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Episode Date: October 29, 2020

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Listen, this week, the spookiest time of the year. And I'm not talking about bloody's great. Listen, this week, the spookiest time of the year, and I'm not talking about bloody tax time. Thank you. I appreciate that. Is that really the first time you've heard me say that? No, I've heard it a thousand times. All your jokes I've heard a thousand times, and that's because, dear listener, if you're new to the show,

we are married. I am Claire. James is over there. And this is our annual, and as I say annual, it's our second one we've ever done. That's annual. Spooky episode because it's Halloween. That's right.

Though I'm not sure how much actual Halloween-ing is going on in different parts of the world. Well, yeah, I know, particularly with the whole of our, I mean, I guess our lives are one big Halloween. Oh, my God, Claire, you've really held a mirror up to society. The year 2020 is just one long Halloween. By that I mean we're not all dressing up but we are wearing masks. That's so true.

And you know what? It's like in society you have to wear masks every day, you know what I mean, in a different way. You do, you do. I mean you never leave your house but if you did. Why would I leave my house? You would have to. I can get things delivered to the house and then instantly regret it when I open it

and go, oh, what are these? I know. That seems to be the theme of 2020, doesn't it? Ordering things online and then worrying about the packaging. Oh, my God. Recycle bin's out of control, man. I just don't know what to do. I know.

I don't know what to do. Oh, gosh. And also, feel free to yell at us if that's our biggest problem for this year. Bloody hell, we're doing all right. Yeah, feel free to yell at us and that's our biggest problem for this year. Bloody hell, we're doing all right. Yeah, feel free to yell at us and tell us how we're doing it rough. We'd appreciate that. Yeah. Anyway, would you like to go first or can I go first?

Whatever, man. You can go first. All right. Full disclaimer, I hate this. Okay. Because I get spooked really easily. You know this about me. I already am on edge.

I'm already freaking out. What's the spookiest movie you've ever seen, do you think? I don't watch many spooky movies. Or even show. You're going to laugh at me about this. I bet I am. Because it's really corny. I reckon the scariest one I ever saw at the movies was The Ring.

The Ring is scary. It's bloody terrifying. It's not just scary. It's so bloody terrifying. I didn't sleep for weeks. When I watched The Ring the first time I think it was like, I hired it. It was on TV. I can't remember. I hadn't seen it. I heard it was like scary. And at that point

horror movies were like, because this is like the early 2000s. It was like Scream and like Freddy Krueger's and whatever. And then I saw that and it fucking freaked me right out, man. Did it really? Yeah, it's really unsettling.

Oh, that makes me feel better because I thought you were like immune to all violence. No, it's not just the scares. It's just a very unsettling movie. And maybe it doesn't hold up because I know it's obviously been replicated a lot since. But, yeah, that was a very, like, upsetting movie. He's just taking his jumper off.

That's how upset he is. It is hot. And it's a remake. It's a Japanese film. But, yeah, Naomi Watts, other people, the guy from Talk. Naomi Watts plays Tara very well. She does. She's really, really good.

She's got Tara on her face. Yeah, she does. And she's quite ephemeral or something. Oh, like a spooky waif woman. Yeah, she is. And something about the sound in that film and the way the fly was buzzing and then at the end the woman, the child that comes out of the well and with the hair.

Oh, gosh. Anyway, did you want to talk about The Ring? The Ring, sorry. No, no, because I can't talk about it. It's too freaky. What's the scariest movie you've ever seen? That'd be one of them. And it kind of took me, caught me off guard because I was in my late teens

and like I didn't really. Oh, you were cool, James. Yeah, I was cool, James. You were cool, ironic James. Cool, ironic James. With your like long fringe. And so I didn't. And his dyed red streak.

Yes. And I didn't really, like I didn't know, I just kind of walked into it, kind of not knowing what to expect. And I can't think, I'm sure there are other examples, but I'm not really, I don't normally get like kind of scared by stuff that much. Yeah, you're like immune. It's not even that I'm immune. Also, I don't watch that much horror stuff really.

Like I'm not really a horror guy. Like Mason and I recently, we watched Freddy versus Jason. We did a commentary, big sandwich whatever so like you know I think they're fine and whatever but I don't actively seek them out, I'm not like a I'm not a horror movie buff What is it that people actually get out of horror movies?

I think it's like an adrenaline rush it's like you're scared without being an actual danger But why would you, I just don't understand I think people like, because it's like you're involved in it. Because you can't, you get immersed. Like if you're invested in the characters and the situation, you're kind of drawn into it.

You know what I mean? And they can be fun. Like I've got a couple that I want to talk about today that are really fun. All right. Okay. Well. Anyway, sorry, you were saying. Anyway, well, I do.

Have you ever been to see a horror movie with me in a cinema? Because I have stopped. The Meg? Yeah, that's the closest we got to horror because I have stopped going to the cinema to see them. I don't think so. But I also don't generally see horror movies at the cinemas because I don't rush out. But that would also make a difference. That would probably, I think it would definitely add to the experience when you're locked.

Because I remember seeing The Others and that was like the whole atmosphere of a theatre and I watched it later at home. It's just very different. Yeah, see, I can't go to theatres to watch scary movies anymore because I literally jump out of the chair. Like to the point where, and then I yell. And I'm like, no, don't go there. And I forget because I'm so immersed.

I've been like that since I was a kid. What about A Quiet Place? That's sort of a horror movie. Yeah, so that's what I was going to talk about today. Okay, yeah, let's talk about that. Yeah, cool. Did you know that? Did you see me researching?

No, no, I just remember you said horror movies we saw together and we saw that together. We did, yeah. Well, that was probably one of the only ones I've seen at the cinema. And that's not even like a strictly horror movie. I'd say that's more of a suspense. Not that it matters. The line is like blurred.

