Sword and Scale - Episode 98

Episode Date: September 3, 2017

"We lock our doors at night to keep the outside world, to keep evil out, right? ...but what happens when evil has a key?" Those were the words spoken by Nation Hahn, a man who knows first han...d how evil can deceptively find its way into your home without warning.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence and is not intended for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. We lock our doors at night to keep the outside world, to keep evil out, right? But what happens when evil has a key? Can't prepare for that. Can't prepare for that. Welcome to season 4, episode 98 of Sword and Scale, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real. This story will break your heart. It's a story of love, a friendship and of family.
Starting point is 00:01:03 But at the same time, it's a story of deceit, of manipulation, and the coolest form of betrayal imaginable. But for now, let's start with the love story. I was a student at UNC, and an email whenever a listserv asking for volunteers for a presidential campaign. So I showed up, I didn't meet her that night, but I kept emailing her basically begging for a task to be involved. And so finally, I think out of exasperation more than anything, she gave me something
Starting point is 00:01:41 to do. So I showed up, this was probably end of January 2007 for a fundraiser. And they led me back to her. That's where I met her. That voice is a man named Nation Han. He is recounting the first time he met Jamie Kirk, the woman who would become his wife. The two became close friends while working on the John Edwards campaign together in 2007. As their friendship developed, the two spent more and more time together and began to develop
Starting point is 00:02:10 feelings for each other. There was one instance in late December where we went out to bar with friends and she drove me home and we had one of those awkward moments where you both set the car with one another and you're like, all right, good night. And she was like, good night. And I was like, well, I'll see you tomorrow or soon. And she said, yeah, me too. And then we just sat there. And I was like, well, good night. And she said, good night again.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And then I got out of the car. And I think that was probably the specific night. She wanted me to kiss her for the first time. But I was either too stupid or too cowardly to do it. After John Edwards dropped out of the presidential race, he held a reception to thank those who'd worked on his campaign. And after John and the Lisbeth spoke
Starting point is 00:02:50 and thanked us for what we did for the campaign, we went out in the patio and my recollection is she leaned in and kissed me. She might tell you a different story, or she would have, but we kissed that night. And from there started dating. And eventually things got even more serious. In May or early June, I ordered an engagement ring.
Starting point is 00:03:11 We had gone down to see Deborah, Jamie's mom, on Easter weekend and Jamie told her, you know, so this is the man I'm gonna marry. And I think Deborah was a little surprised because I was new on the scene, but about a month or two later, I ordered our engagement ring with intentions of waiting till August or September or October. But the day it arrived, which was June 18, I went up to FedEx, I'd had it shipped in, and I carried around in my pocket. As soon as I got back
Starting point is 00:03:40 to the office, I showed a coworker, because we were working together, Jamie and I was like, man, I really want to ask her tonight. So I made her dinner and I think she went and got her nails done while I was cooking for. And then we went down to the battery in Charleston. But when we got down there, my nerves sort of got the better of me at first, so we just kept walking. And there wasn't really any clear reason for us to be walking. And she was like, well, I know, I've got a headache,
Starting point is 00:04:06 my feet are aching in these hills. You want to go home. And I said, let's just walk a little bit further. And then I got to go and ask her. And then she was feeling better. She didn't have a headache or her feet didn't bother anymore. So yeah. Nation asked his best friend, Jonathan Broihill,
Starting point is 00:04:21 to be the best man at his wedding. Nation had become friends with John in high school when the two went on a church trip to Daytona together. I had seen him before around the church because our families went to the same church, but I didn't know him particularly well. And on that trip he was a shaperone of youth, and so he was in one room. I was in another room with an older guy who was a shaperone. And so over the course of that trip, we interacted. And I think that was really when we began to be friends.
