a good way to kind of expand on that and talk about things for a little bit longer because I know people often want to hear kind of more in-depth thoughts on things that have been watched or read or whatever, but we don't really have the time to get into it.

Correct, in Mr. Sunday Movies. What are the other things that you're looking and reading and watching? One of the two things that I do in my life. That's right. Exactly. Those two things, yeah. So we only have two things that I do in my life. That's right. Exactly. Those two things, yeah. So we only have half an hour. Yeah.

Time limit, James. It's short, sharp. That's good. I like it. Yeah, cool. And then we want people to send us recommendations of their own. Yeah, absolutely. On Twitter at?

Mrs. Sunday Movies. And Mr. Sunday Movies. You should change that. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm such a feminist. I didn't even change my own name, but I'm shameless when it comes to self-promotion, and I will steal your name.

I don't know. Anyway, I'm usually on Instagram. I'm usually on Twitter. This is boring. Let's jump straight in, sir. Yes. All right. You go first.

Are you sure? Yeah. Gentleman's first. Is that the rule? All right. I'll take that. Now, look, this is kind of an easy transition from a thing that, you know, I would probably normally talk about, which I haven't.

Netflix movies are hit and miss for me. There's some good ones like I quite liked Always Be My Maybe. I recently watched that Adam Sandler, Jennifer Aniston one that, like, 30 million people watched in the first four minutes it was out or whatever. Really? Why? It's not bad.

It's fine. Like, I'm not a huge fan of most of his movies. No. But it's kind of, it's fine. It's got a good cast. Like, it won't change your life, but there's some good stuff in it. Really? Yeah.

Because I see Adam Sandler and I immediately turn off. He's not without talent, though. That's the thing. I think he has been, and like, his recent stand-up special was apparently quite good. And he has been a good comic, and he has made good movies, and he can act. Yeah, The Wedding Singer, classic. Yes, exactly. But he's done more serious stuff as well.

Like Funny People goes for a thousand years and it's not a great movie, but he's really good and if you whittled it down. Anyway, that's not what I'm talking about. Anyway, he's good. I think he's good. Like he just makes a bunch of crap with his friends for a lot of money.

And why not? If people are going to throw him money, good luck to him. It's interesting that you would not be judgmental of someone making money from hanging out with your mates. Yeah, and just making crap. Yeah, that's right. But Netflix does a lot of kind of mid-tier sci-fi stuff, which is kind of like okay stuff. We watched that one, I think you fell asleep, where Anthony Mackie is in a balloon and the

world's ending and there's a woman who's trying to make the air breathable on Earth. I can't remember what it was called. Yeah, I genuinely fall asleep in most things. It's kind of middling. But I recently watched one of the best movies I've seen this year and that was I Am Mother, which we actually watched together. Yes, we did. Yeah, this kind of thing is right up my alley, like, you know,

like a weird dystopian future and robot AI and like depressing scenarios. It's literally all of the things that you love all in one film. It really is. It's kind of like if you've ever seen Ex Machina, it's a bit of that. Have you ever seen- The movie Sunshine? Yeah, a little bit like that.

10 Cloverfield Lane, which I don't think you've seen because it's all set in a bunker in the future. But for those who haven't seen it, I'm not going to spoil it here. It's about a woman who, or a girl who's raised by a robot, by an AI. And the AI, it's an all-female cast as well. It's got like Hilary Swank. The woman's name is Clara Rugged Larson. She's new-ish, I assume.

Rose Byrne is the voice of the robot, but there is a dude in the robot suit, so I guess it's not all of the female cast. Yeah, for the girls and the one dude. And the one dude, yeah. He probably couldn't breathe for the month that he had to wear that suit. But the robot is voiced by Rose Byrne. Yes, that's right. I thought her voice sounded familiar.

Yeah, that's it. And look, it's harrowing and there is kind of twist upon twist, but it's not, well, you's it. And look, it's harrowing and there is like kind of twist upon twist, but it's not, well, you saw it. It's not, it doesn't seem to be trying to trick you. It's just like the natural progression of things is kind of, and the way it plays out is really interesting. I found the end scenario kind of conflicting, but kind of hopeful, but kind of devastating.

