Suggestible - The Sea Beast and Sundressed

Episode Date: July 21, 2022

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.Check out my sister's brand new book! Sundressed: Natural Fibres and the Future of Fashion by Lucianne Tonti - https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/sundressedThis week’s Suggestibles:04:28 PREY05:19 The Black Phone12:53 Sundressed by Lucianne Tonti22:39 The Sea Beast29:21 The Heat33:16 Chicory: A Colourful TaleSend your recommendations to [e-mail], we’d love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL’ Facebook Group. So many things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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England's experiencing heat waves. It's hitting 40 degree days or whatever. I'm freezing here, mate. I wish we had that kind of global war that's happening here. When you turn the heater off, you can hear it in the recording. Nah, it's fine. It's not very professional. Me and Mason turn it on all the time and either you can't hear it

or Colleen's who edits this does something to edit it out. You can edit out a consistent noise in a thing. Poor Colleen. It's like a noise removal. It's even more suffering in the 40-degree heat. That's true. I know a friend of mine who is a poet, Joanna Bennett from Tatterhood, she was saying, yes, it's very hot there.

Wow, that's a really great insight. Her poetry must be amazing. Anyway. What else did she say? Anyway. Water's wet. Incredible. Oh, gosh, it giggles tonight.

I'm really going to giggle tonight. No, so she was telling me about how hot it was and how hot it was with the kids and everything. And I suggested that she freeze watermelon. And I think it's really a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah, big fan. Yeah, you can put like powder pops in little pieces of watermelons

to keep them in the freezer. You don't even need popsicle makers. You certainly don't. We call them icy poles here, which my friends from the UK find hilarious. They're hilarious with their stupid. Popsicles. Yeah, popsicles. I feel like they sound much more.

I couldn't think of another thing. They sound much more jaunty than icy poles. That's true. Icy poles are kind of odd. Anyway, but that's a recommendation if you're swelter in there. Anything else that you would say to people who are experiencing 40 degrees for the first time? We're old hands.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the trick of hot weather is you've got to beat the heat. What does that mean? You've got to make sure you've got to stay cool. You beat it with a stick. No, Claire, that would be hot. You've got to stay cool. Do you know what I mean?

Like with what, though? Stay out of the heat. Keep cool, you know? My major recommendation was don't do very much. Yeah. No, I'm just saying beat the heat. All right. Just don't. God, I'm just saying beat the heat. All right. Just don't.

God, you're so annoying. Why are you so annoying tonight? I don't know. Like towels, ice, like cold towels and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, minimize activity. Keep really hydrated. You just got to, I mean, especially there because they're not built for it,

you just got to sit in it, unfortunately. Yeah, you really do. And it will eventually pass. Fans are actually really good. And stay hydrated. Yeah. Like, not be surprised. Like, it'll just rip the moisture right out of you.

You've got to beat the heat, Claire. The major thing, actually, I reckon, is I always think that fans are overrated, but they're really not. No, they're not. And they can do a lot. Like, if you get a couple of standing fans, you'll be right, mate. A couple of standing fans. Yeah, I right, mate. A couple of standing fans. Yeah, I mean it's not as good as –

And you lie around in your main sitting room with them on rotation with a bit of a wet towel, fine. It's not as good as an air con but it'll do. No, but yeah, but I feel like at a certain point air con just carks it. Yeah, that's true. Or evaporative cooling even before that. Yeah, so the fans actually do a massive amount of – God, man, we's true. Or evaporative cooling even before that. Yeah, so the fans actually do a massive amount of cooling. God, man, we have cooling.

I've never had cooling like before moving here and last year we got cooling put in. My God, changed my entire world, Claire. Talk about beating the heat. That's what we were talking about. Like I didn't even feel the heat. Like you go outside and you're like, oh, God. Then you come inside and you're like, this is normal.

I feel fine. Oh, we're jeans. That has been, this is normal. I feel fine. I'll wear jeans. That has been my gift to you. I appreciate it. Temperature-controlled environment. That's right. Which is your peak environment. It's true.

On a different note, shall we get on with the show? Who are we? Who are you? I'm not sure. I'm suggestible. No, I'm Claire Sondji. I'm Jack Suggestible. And this is my wife, Jane Suggestible.

Correct. Jack and Jane. I thought it was Jack and Jill. No, Claire. Wouldn't that be this is my wife, Jane Suggestible. Correct. Jack and Jane. I thought it was Jack and Jill. No, Claire. Wouldn't that be Jill? I mean Jane. Anyway, my name is Claire Tonti. James Clever is here also as always.

We are married. This is Suggestible Podcast, a podcast where we recommend you things to watch, read and listen to. And usually we go two each. And sometimes I say gentlemen's first to this old boot, so I think I'll say it today. Okay. Go on.