Starting point is 00:04:48 At the same time, John had just graduated high school, and nation was entering his freshman year of high school. They grew closer while nation was in high school and remained friends when nation went off to college at the University of North Carolina. After nation and Jamie began dating, John developed a close relationship with the couple. He and Jamie became close pretty quickly. He came out and visited us in Charleston once. I think it was just once.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And that was when he came out and told us both that he was gay for the first time. And Jamie was very understanding, I was too, but Jamie was very understanding and immediately, had already become friends with him but became closer friends. Nation and Jamie got married on April 18, 2009, with Jonathan Broihill as their best man. After the wedding, the couple moved from Charleston, South Carolina to Rally, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:05:41 In the late summer or early fall of 2009, John would join them in rally. Nation and Jamie helped him with the move. Jamie said, you know, while you're looking for roommate, you can use our gas bedroom and he would. And then he ultimately found him a place to live. We often find a roommate around this time. Jamie who had started a political consulting company called Sky Blue was beginning to tick on more and more work. She needed to hire someone to help her out. So she asked her friend, John Boyhill, to work for Sky Blue. She made the decision, I don't remember exactly when it was that spring to bring them on
Starting point is 00:06:15 to help her with the workload, particularly with the J-Dyer Congressional campaign. After the Dyer campaign ended, Sky Blue was hired by Congressman Brad Miller's campaign in 2011. Jamie headed campaign fundraising and strategy, and John was responsible for filing reports with the Federal Election Commission, checking the email, and cutting the campaign's checks. Sky Blue was thriving. Nation and Jamie were happily married, and Jamie got to work alongside John, one of her closest friends. It seemed like everything was going great, but then, illness befell this happy trio.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It began in early 2012, when John began to have problems related to gallstones. He started having some gallstone issues. He went into the doctor and the doctor basically advised him to change his diet and is what he had told us. So he began to somewhat eat healthier. But in the spring of 2012, he started complaining of not feeling right of being sluggish, of having headaches, of nausea. And so he said, you know, but after this busy time period, I'll go to the doctor. And he started going to have doctor's appointments in June and July.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I think it was August, if I remember correctly. I just remembered Jamie called me and I was at a meeting and she said, you know, come home right after work. You know, we need to talk, John was talk to you and we were talking and it's like, well, what's going on? And she said, no, no, no, he wants to tell you, he wants to tell you. I was concerned because he'd been complaining about health issues. And so if I remember correctly, I asked her to put him on the phone.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And when I was on the phone, he told us that, or told me that he had been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, or MS. Jamie and nation did everything they could to help their friend through this diagnosis. Jamie, in particular, was anything we can do, we'll do, and she, as was her won't, dive right into research trying to figure out, okay, how do you contain this? And so she and I both, but primarily she would research diets that, you know, there's a strand of thought that like a diet heavy on kale and certain nutrients helps like slow or mitigate the effects of MS, for example.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And so Jamie started cooking more kale. To mitigate the flu-like symptoms of MS treatment, John planned to do injections on Saturday, rest on Sunday, and be ready for work on Monday. But John's symptoms were pervasive. MS makes you, our understanding was, makes you slower moving in the morning. So he started coming in a little bit later. I meant, Jamie usually had to try to be there between nine, around nine, thirty, maybe ten. And he started coming in a little bit later periodically. I can remember a couple of days where he would complain of sort of winding headaches or other other symptoms that were, you know, that were part of MS, and that like I came home one day and he was laying upstairs with a wet washcloth over his head over his face. He, we encouraged him,
Starting point is 00:10:01 particularly Jamie, encouraged him to go and walk to try to. Our understanding was the way that MS works is it attacks your muscles over time and helps break down muscles over time. And so Jamie encouraged him to go and long walks or to do anything really physical that would help him preserve his muscle mass or his health for as long as possible. And the MS started to affect his memory as well. He started taking more copious notes and he would complain about, you know, I remember one time I'm being, I can't remember what he had forgotten.
Starting point is 00:10:33 He's like, you know, damn, I forgot this, you know, and he would get very frustrated with himself about memory loss issues. John met regularly with a friend of the Hans who had been battling MS for years to help him deal with the day-to-day challenges. Once he was diagnosed with, or once he told us, sorry, once he told us he was diagnosed with MS, he would go have coffee with Pam, semi-regulatory, you know, and she would give him tips on how to combat MS.
Starting point is 00:11:00 She gave him resources, connected to the MS Society, recommended support groups. John's MS diagnosis also required him to go to medical appointments throughout the week. He would need an afternoon offer. He needed to come in light to go to his doctor's appointment, Chapel Hill. He typically went alone, or I think always went alone, but he would fill us in as he left. I know at various points, he was concerned that there were lesions on his brain, which I think is a common occurrence from MS, and those lesions were growing, like there were more of them.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And so he would share, you know, either they stayed the same, they shrunk, they grew. At some point, I believe it was still in 2012, and this happened. His doctors advised him that he switched to an infusion treatment, stopped the injections, which were, you know, sort of self-done and switched to infusions, which is where you go to the hospital and you're there for, I think, three hours roughly. You know, we always offered, either one of us,
Starting point is 00:11:58 primarily Jamie, offered to take him to those appointments, but our friend Carol Ericsson, who had worked for Congress in Miller, was out of a job come November. And so she was the one who would ultimately take him. So we would always have to Carol, she had Phyllis Anne, she would take him up, drop him off, he would deal with infusions for a couple of hours, and she would go pick him up, take him home, and usually have cooked him a meal that she would leave with him, and that's what I think.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And I think that was, so I guess if Carol was doing it, that must have been December, January, February of 2012, January, February of December, 2012, January, February, 2013, when he switched treatments. Through all the treatments, John, Jamie, and nation stayed close. They kept up a Monday night dinner tradition, and John and Jamie would watch dancing with the stars and the bachelorette together. John frequently stayed over in the Hans guest room. After Brad Miller's congressional campaign ended,
Starting point is 00:12:48 Jamie couldn't afford to pay John anymore. In February of 2013, John found a new job in North Rally with a company called LabCore. And so he was working for LabCore at that point. In March of 2013, John took a trip with the Hans to Atlanta, but after eating chili dogs at the varsity and other junk food on the trip, John started to feel sick.
