Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - Bonus Episode: Vick Hope

Episode Date: July 29, 2022

We are wrapping up this series of Table Manners with a very special bonus episode thanks to our pals at Sainbury’s. Last week, we hosted a summer soirée in London to celebrate the Taste the Difference summer range. What was not to love? Plenty of picky bits, ‘lo-fi dining’, a generous amount of rosé, a very loud - and well read and opinionated - audience & the wonderful Vick Hope as our guest. It was a total hoot, we loved listening to Vick talk about food and books and it felt like a very special summer evening. We’re off to enjoy our holidays and will be back in the autumn for a new series. Thanks to all our listeners for being the best, have a fabulous summer darlings X Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to this very special episode with Sainsbury's Taste the Difference. It's our very special summer soiree episode of Table Winners, brought to listeners in partnership with Sainsbury's Taste the Difference. Darling, I'm so excited because it's been so hot this week, I haven't wanted to cook. And this is a whole range of food that I don't have to cook anything and it's absolutely delicious. We've got like coronation chicken crisps, we've got gin infused olives, ploughman's quiche, it's really tasty. The whip feta. You didn't whip it did you darling? I didn't, I didn't whip it real good, no I didn't. But it's really lovely. We're in Spring Studios.

There's beautiful flowers. It's a real event. And this gorgeous, airy room. It's like a wedding. Yeah. And we've got 150 guests that have paid £10 each to donate to Fair Share. All for a good cause. What could be better?

And we've got a fantastic guest. For a summer soiree. I know. This is the best. It's going to go on the social calendar, I think. Oh, yeah fantastic guest. For a summer soiree. I know. This is the best. It's going to go on the social calendar, I think. Oh, yeah. Sainsbury's Summer Soiree, Henley Regatta, Wimbledon. Wow. Hi, rai. Dwi ddim yn gwybod a yw'r ystafell... O, mae rhywun wedi bod ar y Taster Difference Rose, yn y bryd cyntaf. Sut ydych chi?

Felly... Felly ydw i. Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai sgwylion da? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai sgwylion da? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai sgwylion da? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai sgwylion da? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau?

Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi wedi mwynhau rhai niblau? Ydych chi'n gweld hynny? A oedd unrhyw un arall yn ei sylweddoli? Dwi ddim yn sylweddoli hynny. Rwy'n hoffi hynny. Gwylio at y deithiau. Rydym yn y stiwdio'r brosiect. Mae hyn yn ffynol.

Nid yw'n dda i'r llaw, ond mae'n wych. Mae'r llaw yn fawr iawn, ac byddwn ni i gyd yn sgwyddo. Felly diolch am fod yn yma. Diolch am roi'ch arian i Fair Share. Mae'n achos mor dda. Felly ie, rydyn ni'n hoffi eich bod yn yma. A ydym ni'n gallu mynd i lawr i Table Manners Live? Ie. I dda iawn, felly rydyn ni'n hapus iawn i chi fod yma. A fyddem ni'n mynd i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael age are you? And told me that you preferred my hair shorter. You're not a hairdresser.

There was a... Okay, you do look like a very mouthy hairdresser. You're mouthy. I think she was in Manchester or Birmingham. You're Northern Irish? No, just Northern. Okay, fine. Where are you from? Scotland. Scotland. Okay, should we

tell you about the Scots that we had in Edinburgh? Oh, wow. Drunk. Drunk. Drunk. Drunk. That's you. Fabulous. Great.

Anyway, look, we're here and we have... I haven't actually looked at all the food. I've been eating so many gin-infused olives backstage. They are delicious. Delicious. And there's like a peppercorn, pink peppercorn in there or something. Do you think that's what's maybe a bit sussy? Well, everyone's? You all agree

this is kind of like a book club slash Tupperware party. I don't know, we can all discuss what we loved and what we loved more on the table today. Okay, what else have we got? We've got orange sultana and blossom honey

scones with clotted cream and buttermilk. We've got the ploughman's quiche, darling. The ploughman's quiche. Has anybody tried it? What was it like? We think. There's thumbs up. Oh, my gosh, I'm going to try that. Barber's cheddar and pickle with balsamic baby onions

and sun-stoked tomatoes. Delicious, fabulous. Oh, whipped feta and mint dip. Oh, my, Sainsbury's are doing a whipped feta, everybody. Yeah. Love it. Love it. You like whips, darling, don't you?

