supermegashow - EP 2 - The Science of Memes (w/ FrankJavCee)

Episode Date: February 24, 2017

In this episode of SuperMegaCast, we're joined by aesthetic meme man FrankJavCee who schools us on the science and history of memes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoice...s

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Damn, that's a good Capri Sun. I've had better. Okay, well, thanks guys. Welcome to the fucking podcast. This is episode two. We got Matt Watson. That's me. We got me, Ryan McGee, and a special guest.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Hello everyone, my name is Frank Javsi, and in today's special podcast, we are going to be talking about things. First thing I want to talk about is memes. So, have you guys... What a segue, Frank. Have you find gents? What a fucking segue that was any good memes recently dude frank the one reason we wanted to have you on this podcast was to talk about memes and like we're not even not even a minute in and it's just jumping straight into the memes because
Starting point is 00:01:36 we've got to get to the meat of the subject and well okay i came i came to pick you up frank yeah uh to bring you over to our luscious new apartment. Which is beautiful, by the way. Yeah, thank you very much. And you were talking about memetics? Yeah, memetics is the actual term for memes that we shorten up. Wait, really? Yeah. The actual study of memes is called memetics.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Wait, there's an actual study? Yeah, it's an actual scientific term that people found in the last 50 years. They're like, hey, memetics, that's a cool, interesting cultural trait movement sort movement sort of stuff it's basically like units of culture and that is what a meme is and then on the internet people were like bringing it up like oh so pictures with like words on it are memes it's like no it's like things that certain traits that internet characteristics have that people replicate are memes so memes are basically like weird contagious viruses that exist in people's subconscious that like grow and fester over periods of time. So it's like, yeah. You're explaining this in the most just beautiful, delicate way possible.
Starting point is 00:02:33 We have the fucking meme professor himself. Yeah. Dank Jav Memes. Dank Jav Memes is my professional name. Look that up on Google. You'll get all my LinkedIn information. Do you have a LinkedIn? No.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Actually, I did. I information do you have a linkedin no i think i actually have a link i had a linkedin and i um i added like a bunch of music industry people onto it and it's kind of useless any of them did any of them add you back no did you add like what did you add like kanye west no it wasn't like it was like a and r's or people that looked for music but like fuck that i ain't about that life anymore. I'm all about the meme life. You've thrown away your music career for internet memes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Garfield. Lasagna. Yeah, lasagna. I noticed that sort of shit. Little things like that. They permeate through culture and then people bring them back. When we did the Simpsons video, we were on the edge of evolving a meme, which is now the Simpsons. They're everywhere now. Everyone wants to meme the Simpsons uh video we're on the edge of of um evolving a meme which is now the simpsons like they're everywhere now everyone wants to mean the simpsons like the fucking marge crumping became a
Starting point is 00:03:30 huge meme for like a week but we are on the verge of there's like it's called like memetic genesis or something where it's like right before a meme evolves like you have to mutate it so that it evolves in a way that people will be easily to like spread it because it's all organic like it's like a virus. That's why I look at Vaporwave like an organic virus that just infects people. Once they got the idea of it and I mutated the Vaporwave meme, people were like, oh, it's more accessible to the mainstream. And now everyone is putting Roman busts and purple lights everywhere. Frank, dude, how do you know so much shit about memes?
Starting point is 00:04:02 He looked it up on the internet, dude. He's a fucking professor now. Yeah, fucking Wikipedia. You know what I hate about college? Like when they'd be like, oh, don't cite fucking Wikipedia. It's like fucking Wikipedia is everything. I hated that.
Starting point is 00:04:14 They're like, yeah, Wikipedia is not a credible source. Everyone gets their information off Wikipedia. Just because anyone can edit it. Well, it's not that true anymore. It's not like anyone can just go fucking change a page because there's mods that like yeah keep it someone made a wikipedia page for me back in 2012 and within the first minute they deleted it because i wasn't significant enough really yeah and i screenshotted it so like if i ever get a wikipedia page but yeah it said like insignificant i was like holy shit we're fucking slapped to the face i know ouch i
Starting point is 00:04:43 need to prove them wrong yeah that's what I'm trying to. If I ever get a Wikipedia, like, would you guys ever want a Wikipedia page? Yeah, of course. I feel like your best shot right now at getting a Wikipedia page is, like, getting an entry in the official memes, like, definition, like, Wikipedia page. That'd be really nice. Like, yeah, like, basically there'd be a little subsection of the page about memes, about, like, Professor Contreras. And, like, his contribution to the study of memes and the field of meme science. There's actually, um, fucking people that are meme historians, and they get paid to, like, uh...
Starting point is 00:05:17 What are you talking... No! Yeah, they do. I've seen a couple, and it's like... I'm gonna look up right now, meme historians. You keep talking, I'm gonna look it up right now. There's actually an article about this one chick she has like blue hair and like the female fedora glasses and she's like hi i'm a meme historian and like so can can just anything be a job title these days well yeah what are we doing okay okay perfect point proven right there that's a good one i looked up meme historian and the fucking that aliens guy came up that that's that's what's popular right now but i know there are people out there who
Starting point is 00:05:48 like like the whole like uh meme like i can't has cheeseburger thing like they they started the whole like oh let's start historically looking at memes and see where they evolve oh yeah know your meme yeah know your meme so that's like another one i like i like them on facebook and i always see like like basically just like news articles about like trending memes popping up. Let's talk about old memes because, you know, we've all been on the internet for a while. And basically, like thinking back to some old ass memes, like one that I remember a lot was the old Legend of Zelda game for the CD-i. Oh, yeah, all the fucking YouTube hoops that exist. I love that shit.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I wonder what's for dinner i love that shit i wonder what's for dinner all that shit remember that yeah ryan did you know do you know what we're talking about no did you ever do the youtube poop memes like those are cute i don't i don't know they're i know what youtube poops are i just i i'm not into i don't have i'm lost like it started off with that like people were just like oh taking all old footage of like soup like nintendo's like yeah cartoons and then they were editing it in, like, certain ways. Like, Mama Luigi. I hope she made lots of spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Like that shit? Yeah. But, like, the thing is, like, it became a meme in a way where, like, it affected a bunch of people where they're like, I want to make art out of it. I don't know why. And then, like, a shit ton of people start, like, coming together to create art over, like, just random obscure, random obscure just like images and videos and stuff and that's where the meme starts it affects everyone's subconscious where it makes them want
Starting point is 00:07:08 to create art of that art and it's like it grows from there so they're becoming a legitimate thing but they're stuck with the name memes yeah like memes well memes done it's short for memetics which is like memes is short for memetics yeah like. Like, memetic? No. Yeah, it is. Memes came first before memetics. No, memetics came first before memes. Frank knows what he's talking about. Yeah, it was done by Richard Dawkins, who's like this, like... What? The atheist?