It's this weird blend and you kind of, I've kind of thought about it a lot and I'm like, no, I think that's maybe best case scenario, I guess, for this particular world, I think. Yeah, but it's kind of stuck with me and I've been wanting to go back and watch it. Anyway, what did you think? You saw it. Yeah, well, I kind of didn't want to see it because as you often do, you show me terribly, horribly confronting films and I used not to do that anymore. And I used to quite enjoy it. And then I kind of get angry at you halfway through when it's too terrible.

I think since we had our son, I just get really depressed about things. So, or like Black Mirror. I like to think you've always been depressed about things. Yes. Since being married to you. No, not really. I enjoyed it a lot things. Yes, since being married to you. No, not really. I enjoyed it a lot, though. Oh, good.

I really did. And I was glad that it wasn't super graphic or anything. No, it wasn't, was it? No, and I liked the pace of it, even though it's really not got very many sets. Most of it is set in one spot, really. And I think partly I liked it so much because I really liked the lead actress. Yes.

She was really good. Yeah. She was really great. She's a little bit older than she's supposed to be in the movie in real life. I think she's like early 20s. But you wouldn't know that. Like she plays it really well. Yeah.

Really, really well. Kind of great. Really kick ass but also quite vulnerable. Yeah. And that thing that happens in film and books and everything that we always talk about, the choices that she makes are all choices that you think you possibly could make or would make. Yes.

You know, the thing that annoys me the most when I see a film is when a scenario is set up, however outlandish, and the character makes choices that you wouldn't make. Yeah, absolutely. It's like frustrating. Like, why would character makes choices that you wouldn't make. Yeah, absolutely. It's like frustrating. Like, why would you go into that dark room? Or not even what you wouldn't make, what they wouldn't make. Because people can make mistakes, obviously, in movies, but there needs to be like a justification for that particular action.

Yeah, exactly. And I just, I really could see her thinking throughout the film and why she made the choices she did. And then the choices that she makes at the end of the film and you understand why she made them and you can see why she did. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Hilary Swank's great too. She's really good.

She's always great. Surprise Hilary Swank appearance. Yeah. I would say don't watch any of the trailers if you haven't. If you like those kind of movies that are mentioned, then I think you'd probably like this. The other thing, I didn't realize this until after I was looking into it, the director Grant Spitor is a Perth filmmaker in his first-time film.

Oh, really? So, yeah, that's really, really impressive. It's super impressive. Anyway, we've got to move it along. We've only got half an hour. We do. Goodness gracious. What have you got?

All right. So, yeah, I really do. One other thing I just wanted to mention about that film was the face of the robot with the sliding. Oh, yeah, right. It's hard to kind of, because there is that uncanny valley. We don't have time to get into it. But it's a good design. Yeah, it's a good design.

Okay. Moving fast-paced along. Let's move along. All right. My recommendation, the first one, is the author Jane Harper, James. Okay. I've been reading a lot. I've been reading because I'm more cultured than you.

Well, look at you. Yes. So cultured. You definitely read more than me. Yeah. Well, you read a lot of comics. We'll get to that in a second. That doesn't count.

Well, let me tell you what does count. Okay. I don't know. The Dry by Jane Harper was her first novel. Jane Harper is an Australian journalist journalist and she's been a journalist for a really long time and I thought you might really like her backstory as well as the actual novel. So The Dry and then also Force of Nature and The Lost Man,

they're her three books. They're all set in sort of rural Australia, so in the outback or in farming country during the drought. And she manages to really capture that essence of being remote and what it means for you as a human being living on kind of the fringes, I guess, in that way. Because we've both done quite a bit of that. Yeah.

And you really get a sense of the scope of the Australian landscape in her novels. Barren. Dry. Boring. Nothing as far as the eye can see. You'll die. Everyone's losing their mind a little.

Everyone is, yeah. And I think we nearly, can't we sort of do too. What was interesting about all these is they're thrillers really and sort of mysteries, like crime mysteries. Is it like small town stories? Yeah. Is that the idea? Yeah, yeah.