I do like whips, Mum. If anybody's been to my latest show, I like a whip. I have to say, I'm really understanding our audience. And it is really great and fun. And I like it a lot. It isn't just at my shows. This is carrying over. And I like it.

So, Mum. What, darling? How's your day been? Well, it's been okay, darling. Got my nails done. Forgot to eat dinner. Oh, forgot to eat lunch. Didn't have lunch, which has made me quite...

A bit zhuzhy. Yeah, yeah, a bit zhuzhy. Yeah, yeah. And now I've had a nice day. We have been deciding about what we're going to cook for up-and-coming guests that we're starting to do before we go off on hauls. And it's a back-and-forth.

Maybe we should do this. Do you know what this is called? It's called lo-fi dining. Does anyone else like a lo-fi dining situation? Yes, hands upch yn ôl. Rwy'n hefyd. Dwi ddim yn gwybod a yw unrhyw un arall yn gwylio Ymddiriedolion Gwladau Bebili.

Maen nhw'n hoffi dynu Lofi. Maen nhw'n hoffi bwrdd bwyd. Mae Dory wedi bod yno a siarad am rywbeth. Ydych chi'n cytuno? Ie. Gwladwch ymlaen a gallaf roi'r mic i chi. Os yw'n ddefnyddiol. Iawn. Beth yw eich enw? A phwy sydd gennych chi? Do you agree? Stand up and I may give you the mic if it's worthwhile. Right, what's your name and where do you come from?

I'm Sam, I'm from Surbiton. Hello, Sam from Surbiton! So, talk to me about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I have so many things to say, I'm a major fan. But I just feel like the only one who ever cooks is Kyle and she doesn't cook well. Like, it's always the same salmon. Like, every single series. Rwy'n teimlo bod y unig un sy'n coe'r peth yw Kyle ac nid yw hi'n coe'n dda. Mae'n bob un fath o fwyd, pob un o'r gyrff. Kyle? Ie, ac fe wnaeth hi'r lasagne. Dwi'n gwneud hynny.

Roeddwn i'n gweld hi'n gwneud dîn i'r dîn i'r Rwys, roeddwn i'n gwneud dîn i'r Thanksgiving. Doedd hi ddim yn cogi. Doedd hi ddim yn cogi. Nid yw Kyle fynd. Mae Mauricio'n cael the munchies all the time because he's stoned all the time. That turkey was cooked by the time we saw it, though. You're right.

We didn't see her cook the turkey. And then you just basted it really stoned. We saw her cook the salmon and PK was already after his mayonnaise. PK, to be discussed. Yeah, PK. But yeah, the lo-fi dining they do it so I feel like this travels well but who wants to cook in the heat

but you still want your friends round get your feet in the paddling pool get the wine out the rosé eat some of this delicious food what am I drinking here Sainsbury's that's not true the Scot has already tried who's on the Sainsbury's

Yeah, thank you Come on, you're empty too So, you know the drill You bloody bought the tickets Come on, come on So listen, we've got a guest tonight We can get another bottle, can't we? She's already on the rosé

Just fucking take the bottle. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Just take it. Don't give it to her. So, Mum, do you want to introduce this guest,

who's already on the rose. It didn't take long to persuade her. I was trying to be professional and be on the rhubarb and tonic water deliciousness with edible flowers. But no, this one's a party girl. I think people are going to be so excited when they meet her I'm not sure what language she'll speak when she comes on she speaks three languages you'll have

seen her and listened to her on the radio you might have seen her on Strictly. She is intelligent, beautiful. Beautiful. Played my song on Radio 1 yesterday. Thank God. We appreciate that. We have Vic Hope. Hi! Come and sit, Vic.