I'm happy to do that, Claire. Great. I'm going to sip my pretend hot chocolate. Yeah, I had a sip of that. You accused me of drinking terrible fake food. I never tried this one before. It's a new choice, bad choice. Tasted like rat poison with NutraSweet in it.

That's how I think all of the things that you eat taste. So, you know. So I watched a movie that I've been looking forward to for a long time. Oh, a new hobby for you. That's right. I thought I'd do something different. A new activity. Do you know what my most anticipated movie is for the rest of the year, Claire? I don't know.

What is it? Downton Abbey. No, Claire. Fuck all that. There's a new Predator movie coming out to streaming. It's called Prey. And I love the Predator. I love half of the Predator movies, fuck all that. There's a new Predator movie coming out to streaming. It's called Prey. And I love the Predator. I love half of the Predator movies, I should say.

And I'm just really looking forward to it. It's set in like the 1700s. There's a Native American woman who's asked to fight a Predator and shit. I'm so excited, Claire. I'm really excited for it. I shouldn't be. But it's also the director of 10 Cloverfield Lane, which is an excellent movie.

I recommended it last week. It's got Mary Lesmith Winstead in it, if you, which is an excellent movie. I recommended it last week. It's got Mary Lesmith Winstead in it, if you haven't seen it. Anyways. When's it coming out? August 5th, so after we're on break. Oh, so you can watch it on your holiday break. Oh, we'll be watching it on our holiday break. I know.

Anyways, The Black Phone is directed by Scott Derrickson, who directed the first Doctor Strange movie, not the latest one. He left that one. He's also got a background in horror. And written by C. Robert Cargill, who is a long-time collaborator. And here's the synopsis, Claire. Here he goes.

Finney Shaw is a shy but clever 13-year-old boy who is being held in a soundproof basement by a sadistic masked killer. Oh, good. You're recommending something hopeful and cheerful. Ah, this is good, Claire. It's really good. When a disconnected phone on the wall starts to ring, he soon discovers that he can hear the voices of the murderous previous victims and they're dead set on making sure that what happened to them doesn't happen to

him. So it stars Mason Thomas as the lead, Madeline McGraw who is his sister, who has like a weird like shining telepathic kind of ability. And Ethan Hawke is the serial killer. It's amazing. It's just incredible performances. Ethan Hawke, obviously, like he's got like different masks that he wears. He's just a really spooky and unsettling performance.

But the kids also, excellent, really good, like really kind of natural performances. You really believe it. It's kind of like a mix between like The Shining and It, if you've seen It, or Misery. Oh, good. It's set also in 1978, so it's got that kind of vintage feel, Claire, so you can't just look on a Google map and find where the killer is, you know what I mean?

You can't do any of that. Not in 1978, Claire. So this dude, he's called the grabber. He like snatches kids off the street like young men. Oh, God. And then, yeah, and so and then what seems to be happening is that they're calling the phone from beyond the grave to speak to the latest boy who's been kidnapped

and some of which he knows and some of which he doesn't. He's calling the phone beyond the grave like the kid is dead. No, sorry, the kid who got kidnapped, he's being held in the house by the serial killer. There's a disconnected old phone on the wall, the black phone, if you will, for lack of a better phrase, what to call it. But it rings and he can talk to the dead. Okay, and to the dead kids that have been murdered previously.

Yeah, and they try to assist him because they've all tried different methods to escape or, and all these kinds of things. And they, and so he's using that to kind of, to, to work his way out of it. It's really like, it's really pared back.

It's not like a super like high intense, like, like thriller, horror. Sorry. It is a thriller. It's not like a really intense horror movie. There's not really a lot of like blood,

blood and gore, but it's really, it's really terrific. Like really suspenseful. i just i i was really looking forward to because i like all the people who who work on this and it just it was just great it was just really really i think you would even like it too because it's like a horror movie but it's not like terrifying at the same time it's it's just like it's got like a really satisfying narrative it all kind of fits together really well like the supernatural elements are there but they're not like too over the top

it's it's really captures that 1978 like depressing grim vibe of like you know a small town kind of under siege and on that kind of thing you know when like it's an era where there's no like real dna testing or anything there's no cameras anywhere and there's a lot of just like incompetent cops that are just like, we don't know. We didn't see him snatch the kid so we don't know who did it. There's just a dude driving around a van with a mask on. They're like, we don't know. We don't know who could be doing it.

Oh, my God, I know. But it's just and they don't like there's a bunch of stuff that they don't kind of, you know, they only lean into things that are important. Like you don't get the killer's backstory and all that kind of thing. Like you get hints of what might kind of be going on there, but you kind of don't really need to know that. I'm sure because this is successful and, you know,

you might get a prequel movie down the line that's like Snatcher Origins or whatever, but at the moment it just stands alone as this. It's still in cinemas, but I think by now I think it's streaming or very close to being, if it's not already. I highly recommend this. All right. If you like this kind of thing, you know, like your Stephen King's and your what.

