Suggestible - Today will be different you old boot!

Episode Date: July 17, 2019

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.This week's Suggestibles:New Book Cheat Podcast with Claire & JamesFace AppRoc...ketmanEddie the EagleAmyKatherine Ryan's Glitter RoomThe Wonderful Story of Henry SugarToday Will Be DifferentFrankie FishLast BreathIn the Wee Small HoursFrank Sinatra Movies on Caravan of GarbageFollow the show on Instagram and Twitter @suggestiblepod or visit www.planetbroadcasting.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:22 Close friend calling me an old boot. I have. This is our podcast Suggestible Hello I suggest that face app that makes you look old So you look at it and you go Oh god Don't
Starting point is 00:00:31 It's like looking into your future It's awful It is terrifying Because you know what I think it is? What? It's like we're all going to die It's like a reminder of that Correct
Starting point is 00:00:39 It's like this is you one day Like this is all the facade What you look like now I don't think that human beings should be able to look into their future old selves. I think it's really bad for us. I think it's doing something to your psyche. Anyway, I'm Claire Totti and you're James Clement. I am.
Starting point is 00:00:52 And this is Suggestible Pod. And we do what on this show, James? We suggest things, a couple of things each. Could be a book, could be a movie, could be an app. Staring into your own inevitable mortality. Yeah, that's right. We're just a pair of old boots, both of us. We're both old boots, aren't we, Claire? It's so fun to say. You're an old boot. You're an old boot. I love it. I think it's because we did that podcast book cheat this week and
Starting point is 00:01:15 they were talking about fishing and pulling up old boots. Oh yeah, we did do book cheat. People should check that out. The Old Man and the Sea. That's a good recommendation. Suggestible, whatever this is called. It is. We'll link that below. Correct. Well, you got in sneakily fast with your recommendation of the Face app, but still. That wasn't a real recommendation. All right, gentlemen's first.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Go on, shoot. Okay, I've got a real one. Okay. Your old boot. I finally got around to watching Rocketman. Ooh. Which has been out for ages, but it's not doing very well financially, which is a shame because it's much better than Bohemian Rhapsody.
Starting point is 00:01:49 You look like you feel really sad about that. Well, you know what? Elton John has everyone's money, so it's fine. He'll be fine. It's fine. But it's fun. I talked a little bit about this on the Weekly Planet, but it's the same director as, well,
Starting point is 00:02:04 it's sort of the same director as, well, it's sort of the same director as Bohemian Rhapsody because the director of Bohemian Rhapsody, Bryan Singer, who's the worst, he left and for various reasons, personal and professional, also he's a terrible person and probably a sex criminal. A sex pest. Oh no. That seems to be a very common recurring theme. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:20 It's half of Hollywood and maybe the world even it seems. Yay, the world's a fun place to be. So Dexter Fletcher stepped in as a director. I like his name. Do you remember Press Gang, the show Press Gang? Okay, never mind. Dexter Fletcher. Dexter Fletcher.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Do you remember me and you seeing him in a market in London in 2008? No, I don't. You know, I don't have a memory for a lot of things. Also, I don't. Actually, I have a vague recollection. It was at Notting Hill. Something like that. Yeah, because that was the only market we went to in London.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Okay, then yes, it was. And I vaguely remember you having a brain melt. Yeah, because it's Dexter Fletcher, actor and director. And me not giving a F. Yeah. Anyway, he directed Rocketman as well. So he came in and finished off Bohemian Rhapsody. And then he did this movie.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And this movie is, oh, you've seen it as well, haven't you? Correct. Yeah, so it's less kind of, and then this happenedody and then he did this movie. And this movie is, you've seen it as well, haven't you? Correct. Yeah, so it's less kind of, and then this happened and then this happened and then this happened. It's less like a biopic. Yeah, because they kind of play fast and loose with the music at different times. So they're not tied into, well, he wrote this song at this time and he only met this person at this time
Starting point is 00:03:18 so they had to have, and he didn't even know this song because this song came out three years after. There's none of that. So you don't need to worry about it. It's kind of him doing a loose retelling. It's Taron Egerton who people would know from. Egerton? Egerton?