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah, he invented memetics in, like, the 70s. What? No, okay. What? You're telling me Richard Dawkins, like, just basically coined the term meme? Yeah. What? Like, back in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Like, before anything was even a thing. It was, like, more of a cultural thing. Like, fucking wearing bell-bottom pants and having an afro was considered a meme because people were just, like... Oh, my God. Is he right? Is he right? Please.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Okay, here we go. Memetics is the theory of mental content based on an analogy... Sorry. I can't read. I'm stupid. I'm stupid. With Darwinian evolution originating from the popularization of richard dawkins 1976 book the selfish gene uh the meme yep yeah he's right wow to you
Starting point is 00:08:12 damn i i never what i never would have expected richard dawkins to have like yeah 99 of the internet doesn't understand. Like, you have just opened my eyes to the whole world of, like, the sub-level, just everything within the meme. There's so much within it. I never knew. A meme is evolution. To meme is to evolve. Like, I think it's really strange.
Starting point is 00:08:39 To meme is to evolve? Yeah, because, like... There's a quote. Yeah, quote me on that, and then there'll be a picture of my face with, like, fucking... To meme is to evolve yeah because like there's a quote yeah quote me on that and then there'll be a picture of my face with like fucking to me is to evolve create like your fucking like vine compilations with that quote with sad music to me is to evolve what am i gonna put with vine compilation and sad because vines vines memes thrive on vine yeah vines are another form of that whole like genetic stuff Yeah, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Can I have one? These nuts. Sometimes when I hang out with people, they just quote memes, and it's like, what the fuck's going on with society? That's honestly too. It's cool. I love you guys. You mad, bro? Am I?
Starting point is 00:09:16 It's a meme. Oh, I didn't know that. You mad, bro? Yeah, like, bad luck, Brian. Dude, rare Pepes. What the fuck is that? Frank, what do you mean you don't know what Pepe is? of the rare, rare Pepe's. What the fuck is that? Frank, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:09:26 You don't, you don't know what Pepe is? No, I fucking love Pepe. Oh, for a second. I was like, wait,
Starting point is 00:09:31 you mean the, the meme man himself? White? Yeah. It's called acting. Ow. Dude, Frank,
Starting point is 00:09:38 you're a fucking good actor, man. Thanks. I actually learned how to act from a transgendered black woman who used to do heroin and prostitute herself. She actually, she, she, she, she'd always call me an angel she'd be like don't let him she'd be like don't don't be afraid to soar my angel and i was like cool but she ended up hating me because i would describe this acting class it was really weird it was like a bunch of like fucking like middle class white
Starting point is 00:09:59 kids like wanting to be like disney channel stars in college and i just showed up and i was like going through this weird phase where i'd wear like like, trench coats and, like, fucking beanies, and just, like, really disgusting. So you're not getting hired. You go to a place that works with, like, Disney kid type people. No, it was in college. It was in college, yeah. I went to Cal State Long Beach, which is a school in Long Beach
Starting point is 00:10:19 where I picked up my marijuana addiction. There we go. And I lived in Snoop Dogg's old house once. That was really cool. What? No, I thought it was. Because, like, my friends, when they move into their apartment, someone, like, painted on the wall, Snoop Dogg lived here.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And we were like, what the fuck? See, Frank, that's smart. Because now people are only going to remember, hmm, Frank, Snoop Dogg's house. He used to live in that. And that's the only thing they're going to remember. They're not going to remember that you quickly went, no, I'm just kidding. It's just that one little moment. Although I was in the same neighborhood Sublime was from.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And that was really interesting. Sublime with Rome? Is that something to be proud of? I don't know. Because that neighborhood was shitty. It was so scary. Like, I never went outside. Dude, Sublime has, like, two good songs.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And the rest are just absolute shit. Yeah. I fucking hate. Well, I hate their new stuff. But their old stuff was pretty good. Like, when I get onto my scoff phase. Fucking take them off the burner real quick. What did they do to you?
Starting point is 00:11:09 3.11? What about 3.11? What did Sublime do to you? It's a long story. It's just a bad band. It's a long story. Honestly, me and Sublime have a history together. There's always a Sublime... I choked on my fucking Capri Sun.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm so sorry. I was laughing and I choked on it. No, it's because... Let's's just say during very crucial sad moments in my life a sublime song was somehow playing on the radio at the right time sometimes when I upload videos people be like holy shit I was doing that just thing right now and then you made a video
Starting point is 00:11:38 about it I'm like yeah it happens like my Simpsons wave like when I made Simpsons wave people were like that was like a thing that was about to blow up and then I made it and now there's more Simpsons wave like when I made Simpsons wave people were like that was like a thing that was about to blow up and then I made it and now there's more Simpsons wave
Starting point is 00:11:48 out in the world dude Simpsons wave it's blowing up and I think that you definitely you know gave that genre a little kickstart yeah
Starting point is 00:11:55 on what you were saying a minute ago something weird is I've always had this thing and my dad does too where it's like I'll think of something
Starting point is 00:12:03 like an episode of a TV show like within the same day I'll see it on TV and it's like i've always done that and it's so fucking weird it's um that's called synchronicity that's a carl jung invention he uh he studied with uh freud who basically uh set up modern day psychology but carl jung he was into synchronicities which was like coincidences or stuff like that and i really fucked heavy with that for a while in my music i could be like oh we're like here's a synchronicity between you and i our birthdays are really close to each other and we both had uh uh projects named kids with something because i had kids without instruments and he had kids with problems
Starting point is 00:12:38 and i thought that was a synchronous moment frank you're you're you're sending bullets through my universe right now you're blowing it to pieces that's what happens like i'm really into quantum physics and stuff like if you read up on quantum physics it says like there are infinite number of possible universes and realities that exist and we all exist in like little slivers of just time where we all exist at one point together and we're making a podcast in this point of our existence stop you're scaring me stop i'm sorry you're breaking my brain i'll talk more about, let's see. Get back to the memes, Frank. Yeah, well, let's see.
