supermegashow - EP 193 - Hippy-Dippy

Episode Date: May 20, 2020

Listen as we talk about body-image, ghouls, and psychedelics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your jobs projects done well. I absolutely love this because, you know, if you own a home, it can be really hard to maintain. It's hard to find people that can help you for a big project or a small. Well, whether it's an everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality, it can be hard just to know where to start. making dream projects a reality, it can be hard just to know where to start. But now, all you need to do is answer that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need. Angie has over 20 years of home service experience, and they've combined it with new tools to simplify the whole process. Bring them your project online or with the Angie app, answer a few questions, and Angie can handle the rest from start to finish.

Or help you compare quotes from multiple pros and connect instantly. Which means you can take care of just about any home project in just a few taps. Because when it comes to getting the most out of your home, you can do this when you Angie that. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-G-I dot com. Uh.

Ah. Ah. Ah. He turned into a, went from a fart to a little tune. I was like, I was like, I was starting it out with a fart sound effect. Then I changed it. It was like a, it was like a dubstep riser.

Fuck yeah, guys. Welcome to Super Megacast episode 193. I said it before you. I know you did. And I, I. Sorry. Not sorry. Let's restart the podcast.

Nope. I told you I wanted to say the number this time and, not sorry. Let's restart the podcast. Nope. I told you I wanted to say the number this time, and it's really shitty that you would do that. Well, I'm getting sick of this, man. I quit at episode 200. I'm getting sick of you. Oh, shit, dude. I try to say the episode. The episode number has always been my thing. Super Mega finally breaks up.

Yeah, man, but welcome, everybody. I'm Matt Watson. I'm Ryan McGee. Because some people still 193 episodes in say they can't tell the difference between our voices. I feel like we have a very similar tone of voice. Yeah, we do. Like it would be, I don't know. It would be the same. Imagine if you don't know how to speak English and you heard these two voices talking. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, the thing is, I always wondered how do people not tell their voices apart? And then recently I went on a podcast called these two voices talking yeah you know what i mean well the thing is uh i always wondered how do people not tell our voices apart and then recently i went on a podcast called pot about

list and it's three hosts and i know like i know all of them separately but when i listen i only know one of the guy's voices the rest like uh this guy named caleb uh l caleb on the podcast you went on yeah the podcast went on and I can't I know Caleb's voice But the other two like I just can't when I listen I'm not very good at telling them apart, and I'm like I know them But I can't tell their voices apart when I listen to it do I want well we also have to have different We speak differently. I'm more nicely much like Obama has a different cadence Then uh I don't know who this is, but Brent.

I think at the end of the day, our voices are different, but not different enough where people's brains can make a huge, distinct distinction. But same. Exactly, right? Exactly. Wait a second. For some reason, my calves hurt a lot today. Your calves look massive.

Like, they're really sore today. Dude, they look, your calves are so pronounced compared to your lower leg that your calves almost look like implants put into your legs because there's... How have you always had such great calves? Because you don't even work your legs out, but your calves are fucking... I want to know if it's...

Where are mine? Where are mine? Look at mine. Can you even see mine? Compare them to yours. I feel like my calves are like this because I masturbate so much. And, you know, you're straining.

Oh, that's got to be it. I'm like, are you a leg stretcher? Oh, yeah. I've had this conversation. This is a very untalked about topic between men. But there's two groups of guys. There's guys that jerk off and guys that jerk off and have to stretch their legs really hard to jerk off. Like you got to like.

Well, I don't have to. I'm just like, like, if i if i want to if i want to get to the conclusion fast conclusion fat why is that i don't uh blood because that's like a real thing that like like everyone i talk to you know when i meet a new business client uh first thing i bring up is i'm like so when you masturbate do you do you flex your leg muscles does it help you reach uh orgasm faster yeah uh why is that though it scientists in the comments uh wikipedia scientists let's go ahead and uh let's see that also guys you can go ahead and stop trying to edit the wikipedia page for g score by ryan star because they locked that one oh did they lock it locked

they had to lock it because people decided like this is a war now and some wikipedia moderator was like it is a time for this shit you bought bought that StarFan in Square. Yeah, I know, I know. I did buy that StarFan in Square. And I'm pissed off. I'm real fucking pissed off. There was a point where it was on Wikipedia for a while as Ryan McGee. It was nice. It was. I have a screenshot of it. It's on Twitter. If you want to go check that out.

But, no, it's right back to just being FooUA and Gscorpi. And by the way, I have not received my goddamn certificate yet. Still. Because it's a scam. I paid $100 for the certificate. I paid, it's supposed to be framed, comes to my address.

No. Matt. At this point, I'll give a fuck. You have a checkmark for a reason. Why don't you use it for a change? Blast them on Twitter. I'll do it right now. You know what?

I'm going to finally do it. I'm going to use my Twitter to blast a corporation. I remember one time I blasted Ruby Tuesdays. Because my dad and I were going out to have like, I can't remember if it was a father's day or a birthday. It was something special. And my dad wanted to go to Ruby Tuesdays. And, you know, I can do Ruby Tuesdays. I can eat at that salad bar all day. I'm not the biggest fan of it, but we got there and we like waited for about 10 minutes

drinks or nobody came. And we, then we like flag someone down like, Hey, can we get a drinks and whatever? They're like, Oh yeah, let me go get someone. No one came again. We flagged someone down again. We're like, hey, no one's come gotten us. It's been like quite a bit of time. It feels like, probably around 20,

25 minutes or so. And then, they're like, oh yeah, sorry, we'll be right there. What do you want? And they took our drink orders down

and then never came back again. And so my dad and I just left and went to Chili's. And might I say, Chili's is way better than Ruby Tuesday's. You know, sorry. You know who worked at Ruby Tuesday? No.

Bill. Did he? Kill Bill the rapper, yeah. Makes a lot of sense now. He worked at Ruby Tuesday's for years. So, how you been? Alright. How's that Freddie Dredd music video coming along?

It's finally coming out. We had to wait for RCA to... We filmed it like... Wait, are you starting to beef with RCA? No, no, no, no. One of the biggest for labels in the world no not at all it just the process takes a long time because you know because because i remember you were telling me earlier of how how rca were just little no no no no no no no no no no no no not at all i didn't say anything like that the thing is uh it's a long process to get samples clear because uh i you know me they're weak-minded fools who don't understand business.

I don't think I said that. He didn't. I don't think I said that. There's a part of you I know that's legitimately like – There's a little part of me that's like, oh, no, the wrong person from RCA hears this. No, because I've been having to do phone calls to RCA. Because basically a long time – so some of you guys know I have that other thing lazy eye where I do music videos with the Tucker bros and I we did one for Freddie

Dredd and then we have another one we shot on like a red dragon and we rented a warehouse and police cars and shit and it's a good video but we haven't been able to release it because Freddie when he makes music only like uses samples for his beats. And RCA is like, okay, well, whenever you make a song, we have to go through the whole process. You can't just release it. We have to go through the process of contacting the person that made the original sample and getting it cleared and clearing that sample.

