supermegashow - EP 115 - Dan's Big Secret (ft. Dan Avidan)

Episode Date: November 9, 2018

We finally get our buddy Dan on the podcast and talk about life, music and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Almost there. Yeah, adjust that. Adjust that blanket. There we go. All right. A little, little more. A little more. It's going.

Need some help back there. Just gonna, just have this in. Just have Dan adjusting. I got it. I got it. Oh my God, here we are. You guys, you guys have waited so long for this. Yeah.

Because you spam us in the comments. Well, we've also said multiple times, yeah, it's bad. It's going to be next episode. And then plans eventually fall through, unfortunately. Like 70 episodes later. Of course. But we finally have the Dan. Daniel Radcliffe.

Yep. Here I am. What if? What if it was just Daniel Radcliffe people would be like I don't know whether they'd be disappointed I'm both

everyone's just furious at us I'm excited appointed but we finally have you we're trying to fulfill a lot of promises we got our movie review

series released after teasing it for two and a half years we got we got Dan on the podcast we got merch coming spoiler alert this weekend

got our merch site dropping. I did it. I pulled it through. I didn't know if I was going to be able to, but I did. And just in case, for those who don't know who our wonderful friend Dan is, would you like to introduce yourself in any way? Sure. It can be in song.

It can be in rap. You do love to rap. I do. You rap constantly. My name is Dan dan avidon i am known as danny sex bang on the internet it's good flow yeah thanks thanks dog uh i am one half of game grumps with aaron hansen and um i'm the lead singer of a band called Ninja Sex Party and one called Starbomb. I enjoy wine, women, song. Red wine or white wine? You know what? I haven't had alcohol in years, but-

Red women or white women? Well, obviously red women and white wine. Beautiful. Red women, white wine. That's the name of my solo album. I prefer red wine. I'm a red wine man. I'm a white, I'm a white wine. That's the name of my solo album. I prefer red wine. I'm a red wine man myself. I'm a white wine man. Don't tell my dad. So Dan, you recently played on the O'Reilly Factor, right? What? You were on Bill Marshall. That's where I saw you, on the TV.

Dan recently, with his band Ninja Sex Party, with his good buddy Brian, and along with a backup band called Twerp. Very talented young men. They played on Conan O'Brien so you can catch their performance on the Conan O'Brien show on YouTube. That was exciting and scary. Oh, I bet. I would have been shitting my pants.

Is it one of those feelings where it's like once you're doing it, it's like, okay, I'm in it. I can't go back. So the nerves kind of are, they're still there, but they're kind of forced to the back. Yeah. You have to focus on the performance. The first 20 seconds were weird.

And then it was just like performing at any other time. But yeah, it's funny because I was just listening to the podcasty episode that I did with Finn where I talked about exactly this. So I apologize for repeating myself. But the thing that caught me off guard was that for years, even though we've been playing to crowds that are beyond what I could have imagined as a kid. 5,000 and shit. That was a lot.

It's crazy. It's a large room of people, but even in a situation like that, you can see who you're performing to. Like, you can see the totality of everyone that you're singing for, whereas on Conan, when that jib camera flies by, you're like, who the fuck is on the other end of that?

And that's what was off-putting at first but um you know it just like anything you just have to get through it there's no substitute for the experience of doing it and the next time we probably won't be half as nervous you know yeah well there's one substitute which ryan and i are big fans of and that's crack drugs yeah i hadn't thought of that. A lot of people do drugs when they go on shows like that. They use something called beta blockers. Have you ever heard of those?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't that like in the prostate commercials? Wait, what? The prostate pills for men over 50 or 60 that need more enhancement of... What is this thing called again? I don't know beta beta poppers blockers not poppers yeah beta blockers yeah i don't know exactly what they are what they do but i loves taking it beta poppers you sniff them in the beta mills i've i've been

told that uh that a lot of uh performers use them to get past their anxiety of performing. Oh, yeah. I know that there's actually drugs prescribed for stage fright. Right. But I always wonder, like, if I took one of those, because I get nervous every time before I go on stage, but usually, like, as soon as I'm out in front of the crowd, it goes away. Right. Because I guess your brain kicks into this, like, adrenaline mode where you're like, okay, this is it.

You got it. Just do it. Where like the lead up to it where you're backstage waiting, that's when I feel the most nervous. And that moment where I'm first walking on, it's like, oh, God. Oh, God. And then when I'm out on stage, it's like, cool. Yeah. Well, we haven't been nervous on stage in a long time.

I can't wait until I get to that point. Yeah. And you just keep doing it until it goes away. The fun part is that eventually you get to the point where the crowd loves you before you go out on stage. We're working on that. Yeah, there's less of a feeling of like, I have to win these folks over,

which is tough when you're just starting out. And that's another thing that was weird about the Conan show because it had been years since we'd gone for an audience that's not your right it was years since we had to prove ourselves to an audience that we were performing for um oh yeah that's so true because when we do our super mega shows which actually we did one last night whenever this comes out like the people coming are mostly super mega fans so it's like you already feel that support when you walk out on stage right still nervous to shit though Oh, I still get nervous because it's like I want to make everyone happy and I want I want everyone to enjoy it And I'm like if I'm not good, they're not gonna enjoy it and they paid for it. So so we just gotta get more drunk

That's the whole thing. Let's just drink shots of that's funnel grain alcohol before the next drunk drawing live show That's a good idea and we could vomit into the crowd, so it's one of those 3D SeaWorld things. Front row can get the little splash zone. We should call the front row the splash zone in case one of us throws up. It may not happen, but also

it may happen. Ryan, you know how good you are at simulating like you're about to throw up? You should do it into the crowd. I should and then actually throw up because I can't contain myself because I'm actually drunk. And then my body is actively trying to get rid of what I put inside of it. Next thing you know, front row gets a little splash zone. Okay, yeah, yeah.

I would die laughing if you threw up. My mental health would be very, would be skyrocketing after that. From vomiting on fans? Yes. Hey, it happens, man. Dan's done it at least half the shows. I don't consider it a show until I vomited on half the crowd. Wasn't there some like crazy rocker that would like puke into the crowd?

I feel like that's a very metal thing to do. It's got to be. Like if Ozzy can bite the head off a bat, you know, I'm sure some... Oh yeah, he did that. Oh yeah, yeah. And like the lead singer of this band Deer Hunter, he got blown, or he sucked a dude's dick on stage. Huh, okay. I mean, there's many things. You can kill an animal,

he can suck a dude's dick, or he can just vomit into the crowd. Robert De Niro was jerked off for a movie. Really? Was he actually jerked off? You can look up the footage if you want. I'd prefer not to. The girl just giving two dudes a handjob and he's one of them. He's a young actor, up and coming. They couldn't simulate that?

She actually had to like jerk him off? She was touching their penis. Their shared penis. Their one penis. Was it a pornographic film? Was he in porn before his big acting? I don't know. That Sylvester Stallone was.

Yes, he was. He was a porn star. He had the look too. So was Jackie Chan. What? Really? Oh, that's right. He was, yeah. Jackieone was. Yes, he was. He was a porn star. He had the look, too. So was Jackie Chan. What? Really? Oh, that's right. He was, yeah.

Jackie Chan was a, before he was in his big breakthrough roles, he did porn. But I have to, like, it's not like they were a porn star and then became a movie star. I feel like they're just picking up different work. Like, it's like, oh, they were probably, like, doing side roles. I pick up that work when it's slow at the game. Then it's just kind of like, I'm not known. I need money. Dude, I mean, like, if you're starving, like, you gotta eat i i don't gotta fuck i don't i don't blame anyone who who does shit

like that to i mean because it's rough because that stuff follows you forever like sylvester stallone's at his 70s now you know and he's still got to hear about the porno film he shot when he was like 25 or whatever but even for not famous people like putting your body out there in general i mean that's very like super like very intimate and you're like opening yourself up to millions of people potentially because it's just i'm not judging this isn't me judging it's just like that's a big for some people it's not even a big step they're that comfortable with their body i mean they're they've accepted like this is what i'm doing. Yeah, Debbie Harry from the lead singer Blondie, she says now that she regrets not doing porn or like not appearing naked somewhere just because she was like, man my body was fucking

awesome back then, like I should have chronicled that. You seen Betty White? Betty White looked great. I know, she still does. She still looks great. I would still take her to the sack. She's 96. Yeah. Betty White looked great. I know. She still does. She still looks great. I would still take her to the sack.