But anyway, sorry, go on. It is, yeah. So A Quiet Place is directed by John Krasinski. People might know him from he did that movie about football with George Clooney. Yeah, that's how it is. No, The Office. What are you talking about?

Yeah, he's in that. He's in the football one as well. Leatherheads, I think it's called. Anyway, it's about a family who struggles for survival in a world where most humans have been killed by blind but non-sensitive creatures. They are forced to communicate in sign language to keep the creatures at bay. And I think the reason that John Krasinski was drawn to it in the first place and the reason why I've seen it because I really deliberately don't watch horror movies

is it's such an interesting way of creating a film and I think the family relationships are what carries it and the fact that most of the film is actually silent. Yeah, there's a lot of, yeah, ASL. ASL, is it called? Sign language. Sign language, yeah. It's probably called a different thing in different.

It is called different things in different places. But, yeah, it is. Here we call it. And the called different things in different places. But, yeah, it is. Here we call it. And the daughter is deaf in real life. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So the actress, whose name is Millicent Simmons, plays Regan Abbott, who's deaf in the film, and she is, yeah, she's been deaf since she was a baby, the actual actress.

And there's some really, really great scenes where they use sign language to communicate with each other, which I think is just awesome in general. I know you didn't love it. You don't think it's that. I like the characters more than I like the execution of the premise. Yeah. Like they're like, why not just move next to the waterfall?

Why not live next to the waterfall? Yeah, that's true, I guess. Because they do, there's a real, a tragic scene that happens at the very start of the film and then the family is forced to kind of go and live in this house where they've kind of set it all up so that the creatures will attack if they hear sound. So they have to learn to live completely silently. And that's interesting. I do. All of that, the way they set the house up, the way they have to learn to live completely silently. And that's interesting.

I do. I think all of that, the way they set the house up, the way they live their lives is really interesting. Like the way that's thought out. Like, for example, they don't have cutlery. They kind of wrap everything in like lettuce to eat it. You know what I mean? Like stuff like that because it's silent.

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, and they don't wear shoes everywhere. They don't wear shoes. I mean, I know they're laying down sand to walk everywhere as well. I'm like, that's insane. That seems like a nightmare. Yeah, but that's all because you hate sand on your little precious little feet. I'd be fine with it if there were big goblin aliens.

I like the alien design in it as well because they're kind of like almost like tarantulas. They've got that kind of like feel to them the way that they move. There's a funny fact actually, which you probably know because you're the old movie buff over there because all you do is watch movies, you've got square eyes in your face. Yes. Or something.

That's what they used to say. That's what they used to say. They call him Square-Eyed Jimmy. My mum was always like, you watched too much TV. My mum was always like, yeah, well, you did. She doesn't know what she's talking about. Look at me now. Look at me now.

Oh, Lord. Look at me now, Look at me now. Oh, Lord. Look at me now, Mum. I'm a sad, square-eyed man. Yeah. Limited with grey hair. Well, I'm currently editing a video on Star Wars Bounty Hunter, a game I played in the early 2000s, and I'm like, yeah, I probably spent a lot of time on that.

What a waste of time. But now I'm like, look at me now. I know. It still is endlessly frustrating to me that I spent so much time being annoyed at you for playing video games and now it's your job and I have no leg to stand on. No legs. Well, to be fair, you should have been right. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, I didn't go out on a limb there like complaining that you played too many video games. Anyhoo, back to A Quiet Place. Fun fact, John Krasinski actually plays the alien in a suit. Like a mocap suit. Yeah. Does he? I did not know that.

Oh, really? I got you. I didn't know that. I can never get you with these kind of facts. And what's kind of interesting is that when they did the test films, they hadn't finished the CGI. Oh, so that's just him lying. So, yeah, in some of the – they couldn't figure out why in some

of the scenes the audience kept laughing and they were worried that maybe it wasn't landing properly. Oh, okay. But they realised it's because you can see him just like occasionally popping through. In like a ping pong ball. Yeah, yeah.

So which would kind of really make it hilarious. One of the reasons I wanted to talk about this is like a really frightening movie to me is I think it has one of the most frightening scenes for me ever, which is when Emily Blunt's character is pregnant in a lot of the films. Oh, yeah. And she has to give birth in a bathtub while the creature, and this is a tiny spoiler but not really, is trying to, you know, is sort of creeping up around her and she's not allowed to make any sound,

obviously, because that will draw the creature to her. And so she's sort of giving birth while trying to stay silent and it's terrifying for lots of reasons mainly because I find birth really terrifying anyway. And then the idea of this monster and I don't do well with like suspense and jump scares and there's a lot of that. Yeah, I don't like jump scares either. I think they're mostly cheap.

I think they can be executed well but, yeah. Obviously I just don't like jump scares either. I think they're mostly cheap. I think they can be executed well, but yeah. Well, see, I just don't like them because jumping, I get scared. Yeah, well, I also don't like them because of that. Because it's like, this isn't Boo! Yeah, you got me. Sorry, Lisa. I think it's, no, but yeah, I think on the whole like, you could pick it apart all day.

Because it's obviously not a bulletproof movie, like plot-wise. But I do. I just think it's so interesting. I do like it. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I don't know that you sound all kind of. No, I like it. I do. I mean it made a lot of money for a reason and there was that year of like there was that and it might have been the same year

or the same time and then there was Bird Box which was like you weren't allowed to look. Oh, with Sandra Bullock. Sandra Bullock. And she's rowing the kids in the boat. And that was kind of whatever. I found that terrifying. I actually watched that too.