So when artists sample something, if you have a record deal, you have to actually get permission. I deal, you have to actually get permission. I mean, you have to get permission regardless. So it took like half a year. Is there like a thing in the music industry about people using samples versus producing their own stuff or whatever? No, I don't think so. I don't think people see sampling as like a... Because sometimes we'll all hear a sample or whatever.

And I'm like, oh, it's linked to this song. And someone else is like, no, it's this song. And I'm like, oh, it's linked to this song. And someone else is like, no, it's this song. And I'm like, oh, shit, it's used on many different songs. A lot of samples are used in many songs. Can you lay claim to a sample? No. The only person that can own a sample is the person that made it. So someone could make a, technically, a Freddie Dredd song, right?

Or whatever? Use the same beat? Yeah. So you mean someone else can make a beat using the same sample and yeah yeah as long as they got permission from the person that owns the sample so like wait if i if i took one of the samples that freddie used and just like kind of started the song with it would people at first think that i was freddie and then i can go in and just kind of be like just kidding what's What's up? What's up, bitches? Freddie's right in his back. They'll be like, God, he fell off.

Do the exact same sample. Copy the beat. Like, yeah, I'm sure you probably could. You'd probably have RCA barking at you, but the thing is, it's worth the laugh.

We finally had to ditch a sample because the whole problem was just in the intro of Freddie's popular TikTok song, GTG, was the intro sample and we ditched it and had frank javc recreate it uh do like a brand new one which i like a lot more so when you fuck bitches they're trying to get stitches because i spread it out the ass with my

big dick uh freddie gonna get some head freddie gonna give some head freddie play video games freddie masturbate freddie sleep freddie wake up freddie have rice krisp hair freddie play video games freddie masturbate freddie sleep freddie wake up freddie have rice krispies freddie this is daily his daily routine that that is so like not far off from freddie right now as as someone who has witnessed his daily routine from the time he wakes up to the time he goes to bed absolutely that is that is his daily routine didn't you tell me that like you're like ryan you thought i was unhealthy freddy is another story like like freddy will wake up like 2 p.m like why i mean you and i do the same thing we woke up at four today yeah but you know we'll wake up late the difference is i don't go to the fridge and crack a beer before i drink some coffee sometimes i'll'll do that, but on most days,

no. And then, uh, Freddie, Freddie, Freddie is an, is an unhealthy. I love,

he's an unhealthy little boy and I, I want his health to be a priority to himself. And, uh, if it's not, we're going to have to get, uh, queer eye guys out to Toronto to go,

uh, to Freddie dreads luxury apartment where he has five arcade machines in his living room. Have I ever told you I have this weird kind of thing? I don't know what it is, but whenever I watch the show or whenever it's kind of popularized, I get kind of nervous because in my head I'm like,

I know I'm the type of person for someone to be like, hey, can you fix this dude up? He dresses like shit. He's dirty. He needs to learn how to cook himself some meals. Like I always get nervous. I'm like, are the gays going to show up at my house?

The gays are here. Oh, sorry. The fab five. I, I wish they were just called the gays. The gay five. The gay five.

It's really funny. You bring that up because last time I was watching Queer Eye, I just remember I was like, ah, man, what if we like, what if we got Ryan on this? Like, what if we legitimately called them on Ryan? Like, would they do it? I'm sure they would. I don't know.

They're doing Brooklyn next, right? That's their next thing. Are you ever nervous? Huh? Have you ever been legitimately nervous that, like, someone's going to secretly call the gay five on you? Yeah, but the thing is they would contact me. They don't just show up as a surprise like they do or like whatever they set it up and everything of course with the producers but like i've always been like i am the prime candidate you really are you really are because you because

what i see is i see a man that's a blank canvas with a lot of potential for but i but i look at their shit and like every episode i'm like what they're saying is getting through to these people and i'm just like what i i don't get how they get through to people because i guess maybe my self-confidence is lower than anybody that's been on the show before i doubt that but but like they seem they do seem to fix not fix them but they're like they take them out to go get clothes and like see don't you think you look good and the people like yeah i do look good but i don't think they could do that for me i think i'd still see my tits and my stomach and i'd be like i think a lot of people just know i don't like this can i get my black t-shirts back a lot of people need affirmation i think a lot of people just need a little kick in the pants with some affirmation i get an affirmation i have good

friends like you and justin well then maybe you're the type of person where affirmation doesn't have to come from outside. It has to come from within. Yeah. Which is hard. It's the hardest type of affirmation. I see the comments are like, fuck, Ryan doesn't believe that he's attractive or that he's not fat and all this shit. And I'm like, well, one, because you're fans and it's hard to like, I mean, not to say that i don't trust the fans but the thing is it is hard like believing like not it's not like oh viewers are liars but it's like when you have a lot of

people i guess uh looking up and like admiring i guess it's harder to it seems like take that at face value yeah you know but just because it's like you it in a way it becomes numb. You become numb to it. But I weighed myself this morning. I think I, you know, I'm 194. Oh, you lost six pounds since last time I checked. Really? Was I 200 last time? Yeah. Okay.

Or right below 200. I said I was right below 200. Fuck yeah, dude. Congrats. The thing is I've been stuck at 194 for, let me see. You know how sometimes you hit a plateau when you're losing weight? Or I guess you wouldn't know. Well, you're only, only you know you're only like about 50 pounds more than me now really think of it in that way but i still have so much extra fucking fat and shit dude you think well

you're also taller yeah i definitely i don't think it like when i can physically grab it i can hold it this isn't just like a body dysmorphia issue. Look, I can do the same thing with my fucking stomach. No, you can do the same, but you're like, but look at this. This is legitimately excess. Look at this jiggle. You're turning me on a little bit with that. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. You're turning me on, dude.

I can press my titties together. You may want to put my dick between those tits. I can create cleavage. I have dude, dude, I can create mid cleavage with the mid fat I have. Don't come to me telling me I don't, I think I don'tage. I have dude. Dude, I can create mid cleavage with the mid fat I have. Don't come to me telling me I don't. I think I don't know what I look like. I think I have a clear view of what I look like. And I think it's I think it's disgusting.

You're always going to have a little bit a little bit of something to grab. Because even I even myself at 140 pounds. I got my tiger stripes on my side. Yeah. Get some coconut oil. Will they go away? Yeah. If you you got.

They look pretty purple and pretty deep cause I'm such a fat man you can get rid of those fat men you can get rid of stretch marks you gotta use tight

coconut oil yeah I I know I'm not morbidly obese but to me whenever I look in the mirror

I it's always the same the same shape it's just pear you're your own worst critic dude I see a pear I hate when I look in the mirror

when I like especially when I have my shirt off like when i wear a tp like whenever i wear shirts i feel like i i have tp or a pear when i get into the shower or a pair wearing a tp costume okay yeah a pair dressed as a sack of jewish yeah when i get into the shower and i look in the mirror and i have my shirt off i'm like oh i get horribly self-conscious because I don't have any pectoral muscles and I'm skinny. I can see my ribs and I just Yeah, but that looks kind of like

the base, right? That's like, I think there's a difference between like, yes, you can have pecs, but I'd rather have no pecs than tits like I have now. They're not tits, dude. Ryan, I've known people that have tits like i have now they're not tits dude dude you can you can get a good

ryan i've known people that have tits before dude i i promise you i have more to grab than some women that watch our show the problem is you just uh only the only people you see in real life are incredibly skinny tall men you well also well like think about like all of my all of my friends that i talk to on a regular all your friends are skinny you uh jackson harrison carson justin justin's a justin's a lot like uh me in terms of like how skinny he is yeah justin might even be skinnier than me i don't know i think just might be a little skinnier than me i've been gaining weight during quarantine, but it's from alcohol. But he's also shorter.