Starting point is 00:03:30 I can't remember. Egerton. He's from the Kingsman movies. He's also in that movie where him and Hugh Jackman go skiing together and he jumps real far. Eddie the Eagle. Oh, I love Eddie the Eagle. That is a great suggestion.
Starting point is 00:03:41 You're getting a lot in. You're three so far. Thank you. So he plays Elton John. He doesn't really look like Elton John. Except for the balding. They do that is a great suggestible. You're getting a lot in. You're three so far. Thank you. So he plays Elton John. He doesn't really look like Elton John. Except for the balding. They do that well. They do that.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Oh, there's so many great balding. He's got a series of balding wigs. And that's the thing about this movie because it was supposed to be made in like the early 2000s. And Elton John had kind of been pushing it to get it done. Because it's his concept, right? Yeah. He's the driver behind how he wants to do it. I believe so.
Starting point is 00:04:03 And they wanted to do it as kind of a PG kind of thing and but but it's it's R-rated uh when I think Elton John said something like because there was nothing about my life was PG because it's got you know it covers a lot of drug use and gay sex and things like that and nothing nothing like incredibly graphic you know I guess it's R-rated for the drug use because to me I feel like the sex scenes it's pretty tame it's very tame I mean I guess obviously the way that they for the druggies because to me, I feel like the sex scenes- It's pretty tame. It's very tame. I mean, I guess obviously the way that they depict them because they are gay sex scenes between two blokes, but I didn't think they were R-rated.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I think there's a lot more explicit stuff that happens. If you want more explicit gay sex stuff about a closeted music professional, you can watch that Liberace movie with Michael Douglas. And his terrible manager. They all have terrible managers. They all have terrible managers. It's like that Netflix doco about Amy Winehouse called Amy. Yeah, I've got to watch that Liberace movie with Michael Douglas. And his terrible manager. They all have terrible managers. They all have terrible managers. It's like that Netflix doco about Amy Winehouse called Amy. Yeah, I've got to watch that.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Dan Snick and another one, Suggestible. That is just so heartbreaking. Yeah. And it really shines a light on how much the music industry, and I'm assuming other industries as well, just use up creatives. Yes. And spit them out at the other end with drug issues. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:04 They just ring him out. It's like he's doing six shows a week. Yeah, like there's horrible like kind of guys in there who, and mainly men actually, who are all about the money and just pushing them to do things they don't want to do. Amy Winehouse's dad was a big driving force as well behind her. He was, yeah, but it wasn't just him. No, it wasn't him.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah, it was sort of her record label and her management everyone like there's a story in that doco where she is so strung out on drugs that she's passed out in her flat but they need her to go over to europe to do this massive festival and so what they do is they don't wake they can't revive her so they just put her on a private jet, completely out to it, and then put her on a stage. And the footage of watching her stumble around that stage, because they were making money out of her image, being this kind of drugged out sort of mess. Yeah, they killed her, definitely.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. But I also think it was the public, because the public perception at the time was like, oh, she's some, you know, look at Amy Winehouse, what's she up to now? Party, coke sniffing, whatever. And she died, inevitably, obviously. Of an overdose. Yeah. And then everyone's like, oh, she's some, you know, look at Amy Winehouse, what's she up to now? Party, coke sniffing, whatever. And she died inevitably, obviously. Of an overdose. Yeah, and then everyone's like, oh, wait a minute, maybe we shouldn't have just kind of made light of this whole situation.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah, and laughed at her because it became so much more about her as an image, which is I guess what is in Elton John in the Rocketman show that he's so much about this stage image and persona and he's so much larger than life that you forget that he's so much about this stage image and persona. Yeah. And he's so much larger than life that you forget that he's actually a human being. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, look, it is kind of warts at all.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And even things like you mentioned the hair, like the hair loss is like not a big part of it. You're obsessed with the hair loss. No, but I just think you don't really, because he's a vain man, you know what I mean, in real life, you know what I mean, because he's had hair plugs and wigs and whatever. Yeah, yeah. But they chronicle kind of that and I think that's unusual. Like you don't really see, especially someone who's the driving creative force and go, no, put all the hair loss stuff in and whatever and, you know, and how people call me ugly and all those kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah. But there's a few things I really liked about it as well, like his relationship with his writing partner who was the guy, the Billy Elliot guy. Yeah. He's a kid. He's a kid. He's a full-blown man.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But Billy Elliot's a great guy. Yeah. And they have a fascinating kind of relationship and how one of them bears the brunt of the public persona and being out in town and the other one's writing the lyrics and, you know, getting a lot of the money but not. But not the fame. Not the fame. So he can walk down the street.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And he lives on a ranch, right? I have no idea. You get the idea that he's this very steady, calm guy. And you talked about that scene where Elton John comes out to him basically and says he's gay. And the guy's just like, all right. Like it's, yeah. Yeah, like really chewed out about that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Which was obviously, I mean, I don't know whether that exactly happened, but he obviously knew and didn't care because they're still friends. But the way they handle stuff, because he gets married, and I think he's actually been married a couple of times, but they show one in this to a woman, I should say. He's also married to a man at the moment. Correct. He's very happy in the relationship. They've got a couple of kids.