So the central one, the one that she started with, The Dry, begins with a murder. And so she likes to put all of the kind of backstory, this isn't a spoiler because it opens the novel. A family is murdered in a fictional town called Kiowara, which is in regional Victoria. And it kind of centres around the town and the families there are quite drought stricken.

So there's a lot of kind of tension within the community anyway. This family is murdered. The whole family. The whole family, yeah. And they're all trying to figure out who it is. And then there's a central kind of detective who is an outsider But grew up in the town and comes back And he's kind of a great protagonist

He gets dragged back in He does, he gets dragged back in for reasons unknown He thought he got out but they got him Yeah, it's pretty much that And so he's a detective in the big city now But he has to come back in and he's kind of hated by the whole town And the reason why kind of unfolds. And it's somehow connected to the murder of this family.

Right, okay. So it's really, really interesting. It's become sort of like a phenomenon, this book, has sold crazy worldwide. What was it called, sorry? The Dry. The Dry, yeah. We'll link all this in the bottom. We will.

Yeah, we will. I'm starting a document with links already. But what I thought you would find really interesting. We'll see about that. Well, I think so, is Jane Harper herself, the author. Yes. So not only are her books really gripping and page turning, but she only started writing novels in 2014. So The Dry was her first and became like an international bestseller. She's written three in like five years. Yeah. Oh, wow. And the way that she does it is what I thought you would find interesting.

We'll see. Yeah. Because she basically had always had this idea for a novel and she was a journalist and wrote a lot for newspapers but had always wanted to create a novel and then decided one day, well, effort, I'm just going to start. So she signed up for an online writing course where you had to put in a synopsis and the opening chapter of the book. And so she did that to submit to join the writing course. And then because she got accepted, then she had to do it. She only had a short timeframe. She had like 12 weeks or something. And so she treated it like a job.

So at the end of every day, she had an extra hour. She'd come home from work, still in her work clothes, sit down at her desk and write for just an hour. That was all she had. Then she'd take her work gear off and then go and watch Netflix. But that's how she wrote the whole novel. And because she had to submit chapters to this online writing course and she was, you know, pregnant when she wrote her second one. She did the same thing there, but she was working full time at the time. And it kind of reminded me a bit of how you did the podcast yourself. When I was pregnant. When you were pregnant with the podcast, the weekly planet.

No, because you would work full time and then come home and then work again. Yeah. And because she was under time pressure, she just had to get something out. She said really. There is something about that. Infinite time kind of gives you infinite again. Yeah. And because she was under time pressure, she just had to get something out. She said really. There is something about that. Infinite time kind of gives you infinite excuses. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? And you just, every day it kind of rolls into the next.

Yeah, boy, does it. And suddenly you're staring down the barrel of 50, having never achieved anything. Not that I'm looking at you, James. Claire's 49, everybody, just so you know. She looks great. Hey, you always confuse my age. I'm 30. you, James. Claire's 49, everybody, just so you know. She looks great. Hey, you always confuse my age. I'm 30.

I don't even know. I've convinced Claire she's a year older than she is over years. I think it's 33. But you've kind of incepted this idea over time. You do that. Yeah. You're two years younger than me. All right.

So you're 34. No, I'm 30. Okay. I'll have to look it up like i was born in 1935 33 my friend yes i'm 33 34 very soon just because you look as old as time that's true but that's only my hair and face and body presumably anyway back to jane harper and then we'll move along yeah so that's how she did it and now now that she's become like an international bestseller, she's got herself an office.

There's nothing on the walls. She goes there every day, nine to five, and she's just got a laptop. That is it. And it's not connected to the internet. There's no Wi-Fi. She doesn't bring her phone. She treats it like a job. How does she go on Twitter and Snapchat and Facebook and Instagram?

Oh, look, I know. How does she do it all? I don't know. And Tumblr and Vine. And TikTok. TikTok. And is there another one? TikTok. TikTok is her favorite. And Vero. Look, she has an internet cafe down the road that she goes on to Vero.

