Suggestible - Settle Down Champ

Episode Date: November 13, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Jessi Cruikshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it, or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to airbnb.ca slash host. Welcome to Suggestible. I'm introing the show apparently. You just pointed at me. Just throw that on me like it's nothing. Like you're, luckily I'm a professional. I just roll with it. You
Starting point is 00:00:40 wouldn't even notice the difference most people. But now you're talking about it. No, it's still because people, I'm exuding a confidence that people aren't bothered by it. Okay, yeah, you're so confident that your jumper says champion. That's right. I mean, really? Okay, champ, I'm Claire. I'm trying to think if I've ever won anything. You're joking.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Like on merit. I don't think I have. No, you won that radio competition and explain to the listeners what you won. By the way, we're married. This is James. I'm Clary. Thanks for letting me know. This is a gesture where we recommend you stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Go on. Tell the listeners what you won. It's funny you said that because I've got a video that's going up like the day this is, I think, where I talk about it. But basically, I won Nintendo 64 in 1999 for the release of Star Wars Episode I. Why, James? For doing a C-3PO impersonation. I I talk about it. But basically I won a Nintendo 64 in 1999 for the release of Star Wars Episode I. Why, James? For doing a C-3PO impersonation.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I'm proud of it. I don't care. I'll tell everybody. What? Can you do your impression? Yeah, I'm ready. Okay, go. Luke, help, I'm trapped.
Starting point is 00:01:38 My legs have been shot off by a stormtrooper. Just kill me here. I can't do this anymore. That was so accurate yeah wow i had no idea you had such acting chops oh yeah so that's why i won obviously no i didn't it was actually it was it was a worse impersonation than that if you could believe it but the other two were way worse so i got to win it but the other thing that i've talked about this before but the idea was that the people who won because they're doing like one every night, would come in and record like a skit for – this is with Triple M on the crowd show – would do a skit for like the new Star Wars film.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And I'm like, I hope that never happens. I just want the Nintendo. I don't want to do anything else. And luckily it never eventuated because I'm sure they went, actually, this is insane and this won't go well. So I got the Nintendo and that was it. Well, there you go. Let's get the ball rolling. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Okay, champ. That's going to be my new name for you. Well, I'm happy with that. I'm saying it ironically. It's reflective. No, I'll take it. I'll take it real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:36 All right. Is it my turn first or yours? Yeah, first. That's fine. Woo. It's ladies first this time. I went and saw a film last night. I've been really looking forward to seeing
Starting point is 00:02:45 called Judy about Judy Garland. I've been talking about it for a while. I finally got to see it. It's The Life of Judy Garland. Well, it really documents the last five weeks of her life. Right. When she did a show in London. Is she in ill health in the last five weeks?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Well, she's just addicted to pills and booze and a whole lot of things, which kind of unfolds throughout the film. It stars Renee Zellweger who, by the way, does a brilliant job and disappears into the character. She is spectacular in this. I love Bridget Jones but I've got a baby now, whatever that means. We are struggling today. I'm dying.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Oh, God. Of great fun. What I loved about Bridget Jones is that ridiculous fight scene between Colin Firth and Hugh Grant when they're all scuffly around. Oh, yeah. You remember that in the first movie? And they punch on, but they punch on like regular 45-year-old men would. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And I love it. It's so good. Because no one ever punches like they would in The Avengers. Oh, no, it's very scrappy and not fun. Correct, exactly. So this movie is just heartbreaking, but Renee Zellweger's voice in this is amazing. The way she captures Judy Garland's essence is just incredible. I watched an interview with her where she said she just had so much fun deep diving
Starting point is 00:03:59 into her life and Judy's musical ability and just all of the old footage was just amazing. Oh, wow, okay. There's a lot that I didn't realise about her. Obviously she's most famous for her role in The Wizard of Oz, Somewhere Over the Rainbow, and the film kind of transitions between memories of her when she was working for MGM, the film company, which I didn't know a lot about and I looked up. It's the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios, which is the lion that goes,
Starting point is 00:04:24 It's the lion that goes, rawr, and it nearly went under maybe. Yeah, it's the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios, which is the lion that goes rawr. It's the lion that goes rawr. And it nearly went under maybe. Yeah, it did. Maybe it has by now. Or someone has definitely bought it at some point. Yeah, yeah. So The Wizard of Oz was produced in 1939. Now the character that looms large in here.