I love it. I know, look at the dress. Gorgeous. I love it. I know, look at the dress. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. It's so beautiful in here. I know, it is gorgeous. Oh my gosh, look at the flowers. Look at the food.

Look at the windows and the lights. Can we talk about the fact that I thought I worked hard, but no, Vic Hope has trumped me. Tell me about your day, Vic. I had three hours sleep last night. Why did you have three hours sleep but no, Vic Hope has trumped me. Tell me about your day, Vic. I had three hours sleep last night. Why did you have three hours sleep last night, Vic? Oh, but this is not work. I went to a party, and then I went to another party,

and I drank some picantes. Oh, the devil. And I went to bed at three, and I got up at six. And what were you doing at six? I was filming. I'm doing a show. Are we allowed to talk about it? Yeah, yeah, we to talk about it? Yeah, I'm doing a show where I

join women on a journey of self-love as they rewind the procedures that they might have had done, so cosmetic procedures dissolving their filler and it's a really beautiful, warm, positive show about learning your own self-worth

How's that? I was hung over but it made it even more emotional this morning. So we filmed that and then I went and did the radio, did radio one, did drive time and then got a motorbike here. A motorbike? Yeah because you can weave through this. And then you were waiting about an hour backstage. It's quicker, you can weave through the traffic and I love it, it's so exhilarating. And you feel like Michelle Pfeiffer in Grease 2, and you can say, I need a coupe. Does anybody remember that one?

Yeah. It was about the best thing in Grease 2, wasn't it? Hang on a minute. We've just had somebody in the audience say they like Grease 2 instead of Grease 1. OK, I don't know, I'm going to have to give you the mic to explain yourself. Sorry, I just slipped out.

I know. It's a bit controversial. You were passionate. I do genuinely enjoy it more than number one. I like the music. Beauty School Dropout. Is that one in there? No.

That's one. Yeah. What's it got? I'm going to school tonight. Yeah, that one. That one. Reproduction. Exactly.sgol. Ie, yna. Yn ystod ysgol. Ie, mae hynny'n dda.

Rhy-production. Rhy-production. Ie. Ie, mae hynny'n ddynol. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie.

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Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ie. now on zero sleep drink oh i need that wine oh no it's gone get us some wine please um so and what's tomorrow looking like vic i've got a day off oh my god stop yeah i'm oh i sound so fancy i'm gonna have a facial yeah nice also i'm gonna see my friend rosie who moved to boston before the pandemic and i've not seen her since it's been it's been years and she's had a baby in that time so I'm going to meet Zaheer for the first time he's already one year old so what are you going to eat ah are you going out with the one year old we're going to go you know Clissold Park in East London we're sort of so Newington way yeah so I think maybe maybe somewhere around there I don't know if you've got any recommendations. Yeah, I have. Go on then, Jess.

I have loads. Jess, you always have a recommendation for food. What time are you meeting? About two. Okay, check. Esther's Coffee Place. Perfect. It's the best, and they always have kids in there, and it's got the most delicious food,

and it was right near my daughter's nursery when we used to live there. Esther's is amazing. What else? Actually, Alice, our producer. Good Egg is good. Good Egg. Good Egg. Yeah, but there's always a is amazing. What else? Actually, Alice, our producer. Good Egg is good. Good Egg. Good Egg. Yeah, but there's always a bloody queue. What about the Topaz Cafe?

Testy. Testy. Okay. Testy, you like a little Testy? Oh, thank you so much, guys. This is our community. Innuendo Central. So, Vic, you know the drill with table manners. Yes. we're going to ask you about

you know your first well one of your most personal I've got to ask one big question how many palmos did you used to eat oh so I grew up in Newcastle yeah you know what we we had a lot of stottie cakes which is like the the big bread sort of roll fill that with peas pudding which is a very Geordie. Cheryl was on the podcast and she loved it. Palmo was slightly more Middlesbrough. Oh. Yeah.