Okay, good. I was going to say, yeah. Well, that's the all-important. Because there is so much stuff to consume or that you can consume. Yeah, I can see how there'd be people out there who would never do things and that's a fear of mine like you never make anything because you just get caught in this loop of just watching and reading stuff yeah he says on the podcast exclusively divided to that yeah to that but i just i really liked her business-like approach to it yeah and

she said she was really clinical in the way that she sets up her chapters as well. And you can see that in a lot of bestsellers. It's really obvious, but it's still great. Did she write an outline or did she just kind of go? No, she wrote an outline. Right, okay. Yeah. So she said she didn't treat it like a kind of heartfelt, from the sky, imaginary, like

absorb herself in the writing. She was really clinical. She wrote the synopsis and then she would, at the end of each chapter, cut off deliberately three or four paragraphs so that it was... track every trip on the live map in the Uber app. Uber teen accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See app for details. Would finish on this really kind of cliff edge. Oh, right. So it's a page turn and that's, that's what the dry is. It's a great story. Like the Da Vinci code. Yeah, it is. It's genuinely like that. But better probably. But it is much better because the description of the landscape and her research is so in-depth.

So she really kind of captures the beauty of the scenery. How many ways can you say, look, the land just went everywhere and it was just dry and there's water somewhere, I guess. Yeah, well, you'd be surprised, James. You can see the shimmering on the horizon. This is why you have not written a best-selling novel because she's great at it. That's true.

Anyway, I would highly recommend that. Her second book, The Force of Nature, is about a big group of people who go on a team bonding exercise and one woman disappears. So, it's in like the bush and they're supposed to go camping for three days. Right. That's my nightmare, a team bonding exercise. Yeah. It is. I would go missing. You would hate that. They'd be like, he's gone. And then they do a search party and then they realize, oh, no, he's been at home for like four days.

It's for some kind of like accounting firm or something. Yeah. So you would have hated that. That sounds right. Yeah, so a woman goes missing and then it all unravels. And then the third one, The Lost Man, is about, this is terrifying, set in the outback. It opens with a guy who's found dead purely because he's been left, he left his car and it's the outback, it's 40 degrees

in the middle of the Queensland desert basically. Yeah, like minimum. Yeah, so you've only really got a couple of hours before you die of thirst because it's so hot out there. And he somehow gets separated from his vehicle and they find him just dead at this place called the Stockman's Grave and his brothers find him. Okay. So they're all farmers out there on these massive cattle. And he would know better than to leave his car.

Yeah, absolutely. And they find his car and this is not a spoiler because this is in the first, the prologue. They find his car completely stocked with water, food, supplies, because they all know out there if you get stuck, that's it, you're gone. You know, extra petrol, there's nothing wrong with his car. And his car's only nine kilometres away. So he feasibly walked and left his vehicle, even though he knows better and he's found dead.

And it's clear that he died on that spot. Yeah, he wasn't moved. From dehydration. No, and you can see his struggle. Because at that point you go mad with thirst. So it's clear he kind of writhed around in like a circle over this one spot. And then it unfolds. Okay.

So I would highly recommend that. Moving right along. I think that, is that it? No, 17 minutes. God. 17 minutes. All right, let's do it. You're like, this is dragging on forever.

No, no, I just didn't want to go over. Okay, so I've got like seven minutes. Okay, good. All right, this is actually a book I read over the summer holiday in Australia. 12 minutes. So what did you say? 18 minutes. No, what did I say, seven minutes?

Yeah, or half of it. Yeah, because half, Claire. But I'll probably do it in less, all right? All right. Because we probably have to do a wrap-up at the end and be like, Hey, hit us up on all our socials. No, yeah, we don't have any socials. Maybe we will.