I did find that terrifying. People doing the bird box challenge, do you remember? Oh, that's right. Blindfolding themselves and driving cars and shit. Oh, man, that was a time. Yeah, it certainly was. Back when we weren't all so less scared. Do you know that this film, A Quiet Place,

made people less likely to buy popcorn? Yeah, no, I like that there was this idea of how you had to go into it. Like you can't go in munching and crunching because it's literally like a silent experience for the most part, obviously. And that's I think what's also really interesting about it. And John, because he's my friend now, John. John, your friend John. The first cut of the film was completely silent because he wanted it to work as a completely

silent film. I think it probably would. Yeah. Well, apparently if you mute it, it still does because so much of it is done through like, you know, the emotions and actions of the story. It's subtitled, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Yeah, subtitles.

Yeah, absolutely. And in the first original script, which was done by Brian Woods and Scott Becks, it only had one line of spoken dialogue. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean, obviously it had the sign language. Was it, oh, I'm being eaten by all these aliens. It was just Emily Blunt's character. I'm serious. It was just Emily Blunt's character giving birth going, fuck.

Just one long word. Excuse my French. No, but it ended up only having 25 lines of spoken dialogue. Okay, yeah. Which is still not very much. Yeah. Yeah, so interesting. I like that it was a, yeah, it was changed the way people went to see it too.

I like that you recommended this incredibly popular film that everybody's seen. Oh, well, pipe down over there, movie buff. I don't see many bloody horrors. You made me do this. Anyway, over there, movie buff. I don't see many bloody horrors. You made me do this. Anyway, over there, go for it. I just wanted to say like this year it was supposed to, the sequel was supposed to come out in March and to preserve the theatrical experience they pushed it back

very late in the day, like it nearly came out. It was maybe a couple of weeks away. Yeah, so now it's been delayed until next year and then who knows when that will specifically be. But yeah, I'd say it's a good chance it could end up streaming at some point. Oh, there you go. Interesting. All right. I've got some horror movies that I recommend that they're on Netflix. One's called The

Babysitter and the sequel is called The Babysitter Killer Queen. And I never heard about these until recently the sequel came out. And so they're teen horror comedies directed by Mukerji, who I don't normally love as a director. I'm not a huge fan of Terminator movie. I don't really like the Charlie's Angels stuff. But he has done some things that I do like. Anyway, this star, Samara Weaving, who you might know as the, she's the niece of Hugo Weaving because she's Australian.

Yep, yep, yep. Judah Lewis, Emily Aileen Lind, Robbie Amell, who people might know from CW. Does he smell? Not according to his Wikipedia, but so anyway, the lead in it, who I really like, Judah, he plays this kid called Cole and he's picked on at school and he's nerdy and he's kind of an outcast and he's about, I think he's probably about 13, 14 when they shot it.

So he looks like a kid. He's not like, you know, like a 20-year-old being like, I hate school or whatever. Yeah, like the OC. Like the OC, exactly. Which is just like 25-year-olds being like, I'm 15 and I'm a teenager. Yeah. But he's got this babysitter played by Samara Weaving who looks after him,

you know, after school or whatever. And he's kind of a bit old for whatever but she's really cool and they watch movies together and hang out and she teaches him how to stand up for himself and all these kinds of things. But anyway, and this is a slight spoiler but I recommend if you like movies like Home Alone or Scream, this kind of falls into that kind of category of movie but it turns out that she's using him

and with a group of other people to perform a satanic ritual to, I think it's for everlasting life or something like that. So it's essentially and then it becomes a whole group of, like, teenagers, like older teenagers trying to kill him in his neighbourhood and he kind of home-alones it. And it's very gory. Like, there's a lot of, like, really brutal and accidental and intentional deaths. And what really works for of like really brutal and accidental and intentional deaths.

And what really works for me is Samara Weaving and Judah Lewis. Those two leads are really, really great together. Like she's really menacing but also really charming. And he pulls off like this, like being a kid actor really, really well and he's quite endearing. And the sequel picks up a couple of years later and nobody believes this thing that happens to him or whatever and then things resurface and the cult reappears and whatever and it takes place on a boat

and in the wilderness and whatever. And I don't think it's as good also because he's older so it's kind of loses a bit of his charm because he looks like, I mean, he's older. Yeah. He's not this like little kid anymore. But as a pairing of movies, they're quite good. Like I think they're real. I never heard of them.

The first one came out in 2017 and it completely passed me by. It wasn't on my radar at all. And then I saw the new one came out and people were talking about it and then I started it and I'm like, oh, shit, I think I've missed something. And then I realised that there was this other movie that came before it. And they're great. They're really, especially the first one, really fun. Yeah, if you like, again, it Yeah, again, it's like more Scream than it is something like The Ring,

for example. It's more that kind of vibe, like tongue-in-cheek and pop culture references and stuff like that. But it's also very, very outlandishly gory. Yeah, see, I don't know if I can answer that. Kind of like Sam Raimi would probably be, who did the Evil Dead movies and Spider-Man. But, yeah, but that's kind of got that kind of vibe.

But get into them. They're good. They're on Netflix. It's so funny, isn't it, that horror movies, like there is so much the trope of the babysitter, isn't there? Yeah, yeah. In all kinds of different ways. Well, yeah, normally it's like the babysitter's murdered or whatever.

That's often the case. Yeah, exactly, and the phone rings. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, but normally it's like the high school teen girl like, you know, getting murdered but she's the one like doing the murdering and running the cult. It's really good. You should watch it.

Yeah, and surprising. You've really outstaged me on the indie horror film. It doesn't feel like an indie movie at all. Like it doesn't star like indie actors or anything like that. I just missed it. 2017, though, we would have had like a two-year-old at that point. Oh, God. I'm not really surprised.

We would have missed a lot of things. I missed a lot, yeah. Yeah, we could have had a teenage cult living in our neighbourhood. We wouldn't have even known. Totally. We were so bloody tired, mate. You're not wrong. Yeah, they could have murdered us.

