Suggestible - Save the last dance.
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5, 6, 5, 6, 7, 8, we're unsuggestible.
Every week we come and we say we're losing our minds.
Doodly-doo, doodly-doo.
And we love suggesting things all the time, we never stop.
Never stop, never give up.
Hold your head high and reach the top.
When the world seems to get to the top, bring it all back to bring it all back now.
We don't want to get copyright struck, Claire.
Sorry.
Well, I'm not sorry because I love doing that.
Hello.
Welcome to Suggestible Pod.
My name is Claire.
James is over there.
Hello.
You can't see me, but I am.
I'm right over there.
He's right over there.
You're lucky you can't see him, mate.
He hasn't had a haircut in bloody months.
I look more and more like Colin Farrell with my look.
Collings, you need to cut out how long this laugh is. I mean, yes, you look so much like Colin Farrell with my look. Collings, you need to cut out how long this laugh is.
I mean, yes, you look so much like Colin Farrell.
Thank you.
I mean, the laugh didn't help.
Do you mean like?
Colin Farrell.
Do you mean like circa now?
Yes, from the movie Miami Vice with his cool long hair.
No, he looks like a greasy.
Ah, you wish. A greasy man. I wish. Yes, well looks like a greasy. Ah, you wish.
I wish.
Yes.
Wow.
Me too.
Sexy Colin Farrell.
Should we get into our recommendations?
We should.
I should just quickly say this is a show where we recommend you things to watch and listen
to.
Your hair is only rivaled by my eyebrows.
That's right.
Because we're currently self-isolating.
It's 2020.
If you listen to this in a portal.
Your eyebrows look really good tied back in that ponytail, I think.
I'm struggling.
I need a waxer.
Also, my toenails, they're chipping away.
I've got like weird pink on them.
I'm about to have a baby in two weeks and I was going to get all glamorous
beforehand because it's all downhill.
Otherwise, the doctors treat you differently.
Everybody knows that.
No, but I feel like you need to be in your best shape
for when you're headed into never doing any self-maintenance
for like months on end.
That's very true.
That's actually not incorrect.
You want to be as good as you can be.
Yeah, exactly.
Whereas I'm starting at a low bar at the moment.
I actually have a question for you just before we start recommending things
to you.
Hello, listener.
I hope you're doing okay out there.
Me too.
I think that too.
I actually have more concern.
All right.
This is my question.
Yes.
Will you paint my toenails for me?
You already asked me this off air.
So you're trying to make this an honor conversation.
But you haven't done it.
No.
Oh, yeah, I'll do it.
Whatever.
That's why I'm getting it on air and before next week.
So when we meet next week.
This is one of those things that make me some kind of cuck. Is that one of those situations? Soy boy. Yeah. Yeah, I'll next week. So when we meet next week. This is one of those things that make me some kind of cuck.
Is that one of those situations?
Soy boy.
Yeah, I'll do it, whatever.
Soy boy Colin Farrell painting my toenails.
I won't do a very good job, but I'll do it, yeah.
Will you let me film it for Instagram?
Yeah, whatever.
Cool, excellent.
Content, James.
Collings, edit this out.
I'm not going to do it.
I have a lovely pink shade and I have not had my toenails painted
and I bloody can't reach them.
I can't even see my freaking toes.
Do I even have feet anymore?
Who bloody knows?
We'll do that.
We'll pluck your eyebrow and we'll get on with it.
Speaking of getting on with it, the documentary that I'm recommending
this week premiered on HBO.
HBO.
But other places which we'll talk about in the ad.
I say H.
I think it's supposed to be H.
It is. I say H too. But it's supposed to be H. It is.
I say H too.
But believe me, the amount of people that correct me on how to say H is a lot.
A lot, yeah.
Anyway, The Last Dance is a sports documentary following the Chicago Bulls season from 1997 to 1998.
I thought you were watching Save the Last Dance the other night when I came in.
No, that's the Julia Stiles movie or something.
Julia Stiles? Isn't she in that? something, isn't it? Julia Stiles?
Isn't she in that?
Yeah, I guess it's Julia Stiles.
I thought it was J-Lo.
I don't think so.
Oh, maybe it is.
Save the Last Dance.
Isn't it J-Lo?