Yeah. It's also just why I feel so bad for people to get their nudes leaked because it's such a personal thing that then the world has. Yeah. And it's got to be the worst feeling. I'm sure it is. But at the same time, the world moves so fast now. And it's like once they're out there, they're out there. So you just got to move on.

Yeah. the world moves so fast now. Yeah, and it's like, once they're out there, they're out there, so you just gotta move on. Yeah. I think it's embarrassing because it's the fact

that it was meant for someone else. Yeah, right, yeah, right. But at the end of the day, it's like, we all have, everyone's naked at some point. It's true. You have a penis,

you have a vagina, whatever you have, it's all, you have it. The jizz on the face ones are a little rough. Oh, that's embarrassing. Oh, yeah. That's gonna stick.

Some celebrities have been caught up in that mess. Yeah, that's what I'm saying but but but who among us has not had jizz on their face today if not by accident it was just dripping from the ceiling when i went in the bathroom this morning that was me sorry that was i'm saying sorry for the stream i had to i'm apologizing because like i know it's just a little bit I wasn't there to experience it and I'm sorry Ryan the thing is it's like there is tension in this room when I masturbate at work I always text you yeah and I say you better hurry I just live I live a bit further away it It's harder than that. There are like three fireable offenses in that one sentence.

Actually, Aaron said he was going to give me a raise if I masturbated at work more in his office. That does sound like something he'd say. What if he found out, though, all these years of all these jokes, they were all real. Like, I actually masturbated in Aaron's office in front of him. There was jizz on the ceiling today. I don't know. I'd be shocked and also not shocked yeah same yeah yeah I'd be fine with it whatever whatever whatever works for you man honestly jerking it in the jerking in front of my boss yeah whatever works for you I love it it's just it's just so accepting it's like hey

hey man hey dude live your truth I've heard of cra shit. Is this what you guys wanted to talk about? That's why we're sitting interrogation style right now. Because we were wondering, since Aaron allows Matt to jerk off in front of him, Ryan's a little jealous. Where are you going with this? Aaron doesn't want him to do it in front of him. I'm doing hand motions.

Read the room, man. I don't have an office. I don't have an office. You have a house. You do. You have a car. Well, then? Read the room, man. Read the room. I don't have an office. I don't have an office. You have a house. Well, that's... You have a car. Well, then we're no longer at work. Then it's just dudes jerking off.

It's just your normal Friday night. If there's no power angle to it, then, like, what's the point? Do it, like, Dirk Diggler style, where you're just, like, sitting in the car, like... In the passenger seat. Yeah.

Wow. This has been enlightening. Yeah, you like being on our podcast no yeah thanks for having me on i gotta go do we have any ad reads for this one we do we'll do them later we don't have them yet so we'll have to record them later in the week what ad reads you guys get sponsored for this yeah somehow right Somehow, right? That's amazing. Your words are being sponsored right now. That's hilarious. I'd love to know who's paying money. We don't know yet. It's PUBG, the video game.

Really? Yeah. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Are we actually doing PUBG? Yeah. No way. You'll hear it later in the podcast, guys.

I'll prove Ryan wrong. No way. Yeah, it's PUBG. No, it's not. Yes, it is. I'm not shitting you. Oh, man. PUBG, you guys get an excellent ad read later

I'm serious. You guys want you guys are gonna want to stick around for this You just said you don't know who it is. No, I do PUBG. I can pull up the I can pull up the chart Yeah, yeah, I didn't I didn't cuz I forgot and then I remember Ryan you're gonna look like such an idiot Because on Thursday we're gonna have to come in here to record and I'm gonna have to pass you the piece of paper The script for the ad read and it's gonna say PUBG. It's gonna say Fortnite. I'd love to do an ad read for it. Actually, I cannot say that on this one.

Actually, PUBG, yeah. Okay, you actually... Go look at the email! I'm trying to find it. Pull up that email. Most recent email today. This is amazing to watch. Look at the update.

I feel very fortunate to be the one person that can see this. Fuck, where is that? Pull it up. You're gonna look at the update. I feel very weekly update to be the one weekly update Yeah, fuck. Where is that? Oh, you're gonna look like such a jackass Ryan Okay, Ryan if you if I was right you have to go lay down on train tracks. No, okay. Well, I'll do it then Okay, as long as you're wrong, I'm gonna do it. I'm looking I should be looking in my personal email, right? Look what were you looking for? Is it in this is it in the super mega? Email yes, it's in all of them Feel like I'm being trolled right now. He thinks I'm trolling him. I'm not I feel like I'm having a read for pub G I'm really trying to figure this out a sponsor does like the Eric Andre show

Welcome, Dan. Yeah, I'm excited. We slipped you acid in your soins. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised scroll down Fucking hell. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Scroll down. Fucking hell, yeah. Wow. Congratulations, PUBG. Thank you, PUBG. Can you guys pay us extra since we're talking about you so much? Is that cool?

Gamers? PUBG is short for pubic G-spot. Actually, yes. That's actually part of the ad read we have to do. Men have a G-spot. Do they really? Up their anus. Stop.

Is that right? It's called a prostate. That counts as a G-spot. Do they really? Up their anus. Stop. Is that right? It's called the prostate. The prostate, yeah. That counts as the G-spot? That is allegedly the... My family calls it tickling the old peanut. Son, welcome home for Christmas. Gather around the fire.

We're going to tickle your grandpa's penis. Aaron, on multiple occasions, and I have had the exact same conversation where he'll make some reference to sticking a finger in his butt while he masturbates. Is that public? Oh, yeah. It's been on many Game Grumps episodes. All right. And I'm like, oh, man, do you really do that? And he's like, oh, my God, it's the best, right?

You do it, too. And I'm like, no, actually. I have a friend who who I've never done it. He's like cool me neither. Oh Yeah, all I'm funny and stuff all I'm saying is Don't knock it till you try it. Yeah. Yeah, it's all I'm saying. I'm just I'm busy man. I don't have time If you're scared. I'm not scared. That's what a scared man would say. Yeah, that is what a scared man would say.

That's true. I am not scared, though. Here, warm up, get a bag of baby carrots. I'm scared. See how many you can get up there. I'm scared of sharks. I'm scared of just the ocean in general. The ocean is terrifying. I would not put a shark up my anus. ryan you have you have thalassophobia is that the fear of just deep

being in the deep i just know it's a subreddit i go on where it's pictures of the deep sea and it's very scary i the pictures that make me like my skin crawl is like overhead shots and then you can see like the huge silhouette of a whale oh yeah yeah oh well that's a big beast it's just too much like unknown like how would you feel if you were a fish and you like swam up into new york you know like what's oh i don't understand the rules here like it just anything could kill me at any time you see that exact reaction when like a coyote wanders into like a town like burbank or glendale yeah like it'll just be like like oh no. Yeah. The shoulders hunch up. This is not.

Yeah. This isn't right. What are these things? Except they don't have 800 cubic pounds of pressure. That is true. Dude, like I, Ross thinks it's scarier to be able to see the bottom and everything. And I'm like, how is that scary? No, it's not.

It's scary when you can't see what's underneath. Yeah. Yeah. The whole point of fear is the unknown. Right. And you can't see, like if I can see a shark over there, I'm like, oh, but if I'm in the water and I'm like, there's a shark and I don't see like if I can see a shark over there I'm like oh but if I'm in the water and I'm like there's a shark yeah the only way of seeing the bottom is gonna be scary is if there's a finger coming up it just bring some full

circle yeah yeah we do threes in comedy and into the podcast we got to bring it up again absolutely sure my school always be would always say that always be like he always be like that, man. He always be saying. Let's transition to an ad read. Okay. No, I'm just kidding. We'll do it later.

No, we'll do it now. No, it's too soon. Viewers are going to click off. No, we'll get it now. Okay. Well, we've got to promise something really good for afterwards. Dan. I'll still be here.

No, something big and exclusive for our podcast. So people will stick around. Ah, shit, man. A secret that you'll tell us. A big secret? What secret do you want to know? You'll find out after this ad reads. Oh, my God.

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Fuck. Dan? Yes. Secret, dude. No, see, this is, again, not fair. You told us you had a big secret. I did not say anything of the kind. You literally said, I have something huge I want to tell you.