Unlike now when we're so fresh. No, we have a six-month-old baby. Oh, my God. And a five-year-old. The worst thing about having like a six-month-old, and to be fair, like she's really great and really easy. She's an amazing baby. And she's really calm and like she's chilled out and whatever.

But not that our first one wasn't. Well, we wasn't, but that's the whole thing. But it's still like you've got like a baby to look after. You know what I mean? And just the idea like we're just getting this like our first one to school and he's come all this way and now it's like, oh, I've got to do this again. Like another kid. Yeah, there's a reason why people do it closer together.

I've got to teach literally everything. So, yeah. Yeah, do it all over again. I know. I mean, and she's awesome. And for us it's worked really well having the big guys. Oh, yeah. We wouldn't have done it if we didn't, you know.

Yeah. But it's, I know, it's just, and we were just kind of getting along. I think the trickiest part is now everything in Melbourne, because we're in Melbourne lockdown, but this, like, literally yesterday they came out to say that everything could open up well in a COVID normal, whatever that means. But everyone was so thrilled and excited about restaurants and bars and pubs opening up and all this stuff.

And I for a minute was like, oh, yay, woo, maybe I'll book it. Oh, we have a baby. We can't leave. We can't leave. We just did that point where she's not quite old enough yet to kind of leave her with anyone. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so our lives are fairly similar.

Though I am leaving, I'm going on Sunday for a drink, remember? I'm going into the city. You did, you told me that. Just to clarify, you need to stay here for that so I can go and drink. You said it to me and as if I was going to be like, no. Oh, I know, but you don't want to be like, hey, I'm off. You need to kind of tell each other what's happening like days in advance. Yeah, exactly, to kind of pre-prepare.

But I'm very happy for you. It's very exciting. I'm very happy for you too. I am catching up for brunch, I think. Oh, good. Yeah, at some point I should let you know. All right, that's the Star Lives we're just talking about. How boring.

You're taking the kids though, right, when you go to brunch? Yeah. No, I am taking the baby. Oh, yeah, because you've got to show her off. Yeah, I've got to show her off. Like no one has seen it. That's the other strange thing. So many of my very close friends have never met my baby.

What a weird time. I'll tell you this though, if any of those friends are listening, she just looks like a baby. I thought you were going to say, well. Regular baby. Yeah, weird time. I'll tell you this, though. If any of those friends are listening, she just looks like a baby. I thought you were going to say, well. Regular baby. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, she does. I thought you were going to say something like, I'll tell you this for nothing.

She can already talk and walk. Doesn't do any of those things. Doesn't do anything. She has two teeth, though. She got teeth. We have kids that get teeth early. And I don't know what that says about us. That's probably about it for the advancement. But, you know. Teeth says about us. That's probably about the advancement, but, you know.

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Available in select locations. See app for details. Okay, where are we at? What's next? Oh, my turn. All right. So I have two things I want to talk about quickly. Hocus Pocus, I know another massively famous cult movie. That's been a big resurgence of late. I know there was some kind of reunion thing. Yeah, yeah. Well, they're actually on Disney+. They're making a sequel with the original cast. Oh, yeah, right.

Is that filming at the moment? Yeah, it is. Yeah, so Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Nanjimi. What about Jack Nicholson? Is he coming back as the devil? Ooh, I have no idea. Is he in that? I don't think he's in that.

I don't think he's the devil. I'm thinking of a different movie. I think you're thinking of a different movie. It was made in 1993 and it's an American dark fantasy comedy horror film directed by Kenny Ortega and written by Neil Cuthbert and Mick Garris. Totally not in it. I don't know why I thought that. Yeah, I was thinking, I don't know what movie you're thinking about.

Maybe where Jack Nicholson is the devil. I'm going to look that up. Okay, you look that up while I talk. So, yeah, a villainous comedic trio of witches who inadvertently are resurrected by a teenage boy in Salem, Massachusetts on Halloween night. It's spooky. It's freaked me out, right? Just the Come Little Children song that Sarah Jessica Parker sings

on her broomstick. It does freak me out. The Witches of Eastwick he was in. There you go. All right. So go on. So, well, I mean, and obviously this story is based on the set in Salem but it's not kind of really anything to do with the actual real stories

about the Salem witch. No, they just killed a bunch of women. That's what happened there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Anyway, but this movie wasn't that popular when it came out in cinemas but it's sort of developed like a cult following and I loved it as a kid and was kind of spooked by it but it's fun.

I've heard people say that, I don't know whether you've seen it recently, that it doesn't really hold up past nostalgia. What would you say to that? Yeah. And this were like people who were like huge fans of it as like a kid. Yeah, I did re-watch parts of it for this. Yeah, it's nostalgic. I'm watching it for nostalgia more than I'm watching it because it's like a really amazing film.

Yeah. Actually, you know what I think does make it? Just the chemistry between the three witches. Yeah, totally. I think that's what people really remember from it. The cast, the story, you can take a leave, which I think the whole film really, the best bit about it, is Bette Midler and Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathleen and Jamie.

I just think they're fantastic. Yeah, they are. They're a good team. Bette Midler especially is really amazing. But Sarah Jessica Parker's character, she just plays it so brilliantly. They're all good. They're all really good. They're all really good.

They actually do a little promo for charity video about voting and they all get on there and just like do a little spell to get them to vote. Oh, a spell. But anyway, so that's quite fun. The other thing I wanted to talk about briefly with you is something voting and they all get on there and just like do a little spell to get me to put a vote. Oh, a spell. Oh. Oh, but anyway, so that's quite fun. The other thing I wanted to talk about briefly with you is something that really freaked me out as a kid. Oh, no.