Starting point is 00:04:36 She was actually 17 when she did that then. Yeah, and it just looked like the most horrible life. Her real name was actually Frances Ethel Gum. Yes. Her life when she's a teenager depicted while she is working for the studio is just horrendous. There's I guess a film producer you'd call him, Lewis Burt Mayer.
Starting point is 00:04:54 You'd guess you'd call him that. Who's played by Richard Cordery. And he just sort of looms as this almost Harvey Weinstein-esque kind of character in her life. It's sort of semi-implied that there was some sexual misconduct, but not really. Like nothing actually happens, but he threatens her a lot. He's very manipulative.
Starting point is 00:05:11 They get her to go on diet pills so she becomes addicted to diet pills because they want her to be tiny for the role of Dorothy. Aren't they speed as well, those diet pills? Yeah, they are. Yeah, so they basically put like a 15-year-old girl on speed. Yeah. And they restricted everything she ate. They cast it for when she's young, obviously they basically put like a 15-year-old girl on speed. Yeah. And they restricted everything she ate. Do they recast it for when she's young, obviously?
Starting point is 00:05:28 There's like a different actor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who do they have to play her? I don't know. I didn't write her down. She's good. Yeah, but that's not the main. Yeah, they're only kind of flashbacks,
Starting point is 00:05:38 but it really gives you an understanding about the Judy that appears in her 40s. Yes. And what she's been through and the kind of pressure she was under from the studio. And I guess what they could get away with back then. It makes me think so much about child actors and what they go through. Oh, it was atrocious, yeah. Yeah, so I think she was really messed up.
Starting point is 00:05:59 But they sort of hint that her mother was quite a difficult character and her father was gay. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, and I think left them when mother was quite a difficult character and her father was gay. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, and I think left them when she was quite young. So she kind of gets taken by the studios and her mother just allows whatever. They lock her into some contract as well. Yeah, they did, some horrible contract.
Starting point is 00:06:18 So even though she was brilliant and performed in such a spectacular way, it really depicts Judy as someone who has like a love-hate relationship with the stage. Yes. And it's really a love affair with her audience, but behind the scenes what it takes out of a performer, particularly someone as fragile as her, to get up there and do what she does.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Like there's a moment where she arrives in London, she's had to leave her children back in America because she's completely broke and her children back in America because she's completely broke. And her career in America is over really, because everyone's seen her as really difficult to work with because of her addictions and her inability to be consistent. But when she's on, she is incredible, lightning in a bottle, just amazing. And when she arrives in London, she's just so fragile, but also there's this great scene where she goes to do a rehearsal. Everyone's really worried because she gets there.
Starting point is 00:07:09 She's like, I don't feel like rehearsing. It's a bit damp in here. And everyone goes, opening night is tomorrow night. There's like four tiers of, it's a, you know, a huge audience at Talk of the Town in London. It's sold out opening night and the critics are all coming and she doesn't even look fazed at all and just broken and everyone's terrified and she rocks up and kills it
Starting point is 00:07:30 with zero rehearsal with the band. Yeah, right. But she's just, she obviously has been doing it since she was five and it's just so ingrained in her. There's something amazing in the way that Renee Zellweger captured that essence of her. Yeah, absolutely. And such a show woman really, like spectacular.