Actually, I think it's actually based off a book by Stephen King's son, I believe, whose name is Joe something. I'm a boy on a phone in a basement. Yes, it's called I'm a boy on the phone in a basement. Yeah, it's by Joe Hill, who is Stephen King's son. Yeah, who's a writer and he's a comic writer and all that kind of thing. And he looks like. They both have nouns as their surnames.

They certainly do. Why is he not Stephen? Why is he not? I think he wanted to make his way like by himself, I assume. Also, Joe Hill is 50, which means how the fuck old is Stephen King? Is he alive, Stephen King? Yeah, he's alive. Yeah.

Oh, I see. Interesting. I've never even seen what his face looks like. Stephen King? No. Yeah, it looks like this. What does he look like? That's Joe Hill and that's Stephen King.

Oh, I see. Oh, they've got a similar vibe, similar glasses going on. They do, yeah. Interesting. I saw an interesting interview with Stephen King. It was more recently where he's like, you know, when you came out and it was so prolific, so many books just constantly and so many of them were being adapted and then it kind of paused

for a while and now it's happening again. Kind of like It, like both in metaphor and in real life because that's what happened with those movies. And he's like, you know, you're criticised for like writing schlock horror and whatever and he's like, what do you think of all that? You know, what do you think of all your critics? And he's like, they're all fucking dead. I don't care.

That is like something that you would say. I'm slowly learning and you've said it to me for years and someone else said it to me recently. Oh, it's my senior teacher. And I think it's super valuable just that people's reaction to what you make is none of your business. No, can't remember. And I really liked that.

And obviously you want to make things that people enjoy, but at the end of the day you make it because you like it and you think it's cool and interesting or funny or whatever. Yeah. And you make it as well as you can and then the reactions of the people that you really care about will probably filter through to you. Yeah, definitely. But it's not your business to worry about that.

Unfortunately, yeah, you can't control any of that. No. You know, it can hurt but that's the way it goes. Exactly. And if you're not good at making good stuff but, you know. Anyway, I thought that was helpful advice for people who get stuck because I often get really creatively stuck. Sure.

And just in life in general get really bloody worried about what other people think of me. But as Stephen King said, one day they'll all be dead. They'll be dead. We'll all be dead. It doesn't matter. Correct. Exactly.

All right. Also I just sort of. It's still embarrassing. When you do something embarrassing you're like, that's so embarrassing. I can't believe I did that thing 13 years ago and sometimes I think about it and I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe I did that.

I know. I think about that constantly. It's awful but that's also something our brains do, right? They get stuck in thought loops. Yeah. And it's never like usually, oh, remember that really cool thing I did? That cool thing I did, yeah. Maybe some people have that.

Yeah, maybe. I feel like Arnold Schwarzenegger probably has that. Definitely. Remember all those eggs I ate? Remember all my big muscles? Yeah, exactly. But no, our brains are designed to just hold on to the kind of negative stuff and loop them.

When you notice that you're doing it in a loop though, it's helpful. Isn't it a processing thing as well? Yeah. Something like that? Yeah, it would be. Totally, it is. But then you can get caught in it. That's a whole other thing.

You can. So the way to kind of combat it is not to fight it, is just to kind of separate a bit from it and go, that's interesting that my brain's remembering this thing. Ah, yes. Just like without trying to get completely caught up and stuck in it, which kind of is helpful. My turn.

Is it my turn? I would love for you to recommend something to me, Jane. You just called me Jane? That's your name. Jane Suggestible. All right, Jackety Jack Jacks. Here we go. So I have something really cool to recommend this week.

I'm so excited and super proud. So my sister, Lucy Antonte, is the fashion editor for the Saturday Paper. She also writes a column for the Guardian newspaper in Australia called Closet Clinic, and it's all about how to care for your clothes because her passion is sustainable fashion and the future of fashion and caring for our environment and all of those things. And she has written a book. My passion is Spider-Man.

Well, exactly. But everyone has something they love. It's true. Hers is helping the planet a little more, but that's okay. So her book is called Sundress, and it's her very first one. Now, one of the reasons it's so special, other than the fact that obviously she's my little sister and I'm so proud of her, she's also much cooler than me and very fashionable as a person.

You said little sister like she's 11. Yeah. Everyone always thinks she's older than me, not because she looks old but because she's always like, she has a real aura of like, you know, kind of glam and cool, smart, articulate. Anyway, she's awesome. She used to wear a cape for a while in her 20s and I could never pull it off. She completely pulled it off. Was it a cape or a cloak?