Starting point is 00:13:08 What's my favorite meme? You know what I hate? I fucking hate long boy memes. It's like, what is that? What's a long boy meme, Frank? Yeah, it's just like someone uploaded a cylinder and they're like, he's long. And people are like, oh, great meme. It's like stupid shit like that.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You know what i love just fuck long boy memes frank yeah josh quote me on that a lot of quotables in here i hope so from the meme master himself dude you know what i love when like i've seen this before like the people i went to high school with and stuff on their facebook they were like when they try to turn themselves into a meme oh my god where they'll take like a funny like selfie of themselves and put a caption on it that's just like really bad and they'll be like go ahead guys make your own okay speaking of stalking people from high school actually one of the there's a playboy playmate who used to go to my high school and i only ever seen her and talked to her once but she was cool she
Starting point is 00:14:00 was dating hugh hefner's uh son yeah and watson yeah ryan no but for real she was dating Hugh Hefner's son. Yeah, Ann Watson. Ryan? No, but for real, she was dating Hugh Hefner's son, but they broke up because he beat her. And it was like a huge public thing and I was like, wow, she's the most famous person
Starting point is 00:14:13 from my high school. So, maybe... What an uncomfortable thing to laugh at. Yeah, well... He abused her. Yes! That's funny.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Speaking of fucking... What's the word? Spousal abuse, I was watching a Bobby Brown music video this morning, and he beat up Whitney Houston. I don't know if they're together, but the music was good. What do you mean you don't know if they're together? Whitney Houston's dead.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, so they're obviously not together. They're obviously not together. Does this podcast have a name? Super Megacast. Super Megacast? Yeah. Oh, nice. I can dig that. Yeah, dude. I like the words super and mega because they're both the same thing but not yeah they're pretty much like when we were naming it it was originally called sellout club yeah because we were like because
Starting point is 00:14:55 we thought that people were going to call us sellouts because we had a sketch comedy channel well yeah we have a and i was a part of a like we were both a part of another sketch comedy channel syndigo and then uh after that kids with problems so it a – we were both a part of another sketch comedy channel, Syndigo, and then after that, Kids With Problems. So it's like we were both known for sketch comedy, and all of a sudden going into gaming, we were kind of afraid people would just call us out. So we kind of wanted to get ahead of them just doing that. And so we're like, okay, why not? Sellout Club.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And then we just thought on it for a while. And it sounded negative. Yeah, it just sounded negative. So we're like, wait, what's a good name? And then then we were like let's call it super mega happy playtime or something it was it was it was super mega super mega yeah super mega playtime yeah and then and then from there we're like well that's too long we need something catchier and shorter and something people can remember and it's like what about super mega it's just two words that mean the same thing i like very catchy so yeah it's it's just two words that mean the same thing. I like it. Very catchy. Yeah, it's catchy.
Starting point is 00:15:45 It reminds me of Super Nintendo and the Mega... What was it? No, that was the Master System for Sega. The Super Mega Nintendo? Yeah, Super Mega Nintendo. The console that barely anyone knows about. Yeah, it's the one that used CDs and had its own drink dispenser. I want one of those.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Have you seen those? What? Yeah, there's a soda machine where you can turn anything into soda. I kind of want one. Oh, yeah, the soda stream or something like that. I'd be down for making everything soda. So pretty much it just puts carbonated water into... No, what it does is it's a little thing that you put, like, a drink in and it carbonates it.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So you can put, like, juice in and it carbonates it or water. I had this really weird phase where I wanted to blend a bunch of foods together and make my own smoothie shop. But it would be like meat and stuff. Like spaghetti. I don't think people would buy that. Put some carbonated in there. Make spaghetti soda. Sell it to people.
Starting point is 00:16:34 So you'd make a Jamba Juice but that only serves ground up spaghetti and meatballs. Yeah. Or like cheeseburger. Stop. Frank. I appreciate your ingenuity yeah and and and your creativity but i don't think that that idea would would uh take off the ground whoa wait wait oh sorry i was i was burping my dad uh met a homeless man in a tent and no one didn't
Starting point is 00:17:14 it'll never end it'll never end my my dad met this homeless man in a tent in the mountains of north carolina nice and he and he made he makes like moonshine in the backwoods and he gave my dad some and i and i had some and it tasted like gasoline oh shit probably it might have just been gasoline, and this homeless man gave my dad gasoline, and my dad was just like... He was like, what's with gasoline? Sure. There's a cold case opening right now,
Starting point is 00:17:32 and they're coming for you, Matt. Really? Underage drinking. No. Thanks for slurping your goddamn Capri Sun into the fucking light. I can do it again. Nice. I love those sounds.