Starting point is 00:07:47 But heartbreaking because behind the scenes she's had, you know, four or five marriages and chooses the wrong guys and loves her kids so fiercely but can't get a handle on herself and her ability to look after herself. And, yeah, it's really sad. But also incredible. And the soundtrack is amazing. Yeah, definitely see it. The soundtrack, the songs are so iconic songs that I hadn't heard before by myself and get happy is obviously come on, get happy. You know, that's amazing for once in my
Starting point is 00:08:19 life is really famous, but by myself, I hadn't heard. And it's the opening number of her when she smashes it. and it's brilliant. Come Rain or Come Shine, the Trolley Song, Zing Went the Strings. It's just such a great album to go and look at on Spotify as well. So I've deep-dived into Judy and old archive footage and it is brilliant. Okay, cool. She's got this real – because her daughter is Eliza Minnelli, who I also really love, and she's from Cabaret.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And Arrested Development and other things in particular. And other things, so many other things. I love her particularly in Cabaret. But there's something similar about them. You can see their mother and daughter. There's a movement and a way of being on stage that is kind of unusual but so you just can't look away. It just grabs you. And it's the same kind of quality that Barbra Streisand has.
Starting point is 00:09:06 She's not necessarily the most beautiful person, you know, aesthetically, whatever, but she's just the charisma is just dripping off the stage. And it's, yeah, it just reminded me again of how star quality isn't about being perfect. It's sort of about embodying, you know, all their uniqueness or something. Yeah, totally. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Does that sound really corny? I like what you're saying. Poor colleagues. He has to edit me today. I am struggling in Struggle Town. Liza Minnelli, I'd forgotten this. She was married to Peter Allen at one point as well. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:09:37 Yeah. Wow. Well, that's another thing they explore actually in the film. Peter Allen also famously very, very, very gay. Well, this is where I was going with this. They explore Judy Garland a little bit as a gay icon in the film. Okay, cool. And there's some beautiful scenes with a gay couple who've obviously,
Starting point is 00:09:53 you know, loved her for a long time. And back at that time one of them was arrested for being with their partner. Right, okay. And so they couldn't go and see her when she first came to London. So the second time around they go't go and see her when she first came to London. So the second time around, they go every night and sit in the audience. And then she ends up catching up with them afterwards and goes to their flat. And it's just this beautiful scene. And you just get the, you start to get an understanding of, or a tiny window into what it must be like to have
Starting point is 00:10:21 the person that you love not be approved of. Yes. Not even just not approved of but arrested for just being with the person that you love. Yeah. And then how important Judy was to them and in their life. Yeah, and what she meant to people. It's just a reminder that being different should be celebrated. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Unless you're a prick. Yeah, like you, champ. Like me. Hi, I'm Jessie Crookshank from the number one comedy podcast, Phone a Friend, which I strongly advise you listen to. You know what else I suggest you look into? Becoming a host on Airbnb. Did you like that segue? Thank you. I recently started putting my guest house on Airbnb when I'm out of town, and I didn't realize how easy it would be until I did it. If you have a spare room, you could Airbnb it or your whole place could be an Airbnb. It's a great way to make a
Starting point is 00:11:08 little extra money by doing not a lot, which frankly is my mantra in 2024. To learn more, go to airbnb.ca slash host. I saw a movie called The Nightingale, which is directed by Jennifer Kent, who's an Australian director. She also did The Babadook a few years back, which is like a horror movie. The Babadook, the Babadook, I just like saying it. Not like that. Yeah, I've never actually seen it. One of those ones that I've been meaning to watch it.