And you're going to laugh at me. Okay. But I wonder if anyone else experienced this. We all had puberty, Claire. Yeah, and I'm going to tell you a deep start. It sucks, all right? We know. I'm going to tell you like a deep dark secret.

Relax. So when I was a kid, we had a spooky party and mum had this cookbook that had like a theme. It must have been just like a 90s kids cookbook with like themes of like a princess party, a fairy party, a spooky party. Spooky party. There was one plate of things in this that so freaked me out and she made them for our spooky party and it freaked me out so much

and I Googled it and it still freaks me out. It's like nails on a chalkboard. Have you ever seen someone make witch's fingers as a dish? Is it like a dip? I can't remember. So there's a few variations. Sometimes people will get like a biscuit because it's also the other term for it is bloody fingers.

Ooh. And it's just like biscuits dipped in like strawberry jam on the end or you can get a bit. I would have seen these but, yeah. There's lots of different ways of doing it. Green, yeah. But for some. Are they little cannellonies?

They can be, but sometimes you can make them with pretzel, like sticks, and then coat them in icing and then have like nails. You know what it is? It's the fingernail on them. Yeah. Because they look like actual fingers to an extent. Yeah, they do. And I remember just as a kid, I must have only been like five or something.

And I knew they weren't real, but it's something about seeing a whole plate of fingers that look like they've been cut off. Severed fingers. Severed fingers. Ooh. That just like has really troubled me for my whole life. So you've never eaten a finger since? Look, I was going to make a joke about that.

I bet you were. I'm not going to do it. Will I do it? Look, I was going to make a joke about that. I bet you were. I'm not going to do it. Will I do it? Look, no. I've never enjoyed a good. Go on. I think people get it. I think the implication is there.

I know you were a big like dress up like a Halloween big party kind of family, weren't you? Yeah, we really were. I remember that story about your dad, Hal. You guys had a Halloween themed party and he put on a costume and a mask. Stop me if I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. And he sat in a chair and so everybody came into the party.

And he didn't move, so everybody thought he was like a mannequin, like a ghost or a ghoul or whatever he was supposed to be. And then suddenly, did he just move his head? He just moved. Like he didn't even move like much did he did he just but like a couple like quite a few kids had to leave the party that's so your dad though he's taking things too far just like absolutely committing to this bit he probably sat there for like 40 minutes yeah he did as well he did he really committed to it and just like

these kids are just totally freaked out. And now when I think about it, those parents would have been freaked out too, I reckon, being like, what is this guy doing? Well, it was different in the 90s as well because Halloween is bigger now than it used to be. But there was a lot of like, that's some American bullshit or whatever because that was what it was like for me growing up. It wasn't really a thing.

Nobody in my street did it. But now in my parents' street, like all the kids do it. They all do it. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's a big thing. And like in our neighbourhood, people, not this year obviously, but a lot more people do it. And I think it's great because I know people are like,

oh, it's just a commercial. Everything's that. Fucking everything is like a made-up thing and just let people have fun. It's fine. Yeah, and there is something quite community-spirited about it. Yeah, I think it's great. In our neighbourhood, people get out there and have barbecues and just the parents, they have wine in tents on their nature streets.

Totally. Yeah, it's really fun. I think it's good, yeah. Yeah, I think it's good too. The other, just going back to my dad very briefly, just reminded me of something. He once taught a lecture on mortality and death and he bought a coffin. Yes.

He got, as he was talking about mortality and death, he just got two guys from a funeral home to bring in a coffin. Yeah. Just leave it in the lecture theatre and then take it out again. Because didn't he, and I remember because he was telling me about this and he said, I was really disappointed because nobody asked about it. Like nobody put up their hand and was like, what the fuck is this? What is this?

Yeah. Because I don't know, I think it was like a way of like making it more real and visceral. Was that the idea behind it? Yeah, I think he was wanting people to really think, to really understand that one day that would be there. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, nobody asked.

If that had been me, I would have been like, excuse me, do you want to explain this? Why didn't anybody say anything? I don't know. They were, I don't know, existential philosophy students. Yeah, that must have been it. Too cool or something. He told me that he wanted to take it a step further.

I don't know whether he told you this. Clay's dad's passed, by the way, for those who don't know. But he wanted to put, it's like stand it up and put a mirror inside it so people – and he would get people to file up one by one and like stand in front of it and then you see yourself like lying in a coffin. And shockingly the university wouldn't let him do it. Really?

It was the uni that stopped him. Oh, right. I thought he just thought it was too far. But he was going to – he would have had to cut a mirror like the shape of a coffin to do it. And knowing my daddy would have done it. He would have. He definitely would have. He had zero embarrassment.

Don't always take things too far, my dad. Anyway, yeah, I've forgotten about that. Imagine that, though, as a lecturer. I would have loved that. I would have thought it was great. Yeah, we'd forgotten about that. Imagine that though as a lecturer. I would have loved that. I would have thought it was great. Yeah, we definitely would have. But, yeah, I think also like if you've got – if you've recently lost somebody or you've experienced trauma,

it's not the best thing to do. I mean, yeah, but I guess you're also doing a subject called mortality and death. That's a good point. You did choose that. Mortality morality I think might have been the subject line. Anywho. Mortality, you're going to die, definitely. Make sure you do it ethically.

Ethically. That's the whole idea. That's it, yeah. Anyway, your turn. Yeah, how much time we got? A bit of time. All right, cool. I don't have a second horror thing actually.

All right. Well, I beat you. Well, I said one horror thing. Yeah, well, what's your other thing? So I've got a couple of things I could talk about, but let's do – this one's more horror related. Do you want to do a post-apocalyptic movie, Claire? Oh, my God.