I don't know.
No, it is Julia Stiles.
God, I know a lot about movies, even shit I haven't seen.
Yeah, you do.
That's my genre and I didn't know.
Ridiculous.
Anyway.
Anyway, so I'm not a super big basketball guy, right?
No.
As in like my stature but also in general.
Like I like basketball.
I play it a little bit.
Like I enjoy playing it.
Let us reframe that.
You are not a big sport guy, the sport.
You don't watch any of the sport.
I don't watch sport but I like sport.
No, you don't.
What sport?
I like playing and running and basketball and stuff like that.
What sport?
Any sport.
Honestly, I don't play any at the moment.
What sport do you play?
I like running around and stuff.
Yeah, that's not sport.
That's fitness.
What are we talking about here?
Because you are trying to tell these listeners that you are some kind of
sport aficionado.
I'm not, but I'm saying I don't hate it.
I have known you for 14 years.
I have never once seen you sit down voluntary to watch any kind of sport.
I'm not talking about watching sport.
I don't watch sport.
Fuck sport.
I don't care.
And that is the goddamn truth.
I don't need to see dudes run around crashing into each other or women.
Women can be sport too.
Women do great sports.
I'm not against it.
I just don't care.
Like it's just not my thing.
That's all I wanted you to acknowledge.
But that being said, I like physical activity.
Like I like playing basketball and like I like kicking the football
and things like that.
You like being fit and active and healthy.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't like the sport.
No.
You don't see the point of it.
Cricket is the stupidest thing that's ever existed.
But basically, if you're a kid in the 90s,
only 90s kids will know this.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
NBA was like the biggest thing in the world.
Everyone had like a T-shirt with a Chicago Bulls singlet over the top.
You know what I mean?
All of your mates are still in that era.
They are all in that era.
And they all listen to like Tupac or something.
Tupac.
Rappers.
Tupac of what?
A rapping.
Is that a rapper?
Tupac. Tupac. Rappers. Tupac of what? A rapping. Is that a rapper? Tupac.
Tupac.
Yeah, well, they all listen to like 90s rap and 90s basketball.
It's a lot of Snoop Dogg.
It's a lot of Dr. Dre.
It's a lot of that.
I know.
And they're all like 37-year-old men still wearing basketball singles.
Hobbling around with their bad knees.
Still playing basketball.
Still playing basketball.
Yeah, but you're doing layups, mate.
Doing layups, mate.
Anyways.
Do you know terms for the
sport you know terms for sport yeah i remember you played basketball for a while and you didn't
wear your glasses or a lot of it so you just used to drop the ball or get hit in the face and you're
like that's why i was bad at it no you went when you wore glasses you played much better anyways
i mean you couldn't you was only up from where i started. Though I played in like a D grade team and we used to play lots of mums
in their like 40s.
Which is now you.
Yeah, which is – I'm not – don't even start with my confusing.
I'm 34.
Thank you very much.
Over midway.
Yes.
What?
No.
To 40.
Young.
From your life.
Are you serious?
Yeah, you've been over –
You are the one that is on the precipice of 40.
What are you saying to me right now? Old man Colin of 40. What are you saying to me right now?
Old man Colin Farrell.
What are you saying to me right now?
I'm saying you're on the precipice of 40.
What are you saying to me right now?
You know what I'm saying to you.
Because I'm saying it to you.
What are you saying to me right now?
Stop.
Anyway, back to my story that was scintillating.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought I was doing a recommendation.
I'm sorry to interrupt your story with my recommendation.
Nobody cares about your recommendation.
Everyone's in isolation.
No one cares.
Who cares?
Well, then why am I even here?
Let your eyebrow grow out.
Yeah.
That's what I say.
Anyway, what's your dumb story?
All I was going to say was it's not even that fun.
These mums, like, challenged us to a fight in the car park.
Did you do it?
Because I – no, of course not.
I'm not violent.
You're the cuck. No, no tiny wrist i would be violent i've never been called a cuck before oh get used to it and i appreciate it all i was going to say
was i can't get into fights because i've got tiny tiny wrists yeah and i hurt my wrist i could never
punch anyone dangerous if i had to i would not. I would just kick because I've got long legs.
You would be.
I've got big leg muscles.
You would not do well kicking.