Starting point is 00:11:33 But The Nightingale basically, it's set in 1825 and it's about a convict Irish woman named Claire, A-R-E though. Good name still. And she's basically, she's done her kind of time as a convict because she was brought over for reasons that you find out for and she's abused by this English soldier and who's kind of keeping her on the hook because she's technically allowed to leave and go and live her life with her husband and her baby,
Starting point is 00:11:57 but he's abusing her and kind of like offering her it and taking it back and things like that. And anyway, there's this, at the very beginning of the movie, without spoiling it too much, this officer commits like an atrocious act towards like her and her family, which I won't detail here. But you're going to say to a horse. I think there is some atrocious horse action in this movie. Oh, Lord. I think the horses are okay.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I know you don't like horses, but I mean no one wishes that. No, because Jennifer Kent Kent who made this movie, I watched a few interviews with her afterwards and she's talking about how the violence that's portrayed in this film, it's not just for the sake of, it's to kind of, it's to drive home like a point. It's like it has purpose. It's not just, you know, you shoot someone and they fall down
Starting point is 00:12:41 or whatever, you know, like many movies are. I put my hand to my mouth. There was that kind of like, whoa, like it was very, very confronting. Anyway, from there she goes, you shouldn't watch it, you'll hate it. But she then goes to find this English officer for revenge and she takes with her an Indigenous tracker. The interesting thing is because it's set in 1825 in Van Diemen's Land, which then became Tasmania, this was the time of the Black War, which was basically,
Starting point is 00:13:08 they were just killing the Indigenous people there. Yeah, it was an absolute massacre. It's resulted in like a huge loss in culture. It was commonly thought that there weren't any left in the modern day, but there are survivors are there are ancestors who still exist but it's really it's about it's about like it's a revenge story but it's also about forgiveness and acceptance and and things like that so it's not just her going out and trying to murder this guy although it kind of it starts that way it becomes this different thing and her and the tracker they don't really get along and they're from completely different worlds but they've also both experienced trauma at the hands of English settlement.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So it's like they kind of bond over this kind of situation. And it's been criticised for depictions of rape and murder. There was a screening in Sydney where 30 people walked out. But she's defended this decision, so I've just written this down here to get this right, saying the film contains historically accurate depictions of the violence and racism at the time that the colonial power inflicted on Indigenous people and it was produced in collaboration with the Tasmanian Aboriginal elders
Starting point is 00:14:12 who asserted this is an honest and necessary depiction of history and a story that needs to be told. So it's one of those things where it's not fun to watch. It's brutal but it's also, you know, it's not far removed from what actually happened at the time because Australia was built off the back of an Indigenous slaughter, you know, and now it's all like barbecues and mates and prawns and whatever
Starting point is 00:14:33 but there is this dark history here that there's still. That we don't really address very often. I don't feel. I don't think so and the depiction of it is. People are becoming more aware of it now. But it's like that whole thing about in Australia there's a debate about – this is a cheery episode. This is such a depressing episode.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I'm trying to think. Maybe I'll change my recommendation to something even lighter. My last one is a bit happier. But, yeah, to change the date of Australia Day because it signifies the arrival of Captain Cook. Is that right? Or the First Fleet or one of them? I can't fucking remember.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah, the First Fleet, yeah. I used to know. I don't care. But to another date because, you know, for some people in Australia that's a celebration because it's a new land. But for others like the Indigenous that's not. That's an invasion and a trauma and a loss of culture and family. And so it's – anyway, I think they should move it.
Starting point is 00:15:21 That's a whole other debate entirely. I do too because it's unifying. Yeah. At the end of the day. If you still want to have your fucking barbecue on that day, you can. I think they should move it. That's a whole other debate entirely. I do too because it's unifying. Yeah. At the end of the day. If you still want to have your fucking barbecue on that day, you can, whatever. Like it doesn't matter. But I think Australia was supposed to be set up as like inclusive for all and shouldn't it be also inclusive for the people who were here originally?