Yeah. He's a short king. Just kidding. He's a tall king. Justin stands above them all. He won't listen to this. No, he won't. We can say anything we want about Justin on the podcast because he won't listen to the podcast because he doesn't edit the podcast.

Exactly. We can discuss whatever we want. But like when when when you go out for the day let me put it this way matt it's so bad that even when coming to the office to see my friend i will go through five different shirts and look in the mirror or like see how it feels just because like i like i like, like I wear big black shirts because I don't like the feeling of it tightening and then seeing this shit. So like, even, I remember even back in high school, I would, I would put on like five different shirts to be like, am I comfortable in this? No, I don't like, I look and I don't know.

I do that sometimes. It's always been a fucking thing. But I feel like when you do it, it's specifically like to see if your clothes match. Mine is to see if my body looks good in my clothes. Oh, I did the same. No, it is like sometimes I'll put on a shirt and I'll be like, I don't like the way that feels on me. Like, look, it fits me today. I don't like that.

Dude, I just want to like once you feel more, you don't have to feel more confident. Let's go. Like, I want to I want to take you clothes shopping, bro. It's the problem, though. Like, if I get those shirts that like are appropriate size and it hugs me a little bit it's i'm gonna feel self-conscious because i can just feel that constantly or like when i sit down then i can see it more well why do you gotta get clothes that are like tight baggies in it's 2020 baggies baggies in you can get baggy clothes dude i love to get baggy clothes are super i've started

wearing large t-shirts this is not this is a this is a medium but i've started wearing ones that are like i started wearing large and extra large t-shirts because i can tuck them in and it's nice and baggy on me i'm only 20 pounds away no i'm uh what's your goal my goal is 175 okay so you're really close 20 pounds away less than 20 pounds but part of me is wondering if I need to lose more weight than that because this is a lot of jiggle. No, dude. Just don't even think about that. You think all of this is just 20 pounds? Easily.

Don't even think about it that way. Don't think about like, oh, I need to lose more. Just goal by goal. Set it goal by goal, you know? Dude, I'll do this. I'll look and my goal is 175 and that's what my goal is. You can see what I'd be with a tight stomach. Let me see.

Lift that up. Dude, you also like, but you do have the body type though where you could just get so jacked. You could be so, you could do it now. You could kick my ass now. But if you got like, you have the body type to just be one of those incredibly ripped built dudes that just kill me. I have natural mass. I have natural, heavy upper build. Not in terms of I'm not like, oh, I'm heavy muscular, but I'm a very husky.

Dude, you'd look like Thanos if you got ripped. Ooh. Like Josh Brolin? Yeah, you'd look like Josh Brolin. Do you think I could pull off that Ryan Reynolds look? Maybe the Hugh Jackman look? Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah.

I'd love for one day. You'd be a huge jacked man. I wouldn't ever want to be jacked like that, but I would like to, to be able to go out in public and look through, like, look at the shop windows and see my reflection and not want to like fucking look away and be like, damn, okay. I look good today. Cause I know, like, I always feel like I look good when I the only mirror is like the rear view mirror I'll look up and I'll be like I'm wearing sunglasses and my hair looks decent today

but anything below that I'm like yo I said this probably 200 times on the podcast that I I don't get how you don't like your hair because I'm so jealous of it I like my I like my hair to have your hair but it's uh I think it's a little too poofy. Because remember, whenever I would wear it down, like, I think I honestly, I,

when I look at myself when I had long hair and whenever I had it down, I think it looks bad. Have you seen Max's old hair? I think it looked bad. Max looks great with long hair. You guys have the same type of hair. To his shoulder.

You guys have the same type of thick hair. Yeah, but he also has a different head shape and a different like, like his face looks different. Yeah, but you have a great head shape for fucking doing it. You can do anything with your hair. My guys have the same type of thick hair. Yeah, but he also has a different head shape and a different like face. Yeah, but you have a great head shape for fucking doing it. You can do anything with your hair. My head shape is like a planter's peanut. No, it's not. What?

It's like this. I don't know what it is. It's like a bean. It's like a pinto bean. It's a symmetrical head. Like a very nicely shaped head. I have a weird ass shaped head. See from the side, it's like chin that kind of is like weird. And then I got this like it's big up top and then but i always felt like you have like a very nice unique look not in like a oh not in an i'm trying

to call you ugly in a nice way that's very sweet but like you you you you stand out oh thank you but i feel like i in a crowd can be lost quite but i think i'm just another kind of about themselves well i'm another white dude with a beard, you know? Ryan, you're Middle Eastern. Yeah. Come on, don't. You're Middle Eastern and Asian. You know, I'm somewhat Asian.

So if anyone wants to, you know, call us out for being racist towards Middle Easterners, Asians. Well, your mom is also from Africa. Or Africa. Yeah, but that's that's geographical that has nothing to still still your roots are in africa so i don't see uh northern africa is the middle east essentially still africa technically geographically yeah yeah so that's all i gotta say she was born in africa She was born in Northern Africa. Weren't we all born in Africa? No, I was born in Columbia, South Carolina.

No, Ryan, weren't we all? No, I know what you're saying. Born in Africa. Humanity comes from Africa. Yes. We originated in Africa. Yeah. I am an African.

Asians are, oddly enough, given the funny ha-ha stereotypes of each given race or whatever but asians are what aren't they like closer to uh africans than other races i remember reading something that like uh i think like in terms of evolutionary like charts i think uh asian people are close more closely related to african people than like for instance white people and stuff which i guess that makes sense geographically because africa is closer to asia than you know north america is or something could you imagine what or i don't know we see humans and there's all different types of humans just like they're all different types of

dogs but the difference being like I'm wondering if if there was a alien species that started the kind of once we kind of became humans out of the the during the evolutionary track because you know there is that noticeably different enough from like primates and like monkeys

but like if if there was a superior alien race and they started kind of like breeding us with different shit, like what would that look like? Because you know how dogs, there's pugs and great Danes and all that shit. What is that with humans? Or is that simply just like

mixed race people? Well, you know what's funny? What's funny is I guess technically, like it doesn't exist on Earth, but I guess technically there could be other races of humans that don't exist today but like if the earth had developed differently and different like i guess technically there could be different races in an alternate universe that could exist that wouldn't be black white asian anything like that like it would be something completely different and look completely different from anything we have today and we're getting to the abusive side of the argument but like we made so many different looking

types of dogs like if we could we could we have done that with deers like could there be short miniature fat ass deer I guess technically yeah I guess any species if you were to domesticate it or just breed it enough read them with the the unfortunates of its

of its herd yeah i guess technically so because you know like cats and dogs for instance you know they all share a common ancestor but now if you look at them today there's so many there's all there's like definitely different types of cats but when you look at the realm of like the spectrum of different types of dogs versus cats you know know, cats generally all look the same. You know, they still, you know, some will have like the, they have the, what is it called?