Or I would jab with a finger in the eye.
Yeah, that would work actually.
Or the balls.
Go for the throat.
Bing, bing.
Yeah.
Like this.
But I can't punch because I've got no strength in my wrists.
Well, that's the thing.
A lot of people break their hands like punching people.
If you were worried you hit someone with like the flat of your palm,
you'd be better off doing that.
Excellent.
Not that I'm an expert on fighting.
I haven't been in a fight since school, so what would I know?
You're not good with the fight?
I have no idea.
Maybe I'm excellent.
I just haven't been in a fight in a really long time.
I feel like you're a low center of gravity.
You'd probably be fine.
Yeah, sure.
I get in a lot of arguments with boomers that nearly resulted in fights.
Yeah, you do.
My God, one day you're going to get punched.
Probably.
There was that time when you were like really,
you saw red when you were driving and then you pulled over
and you thought the guy was going to pull over
and you were going to get into a fight and he just drove away.
I just want to clarify that that is not a true story.
Are you serious?
I don't know what she's talking about.
It's a true story.
And if it was a true story.
You get fired up, mate.
And if it was a true story, it happened before I met you
and you weren't even there. But it's not a true story. Are you serious? I remember I was there when you came back. You get fired up, mate. And if it was a true story, it happened before I met you and you weren't even there.
But it's not a true story.
Are you serious?
I remember I was there when you came back.
You were definitely not there because it also didn't happen.
Oh, sure.
Just like the time you didn't get into a fight with a boomer
in the park over a dog leash.
That wasn't a fight.
That was a conversation and he lost control, not me.
And he kept walking away.
He was screaming.
You don't even know who I am.
You don't know who I am.
Oh, God, we're really rambling tonight.
The crazy thing is we still don't know who he was.
It's a mystery to this day.
It's such a ballsy thing to say, isn't it?
You don't know who I am.
It's one of the funniest things you could say to another person.
If only you knew that my name was Claire Tonti,
you would never have challenged me.
Like unless he's like, I'm the president of fighting.
I'm like, oh, no, not the president of fighting.
I had no idea who I was talking to.
He's the president of the sport and he knows you don't like him.
Anyway, we've got to get back to this recommendation.
So it's about the Chicago Bulls.
They had this incredible run.
They won five championships in a row leading up to this season.
And the team consisted of Michael Jordan, others, but Michael Jordan, Scotty Pippen and Dennis Rodman. These
were these, they were like the best players of the era who work in tandem to kind of Michael
Jordan, obviously being the best off, but he wasn't like they talk about it in the show,
but single players, they don't win. It's like any sport. They don't win, you know, championships or
whatever the sport is, you know what I
mean, or grand finals.
I'm really glad you're here to explain this to me.
It's just good to explain sport.
Did you just explain to me the concept of teamwork?
No, I'm just saying.
Here we go.
You just explained the concept of being on a sporting team.
I'm assuming, you're not the only one who listens to this.
There are people like me who listen to this show and don't know what sport is.
But anyway.
He can win a game.
You need to be playing as a team.
No, the emphasis I was trying to get across is Michael Jordan was arguably the best,
is arguably the best player of all time.
Right.
Right?
So, but he was like a freak of nature.
Yeah, I know this.
So just.
So now you're explaining to me who Michael Jordan is.
What I'm saying was if there was ever an era where a single person
could carry a team, he could have done it to an extent.
Yes.
Right.
But this is about like so these guys are also getting older.
They're all in their 30s.
Management are looking at rebuilding the team.
There are salary disputes regarding some players, in particular, Scotty Pippen,
because he signed on in 91 for much less money than everyone else was getting.
But without Scotty Pippen, Michael Jordan is not Michael Jordan. He's great. He's one of the
greats. But anyways, there's a whole lot of footage that was recorded at the time. There's
500 hours of footage that Michael Jordan only recently allowed to be released at his approval for the use of this documentary. And so there's
a whole lot of behind the scenes stuff and interviews with that players now about what
happened around this time and all the other teams and the trading of players and money disputes and
also flashes back to the early days and how these players became what they are. Like you learned a
lot about Michael Jordan's background and how he started.
And he's got this insane desire to win like at all costs.