It's from 2015. You are supposed to be someone – people say to me all the time, James is a movie buff on television. He knows everything about it. I don't. And I want to say to them, no, he doesn't know everything. He hasn't watched that arthouse film you've heard about. No.

No, I probably have. He's watched mostly post-apocalyptic things and things about sim heroes and sci-fi. No, that's the thing. No, I do. That's like my wheelhouse. But I watch as much as I can of everything. I try to.

There's always, I've got huge gaps in my knowledge. But if you've got an action movie from 2002 to 2008, I've seen it in cinemas. Don't you worry about it. Before you've had children and a pandemic happened. That was the era of me and Mason seeing literally every movie that came out. Yeah, I remember that. Anyway, so what I want to talk about is called Z for Zachariah.

It's directed by Craig Zobel. It's based on the book of the same name. It came out in 2015. Again, never heard of it before. It popped up on Stan, I think. But it stars Margot Robbie. It stars Chiwetel Ejiofor. And it stars Chris Pine.

It's a really good cast. It's all the people that are in it. So it's the fallout from a nuclear war. And this woman, Margot Robbie, lives on a farm by herself because her family has passed away. And it's also her farm happens to be tucked away in this valley where the nuclear fallout, for whatever reason, it doesn't get there. It's not really explained properly, but it could be like the peaks of the mountains or it could be an altitude thing or whatever. So she's just living

there. She's working the land by herself. For all she knows, she's the only person that's left. And then, oh, and she's got a dog, I think, maybe. Yes, she does. Anyway, then Chiwetel Ejiofor turns up. Do you know, he's in a bunch of stuff. He's the bad guy in Doctor Strange. He's in a bunch of stuff. He's great.

And he's just been, he was living in a bunker and he just wanted to find something else because everything's dead and irradiated and so they start forming this relationship. But, you know, but he doesn't, you know, like don't want to take this too quickly or just do this because we're potentially the last two people left, do you know what I mean? What amount of pressure that would be?

A huge amount of pressure. Imagine that. And also, like, it would be very, because you'd also be pretty horny, right? Yeah, you'd be, I'd imagine you would be, yes. Yeah, but what if the person was like, weren't that into them? Well, yeah, exactly. Would you eventually just have sex because you were bored and there was only the two of you there?

Probably. Eventually? I'd imagine so. How repulsive would someone have, like how much would you not want to be with someone for you never, for the rest of eternity? You probably, if you didn't like each other, you'd probably end up killing each other, speaking of. So then a third person turns up, Chris Pine.

Yes. And then it becomes this. Oh, a love triangle. Yeah, and it's sort of, and it is a love triangle, but it's more this kind of, it's this shifting dynamic and then there's this mistrust between like who was this new guy and Chiwetel Ejiofor who turned up and originally there's this like questions about who he is, you know what I mean?

And then it's like there's a stranger again and he gets very protective and like, you know, kind of we were here first and whatever, but it's like you just got here also, like this is, you know what I mean? So then this dynamic kind of exists between them and it's post-apocalyptic in the sense that like everybody's gone but it's not like nuclear fallout and aliens and monsters, it's just these three people living in this farmhouse. And that's it.

That's the movie. That's so interesting. And like on the land and whatever, and they're trying to get power back, so it's about them building a generator and there's a nearby waterfall, so they're trying to build this thing. And to do that, they have to decide whether to knock down Margot Robbie's father's church to build the water wheel to spin it. And then, you know, so it's kind of there's that dilemma there

because that's kind of the last remnants of her father and her faith and all those kinds of things. And so it's about jealousy and mistrust and, like, people's intentions deep down and what people do for, like, in the name of these things. Do you know what I mean? Like, it should really be the situation where these three people meet and you're probably the last people left. So maybe, you know, try and make the most of it, you know what I mean? Like it should really be the situation where these three people meet and you're probably the last people left.

So maybe, you know, try and make the most of it, you know, and it's a sign of how things spiral. But it's not really in a gory way or a bloody way. It's more in kind of just, I know it feels very like true to human nature. It's good. I'd never heard of it. It's good. See if Zachariah is on something.

Sounds good. Margot Robbie is a bloody superstar. She's great. She's really good. She also produces her own stuff. Yeah, she does, which is cool. Which means she gets way more interesting roles. Yes.

And really complex roles. She's clearly gone out of her way and I think it's similar to what someone like Nicole Kidman's done or Reese Witherspoon where if you want these kind of roles and you want to play these interesting characters, you need to take. Particularly if you're a woman. Oh, yeah. Yeah, totally. And you see for like Michael B. Yeah, Michael need to take control. Particularly if you're a woman. Oh, yeah. Yeah, totally.

And you see for like Michael B. Jordan is the same, the actor from Creed. Like, you know, you create these things and then it gives you more freedom. It also shows that by doing that people want to see the things that you make. Yeah, absolutely. Reese Witherspoon has been such a trailblazer in lots of ways for doing that, for creating roles for women to be complex and villainous

and dark and blonde. Legally Blonde 3 is coming. Did you hear it? I did see that. I certainly did. I heard the first one's really good and the second one's like whatever. Yeah, the first one is excellent. Yeah.

I saw the musical for some reason. Oh, yeah, cool. Yeah, and it wasn't that good. Oh, really? It was all right. But I think the genius of that first movie is Reese Witherspoon and her ability to play like that sort of America's sweetheart, blonde, ditzy kind of character but also manage to bring such wit

and intelligence to it in a way. Like she manages to walk that line really well. I've seen bits and pieces. See, I haven't seen everything, have I? I've seen bits and pieces of that movie but, yeah. It's great. I like it. Yeah, it's really fun.

And got paid by a lot of money from Quibi, I found out recently, from Mason on our more successful podcast. Ah, Quibi? What's Quibi? You don't know? No. What's Quibi? What's Quibi? You don't know? No. Okay. What's Quibi?