The title of the episode is Dan's Big Secret. It's so fucked. Such clickbait-y bullshit. It's fucked that you would come on our podcast and say that you're going to say your big secret and then hide it from us. I don't know. I can't imagine what kind of... He swindled his way onto this podcast. He said he was going to say his big secret.

Now he's not. This is the most jackknife-y bullshit. What type of see thumbnail It's gonna be like a big question mark and like us going There's almost nothing I haven't said about my life On on game grumps. It's true like I can't honestly think of anything well, I mean we've been to Like Q&A is where someone will just straight- be like, when did you lose your virginity?

Do you answer honestly? Yeah. Oh. Because I was like, fuck it. Who cares? Should we share our numbers? Should we all go around and share our numbers? Yeah, let's do it.

Okay. Who's going to win? Do you want to say them all at the same time? Yes. Okay. Three, one. Oh, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Is it three, two, one? Say it. Yes. Three, two, one. Say it. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Three, 2, 1. Oh, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is it 3, 2, 1, say it? Yes. 3, 2, 1, say it. Okay, yeah, yeah. 3, 2, 1. 19. Damn. You Casanovas.

Yeah. Wait, who said 18? Who said 19? I'm 19. This boy right here. 19 over here, 18 over there. Wow. I was in college. Yeah, that's when most people did.

My mom, it was parents weekend. Hey, what can I say? I worked at Food Lion. It's a really shitty grocery store in South Carolina Fantastic I was 23 and my friend Eva was like Jesus Christ. Let me help you out man names and everything Yeah, well, I mean she and I are still buds. Okay. It's it's very cool She she still makes fun of it. So it's like I'll do you a solid. Yeah more or less I mean doing a solid with his solid. Give me a high five.

Hey, up top. Yeah. We still love each other. She'll occasionally will be hanging out and she'll be like, what's this in my wallet? Oh, it's your V card. You know, she'll just like, she'll poke fun at me. Because I mean, that is a tie that binds. Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your

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Just continue. Your watch interrupted. I'm sorry, my wife. It's 6 p.m. I'm just assuming this is the story that's leading up to the big secret. No, the big secret's at the end. Yeah, this is the big secret story that's leading up to the big secret No the big secret's at the end Yeah this is the big secret story No the big secret's at the end guys you gotta listen to the end

You gotta listen to the very end of the podcast This is gonna be like a Cracker Jacks prize Where like you eat your whole way through the bag and you get to it And it's like a fucking sticker of a sailor and his dog It's like a paper stamp That you can't even put on the mail I'm like what the fuck do I do with this I still have mine

He has a whole box just for his cracker jacks oh i thought you meant your v card no yeah no that was that ship is sailed did you have a was it a good experience well the person uh it was uh it was uh no i don't fair enough i don't think it wasn't i just i don't think it was a i don't think a lot of people have a good experience losing their virginity. Maybe not. I'm, in fact, I'm sure. It's usually pretty awkward or like, oh. Now I feel pretty good.

Now I'm not so self conscious. Yeah. Well, cause like the first time is only a big deal before the first time, at least for me. Like once you get into like the fourth or fifth time, you're like, oh, who gives a shit about the first? You know, it's, it's just, it, who gives a shit about the first, you know, it's,

it's just, it builds up to be a big thing in your head. Cause it's such like a, a big like societal, like, well, like it's gotta be perfect. Like when are you going to sleep with someone?

It's also the big, it's the big moment you'll always remember. Also growing up somewhere where like the, you know, Western values are very kind of like, yeah, like put in place there. It's just like,

this is how, this is how, this is how things go. You know, people in, you know, just the language people would use in school, everything seemed like, you know, you had to act a certain way. You had to be a certain way. And so one of the things that came along with that, at least for my church was just kind of like, you know, your first time's very important. It is very, very important. We were big Christian boys. Yeah. So are our brother.

So I was always like, the person I'm going to have, like when I was younger, I always thought it was like. Didn't mean to laugh at that. I'm sorry. The people who end up having sex are meant for each other. That's how it was viewed in my head. Yeah. And then when it happened the first time, I'm like,

oh, this is just an act. This is just something people do. And it's a very intimate act. It's a very intimate act depending on the situation, of course. Yeah. And I'm not like, I don't judge anyone's religion or anyone who wants to be religious or not. Uh, but I personally, I remember feeling very, uh, is betrayed too strong a word, feeling very lied to after, after Hebrew school, you know, and just like, and, and growing up and realizing that that was not an accurate portrayal of how I see the world at all, you know? And, uh, and again, if, if anyone else wants to believe that it's their

right and it's no less valid because it doesn't work for me but it never worked for me remotely oh I mean that was the thing with me was like if you want to you know I grew up strongly Christian and then I ended up eventually kind of falling out of it and it was simply just because like for me personally it just didn't really feel right right and it's like I have no judgment of people that want to uh live that lifestyle or or believe that set of beliefs yeah i never liked the fear that that's yeah the guilt like the guilt yeah the believe this or you know you're burning for eternity like that that struck me as a

a big old a big old mountain of bullshit it's well i think like when you're young and like you're the church is preaching all these things to you like when i was younger and i was like intimate with someone in my head i'm like oh i have i'm intimate i have to get ready for the big long haul oh here we go i have i gotta buckle down and get a job yeah i have friends that were raised very, very religious and still, like, say that to this day, when they're having sex with someone and they come, like, they feel. Wait, they what? When they have an orgasm, they feel, like, a wash of, like, shame and guilt. And it's just, like, programmed. Yeah, it's, like, deep and still.

It's terrible. That's so uncool. And to me me it just it it smacks of the desire to control you know definitely like you the the desire like to me if if you really believe in what you're saying you shouldn't need to remove all the natural pleasures out of someone else's life you shouldn't need to take away music you shouldn't need to take away sex you shouldn't need to take away all the things you don't need to make your your particular religion a person's only avenue to happiness yeah yeah and i think a lot of people

are very unhappy that that are so devout and i might just i might be wrong but i feel like there are probably a lot of people that are very unhappy and they don't realize why right that are so devout. I might be wrong, but I feel like there are probably a lot of people that are very unhappy and they don't realize why. Right. That are like, maybe like, imagine like a 60-year-old person that just follows that so strictly their whole life. They might be very unhappy just because they, and they don't even know why, but it's because they're so instilled in the belief

that they got to follow this. That's the only way to happiness. Yeah. But then again, it's like, because I remember in church and youth group, there would always be adults that would speak and be like, my whole life I made mistakes. I got this girl pregnant when I was younger. Right. Um, I sold drugs and like, they live this life without a mistake. That's just the hustle.

They, they, they live this life devoid of God or Jesus or having that in them. Now, then at a later stage, they're like, Oh, this, this is this, this makes sense to me. This is something I want to follow. I feel like it just works just works it's just i think it's just your personal path whatever leads you to whatever you end up believing because i because i guess because everyone has such a different experience in life some people start there and then realize that's not the path they want to take and some people probably want some sort of redemption for one reason or another and then they find it in that. If they can find it in that, that's great. I'm very envious of people who have strong faith because for the people that genuinely have it and enjoy it,

that seems really nice. And I had that at one point when I was a kid, and I loved it. And it's like I am envious of people that can find that comfort. Well, comfort is the right word because it's the truth of life, and it's a shocking thing when you realize it, or at least it was for me. Just the idea that, oh, no one actually knows what's going on. Like no one knows what this life is. No one knows where we were before.

This is a kid. You're just following adults. Yeah. Because you're like adults must know because they know everything. But then you start to grow up and you're like, oh, adults are just large kids. they know everything but then you start to grow up and you're like oh adults are just large kids and and then you have to make a choice and you have to decide what works for you um as far as uh making sense of the universe around you and you have people uh you have people like the pope who seems like a very intelligent man, very good-hearted person.

And he just straight-up believes everything the Bible says legitimately at its word. And you have someone like Stephen Hawking, who is about as intelligent as a person has ever been. And he's like, religion is a bunch of fairy tales for people who are afraid of the dark. Those are his words. been and he's like religion is a bunch of fairy tales for people who are afraid of the dark yeah those are his words so it's very smart people will look at the same thing and see different things and ultimately you have to make the decision for yourself and uh and i guess because judaism doesn't have the threat to it that some other religions do. There's no threat of hell.