I remember hearing a story, I think it's in his book about how he'd got, he's just got
this gambling kind of, some people think it's that he might actually have a gambling addiction
where that he just needs to win.
So he'd be at the airport and he'd be like, I bet you a hundred bucks that my bag will
come out first of the carousel.
But he'd already tipped the people, the baggage handlers, like a thousand dollars. It's not the
money, it's the winning. It's the win. So this is the kind of person that he is. So just this
mentality and the fact that this team is, again, getting older, they're looking to rebuild, but
they've still got these amazing players they could probably win off the back of. But what do you do?
And also the coaches tied into that as well, because it might be his last season and Michael Jordan won't be coached under
anybody else. It's this whole thing. Anyway, again,
I'm not a huge fan of basketball, even though I know everything about it,
but this is, it's amazing. And it's on HBO.
There's going to be two episodes. Well,
there was two episodes on Monday released, but it's Netflix in Australia.
And it's just an incredible documentary.
And after watching some of Tiger King and being like,
I hate everyone in this and I don't want to watch it.
I watched the trailer and I was like, this is not for me.
I watched a couple and, look, I get it.
It's fascinating but I'm just like, I don't want to know anything
about any of these people.
I just think it makes you feel really sad about humanity.
Okay, so I have one important question about your recommendation.
Is it a question or is it a story about yourself?
You know me too well.
No, it's a very important question.
Does Michael Jordan address his experience in Space Jam?
It doesn't come up.
The movie.
It's funny because that came out in 96.
That means he would have filmed it in 95.
So this would have happened.
This happened long after.
You're like the rain man.
Yeah.
Well, Michael Jordan also retired for a season to play baseball.
So that is addressed in the movie Space Jam,
but it's probably also going to be addressed in the documentary.
Yes.
What's funny about when he went to baseball was he's a good baseball player,
but he's not in the way that.
Oh, like a world famous basketballer.
Yeah, he's like a natural athlete.
So compared to other people playing, he's good,
but he's kind of a goof compared to
someone who's been playing baseball their entire life, every day, all day.
Forever. Yes, correct. I'm so glad you shared all your thoughts about the sport.
It's great. Honestly, you should really watch it. Even your friend Chanel, you know.
Yes.
From your other less successful podcast, or maybe about the same success as this podcast.
No, it's much less successful.
Because her husband as well.
However, I feel like it's of riches of learning about life, that podcast.
I should go back to it one day.
I love podcasts.
Anyway, yes, she would like it too.
She did watch it.
She did like it.
Oh, how do you know?
Because I'm friends with her husband.
Remember, that's how we all met.
Oh, yeah, and Goran in particular loves the sport.
Boy, does he. And in particular loves the sport. Boy, does he.
And in particular the basketball.
He loves the basketball.
The basketball.
Okay, the basket of balls.
Yes.
What do you mean, like testicles?
I don't know why I like the word balls.
I think it's funny.
Balls.
Moving right along.
I'm recommending a basket of balls.
Me too.
Just hairy old testicles in a basket.
How many?
Are they loose?
What are we talking about?
I would say there are 12.
No, 11 because one dude that donated only had one ball to donate.
Or he kept one for himself.
And then you just send them to a friend and cheer them up because of isolation.
And they fry them up.
No, not for eating.
They fry them up and you eat them like popcorn.
While watching, say, The Last Dance with Michael Jordan,
The Space Jam Odyssey.
No, no.
All right, what's your next recommendation?
I listened really well to your recommendation today.
I don't believe you.
Okay, mine is great.
It is.
Is it?
Yes.
Ooh, should I do my own PR like I did last time?
I love your PR.
Okay, so this is a Reese Witherspoon production
from her production company,
Hello Sunshine.
I just have to say straight up that I really respect Reese Witherspoon
and what she's doing for women's stories particularly.
Yes.
She's an avid reader and is really well known for reading really widely
and then really having a discerning eye for books that are going
to be turned into great TV.
She did it with Big Little Lies by Lea Moriarty and that is an excellent book
and an excellent TV show.
This is kind of like kind of it's been kind of touted
as the next Big Little Lies.
It's based on a book called Little Fires Everywhere by Celeste Ng
and it takes place in Shaker Heights, Ohio,
where Celeste grew up.