And I only went there twice. Have you ever eaten one there? No, I've actually not. Should I be calling Newcastle, Newcastle? So people sometimes get in touch on the radio and say I'm saying it wrong. I'm like, no, no, no, I'm from there. Yes, you are.

I'm from there. And I know plenty of people who went to my school who say Newcastle, Newcastle, Newcastle as well. I don't think there is a right way of saying it, but I've always said Newcastle. Which football team do you support? Newcastle. Newcastle. Yeah. You know what?

We went to Sam Fender the other night in Findry Park. Did anybody else go to Sam Fender? Did anyone else go? Yeah. How good was it? It was amazing. It was so euphoric. It felt just rhapsodic and I bought these tickets.

I've got three brothers. I bought them all tickets for Christmas to go and see him because everyone in Newcastle is so proud. He's so lovely. So proud. It feels like it is. It's one of our own and he's done so well and he doesn't sing about love that much. He sings about his hometown. He sings love that much. He sings about his hometown. He sings about growing up.

He sings about what it meant to be a boy in this place. So it's very relatable. And we all wore Andy Castle shirts and there were so many Geordies. Everywhere you looked, I've never been in London and seen so many Geordies. It's like the friendliest London's ever been.

Oh, it was the best. And they get every sort of five minutes, it would just break into toon, toon, black white army just break into toon toon black white army toon toon black white army. It's the best feeling in the world. I cried. I cried because I felt so proud

and so happy and so full of this spirit. And you were with your parents? Oh, I was with my brothers. Okay, but let's talk about your parents at Glastonbury, shall we? And also let's talk about your mother and Diana Ross. Please, take it away. Okay, so I was at Glastonbury. I was working at Glastonbury, shall we? Also, let's talk about your mother and Diana Ross.

Please, take it away. Okay. So I was at Glastonbury. I was working at Glastonbury for Radio 1 and doing a show 10am till 1pm in the mornings. So it would be great to then spend the rest of the day having a nice time. My mum had bought me tickets to see Diana Ross.

Anyone go to Diana Ross? Woo! Did you go to the O2? At Glastonbury. At Glastonbury. Yeah, yeah, okay, cool. Now, see, that go to the O2? At Glastonbury Yeah, yeah, okay, cool Now see, that makes sense when you're already at Glastonbury My mum bought me tickets to see Diana Ross

at the O2 on the Friday night and she was insistent She was like, you have to come back from Glastonbury to go to this gig I got these tickets for your birthday So I did my job Left the site Got a train back to London

so I could see Diana Ross, then came back to Glastonbury the next morning. She's a really good daughter. 5am I had to get in a car, there was a train strike as well, and brought my mum with me because she was like, I'd love to come to Glastonbury. Yeah, I would have loved to have come as well. I'm so sorry, Jessie. Sorry. No, don't worry.

I brought my mum. And we saw Diana Ross at Glastonbury. You went again? Again. Oh, my God. Did she do the same songs? It was the same set. Oh, my God.

She's not... She's 78. She's not preparing two different shows. I mean, I thought she was great. But my mum and dad both came. My dad actually went down on the Thursday. He was like, I'm not coming to Diana Ross with you guys because she's performing at Glastonbury.

So I don't need to go. Yeah, so it's cool. So he came down on Thursday, set up camp on his own. I love that. In a tent. In a tent. Oh, my God. He went to, you know what?

What area was he in, in the tent? He was in the artist area. I think that's fair enough. I think that's fair enough. Pulled a few strings. Yeah. But honestly, it gave me so much hope. They've got to this age where part of me worries that, you know,

they'll just settle down and not do anything because the pandemic really made them go into themselves. They haven't travelled for so long. But they took this opportunity by the horns and they went for it. He was watching everyone. He was sending us video messages from Sam Fender. He saw Billie Eilish. When me and mum

joined him he um he got really into what he's calling banger boy it's burner boy we went to see burner boy and it was the I think the best performance of Glastonbury I didn't see I didn't get yeah no it's fine it's okay there was an important clash I understand it to be the second best performance of Glastonbury. But for my mum to see a Nigerian artist, I was brought up on Afrobeat. I was brought up on Felakuti. So to see this artist doing Afrobeat

and doing it how Fela used to do it, with the dancers, the singers, the drums, and enjoying himself, seeing African culture, Nigerian culture specifically, on that stage in front of all these people, my mum's heart was singing. Aww. And they, you know, they watched Kendrick Lamar, they wanted to stay up for the Calvin Harris show, and that was at 1am in Arcadia.