There's no threat. Even in Christianity, the Jews are saved and they go to heaven. Is that right? I think. Yeah, they're God's chosen people. In the eyes of some, in the eyes of certain. Wait, if they're God's chosen people and I was worried about hell, why can't I just switch to Judaism, not worry about hell, and then know I'm going to heaven regardless?

I mean, go for it. I just found the loophole, guys. The jupehole. Convert today. But yeah. This is going to sound like a very weird question. No, go ahead. I'm just interested.

Because I only went to a synagogue once when I was going through confirmation in Christianity, which is like what you do at like 17 or when you're becoming an adult. Sure. 13. Churches do it differently. But yeah, it's like a or when you're becoming an adult. Sure. 13. Churches do it differently. But yeah, it's like, it's like a bar mitzvah, but for Christianity. Yeah. And so I went to a synagogue and I saw everything. So like someone can just walk into a Christian church.

Can someone just walk in and be a part of the congregation of a synagogue? I don't know. Or do you have to be like by blood Jewish to be a part of that? You don't have to be by blood Jewish to be of the Jewish faith. Okay. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you don't. Okay, so the faith is very open to just whoever wants to just come into the congregation? Yeah, I think so.

Like, I'm not an authority on this, but I think part of the, I think, I'm not stating any of this as fact, but I'm pretty sure Judaism doesn't recruit the same way some religions do. Come to church. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're welcome to come. And if someone wants to convert to Judaismaism they're like hooray good you know but i i don't think that it's an active thing i certainly don't think people get turned away yeah um but there are different levels of judaism there's there's reform which is uh the casual yeah yeah the most casual and then there's conservative which is sort of in the

middle and then there's orth, and those guys are hardcore. Yeah, they're like Baptists? They're the ones with the beards and the hats and everything? Oh. Yeah, like Hasidic Jews are Orthodox. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a place in LA where like...

Yeah. There's a mall? What area is it? Fairfax. Fairfax? Okay. Fairfax is like a very Jewish district of LA. For the most part, Orthodox Jews, I don't believe, think very highly of more casual Jews.

I think there's a divide there. It's just kind of like, oh, you're just doing this to get to the good place. It's kind of like Catholicism with more laid back, like, Episcopal or Anglican. Yeah. By the way, you were going to say agnnostic agnostic is absolutely how I would describe myself Oh me too. I wouldn't call myself an atheist. No, no, I feel like that takes a lot of um Cuz I honestly the way I see is like I can't say that there's no God. It's like I don't Profoundly deny that God it could exist because I think I think it's possible. Yeah, God could exist

I just don't know and I never will know so i'm just kind of like everything's so fucking crazy and intricate and complicated it's like i'm i just don't know right and i don't know if i care because i'm not going to get an answer yeah so it's like i i personally worry about it i've always had trouble with anyone any person who was born like we were you know just came out the pussy and now is alive. Wait, now we're coming into pussy. Hey-o! No, I've never, if other people are having the same experience as me, like, I've had trouble with anyone who, like, looks around and goes,

I know the unknowable for a fact. I know what happens when you die. But how can you know? It's all just faith. That's why it's called faith. Right. Because you are taking a leap of faith to put your beliefs in something that you have no proof of. So other than your own personal faith that this other power exists or that the afterlife exists right and i but saying i'm an atheist would be another way of saying that i know the unknowable yeah totally it's kind of

just the opposite end of the spectrum it's like i know there's no god right which i also like feel like you know just as much as you just don't judge anyone on that spectrum it's like if you choose not to believe that there's a god like wholeheartedly be like no there's no god there's nothing you can do to convince me i don't think that that person is any more wrong in thinking that than someone who like, it's just the same belief, almost just opposite, you know? It is.

It's the exact, well, yeah, it's just like, uh, whose definition, what is it? Ricky Gervais definition or whatever was like, you just believe in one less God than I do type of thing. That's true. Cause there are, I think 250 religions out there, major religions. There's got to be a lot more than that.

Oh, yeah. This is the beginning of time. It's crazy how religion... Sorry, I'll let you finish your point first. Oh, no. I was just going to say, whatever religion you believe in, it means you don't believe in at least 249 religions. Well, honestly, that was one of the biggest things and then i'll go on to what i was also going to say one of the biggest things that um got me questioning things when i

was around high school was i was like oh wait there's more muslims than christians so that's the biggest religion and they all think the exact same way i do because i think that my religion is the true one but they all think theirs is the true one but how do we know that I was like what if I'm the wrong one what if theirs is actually the correct religion and then like I'm the wrong one and I go to hell or something and that freaked me out when I was like wait I mean there's like there's Hinduism and then Buddhism and Judaism and I was like oh god who's right yeah I mean I was like just confused yeah and maybe no one like what if you die and just wake up in like egyptian hell and you're like oh we should have stuck with this one that's like that south park episode where everyone's in hell they're like who is right

and the guy's like it was actually the mormons the mormons were correct it's yeah it's it's fucking crazy and and the more i thought about it the more I became convinced that like, I'm just going to chill out about this. Because if there is a God and because every religion that believes in a monotheistic God more or less believes in the benevolence of that God, like a kind, loving God. There's not too many religions where God's a fucking douche and trying to ruin everybody's life that he created. Let me join that one. Yeah, so I would think, I would assume that if there is a benevolent, loving God,

he's going to be pretty understanding. Or she, or they, you know? Well, it's the differences in between the whether you're reading what it depends on what book you're reading what testament you're reading it it fluctuates yeah so that's the that's the confusing part for a lot of people it's the what fuck whose quote was it the i i believe i do believe in god i just spell it N-A-T-U-R-E, you know? Yeah. God is the name that we give to the laws of nature. It's a household name.

Yeah. We give to the wondrous things that at the time we just couldn't explain how this all happens. But I feel like now we're very, we've gotten to the point. And there's that classic Sunny in Philadelphia episode which kind of points out the flawed thinking in this but right now you think science is at a great point we we know what we need to know we have very we have there's very there's not that much deliberation between what's going on right now on earth how it came about um the science is at such a high point we're like this is this is true but then you look at uh one of the arguments that they make it that i think mac makes where it's like this scientist was proven a dumb bitch

and like shit like that he slaps like a dumb bitch sticker on that's awesome famous scientist he's like yet again he was proven wrong because like they were right about one thing but other things they were looking into in science of course universe were wrong and so it's like honestly who knows what's going to be rewritten as something else because oh yeah you can't know what you don't know yeah well it's the very nature of it if i say we take a moment from our sponsor oxycontin and then we will get back with dan's big secret oh wait no we already did the ad read didn't we we did yeah yeah I don't have a big secret. Like, I just don't.

He's saving it for the end of the podcast. Sorry, guys, I spaced that we already did the ad read. It's because we didn't actually do it. I forgot. Damn. Why don't you unseal those little, those thin little lips of yours? Start spilling the beans. Unbelievable, man.

Can you at least give me a topic that you'd like me to tell a secret on? Because I can't even think of anything. You have no secrets to share with us. After years of friendship, I was there for you the night of the thing happened. The night the thing happened. It's like the worst title for a book. I like how we both said the thing. Ryan was like, the thing happened. It's like the worst title for a book. I like how we both said the thing. Ryan was like the thing.

Well, the only things I wouldn't talk about that I could have secrets on would be my health and my relationship status. You know, like those are the only things I don't talk about on Grumps because I need to have certain aspects of my life. Of course. Like to myself. I think of the same way in terms of, like, my relationships with people, and even sometimes even, like, just friendships. I'm like, I just want to enjoy the moment right now. Right.

Even for me, it's, like, even, like, certain songs I enjoy listening to or, like, hobbies I have. It's, like, some things I just want for myself. Yeah. And the people very close to me, because it's, like, all three of us are, like, internet personalities who on a daily basis uh kind of spill this alphabet soup of our lives

for hundreds of thousands to millions of people to consume and it's like i love doing that i love sharing aspects of my life and i love connecting with all these people i've never met that feel like they know me i think that's really cool. It's just like There's of course some things where it's like it's nice to share this and something so I'm like I want this for me Yeah, because I there's the me that no one on the internet knows Yeah Like I like being able to have both sides of that and once you share a certain aspect of your life You can't unshare it, you know I had a girlfriend maybe three years ago that uh you know i recently

just now started mentioning like oh yeah we went through a tough breakup and it was very sad at the time um and because it's my life has moved past that you you know, it's not a thing anymore, but I can only imagine if I had mentioned it at that time, it would have been the worst thing possible. Cause even though so many people would have had the best of intentions to be like, dude, I'm sorry. I know what you're going through. Let me help you by sharing my story and everything like that, all it would serve to do is bring this painful breakup into my mind. Even more. And more people are talking about it. Yeah.