So the novel is about two families living in the 1990s who are brought together through their children's friendship and there's kind
of intertwined fates.
The Richardson family headed by Reese Witherspoon's character is
like a picture-perfect family and it's like a giant mansion
and it's a bit Stepford Wife-y.
Oh, are they all robots?
Are they all robots?
So Reese Witherspoon's character is like that, you know, really uptight.
But are they all robots?
Perfect mother.
Yes.
Are they actually?
No.
Anyway, and then Reese Witherspoon has four children.
Her youngest daughter is very different to her and doesn't fit into that mould.
And then also another producer, Kerry Washington,
who's a great actress, she plays the other mother in this
and she's a single mother African-American
with a teenage daughter who's really intelligent.
She's an artist, very free but very kind of deep feeling,
a very serious person who's clearly got a dark past
and it kind of addresses a lot of things
about inequality and race, but a lot about motherhood and womanhood and the characters
are really complex and quite rich.
It hasn't had as great reviews as Big Little Lies.
It was only just released in March.
How many episodes?
Eight.
Are they all out?
Sorry.
Yeah, they're all out now.
Is there going to be a second season?
Well, I think so.
Yeah.
We're just waiting to hear back about that.
So there's eight episodes, 60 minute? Well, I think so, yeah. We're just waiting to hear back about that. So there's eight episodes, 60-minute episodes each.
I think it's brilliant.
I've watched verse three and so far I'm really impressed.
I think it's just what I love about watching this,
and it's the same with Big Little Lies,
is that the characters of the women are so nuanced.
It deals with motherhood in a way that I don't think a lot
of TV shows necessarily are.
You can tell that the executive producers are women and you can tell
that the writers are women and that makes just the most incredible difference.
Yeah, you talked about this last week because it's things you can relate to.
Yeah, and so I read some reviews online that weren't that complimentary
but then I think also I don't
want to say you have to be a woman to appreciate I don't think that's true at all because the
character well it sounds like that's what you're saying no but I but I do think that it addresses
things to do with womanhood and motherhood that are really kind of hidden I guess in our culture
in the way that we talk about things so I'm really enjoying it I've Reese Witherspoon is always
really great Kerry Washington's character is really great too you and the way that we talk about things. So I'm really enjoying it. Reese Witherspoon is always really great.
Kerry Washington's character is really great too.
You get the sense that it's pivoting towards like a tipping point
where things are going to get very dark.
It opens with Reese Witherspoon's character watching her big,
perfect mansion burn down.
And you don't know who kind of did that,
but it's clearly been a deliberate fire that's been released.
Who did it do you think?
We don't know. It's kind of hinted that it's her daughter who's, did that, but it's clearly been a deliberate fire. Who did it, do you think? We don't know.
It's kind of hinted that it's her daughter who's, I mean,
she's troubled I guess in a way, but it's more just that she just
doesn't fit in with the perfect picture family mould.
I bet that she didn't really do it and it was one of those things.
Well, well, well, who knows?
Anyway, really interesting and I'm really, really enjoying it.
You can find it on Hulu.
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No, I know.
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Correct.
My next one you could watch if you have this.
It's called Stan.
It's an Australian streaming service, so you could use it
if you wanted to access this.
I watch Fighting With My Family.
That's a link below, by the way.
Fighting With My Family.
Again, it's something that you might not think that I would be interested in
because it's about English amateur wrestlers,
a wrestler who makes it into the WWE.
Wow.
This is all very like the sport this week.
Well, I've been wanting to watch this for a while because it's like a
lighthearted family comedy with some drama mixed in.
But it's written and directed by Stephen Merchant,
who won half of The Office.
Big, tall Stephen Merchant.
Yeah, I love Stephen Merchant. With his googly eyes and his big glasses.
That's right, yeah.
He's taller than The Rock.
He's funnier than Ricky Gervais as well.
Well, yeah, now he definitely is, yeah.
But so it stars Florence Pugh, who people might know from Midsommar.
It came out.
Florence Pugh.
She's in the –
Florence Pugh.
She's actually – I forgot.
I didn't realize she was in it, but she's in a lot of stuff.
She's in The New Little Women, Midsommar.
Did I say that already?
Yes, you did say that.
The new Black Widow movie.