The pouty, what's the pouty cat looking face called? Well, you're thinking of a domesticated cats. Think about like outside of that, like lions, tigers, ocelots, stuff like that. Lions, tigers, and bears all mine. But what are we, our foxes are in the canine family. Are they in their own little thing? Isn't that weird? canine family. Are they in their own little? Isn't that weird?

They're not. They're in their own thing, I think. Really? Yeah. Let me double check that. Because I always thought foxes were like, I was like, oh, foxes are come across like a canine. But Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your jobs projects done well. I absolutely love this because, you know, if if you own a home it can be really hard to

maintain. It's hard to find people that can help you for a big project or a small. Well whether it's an everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality it can be hard just to know where to start. But now all you need to do is answer that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need. Angie has over 20 years of home service experience, and they've combined it with new tools to simplify the whole process. Bring them your project online or with the Angie app. Answer a few questions and Angie can handle the rest from start to finish. Or help you compare quotes from multiple pros and connect instantly, which means you can take care of just about any home project in just a few taps. Because when it

comes to getting the most out of your home, you can do this when you Angie that. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-g-i.com fanduel casino's exclusive live dealer studio has your chance at the number one feeling winning which beats even the 27th best feeling saying i do who wants this last parachute i do enjoy the number one feeling winning in an exciting live dealer studio exclusively on fanduel casino where winning is undefeated. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca.

Please play responsibly. Fox. Coyotes are canines. Yeah, coyotes. Coyotes are canines. Wolves are canines. There's wild dogs. There's wild hogs. Oh, fuck. Yeah, you don't Coyotes are canines. Wolves are canines. There's wild dogs. There's wild hogs.

Oh, fuck, yeah. You don't want to mess with them. Dude, growing up in South Carolina, people would always be like, hey, be careful about going around the woods. You don't want to run into a wild boar. And whenever I went into the woods, I was super afraid of running into a wild boar. You could hear them sometimes. Okay, never mind. Foxes are related to dogs.

They're part of the canidae family. Dude, have you ever seen a wild boar? Like in the woods? No. It would scare me. Aren't they mean? I don't know. They're wild animals.

I guess all wild animals can be. You know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying, man. I've seen them. I've seen them before. I've seen them when kayaking in – my dad took me kayaking in some really rural part of – I hate that word. Rural. Rural.

Rural part of South Carolina, very far away from like any main towns. And we were going through the woods, and there was a little island. And on the coast were a bunch of wild boars just they're just like brown wild pigs with big lake murray they have an island like that except it's for goats yeah and they were just they were all going and running around when uh see i've heard them before like i've like in the woods like i've heard the like out in the distance or like they're you know the squeal that's really loud but i've never heard uh i've never seen them in the wild it's crazy how like i guess where we grew up like i guess wild pigs technically just not pigs but

close enough ran around aren't they known to gore people i don't know that i don't they can get huge they can get massive they're dangerous like they're like they'll gore people i'd imagine because they have horns and also they're a wild animal and wild animals are going to, yeah, they have tusks and wild animals are going to, you know, like if they curve like that and they just gets in here. Yeah, I mean, same with bulls and shit. Like those people that do

the bull marathons, like running from the bull and then get like mauled. All it takes is the bull horn to go dead. What do you expect? I'm not doing that shit. What do you expect? File the horns down. I don't understand my my favorite tradition is when they um when they have a big funny flag and wear a big funny hat and then slowly kill a bull by poking holes in it while it's in the most stress of its life it's just it's like why am i in this much stress yeah they like of course it's gonna fucking charge at people and attack it well don't they give it a bunch of testosterone shit too

or they like fuck with it before they get angry I think they rile it up though I hate bullfighting like bullfighting and shit like that I'm all down for bull riding bull riding hell yeah but bullfighting it's like let's this you know this animal that's just a regular

innocent animal let's fucking abuse it and piss it off and then kill it it's also not our culture so it's not important to us so that's true to us it's culturally not important so you know it's just it's just bizarre to me poor running of the bull running the bull i wouldn't want to do that because i'd be more afraid of being trampled by by a crowd than being trampled by the one bull behind the crowd. I have this weird part of me that would love to do running to the bull. I don't trust people.

I trust that bull more than I trust people. I feel like it would be very exhilarating to do that. But also, I've seen there's a subreddit called rslashthebullwins and it's exactly what you think it is. And it's, after seeing enough... I can't watch those sometimes.

Oh, fuck. Okay, I don't want to. I never want to fuck with a bull. There was one where the horn went into the guy's chin and it kind of drug him a little bit. I think it, did that kill him? I think. A lot of people die from bulls. I don't know, but there's an injury like that in a hot, have you seen, we watched Hot Fuzz, right?

Oh, yeah, the dude with the spike. On the model of the church. I remember, speaking of like wild animals where we grew up, I remember bobcats have the most terrifying sounding like cries. And I was camping with my old man and I was in the tent. It was the middle of the night and middle of nowhere in South Carolina. My dad wakes me up. He's like, Matt, Matt, listen. of the night and middle of nowhere in South Carolina,

my dad wakes me up. He's like, Matt, Matt, listen. And probably about 20 feet from our tent is a bobcat that's doing like a cry to another one. And it's like, it's just this horrifying sound. Bobcats are horrifying. Also coyotes are scary. I think any wild animal doing its wild animal

noises can sound freaky. It can sound like a baby being thrown off a roof. It can sound like honestly this one time I thought someone was being abused around the area that I was like listening to but it turned out I think it was just like a cat or something. Oh cats. Cats. If cats

when cats are. It sounded like a woman's scream. No and cats. Cats when they're having territory fights will make sounds that I'm like you don't even know like a cat could make. Listen this is a bobcat scream in the woods. Middle of the night I'm trying you don't even know like a cat could make listen this is a bobcat scream in the woods middle of the night I'm trying to sleep oh you recorded it no no it's on YouTube oh wait

wait that's like a sonar like a that's horrifying fucking terrifying if I was if I imagine uh imagine the sun going down like it's almost dark and you're kind of just walking in the woods and all of a sudden you just hear that and you're like about a mile away from like base camp or whatever this yeah so like that so i'm in i think about this

i'm i'm young i'm like 10 and i'm in the woods in the middle of the night away from civilization. You hear that echoing through the woods. Terrifying. I remember just laying there, scared my mind. And there were two of them on opposite sides of the tent. So then they were doing it back and forth. So it's like the tent was like surrounded by that. It was terrifying.

My dad was like, damn, son, this is cool. And I was like, no, it's not. This is fucking. I'm not having a good time. How do I know that's not a fucking cryptid that's going to come rip into the tent and pull my legs off? Man, being a kid was cool because like the existence of creatures, like when I hear that sound, it's scary for a different reason. Because I can link it to a predator that I should 100% be afraid of. But when I was a kid, my mind would go and be like, that could be a creature.