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah, absolutely. I know it's such a complex issue. Obviously we don't want to speak for anyone who is of Indigenous descent. But from my perspective, it just makes sense to move the day so that everyone can be involved and celebrate the nation going forward because we can't go back in time and erase history and change things, but we can move forward together. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And there is the argument that like, well, if they move it once, we're going to just then move it again if like another thing happens? Well, yeah, because you're supposed – because if there's something that comes up that maybe, you know, that you could, you know, change it for the betterment of everybody, then yeah, maybe you do move it again or maybe you keep it in a new date, this new date forever. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I think it's important though to have these conversations and not just be locked into this thing forever, you know. Yeah, I do. And I think what's really interesting too, we've noticed this too, not that it's the same, but the Melbourne Cup is another public holiday that the nation, well, particularly Victoria in Australia celebrates and it's a famous racing horse, racing race. It's a horse race.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Horse race. We talked about it recently. I am in the board of Struggle Town today. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. Anyway, in previous years it's been, you know, really sort of infamous and famous and everyone's dressed up and put hats on and all this stuff, but it's been decreasing in popularity and attendance because people
Starting point is 00:16:58 are starting to really examine horse racing and the way that horses are treated, the loss of lives of jockeys. And this is complex too because there's a whole industry there and families and history and small rural communities who that's their, you know, day of the year when they all come together. It's entertainment and livelihood. Yeah, it's not as simple as just cutting things off. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But I do think we're moving into an age where we're really starting to examine things more. And I think the other part of it too is that Australia is such a young country. Yes. You know, we really, there's, I mean, it's old in terms of Indigenous history, you know, 70,000 years. But in terms of, you know, colonisation, it's a couple of hundred years.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah. So it's going to be really interesting to see where our country heads towards, you know, in another 200 years, what we want our country to look like. Yeah, it's not looking great at the moment. But look, we'll see. Maybe we'll turn it around. What's next? Oh, God, this is such a depressing episode.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Oh, my God, Claire. The saddest, saddest episode. I'm going to have another fun thing after this because, oh, boy. But it's probably indicative of my mood. We've been having some really terrible bushfires in a state called New South Wales where Sydney is the capital city. Yeah, and Queensland and South Australia. So our heart goes out to anyone who was affected.
Starting point is 00:18:12 It's probably nothing. It's probably not climate change related as everybody says it is. It's probably not. Anyway, I've just been reflecting a lot on the impacts of climate change and we're actually physically seeing them now. And our government and Scott Morrison, who is our current prime minister, is just not doing anything about it. And I know a lot of people can feel a lot of inertia,
Starting point is 00:18:31 and I can too, around this issue. And obviously also a lot of people aren't sure about the signs around climate change. There's a lot of misinformation. So I found a video that Greta Thunberg, which is how you pronounce her name, and it's always a bit tricky, created. So she's a schoolgirl and activist who's just been going around the world just being incredibly amazing and powerful and strong
Starting point is 00:18:52 on climate change particularly. And she's created a video with environmental and political activist George Monbiot. Ah, George Monbiot, yes. I think that's how you say his name, Monbiot. Anyway, and it's great. I shared it on my Instagram but I'll also share it on Suggestible and put a link in the bio to it.
Starting point is 00:19:09 It really just talks about in very plain terms what's going on with the environment and what are some of the solutions that we can actually do right now that communities can do on a small micro level and what we need to do on a macro level to try and combat the effects of climate change. And, you know, taking carbon out of the atmosphere is one of the biggest ones.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And what made me really happy was that our Planet Broadcasting fundraiser this year has been for the Seaweed Regeneration Project. And James is even yawning. Oh, God, I'm sorry. I'm so sick of the environment. Get over it, environment. Greta talks a lot in this video particularly about how some of the best solutions are natural ones and so planting more trees,
Starting point is 00:19:55 growing more forests and also help forests as well in the ocean that can sequester carbon, which is what we're currently doing. So that charity campaign, Collings will link below, it's still open if you'd like to donate. If you feel powerless like me, that's something you can absolutely do right now to try and help and plant some more seaweed that can sequester carbon. There's the current bushfires in Australia. Wow. A lot of red there, isn't it? Yeah, there's a lot of red. Yeah. So that's one thing. And I guess the other thing she's encouraging everybody to do is to get out on the streets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Get active. Get out there. Flip cars. Break windows. Destroy local businesses. Settle down, champ. But yeah, correct. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:33 No, don't do any of that. No, but just get political. Write letters to your local, you know, parliamentarians. Flip a car. Attend the rallies. Punch a police horse. And plant some trees. Just go out and plant some trees. Flip a car. Attend the rallies. Punch a police horse. And plant some trees. Just go out and plant some trees.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Plant some trees. That's right. Anyway, enough from me. Native trees. Native trees. Correct. Exactly. All the things.