Starting point is 00:13:11 When all of us got back from Atlanta, he started complaining about more and more health issues. And so, I mean, issues with what he presumed were gallstones, nausea, throwing up, going to the restroom, a lot, etc. At some point he went into the doctor and that mid-march in a march period, and they told him that he would need to have his gallstones removed for whatever the procedure is. So he scheduled the surgery. It was scheduled for, I think, maybe the last week of March, if I remember correctly. And I remember it was scheduled later in the week because Jamie, because she had fewer clients at that point,
Starting point is 00:13:46 she had two nonprofits she was working with, offered to take him to the surgery. And so that would have been, I think it was on a Thursday. So she had blocked off the whole day. On Wednesday, I think it was, he contacted her and said, you know, so sorry, I'm not gonna, you know, my blood pressure was too high, went in for pre--op appointment and they said my blood pressure was too high. I'm really embarrassed that my blood pressure is too high, but they said it
Starting point is 00:14:10 wouldn't be to say for me to have surgery. So they said, you know, they've given me some medication to deal with that and they push my surgery back to the week following. John's gallbladder surgery was pushed back to Tuesday, April 2, 2013. Following the operation, John stayed at the Hans guest room. He said that he'd gone through the surgery okay. He looked fatigued, but it was, you know, close to 11. He moved really gingerly, you know, and I guess indicated where they had had an incision. And so he sort of moved gingerly, propped himself up. He was on his iPad when I came in. We just generally had a conversation. He said, yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:50 you know, I've been fine. I feel okay, you know, weak, nauseous, you know, but everything went well. And we just had a pretty simple conversation. John stayed in the guest room recovering until the following Saturday, April 6th. He set up stairs in our guest bedroom, sort of for the duration, for most of that week. I want to say Thursday night was the first time he came downstairs and he walked really gingerly and he came downstairs and he visited with us for a little bit. But generally he is in his room for the most part. On Tuesday, April 9th, John went over to the Hans House for dinner, but something was wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:26 He walked in, he looked like he'd seen a ghost, he looked very weak, sort of white-faced. And as he walked towards me, a sort of mouth, what's wrong, and he broke down in tears, and sort of collapsed against my chest, crying. So I hung up the phone, I let him into the living room, and you know, I was asking him what was wrong and he was crying. Family he calmed down, he sat down on the couch and I asked him what's wrong. And he said, well you know I went from a post-op visit with a doctor today and he sort of choked up, he said, you know that they found a spot when they were going in to remove my gallstones or whatever it was with the surgery.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And they wanted to biopsy that spot. And then he said, he started crying and he said, it's because they think I have pancreatic cancer. Nation and Jamie were shaken. Thinking that pancreatic cancer would essentially be a death sentence for their dear friend. I think it just drove home to her how fragile life can be. I mean, because it seemed like death sentence for him. I mean, even if we were optimistic.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I remember her tears she turned to me and said, don't you think we should have a baby? I was the first time she ever brought it up. So distinctly, and I just remember her saying, I want our child to know all the people that we love. And this just, basically, this drives home that the people we love may not always be with us. Nation and Jamie had been planning a trip to the beach the following week to celebrate
Starting point is 00:17:07 their April 18th anniversary and nation's 27th birthday on April 19th. They pushed the trip off in order to bring John to his biopsy appointment on Monday, April 15th at the Duke Cancer Center. Jamie and I came in, walked in, to the lobby. John was standing across the lobby in to the lobby. John standing across the lobby, like to the far left, talking to a nurse or what
Starting point is 00:17:31 I presume was a nurse or to receptionist at a desk. He came over to us and told us that they needed to take him back right then for test and they would come get us if he needed us. So we then went and sat in the lobby and he
Starting point is 00:17:44 went back through double doors behind the receptionist desk. Nation and Jamie sat in the lobby for around two hours waiting for John. We were sitting downstairs and our seated and we and then we saw him coming down the steps or like if you walked into the reception area or what have you the lobby. There's a steps of go down and run in front of the double doors as you come in and he was coming down the steps. We rushed over and he said, you know, they just rushed him through, rushed him into the doctor's visit. And he told us he did indeed have pancreatic cancer about the doctors were hopeful. And we waited on our car.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Along that time he suggested that he had to come back for a scope, I guess, for further tests and a couple other things next, the 23 so week, almost a week in a day. And so we said, yeah, of course, we'll be there for you. John would not make it to his appointment on April 23rd. Nation and Jamie brought John to his house and headed for the beach where they stayed at a friend's beach house. They invited some friends to join them at the beach house for nation's birthday on Friday, April 19th. John went down to the Beach House for nation's birthday on Friday, April 19th.
Starting point is 00:18:46 John went down to the Beach House with a friend late on Friday. He stayed with the Hans at the Beach House through Sunday. On Sunday afternoon, nation talked with John about how he was feeling. John had walked out in the beach. I was sitting by himself staring out the ocean, so I walked out and asked him if he wanted to walk up and down the beach when we did. And we had a conversation.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I just asked him, how are you really doing? How are you feeling? He just shared that, you know, he felt like the next few months were going to be rough, but that he would come out in the other side okay, that he really appreciate how much we were supporting him and that things would work out. That Sunday, April 21st, everyone returned from the beach. Nation and Jamie volunteered to take John to his appointment for further tests on Tuesday, April 23rd. Jamie had discovered a few financial discrepancies from the Brad Miller campaign, so she asked John to come over and sort out the paperwork the night before his appointment. Because John's appointment was early on Tuesday morning, the Hans offered up their guest room for
Starting point is 00:20:00 the night. That Monday, April 22nd, nation came home a bit early from work and saw that John was already at the house. He greeted John on his way in. I saw John was walking through the kitchen. So whenever Yamaha asked him how he's doing, he said, yeah, I'm doing okay. I asked him, are you going to stay with us tonight? Yeah, because his procedure was a think schedule for 730. And he said he thought so. Nation was about to go for a run, so he headed upstairs to his bedroom to change out of his work clothes.