That could be a monster. of but when i was a kid my mind would go and be like that could be a creature that could be a monster i miss i miss being able to believe in ghosts and monsters and shit as a kid because there's that there's that type of fear about that specific thing that's so unique that you can't get back because it's a fear because you mature out of it or some people still believe in ghosts or whatever i don't think i've matured out of that i still if i heard that i'd still like there'd be a part of me that's like no what i'm saying is it's for a different reason. Like if you know, I like, if I heard it, if I heard that sound in the woods today, there's still a part of me that would think it's like not an animal.

Well, now you know what the sound is, right? Yeah. But I would still, my, my brain would get freaked out and I'd be like, like, I've read enough creepy shit on the internet. Like what if, what if this is that? Yeah. It's just like at the end of the, like like it's the same reason why there's some like videos on the internet where it's like top 10 creepiest ghost videos on the internet like they're eerie but the same way a horror

movie is creepy like it's creepy imagery but i don't find it i don't look at that and like i don't have trouble sleeping because i don't believe in like demons or ghosts or anything like that. Yeah, I feel that. I, I, I've believed in that shit. Like I couldn't help it growing up. That shit just scared me. So then when I would be, when I was in religion, I believed in demons and all that shit. Well, a hundred percent. Cause my mom and dad would tell me they're like, like energy, positive and negative,

right? Yeah, no. And my mom and dad would tell me that demons are real because they're strong Christians. So then like, you know, if you have your parents telling you like, yeah, demons are real. It's like, oh, shit. It's like, yeah, demons are real. There's a demon in them. Demons.

Yeah, fucking scary, man. Do you believe in ghosts? I don't not believe in ghosts, but I don't firmly believe in ghosts. Like, I feel like I think that it is possible just as like an ant can't comprehend humans. I feel like, you know, we, an ant in its own right thinks it's the most advanced, like to, to an ant or an animal, like each creature, I guess, thinks it's like the high, like the most advanced species. I don't think animals think like, oh, there's species in terms of consciousness above me.

Yeah. But using that argument, like using that argument, right. terms of consciousness above me yeah but using that argument like using that argument right like uh i mean then ghosts wouldn't exist because what we comprehend as a ghost isn't at all what a ghost is right no i'm not yeah i think that i think that there could definitely be something uh higher than humans that exists on a plane that we are unable to understand because just like an ant can't understand our thoughts or our stuff. But I'm talking in terms of evil spirits and like a woman dressed up

as a maid floating in the hallway. Oh yeah, like that shit, I don't know. I don't think, I think if there are higher If there are higher beings, they're not dressed up as maids hovering around someone's basement. Yeah, I don't believe that. I think –

They have better stuff to do. I think it's plausible that there could be higher forms of consciousness like beyond humanity that we can't comprehend just because there's different dimensions. And then, you know, it's like we're not – like we're supercomputers. We're super smart. But like in terms of the universe, I'm sure there's plenty of things that we can't comprehend because our brains don't function at that level. Our brains a lot more powerful than we give it credit for because I'd link all of like the ghost shit to just someone's brain just kind of misfiring. Or basically like your brain, you will, you as a human will try to fill in gaps, right? Yeah. Like in back in religion, there's argument of, you know,

the God of the gaps where in everything you don't understand, you place God and in everything we do understand their science. And that's, that was an art. That was a, it might still be a decent argument on the religious versus like the non-religious side. But I feel that if there were such thing as ghosts or spirits it's not in the sense of uh some yeah that it would it would just be maybe not even a being because when we're

talking about like there being something else outside of us i really don't think even this is kind of in a way a weird way of saying it but there's no way we could even comprehend the yeah like not just the complexity but the way of the way the existence yeah because to us it would be like oh I wonder what those beings are thinking it's like well we think of thinking is thinking but they don't like

you know you can't fucking because it's literally beyond human comprehension because what I think is the idea of ghosts and spirits I think is like the easiest way for the human brain to comprehend like something beyond us. But I think that if – and I think it's very plausible something beyond us exists on a different plane. And I'm not saying God. I'm not saying ghosts. But I think that it's possible that there is something else farther than humans on a different plane.

And if I think that we can't even begin to imagine it, right? Like our brains don't even function that way. Yeah. And I think that it's totally possible, but we just, we won't know because it's like a snail trying to comprehend humanity. And at some point it's like, you know, what's the, what's the point in going after, you know, understanding that because there is no use in understanding something that's not understandable. I think that's the point. I think that that's why people think that don't because I think it's the unknown is so something like that is so fascinating and curiosity fueled. You know, you want answers. Like everyone wants,

the biggest questions in humanity are questions that are never actually able to be answered. Like, does God exist? What's the purpose of us being here? It's like, those are questions that like, no matter what you do, no matter what, you know, you're able to discover, you can never prove or fully understand you only

come to what you personally find the meaning of right you can you can say like oh i know the meaning of life that's the meaning of life to you the actual meaning of life no one will ever know does god exist it's not that no one will ever know it there is no meaning yeah and and i guess i well i think i honestly there's not a purpose there's not like a reason we weren't like, you know, you know, like you, you, you build a chair for a purpose. Yeah. We're not here for a purpose. Well, I think that it's, it's up to, uh, we create our own purpose.

I think, yeah, I think everyone creates their own purpose and meaning of life. And I honestly, I feel like, uh, to give life meaning like that for life to have a meaning, the meaning of life is whatever you make out of it. Yeah. You know? So the meaning of life, it varies person to person and there's no i don't think there's any right answer unless it's it's the way remember i keep bringing this up it's the way i look at people right every person are is their own fucking universe yeah unless we are actually in a simulation then there's a meaning to life

we were created in some kind of thing but we won't we'll never know that there's the possibility we're in a simulation but at the end of the day it's like you know there's so much real emotion and connection here it's like is it really worth it to try to go down that rabbit hole and get all paranoid when you will never like you're never like do you think you're really gonna be the you know are you gonna be jim carrey in the truman show are you to be the one that figures out that they're in some sort of TV show? And also, I think it's just that linked in of not narcissism, but because that's a negative. But there's you know how people always kind of they they have this. I am greater.

There's something greater than this. There's a purpose to this, you know, all that. I feel like that gets a lot of people stuck in thinking that you know they we're in the simulation and i gotta figure it out and all this stuff and it's i don't if we are in a situation if we are in a simulation it doesn't take away anything from what we are experiencing yeah you know what is, I understand there's the desire to have questions answered. Like that's just a desire that everyone has. You want questions answered.

I think that's more of a curiosity, right? Yeah. Yeah. But if you do discover that we're in a simulation, like if we were to somehow discover that it's like, honestly, what difference does it make?

Cause we're all helpless at the end of the day. We, we are all, it's not like we can escape the simulation. If we do live in a simulation, this it for us yeah and honestly in a weird way like i think in that sense ignorance is bliss because it's like i'd rather just keep living my life uh happy in the situation i am then have my eyes open to this reality where i'm going to live the rest of my life paranoid and nothing matters. For me, it's interesting because like, I'm not more paranoid by the fact I'm more just kind of

like, I'm never paranoid. Like, oh, oh my God, are we in a simulation? It's fun to just ponder. It's like, yeah, it's fun. The probability, like what is the probability we're in a simulation? If you look at like people like Elon Musk or others that talk about the subject, there's that whole argument, right? We've talked about it before where one day humans will get to the point where we create a virtual reality experience that is almost real life. Like you can't differentiate it really. Right. Yeah.