Starting point is 00:08:01 But the way that they show the breakdown of that relationship is they get married and then they kind of wake up together in separate rooms and then the next thing they're at the kitchen table together and they just sort of start like silently crying and he's like, I'm sorry. And that's it because she knows that he's gay and he knows that she knows and there's not really, you don't need people throwing plates of food at each other and do you know what I mean? It's just kind of done really quietly and quickly.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And respectfully. Yeah, and respectfully. Exactly, yeah. Because he speaks well of her, like, today. You know, after you watch these things, you look up a lot of, like, how much of this is true and who's this person and what do they look like now? How much is he balding and how is it real? Yeah, you have to snap along.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I think you should see Rocket Man. It's still in theatres, but probably not for long. But you can probably wait. It's just such a great reminder of how brilliant the music is. I mean, I felt like that after the Queen movie as well. I went back and listened to Queen. Yeah, undoubtedly that is the best part of that movie. And the performance is good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And also the costumes. Oh, my goodness. They basically create all of Elton John's costumes, recreate them. And when you go and Google the originals, they're identical. And they're just bloody incredible, like giant glittery wings and crazy helmets and he comes out as the Queen at one point. It's just this whole era that I never really saw as a kid. I didn't grow up with his music.
Starting point is 00:09:18 My parents were really into classical music. So it's this kind of great look at rockers. And it was also like the Elton John that we had growing up was like the 90s Lion King, Candle in the Wind Elton John. And it was also like the Elton John that we had growing up was like the 90s Lion King candle in the wind Elton John. Correct. It wasn't this Elton John. No. And it was interesting even things like they talk about how he was responsible
Starting point is 00:09:34 for like 4% or 5% of record sales in the world at the time. It is. And that is like you can't even – like you know he's big, which has kind of surprised me why this movie hasn't been doing better. I guess maybe the Bohemian Rhapsody kind of took the wind out of this and because it's high rated, you know, you can't take anybody. You wouldn't really take your young kids to it. Or it might put off a person going to it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah. Maybe like if you're a, you know, a grandma or whatever, go to a matinee or whatever. And you're sort of worried about how explicit it might be. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Maybe that's what it is too. But it's definitely worth seeing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It's incredible. You're right. And to see that type of Elton John and just the scale of the record sales. Yeah. Whoa, so insane. Yeah. And then the idea that his writing partner has written some of the most iconic lyrics of all time.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I still don't know who he is or what he looks like. I Googled him, but even then, if you walk in the room now, I can't remember. Okay. You should Google that. I'll Google it while you do your next thing. All right. Okay. Here I go.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Bernie Taupin. Bernie Taupin? Taupin, yes. I don't know. Sorry, keep going. That name is like Teflon. It doesn't stick in my head. Bernie Taupin.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah. Okay. Good on you, Bernie. Taupin. Good lyrics. Yes. Your song. What's your favorite Elton John song?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Your song, definitely. Yeah, correct. Love it. Excellent. Also, the Saturday Night song. That's a great song. What's your favourite Elton John song? Your song, definitely. Yeah, correct. Love it. Excellent. Also, the Saturday Night song. That's a great song. Brilliant. Introducing Uber Teen Accounts,
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Starting point is 00:11:32 self-deprecating, but also not quite kind of confident in the way that she talks about her life and her choices. She has a hilarious bit about kind of, you know, those intense moms at school, which I really loved. And the way she describes this mum who's like hounding her, who's like the head of the like parent committee and wants her to bake all these baked stuff and everything. She describes her husband as the colour of ham. He's always in a bike helmet.