Maybe we will. Yeah, so this is also an Australian author. It won't be all Australian authors and directors, I'd imagine. We'll only exclusively. This is called Boy Swallows Universe by Trent Dalton, who is, again, a journalist, and this is his first-time novel. It's basically about a boy and his brother who grow up in a, what's the word? Town? a boy and his brother who grow up in a kind of, in a,

what's the, what's the word? Town? No, they grew up in like a small, like Western Sydney suburb and kind of a poor neighborhood. And it's basically about their kind of growth together. It follows him from like childhood all the way up to when he's a young adult when he dreams of being a journalist for this,

for this big newspaper. And on the way there's, there's kind of elements of kind of mystery and magic, but they're very kind of toned down. And there is that sense of's kind of elements of kind of mystery and magic, but they're very kind of toned down and there is that sense of like, is any of that even real or is it a coincidence or are they going mad or whatever? But it's basically a crime story of this big crime boss that's in the community and is a huge part of Sydney,

like in the upper and lower suburbs. And it's essentially, you know, because of this family, he gets caught up in in drugs and he loses family members but because he kind of has no kind of standing in society there's not he can't and he's a kid there's he can't really it's about him kind of growing up and kind of dealing with these situations and then kind of getting a little bit of power and kind of unraveling the truth and all these kinds of things and trying to expose this situation and it's really great and i think trent dalton was uh I think he wrote like crime,

he was a crime journalist. I don't know about that specifically. Do you know that? Have you heard of him? I certainly don't. Yeah. Look it up. I think you recommended me that book though before you'd read it.

Like you said, you should read this. So it's apparently very good. And I went, yeah, yeah. And then I Googled like good book to read and that one came up and I did end up reading it but yeah no i'd highly recommend it and i i don't read as many books as i i would like to i like i do i read a lot of comics because i like comics but also because of um my particular job but it was nice when we're on holiday to kind of sit down for a few days and just and not edit

anything and just read a book i'd kind of almost forgotten how to do it which is embarrassing because i used to read a lot as a kid but you know it'd kind of almost forgotten how to do it, which is embarrassing because I used to read a lot as a kid. But, you know, it's kind of you really get, you sit down and you focus and it sounds ridiculous, but it's a skill to sit there for that long, if that makes sense. Yeah. I think partly because I- That sounds embarrassing, but yeah.

No, I reckon you're not alone at all. I think people often say that. Dave Warnicke from Podcast Booksheets said that too. Because I think our brains are wired now to just absorb things fast and our phones are kind of flashing at us. And I'll do like an audiobook or whatever as well. I don't have any problem with that because that's good if you're doing chores and whatever, but it was nice actually. So yeah, so I recommend just reading a book that you enjoy. Yeah, I actually bought that on paper and you have it on your Kindle.

I didn't know. I'd forgotten you had it, so I bought it on Kindle. But I've also lost my Kindle at the moment. Oh, no, I found it for you. Did you? In a drawer. Yes. I looked for it and I found it.

Good. Thank you. You're welcome. I recommend having a partner who will find you things. Agreed. Especially for your you. I'm really bad at losing everything all the time. Anyway, what have you got, though?

What's your final thing? I just wanted to say something about Boy Soliders Universe very quickly. I'm really bad at losing everything all the time. Anyway, what have you got, though? What's your final thing? I just wanted to say something about Boy Slayers Universe very quickly. It's got a little bit of magical-y elements to it, too. It does. Did I say that? No. I'm pretty sure I did.

Maybe you tuned out. There's bloody headphones on, Claire. I'll tell you this much. You don't even bloody listen. Yeah, maybe I didn't say that. I hear you talking all the time. Yeah, that's true. I like your voice. I was looking at your cute face.

Thanks. You're welcome. Anytime.. Yeah, that's true. I like your voice. I was looking at your cute face. Thanks. You're welcome. Anytime. You look so awkward now. Don't embarrass me in front of my podcast. I will. I'll embarrass you any day of the week. It's part of my charm.

Okay. The Boy Souls Universe. Excellent recommendation. Okay. My next one is one that I've talked to you about before as well, but I thought I would bring it up because I really enjoyed it. I've been listening to David Tennant Does a Podcast. Oh, I've heard this is really good.

From you, I think. Yeah. Yeah, and I love David Tennant. He's great. I know, Doctor Who and all the things. Good Omens at the moment is a really great show on Amazon Prime. Oh, I haven't watched that. What's that about?

Well, we don't have time. Maybe I'll talk about it next time. We do. We've got eight minutes. Okay, it's basically about that. What's that about? Well, we don't have time. Maybe I'll talk about it next time. We do. We've got eight minutes. Okay, it's basically about, it's the apocalypse and there's an angel and a demon and one of them's David Tennant and the other one's the guy who always plays Tony Blair. And it's kind of, I don't know if you've ever read like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and things like that.