Short breakdown. So imagine a streaming service, right, but it only comes to your phone and it has episodic content with stars you love like a Chrissy Teigen, a Reese Witherspoon or whatever, but they're only in four-minute chunks and you can watch them this way on your phone, horizontally, or this way. Isn't that just like? Squiby stands for quick bites. Isn't that just Instagram?

Yes. And imagine, say, you raise $1.75 billion because you're one of the former CEOs at Disney to get this thing off the ground. And imagine it launches in the peak of a pandemic when people are starved for content, but you also don't have an app, so it goes to your television. So you can also watch it not only on your phone, but watch it on your television screen. But you didn't do it. Imagine if you didn't do that. It was strictly home. And imagine, say you wanted to share that content because you're enjoying it, but there's copyright systems

in place on the app, which means you can't screenshot it or take clips and post them online to show people you're enjoying a show. And imagine that after six months of you trying to get this thing working and giving out hundreds of thousands of free subscriptions, and you were aiming to get 7.6 million people by the end of the year on board, you only had 300,000. Imagine. And then imagine that on top of that you're hemorrhaging money literally every day because you pumped so much resources into stars to produce content and then didn't promote it properly and nobody knows what this thing is.

Well, I'd never heard of it. And imagine, just say last week they decided to fire all the 200 people who work on this app and close it all down and return whatever money is left to investors. And imagine you're Gal Gadot, Wonder Woman, and you come in to talk about doing a show and one of the executives from that, from Disney, says, you know what you'd be great as? You could do exercise classes like Jane Fonda.

So that's Quibi in a nutshell. Oh, my God. Yeah. That is totally someone who doesn't understand social media. It's like there's free stuff that's, ah. Yeah, there would be. There's better than that. Instagram,'s, ah. Yeah, there would be. There's better than that. Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.

That's what I mean. Why would you even bother going into that space because it's all already done. It's ridiculous. And the market's already, oh, whoa. Yeah. That is some, is that like some guy who's just never understood? I think it's a man and a woman. I can't remember their names.

Katzenberg. Katzenbirds. And Megzenberg. Katzenbirds. And Meg Whitman. That makes sense. Katzenbirds aren't smart enough to come up with it now. But he headlined like I think he brought in like that Goodyear of DreamWorks and he worked at Disney. So that's why they managed to get all this money because he was like this Disney like powerhouse executive.

But now he's like 65 and he doesn't know what like people want. Or how people actually use and share access. Or how people access things. Like he could have given, what he should have done, I don't know why we're talking about this. Why are we talking about this? We're at the end of the episode. But given money to like Instagram influencers and like not talking

about people like me, but like bigger, big YouTubers and things like that to make stuff because then they promote it on their social media. Yeah, but I still don't think people need another app. No, I still think it's a terrible idea. But you'd have to do that in conjunction with the app so they'd be posting things and go, watch the full series on whatever. I don't know.

It's crazy. Like every step that they took was like that's the wrong step. Well, you know what makes me the most angry? And Hannah Gadsby would say puffer fish about it. I'm just puffer in a way. Had that money could go to a bazillion things. I know. You could say that for literally anything.

A billion dollars. Imagine if we pumped that into trying to save the planet. $1.75 billion. There's no money in that though. Investors put in money to get a return. Oh, to see returns. That's how anything works. Imagine though if they put $1.7 billion into

renewables. Nah, I want Quibi. Anywho. Stands for quick bites. There's a story. I will say, that's not a bad name. Yes it is. They did a short story where it's a woman who gets her arm removed. Quick bite. Yeah, who gets her arm removed. Quick bite. Yeah, she gets her arm removed and so they give her a golden arm. But the golden arm is slowly poisoning her but she's so in love with the golden arm that she doesn't want to remove it. Is this real?

It's real and it poisons her. It's called The Golden Arm. So if it's a show, it's not like it. It's a 20-minute show in four-minute chunks. God, I don't want to watch a show in four-minute chunks. Yes, you do, Claire. You can get Quibi. It shuts down early December, so you've still got time.

You could just put that on Facebook. You could. And imagine you go to sell this app, but then when you go to sell it because you're hemorrhaging money, the deals that you made with creators mean that the creators still own all their content. So anything that you made for Quibi, you do not have the license to. Imagine that. That's Quibi. you do not have the license to. Imagine that. That's Quibi.

Anyway, we should wrap this up. The glee with which you share about this is historical. Very last thing, reviewer time. Oh, yeah. I love when people leave reviews. It really helps out the show. It says, you're my happy places from absolute emerald. It says, I wave to you guys every week.

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We would love to hear from you with your suggestibles. This one is from Chelsea Wing. Dear Sundays, I messaged Claire a few weeks ago asking for details about her blue pot. She certainly did. As I was hoping to buy one to celebrate my partner and I moving in together, you can go and look at my blue pot if you're so inclined. That's Claire Tonti on Instagram.

Did you describe it so well? No, I told them the exact model. Oh, so you posted a picture and they were like, what is this blue pot? No, because I talk about it on my gram, my magical pot on my gram. You could be an influencer on Quibi. I could. Are you saying I'm only good enough for Quibi? There's some big names on Quibi.

Liam Hemsworth had a show. Sophie Turner had a show. All right. You're calling me the Liam Hemsworth of Le Crochet blue pots. Hey, Liam Hemsworth is the second best Hemsworth. There's a Hemsworth below him. Didn't you know that? Yeah, I did know that.

There's a third Hemsworth. What's his name? Chad. No, his name's Luke Hemsworth. He's the eldest. That's not a good name, is it? No. Poor Luke.