No, it was like a sort of a cape, like a coach cape. It was just amazing. She No, it was like a sort of a cape. Sick. Like a coach cape. It was just amazing. She'd want to be sharing her. So fashion forward. Kate and Cope. Kate and Cope. I'm going to say fashion secrets. Past fashion secrets.

Well, yeah, because that's what this book is all about. Yeah. So it's about the future of fashion, obviously, and a deep look at natural fibres and why they're the answer to the climate crisis or fashion climate crisis, really. Because as we all know, we are living at a time where the climate is at crisis point. And particularly the fashion industry is a huge polluter and problematic in this area. And so Lucy's book looks at the natural fibers. So I'll read a little bit of the blurb because

I'm not explaining it very well. But really, before I get to that, I just wanted to say that in between her deep research, which is fascinating in and of itself, she also has these beautiful vignettes of her clothes and her love of her clothes. And she's always been so great with clothes and fabrics. She really loves cherishing them. She buys beautifully tailored clothes that then she, you know, wears and wears for a really long time. Yeah. And she's really instilled in me that idea that we should be nurturing our clothes and caring for them like we care for so many other things in our lives. Absolutely, yeah. And that actually that's part of the answer to this fast fashion movement is to reclaim what we used to have, which is that

idea of mending and cherishing and buying clothes that are made with really high quality fabrics that aren't blended with polyester. And because actually, like, for instance, at the moment, you're wearing a woolen top that I bought you. It's true. It's not a flannel. It's a thermal. It's a thermal, but it's merino wool. And you've been wearing it so much this winter because it's super breathable. Yeah, you bought it for the snow but I've just been like, I'm going to wear this all the time, all times. Yeah, and I have a beautiful warm, it's kind of like a big long cardigan that I wear that's wool, pure wool, and it's just I wear it every morning

and it's so cosy and breathable. It doesn't make you sweat. It doesn't smell and it's so lovelyy and breathable. It doesn't make you sweat. It doesn't smell. And it's so lovely to wear. Yeah. And I think that that's what her point is, that we should be finding clothes that we fall in love with, that we keep for a long time. And it is, I mean, it's easy to say like, hey,

buy something more expensive like up top. But it's not always, always about even. No, and it could be secondhand or, and obviously it does save you money in the long term because you're not just buying crap stuff online. Yeah, and one of her other pieces of advice was that we should be loving the wardrobe we have. Yeah, okay.

So rather than, yes, vintage shopping is also a really good way of doing it, but going into our cupboard and really looking carefully at what we already have, mending the things that we can, repairing or maybe even changing the shape or getting them tailored as opposed to what we already have, which I think is a beautiful thing to think about. And I've started also thinking about my wardrobe as a legacy for my daughter as well and possibly my son too,

the clothes he wants to wear as well. And so that in and of itself is also beautiful, which is a lost art. People used to do that, you know, for generations, pass on beautiful tailored environments is a lost art. People used to do that, you know, for generations, pass on beautiful tailored environments. Absolutely, yeah. It's just that in this kind of fast pace that we're living in, things just seem to be able to be thrown away so much more easily, which we know cannot go on forever because it's damaging our environment.

Anyway, I'll read a little bit about the blurb of this book. So, Lucien Tonti looks beyond sustainable fashion to a future remade by natural fibres. An exploratory deep dive into the art and industry of clothing and an ode to the possibilities in nature, Sundressed is an accessible, engaging and optimistic challenge to designers, farmers and business to think bigger. If we grasp their potential, natural fibres will revolutionise

more than the way we dress. Regenerative farming of fibres like cotton, wool, flax and cashmere can restore biodiversity, soils and water cycles, making it possible to create beautiful clothes while improving the environment. Tonti introduces the farms and fashion houses that are changing the industry. She uncovers a growing hive of activity worldwide from mulberry groves in China and cotton collectors in California to Mongolian goat herds and Australian sheep farmers. Lucy-Anne's extensive research in sustainability is interwoven with her insights and personal experiences

in fashion houses internationally. With a designer's eye for detail and an insider's understanding of the market, Lucy-Anne shows us where our clothes come from and why it matters. Nice. I just, and I know I'm her sister so I'm a bit biased, but it's beautifully written. Absolutely it is, yeah.

Yeah. She's been working on it for? A really long time. At least, what, two to three weeks? She's about a year. Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously on top of all the work she's done prior and writing and everything. She's going to be featured in Australian Vogue as well, which is really exciting.

And so the cover art is stunning. And it's by an artist called Rosie McGuinness, who works at the point where fashion drawing meets life drawing. So her work's been featured in Dior, Vogue, the New York Times, with Penguin Books, Atelier 27, Kinfolk, and so many other places. And people who are really interested in fashion and in art will recognize her work. It's really iconic. So I love the cover art as well. So this is a beautiful book, I think, that would be perfect for someone who is really interested in fashion in your life but also would be a really great gift for someone who has an environmental interest.