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Ham-coloured bike rider. And I just love that idea for some reason. It made me laugh so much. Yeah. It just like really described people in their middle age. It's really funny. Yeah. I kind of, I only played it because I saw you'd watched it because I saw it in the whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Watch again. And I'm like, I'll check this out. Because I watched a bit of Aziz Ansari's new one. I'm like, oh, this ain't much. But that Catherine. Oh, no, I've never done that set of it before. That was a great one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 We've seen, we saw him in concert like a few years back but this this new one is just like it feels very forced and just it's also not very funny anyway Catherine Ryan though yeah brilliant really funny I loved the way she talked about she grew up in Canada yeah but kind of the arse end of Canada so her hometown sounds terrible she talks about her sister who's this Canadian hippie who lives in the motions and like sews her own clothes and knits her own undies or something and has a moon cup and, you know, just I love that. And then her younger sister and her relationship with her
Starting point is 00:12:55 and then her parents. And it's just a really like great look at what it means to be a woman, I think, in your 30s as well and be a single parent. And she talks about the discrepancies between being a single parent as a man or a woman because there is a difference because there is that kind of eligibility factor of like a single man who's doing it by himself with his kids and whatever. There's definitely that element.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah. But it's not so much the reverse. It's kind of expected or like, oh, that poor woman. Or not even that. It's more like, ooh, she couldn't keep on to her partner. Like often that's actually the reaction. It's not of expected or like, oh, that poor woman. Or not even that. It's more like, oh, she couldn't keep on to her partner. Like often that's actually the reaction. It's not even pity. It's like she failed somehow because she ended up pregnant and alone.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Whether or not it's because her marriage failed. And often if marriages fail, often it tends to be this judgment. And I think sometimes it's other women that do this, like judgment around why that marriage failed or whatever. Well, I feel like I get kudos for things that you don't. Like when I'll take him to the cafe, which I do quite often. Yeah. Because he's your son.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yeah, he's my son. They're like, oh, you're looking after him today. I'm like, yeah, because he's my fucking son. Yeah. Because I live with him, I see him every day. Yeah. And you get literally, I've watched. Does anyone ever say to you, oh, you're looking after your son today?
Starting point is 00:14:08 No, of course they bloody don't. And you're like, you'll go up to the shops and go shopping. And I see people's faces like, oh, what a good dad. And then there are, or. Maybe it's just because I'm around during the day. Because, you know, I work from home. No, it's a genuine thing. Also, women love to see blokes with kids, like looking after kids and babies.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh, mate, it's such a, like, a thing for women massively. That's my plan. Whereas I don't think the same thing for blokes. They see a woman with three kids and go, oh, there's a bit of all right. You know, I don't think it's definitely a double standard. And she talks a lot about that. I also really love the way she described how she's decided that she's just taken herself off the dating scene
Starting point is 00:14:47 because she loves men but she doesn't like them in her house. Yes. And I just thought that was really funny. Anyway, highly recommend Catherine Ryan, Glitter Room on Netflix. You turned it off, though, before the Hamilton bit. Yeah, you warned me. I was like, spoilers Hamilton. Because I know you want to say it.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yes. I think it's probably the weakest bit of the show as well. Oh, okay. Yeah. But that being said, it feels like a story that didn't happen, which I, yeah. But it's great. It's really good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And In Trouble is her first one. I haven't seen that. I should watch that one. Yeah, you should watch that. All right. Moving along. How much time we got? We got plenty of time.
Starting point is 00:15:20 It's 15 minutes. Go, go, go. Okay. This is an old book that's one of my favorites, but I thought I'd bring it back because I'm such a good dad. I'm reading Fantastic Mr. Fox to our son at the moment. By Roald Dahl. By Roald Dahl.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Because I thought maybe he's ready for a slightly longer, more novelized kind of book. Chapter one. Which he sort of is. He really enjoys it. Yeah. And he's got pictures, I guess. It helps. But look, Roald Dahl may be anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That's entirely possible. Do go on to an episode about him and there's some definite grey area. But, you know, he's from a different era. He's a war veteran. He used to write from his house. Yes. Wow. With a pen and all.