Did I say that already?
You did say that.
Okay, I've said these things already.
Yeah.
I don't know why I kept saying her name like that.
I just felt like it because it was a cool name.
That's who she is, yeah.
But she is great.
She's also got Vince Vaughn, Lena Headley from Game of Thrones,
Nick Frost, who people might know from Hot Fuzz,
and Shaun of the Dead.
It's also got The Rock as himself.
So it's like this feel-good story of this girl's dream
or this family's dream is to get their family into the WWE.
And wrestling, like I'm not a fan, like not because I don't like it,
it's because it's a world that is so inaccessible to me at this point.
It's been going for so long with so many characters
and ongoing storylines that I don't, I just can't get into it.
You know what I mean?
I've just got, like I'm too old to be starting this thing right now.
I've got too much stuff to do.
You've got time now.
But it's always been fascinating to me because I know it is,
people say it's fake, but it's fake in the way that like a television show
is fake or, you know, like a book is fake.
Like a soap opera.
It's a narrative.
Aside from that, the physicality of it is insane.
You have to be a pro athlete to pull this kind of stuff off
and I'm sure I've talked about pro wrestling before.
Yeah, I know.
Well, I learned a lot from watching Glow, which I think is an amazing TV show.
But before that I'd always was like wrestling,
that just kind of looks dumb and hard and scary and bad for people.
It's incredibly difficult.
Exactly.
I totally agree. And the fitness that you'd have to have and bad for people. It's incredibly difficult. Exactly. I totally agree.
And the fitness that you'd have to have and that kind of charisma
to carry it off.
And the size of the people that have to do it and the way you have to –
it's like a dance, the way that you twist your head the wrong way
when somebody drops you and you're paralysed, you know,
and there's been deaths and major injuries.
Would that be called The Last Dance?
Potentially, yeah.
That's a different thing.
That's a movie starring – who was the first?
Yeah, starring Jennifer Hudson or whatever you said.
Jennifer Lopez.
Yeah, but it's kind of like Rocky, I guess, for the WWE.
But what's interesting about this girl – it's based on a true story.
This wrestler called Paige, not a real name,
but that's the wrestling name that she adopts,
how that she's the first person from this small kind of English suburb or town or whatever like come came from nothing and made all the way
to the wwe and became this name of because there's a lot of people who are going in and it's a lot of
the female wrestlers wrestlers and they touch on this a little bit it's a lot of glamour and kind
of fake tan and blonde hair but she's not really that she's kind of dark hair and pale and like
leather jackets and things like that and it's and so she kind of broke through in wrestling in a way that other people
hadn't really done before.
And it kind of changed the game a little bit.
So you weren't just seeing a lot of the same kind of characters come
through.
So yeah,
it's really great.
And it's about dream following and stuff,
which is cool.
You should watch it.
You should really watch it.
Like it's really,
it's really good.
Yeah.
It sounds awesome.
I would really love that.
I love the dream following.
Yeah.
Follow your dreams,
be your own person.
And it's funny.
Be of holy self. I love that. Amazing. Yeah. Follow your dreams. Be your own person. And it's funny.
Be your holy self.
Oh, I'd love that.
Amazing.
All right.
I'm totally going to check that out.
And that was available on Stan.
Stan.
But, you know, it's everywhere.
Cool.
Awesome.
So my last recommendation is called Unorthodox.
It's currently available on Netflix.
It debuted on March 26th this year.
It's a German-American drama miniseries loosely based on Deborah Feldman's 2012 autobiography called Unorthodox,
The Scandalous Rejection of My Hasidic Roots.
And it is actually the first Netflix series to be primarily in Yiddish.
So there's quite a lot of subtitles.
Not really, but as it really is.
But there's also a lot of English in it as well.
It jumps in and out.
Like Narcos, it jumps around.
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know if you know Deborah Feldman.
I've heard that name.
Yeah, she's born and raised in the Hasidic community of Satmar
in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, so New York.
Her native language is Yiddish and at the age of 25 she published
this memoir basically about her escape from the, she would say,
quite oppressive Hasidic community.
She was married to a man she'd known for sort of 30 minutes
and then for a year she had a lot of anxiety around consummating the marriage
and so she, you know, was sort of treated with a lot of disdain, I guess,
and felt a lot of shame.