It's very accessible, Claire. I think so. I know I'm biased but it's beautifully written too and I'm so excited for her. It seems like a wonderful gift you could get for somebody also. Or just like not even for their birthday, just like here's a book you can read. Yeah, so it's now out in stores. You can buy it online at Booktopia in Australia and it is going to be available in the US and the UK as well.

Nice. And I really recommend going over to follow Lucy Anto and find her work in The Guardian, especially if like me you're challenged with how to care for your clothes, which is the flip side of this, right? Like if you invest in your wardrobe to make them last, you really have to understand how to look after your clothes, which is the flip side of this, right? Like if you invest in your wardrobe to make them last, you really have to understand how to look after your clothes. And so Luce gives lots of great tips at her closet clinic over there as well.

Wonderful. Yay. Now my understanding is that this book is available at all major bookstores, but in addition to that, because by the time people hear this it will definitely be out, is that it's also available in e-book as well. Is that also true? Yes, correct, it is.

Wow, it's good to know that all of these things are accessible both physically and digitally and that will be linked at the very top below. It will. It totally will. And I just, on one other little tiny point about this book, it's dedicated to my dad. And my dad, as most listeners know, I think passed away, is it eight years ago now, seven years ago?

2014, yeah, eight years, nearly eight years ago. And he was a writer and I feel so keenly how proud he would be of my sister and I just feel like he's around this week, you know. And I remember I was talking to my mum about this. There was this tiny memory for me when I was, I must have been in grade five and I won a poetry competition at a local council. Yeah. And I was sitting next to Dad and his writing was his life

and he just loved words. And the sort of soundtrack to my childhood was his like tapping on the keyboard. Yeah. Just constantly whirring away. And I remember they announced my name and there were all these other adults was his like tapping on the keyboard, just constantly whirring away. And I remember they announced my name and there were all these other adults in the room and I was sort of the only kid in the competition. Oh, really?

Yeah, and I won. And obviously I'd made the judge laugh or something. And he turned around and my dad wasn't a huge hugger and he gave me the biggest hug I think I've ever gotten and did this little jig. And I could just tell he like stood right up and he was that tall guy, just stood right up while everyone else was sitting down and just was clapping with these big, had these huge hands

and he had this really big clap. My dad was a really loud person and just was like clapping and just so proud of me. And I just can't help but think how proud he is of my sister. 100%. You know, and I want to convey that to her because the book launches on Thursday. Yeah.

So if she's listening to this, I just wanted to know how proud I am of her and I know how proud our dad is and our mum is beside herself. Oh, absolutely. She's like ringing around local bookstores. Yeah. But, yeah, it's just really exciting. So anyway, I wanted to share that news. It's really, it's super cool.

It's really great. Yeah, it is. And it's also just really beautifully written book. Yeah, it is. That's very easy to talk about. Introducing Uber Teen Accounts, an Uber account for your teen with enhanced safety features. Your teen can request a ride with top rated drivers and you can track every trip on the live map in the Uber app. Uber teen accounts. Invite your teen to join your Uber account today. Available in select locations. See

app for details. All right. What's your next one? Well, Claire, now I feel like an idiot because I don't have any kind of heartfelt book that any of my siblings read. That's the pace of this show, James. I recommend something beautifully written and heartfelt and then you recommend horror. Yeah, that's right. No, this isn't horror. Or some kind of toast for you in future.

No, not this week, Claire. This week I'm recommending a Netflix movie. It's called The Sea Beast. Oh, I heard that you watched this. I did. On the weekend. We had a movie night while you were out gallivanting around town. I know.

I'm going out so much at the moment. It's so exciting. You know, Claire, I'm on the sea beast diet. You see beasts and you eat them? What does that even mean? It doesn't mean anything. I don't know why you said that. But anyway.

You're in a really silly mood. Claire, this is a movie directed by Chris Williams. You might be like, who's Chris Williams? Well, he directed the movie Big Hero 6. He also co-directed the movie Moana. He also directed the movie The Sea Beast. And I'm on the Sea Beast diet, Claire.

Because this story is about a young girl who stows away on a ship of a legendary sea monster hunter turning his life upside down as they venture into uncharted waters. It does sound a little like Moana. It is a bit of Moana. You're welcome.

There's no songs though. Zero songs. Oh, what's their point even? Nah, it's good. This stars Carl Urban. People might know recently from The Boys. He was dreaded and dreaded 2020, 2012. 2020, 2012 he was in the Lord of the Rings movies.

Also the son of Keith Urban. He's not the son of Keith Urban. No. Do you know Carl Urban? Great Aussie country rock icon. Name one Keith Urban song. Married to Nicole Kidman. Name a Keith Urban song.