Well, like, that's the thing. Just, like, bringing people into that level. Yeah, that's what it is. It's having something personal and then bringing people you don't know into it. You know? Yeah, because, like, three years ago when Daniel passed away, something personal than bringing people you don't know into it you know yeah because like three years ago when daniel passed away like i i was very public about grieving and like just i was

because that's what i was i was i was vlogging i was doing challenges on youtube i was just in that mode and so like i would post pictures i would i would just get my thoughts out and i would i was essentially what i look back on now. I'm like, I'm fucking grieving. And I wish I could go back and be like, stop. Just delete. Just throw your phone somewhere else. Because now if something is going to happen in the future, and of course a bunch of sad stuff will continue to happen because that's just how life works.

Ups and downs. It's just I think grieving is one of the things where i'm like yeah i need to keep that to myself next time same i like if i'm grieving i don't want to because grieving is such a personal thing you know it's like you don't want to open that up to um the the the whole world i guess because like if i went through a breakup or someone close to me died maybe i would mention it like oh so i lost someone recently and then that's that but like to open it up to such a public um just like here's my heart i'm grieving right feast well yeah and i i understand too where you're coming from you always have to be gentle with yourself when looking back on stuff like that because that was a situation that came out of nowhere

yeah and was so far beyond anything you'd experienced before. You know, there's no blueprint with how to deal with that shit. Yeah, and also, I mean, isn't that also life though? Like you look back at some choice you made and you're like, I wish I hadn't done that. But then that's how you learned what you want to do and should do in the future. That's why I don't regret. There have been relationships that I've been in that ended horribly.

And I don't regret them because it taught me, I'm looking out for those red flags next time. Now I know. I've had relationships that just left me broken. But then afterwards, once I've kind of healed from it, I look back and I'm like, I don't regret that that experience happened even though I was miserable. I look back at it and it's more like, I think I grew from that.

I learned some things about myself. And more importantly, now I know more of what I want in finding a better match in the future. Yeah, yeah. And I think a big part of it is there's also no blueprint as far far as how to live in the public eye it's called the constitution that's right that's right matt um and and i remember early on before i joined game grumps but when ninja sex party was a thing um so i was on the internet and stuff. Um, I dated a girl for a little while and I hurt her feelings accidentally. Um, she definitely, from my point of view, I guess it's okay to say this because I'm not talking about who it is.

From my point of view, she wildly overreacted to something innocuous, you know, just called her fat. I don't put ideas in people's heads that's not what happened i don't even know what happened but like i i made a comment that made her very upset and i could have never dreamed it would have made her upset but instead and she responded in a way that was like way over the top and really nasty. And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to walk away from this. Like in, if I, if it had happened to me now, I would have called her and just been like, Hey, let's talk this out. I think you misunderstood what I was saying or whatever. Um, or you were, or you'd gone through another bad experience and you were projecting that experience onto me or something. Who knows? Um, but I know that if I,

what am I trying to say? What I did do was try to text her back cause this was all happening via text and yeah. And she was just like spitting poison at me and i was just like fuck it i'm walking away and um and as a result the that friendship slash romance or whatever you'd want to call it it was never an official relationship um that was just destroyed and is gone for good now. Um, and I remember people telling me, uh, online, uh, you know, you're so great. You make me so happy. You're such a wonderful person. And I didn't feel like a wonderful person. Like I felt like a fraud cause I was like, how could I, my thought process at the time

was how could I be a wonderful person if I hurt this person's feelings, you know? the time was how could i be a wonderful person if i hurt this person's feelings you know and i i think that's a little bit like what you're talking about um with uh the grieving situation with daniel because it's it was such a huge thing in your life that there's that feeling of if i don't talk about this and i'm actively hiding the most important thing going on from these people who are watching me and listening to me every day am i living a lie you know and am i projecting something that's not true or at least that's how i felt at certain moments yeah um but it's not fair to yourself to think like that, you know? Well, I think like you just can't, at that point, it's like you, it's hard to compete with your facade, right?

Right. Because that's all your positives, like the funnies. Yeah, yeah. And the sometimes deep moments where you open up and stuff like that too. But when something happens and you can't project that, you can do the facade you can't be like oh hey what's up it's just like my you kind of go into this overload where it's like i don't know how to deal with this right and i feel like my situation i should have stepped back a bit more sure i feel like i shouldn't have been as involved in the realm of social media where so many eyes were on

yeah like me and i in that situation uh and it was just a tough situation in general because we started the channel together and you know, our whole journey was like a three year process. Yeah. I'm out to LA. So, you know, it was going to be, it was bound to be blasted all over YouTube, all over Tumblr and Twitter and for the longest time. And I still, and I still see it and there's nothing wrong with it. And there's, and there's nothing wrong with it at all. But like to this day, I still see stuff on social media sites, but like at that time,

that's all I saw. Yeah. My whole life was that grief for a long time. Yeah. And it was just a lot to deal with. And so it's just, it's, I feel like now I, I give myself the ability, like in like a let's play, it'd be like to feel a bit down, but I can still like have a good time and stuff,

but I don't have to feel that necessity to always keep up this like, Hey, everything's good. Everything's great. Hey, look at me, new YouTube stuff, coming soon. And you know, the thing is, it's like that stuff in life isn't made to be broadcasted. What you do as a personality is you're, I know it's like funny to use the word comedian for a YouTuber, but like in a sense you are because that's what you do. We make a podcast

and these videos that are for entertainment and stuff like that, that's what you do we make it we make a podcast and these videos that are for entertainment and stuff like that that's not entertainment grief and stuff that's not entertainment you know so we're not for a lot of the viewers it is in a sick way i i think drama in general is its own right from the product we make that's not the product we make yeah you know yeah so it's like we're not going to give you that i mean that that, that's the most amazing thing to me. I think as far as being, I've been on YouTube for 10 years now that are 2019 will be 10 years. And I think that's the most shocking notch. I don't know. I don't know the right word for it, but when I think about how YouTube has changed and how social media has changed, that's the thing that impresses the most upon me,

how at the beginning YouTube was this thing that people did sort of like, let's stand up against the man. You know, we couldn't make it as actors in Hollywood or musicians. Um, in, in, You know, we couldn't make it as actors in Hollywood or musicians in. We're not rock stars. So let's make videos on YouTube and be like this little independent thing and support each other. And and it's very cool. And and somewhere along the lines of those 10 years, the sands shifted underneath us and now people in tv and movies

are trying to figure out how to get onto youtube you know will smith as in like his own vlog will smith is a dang vlogger he is 100 it's it's it's amazing and with that you've seen the change in how youtube deals with itself where it's grown to the point where it's now turned inwards and a major way that people get famous on YouTube is to destroy other YouTubers, like drama channels. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Starting beef.

Starting beef, yep. It's a surefire way. Being controversial. Yeah. Because people tune into train wrecks and... Conflict. Yeah. It's the same... It's the same genetic coding that causes people to slow down

and look at a car accident. And it's the same thing. I don't like to say political stuff, but I will gladly say that I absolutely hate all 24-hour news networks. I think they're garbage, and i think they're really hurting our society because in their quest for ratings they are tearing people apart and constantly shoving the worst most heinous shit into people's faces and giving them the wrong idea of how the world is you know they they'll just look at the worst tragedy that happens at any given point and just endlessly put it in people's faces and that's because tragedy sells you know that's the thing that sucks has to be a certain

kind of tragedy yeah i'm not trying to get too deep into this whole thing but like there's a certain type of tragedy where it's where it's like um uh for example um if something of high crime if something of high crime happens in like a one let's say a neighborhood where the one percent is that's gonna be like oh shit there's burglaries and all this other stuff if that happens you know over in just like some neighborhood in like West Hollywood, like where like a bunch of apartments are, it's not going to get that much coverage. It happens. It has to like be to a specific people or. Oh yeah.