Women in that particular community are prevented from reading a lot and they can't
perform in public. There's a lot of rules, very strict. It's a really fascinating look though,
because it is leaning towards one side of that community, but also I'd say the characters are
very nuanced. So there's a lot of depth. So you get to see both sides of the coin of her husband,
who actually seems to be quite a nice guy but has sort of brought
up in this community.
Yeah, you grow up a certain way.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So they've got a very distinctive way that they dress
with Orthodox Jews.
They have the ringlets.
The men have ringlets.
They have these big kind of fur hats and the women are all required
once they get married to shave their heads and wear these like brown wigs.
So it actually, this particular group that she was a part of came
after the Holocaust.
So the whole kind of premise around this particular religion.
That's relatively new.
Yeah.
So this part of the Orthodox Jewish faith is to rebuild the six million lost.
And so there's a really big emphasis on women and fertility
and having lots and lots of babies and, you know, marriage
and all of that stuff.
Yeah, so it's really interesting.
Actual TV series was written by Anna Winger and Alexa Karolinski
who are both award-winning German writers.
And then the director is Maria Schrader
who I don't know if you've heard of the series Deutschland 83?
I know.
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
Yeah, so it was one of the first kind of German TV shows
to cross over in the US basically.
Yes, okay.
Yeah, and it's starring an incredible actress called Shira Haas
who's Israeli.
And she in this, she's tiny, but just the depth of emotion in her face is just brilliant.
It's so beautifully crafted.
Deborah Feldman had a lot of kind of input into the way that it looked.
They were really, really careful to be really respectful of this particular. Which I don't know her, Maria Schrader.
I thought I did, but I didn't.
Yeah, she has a, I think there's another. I'm just looking through her filmography. Yeah, I don't know her, Maria Schrader. I thought I did, but I don't. Yeah, she has a, I think there's another.
I'm just looking through her filmography, yeah,
and it's, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, she's really excellent.
And you can tell her the way that she's directed this
is just impeccable.
What's kind of amazing is that it looks,
it basically follows the lead character's life in how she starts
off in her faith
and trying the best that she can to be sort of a faithful Yiddish woman.
Yeah, right.
Or probably saying this wrong, a Hasidic woman.
Right.
And then once she gets married, she kind of starts
to see the world differently and she's a very different thinker.
She's a musician and that's kind of frowned upon
and not allowed in this community.
But she has private secret piano lessons
and then she escapes to Berlin.
So it's sort of set between New York and Berlin.
Right.
What year did you say it was set?
It's set in 2012 maybe.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
Because Berlin's a really interesting, well, it was before the war as well
but it's kind of a really quite liberal city.
Yeah, it's fascinating actually because they look at Berlin as a city
and at its history and, you know, like the memorial to the Jews
and all those sorts of things.
But she kind of falls in with a group of musicians who are studying at,
I think it's a conservatorium in Berlin, and
she has this, harbours this dream to be a professional musician and watches them play
and is just astounded.
Does she do it?
Well, I won't tell you until you see it.
Just tell us.
No, it's really incredible.
But the group that she falls in with is sort of very like, it's like young people living
in Berlin.
Is it like a hodgepodge?
Yeah, of different people, of different sort of gender and sexuality.
I mean you see her kind of taking off her wig and slowly coming
out of her shell and like she goes to like a rave or a dance party
for the very first time and drinks alcohol for the first time
and does all these things where she suddenly is seeing the world
and what opportunity is out there for her.
Her mother's also, her mother was a single mother and, well, no,
she wasn't a single mother.
She came from the UK to marry a man in the sort of community
and then it quickly became apparent that he was a drunk
and she escaped with her daughter.
Oh, okay, right, yeah.
But then the community basically, because they have quite a lot of wells,
they use their power and influence so that she lost custody of her daughter
and she's a lesbian and lives in Berlin.
Right, okay, gotcha.
But that's why she goes, escapes Berlin to be reunited with her mother.
Anyway, long story short, really excellent, beautiful cinematography.
I would highly recommend that.
Ellen Orthodox.
What would you give it out of 100?
200.
That's too much.
That doesn't make any sense.
Nothing is too much, James.
Nothing is too much?
Nothing is too much.