Starting point is 00:20:54 What's your recommendation? This is something I started a few years ago and it's back on Netflix or it's soon to be back on Netflix. Who's to say? It's called The Toys That Made Us. It's a Netflix series, as said, and basically it covers, it's about a, maybe it's an's about a maybe it's an hour or so each maybe it's about a grown man who likes to play with toys pretty much his name is james clement i'm a champ uh so it's it covers the history of popular toy brands from inception to either death or like continuous growth so it looks at the history of
Starting point is 00:21:21 lego which did you know initially claire lego didn't even have the little clicky bits in it. They just used to like stack loosely on top of each other. Insanity. That's so crazy. And I think their Lego factory even burned down a couple of times. They do Transformers. They do Star Wars. Star Wars is particularly interesting because.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Is it? Well, yes, because George Lucas gave up some of the rights of the money to a director's fee so that he would retain all the franchise rights and all the toy rights. Genius. Because people were like, toys, they don't sell for shit. It's not going to matter. But they were an absolute phenomenon, these Star Wars toys.
Starting point is 00:21:56 So that's a particularly interesting one. He made a lot of money. He did make a lot of, like billions and billions of dollars. Billions and millions and millions and billions. There's also Barbie, Hello Kitty. There's the He-Man one is particularly interesting because it. Is it? Yes, because they, they just ruin it.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Like it's, it's huge and then it just disappears forever. So that's, and they think some people blame She-Ra because they bought out like He-Man for girls and they're like, well, that's, no, this was just for boys and now it's, it was about muscular men and now there's girls and now it's ruined. Maybe it is, but I think it's also the arrival of like those Ninja Turtles and there's also Transformers and a bunch of other stuff going on at the same time. Anyway, I just think it's a really interesting and fun show. If you've got any interest in like a toy from your childhood,
Starting point is 00:22:38 from like the 80s or 90s, there's probably one, there's probably an episode that might interest you. I haven't watched them all. Like I looked at the Barbie one and I went, Barbie's for girls. No, thank you. Excuse me, what? Actually, Barbie has got really cool now. That's true.
Starting point is 00:22:50 She was very problematic there for a while. And now she vapes, so it's cool. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Vaping Barbie. Woo-hoo. No, but she's a doctor and like a zoologist. And a nurse. She does it all.
Starting point is 00:23:03 She's a doctor. She's a nurse. And she's like different sizes now. She's not as skinny and tiny. And a nurse. She does it all. She's a doctor. She's a nurse. And she's like different sizes now. She's not as skinny and tiny. I respect her a bit more now. I think they finally realised that women are the ones buying the Barbies. Well, I think it's also that like toys are kind of the industry isn't what it used to be.
Starting point is 00:23:17 They need to be more inclusive. Well, no, not even that because toys aren't selling like they used to because everything's kind of digital now on apps and video games. That's kind of sad. It gives a shit. Okay, you tell me, what was your favourite toy from the 80s or 90s? The 80s? It was Voltron and it was Ninja Turtles and it was Transformers and Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You had an outfit, a Ninja Turtle outfit, didn't you? I did have a Ninja Turtle outfit. Which is your favourite Ninja Turtle? Well, initially it was Leonardo because he had swords and then I went to Michelangelo because he's more of a party dude. And then I thought, I'm not really a party dude. I'm kind of. You are definitely not a party dude.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I know, that's what I'm saying. You are very much a lone dude. I'm cool but rude like Raphael because he's kind of rude and cool. But then I'm like, you know, I'm probably a big fucking nerd, so I'm probably Donatello. So I've run the gamut, but I'm probably Donatello. So your essence you feel is actually Donatello. Probably, yeah. See, I'm probably Donatello. So your essence, you feel, is actually Donatello. Probably, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:05 See, I'm an April girl from way back. Yeah, you're not Venus de Milo, the female Ninja Turtle? I don't even know who that is. April had a kick-ass yellow jumpsuit that I respected. I respected it a lot. The original Ninja Turtle comics are really – oh, there's still good comics, but the original comics are really good. I just like the pizza as well.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I always thought the pizza they made looked delicious. Yeah, but then – Well, not made, got delivered. That's true. They didn't make their own pizza. Maybe April would bring it down to the sewer for them. Maybe she will. All right, I want to talk about something. You didn't ask me what my toy was.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Oh, what's yours? You said April. It's all about you. I didn't think it was all we were doing. No, my favourite toy. You didn't even ask. I don't even care, so what would I ask? Polly Pocket was the best.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Polly Pocket was your favorite toy? Yeah. I love Polly Pocket. Oh, and My Little Pony. You've never talked about Polly Pocket. Yeah, I know. You never asked me. You know there's a whole lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Actually, you still have never asked me. Why would I never ask you? Why would I ask you about Polly Pocket? Because when I asked you, that's the way that this conversation should go. But I constantly talk about this shit. So why would you even ask me? Did you know Mighty Max, the equivalent of Polly Pocket, the male version?