Starting point is 00:20:29 After throwing on basketball shorts and a t-shirt, Nation went to use the bathroom. I was using the restroom and I heard Jamie scream. And I yelled at what? And I turned to leave the restroom and I yelled what again. And she called my name, she screamed nation, but she also screamed John. My immediate assumption was that something had happened with him, the way she was screaming
Starting point is 00:20:57 his name it just sounded like something like he passed out or something. So I started proceeding through the bedroom as quickly as I could, through open the door. She was still alternating her names, truing mine as if sort of come, screaming his in a different way. I was halfway down the stairs and I was yelling what as I ran or what's happening. I was halfway down the stairs and she screamed out he's trying to kill me. I kept my proceeded down the stairs. And I saw around to the corner of the stairs. They were right here. I saw around to the corner. And my eyes immediately went. There was blood on the floor and I could see Jamie's legs sticking out from sort of like here's the door I could
Starting point is 00:21:47 see her legs were and lower torso poking out from there. I hasn't immediately went to that and now looked up and he John was standing over her with a knife. You come home from work and you greet your best friend, who's spending the night at your house. You've known this man for half of your life, since you met him on a church trip in high school. You chose him as the best man in your wedding. You vacationed with him. You had dinner with him every Monday for years. You were there for him when he was diagnosed with MS, when he had surgery, when he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He was part of your family.
Starting point is 00:22:48 You go upstairs to change, you hear screaming, and then you go downstairs, and here he is, your best man, repeatedly stabbing your wife. He immediately turned and per se towards me. I screamed out what the fuck are you doing? Sorry, and he came towards me. He had the knife up or he pulled the knife up and then he Slided towards me and my immediate reaction as best I can remember was to try to grab the blade or to grab towards it because it was coming towards me And we immediately started sort of wrestling. I was trying to get the blade from him.
Starting point is 00:23:26 At the same time, I was hitting him, sort of open face with palm of my hand, screaming at him, what are you doing? And no response. I was also screaming at Jamie to get out of the house. I was trying to get the knife from him. And I was trying to, you know, wanted to get to her.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I was screaming for her to leave. Eventually, I mean, she got up, you know, we're wrestling up. I could I mean, she got up. We're wrestling and I could hear the side door swing open. You know, I'm still fighting him, trying to keep him from hurting me. You know, I didn't even realize my hands had been cut at the time.
Starting point is 00:23:55 It's very hard to piece together all of it except that I was trying desperately to get the knife from him. I just know that I created separation. I mean, I don't, I think I shoved him with my sight, with my arm. But either way, I immediately't, I think I shoved him with my sight, with my arm. But either way, I immediately turned to run and ran through the dining room. And as I ran, I saw him going down the hallway. I ran through the house and got out the side door.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I started looking for Jamie. I was, no, I couldn't see her at the time. I don't remember distinctly how I proceeded out of the house, except I went out the side door and went, I think, down the driveway, screaming for help. Nation ran towards his neighbor, Julie's house, covered in blood and screaming for help. I was in the kitchen, which is kind of behind the front door, and then my daughter's sort of yelling at someone's at the door
Starting point is 00:24:38 or someone's at the door, and you could hear it was kind of chaotic. And they had seen someone run up to the door, which ended up being a nation, come to the door. That point in time, I can see the door's glass. So I can see a nation there at the door. I remember correctly, he was wearing like a white t-shirt. His hair was kind of a mess. He had a little blood splattered on his t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And he was yelling frantically. So I had no idea what was happening, but our stairs to go up to the bedrooms are right behind that glass. So the first thing I did was I took both girls, I locked the back door to the screen and porch, the door to the garage, ran to the front where the steps are,
Starting point is 00:25:19 pushed them behind me, set them up to stairs, quickly, and told them to lock their door and to stay there until someone came to get them. So about that time my husband's office, you see the big window upstairs was where his office was. He had heard the commotion as well. So he was coming down the steps about the same time as I was reaching towards the door. I'm going to look to the door, nationals, you know, help someone please help my wife. So that
Starting point is 00:25:46 time we were both there at the door at the same time. I looked out and I'd saw, I guess Jamie are figure lane at the bottom of the front steps. And she was lane where you see those bags and the towels there. So in all of the time I could see that she had blood on her. So I quickly sent Bill back up to get some towels. He ran up and grabbed a few beach towels and then was back downstairs again. We didn't know what had happened. I just assumed that someone had probably been hit by a car or a bike accident. I didn't know anything yet. So when we got down to the bottom of the steps, I had the towels, I knelt down so that my head was right by Jamie's head.
Starting point is 00:26:26 We asked nation what happened and she said that she had been stabbed, which then took us both back by surprise. No one expects to hear that. I think Bill asked who stabbed her, what do you mean she's been stabbed. And he said, so my best friend, my best friend, and Bill said, where is he now? And he said, we're still in the house. Who stabbed her? It was my best friend.