Starting point is 00:16:02 He had ideas. And he would think of those ideas and he would use a typewriter to bring them to life and then he'd send those words to a publisher. All right, all right. I do have two fun Roald Dahl facts before we keep going. Then they'd bind them in a book. Shut up, you old boot.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Hey, it's so fun. It works on so many levels. It's affectionate and insulting. Anyway, Roald Dahl had a little shack out the back and he had this very specific way of writing in this big chair that he would kind of enclose himself in with like all these like fluffy blankets and a special table and he would always write with grey lead pen.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I don't know why I'm pencil, not grey lead pen, grey lead pencil. And the other thing I find interesting about Roald Dahl is that he would carry a book with him everywhere and the idea for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, ostensibly one of his most famous books, just came about because he was driving and the idea popped into his head. So he pulled the car over and wrote one line, a little boy grows up in a chocolate factory in this book. And then he came back to it like a year later or so and started to write the story. And I just love that idea that he was just walking around a bit like if
Starting point is 00:17:03 you've ever read the BFG, kind of like collecting dreams. Yeah, right. Collecting ideas and storing them. It's such a better, Mason actually does a similar thing with the things that he's, like he carries an actual notebook. I think I should do that because I just write notes in my phone. I look back and I'm like, what does that even mean? Yeah. It's like serendipitous.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And then it says like four to seven. And I'm like, what does that mean? Is that a food I'm supposed to buy? We had a pad of sticky notes in our bedroom And there's just something like that written down Like serendipity and lots of numbers And I asked you, I'm like what actually is this? It's not a password
Starting point is 00:17:38 I don't know One day they'll come to you When you're an old man The book I'm recommending is Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. Just kidding, that book sucks. That sucks. That's the worst book. I'm not a fan of either, though, a huge fan of either of those books.
Starting point is 00:17:52 No, come on. Get Snappin', Miss Fantastic Miss Crocs. The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar. And the reason I like this book, it's a collection of short stories, but I think the first one in it is, and it's called this. The book is called that, and it's a collection of short stories, and one of the short stories is also called The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar. But basically it's about a man, like a rich man who has everything and he's at a house party in a
Starting point is 00:18:13 mansion and he's bored so he wanders the library and he wants for nothing but he also has nothing and he picks a book off a shelf and then it's kind of a book within a book because it's a handwritten notebook about a man who learns through meditation to perform tricks. Things like he could cover his eyes, but he could still see. So like he could completely, you know, they talk about how they wrap his head up and he can still ride a bike around and whatever. So he reads this book and then he thinks, well he thinks well okay i'm going to give this give this a go so he trains himself to to see through playing cards uh so he can make more money so it takes so he doesn't go out for like five years he just sits at home and and and stares into a flame and meditates until he can look through playing cards so then by the time it's done he
Starting point is 00:18:59 goes out to the casino and he wins a bunch of money, but then he's kind of like, what am I doing? Like through this meditation and introspectiveness over the years, he's realized that, you know, he's kind of, he has no, he has this great power, but he's got no purpose. He sounds just like you, Mr. Sunday Movies, staring into your laptop for five years. Five years. And then being like, maybe I should steal from a casino. Yeah. So then what he ends up doing, and I'm, I am spoiling it, so skip ahead if you want, but he uses
Starting point is 00:19:28 his abilities to go around the world and win money and then give them to charity. And that's kind of the, and so it's this, it's this incredible book and I've always loved it since I was a kid. And it just reminded me of, yeah, I think it's a good life lesson and it's a good kind of, I don't know, it's just a good fun kind of tale. And it's a good life lesson and it's a good kind of, I don't know, it's just a good fun kind of tale. And it's a book within a book as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:49 You love books with short stories. I do. And actually I do too because it's snappy. You can read one, you can dip in and out. And sometimes you might not come back to it for ages, but if it's short, then you've read a complete story in one setting. Yes. So you don't do that thing where sometimes with books, if I put it down for too long,