It's basically whoever the audience can reflect themselves off of. Right. It's almost like a, it's looking for the best. When I say entertaining, I don't't mean like but it's like entertaining like people get they want to follow it it rides the fine line into a reality show sometimes because they do they they they they look at the negative and then without the negative even needing more of a highlight they're just like this is bad and here's why and this is why and like all of a sudden you feel this agenda start to kind of come into it oh my god like i was just listening to a comedian i wish i knew who it was it sounded like colin quinn but i

didn't look at the radio to find out who it was um talking about exactly this and how the news isn't news the news is the actual news is what scrolls along the bottom, like 5,000 people killed in civil war in the Congo or whatever. The news that's reported on is, here's what the other side, because everyone knows the score at this point. MSNBC is for the left wing. Fox News is for the right wing. CNN, I don't know, people debate on where that falls. But that's pretty much the way it falls on the sides. And basically, any news story will be, here's what the other side said about this event.

It's not about the event itself. this event it's not about the event itself it's here's this is what's going to piss you off about the people that we are vilifying on a daily basis like a reality show because there's these characters yep and it's like character development people want to see what the characters do next and how they react to this and that they try to they try to cover it up because they'll like have someone say what happens and now here to talk about it are and then they'll bring on the guests yeah and then it's like oh here we go yeah comes people just trying to get jabs in you know all of that here in the bbc i don't know if they do it like this anymore but the way they used to do it was the news is half an hour and it's just the news it just tells you what happened all over the world

nhk does that yep and then it repeats that half an hour endlessly it just it rebroadcasts that same half hour footage and then in 24 hours it starts again that's not what we do here here um that's weird because a lot of foreign news is like bbc and hk which is the japanese one they'll do like a 20 minute block of just current events and just news and then every like hour they'll just re-air the exact same clip right because there's the same there's updates when you yeah when you break it down factually there's really only half an hour of news every day like but the way 24-hour news networks do it is they'll report on that half an hour of news and then give you 23 and a half hours of screaming opinion you know and just people yelling at each other and it it's badly

hurting our society in my opinion people watch it more than they would of regular news though that's of course the shitty part of course regular news is boring it's yeah it's profiting off of the damaging of our society in my opinion and and it grosses me out and i really hate it and i wish um i wish that small journal like real journalists would get more coverage you know well that's because there's so many amazing journalists out there that are really fighting and doing i think a great job they're stuck on like blog posts on their site yeah exactly dude i mean that was the other thing this comedian god i really wish i knew who it was but that was the other thing, this comedian. God, I really wish I knew who it was. But that was the other thing you said that struck me. I don't think so.

I've seen him live. That was the other thing. I love that. You've seen George Lopez live. I love it. You've seen Jeff Dunham live. You've seen it all, man. But yeah, that was the only other thing he was saying.

He was like, oh, shit, now I got distracted because I'm thinking of fucking peanut, that goddamn puppet of Jeff Dunham's. I'm sorry. No Peanut, that goddamn puppet of Jeff Dunham's. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. Remind me, what were we talking about? Your big secret? No, shut the fuck up. You're talking about, um, you're talking about... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was saying everyone tries to say the media is this, the media is that. He's like, the media is anyone with a laptop at this point. You know, the media is anyone he's like the media is anyone with a laptop at this point you know the media is anyone who's written one blog post it's it's it's so it's become so huge and so expansive and so unwieldy that it's not any one thing anymore it's pulitzer prize winning journalists are competing for space with some dude who's just making shit up basically it's very disturbing what what i've got it smn super mega news we're gonna start it we're gonna start on the news network 24 hours let's do it let's do it starting right now okay i'll put on instagram live all right breaking news

matt's big secret damn i've already shared all my secrets. Have you really? All of them. Okay, I'll give you one secret that you haven't ever said. Oh, that one's too much. Hold on. Give me a second to think. This is important. That's too mean. That's

why it's a secret. It's nothing you actually want to say yeah you know what I'm thinking on it now it's like they're all secrets because I don't want people to know so why am I going to share it hooray I'm so glad you fucking figured out how this feels hmm what is the definition of secret oh ew

something you don't want other people to know now I get it um I was reading about something uh terrifying recently there's a thing called aerated water and like at a suit they have like sewage treatment plants where they pump air into the water and you cannot swim in it you just fall to the bottom but you're underwater but there's no there's so much air molecules in between that you can't swim so you just drop straight to the bottom how scary is that but but you can't breathe in it? No. You're underwater because there's little air molecules between all the water.

But you cannot, like, no matter how much you try, it's just like you're standing on regular ground. Is that what happened to the diver that fell into that thing? What thing? That's a bizarre way to go. Have you seen the footage of the diver? And all of a sudden he just falls into this cavern. And he falls to, like, the bottom of the ocean. Oh, that shit's so scary. And then you just hear him freaking out at the footage of the diver and then I'll see he just falls into this cavern and he falls to like the bottom of the ocean. Oh that shit's so scary. And then you just hear him freaking out at the

bottom of the ocean. No it was um I think I read about that. Oh man. Sorry Dan. What a downer. No sharks in that one. Let's talk about something happy. Okay. Ryan, I went to the grocery store the other night to get zebra cakes. And you saw Lisa Lampanelli! Were you there too?

What? They had no zebra cakes and i was so excited i did see lisa lamp did you see lisa lampinelli no but i did see the guy that played badger from breaking bad at the grocery store and two years earlier ryan saw him at the grocery store too badger yeah i liked badger we both have seen him at separate occasions at the grocery store it was like 1 30 a.m if i find out the Badger is a Game Grumps fan, I'll be I'll be stoked Probably wants to come on. Wasn't he on like he did some YouTube videos for I don't know if it was College Humor I remember I've seen him on YouTube do stuff. Right? So I feel like he's just I love all the actors from Breaking Bad. He'd be down to come hang on the show.

Hey, let me ask you. What are your favorite movies ever? Your single favorite. Doesn't have to be the best movie, but my favorite what are your favorite movies ever? Your single favorite movie. It doesn't have to be the best movie, but my favorite. Just your favorite. Mine's easy. Everyone already knows it. It's The Iron Giant. That is on my list of things to see.

It's wonderful. Okay. Love that movie. It will not make a difference that I didn't grow up with it or anything like that? No. Oh, it's great. I think it's an animated film for kids. Right.

I think it's an animated film for kids. Right. But it doesn't feel like it's talking down to you. Cool. It's awesome. It's a very just heartwarming story. It's the whole story, I mean, not verbatim, but it gives you the same feeling at first of like a boy and his dog,

that type of thing. I'm sure I'll cry. Except it's a boy and his giant fucking robot. Yeah, I'm sure I'll cry. I put on The Kar and his giant fucking robot. Yeah, I'm sure I'll cry. I put on the Karate Kid the other day and cried for minute three all the way to the end. Mr. Miyagi's fucking

whole monologue is just depressing as shit. He's amazing. That man can catch a fly with chopsticks. That's fucking rad. He's amazing. Is that your favorite movie?

No, my favorite movie is The Last Unicorn. What is that? That is an animated movie from my childhood. Isn't that an industry party song? Oh, wow. We did a cover of the theme song from it that's what i thought yeah yeah that's uh it's an amazing film it's

it's another one like that that um you watch it as a kid and you're like yay dragons and unicorns and swords and everything and then you watch it as an adult and you're like oh this is actually about death madness and isolation it's really powerful and then Matt I think my favorite I don't know I really like Lost in Translation is one of my favorites I haven't seen it

I understood how he felt when I went to Japan I felt very alone and isolated there I did too but I also had a very almost mere When I went to Japan, I felt very alone and isolated there. I actually, I did too, but I also had a very almost mirror image of that same story happening to me. Really? So it's very like deep, I guess, for me.

Yeah. But I also really like. Worth seeing, Ryan. Good movie. Okay. Yeah. Full metal alchemist. I mean, no.

That's a good show. Full metal jacket. Full metal jacket is very powerful. That is like one of my favorite movies of all time. I like the first half more than the second half but like the I mean, it's Kubrick, man. It's so good. It's like in Kubrick's like window of where

he could not help but do amazing shit. His movies are like phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love The Shining. I love clockwork orange like full metal alchemist god i said it again yeah metal jacket yeah it's one of my favorite movies and i still say full metal alchemist um full metal jacket is just such a great movie yeah it's like perfect 2001 a space odyssey i saw that for the first time like a few months ago i haven't seen that one actually it's amazing i tried watching it once and I got too high and turned it off and fell asleep.