Starting point is 00:26:48 My best friend. At this point, another neighbor Angie had heard nation screaming help and called 911. Amidst the chaos, you can hear Jamie moaning in the background, still conscious and talking to nation. Okay, the fuel wire drops. Okay, what's going on? I'm on the phone. What's going on? I'm on the phone. Damn. What's happening over there? I don't know, there's a lady bleeding.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Carefully. Okay, how the children's body is inside? Okay, this is inside. Okay, somebody's there. It's bleeding. Okay, okay, I'm getting a little further. Yeah, I'm getting a little further. Damn, I'm getting a little further. No, I'm not. I've got one more on the phone. Damn, I'm getting a little further.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Hello? Hello? Hello? Okay, I'm getting a pair of minutes all the way right now. I need to get to the information. Man, listen, we're starting to have to see me. And you need to get some information to help the staff for better, okay?
Starting point is 00:28:03 There's another delay to them at all. Okay, is the person who staffed her still there? She's here and someone else is your official and you're from. Okay, what does she look like? I don't know, they're pressing on her stomach. It's all in her stomach. Now, the person who staffed her, she's still there. I don't know. I don't know who it is. It's already that was number three. She's been stabbed and she's been there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:27 All right. Like that. It's a paramedic from the way. How old is the patient? I'm sorry. About how old is my father? I'm sorry. About how old is she?
Starting point is 00:28:35 Maybe 35. Okay. Is she away? She's talking and responding. Yes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Is she away? She's talking and responding. wait. I'm sorry? She'll wait. She's talking and responding yet. So I just got blood all over her pants and her shirt. Okay. I'll just back it. Yeah, I've got, did she completely alert?
Starting point is 00:29:03 The person is still in the house and we need to please, as we're talking to the police to comment as well, is the patient completely alert? Is he still talking, really? Is he talking? Is he talking? No, he's just waiting out. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I'm just letting the paramedic know. Just a second. I'm just updating the paramedic know. Just a second. I'm just updating the real quick. I'm just saying I love you. So she's alert. Is there more than one wound in your house?
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'm sorry. Is there more than one wound? Is there more than one wound? Yeah, there's multiple. Okay. All right, like I said, the paramedic's, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Leave the towels all there. Yeah, keep firm pressure on it. And keep pressure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Okay, that is done. What are the doors? Okay, just reassure that it helps us on the way. All right. Do you not let her have anything to eat or drink? It could make her sick or cause problems for the doctor. And right now, don't move unless it's absolutely necessary. The color of the stool may burn out too a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:29 OK. Any idea which house the suspect is in? Where are the two houses? Where's the person at? You know those two. 17 or five killed wood. Where the suspect is. OK. All right. at this point in the call Angie asks nation to describe the person who stabbed Jamie What's the name? Longbow Hill.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Draw and boy Hill. What's he wearing? He wears a dress. The police are here. Okay, it's a police wrong scene. I'm sorry, he said the police are already there. Yeah, they're here. Okay, I'll go ahead and disconnect.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Okay, thank you. Thank you. Nation was still talking to Jamie. As you remember, tell her go ahead and disconnect. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Nation was still talking to Jamie. As you remember, telling her that loved her, you know, we would say we set it back and forth and promising her that we would have a lot more anniversary is a total we'd go back to the beach as soon as she was better.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And we just had that kind of conversation. Officers showed up and after hanging up the phone Angie went over to Jamie. I just wanted to help her know that somebody's there helping her and just told her to keep her even and she just started saying I can't breathe. I can't breathe and then it was like she just almost glazed their overlook. EMS arrived and took nation and Jamie to the hospital. Police had put up a perimeter around the Hans House shouting commands.
Starting point is 00:32:07 We go. So anybody can hear us. Is there's anyone inside? Make yourself known. And they also says, come back towards the sound of my voice. After three or four commands, John stepped out of the house. Officer Roy Smith commanded John to back up towards the sound of his voice. After a few seconds, John collapsed, and officer Smith approached him.
Starting point is 00:32:29 When he was at my feet, I saw a self-inflicted knife wound to both his wrist. They were so severe that I can actually remember that I could see skin on both sides of his arm right here, flapping. That was on both hands, or both arms, very deep. And I also noticed a, he would appear to be a stab into a stomach, and I can see his intestines protruding through. After EMS was called over, Officer Smith entered the house and saw the aftermath of what had occurred minutes before.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Once we conferred that there was nobody else injured, nothing else was any danger inside the home. I noticed in the kitchen there was blood all over the walls, blood, a pool of blood I believe on the floor. I noticed a knife near or in the pool of blood. I can't remember exactly where it was at this time, but I know it was right there by the pool of blood. I noticed I believe a chair turned over in the kitchen. At that point, I was like, all right, we got to set up a crime scene and we exit the house. Jamie and Nation were both taken to the hospital. Jamie was put into surgery,
Starting point is 00:33:36 and Nation received treatment for the knife wounds on his hands. Nation stayed at the hospital after his hands were stitched up, hoping that Jamie would make it. Because we had had a conversation, she'd gone out of the house because we had a conversation, I just believed, you know, and when I left her, I mean we said, I love you, and while she was complaining about her breathing, she was with us. And so, but finally the doctor told us that Jamie wasn't going to make it. And so, we were with her in the hotel, I mean in the hospital room and then sat there and it was like a little bit before 2 a.m. I think. At 1.53 a.m. on Wednesday, April 24th, Jamie Han died at the hospital, murdered at
Starting point is 00:34:20 the hands of one of her closest friends. But there were some things about that friend that Jamie never knew. ["The Night of the World"] ["The Night of the World"] ["The Night of the World"] Let's start with John Broihill's employment with Sky Blue Strategies, Jamie's consulting firm.