It's in that kind of style. It's like universe ending and it's all serious and whatever, but it's also like crazy and wacky and stupid and nothing makes sense. A bit kind of The Good Place as well. It's probably a good and it's all serious and whatever, but it's also like crazy and wacky and stupid and nothing makes sense. A bit kind of The Good Place as well is probably a good way to kind of. Oh, I like that. But it's only six. And Neil Gaiman wrote it with Terry Pratchett, I believe, who is an author who died a few years back.

And it's just going to be one season. It's like six episodes and then that's it. Anyway, sorry, what were you saying? No, that sounds really good. It is really good. I have a few good omens. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. You feel rushed by this time limit, I feel.

It's good, though. Okay. Just bloody get on with it. Okay, I'm getting into it. No, not you. I meant it's just good to get on with it. But you specifically bloody get on with it. David Tennant does a podcast.

He's a podcast where he just interviews people that he's friends with, but he happens to be friends with all these massive celebrities. Olivia Colman. Correct. So the first one he does with Olivia Colman. The other Doctor Who's probably. Yeah, Jodie Whittaker he does. So the one, the first one I listened to is Olivia Colman,

who I love and if you don't know, she's a British actress. Brilliant. She stars. She won the Oscar. She did for The Favourite. Yeah. Which we saw together on a beach holiday. We did.

In between book readings. Yeah. Yeah, correct. And it was brilliant. In between book readings. Yes. Yeah, correct. And it was brilliant. Very dark but hilarious and amazing. Yeah. And great. Olivia Colman is just so funny.

She's a comedian. I didn't realise she was so comedic because the first time you were here. Yeah, because she's in like Spaced and she's been around for ages. Yeah, so long. Shaun of the Dead. Anyway, so gone. And it's kind of how she crossed over from comedy into serious acting, actoring.

Yeah. But she's just gorgeous and cheeky. And hates being famous. Yeah, really hates being famous and does it because she just loves the work. Yeah. And so I'd highly recommend listening to that one. She is just, I think because they starred together in Broadchurch. I've got to watch Broadchurch.

Oh, you haven't seen that either. No, I haven't seen it. It's a BBC murder TV show. It's quite old now. There's three seasons of it. Jodie Whittaker's in that as well. This isn't a spoiler because it happens at the very start. There's a boy who's found... You keep saying

that. I know. I do keep saying that. There's a boy who's found dead on a beach and he's clearly fallen off a cliff. There's been a murder. Yeah. That's literally the whole thing. And Olivia Colman and David Tennant investigate. And David Tennant's your typical gruff policeman with a heart of gold.

Typical. Typical. He's always angry all the time. And Olivia Colman isn't a comedic actress in this at all. She plays it pretty seriously. Yeah, she does it all. Yeah. Yeah, really brilliant.

So just such a lovely listen when two people are friends. Yeah. As opposed to just being like an interview. Yeah, which can also work if you're a good interviewer. Yeah. Yeah. Or it can be a bit rambly. But I really enjoyed that one.

And there's another one where he interviews, who was married to Ben Affleck? Oh, Jennifer Garner. I've got the list here of people he's interviewed. I just brought it up. Olivia Colman, Whoopi Goldberg, Ian McAllen, John Hamm, Catherine Tate, James Corden, Tina Fey. Like there's some great names here.

Yeah, it's huge. Anyway, Jennifer Garner, sorry. Yeah, I feel like I listen to quite a few of them. I like Jennifer Garner, yeah. Yeah, I really like her too and I don't think she does a lot of interviews that often in that candid kind of way. They're sitting on her couch after a few yeah. Yeah, I really like her too. And I don't think she does a lot of interviews that often in that candid kind of way. They're sitting on her couch after a few wines.

Yeah, right. So you kind of feel like you're getting a secret kind of back. Does she talk about their marriage and things like that? No, they don't talk about their marriage. They do talk about the kids. They talk about Ben Affleck's back tattoo. Have you seen that? No.