It's uh the setting has to be right because it's very slow. It's like almost like meditative. There's a whole sequence though where it's just like is it I'm not like is it going to stop soon but like it's just it goes on and on. You're like this is a trip. If I was on something this would scare

the shit out of me. Yeah it fucks with you. It fucks with you. But it's a great, great movie. I love the opening scene with the monkeys. Yeah. Like, that's such a good scene. It's a great, great part. And it says a lot without saying anything.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And that's why it's so cool. Yeah. Favorite album of all time. What's that? What's yours? Oh, favorite album? A Farewell to Kings by Rush. I thought you're gonna say Russia

Yeah, what rush had a run much like Kubrick rush had a run of albums Starting with caressive steel in 1975 all the way to signals in 1982 that it's just like my favorite album after favorite album after They just they just did it for me. How about you? for me, I think MBV by My Bloody Valentine. Ooh. Which is the, everyone, most people think Loveless. Which I love Loveless. But for me, I like MBV more.

Okay. And also. Is that the more recent one? Yeah, that's the more recent one that they just dropped out of the blue. Yeah. And they're working on two new albums too. Holy crap. So I'm really excited for that and i saw them in live

in concert and it was like a transcending experience yeah yeah but i think that um i like mbv just because that the point when i found it in my life it resonated very well so i have like an emotional connection to it and it's also tied with this other album i like from my freshman year of college called a pale machine by an artist called bowen so good stuff it was my it was my favorites how about you rye uh mine is very linked to just emotion um so feel free to judge my music taste no one's judging your music personally my favorite album is uh is a real boy by say anything what the fuck no i'm just kidding that's a good album i like that i've never've never heard it, actually. It's a really good album because basically one day

Daniel was listening to some stuff that he listened back in high school and I think we were in college at this point, probably freshman year. And we listened to Do Better, which is not on that album, but he's like,

oh, you like this? And then one day he just showed up to my place when we were going to hang out and he just handed me the Israel Boy CD. He was like, listen to this.

You'll like it. I'm like, okay. And so we played a lot in my car. There's a lot of memories of us singing along to it. I still play it. I listened to probably two songs off that album on the way here. We were in the car earlier.

He had great taste in music. I had limited interaction with Daniel because as he was coming into as all you guys were coming into our lives, it was when he died. But like one of the few conversations we had was about a band called Failure. They had an album called Fantastic Planet in like 1996. And I was like, dude, you like that album? And he said, I love it.

And it's one of those albums where if someone likes that album i'm like yeah they're cool you know they get it yeah there's there's there's some kind of kinship i feel with people that like certain albums and that's one of them um and uh yeah he he uh so that that was impressive i would have liked to have talked to him more about music. Just an overall very fucking talented guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was like the most talented dude I'd ever met, for sure. And I guess, not to get too personal, but I guess it was just such a weird experience for me.

Just because I, what a lot of people don't realize is I literally knew Daniel for eight or nine months. That was it. Right. That was it. Right. We've been friends online for a while, but like. You were talking on Facebook a little bit. For like a year or so.

The thing is, Daniel introduced me to you. Yeah, that's how we met. It was through Daniel. I knew Daniel from anywhere I am. That's some shit. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, that, it was just, I guess that it was just a, it's looking back, it's just such

a. Blur. Not a blur. It's just a, it's an interesting point in my life because it was so impactful. So much shit was happening. Looking back, it was such that whole era when all that shit went down and I knew Daniel. Such a small part of my life. Yeah.

You know? But it was such a big part of my life too. Because that's the thing that's different because I was with him. You were best friends forever, for years and years and years. Yeah. I mean, we knew each other since junior year of high school. Oh, yeah. He was, I think, senior year.

He was one of my history classes. And he just drew this realistic picture of George W. Bush. And I turned around. He was just, like, sketching it by looking at it because he was bored. I was like, that's just shit like that. Yeah. Like, I go back and I'm like, ah, that's a moment. Yeah.

It's like, ah, it gets me. And it's interesting how like, yeah. Cause I mean, the truth is the people that have huge impacts in your life are not necessarily always the people who are in your life the longest. Yeah. You know, I've had relationships that lasted a year that were far more impactful on my life than ones that lasted three years. You know, um, it's it's it's it's strange

that way like it time does not equal um relevance or importance uh but i i you know obviously it goes without saying that i wish he'd stuck around because yeah how great absolutely how great would it have been like if he was part of this whole crew we've assembled now you know you're fantastic yeah i i feel like i feel like he would add so much and you know ryan feel free to cut this out if this isn't too personal or whatever like i feel like we had a conversation at one point where you were having a resurgence in your grieving for him earlier this year. Yeah. And I was having a resurgence in grieving for my previous relationship, uh, earlier this year. Um, and there is something about that three year gap because you can, you can, even if you're dealing with something, when something's that huge there's

going to be a certain amount of it that can get repressed even if you're actively dealing with it head-on and i think three years is about as long as you can repress something before a healthy mind will start to push it back to the surface and be like all right deal with this now yeah yeah um i mean unhealthy people can fucking repress shit for their entire lives and it just ruins their lives and they drink a lot it becomes more the more you press something i think it becomes deeper rooted and then it starts to branch into other aspects of your life without you even realizing yeah because like if you're unhappy at the corks you're repressing something that will branch into your work into your relationships yeah even your health well you just look back at how much fucking time has passed right like i like it all like honestly it like i didn't do a good snap feels like just a snap

of the fingers like i feel like i could think back to certain things that happened during that week right that we were together um and it just doesn't feel that long. And that's where it's just kind of like, I guess the trouble with dealing with it is that you find out that time continues on, but if you don't do anything, then you remain. That's the biggest thing. It's kind of similar to relationships in the sense that like, when, when you're in a relationship with someone and you have a disagreement or a fight or a misunderstanding or anything like that, you have to deal with it. Like you have to be able to talk it out and communicate it and get it out of your systems. Um, because then you can actually like grow from it. But if you put it away or repress it or like kind of just ignore it and act like nothing happened, then it just like becomes battle damage.

That's true. Yeah. And the next time that sort of thing comes up, then the damage just gets increased and increased. And sooner or later, like you don't even realize it, but your four-year relationship was doomed three years ago when you didn't start on the path of talking shit out and working it out. And life is the same way with repressing grief. Like you have to fucking get that out of your system,

and if it pops up again, you have to fucking get it out again because it just will never go away unless you do the work you know and it's so true it's a hard lesson to learn because it sucks fucking digging that shit up confront it yeah it sucks it's like why confront it today i could just do something nice today you you know, and, and, and deal with that later. But it just later becomes every second of every day. Yeah. Later becomes later, it becomes later, it becomes later. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, just on that note, just out of respect for like Daniel and other people going that have gone through shit or are continuing to go through shit. If you're one of those people that's letting things sink in and like, I'll admit to it, I'm, I'm one of those types that's letting things sink in, and I'll admit to it,

I'm one of those types of personalities where I'm going to deal with this on my own right now. I just don't want to bring it up type of thing. Don't help me. But that can't stop me from preaching that you should seek help. You should seek a means of help. Help doesn't mean you have to find a therapist. A therapist is a really good option.

But there are so many ways that you can seek out help. And why not? I'll put a few links in the description for those who are struggling with people. And for those who want to go see some of Daniel's stuff, he has a SoundCloud. Just type in Daniel Kyer. You can find him easily on SoundCloud. K-Y-R-E. Or look at the old channel.

Old Syndigo stuff. We even have like good many episodes of the Syndago podcast. It was us starting with just Daniel and I and we had a guest every now and then. And then you joined for the last few episodes. Yep. And so if you're not too familiar with who Daniel is, go check him out. Because he was and continues to be a very

talented person and driving force in our life yeah I mean he taught me so much and I know that if he could see the channel that we've made and grown to this point he'd be super proud of us

same I don't want to be disingenuous about him that we've made and grown to this point he'd be super proud of us and same yeah i mean like it i don't want to be disingenuous about him about it i didn't know him very well but he made as big an impact as someone i'd known that length of time possibly could have you know um he's a special guy you could see it immediately and uh he deserves to have um his stuff have a light shown on it, because even though it's easy to lament and say like, oh, his best stuff was all ahead of him. You know, the stuff he did create was pretty fucking amazing. That's the thing, man. I sometimes look back.