Starting point is 00:17:41 They give me asthma tingles. I've been doing some asthma shit recently. I did asthma narrative. Wait, wait. ASMR? Do you legitimately call it asthma? Yeah, I just call it asthma. It's easier. ASMR takes too long. Asthma is the pop name. It's easier. Asthma. Okay. I could see it. Yeah. I mean, I want to do more asthma stuff
Starting point is 00:17:57 but I'm not sure if it's kind of weird. Because I don't get tingles. It is weird. I've never watched an asthma video and I was like, oh yeah. I watch them and I'm like, eh. I have ASMR and I get tingles it is weird i've never watched an asthma video no oh yeah i'm gonna watch them and i'm like yeah i i i have asmr and i get i get tingles and it's it's fucking awesome maybe it's because you're more superior to me in the evolutionary uh scale of life i don't i don't know how that would make me more superior like what what evolutionary benefit does asmr have probably something like if there's predators coming you're like oh my my spidey senses are tingling and you're like wait a second i'm i'm like what was that thought asmr with what predators what like predators like a predator versus alien they're snake oh i thought you meant like the
Starting point is 00:18:36 predators for like from predator versus alien i'm just i'm just imagining like being out in the woods is like a caveman and then and then there's like a tiger and he's like hey guys today i'm gonna be stalking some prey and then he gets his tingles and he's like oh i gotta get out of here oh that's that's what evolution's all about memes dude wait bringing it back full circle yeah because memes is memes is everything memes is everything there's another great quote from frank jobs memes is everything you know it another great quote from Frank Jost. Memes is everything. You know, it's funny. I actually read this book on how to get people, like, invested in art. It's called Riveted, the Art of Seduction or some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:19:13 That sounds like just a creepy pickup book. Yeah, actually, it's not seduction. The art of being enthralling. And one thing is to make, like, paradoxical statements. Like, saying less is more is paradoxical. So, like, when people are like, what? How could how could less mean more like those are the quotes that stand out like anything you could put on a fridge is somehow like relatable in like this weird like artsy way like if i have like a stick you know in the fridge that says butter milk eggs like things i need to buy i mean
Starting point is 00:19:39 that's the list but i'm talking about like things to get people invested into your art. A shopping list, Matt. One time my friend, he had, what's it called? He had, what's the thing? AIDS? No, one of the other ones. He had, what the fuck is it called where you jumble up letters? Dyslexia? Yeah, he was dyslexic. Frank, you're
Starting point is 00:20:00 sitting here telling us about all this super crazy smart science stuff, and then you're like, what's that thing where you mix up letters? Well, I don't fucking know. Well, he was dyslexic, and I remember one time. Dyslexic? He mixes up his dice?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah. He wrote on my refrigerator, cup of noobles. And I was like, what the fuck? Cup of noobles. Turns out it was some homeless guy that started just crashing. At your place. He technically was. You're just like, just put whatever you want up on the fridge. Cup of noobles.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Cup of noobles. It was all spelled all wrong. It was all just lopsided. No, but for reals. He lives in a tent? I don't know. Inside? It's the same guy who gave my dad the moonshine.
Starting point is 00:20:45 You never know. It could the same guy who gave my dad the moonshine. You never know. It could be. He exists everywhere. Don't you guys know a homeless guy that's cool? Yeah, let's talk about him, Ryan. Let's talk about Dirk. Dirk, my man, Dirk.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I want to meet Dirk one day. Dude, we'll take you out to meet Dirk. Usually chilling out at the Silver Lake McDonald's. Yeah, so Dirk, so let me give some background so dirk is um a homeless man that ryan and i have been encountering since uh like mid-august 2015 so um the silver lake area of los angeles uh has a lot of homeless people and a lot of hipsters most of the los angeles area has homeless people yeah that's true all of Los Angeles, there's no homeless people. There's just one. Los Angeles is just one big...
Starting point is 00:21:27 Another quote from Frank, guys. We're on a roll today. Thanks! That's all I do is speak quotes. So basically, Dirk is this guy that... Not his real name, actually. No, but it's just the name we gave him. We don't know his real name.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I was in the drive-thru at McDonald's, and basically, he used to sit outside McDonald's. Now, he's a very scary-looking man. He looks like... Does he have those eyes? Because you can tell someone's crazy by their eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He definitely has those eyes, and he has a very afraid look about him.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah. And I had my window down, and I looked over, and he's sitting on the sidewalk, and he looked at me and just went... And just this creepy sound and i just drove off so then like from then on i kept seeing him everywhere around silver lake just like walking down the sidewalk and stuff and and and i mean then ryan and i started seeing him we started encountering him you have any stories about him ryan uh no well just like weird instances like how we always get updates on his life like one time it was raining and he used like one of those like sheet covers to cover yeah
Starting point is 00:22:31 like of course the most recent one he got he got one of the freshest cuts i've ever seen dirk got a fucking bomb ass haircut like we just looked one day we didn't even recognize him we saw him sitting on the side of the road he was sitting on the side of the road and he just had this fucking balling like fade and shit he did it was a fade dude but it was like it was a really good fade and and what i'm wondering but like like nothing against him i like i feel bad for him but like i'm wondering if like all this time he's been collecting change it hasn't been for food or cigarettes or alcohol it's just been for that haircut just he he just looks good though yeah with that haircut he's tan as fuck too well that's what happens it's that it's like it's all the rage but like if you go to santa monica you'll notice like not not even homeless people but like
Starting point is 00:23:17 if you go down santa monica you'll see a lot of just kind of like people that are bronze as fuck yeah yeah that's a good way to describe him he's bronze like he's like a beautiful bronze statue made out of pennies and it's funny like you saw my encounter you saw my encounter a homeless person in los angeles so just like a crazy schizophrenic person in la like i'm always thinking like what if they're like like like a genie in disguise testing me or some sort of magical entity and it's like, what if I do what they tell me to do, maybe they'll give me a wish. Suck this dick, boy. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Will you touch my penis? Stick that pinky up my tooth hole. Dude, Frank, if a homeless person asked you to do that and you genuinely thought they were a genie. Thinking he's a genie.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Would you do it? I don't know. It depends on my violence. He wants his fucking three wishes, dudeie. Thinking he's a genie. Would you do it? I don't know. It depends on my vibe. He wants his fucking three wishes, dude. Of course he's going to do it. I would wish for so many cool things. What would you guys wish for? If you met a genie,