So I left them to it for a little bit. And then I lost them and I was like, guys, we're going to have to go, trying to message them, getting their reply. Yeah, yeah. I got a message from someone else saying, I found your parents. They are fast asleep in the VIP bar by the fire. They'd found a fireplace in a VIP bar and they were just curled up next to each other sleeping. And we woke them up and they were like, we're ready for Calvin Harris, let's go. And they found love in a hopeless place.

They loved it. Oh, I love that. Let's talk about your Nigerian heritage and about, well, lockdown. Food. Well, and food. Tell us about what happened in lockdown that you did with your mum. So I grew up eating okra soup and stew and pepper soup. And we went to Nigeria every three years like half my family is

still there I have a connection with my heritage and with my culture but I can't cook um the food I've never learned and it's really bad because I should have done by this point my brother Louis um he's the oldest of the three he's amazing in the kitchen he can cook any dish and for whatever reason I think I was I was super studious and I was very like head of my books and I just let's talk uh was it Oxford Cambridge Cambridge which is coming dead handy for chatting about Justin Bieber on the radio three languages you speak um yeah French Spanish and Portuguese and English like more or less yeah amazing carry on I didn't I didn't put in the effort in the kitchen and I kind of wish I did so over the lockdown mum started doing these Nigerian um cooking master

classes on zoom so me and my three brothers Louis was in London Theo was in Australia he was trapped there for a bit and then he came over and he was in Sheffield and then Gabe was in Manchester and then later Liverpool so we're all in different places she's in Newcastle and we would cook together she'd send us at the beginning of the week all the ingredients we needed so week one okra soup week two jell-o fries week three pepper soup all the ingredients we needed and I live in East London so Ridley Road Market everything's available and then she'd talk us through it we'd all cook it together and then we'd all eat it together we'd be eating the same thing.

And now I can make all of these dishes. But a lot of them are, you know, big pots. And I was living alone at the time. Did you have a big freezer? I've got this freezer and it's still full. Of jello fries. Of batches of jello fries that I made during the lockdown that I had no one to feed it to.

How brightly coloured is your jello fries? It's pretty orange. Yeah, pretty orange. Is that seen as the best way to do it, if it's very orange or just slightly tinged? Oh, I think so, because I've got Ghanaian friends who will argue that their Jell-O fries is the real Jell-O fries. It's just a bit of bantz in there. It's a bit of bantz, yeah.

It's the best bantz you can write. I'm Nigerian. Oh, wow. No, let's give you the mic, ie. Yn y danse, ie. Yn y danse, ie. Mae'r rhaid i chi roi'r mic. Gallwch chi ddod i fyny. Mae'n wych. Mae'n wych.

Mae'n wych. Beth yw'ch enw? Oni, o Manchester. Dweud wrthym am eich rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rhaid i'r rha Tell us about your jollof rice. Yeah, so Nigerian jollof rice is made with the, I think it's the whole grain rice? Long grain, yeah. Long grain, yeah, not whole grain. And then the Ghanaian is made with basmati rice. Oh my God, is that the difference? Yes.

That's the only difference? That's the only difference. And what do you prefer, your way or their way? I love the Nigerian one. I don't think I've tasted the Ghanaian one, actually. But I love the Nigerian one. Jollof think I've tasted the Ghanaian one, actually. But I love the Nigerian one. Jollof rice is good. It is.

Anyway. Thank you very much. So what's a really memorable dish from your childhood that was on the table? Okra soup was probably my favourite. Did you like it? Were you picky? I don't remember. Oh, no.