Anywho, I mean, he's probably fine. He's fine. He's on Westworld. He's fine. Don't even worry about it. He's fine. And they're all bloody super good. They're all rich and ripped. Yeah, correct. He's on Westworld. He's fine. Don't even worry about it. He's fine and they're all bloody super good. They're all rich and ripped.

Yeah, correct. Anyway, okay, so this is from Chelsea. I'm happy to report that we are mostly moved in because they bought, she bought the blue pot to celebrate her partner moving in together, which is really cool. And I made my first meal with my blue pot while listening to Suggestible, of course. It was as magical as I'd hoped.

I wanted to recommend the recipe I used, Cookie and Kate's Red Curry. It was delicious and warming and easy to substitute veggies as needed. For James, I can recommend the game Destiny 2, which we've been enjoying even while sitting on the floor as we have no couch. It's a live service. I'm a bit up and down on these bloody live services, mate. He's up and down.

He's all around. He's torn. I'm a huge fan. But I've heard good things. He's all out of faith, he's up and down. He's all around. He's torn. I'm a huge fan. But I've heard good things. He's all out of face. He's Natalie and Bruelling it over there. And Bruelling it. This is how he feels.

This is how I feel. He doesn't know if he should watch Destiny 2. It's a game. Because he's on the floor. They're on the floor. They are sitting on the floor as they have no couch. We did that. Remember when we moved into our apartment, we ate pizza on the floor. Yeah, we did.

Off the floor. We didn't even put it there. We went in and there was a pizza on the floor and we ate it. And we lay on our stomachs and put our heads in the carpet and ate it. And we went mmm, this is a mistake we said. Old pizza. How old is this? Chef's kiss. Yeah. No, we did do that though and it's kind of

lovely and fun. Now we have lots of furniture. It's surprisingly fun. Now we have lots of furniture. It's a surprisingly fun side. Don't go out and buy everything all at once. Just like get old stuff and then like slowly replace it. That's what we did, yeah. Over the years. We did. Don't like go into debt buying different couches.

No, exactly. So you don't know what you want until like you live in a space for a while. Correct. And if you move places then you need different. Also, I don't know what I'm doing so I have a a space for a while. Correct. And if you move places, then you need different. Also, I don't know what I'm doing, so I have a partner who's better at that than me, which is you. And that being said, you're not even that good at it. Hey, I do have an existential crisis every time we have to buy something.

I'm always like frolicking around with a measuring tape, putting down newspaper. Yeah, that's true. That's a really good tip actually. If you need to buy new furniture. You need to do a shit on the floor, put down newspaper. And then eat it. Is that what we're doing?

I didn't say that. What's wrong with you? I don't know. It's very late. I'm losing my mind. Anyway, we no longer have the excuse of the pandemic lockdown to say that we're losing our sanity. Yes, we do.

Anyway, moving right along. I will say this quick tip if you're moving into a new place and you're buying some furniture, measure out the size of the furniture on the floor, put masking tape around it and then just live with it for a little bit because sometimes you can measure something out and it'll fit in the space but actually it's in an awkward position and you'll walk into it. And you forget like the lip of the table, like it's like a...

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Or you'll just like bang into the corner of the table or whatever. You can tell you never bought furniture because no one forgets the lip of the table. People forget. Because you measure out the top of the table. No, I know, but you kind of, you don't get the sense of it unless it's like, unless you have to physically walk around it. Yeah, that's correct.

Exactly right. So, yeah, put some paper and you sit down. I bought furniture. You're always like, I need you to come look at this couch. Okay. So I drive out, I i drive out this is my life so i drive to a furniture store and i get there twice i get there maybe three times and they're like hey and i'm like hey um my wife wants me to look at this couch that we're getting and then they go oh yeah over here and they and they come over like this is a couch and i go great thanks leave. I go, so this is my life. I research for six months.

I go to about 20 different stores. I measure out the floor. I put down the masking tape. I walk around it. I look at different fabrics and see what will work in the space and when you have kids and how to Scotchgard it. And then I finally narrow it down to three couches and then I say to you, hey, James, I need you to come and look at this couch

because it's a giant purchase. And I go, ugh. Yeah, and he goes, ugh, I literally have to go for an hour out of my day to look at this couch. Yep. And you complain the whole way there and the whole way back. It's true. I wish I'd married someone that would choose furniture for me.

Me too. I wish you married someone that chose furniture and then I could just live out the back. The problem with you is like you just don't even. You get called that so often. Oh, mate, every day. Yeah, the problem with you, Jim Jam, is that you don't notice things in the house.

We've had a pot, a beautiful pot that my beautiful friend Bridge gave me just before I had a little baby and it's got a beautiful hand-painted rainbow on it that she got gifted from, made from someone. From a leprechaun, yeah, go on. And it's got a beautiful piece of lily in it and it's been in our kitchen for six months. Yeah. And I said, because it's going a little bit curly brown on the edges,

oh, James, have you been watering that because it shouldn't need too much water because it'll start to like look sad. And you said, I've literally never seen it before. I have never seen that part. And I do like the kitchen like literally every day. And I'm like, I don't know, I've never seen that before. It's literally right next to the sink. I couldn't miss it.

It's not in like a weird spot. It's like right there. I'm like, nah, I don't know this plant. Sorry. Can't help you. Anyway, we should go. We should go. All right. We've been to Just For Pod can't help you. Anyway, we should go. We should go. All right.

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We're not going to do that. I would never be cheeky. No. I'm only tweaky. Brilliant. Our strongest finish. I mean, mine wasn't a good joke. But we shouldn't a good joke.

We shouldn't record these late. We should record them as soon as we get up. I know. Yeah, we should. Okay. You can't put these two words together when you wake up in the morning. No, that window of time where I'm awake, which is between like 11 and 11.43. Yeah, correct.

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