Starting point is 00:24:13 what would your three wishes be? Oh, Jesus. You'd wish for Jesus? That's not one of them. Ryan, he's already here in your life. He's everywhere. Universal consciousness. I don't think I can come up with a solid three.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I don't have the opportunity of wishes. Okay, then just one wish. You get one wish. How about we get a bunch of wishes. What would one of the wishes be? Well, yeah. Because it's hard getting one because then I just feel, okay. Matt, you started off.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Oh, dude, I don't even know. Yeah, it's so hard, right? What would you wish for, Frank? Come back to me. Well, honestly, i have two options either like a million tons of gold in which i can sell to people wait wait wait if you had a million tons of gold the value of gold would go so low down yeah that's the paradoxical stuff of wishes or to be united consciousness with the entire universe and become my own living god i think oh wow i think i came up with mine mine would be a lifetime of financial stability not necessarily rich but
Starting point is 00:25:13 basically just um comfortable yeah just comfortable because therefore i could go after the things i want to like venture off and do the things that i want to like short films you and i have been talking we would want we would like to do short films put times towards that and like other just artistic projects that we want to do besides stuff with kids with problems and Super Mega. I just feel like if I was financially stable 100% for the rest of my life and I knew that, then I wouldn't be afraid of trying certain things, filming certain things, going out and doing certain things just because I knew that I would have that back layer to fall back on if that failed or something um i'm not saying that that's stopping me now from doing that stuff it
Starting point is 00:25:51 just makes it a little more difficult to uh kind of see those come into fruition yeah yeah that's why i invest in gold that's why i would get a bunch of gold i i want to point i want to point this out so like frank's two wishes it went went from, like, the most childish wish, like, I wish I had a million pounds of gold, to the most, like, deep, like, I wish I could be, like, my own god of consciousness. And then Ryan's was this very, just, like, heartful, just, like, real wish. And now I'm sitting here still trying to decide what mine would be.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And the balance of both opposites. There's a lot of pressure on you right now, Matt. I wish that I... You wish for the cure for cancer, right? Well, if I... Wait, are you saying that you wouldn't wish? No, I want that absolutely, but... But that's not going to be your wish.
Starting point is 00:26:40 No, you just... You're not going to waste your wish. Ryan, you're putting me in a very awkward position here. Because I wanted to have a good wish. No, not that it's not going to be your wish. No, you just... You're not going to waste your wish. Ryan, you're putting me in a very awkward position here. Because I wanted to have a good wish. No, not that it's not a good wish. Not that it's not a good wish. What I'm saying is that, like, you're putting me in this... I need some Capri Sun.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Hold on. You contemplate that. You sip on that while you think about that. Sip on it real good, dude. Dude, I know my wish. I know my wish. Unlimited Capri Sun. No, I would...
Starting point is 00:27:03 I would... So first, I would have... Two of my bottom ribs would have to be, like, gone. And then basically, I would turn my dick into a flute. And when I blew into it, the noise would come out of my asshole. And I could just, like, maneuver the balls to make, like, change the pitch. So I could just blow into my dick like a flute. And it would be really...
Starting point is 00:27:21 And I'd be able to sell out shows around the world. Because you know people would want to fucking see that. People would pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars for tickets to see a dude go on stage, drop his pants, and then put his mouth around his own cock and fiddle with his balls and play beautiful music out of his ass.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Wow. That sounds a lot like a Let's Play. So anyway... That sounds a lot like a let's play. So anyway. Yes, yes, yes, Frank. Thanks, thanks, thanks. That's the best thing you've said all night.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Holy shit. I still meme memes is life. Memes is life. Yeah. Because technically I should say memes are life. But because I said it it resonates with people dude it's it's funny it's like it's like bad grammar like sarcasm yeah i do that all the time but people like okay pose law you guys need to know what pose law me dude enlighten us yeah pose laws general pose chicken yeah if you don't what the fuck is that so's so's general so so how do you fucking i don't know how you fuck is the? So's. So's?
Starting point is 00:28:25 General So's. Sal So. How do you fucking... I don't know how you say General Sal's chicken. I've always said General Sal's, but I'm also from the South, so maybe they say it fucked up. You guys live in a totally different kingdom. So. I think it's So. So.
Starting point is 00:28:38 General So's chicken. Well, anyways. Poe's Law states, without clear author's intent, any satire will be seen as genuine. So, like, if you're like, I'm going to make will be seen as genuine so like if you're like i'm gonna make fun of these people ironically if you don't tell anyone straight up i'm making fun of these people people are gonna think you're being genuine it's like well i see a lot of that i feel like that's just people who don't get the joke who just just can't perceive it it's like one time i saw someone make like a really fine like you know um what's it called like computer
Starting point is 00:29:02 text art where like they use just the font to make art. Yeah. I saw someone make like Peter Griffin smoking a joint and on the joint it said dubstep. And I was like, is this authentic? Does someone spend hours of their time making this ironically or is this like a genuine thing? And most of the time I think it's just good being genuine. Holy shit. We just moved into this new apartment and our walls are empty and we need art. I would love to have that on our wall
Starting point is 00:29:26 I can paint on your wall I'm gonna use my blood and my semen And I will paint you something beautiful It'll just be a white, red painting Frank Of me, the nude Frank Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:35 Don't do that Hi Don't do that Please don't do that Please That's a good way for us to lose our security deposit Wait Having your fucking cum and blood smeared on our wall and i can picture them coming
Starting point is 00:29:46 in we're just like what what you said we could put art on the wall i'm not gonna put it on your wall i'm gonna put it in a frame and give it to you well you didn't specify that you said you were just gonna like paint on the wall well fine then i'll do something else i'll give you art or maybe we should uh ask for art and get a would you guys get a P.O. box and be like, send us art? Yeah, we're considering getting a P.O. box. I want a P.O. box. I've always... Because, like, people...
Starting point is 00:30:11 You know what I hate? Like, I'm at this level in my career where people that are, like, really well off, like, showing me their studios. They're like, check out all my cool stuff. I wish you had this. And it's like, what the fuck? Like, I get snapshots like that. I wish you had this.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yeah, and it's like, well, then fucking buy my album. That sounds like some fucking thing you would send an ex. Yeah. You wish you had this. You know what sucks? My current girlfriend always shows me what my ex is doing because of Snapchat. And it's so crazy. She's like, hey, look at what your ex is doing.