Starting point is 00:34:40 On April 15th, while nation and Jamie were on their way to the beach, Jamie was informed by a debt collector named Charles Wilford that a check from Brad Miller's Congressional campaign account had bounced. She called Charles Wilford, assuming that there had been some sort of mistake. We got to check. The problem is it bounced. It did. Did I lie?
Starting point is 00:35:01 It bounced. Checked number 3931. The 5901 chance of time is a title on it, Bill. Yeah? It back. We received it on, it looks like you received it on April 8th. Yeah. And today, you're back, saying, they're good.
Starting point is 00:35:18 They're good. They're good. Okay. Well, let me check on that for you now. I'll be back here. Why don't you open it? I can let you get a phone in there. Okay, remember that this is from your bike, it's about us. You can even want to do a dammit when you're on AC and you see these. We're on my left, but call if you can get the check. Okay, we'll just go ahead and do your drill and then get on back with the JNR.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Okay, can you tell us again that check my motor? Check for $591.10 made out to time Warner Cable had bounced. Jamie sounds so surprised in that phone call because according to her records, the campaign account should have had far more than enough money to cover that $591 check. There were only three people authorized to write checks for the Brad Miller campaign, one of whom was John Broyhill. And in 2011, Jamie would entrust the defendant with substantial financial responsibilities as to Sky Blue's signature client, US Congressman Brad Miller. Sky Blue was now managing Congressman Miller's campaign
Starting point is 00:36:42 account. The division of labor was the following. Jamie would handle the fundraising side of business for Congressman Miller's campaign and the defendant was responsible for the accounting and reporting side of the business and what that meant as the defendant's responsibilities was he was the one entrusted with the checking account of the campaign. He was the one thatusted with the checking account of the campaign. He was the one that would maintain the checking account with writing issued checks. As to the reporting or compliance
Starting point is 00:37:12 side of the defendant's responsibilities, as to the Brad Miller campaign, what that entailed was, the campaign, the committee would have to report quarterly to the FEC, the Federal Election Commission, every quarter how much money the campaign brought in, how much money the campaign spent during that relevant time period, and the bank balance of the campaign's account. The evidence will show within months of assuming that position of trust. If the event begins to embezzle thousands of dollars for a consular account by writing himself checks. John wrote 39 checks from the Brad Miller campaign account made payable to Jonathan Broyhill and from Jonathan Broyhill.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Between the period of June 2011 through March of 2013, there were 39 checks totaling more than $46,500. John had embezzled nearly $50,000 from the Miller campaign, leaving the campaign account with a negative balance of more than $3,000 when he stopped working for Sky Blue. That's why the Time Warner Cable Check had bounced on April 15. In the weeks leading up to her death, Jamie had been trying to get John to help her straighten out the financial reports for the Miller campaign. However, she didn't want to push too much work on him given his health situation. On the day Jamie died, she was meeting with John to discuss some of the financial discrepancies
Starting point is 00:38:46 that were showing up. At 105 PM that day, she called John to see when he'd be over. Hey, it's me, she says. I'm just calling to check in on all this Brad stuff. I'm wondering if you want to come over here Maybe like forish Just over four hours after Jamie left that voicemail John would be standing over her with a knife in her own kitchen I remember asking something effective. Why do you do this or what what happened and I knew they were gonna look at bank books and I said, did he take Brad's money?
Starting point is 00:39:25 Who are what happened? And she didn't really respond to them. As it turns out, the embezzlement wasn't the only thing that John had been hiding from the Hunts. There was also his job at Lab Corps. He has never been employee at Lab Corps. And then the multiple sclerosis. He invented illnesses and non-existent daughter's appointments. Then the multiple sclerosis.
Starting point is 00:39:59 John's MS diagnosis more than a year prior, was a lie. The drowsiness, the headaches, the memory loss, the nausea, the muscle soreness, all of it was a sham. The injections and the infusions were made up. All of the weekly doctor's appointments, which the Hans-Fran Carol had driven them to, were fake. When John had met the Hans-Fran Pam to talk about their shared diagnosis, he was learning how to better imitate someone with the disease.
Starting point is 00:40:34 At John's trial, nation was asked in regards to John's MS. Did you ever doubt it? Why would you? Why would anyone doubt it. Why would you? Why would anyone doubt it? For seemingly no reason, John had convinced his family and friends that an incurable chronic condition was deteriorating his central nervous system. But it didn't stop there.
Starting point is 00:40:57 John had also lied about the gallstone surgery. And like the MS, it was not a simple lie. He went as far as to reschedule the operation due to high blood pressure and then stayed in the Hans guest room to recover. March 27, 2013 at 2, sorry, yes, 2.26, 28 pm. This is from Jonathan Boyhill, Gmail account. Content is Jamie, I am sorry that you have tomorrow blocked off, so sorry. I have Tuesday covered if you are busy, but I will definitely need to stay with you guys afterwards for at least two to three days. Stairs will not be a problem. Emile continues on, okay family.