My name is Keith Urban and I like to wear a turban occasionally. If he weren't a turban. I'm drinking some bourbon. He can't drink bourbon. Keith Urban is sober because he's a known drug addict. So he lives a very straight-edged life. Sorry. And if he wore a turban to one of his country and western shows,

somebody would probably shoot him. My name is Keith Urban and I don't wear a turban. I also don't drink bourbon. I'm still learning. And I love freedom. This is Carl Urban. You know Carl Urban? Yes, I do.

He's cool. He's great. He's cool. What else has he in? The three things that I named. Oh, yes. Sorry, I wasn't listening. I was singing Keith Urban's song in my head.

His iconic song. His bones in Star Trek. Here are some pictures of some roles that Keith Urban's son has played. Yes. I reckon. He's New Zealand. He was in Lord of the Rings. Yes.

I said that. Yes. God damn it, Claire. Gotcha. Gotcha. He was in Thor Ragnarok as well. How do I see Urban? Turban, Rubin, Curban, Slurban, Furban.

No. Can't think of anything else. Durban? Durban? That's not a word. Urban, Furban, curban, slurban, furban. No, can't think of anything else. Durban? Durban? That's not a word. Urban, bourban, turban. That's it. Zurban?

Flurban. Eurban. Zurban. What word? Suburban? Oh, suburban. How could I not have thought of that? Wow.

Incredible. My name is Keith Urban and I like to wear a turban. I also drink bourbon but not really. No, he doesn't. And I don't live in, I'm not suburban. He might be suburban. I really stuffed that up. He probably lives on a ranch that he doesn't run. Yeah, he definitely does.

I'm on Rhymezone.com. What other words? You've got suburban, bourbon, durban, turban, interurban, urban with an E. And then there are 100 ratings. Right. We're going down to 92 here. Okay. Certain, version, burden.

No, but that's not quite right, is it? Ridiculous. You can't have a 92% rhyming rating. It either rhymes or it doesn't. But, you know, if you were writing a song, you would kind of put those words in because they have a similar rhyme. Yeah, you could give it the inflection. Yeah. You could.

Anyway, God bless you, Keith Urban, whatever the songs are that you do. It also stars Zaris Angel Hattor. It stars Jared Harris also. Now, have you ever seen any of the movies How Many Dragons Are There? Yes, I've seen that one. What's it called? There's So Many Dragons. There's So Many Dragons.

Is this enough dragons for you? How to wear. How to train your dragons. How to train your dragons. How to wear your dragons. Drink bourbon in a turban. That's right. Yes.

Now this is basically for a lack of a, comprehensively, if I was just to like in a nutshell, it's how to train your dragon but sea creatures. It's also a bit like, in a nutshell, it's how to train your dragon but sea creatures. It's also a bit like, as you mentioned, it's a little bit Moana. It's Pirates of the Caribbean-esque. It's about like it's got like mythical creatures and big spectacular sea battles and the monarchy ruining everything but maybe it's capitalism, Claire.

Oh, no. Maybe it's capitalism. It's not capitalism. It's quite whimsical though and it's very funny. It's got good message. It's capitalism. It's not capitalism. It's quite whimsical though and it's very funny. It's got good message. It's got good heart. And, again, like Netflix have done some really, like got some really great animated films like this I loved.

I loved Mitchell's versus the Machines. I can probably think of a third example if I spin my wheels long enough and I haven't. But if you're, yeah, I think if you're looking for like a good, you know, a pretty solid animated movie to watch with your kids or even if you just like animated movies, you know, pretty fun storytelling of like mythical beasts and the like, maybe you should check this out.

Why? While you're there, see if you can figure out another word that rhymes with urban. Correct. That we haven't thought about. Exactly. Assertion? That's not quite right, is it?

No. Herman? Herman. Herman. This is a little Keith Urban for you. Nice. I'm Keith Urban. I like Uma Thurman.

I also don't wear a turban. I hate this. Sometimes I don't drink bourbon, but mostly not. I don't ever actually anymore. Do you consider this song a subversion? I'm often sort of a suburban. I'm not about gay conversion, which is good. That's good.

I'm constantly learning. This is great. About being Keith Urban. All right, we need to stop this. Okay. I've noticed that in this Keith Urban song, he's certainly not singing very much. I know.

It's the number one popular Keith Urban song in Spotify, but he's not in it. Maybe it's one of those songs where it's sampled. 151 million. Incredible. 8.3 million monthly listens. Yeah, that's all me because I love whatever that song was. Anyway, it's on Netflix.

It's free because Netflix is free. Just steal an account from somebody else, look through your neighbor's window, figure out the password. This is terrible. Watch it. It's free. Netflix don't mind. They love bleeding money.