Starting point is 00:30:38 She's at Coachella. Ha, you're not at Coachella. And I'm like, oh my god. Fuck you. Jesus. Because they're friends. What? Really? Yeah, it's really strange. That god fuck you Jesus because they're friends oh really yeah it's really strange
Starting point is 00:30:46 that's uncomfortable she says they're friends but it's all social media that's so crazy social media is the main reason like we actually know each other and we met yeah I met Frank
Starting point is 00:30:55 through Twitter yeah and I didn't even think you were real for a while why because I thought you were messing with me did you think why wait
Starting point is 00:31:03 why did you think I was messing with you I don't know what did I do to make you think that you were just like it's Why did you think I was messing with you? I don't know. What did I do to make you think that? It's so weird when someone just comes up and is like, Hey, I like your videos. Let's collab sometime. And I was like, what the fuck? This has never happened to me before.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Is this real? I thought I was going to walk in through the door and you were going to be an elaborate Mexican drug scheme and I was going to end up in the drug cartels or something. It's more of, what is this 12 year old doing messaging me because it happens now i get that a lot ever since dude blowing up kind of like just a bunch of 12 year olds are like i like your stuff we should collaborate sometimes i was like how yeah exactly ryan and i we get emails almost the most recent email okay so we i'm gonna tell
Starting point is 00:31:42 about a few emails that we got just today. So basically, one of the emails was this guy who has, I don't even think he has a YouTube channel yet. Just some little guy, and he was like, hey, I like your stuff. I want to make a YouTube channel, and I want you guys to be my editors, and I'll give you 25% of the revenue I make. He doesn't even have his YouTube channel started. And he sees the amount of effort we put into our channel i guess with the editing blah blah blah but it's like what if he gave us 25 percent each of us would get 12.5 percent of what like of zero subscribers yeah it's like for a lot of work like it takes like it's oh yeah editing these videos it's not something you can
Starting point is 00:32:21 just do at three in the morning it's totally not what we do every night before. Well, we just moved. We're going to get on that. Yeah, sorry if the audio quality of this podcast is not the best. It'll get better, I promise. We're still setting everything up. I still love this place. This place has such good vibes. I walked in and I was like, fuck yeah.
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Starting point is 00:34:13 Imagine having Europe all to yourself during the Air Transat off-season promo. Book your flights to Europe starting at $549 at airtransat.com. Conditions apply. Air Transat.com. Conditions apply. AirTransat. Travel moves us. I actually put together an Ikea desk the other day. I like putting together Ikea furniture. Yeah, it's like a puzzle.
Starting point is 00:34:33 It's like an adult puzzle. Exactly. It's exactly like Bionicles. Is it? Yeah, Bionicles come with those fucking instructions that sometimes you're like, is this part missing? How do I fucking do this? I love how Ikea sometimes it goes from step one,
Starting point is 00:34:48 two, okay, I'm good, three, awesome. Then from three to four, it's almost like a stick and then it turns into a chair. It's so weird because the way it's designed, it's like, what the fuck am I doing? And then when you're done, it's like, okay, I guess it was cool, but the angles are always so off.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I'm sure people are loving this relatable ikea conversation yeah i'm pretty sure well let's talk about relatable things wait wait i want to finish i want to i want to finish talking about the emails i got yeah i i i got another email uh today uh at the kids of props yeah i did okay this guy legitimately um he has a charity in Uganda, and he invited Ryan and I to come to Uganda, and he would pay for our trip to Uganda, just so we could help out his charity. Oh my god. And it's like... Well, I would love to do that, except the stipulation was we have to put...
Starting point is 00:35:38 Together like a team of other YouTubers to promote the charity. Like fucking Avengers style. Like Nick Fury style, put together a team of super YouTubers and it like a team of super YouTubers and it takes place in fucking Uganda
Starting point is 00:35:49 like who are we gonna fucking just like hey fucking like PewDiePie wanna come to Uganda with us
Starting point is 00:35:56 sure bros could you imagine like though if like you actually filmed it like a like a legit documentary series?
Starting point is 00:36:05 We go to Uganda with PewDiePie. That would be groundbreaking. That would get so many Academy Awards documentary stuff. Like PewDiePie goes to Uganda? That sounds like a fucking, like, what are those movies where it's like, it's this guy. Ernest? Yeah, Ernest. Ernest goes to Uganda.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Did they ever find those kids? Are they still missing? What are you talking about? Oh the girls? What are we talking about? In Uganda a bunch of kids got kidnapped That's where the individual children is And then the guy he ended up going to San Diego
Starting point is 00:36:41 And jerking off in San Diego Oh the Kony thing Yeah Kony 2012 Can you believe that was four years ago holy shit can you believe that he fucking jerked off in the streets while he was high on cocaine i would too if i had that money i would never do cocaine kids don't do that i'm genuinely curious like what like how do you get to like dirk's point like what brings you all the way to that point you know I think just unfortunate circumstances yeah life is crazy man a bit of bad luck a bit of bad decisions are crazy yeah well I honestly do believe that um when people some people when they're born they're just not given the opportunity because of their parents because of where they were born the
Starting point is 00:37:19 location the people they're around life just it doesn't have it out for them they're just put in the circumstances it's like a puzzle some puzzles are beautiful but some puzzles just aren't satisfying and i just don't feel like his life came together in a satisfying way unfortunately it's nothing maybe it has nothing to do with what he did unfortunately it just worked out like that because life life has to work out like that there has to be poor people for there to be rich people yeah there's a balance in life i one time i was talking to this this girl she's like asian and i was talking about like i was just like joking about how i was like yeah i was adopted and my parents don't love me and i was just like being an asshole and then she was like oh i was actually adopted from china by an old white couple and i was like that's cool she's like yeah i grew up in burbank
Starting point is 00:38:00 had they not adopted me i was probably be sold into prostitution. And I was like, holy shit. That's crazy. I wonder what she's doing. Dude, you know what I just thought of, Ryan? What? I know how we're going to get this channel big. Yeah? We're going to get our video camera.