Starting point is 00:20:04 I can't remember where I started from and I get confused with the characters. I have a suggestible too, moving right along. Okay, I'm ready. We've got, we're at 19 minutes. I love that book. I'm going to read Henry Sugar again. You've read that before though, haven't you?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah, yeah. You've recommended it to me sporadically over like the many years that I've known you. Yes. I love it. It's great. I've got a book too. It's called Today Will Be Different by Maria Semple.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Have you heard of Maria Semple? I've not. Okay. So she's actually a TV writer and she wrote on Saturday Night Live. She wrote Mad About You with the wonderful Helen Hunt and Paul Reiser. Is that how we say it? I love that TV show, by the way. The 90s.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Brilliant. Never really saw it. But it's in the Seinfeld universe. Yeah. Oh, is it? In the same universe. Absolutely. And I think Phoebe from Friends is in it. Brilliant. Never really saw it. But it's in the Seinfeld universe. Yeah. Oh, is it? In the same universe. Absolutely. And I think Phoebe from Friends is in it.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah, because Ursula is in it, Phoebe's sister or something. Yeah, so is it in the same universe as Friends? I guess so. Anyway, it's set in New York. Anyway, that's not why I'm recommending it. So she was a writer on that. She also wrote for Beverly Hills 101, for Arrested Development, which I know is one of your favorite shows, for Ellen and also Suddenly Susan.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Do you remember Suddenly Susan? I remember Suddenly Susan. Throwback. Yeah, so she's a TV writer and she became a novelist. She's been around a while then. Yeah, she's been around a while. She's in her 50s, 55. But she also wrote a really famous book called, well,
Starting point is 00:21:19 famous around Seattle called Where'd You Go, Bernadette? And it's all about how much she hates Seattle. And it's still one of the top selling books in Seattle, even though she just rips Seattle to shreds in it. So she's very kind of funny. Anyway, the book I'm recommending today will be different. It's one of my favorites. It's set over just one day.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And the protagonist, Eleanor, is an animator who wrote like a children's TV series that became really famous. And since then, she's done nothing much else. She's trying to write a graphic memoir about the flood girls who were like historically in her family. But really, she's a screwball with a soul who's trying to make her life work and live her best life in inverted commas. And it just all goes completely up the creek. Is she a likable protagonist? She's very likeable.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yeah, she's very likeable and her life kind of spins out of control. At the start of the book, she's late for work and she's hopping around an apartment trying to put her boots on and then she falls over and then she runs into work with the coffee and everyone's already in the meeting and they're like, you're late, Catherine, whatever your name is. What are you doing? Catherine can never get it together, can she?
Starting point is 00:22:23 No, I want to read you just the opening line. Can I read you the opening line of the book? Because it's so funny. So I just want to read it to you because it jumps straight in. Here we go. Okay. Because the other way wasn't working. The waking up just to get the day over with until it was time for bed.
Starting point is 00:22:38 The grinding it out was a disgrace. And a front to the honour and long shot of being alive at all. The ghost walking, the short-tempered distraction, the hurried fog, all of this I'm just assuming because I have no idea how I come across. My consciousness is that underground like a toad in winter. Believing the world a worse place just by being in it, the blindness to the destruction in my wake, the Mr. Magoo. If I'm forced to be honest, here's an account of how I left the world last week.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Worse, worse, better, worse, same, worse, same. That's pretty good. Sounds about right. Yeah, and it's so great because you kind of just leap into it. She jumps off the page. She's got this really kind of gorgeous son, Timby, who she drops at school. Is that spelling it right?
Starting point is 00:23:20 No. No. Anyway, and he's very kind of like calm and genuine and flat to her like crazy manicness she's a bit menopausal a little bit like all over the place but she has a really kind of sharp sort of critique of the seattle like because she's quite wealthy so it's sort of like a sharp look at like the wealthy ridiculousness of people and the yoga pant wearing, you know, mums with their coffee cups. Those losers.
Starting point is 00:23:48 No, not just that. It is. And her husband, she suspects, is having an affair and it kind of just tumbles along in this ridiculous way and then jumps into the past. She has a crazy sister who lives in New Orleans and it jumps a little bit into her world. But it's just a rollicking good time and it's all said over one one day and it's just, there's a lot of very funny lines. It's an easy read, not too long. Did you just start this like between last week and this week?