We will get to that point just because technology and all that other shit. but who's to say we're the first ones that have done that and this isn't just that but done to the nth degree what if we're a simulation inside of that that's what i'm saying it's like what's the argument is what is the possibility that that out of all of the universe and out of everything that we're the first like ones to do this uh kind of like we're the first simulation yeah yeah that's freaky man that's so crazy that we created the first simulation and that we're already not in a simulation of a simulation of a simulation you know all that other shit because we create simulations and that simulation will eventually become you know advanced enough to think it's real to think it's real because in our lifetime

its own simulation in our lifetime i think we'll be able to create computers that will be able to create a simulation where things inside of it can fully believe that they're real yeah and that's so crazy this it sounds like we're on acid right now it's just fun thing no it's great thinking and um i'm not i'm not like conspiracy theory no we're in a simulation i'm just like what if you know what what is what are the chances and're in a simulation. I think it's just like, what if, you know, what is, what are the chances? It's things like this. I think it's why people like things like psychedelics because psychedelics make you just think about different things that you normally wouldn't think about.

Like it doesn't make you like a fucking hippie. But I think that when they, when, when people say it expands your mind, it doesn't make you, it doesn't make you a better, i don't think like it makes you like a better person or a better thinker anything like that i think what it does is it opens you up to just kind of like think about even stupid shit like give credence to stuff and go down rabbit holes yeah like you kind of like you're i guess we've never talked about psychedelics on our podcast have we not i thought we've mentioned that we've done it before. No, we haven't. Oh, okay.

I think in a Let's Play we mentioned it briefly a long time ago. But like, I think what's cool about psychedelics is it's a short period of time where like your brain would normally compute in A to B to C, but then all of a sudden now you do, it's like A to N to X to b to c it's like i

guess that's a good way to describe it is you just think differently for a short period of time and you're able to understand and comprehend things that you normally i guess your your sober normal brain wouldn't be able to really like not in the highway where yeah you're not like it's not like oh where you're coming up with funny ideas i mean you are but it's it's more of so you're not like, it's not like, oh, it's not. Where you're coming up with funny ideas. I mean, you are, but it's more of so you're, like, for instance, when you're anxious, you can become tunnel vision. Yeah, and you can't think outside of it. If you're on a psychedelic, there was a moment, if you remember, I think one of my friends came to visit and I dropped acid. Yeah. And I came to several just kind of conclusions.

And afterwards afterwards you even commented you were like oh you said something that really clicked and you you even stated that like i kind of wasn't affected as much by uh who what i was having a problem with yeah because because that day that day i i hadn't i had never tried psychedelics at that point and ryan did it uh with a friend and I babysat. And I remember that day you were talking to me about a bunch of anxieties that I knew you had had in the past. And you were just like coming to these conclusions about them all on your own that I remember just hearing fully sober.

And I was like, dude, that makes so much sense. And then the thing that I like about it is whenever I do, for instance, acid, afterwards, the realizations that I have while I'm on acid, while I'm tripping, like the kind of points I'm able to come to, the conclusions that I'm able to come to stay with me afterwards. So when I come back to quote unquote reality, I'm like, oh, okay. So I kind of went through this journey in my head about this problem I'm having or just this basic concept of life I've never really thought about. And now moving forward, I have this new idea of this or this new grasp on a certain concept. I like a really basic concept that I normally wouldn't have ever even thought about if I hadn't tried a psychedelic. I've kind of stayed away from psychedelics recently just because uh i there's it's gonna sound weird i it's like i don't want to face

certain things oh yeah that's the thing about psychedelics is like because i know when i'm on when you're on a psychedelic you i've never had a bad trip i haven't either but i because what i because within a trip for me there are bad aspects sometimes like if you go into an environment it can get sometimes creepy and it can start to feel overwhelming and weird and just kind of like bring a weird sensation to you that you can't explain but it's like but the moment you go in my brain it's weird because the moment you go into another room you and i have explained it and when we talking about, it goes in kind of like the next season. Yeah.

Next, next episode. Season one feels different than season two or like one room feels differently than the other. Cause I remember going into a room with all the windows shut, then going outside and coming back where the windows were open in each room, whether it's the walls and everything felt different. It's like visiting a new webpage.

Yeah. And I'm not, I'm not trying to say everyone go do Aspen. No, no. Yeah. Like, I don't want say, everyone go do Asperger's now. No, no, yeah. Like, I don't want to say it. These are our experiences. We're not, in no way are we condoning

like the use of illegal drugs. We're talking about our experiences though. I've never done shrooms. I've done LSD. See, I'd say for me, I started, the first psychedelic I did was shrooms. Most people do.

And I think I would always go the shroom route. I've just did was shrooms. Most people do. And I think I would always go the shroom route. I've just never had shrooms. I'm too nervous about acid after doing a lot more research and stuff. I kind of don't want to have those, I don't want to chance those side effects because even you have had some side effects.

I don't know if you want to talk about it. No, I mean, you and I have, we've done acid together. We haven't in over over a year it's been about two years two years actually this month yeah um i think i think it was like may 28th because last i'm not gonna i'm not gonna you know tattletale on people that don't want to be talked about but we did it with certain people i think that was april two years ago erin it wasn't i'm just kidding no i'm not saying i don't think erin would ever do don't think we, no, we didn't do it with other people.

We had other people babysit, but I don't know if they want to be included. Yeah, yeah, no. I'm not, I'm not scared talking about stuff like acid because like there are drugs that are really, really bad for you, like heroin and cocaine and stuff. But I feel like stuff like acid is,

can definitely be bad for you. I think you need to, if you are going to ever do a psychedelic drug, do your research. Don't just have a friend that has it and be like, yeah, sure, I'll do it. Like do your, do your research. That's what I did the first two times. Yeah. But one friend I did trust. The first friend.

Okay. The reason I did psychedelics the first time it was right after Daniel passed away. And there was just a friend that offered shrooms and I was like, fuck it. Why not? And honestly, it's going to sound weird. It was very therapeutic. That's why I like so it's like therapy. I love psychedelics because it's they are therapeutic. Every time I've done it, I have never had a bad experience. And every time I've done it, I have been able to have some massive epiphany about something in my life where then when I come back to reality, I'm like, wow, I feel so much better. You know, those moments, right? And maybe it's only because I'm from a small town that I get this way, but you know, like

when you see mountains, like remember when you saw mountains for the first time, when you were a kid that like, kind of like butterfly feeling that are like when you see just something so fantastic, like maybe something you don't see all the time. You see a whale breach the ocean or you see these magnificent things. Imagine that feeling intensified and it continues to go on. It's this, I feel like psychedelics,

there's this constant undertone of wonder that I feel throughout the experience. Because I don't want to sound like a hippie, but in a way it does expand your mind and it expands your mind in the sense of, oh, well, it expands your mind. But it does in the sense of like people say that because in terms of like you are your own universe, you experience everything you experience is what you. It's from your perspective and everyone else has a different perspective. And you see things differently during that.