Starting point is 00:38:16 We're going to go film ourselves going up to Dirk, and we're going to give him a plastic bag with two cookies and a water bottle and five dollars and film ourselves giving it and slow it down and put some inspirational music and then upload it to YouTube. dollars, and film ourselves giving it, and slow it down, and put some inspirational music,
Starting point is 00:38:27 and then upload it to YouTube. No, no, can we put some sad music, like sad fucking piano music instead? Who fucking did that? Someone did that, were they? A bunch of people did that. Like a million YouTubers did that. Yeah, were they? Look, I'm helping.
Starting point is 00:38:36 It's funny, it's the prank channel. Yeah, the prank channels would go to like, give homeless people like a dollar. Yeah, and they fucking slow it down and shit, and put the music. That's so crazy. I wonder how people think like that like i don't know i i'm afraid to do videos outside the videos that make me mad are the people that are like they give a homeless guy like 20 bucks and then they follow him to be like oh let's see if he's gonna spend it on alcohol and like if they spend it on alcohol they're like hey i gave you that 20 and i told
Starting point is 00:39:00 you to spend it on food it's like if you gave him the money you gave him the fucking money he can spend it on whatever he fucking wants to it's his goddamn life who are you to spend it on food. You gave him the money. You gave him the fucking money. He can spend it on whatever he fucking wants to. It's his goddamn life. Who are you to say, oh, you should go purchase a fucking water bottle? His life is probably sad. His life is probably sad living on the streets. Let him get his drink on. I mean, honestly, you get to go
Starting point is 00:39:20 home to a nice fucking bed. Of course you're going to be complacent where you are. So fuck off with that bullshit. Judging homeless people for what they decide to buy with money you gave them so it's their money now. Come on. If I gave you a gift card for your birthday, I'm not going to follow you around and make sure you spend it on what I want you to spend it on. Get a private investigator to tail me to Target with binoculars and shit. And watch what I buy and, like, mm-mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And then you're going to call me up and be like, dude, like, I gave you that gift card and you bought, you fucking bought this? I make a video about it. It's like Cheaters. Did you guys ever watch Cheaters? Yes. I loved Cheaters. Holy shit. It was so much fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Dude, when I was a kid, when I was a kid, I didn't have cable. watch dude when i was a kid when i was a kid i didn't have cable and whenever i would stay home sick from school like the shows that would be on would be like steve wilkos and mari and like the price is right and cheaters i would watch wilkos dude didn't he always throw a chair yeah dude he'd be like get off my stage throw a fucking chair dude i loved him except all that shit's probably fake though oh yeah all of it is well because like it's still fun where did that come from or isn't it illegal to have dead silence on radio or something something like that i was i actually was in a college radio where i learned how to talk and they were like yeah if you have dead air to learn how to did you not know how to talk until you're in college it took me a while actually before i oh my god pre-2010 me i found videos of me from like 2008 to 2000 i fucking want to slap myself
Starting point is 00:40:50 in the face dude i feel the same way frank like i have a whole youtube channel i have like eight youtube channels that exist that people don't know about yeah but i've shown ryan before but it's like these these youtube videos of me when i was in middle school so many different channels with so many videos on each one and i pray to god that people don't find them people know about my old one like my main one i use but i had sub ones that went off of that yeah and that's actually where the kids with problems channel came from i made it for like it was like a little web series i wanted to make with my cousin back in like 2009 aliens aliens like if the aliens were real they'd fucking come down and zap us i didn't i didn't believe me ryan there was no swearing back then god was gonna smite you down if you said ass shit fucker cunt ryan stop
Starting point is 00:41:38 you still might you never know my old channels are just me fucking singing for people you fucking yeah that's what I heard my old channel is just me fucking people it's true me fucking
Starting point is 00:41:50 singing people it happens me fucking people while they sing just don't whatever you do kids don't go on
Starting point is 00:41:55 xtube.com slash frankjebc xxiii what? what's on there? 23 what? what? what's on on there can i google this right now
Starting point is 00:42:08 do you have do you have real porn videos frank i don't did you make real porn videos now i want to look it up wait what site was it nothing okay wait do you want us to cut this out of the podcast maybe dude did you. Dude, did you and your girlfriend make some porn, dude? I don't know. Oh, gee. Guys, we have a porn star on the podcast today.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I just block out those memories. I typed in Frank Jobsy XIII and it comes up with something where you said, I was feeling really emotional over these spicy ellipses. I don't know what you were so emotional over. Spicy what then ellipses i don't know what what you were so emotional over spicy what beets probably
Starting point is 00:42:48 like the vegetable like they were spicy you said you put fucking sour cream on beets didn't you no it was sour cream on plums basically when i was i was watching courage the cowardly dog and they made they made sour cream and plums and I thought it was like a... I didn't realize that the joke was just... It was just fucking disgusting, but I thought it was a real recipe. I'm like, I'm going to try that. So I fucking...
Starting point is 00:43:11 My parents were at home and I put a plum in the oven and then put sour cream on it and I ate it. Because Courage the Cowardly Dog is fucking sponsored by Rachel Ray. Is it really? No.
Starting point is 00:43:22 It got canceled because there was a... It's too scary, right? Yeah, no, it wasn't too scary. I loved the show, though. They cancelled it because one of the last episodes implied a homosexual relationship between two women characters. It was a cat who was in an abusive relationship with a strong dog, and she leaves with her lover who happens to be a girl fox
Starting point is 00:43:40 because they both have eyelashes. And because it was implied homosexual relationship on Cartoon Arc in the mid-2000s, they cancelled it. What? Wasn't there this whole thing where they were supposed to bring it back? Yeah, but I don't know what happened with that. They brought back Powerpuff Girls and that shit looks horrible. I saw a video of it and it's like
Starting point is 00:43:56 They beat up a minstrel. They're like, what? It's like, I can't even. And they're like, can't even? Oh, she legitimately, literally can't even. And then they start twerking. Yeah, the one where Bubbles has the Magoos. Yeah, the Powerpuff Girls start fucking twerking. And then there's this other episode where they go up against it.