Starting point is 00:24:12 So you. No, I'd read this. This is the one I've read previously, but I jumped back into it because sometimes I just like to jump back into it because it makes me giggle. Cause it's that whole idea really of, you that starting your day always thinking that it's going to be better than the day before and i mean you don't i don't know if you can relate to this what's just like with all the good intentions that you have set up and it doesn't it all just kind of comes tumbling down into a bowl of ice cream watching netflix at 9 p.m sure
Starting point is 00:24:42 and the morning starts off with you thinking that you'll go for a run at 5am or something. I'm never under any illusions of any of that stuff. Yeah, I know. I was going to say, you completely let any of that go. Yeah. I reckon. I have a rough idea of what I'm going to do. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Well, just because you're so good at it. No, I'm just saying. You're so good at it all. No, I just set my expectations for alone. That's why. You just know you're going to be a real grumpy son of a bee. It's not me ticking off goals all day. It's no.
Starting point is 00:25:10 No. See, I am a goal rider. I know you are. The night before, you're like, I think I'm going to go to the gym at 5.30. I'm like, okay. Yeah, good luck. All right. You've never gone.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I know, never. So I guess the whole point, as I've gotten older, I've set my expectations for myself lower. I just think, not lower, it's realistic. You don't have to get up at 5.30. That's insane. You don't have to get up at 5.30 either, so why would you? It doesn't make any sense. I don't get why people are like, you should start your day early.
Starting point is 00:25:39 What the fuck are you talking about? Get up when you have to get up. You do that. You get up at like 9.30. Yeah, I've always got up at like the last second that you have to get up you do that you get up at like 9 yeah i've always got up at like the last second yeah i need to be when you had to be at work at like eight o'clock or whatever you would literally have 15 minutes you would like get up step into your pads eat be eating your cereal as i'm ready man i need a bit of time to re to enter into the world my night time is that so that's when i unwind so if i if i'm
Starting point is 00:26:06 getting up at 5 30 that means i'm going to bed at 9 and that's not happening no ever no because you come alive i do we went to a christmas in july over the weekend and it was like midnight 1 a.m by the time we like left and you were just the chattiest you've ever been i talk to you more and get more out of you at 1 a. That's true. Than any other time of day. It's very odd. Yeah. And you don't drink caffeine or anything. It's like your brain comes like vividly into life.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Oh, not at night. Oh, now you're coke-blooding heroes. Not at night. Not at night, I don't, to be fair. Oh, okay. Well, we're at 26 minutes. We don't have long to go. So, James, what else?
Starting point is 00:26:42 We've got some recommendations from people who have written in. People can write in at SuggestiblePod on Twitter or on Instagram. This is from Brad. He says, hey, guys, we are reading the wonderful Frankie Fish book, books by PJ Hallier, Peter Hallier, with my six-year-old daughter. Chapters of the perfect length for bedtime and a fun, entertaining read. So there you go. He's a local comedian.
Starting point is 00:27:04 He works with Dave Wannake from Booktune on the project. Exactly, yeah. All right. I have another recommendation called Last Breath. It's a doco. It's from Sam Francis W on Twitter. Thank you so much, Sam. Thanks, Sam.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And it's a doco about saturation divers off the Scottish coast. What's a saturation diver? So I'm pretty sure, because I haven't watched it yet, but it's, you know, I think you're diving without any equipment. So you dive like right down. So you're swimming, I get it. It's a docker about swimming. No, you dive down to like a certain amount of oxygen
Starting point is 00:27:35 saturation and the human body can cope at that level. I think that's what saturation diving is. Deep sea diving in which diver's bloodstream is saturated with helium or other suitable gas at the pressure of the surrounding water so the decompression time afterwards is independent of the duration of the dive. I had no idea what that means. They use tanks. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Sounds dangerous though. Sounds easy. Well, anyway, it's called The Last Breath. So thanks, Sam, for that reco. And just quickly as well, I don't know if anyone listened to the episode last week where I was trying to figure out what that movie was with Claudia Calvin, but Jack, so Free Will and Jack Kemper on Instagram, sent me a message and said it's called Dating the Enemy. Oh, it is called Dating the Enemy.
Starting point is 00:28:13 It's a film from 1996. That is. And he really loved it and it really helped him in his life. So thank you so much, Jack, for sending that in. We really appreciate it and we really appreciate you. Me? Well, not you specifically. Thanks, Jack.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I meant Jack. We've still got two more minutes. Oh, God. I know. I have a couple other recommendations. Sneaky ones. We can just end it. We don't have to.