Goodness gracious me. You got one more recommender? I certainly do. I certainly do. This is from you, actually, this recommendation because obviously. Is it for everyone to shut up? No. God, I like people talking.

God, you're such a bloody grump. I know. You just want to be left alone in your own quietude. Yeah. Anyway, but you did recommend a super funny movie to me and I really enjoyed it. It's called The Heat with Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy. And now I'm slowly making my way through some action movies.

That's good. Because people said to me, Claire, Claire, you were wrong about not liking action movies and so I'm trying to be proved wrong. And so far, yes, I have been proved wrong. I will say that The Heat, I'll go and explain what it's about and then I will tell you my opinion. FBI agent Sarah, played by Sandra Bullock, comes to Boston to track an elusive drug lord

and bag a promotion for herself. However, before she can interrogate a lead, she must deal with Mullins, played by Melissa McCarthy, another cop who likes to go solo, solo, solo. Solo? No, I don't know. That's from a song. I can't remember what song. Anyway, it's directed by Paul Feig and written by Katie Dippold.

I'm in such a silly mood tonight. Can't figure it out. Anyway, are the people that star in it Damien Bichere, Marlon Wayans and Michael Rappaport? Oh, Rapp? Yeah, I know him. Yeah, I said that. I know all these people because I've seen this movie. I had to really concentrate to say his name, Rappaport. Oh, Rappaport. Yeah, I know him. Yeah, I said that. I know all these people because I've seen this movie.

I had to really concentrate to say his name, Rappaport. Anyway, initial reactions, bloody funny. Yes. Like Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy, amazing chemistry. But Melissa McCarthy, bloody hilarious. And just the amount of lines that was so good. I just loved the pace of it. I thought it was great.

There are some fairly like there's a lot of like anti-albino content. Boy, is there. They go hard on the anti-albino content. I felt like it's very funny but there is some very racist and, yeah, sort of not very nice jokes in it. However, there's some very funny stuff too. It's quite mean. It's very mean. I love how mean.. It's quite mean. It's very mean.

I love how mean. Melissa McCarthy is so mean. She's so mean. I love mean, like unhinged Melissa McCarthy. She's so mean. So fun. Yeah. Oh, my God.

I feel like. It actually makes me chuckle like how loud I go. Yeah, I know. Do you know what I think I liked about it too? I can see why you love it because you love some mean comedy. And so it really, I like that about it. Yeah. That see why you love it because you love some mean comedy and so it really, I like that about it. Yeah. Like incredible. And she just goes so far and it's excellent. And I think Sandra Bullock plays an excellent straight woman. Yeah, she's great. Which is really cool and very pared back in lots of ways, which is like very repressed and it's

quite hilarious and fun. I did fall asleep towards the end, but that's no shade on the heat. I just always fall asleep. Yeah end but that's no shade on the heat. I just always fall asleep. Yeah, you say you're working your way through movies. Does that mean you're going to be doing like 20 minutes at a time every night? Yeah. Is that what you mean?

Really working hard at this watching of the movies thing. Anyway, it's from 2013 so that actually made me think, okay, now I just don't think you would make some of those jokes. No, probably not. But, you know, everything, there's a context to everything when you watch it, you know. Yeah, yeah, I know. I think it was particularly some of the racist stuff I thought

was pretty terrible in Poor Taste and I still thought there's a lot to love about it and it's a real romp and a fun time. Yeah. Wow, I can't wait for you to finish it. You can give us your final thoughts next week. If they have thoughts about this show, they can leave their final thoughts as a review, Claire. You can actually do it in-app.

You open up your app of choice, whatever you're listening to this on, except if you're at BigSandwich.co where we have a bunch of bonus content, Claire. We do. But, for example, Mr. Cashback has done this, given us a five-star review. Thank you so much. You said five stars.

Nice, I guess. I don't know. I enjoy this. So that's all you need. And you so much. You said five stars. Nice, I guess. I don't know. I enjoy this. So that's all you need. And you have no idea what that means to us. It means the absolute world to us. The world. The world.

It actually does. Do you have a little tour for us? I do. If you would like to write in to suggest a part of either a recommendation or a comment. Why would I write in? I'm on the show, Claire. Why would be the purpose of me writing in?

I'd have to bring more recommendations. All right, calm down. Ridiculous. Calm your little farm over there. Ridiculous. Relax your little horses. Bring in your little sheepies. I'll bring them in.

Calm down. Can I read my letter now? I would love to hear it. Are you calm? Is it from me? Are you listening? No, it's from lovely Emily. Okay.

Listen. Hi, both. Thanks, mate. My partner and I are long-time listeners No, it's from lovely Emily. Okay. Listen. Hi, both. Thanks, mate. My partner and I are long-time listeners of the podcast and are big fans. Yes. Capital big fans. We listen only each week as well as to the weekly planet, and they are major highlights, particularly when life's a bit rubbish.