What if you ate 44 pulled pork sandwiches?
It depends.
Can I eat them over a set period of time?
No, no, no.
You eat them all at once.
Pulled pork?
I do love a pulled pork.
Do you like 44 or whatever I said?
No, that's making me feel sick.
I have a lot of pregnancy reflux.
Don't say those things to me.
Too much of a good thing.
So I'm saying this show might be too good for people.
It might be.
And on that, we should probably finish.
So do you have any reviews for this lovely show that we've created?
Well, that's the thing, Cleb.
People have been so kind because you can just open the app.
You're banging a review in your iTunes or whatever app you use.
Yeah, in-app.
You can do it on your device.
This is from James Dolph.
It says, a necessarily spin-off has given us five stars,
which we really appreciate.
James and Claire have a wonderful chemistry,
but one episode in particular has a special guest
that I think makes much better chemistry with James, Nick Mason.
Those two were the best parts of the episode.
I think they should have their own spin-off podcast. He's joking, the episode. Why don't you go and – They should have their own spin-off podcast.
He's joking, of course.
Why don't you go bloody marry Mason then?
Maybe I will.
I'll escape to Berlin and marry him.
Maybe you will.
Take off your wig, your Colin Farrell grey wig.
This is a real Colin Farrell look.
All right.
Excellent.
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Love it.
This is from Daniel Martin.
Hi, guys.
My name is Daniel and I'm writing from Lisbon in Portugal.
Wow.
Love the podcast.
As I do James' less successful one, The Weekly Planet.
What?
Got him.
I like you, Daniel, already.
Actually, I'm a fan of TWP since day one and it was the gateway
to discovering the world of podcasts and eventually Claire
and Suggestible, your destination.
That's right.
This is the last podcast you'll ever listen to.
Correct.
So he brings three recommendations.
For Claire, the work from Camilla Lachberg, I probably said that wrong,
a Swedish crime writer.
Highly recommend both the Eric Falk series.
First book is The Ice Princess where she is a real crime writer
and you follow per book a crime and her everyday personal life evolution.
What's the second book?
Ooh.
What is the second book?
I don't know.
Oh, The Golden Cage.
Very good.
He would recommend that.
What's the third book?
One off.
There is none. Oh. Anyway, The Golden Cage. Very good. He would recommend that. What's the third book? One off. There is none.
Oh.
Anyway, thank you so much, Daniel.
And for James, Naruto.
It tells the story of Naruto Uzumaki, a young ninja cursed with the spirit of a demon fox
sealed inside his body.
He does that run.
The hands back run.
You familiar with that?
Yes, I am.
The anime run.
Oh, so cool.
Yes.
Yeah.
So it makes more sense than it sounds.
He grew up feared by everyone in his village and he pursues recognition and acceptance
from his peers.
That sounds cool.
Yeah, I know Neruda.
And for the Sundays, so collectively, Dark.
Ooh, it is a German Netflix one, which we can use without expressing the end.
Pop up on the bloody app, I think.
Which tells the story of the mysterious disappearing children
in the small town of Wyndon.
Interesting.
Okay.
It's all about double lives, fractured relationships
and dark pasts of four families.
Ooh, I think that would be really interesting.
I think I clicked on that.
I think it's on the internet.
I might be thinking of something else.
But when it started in German, I'm like,
I can't be watching subtitle things right now because I was editing
at the same time.
I'm like, oh, I'm going to miss this.
We've talked about that before.
You really do have to be.
That's like unorthodox because a lot of it is subtitled.
Not all of it but some of it.
Yes.
So you do need to not be editing.
Yes.
You need to really follow.
But it's so worth following and getting absorbed in.
Just get off your phone for once in your life and watch a different screen.
That's what I say.
That's why I'm always like no phones at the dinner table
and you're always like let me show you this thing on my phone.
I do not do that.
But after this, remind me to show you something on my phone.
That's your favourite thing to do.
It's the worst thing you've ever seen.
You're going to hate it.
Thank you so much, Daniel, for your recommendation.
I really, really appreciate it.
All right.
We'll be back next week, won't we?
We will with this episode entitled James has painted Claire's toes.
We'll see.
I'm sorry.
Don't forget to edit it all out.
Don't forget.
All right.
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