Starting point is 00:41:47 My surgery has been moved to Tuesday at 9am. My blood pressure is way too high for surgery tomorrow. That embarrasses the crap out of me. I'm on blood pressure medicine now. The nurse in anestheties, I would have stroked out if surgery had gone as planned as high as my BP was. He stayed in bed at the Hans house for an entire week, recovering from a surgery that never happened. And not for a moment, should you believe the defendant did not intentionally and only lie about having MS,
Starting point is 00:42:21 they didn't intentionally and only lie about having gold blower surgery. They didn't know what he was doing. When he did those things, he didn't desire to do what in fact he did, such as recovering at the haunted house from non-existent surgery being waited on. Regardless of any depression or down days, he does what he intends to do, just like everything else in Jonathan Broell's life. He does exactly what he wants to do, what he plans to do, and what he intends to do for whatever reason, no matter how strange that reason may be.
Starting point is 00:42:55 If you're connecting the dots, you might be realizing that it was during John's Galstone removal surgery that doctors discovered a spot. John told Jameon Nation about that potentially cancerous spot before dinner on April 9. But before he went over to tearfully deliver this news, he was doing a little Google research. On 288, a search at Google Search is being done on pancreatic cancer. Another Google search is it possible for a 30-year-old to have pancreatic cancer. Another Google search is it possible for a 30-year-old to have pancreatic cancer. Next search is what are the risk factors for pancreatic cancer. Next search is all pancreatic cancer at a young age
Starting point is 00:43:37 messages. 292, it's a Wikipedia, I don't know what that is. Another cancer type search. It looks like. Correct. It continues on. Pancreatic malignant tumor, pancreatic cancer, ductal caranoma, ductal and caranoma, ductal caranoma. That was the same night that Jamie told nation that they should have a baby, so that their child might have an opportunity to meet everyone they
Starting point is 00:44:05 love while they were still alive on this earth. Pancreatic cancer, complete fabrication. On April 15, Jamie and nation took John to the Duke Cancer Center for his biopsy. That morning, likely in the car with Jamie and nation, on the way to his fabricated appointment. John was doing some more Google research. Google search is being conducted a medical oncologist at Duke. I continue on. How long 13?
Starting point is 00:44:36 List of pancreatic cancer doctors at Duke. While Jamie and nation spent two hours waiting in the lobby, John was just walking around the halls of the hospital. Jonathan Broihill embezzled nearly $50,000 through Jaime's consulting company. He lied about finding a new job. He lied about having multiple sclerosis. He lied about having gallstone removal surgery, and he lied about having pancreatic cancer. Clearly, Jamie and nation never knew this man.
Starting point is 00:45:10 The sword touches on the interesting but legally irrelevant question of why. How could he have done this? There were such dear friends. Well, to start, we need to re-evaluate this characterization of best friends. Let's be clear, Jamie and Nation did not know Jonathan Boyle. Jamie and Nation did not know the real Jonathan Boyle. There was no real genuine friendship. That is painfully obvious. We know that now.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Jamie and Nation did not know that then. Jonathan Boyle was a strange, self-absorbed, mastermind manipulator, skilled at effortlessly to go shaking off his elaborate deceptions, who finally revealed himself on April 22, 2013. So the reality, the now known reality is this was not a genuine mutual friendship based on any measure of mutual trust.
Starting point is 00:46:09 It was a betrayal, it was a betrayal, and that betrayal burned for years. Why? Why construct a complex series of lies to convince your friends that you're seriously ill? And why stab one of those friends to death with a chef's knife. On April 26, four days after the murder, Rally Police Detective Zeke Morse interrogated John at the hospital and asked him some of these questions.
Starting point is 00:46:37 John responds so softly that it's difficult to make out what he's saying. At one time, I thought I did, he says. Why are we talking about cancer when it pops up? That wasn't accurate. John struggles to piece together a response, starting and stopping multiple times before giving an answer. Clearly, I don't have it. I don't know why I was telling people that. He says, You know, the doctor's woman with a gymnasium to her college to do the one-point? Yes. And what happened there that doctor's the woman?
Starting point is 00:47:39 I just... I don't know. I hope to be on it. What happened at the doctor's appointment? I just... I'm all too young. What happened at the doctor's appointment? I just walked around. Detective Morse asks John when he started telling people that he had cancer. When he gets through that,
Starting point is 00:47:58 when he used that company with that, two weeks to 9 minutes, two weeks to 9 minutes, two weeks to 9 minutes. The wheels were coming off the bus. I just felt like they were, he says. I'm thinking of teaching. I have a lot of work to do. Right. That's the thing that greatly concerned me is, I didn't mean it. Right. Because what did you like the attention for?
Starting point is 00:49:03 I don't really know. I don't true. Was it because of the attention? I didn't want the attention because I have a lot of wonderful friends. That's the thing that greatly concerned me. I didn't mean it. Did you like the attention? Not really. I don't know what caused me to tell people that because clearly it wasn't true. And about the cancer, was he planning to tell nation and Jamie the truth?