Starting point is 00:25:07 No. It's like, it's a snake head and there's a man inside. He's got a laser or whatever. But Polly Pocket was like, I don't know, Easy Bake Ovens. It's a little bedroom. It was so cute. A little fantasy land. So you weren't Barbies?
Starting point is 00:25:19 No. God, no. Barbie's boring. Barbie doesn't really do anything. Nah. You just said she's a speedboat captain. Now she is. But back then she couldn't even walk properly.
Starting point is 00:25:27 She was those things back then, but it's more so now. She was like all skinny and big boobs. I don't know. She made me feel bad about myself. I preferred the purple, shiny, sparkly ponies. Well, that's a huge. My little pony is still crushing it. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Huge culture. She clearly was like the male audience. I think it's everybody. I think it's like all audiences. Yeah, well, I've got a cousin who's really into it. I know, yeah. Well, there you. Huge culture. Like the male audience. I think it's everybody. I think it's like all audiences. Yeah, I've got a cousin who's really into it. I know, yeah. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Okay, just quickly on a side note, I want to talk about something. You know when you're feeling a bit blah, like when you realize that the world is burning, you don't know what to do about it. Yeah, I know that feeling that I wake up every day. I've been trying to come up with things to cheer myself up. One of them is avoiding you at all costs. Sounds good to me.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Another one is making fun of you, which is one of my favorite things to do. I don't like that one as much, yeah. All right, settle down, champ. But my other thing to do is to rewatch favorite TV shows. And I know this is such an obvious thing, but I have watched the entirety of Sex and the City. It's very problematic. I totally understand. There's some good stuff in Sex and the City. It's very problematic. I totally understand.
Starting point is 00:26:25 There's some good stuff in Sex and the City. But all the sparkly outfits and all the things, it just made me feel better. Friends do that. I'm glad she didn't end up with Aiden because, quite frankly, she didn't deserve him. Yeah, she didn't. She didn't. They're all assholes.
Starting point is 00:26:36 They really are. They're all terrible humans. However, very enjoyable. But that doesn't mean that they're not compelling characters. Like, you can be terrible and compelling. Yeah, and flawed. I think it's great to see flawed women on TV like that because they're, I mean, particularly back then, they just weren't characters like that.
Starting point is 00:26:51 So anyway, that's one thing. What do you do when you're feeling down in the old? I probably have a nap. My favourite thing to do is have a nap. You know, I'm going to have a nap after this. I've got a whole lot of editing to do, but I think I'm just going to have a nap. You do that when you're happy as well. I do it whenever I can, man.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Sleep when you can. That's my motto. Sleep when you can do that when you're happy as well. I do it whenever I can, man. Sleep when you can. That's my motto. Sleep when you can. Sleep when you're dead. Yeah. I don't know. I was talking to Mason the other day, and I'm just like, I think I've just always been tired.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Like I've never not. Even when I was a kid, I would wake up and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so tired. It's another day. Yeah. Again, those blue light glasses have helped like dramatically. But I think I've got to, I don't know. Yeah, you are. But you've had blood tests. You're not iron deficient. to – I don't know. Yeah, you are. But you've had blood tests.
Starting point is 00:27:26 You're not iron deficient. No. I don't know what's going on. But, yeah, when we first started dating, I always thought it was weird how much he slept. Dear Lord. And you like a bath as well. I'll do a bath.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Gross. Sitting in your own filth. Bloody hell. The trick is to have a bath and then have a shower afterwards. That is so much a waste of water. What am I, fucking Greta Ginsburg? It's not my responsibility. Tungberg.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Sorry. The other thing that I like to do is go for a walk in the nature. Wow, you're so unique. You've got so many interesting hobbies, Claire. I'm just reminding people. Watching Sex and the City and going for a walk. Do you ever have a cosmopolitan with the girls? What else do you do?