You just Google it later. If you haven't seen it You just Google it later. Everyone, if you haven't seen it, just Google it. Okay. Why? Is he losing his mind? He's had a lot of problems, but his entire back is basically a full back tattoo of a colour phoenix rising from the ashes. Oh, Jesus.

Oh, no. Because it's not like a thing you go and you get a quick smiley face. This is like months. It will take months of pain. Anyway, it doesn't matter. And it's a phoenix rising from the ashes. Just like Ben Affleck. That's right.

That's terrible. Anyway, she seems just really normal and great and she's known for her work ethic. Yeah. She works incredibly hard and she mainly talks a lot about Alias because that was kind of her breakout TV show. It was a huge show, yeah. Well, J.J. Abrams did a lot of that, who now does like Star Wars and everything.

And she talks about how Alias is like, they had no idea. It was just another show. Yeah. And that was sort of optioned. And it kind of just looks like another show. I get it. It's a spy, but she puts on a disguise and dodges lasers or whatever. Exactly.

Yeah. And they took a chance on her because she was very green, really. Yeah, she was pretty young. Into the role. And the studio really had to be convinced to make her the lead. I think that works, though, for the show because you're not like, I know that actor from a thing. I think that's, yeah.

Yeah, and just the way she talks about the schedule was just punishing. Because she's a dancer by trade as well. Oh, right, I know that. So she had to learn martial arts and she does pretty much all her own stunts in that. Oh, okay. And insane stunts where, you know, I know that Angelina Jolie was quite known for doing stunts or her own stunts. Salt.

Wanted. Yeah. There you go. You know all those ones. I don't really know. Your brain is like a palace of useless facts. Thank you. Thanks. No worries. Anyway, we of useless facts. Thank you. Thanks.

No worries. Anyway, we're nearly finished. Two minutes to go. Yeah, and so it's just really interesting to hear back when, you know, women weren't really known for doing their own stunts, they did all of this crazy stuff because she was kind of an unknown actress. Yeah, right. And she worked like 18-hour days.

She barely slept. She just like – it was just this crazy, crazy adventure she went on. And she wasn't even, she told this story how she didn't even really know how famous she was. She just one day went to the shops and then just got like mobbed basically. Yeah, right. Yeah. And just because she hadn't been out for so long because she was working 18 hour days. Yeah.

Think about how long that is. It's like crazy. So that's kind of gorgeous to listen to. So I'd recommend that podcast. I've got to listen to that show. I really like David Tennant. Yeah, I would recommend those two to jump in first. The Ian McCallum one was quite interesting, but it kind of waffled. Sometimes it's waffly because they're friends of his. He doesn't kind of keep them on track. Not like me with you in the show.

Sure. Keep me accountable. Any other recos before we finish? No, we have to wrap it up. Let's have an end of the podcast. All right. Oh, I just want to say one more thing. I recommend a tea cozy for your teapot because it's winter. I recommend using a kettle. No, but I'm in the studio and there's no kettle out here.

That's a fair point. I used to say. I recommend buying a kettle, buying a second kettle. Oh, yeah, I could have it, but there's no water tap. That's a good point. I recommend getting water installed. No, we've only got 30 seconds left. Okay.

Yeah, you can find Claire at Mrs. Sunday Movies, but more importantly on your Instagram. Yeah, I really don't use Twitter very much anymore. I just use Instagram at Claire20. Yep, and I'm Mr. Sunday Movies across all platforms. Hello. What are you bloody up to? What are people doing?

It can be anything. Like it can be food. It can be a restaurant. It can be a fun time. It can be a book. It can be a memory you've had. Tell us about. Tell us all your memories, your childhood memories.

No, tell us stuff that you're doing. So if it's like reading, watching, listening to stuff, but also, for instance, James is really into his fitness and he's got fitness recommendations, I feel. If you want to be miserable. At some point. Eat well and don't drink. Yeah.

Or eat no sugar or bread. Though I made that cake with coconut sugar and you've been smashing it. I've been eating a bit. Yeah, you've been eating a lot. I don't know if that really counts. Well, it does. Delightful. All right. This has been us.

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