Starting point is 00:49:43 Did you ever think about and Jamie the truth? They would have been upset, naturally. In time, they would have understood, I think, Detective Morse asked John what started the embezzlement. What happened in August 2001 when you started back? I'm going to be sure on a bill or... There really was a reason for it. Detective Morse also asked about the murder weapon, the six-inch chef's knife that John had been carrying around in his backpack.
Starting point is 00:50:47 John had been buy the knife? I was having a down day. You might be thinking maybe he killed Jamie because she'd uncovered the embezzlement. Well detective Morse also asked about that. If it was just that, if it was just the embezzlement, I would have faced it. How do you think they were responding to you did not sit in the balcony and does not issue? I think you would have understood. I think they would have understood. And when asked what he remembered about the murder, what do you want to write that?
Starting point is 00:51:54 I don't have the numbers of the super murder. I'm just saying this. Seven here. I just remember stabbing her in the back, being stabbed in the back by your best friend, both figuratively and literally. Whether Jonathan Boyhill is the most twisted, calculated killer, or whether he is a despondent, broken person who made uncharacteristic violent decisions that day, or even if the truth lasts somewhere in between, is a no legal consequence. This jury will not resolve that question.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Although they could not resolve that question, the jury did reach a verdict in the murder trial of Jonathan Broihill. Madam Clark, would you announce the verdict? On number 13, CRS-337, we8, count 1, guilty of attempted first-degree murder, and count 2, guilty of assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, inflicting serious injury. And at the sentencing hearing, Jamie's family members had the opportunity to address Jamie's killer.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I say this now to Jamie's killer. She gave you a place to live. She cared for you. You sat at her table for meals. You worked alongside her in her business. You went on trips together. You shared holidays, birthdays, and special events. You watched favorite shows and movies together.
Starting point is 00:53:42 You partied together, you shared her friends and her family. Chris and I accepted you into our home and treated you like family. You totally ingratiated yourself into every aspect of her and of our lives and then you murdered our daughter. You murdered Jamie. I know now firsthand there's evil in the world and he sits before us in this courtroom as Jamie's killer. John you gave Jamie a death sentence.
Starting point is 00:54:12 You gave all the rest of us a life sentence and now you can share in that life sentence John. And then nation addressed his high school friend, his best man, his wife's murderer, who sat across from him with his head bowed down, refusing to look up. We've learned so much about the evil that exists in this world, evil that is represented today with this murderer in front of us who won't look up. We've also learned much about the good. Everyone who's here today, everyone who's been there from the beginning have helped us survive,
Starting point is 00:54:52 the unsurppivable. Mr. Aubrey yesterday, you said your client was at a point where he was ready to die. Well, first he had to take our lives. Evident shows that. But I wanna make a point that, you know, I can empathize with those feelings you were describing. Because of your client, I was ready to die.
Starting point is 00:55:11 For a very, very, very, long time. I walked around buildings and thought about jumping off of them. I didn't wear my seatbelt because I hope somebody would hit me. So I can empathize with those feelings you described. I can empathize with the feelings of wanting to die because until you've had someone who you love taken from you, you'll never know what it is to hit a valley so deep that you can't see a way
Starting point is 00:55:35 out. So deep that you can't imagine ever seeing a lie again. But because of so many, we've seen points of light. Because of Jamie's light, we've survived. We survived the world without her, thanks to your client, but we've survived. So while we've learned, there's evil in the world, we've also learned so much about the essential goodness of others. And I hope that people will take a lesson
Starting point is 00:56:02 from the way Jamie lived. It's easy to trust less. It's easy to be suspicious. It's easy to not take people face value. And because of your client, I've done a lot of that, Mr. Arbor. But I think the lesson that Jamie would want us all to know is that we should still be open to the essential goodness of so many. Jamie lost her life not because she was Jamie lost her life not because she was too trusting or too open. She lost her life because John Brawl is evil. And we lock our doors at night to keep the outside world, to keep evil out. But what happens when evil has a key?
Starting point is 00:56:40 You can't prepare for that. John, you tried, you killed her. You tried to kill me, but you can't kill her spirit. You can't kill what it was that made her so special. You can't cut her spirit out that knife. And you couldn't stop her love for you if you tried. For the first green murder of Jamie Han with deliberation,
Starting point is 00:57:05 premeditation and malice, I order you incarcerated for the remainder of your life without the possibility of parole. For the attempted first degree murder of nation Han with deliberation, premeditation and malice, I order you incarcerated for a period of 157 months minimum, 201 months maximum in the custody of division of adult corrections. For the offense of assault with the deadly weapon,
Starting point is 00:57:35 with the intent to kill, inflicting serious injury, I order you incarcerated for a period of 73 months minimum, 100 months maximum in the division of adult corrections. Each of these judgments are entered separately, and each of these senses would be served consecutively. Jonathan Boyhill was given life without parole. But that life sentence pales in comparison to the lifetime of suffering that he inflicted
Starting point is 00:58:03 on Jamie's family and friends. In 2015, the Jamie Kirk Han Foundation was founded to, in their words, create an active and diverse network of emerging leaders equipped to change their communities, an army of Jamie's. Guided by Jamie's values of love, humility, and public service, the Jamie Kirk Han Foundation seeks to address some of the biggest challenges faced by the state of North Carolina, including poverty and food insecurity. You can find out more about the foundation at jameykirkhonfoundation.org. And with that, we have reached the end of this horrible story.
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