Starting point is 00:44:13 They quote it as it's a fucking, what is he? A minimist? A minimist or whatever. Wait, do they really fight him? No, it's just some fucking lumberjack. Dude, I'm a man. I have a beard and I'm going to make this dims. It's just some Fucking lumberjack Dude I'm a man I have a beard And I'm gonna make this
Starting point is 00:44:27 Dim's What is It's not Dim's It's fairly It's fairly odd apparently I don't know What is Powerpuff Girls City Townsville
Starting point is 00:44:33 Towns That's fucking Is it really Townsville Yeah I don't know I love that Like the old Powerpuff Girls I thought was good
Starting point is 00:44:39 Yeah Yeah I got the movie on VHS From the I watch the movie every day A Valentine's Day gift from Dale. Since we're on the topic of emails, it's around the time where I get so many people wanting me to DJ their prom. Dude, fuck YouTube.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Go DJ some proms. They're giving me pretty good prices, but I don't know how to do it because I don't know what type of I would want to like fucking troll it and just play like songs be like tits ass tits ass ass ass like I have so many just ghetto house songs or just tits and ass everywhere like I think his name's DJ what was his name DJ tits and ass DJ assault he released so many songs that were just like ass titties assies, ass and titties. And it was like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. I first heard that song in this Will Ferrell movie he did with Zach Galifianakis called The Campaign. Really?
Starting point is 00:45:33 Oh, yeah. Because the kids are like, kids, listen to your music. And the kids put on the headphones and it's like, ass and titties, ass and titties. I actually sampled that for Anthony Fantano once and he was like, you have to take out the ass and titties part. Dude, I just remembered something. From my senior year prom in high school, they sold too many tickets, and they reached maximum capacity. Because people got tuxes and paid for prom, they wouldn't leave. So this is who they got to DJ prom.
Starting point is 00:46:03 His name was DJ Kyle. wouldn't leave so so the guy this is who they got the dj prom his name was dj kyle and like it was just this white this middle-aged white man who just like pressed a play button on a spotify playlist and basically like because we reached maximum capacity he turned off the music and refused to play it until people left so literally so literally everyone left prom and everyone got refunds and it was such a fucking nightmare. And I got sick that night so I went and I went and passed out in my car. And just, I was just downtown Charleston just laying in the backseat of my
Starting point is 00:46:32 car. That sounds sad. I didn't go to my prom. It was awful. I went to both my junior and senior prom. I don't really have like any big stories. They're pretty normal proms except for my senior prom I was the only one, because I wanted a grey tux because I thought they looked cool but on me I look like a fucking clown and they late but that's looks like something like like you'd go to your
Starting point is 00:46:50 grandpa's funeral really how do you know okay like it's an instinct to know it's just something that we all inherently just know okay like it's an instinct to know it's like it's just like a little like radar and you're like you're gaydar yeah dude i actually took a picture of her flipping me off once and i was gonna make that an album cover because it looked really absurd but i don't know dude my my grandma like in in contrast my grandma just lives in a little trailer from like the, the 1950s in, like, Picket Post, South Carolina, and goes for walks around Walmart for exercise. Really? Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I like Walmart. I like going to Walmart because it's so fucking just consumerism. There's no Walmarts in LA. You have to go, like, more towards, like, where, like, there are houses and stuff. I saw one one time on the way to Valencia, and that was it. Oh, where'd you guys go? Six Flags? No, we were filming some stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Oh, we should go to Six Flags. Dude, I would love to go to Six Flags. Six Flags is like Disneyland, but ten times better because the rides are faster. Oh, dude, I love fast roller coasters. There's more ghetto people, though, from what I've heard. Disneyland is very like, oh, middle class. What's ghetto mean? Define ghetto, Frank.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Like, if you cut in front of them, they'll say shit and probably beat you up. Whereas in Disneyland, everyone's like... No, you get the moms who will say stuff. My mom was one of those times. Excuse me! My son wants to ride this ride. Everyone's the same. They just go about things in different ways.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Exactly. Some people shoot people and some people just... Some people shoot people. Some people shoot people and some people just some people shoot people and others just shoot people yeah that's how it is aggressive comments in the youtube section for me to read throughout the day and how powerful people are in the comment section they just they type a sentence on their keyboard big man on campus now i know it's like it's a weird ego boost like especially people that like give me like shit for like, the randomest stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Like, my last video. Ryan! Fuck! I was, I was wondering why you were like, climbing up on the couch towards the microphone.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Oh my god. We're, Why would you do that? We're, we're like 20s. We're in our 20s and we're cracking up and Ryan farting
Starting point is 00:49:05 Cause This is something You needed to see people Like yeah it sounds funny Like you just see me like I was wondering what you were doing Just picture this They're talking
Starting point is 00:49:13 I'm sitting over here like Trying to like Wriggling my way up Onto the couch To get my asshole In line with the mic That's your mic from now on I'm not
Starting point is 00:49:21 That mic needs to be Fucking You need to put something on it I've sanctioned it. It's mine. You marked it as yours. You marked it as your territory. Congratulations on your mic.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Alright guys. I think that's a nice little place to end this episode of the podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, please thank our very lovely guest star, Frank Javsi. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. He has a wonderful YouTube channel under theavsi. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. He has a wonderful YouTube channel under the same name.
Starting point is 00:49:48 The link will be in the description. He makes cooking videos and videos on music and Vaporwave and all sorts of fun little shit. So go check out his channel. And on top of that, he's a beautiful person. He's a beautiful person. He's a wonderful person inside and out. You guys are too. Definitely inside.
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Starting point is 00:50:21 Absolutely. I will read that shit. I read all of that shit. Absolutely. So go subscribe to Frank. I read all of that shit. Absolutely. So go subscribe to Frank. Give him a few kisses for us. And any last words, boys? Okay. See you guys next week. Outro Music

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