I'll put anything in my mouth. I honestly would eat anything. I've never had a food that I've been picky about. So my mum grew up during a war and she grew up starving, getting food from the British Red Cross, running away from air raids. She appreciates every last grain of rice on the plate

and she taught us to do the same so it's never it's just never been a thing in our household to be picky or to not like any food um but I think yeah I think I don't remember a time not enjoying okra soup and it not being my favorite thing and it not being the thing that I would ask my mum to make if she gave us the choice um and I don't know if anyone knows, it's sort of like a stew, but you eat it with either gary or ground rice or pounded, yeah, pounded cassava. And you just, you don't use a spoon or anything, you dip it in.

And it can be made with any sorts of meats. We often use mutton, oxtail. There's usually lots of offal in there, some gizzards maybe. And then lots of okra, a bit of spinach. The flavours, it's usually a stockfish base as well and the flavors are just so rich and it's my absolute favorite and it's quite slimy and it's the texture and the taste of home um so yeah i i every time i go home to newcastle there's a feeling when you go back home and i'm sure anyone who has moved and is living in a different city knows this

when you come over the bridge for us in newcast, you go over the bridge and you can see the time bridge, you just get this feeling in your stomach and you step off the train and you take a deep breath and the air tastes different and you know you're home and I know I'm getting some aqua soup when I get home. And that my mum's gonna stroke my head and tell me everything's okay for two days or however long I'm there for

and it's the best feeling in the world. Do you not revert into being like a teenager? Ah yes. Yeah no I know I do. Where did your parents meet? So they say they met. They sound great by the way. There's a fair that comes to Newcastle every year called the Hoppings and they say that they met at the Hoppings at this fair mum mum's best friend was going out with my dad's best friend they went to different schools in Newcastle um she was 16 he was 18 and they were like yeah and we kissed on the big wheel now I've been to the hoppings and I know what happens there and he's not kissing on the big wheel but I don't want to ask too many questions did your did your dad ever cook yeah we um we sort of share things out in the household quite well between us and my dad um is pretty responsible

for things like Yorkshire puddings and roast potatoes things that my mum's like that is English food yeah and you can do it for us fine um our full English breakfast has a Nigerian twist and it always has yeah so we'll have the full English with the bacon, the sausage, and then instead of hash browns, we'd have plantain. And there'd be a bit of chilli and coriander in with the beans, and there'd usually be some kind of, like, salsa or, like, spicy tomato dish on the side as well. It's great.

Are you a fan of hot sauce? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I think it divides the nation, this. Well, no, you're just an absolute pussy. I'm, ie, ie. O, dwi'n meddwl nad yw'n rhannu'r dyniaeth yma. Wel, na, rydych chi'n bwysig yn unig. Dwi'n gallu. Dwi'n bwysig. Pwy fydd yn hoffi sôr hwt? Mae gennym ffrindiau teulu.

O, mydda. Ie. Beth yw'r... Dwi'n ei wneud i chi. Dwi'n ei wneud i chi. Dwi'n ei wneud i chi. Dwi'n ei wneud i chi. Os ydych chi'n ceisio ein sôr hwt, byddwch yn hoffi'r peth.

Ie, mae pawb yn dweud hynny. Peth yw'r peth? Nid yw'r sôr hwt. Nid yw'r sôr hwt. Nid yw'r sôr hwt. Nid yw'r sôr hwt. Nid yw'r sôr hwt. Nid yw'r sôr hwt. Nid yw'r sôr hwt. Nid yw'r sôr hwt. it's not hot sauce no it's called it's called wigawaga chilli sauce

wigawaga chilli sauce try not to think of regga regga sauce which has a very similar name when you think about it ok wigawaga it's my uncle's business

and he makes all sorts he's branched out from sauces into chutneys and chilli oils and we won Taste of the North East 2014 oh wow yeah

and all of the family get involved. My brothers help sell it on the Quayside. My mum helps as well. It's a family business. I love that. Yeah. So do you put it on everything?

On quite a lot of stuff, yeah. Do you feel like you can't... It's that thing I remember, like, my friends used to... I mean, this was Tabasco, but, like, they had to bring out a hot sauce. Is that you? A hot sauce in the... Hold on a minute. You've got key rings.