So in a way it does. That's why people say like, oh, your third eye is opened or something, because it's like all of a sudden you're seeing more about reality than you did. You see all these new colors and new feelings and new thoughts. And if anyone is going to try a psychedelic, test it like there's kits you can get online to test it because psychedelics can, believe it or not, really fuck up your brain. This isn't like go try them and then test it. This is if you are going to do it, if we can't, like if there's no, if no one's going to talk you out of it.

It's like teaching abstinence. At least test it. Yeah, because it's like teaching abstinence because, you know, parents and people, they try to teach abstinence, but the reality is they're never going to be able to stop young people from having sex. So that's why it's smarter to instead teach

how to have safe sex and be safe about it than tell people not to have sex. It's like, we can tell people don't go try psychedelic drugs, but at the same time, it's like, you can't stop people from doing that. So it's better if people are going to do it anyway, tell them how to do it safely. Do your research. Don't do it from a stranger. Don't do it. I honestly think babysitters are important. Yeah. First, the first few times times at least like you need someone to watch over you because your brain's in a different state and you need someone that's someone you can trust yeah we don't i don't know how to explain it do it in a comfortable environment you want to be most important thing is you want to be comfortable because otherwise you're gonna have a bad time and the friend can't use that trip to

their benefit of entertainment or else if it's your first trip that could give you a bad trip because they'll be fucking with you and if someone's fucking with you when you're on acid it can make there's i don't i don't i don't want to name a certain there's there's one name of someone who kept doing something and we specifically were like stop they were making faces at we were like seriously stop stop that's freaking me out like weird faces oh dude the last time which was two years ago i guess the last time i was uh on acid like the one of this i experienced the scariest and most kind of like neck it just gave me the shivers it's just i just got really close to a mirror and just stared at oh my god dude it's like uh you know in the simpsons movie when crusty's like like now we have hd cameras and you see the up close of his face and it's like disgusting

hyper realistic if you when you're on psychedelics you look in the mirror it's it it's terrifying whoa your brain does do things and also it helps with um that that it's on acid where basically my thought process was i just looked at myself and i made it so my periphery was kind of like blocked so i was just looking at myself and i was like this is how people see me when people are talking to me this is what they see and you know when you're just looking at a mirror that's very obvious but like it was it was kind of like a holy shit but then uh the the weird part was that my reflection started to do this i'll do it to matt yeah everything moves a little bit.

Like my head was starting to tilt down and I was starting to like give this evil smile. And I'm like looking at my reflection like, what? Like it was weird. Yeah, no. It messes with your brain. That's the thing is like they're not to be taken lightly. Like psychedelics literally fuck up your brain for a short period of time. So like don't mess around with them if you don't feel like you're not ready

because you need to be in a good mental place and you need to- Don't do it because of peer pressure. Know what you're doing. Don't, yeah. It's not the type of thing that- That's how you have a bad trip. Yeah.

And also, I think something that has been different for me ever since I tried psychedelics was what they call like ego death, where it's the first time in your life you fully uh understand like what you are in a way where like your ego fully it's the first time like you're able to like break free from your ego that's very humble of you yeah yeah no no it's a real thing that's been like study it's called ego death where it's like on psychedelics you're able

to break free from your ego and like actually be like, oh, shit. Like kind of. Well, that's well, part of that we were talking about was different. We were talking about problem solving. It's the a lot of the problems that you have. Your ego can get in the way, like whether it's kind of your your unwillingness to back down on on something that someone else wants to go forward with or whatever. Um, you, you break, you kind of, the ego death thing is true because you start to look at it very just kind of matter of fact when you're on psychedelics. Yeah. You're able to kind of

separate yourself from, uh, you, you go, you think about yourself differently, I guess the best way, but you just, you're different. Uh, I just are different. I think the biggest takeaways I've had from my experience with psychedelics is like, I think that it ultimately made me more of a nihilist, but in the sense of like I would describe it as like positive nihilism, not like, oh, nothing matters, but it's more like kind of

realize that like, I guess things don't really matter that much or they don't matter as much as my whole life. I thought they do, but that's okay. They matter to you, but they matter to me, but not in the grand scheme, but,

but they only like, there's no master plan. Yeah. And, and understanding that's made me realize like, I guess things don't really, of course things matter, but it's like,

I guess ultimately things don't really matter, but that has made me a happier person because I'm like, I can just kind of relax and not be so worried because things don't matter it's not like oh nothing matters like that type it's it's more like a positive form of nihilism yeah like I've I've never had like a depressive nihil like whenever not like I think in a nihilistic way it's never because of whether it's my depression or anxiety or yeah it's just kind of like a general layout of how I see things. It's just kind of like,

Oh, this is how things are. Things we were talking about in the beginning. And this is something important. That's a very, it's a very basic idea that I think a lot of people need to start thinking about. It's just that you,

you know, things just don't matter. Things don't just exist. And they all of a sudden matter because they're, cause God says that, uh, uh, you know, things just don't matter. Things don't just exist. And they all of a sudden matter because they're, because God says that you're this, this lovely person matters to you now. And he's like, okay. If you didn't exist,

nothing would exist because you would not exist to comprehend it. So it doesn't exist. Just, just remember that you are the one that gives credence to the positivity and negativity in your life. And if you are blocked off by some mental health issues, there are ways like therapy and certain medications that you can look into to smoke a lot of weed yeah because i don't i feel like nihilism because we say this nihilism as a as a as a view is good and everything and but it's not helpful right because there does need to be you things do need to matter for for society so i think nihilism can lead to apathy yeah and that's where it's and that's where then it's just like if that feels very depressed and i

think that there's a really cool form of nihilism that's based around like nihilism can be therapeutic because you can go okay this isn't as big as i'm making it out to be you know you can kind of talk yourself down using nihilism yeah yeah yeah but you can also kind of that nihilism can build and it can lead you to just just kind of i don't know usually there's a you can tell when someone's gone too far with it when they complain about kind of like every medium or every game sucks or every movie sucks now or like everything sucks now everything's bad everything i cannot stand people you know the world view which everything sucks now or like everything sucks now. Everything's bad. Everything. I cannot stand people that have the worldview.

Everything sucks. It's like I don't want to hear you. I'm the only one that notices everything's bad. I don't want to hear someone complain all the time. It's exhausting for people that complain all the time. Other people around you find it exhausting. That is a common thing. But it's exhausting when you're in a group because you and I have been in this.

And we're still in this to some degree, because you just have those friends and you get in those conversations, where it's addictive. It is addictive. When you talk negativity with people, like gossip, there is, I don't want to say there's a dopamine rush, but there is something going on, I feel like.

It makes you feel better and it brings you all together because you're all able to come together against something come together against something we're better than this thing yes you know and i think that everybody does that to a degree but i think it's important at some point in your life to realize the ratio of of that in your life and it does the more that you are in that the more that you will feel uh more general negativity in your life. And I think- Because nothing pleases you. Yeah, exactly. Because you kind of just grind yourself down. So I guess like the last thing I'll say about psychedelics

is I will reiterate, we are not pushing for people to use them. We're not condoning them. We're just saying- Explaining our experiences. And if you are going to use them- If you're going to be safe, do a lot of research.