Oh, mate. I have a recommendation. It's a game on the Switch called Chicory, a colorful tale. It's so fun and wholesome. You play as a character that, without any spoilers, suddenly gets put in a position with a lot of responsibility and how they deal with that along with big emphasis on mental health, the importance of friends, self-belief, apologising and forgiveness.

This looks really fun and bright and colourful and cool. Yeah, that's what she said. The world is entirely black and white but you colour it in as you go and can go wild with the colours. The characters in the game are very charming and well thought out. I really enjoyed playing it alone but I think it would be a great one to play with kids, particularly as it's split into defined chapters so you don't get stuck playing it for too long.

I'm not sure what age it would be suitable for as I don't have any kids in my life and some of the scenes can be a bit scary. Yeah, gotcha. Perhaps I'm a wimp. But overall I think it's a great game to play, chat about and enjoy in a group. Thanks so much for the lovely podcast. Have a lovely break over August. We'll really miss you.

All the best, Emily. Thank you so much, Emily. And what a delight this game looks. It looks real. I love like fun little indie games and especially ones that like I've never, ever heard of this. There's so many games. Yeah, jiggery.

That sounds cool. Yeah, it looks really cool. I really like the art style and all the little animations that are going on in this. Oh, so fun. All right. Well, that'll be really fun. Thank you so much, Emily, for writing in. Really appreciate it.

You can just hit us up at suggestapod.gmail.com. And as Emily did mention, we are going on break for August. Yes, we're going to keep mentioning that because people will be asking us what's going on there. I know. Now, Big Sandwich, our subscription service, will still be running. That's right. With some content that you've pre-recorded. That's right.

We are recording it. Yeah, you are recording it. Now, the Facebook group Planet Broadcasting Great Mates is also going on hiatus. Just a little pause for a month. Yes. We had to really convince our wonderful colleagues, who is our editor, to go go on break but I really think he needs a good rest. We all need a good rest. Rest is a really important thing.

Yeah, rest is really important. And so our whole team is going on a little rest. However, there will be the subgroups that are still around through Facebook and also there's Reddit and another platform that I didn't recognise. There's a bunch of other, what is it, Discord or something? Yeah, Discord will still be there. Twitter will obviously still be there but we won't be posting anything. So there's lots of ways to still connect with the group.

It's just and the feed will still have some episodes uploading but that will be older content. Yes, that's right. Or little samples of Big Sandwich stuff that's already been pre-recorded. That's right. Bits of this and that, that's right. Bits of this and that. So we're really going to miss everyone on our break, but I do think it's the first time you've taken a really long break

in a really long time. So I'm really looking forward to it. And just as a side note, I decided we should do it after I saw Brene Brown posted she was taking her team off for three whole months because she really deeply believed that everyone needed a good rest. And I know it's a privilege but I do think that with everything that's happening in the world, it can be so overwhelming

and sometimes social media and all of that stuff, we could just forever be going on 24 hours a day, right, without stopping. Do you ever feel like, Claire, that maybe, you know, that too much social media, you know? It's so annoying. You look around and you're like, everyone's looking at their phones. Do you ever feel like that? It's their phones. Do you ever feel like that?

It's so annoying. Do you ever feel like that? Of course I do, James. Don't be so annoying. You're just like making fun of my deeply helpful news about the state of things. Yeah. Anyway, but yes, I do think that.

So this is what I thought would be really good and so the whole team are getting a little break. That's right. But we will be back. So, yes. Time to look up from our phones, James. Look at the sky. The very first day of September, if that is the first day back.

Yes, exactly. So hopefully everyone. Which is a Thursday. So I guess we will be back on a Thursday. Yeah. The very first day of September. Yeah, September. We can tell you all about our little holiday.

Yeah, because you want to hear it. You'll absolutely want to know what we're up to. I know. That's the worst, isn't it? It's the worst. It's like everyone's in Europe at the Yeah, because you want to hear it. You'll absolutely want to know what we're up to. I know. That's the worst, isn't it? It's the worst. It's like everyone's in Europe at the moment.

Do you want to hear about my holiday? No. I don't. Do you want to see any pictures? No. That's worse. That's way worse. No.

Oh, you've compiled? Oh, you're going to do it together. Great. Really good stuff. But if I look at your Instagram, all right, I'll glance and I'll go, great. Anyways, look forward to our Instagram. Well, you know what I will say? People tend to enjoy you talking about holidays because you just complain

about them the whole time. Well, they should be better. All right, let's go. This has been Suggest a Pod. Thank you to Colleen for editing this week's episode. Thank you so much. And we'll see you soon. Bye.

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