Starting point is 00:28:31 No, no. I can't sneak it in. Because I've got to read reviews. Oh, you're so busy. Oh, you've got to read reviews. Well, I've got one. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Let me do a quick recommendation. No, you don't have to. Okay. One is for an album by Frank Sinatra called In the Wee Small Hours. Have you heard of it, James? I've heard of his terrible movies. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Well, yeah, you've watched a thousand of them for Caravan of Garbage. I've watched two. All right. Anyway. And they're both the worst movie for different reasons. All right. Okay. Well, this isn't a movie.
Starting point is 00:28:54 This is something else called Music, James. And I happen to really love jazz and blues and swing and those kind of things. And this album is one of my favorites. It's a concept album. So it was back in the 1950s when they didn't really have concept albums very often. And this was an album that he created after he broke up with Ava Gardner famously. And so the whole album is kind of like bittersweet and about loneliness and sadness, but it's just really all encompassing.
Starting point is 00:29:20 And if you're sitting at home on a rainy day and you feel like kind of listening to something moody and bluesy, it's just a really great album it's really cool one of my favorite songs on it is I Get Along Without You Very Well and Mood Indigo and Nina Simone who is another one of my favorite singers has done a cover of I Get Along Without You very well, which is also brilliant. So I recommend those two. Excellent. I mean, I know they're very famous singers, but that particular album is not quite as well known. I'm glad Frank Sinatra's dead.
Starting point is 00:29:56 This is from... You're a bloody not a very nice person. I wake up every day and I'm like, thank God, Frank Sinatra is gone. They will not be different because Frank Sinatra, he's dead. That's right. He was all. I know. Wasn't that the other one?
Starting point is 00:30:11 Wasn't that Bing? Oh, yeah, that was Bing. I don't know. I just hate him because I hate his movies that I've watched. Those movies are terrible. Okay, we're at 30 minutes. Okay, sorry. Thank you.
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Starting point is 00:30:31 It says, the cool chemistry between these co-hosts. Sorry. The cool chemistry these co-hosts have is so chill, plus the weird Australian humor vibe. Mm-mm-mm-mm. Chef's kiss. I love that. Also a great suggestion. Thanks, mate.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Mm-mm-mm. Chef's kiss. Chef's kiss. That's great suggestion. Thanks, mate. Chef's Kiss. Chef's Kiss. That's a thing we say on the weekly planet. I really enjoy it. Oh, yeah. Mason always loves to go, mmm. Mason says Chef's Kiss and I say, a Chef's Kiss you say. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah. Clearly I don't listen to you. We're back next week after we've seen the new Lion King, I guess. I'm going to hate it so much. I cannot muster the enthusiasm to go to the theater to see it. I know. Cause I hate CGI animals. I famously hate them.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I hate them so much. You hate talking CGI animals. Correct. I hate talking CGI animals. I didn't mind the tiger in Life of Pi, but it doesn't talk. It didn't talk. It wasn't like, hello, Brendan. Is that the kid's name on the boat?
Starting point is 00:31:20 I don't remember. Brendan, we're stuck on this boat together. It's remarkably similar to the old man in the sea actually no no it's not the young man and the tiger yeah anywho that's it from us follow us at suggestible pod on instagram and twitter uh you're at mr sunday movies and what's your what's your bloody and then on instagram i'm at claire 20 i should change it but probably won't i like to be there i don. I'm on Twitter very often. And also I have another podcast called Just Make the Thing,
Starting point is 00:31:48 if you want to check that out. You want me to do Sunday movies on YouTube and all the platforms and on the weekly planet. That's right. I've got my con episode this weekend. You'll be fine. You just have also a live show as well. How did you do that?
Starting point is 00:32:02 Why? Why did you do that to yourself? I checked with you. I said, what dates could we do? Because I'm stupid, Claire. Is that what, why? Why did you do that to yourself? I checked with you. I said, what dates could we do? Because I'm stupid, Claire. Is that what you want? Is that what you want to hear? Every goddamn minute of the day.
Starting point is 00:32:12 All right. Okay. Oh, yeah, thanks for calling for editing this episode. Good man. Okay, goodbye. Bye, you old boot. You're a fucking old boot. Don't swear.
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