Make sure like if you're on medications, that's not going to fuck with anything. Make sure you get things tested. Just be safe. Or the safe thing is, if you're getting anxious, you're like, what if my medication... Then just don't do it. Don't go through

with it. You have your whole life to do stuff. Don't rush things. Don't worry about things. Only do something that you feel comfortable with. If you're too nervous, don't do it. Don't force yourself worry about things and only do something that you feel comfortable with if you're too nervous don't do it don't force yourself just just like if you're you're locked in nervous about trying weed for the first time like i remember the first time i i god i i've i can't remember if i talked about it on the podcast but uh daniel created the best first weed experience for me and i'm so glad i had that experience because basically he just like called

one of his friends up and his dad was okay with smoking. He kind of lived the, this guy kind of lived out in the woods almost. And they set up a bonfire and we just all just smoked weed around this bonfire, looking up at the night sky. And then all of a sudden, one of my friends took me to McDonald's and we brought it back and we were eating McDonald's around a bonfire, looking up at the stars high. It was a great first experience. And I could not imagine that experience if like I was nervous at a party alone and someone was like, here, try this.

And I got high, you know what I mean? I'd freak out. It's important that you are in it. The most important thing, and you can read this online for yourself. It's all environment. You have a comfortable environment. You have a comfortable environment

and you feel comfortable. Otherwise, because things like psychedelics take out your feeling and then uh amplify it so if you're not feeling comfortable it's gonna make it worse you know if you're feeling really scared and sad it's gonna make it even worse uh so but the thing don't play with it's weird because on when you are sad, you do become more sad. But at least when I was on psychedelics, there's this undertone of beauty with the sadness because you're realizing like certain things

of why you're sad. And also you do, your dopamine levels are increased because it is a drug. You know, it's like you actually, serotonin stuff is elevated. So you do feel good, but so yeah, 100%,

but it's just, um, just be careful if you are going to, if you're nervous about doing it, maybe now's not the right time or there is no good time for you and you should just stay away from it. Um, I think that there are negative side effects. Yes,

there are. Oh, and I'll give examples. I personally, uh, I've, I I personally, I've done acid my fair share. And I do to this day have some degrees of visual impairment that I don't think will ever go away. Like film grain? Like film grain. When I look up at the sky, I see kind of like film grain.

like film grain when i look up at the sky i see kind of like film grain and i i know other people in the youtube sphere that have done acid and have the same thing uh where certain textures i look at kind of feel like they might start to move or i might see colors sometimes that aren't really there and it makes me feel like i'm going crazy but then i i've done research and i've talked to my psychiatrist about it it's it is a you do run the risk of when you do psychedelics of permanently leaving an impact on your brain that after the fact uh will remain such as certain visual effects uh and stuff like that so it's not something to take lightly like you think about it is an illegal substance it's illegal first of all i think that i think that i am all in favor of pushing towards decriminalization of psychedelics because I think for therapeutic purposes. So is Joe Rogan.

Yeah. Look at me and Joe Rogan are one of the same. Joe Rogan. There's one thing that I am honestly, I'm too scared to do DMT. I don't know about DMT. I hear people talking about DMT and things they see like there's this man in a hat that stands in the corner of the room and just. 10 feet tall. Yeah.

And I'm like, what? I don't know if I want that. I don't want that. I'll go up into the corner of the room and just 10 feet tall. Yeah. And I'm like, what? I don't know if I want that. I don't want that. I'll go up into the sky and I meet God. I'm like, no, I don't want to like,

it sounds cool. But at the same time, it's like, that's scary. Uh, yeah. What if, what if I see like a,

like this monster starting to crawl on the walls and I'm like, like, I feel like I got to run away, but people always are explaining. It's not like that. It's not because you're not, cause you're thinking with a sober mind. That's the thing thing like we're talking about earlier with comprehending higher beings we can't think about what being on dmt is like because when you were on something like dmt dmt you were

not thinking in the same state you are now so we can think all we want of what it would be like but it would when you do it it's not going down to alcohol right if you have someone who's never had a drink in their life they can they can look at people that are drunk and they can kind of guess what it's like but it's a different thing you'll know unless you feel and actually be impaired by that by that drug um i feel like this whole podcast has been just psychedelics it's a big part it It got hippie, some hippie dippy bullshit. But yeah, I mean, I'm personally for pushing

the decriminalization and legalization of psychedelics in moderation, I think. Yeah, for me, it's like, I want to say that I'm for it.

I just want to do more. I haven't done enough personal research into like everything that I've just done it because, you know, I think,

I think like stuff like shrooms and stuff in terms of a therapeutic use and even stuff like MDMA is there's studies that like when used in a therapeutic process can be very successful when you look at well Adderall

yeah is legitimately it's it's like it is legitimately it's like it's not heroin, it's not cocaine, it's not meth but if it wasn't Adderall it would be one of those things if it was on the streets as something

it would be that it would be a hard drug that people were doing yeah exactly but people because it's so useful it's allowed to be legal, you know, and people make a lot of money off of it, which is the big reason I think it's legal. Yeah. Because a lot of places Adderall is illegal, but you know, Adderall kind of makes people into like super humans depending on your body.

Well, it's illegal. And as you, you told me this, it's illegal in like pro sports league, of course. You can't use it in athletic competitions. Because it's like a steroid for your brain and focus. Yeah. Yeah. league of course you can't use it in athletic because it's like a steroid for your brain and focus yeah yeah and it's very addictive and it's it's not good for your body at all but it's legal because you know it makes people adhd adhd and also uh money adderall makes so much money for corporate like big pharmaceuticals what would what would it be like for someone who has severe OCD to take Adderall?

I don't think it would. I don't think it would. Really? Like would it have, would it make them focus on their tics more? It could, I guess. I don't know.

That's something that you, like I can't answer. That's just a fun question I posed. I just was throwing it out there for you. I have to ask a psychiatrist that one.

Or you could just pretend to be a psychiatrist. Well, Ryan, I think it might make people might make you focus a lot harder on your obsessions and then you might have a freak out. That's actually why people with severe anxiety and OCD things, stimulants like caffeine are

recommended to like you to stay away from because that stuff intensifies your feelings, you know, like are recommended to like you're to stay away from because that stuff intensifies your um feelings you know like caffeine uh when i had really bad anxiety back in high school if i drank caffeine it would be worse because i'd get a lot more anxious because it's like everything's heightened yeah you know including your anxiety but oh guess what what i'm ending the podcast.

Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your jobs projects done well. I absolutely love this because you know if you own a home it can be really hard to maintain. It's hard to find people that can help you for a big project or a small. Well whether it's an everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality it can be hard just to know where to start. But now, all you need to do is answer that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need. Angie has over 20 years of home service experience, and they've combined it with new tools to simplify the whole process. Bring them your project online or with the Angie app, answer a few questions, and Angie can handle the rest from start to finish. Or help you compare quotes from multiple pros and connect instantly.

Which means you can take care of just about any home project in just a few taps. Because when it comes to getting the most out of your home, you can do this when you Angie that. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-G-I dot com.