I'm like, God damn, with what he was making like right then and like some stuff he didn't even release. And he was just he was gone for fun. It was awesome. Play in the house and stuff. It's like, God, there's a, there's so much shit that in another timeline would have, would have blew everyone away.

Yeah. Would it would have just continuously, he would have continuously blown people away. And I, and I truly fucking believe that cause he was super passionate and he was running towards what he wanted to do. Cause he was, he was like talking with a bunch of people who did music.

He did some shows in LA too. Yeah. So he is pretty much the sole reason that I ended up out here in this position and that I was able to meet Ryan and make this channel. And I, I'm really happy that you and I, Ryan can continue to make his stuff and his memory like live on through what we can continue to make you know like when we can bring him up on a podcast like this

yeah you know i wasn't even we weren't expecting this but it just happens and like it's it's nice to look back at that stuff and and keep that kind of flame going yeah yeah and if you believe in the um that concept that uh every possible universe is happening yeah at once simultaneously then you know there are infinite timelines where he is alive making awesome shit well yeah yeah just kicking back so that is nice to think about um and uh yeah man god we covered a lot of damn we got deep in this one yeah our podcast is is not a deep podcast is that right no it is not it is we just make dick jokes the whole time yeah perfect this is we've gotten deep before but i think this one we get deep every like 30 episodes yeah and then like it's just goofs and then we get deep for an episode how many of these have you done this is 115 holy shit yeah it's just goofs. And then we get deep for an episode. How many of these have you done? This is 115.

Holy shit. Yeah. It's a lot of podcasts, man. Oh yeah. So this would be your fourth deep one on that average? Probably fourth or fifth. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken.

Well, I'm very proud to have been a part of it. Thank you, Dan. We're so glad you came on finally. We're super happy to have you anytime. Welcome back. It was delightful. That's the thing. Cause like this one wasn't like a big ha ha anytime welcome back it was delightful very like that's the thing because like this

one wasn't like a big haha one but it was very engaging conversation I had a I had a good bit of haha's several times I was rocking back in my chair well that's

just the twitchy yes yeah man it's uh it I think I think honesty is the most important thing and if honesty is making dick jokes one day and being serious another, then that's fine.

Well, that's why I like doing this podcast because we can do both. It's like we can get really deep or we can just joke about regrowing our foreskin, which I'm in the process of doing. Ah, yeah, that's not easy. It hurts, bud. Thank you once again, Dan, for coming on.

It was my pleasure. where can people find you exactly people people can find me uh at youtube.com slash ninja sex party and at youtube.com slash game grumps yeah um all of Dan's incredible music is on all music platforms thank you itunes spotify all that stuff go check it out because it is fantastic go check out the music videos too because Ryan and I have had the pleasure of being in a couple of them. Oh, that is delightful. Now, Dan's got a voice. Just make sure you listen to his stuff.

If you listen to this podcast, you've probably already listened to his stuff 10 times over. But his voice is like skating on a fresh ice rink. Very smooth. Very nice. Like buttering myself. Thank you. Like covering my loins in butter. And then getting a warm blanket and sliding across the ice it is

the only thing that i love enough um to do the 10 000 hours of work on you know that that that are required to be good at something and it's the reason i quit smoking weed that and i didn't want to be stupid anymore but i'm still enjoying it. Oh, dude, please. How old are you? I'm 24. Oh, my God. Dude, take your time. Have fun.

It makes me too airheaded now. I'll come back when I'm 30 and rethink. I didn't quit until I was... God damn it. I quit, I think, when I was like 32. Yeah. I do it like once every two or three weeks now just because I get too sleepy. Yeah.

I do it like once every three, two or three weeks now just because I get too sleepy. Yeah. Well, I can't remember when it happened because it was sort of like diminishing returns for a little while before I actually quit. But it was weird because when I first started smoking when I was 19, I was really struggling with OCD at the time and weed totally helped me with my anxiety. Oh, that's one of the reasons I started doing it was because I have terrible OCD. I fucking loved it and I did not like taking pharmaceutical drugs that didn't hit me well. So I started smoking weed and it was the fucking best and I loved the way it made music sound.

And then somehow there was some sort of chemical shift in my body over the next like 10 or 12 years where the substance that relieved anxiety then started to cause anxiety and i was like i mean when i was like 21 yeah i was like what the fuck am i paying for this for you know like why am i seeking this out and then of course after i stopped smoking it became legal everywhere and yeah disclaimer we're talking about marijuana but where we we live, it is fully legal. Oh, in California, yeah. Recreationally legal. Their doors are literally open.

You just walk in, show them your ID. Because I moved to California back when they still were kind of, you know. You have a medical card. The no number doors. Yeah. It's like, where is this place? There's no sign. Yeah.

It's funny. And I mean, in other parts of the country it is straight up illegal and you'll go to jail for it if you live in one of those parts of the country we're not condoning marijuana to all those stupid south carolina cops out there oh better luck next time easy now well yeah i'm gonna get them all on my head and be like he's coming he's coming for christmas i don't want to catch him with weed Catch him with weed. I don't want to encourage any... You know what? I'll tell you. Here is a secret

that I've never said before. Before that, I want to say that was not serious. Of course not. I know people who work in law enforcement. In fact, my mom works in law enforcement. Ryan's antagonizing law enforcement. So I have a respect for what they do. And I also realize the general situation.

Ha ha, I get it. Okay, boom. Boom. Yeah, I will say what my biggest regret is, and I've never said this publicly. Because it's weed related. It's not the most fun thing, but it's a regret. It's Dan's big secret.

It is. but it's a regret it's dan's big secret uh yeah i deeply regret all the times i drove uh while stoned um because i absolutely was impaired and i could have hurt somebody uh including myself and i feel even though no one got hurt fortunately fortunately, and I drive like a fucking grandma, and if I hit anyone, it would have been at 15 miles an hour, and they would have bounced off my car just fine. I regret having put anyone else in that situation and in danger, and that is something I have to live with. That is very noble. I guess. It's very honorable to admit that because there's that whole thing right like the uh the stereotype of uh you know drinking drinking and

driving versus smoking driving right truth is they're both shitty yeah you know you're impaired you're impaired and and of course smoking and driving is probably better because I would say there are cases where smoking and driving would make you overly cautious rather than drinking and driving where I don't. I feel like. Oh, yeah, that's awful. You're just super impaired. We got to get home. Go fast. The cops are going to get us.

The cops go in. Sorry, the cars go in like five miles. Yeah, totally. I feel like drinking and driving. No one ever. Gets hour. Yeah, totally. I feel like drinking and driving, no one ever... Gets hurt. No, no. No one ever is more cautious because they are drunk. But I don't know that for sure.

But then again, when I was younger, Uber was never a thing. And now it would be much easier and much better because you can just get fucked up and then call someone and they'll drive you yeah thank god for uber i think that's wonderful and on that salute to uber i you know what i bet i'm a uh i bet like injuries and deaths as a result of driving impaired at least in big cities where uber is have i bet those have gone way down oh yeah oh definitely yeah with the introduction of uber because it's like oh you don't have to worry about a DD anymore you can just go out and get fucked up. That's awesome. Yeah. The biggest killer of man. Cars.

Really? That's the real enemy we gotta destroy all cars. Today we'll be hunting the most dangerous game. Man. Actually that is the biggest killer of man is man. So start killing guys. Oh yeah. Animals have their predators men have their wars.

Oh, damn. That was on some science fiction thing that I can't remember. Very deep. Yeah, it was like so, so deep. Well, Dan, thank you again for coming on. Hey, my pleasure. Check out his stuff, it'll be in the description. Yeah. And, uh... You can look up Ninja Sex Party's YouTube page at buttsex.info. Can you?

That's actually true. That's one of the domains we purchased. That is. Pretty proud of that. Was that Brian's idea? Absolutely. I knew that sounds like a Brian idea. To the core. That sounds fantastic, though.

But thank you. We love you, Dan. I love you. Oh. I love you. Samesies. Okay. All right.

There we go. And we love you, fans. Thanks a lot. Thanks for tuning in. See you next week. Bye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.