Starting point is 00:28:03 Jesus. They're out, mate. So basic, Claire. Oh, that's mean. Well, you are basic bitch over there. Thank you. So anyway, if you want to review the show. Basically bitch about everything.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Let's try it. I'm feeling better already. If you do want to review the show, I don't know why you would, but people do. It's very nice. This is by Italian Jew, as in J-U. It's five stars. It says love the chemistry didn't think james would have chemistry with anyone but mason my suggestion is opposite day james suggests oh this is for the show also why wouldn't i have
Starting point is 00:28:35 chemistry with my wife i think that's important that you'd have chemistry with the person that you're uh decided to spend some of your life with at the very least. My suggestion is opposite day. James suggests a recipe, a memoir, a music thing, and Claire suggests a comic book or an apocalyptic thing. Imagine the pants. Keep up the amazing work. What does he mean imagine the pants? Different pants, Claire.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Ah, different pants. You don't know what I'm talking about. No, I don't get it. That's from my other show, my more popular show. Oh, I know. I don't listen enough. But you talk about comics so much. We don't want you quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:29:05 We've got enough listeners. We don't need you, all know. I don't listen enough. But you talk about comics so much. We don't want you quite frankly. We've got enough listeners. We don't need you, all right? We don't want you. I should listen more. Anyway, if you want to review the show, you can do it in app. In the app. You can. Also, if you would like to recommend us stuff that is better than the stuff
Starting point is 00:29:15 that we've recommended, which always happens because our listeners are smart and excellent and often smarter than us, you can do so by going to – You're so pandering, Claire. They're not all smarter than us. Oh, God. Well, they're smarter than you anyway. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Let me give you that. I think you need a chalkboard behind you. You can call it James's burn board and you can just cross it off as you go. You make me feel better and I like it. That's why I married you. I don't like you that much but I like to make fun of you. Goddamn, it feels good. So you can recommend us stuff at Suggestible Pod on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:29:48 Twitter, and Facebook. We would love to hear from you. This is from Jack Diaz Doherty. Hi, Claire. Hi, James. I got an exclamation mark and you just got a comma. So there you go. Thanks, Jack.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Not sure if this is where I should send a recommendation, but I figured why not. I was lucky enough to see Knives Out at the Denver Film Festival on Halloween night. Since it's not out until the end of November, I must tell you that it is a must-see. And capitals. This would be a great movie to see together as it's a ton of fun,
Starting point is 00:30:21 great mystery, and the performances are just amazing. Love the show and hope you guys get a chance to see Knives Out as soon as you can. Rian Johnson. Ryan. Ryan. You directed The Last Jedi. Ah, Rian Johnson is on fire with this one. There you go, Jim Bob.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I really like Rian Johnson. How do you like them apples? So I'm really looking forward. And it's got a great cast as well. I like Rian Johnson too. You like Rian Johnson too? That person doesn't exist, Claire. He does in my heart.
Starting point is 00:30:47 All right, look, next week, I don't know what we're doing, are we? Why are you so sad for? Because I'm tired, Claire. The world's only ending. I'm just scrolling through Twitter. I'm looking at these hashtags and it's like bushfires, Alan Jones, who's like the worst guy in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 It's just George Powell and it's just a bunch of shit that I'm like, I hate all of this so much. Anyway, next week, it'll be all happy all the time. It'll be, yeah. Come on, get happy. You've got to take your fears away. Actually, Collins, can you replace that with the actual soundtrack from Judy, not me singing it?
Starting point is 00:31:18 The whole song? Come on, get happy. Yeah. It's so fun. I love it. All right, see you next week bye what an absolute fucking downer of an episode no one's coming back after this this podcast is part of the planet broadcasting network visit planet broadcasting.com for more
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