What are in your key rings? With hot sauce. So you go out for a Sunday roast, and you have a key ring, both of you. I think the brand is, like, the Sriracha key ring, but we use the Aunt May's. It's, like, Bajan, so Barb, Scotch bonnet hot sauce that we take. We go in East London for a roast and we take a key ring for sriracha, but we use ant maize.

Yeah, fine. Or in Kona. Yeah. Hot pepper sauce. Our friends are normally horrified. But we literally... Maybe I can just have a little bit. And then they're like, maybe you can have more.

But now you've done it. Don't judge it until you try it. If you just have a traditional British Sunday roast, drizzle a little bit of hot sauce. And it works. Have you got your key ring on you now? Key ring. I mean, I've got a tiny little embarrassing bag with me tonight.

Like a jacquemus or something. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But when I've got my toddler with me, it's usually in the toddler's little change bag. It's not Sudocrem or any of the bum creams. It's hot sauce.

But yeah, we do. We bring it out on our key rings. Does anybody else have something that they have to go, hold on, you think you're thinking about speaking and you just went like that so now speak. Come on. What's your name? Amber.

Hi, Amber. Hiya. What do you bring out? Yeah, hot pepper sauce is definitely the one. But I'm half Jamaican, so I have to put hot pepper sauce on everything. Especially eggs. Like an eggplant in sandwich

with hard-oat bread and hot sauce is one. That sounds good. Especially when you're a bit hungover as well. So it's all that boozing. It just wakes you up, yeah? A bit. Yeah, some kind of hot sauce, I suppose. It's good to know.

I want to know about your TV show that you do on ITV. Oh, yeah. Because you're a big reader. So I want to know whether you have a book club outside of your telly. Do you have a book club? And is this the kind of lo-fi dining that you would do? I think this would be good for a book club.

I think this would be perfect for a book club. Because you don't have to put any energy into thinking about what you're cooking. It's all delicious. And you've got it all here. So do you have a book club? I don't have a book club and I should have a book club because I love reading.

Maybe we should set... Do you want to do it? Shall we? Have you read Sorrow and Bliss? Yes! Oh, it's my best book. Oh, my God. Who's read it?

We already want to. Who's read Sorrow and Bliss? Oh, my God. I just... It's really good. Did you love it? I'm halfway through. The Sister.

Oh, it's good. I love The Sister. Oh, it's good. I love The Sister. So, yeah, what's been your latest, like, favourite read? Oh, my gosh, Sorrow and Bliss. It destroys and then it restores you. So it was nominated for the Women's Prize for Fiction. It was shortlisted this year. And you were host, you were judge.

I was a judge last year and I host the podcast, the Women's Prize for Fiction podcast at the moment. But being a judge, I read, it was 74 books in five months. Oh, my God. It's like being back at Cambridge. That's one book for me in five months at the minute. Which is normal, I would say. But it was a lockdown.

So actually, I wouldn't do anything else. It was ideal. Did you come across some absolute gems? I did. ac fe wnes i ddim gwneud unrhyw beth arall. Roedd yn ideol. Felly, wnesch chi ddod o hyd i rhai gemau gwirioneddol? Roeddwn i'n teimlo'n ddiolch iawn i allu sgwyddo i lawer o wladau gwahanol pan nad allwn ni gadael ein chwar ddyluniau. Ac fe wnes i agor fy ngwylion hefyd, oherwydd mae'n rhaid i chi ddarllen y cyflwyniadau hyn. Rwy'n dweud, mae rhai pobl yn sgwyddo eu lluniau

ac fe wnes i feddwl, os ydych chi eisiau ysgrifennu llyfr, ysgrifennwch llyfr. Ie, rwy'n gwybod. Ysgrifennwch llyfr. Nid. Roedd yn wych, oherwydd rwyf wedi darllen genreau yr ydw i ddim yn amlwg o ddod â nhw. Dydw i ddim yn amlwg o ddod â thriller. Yn fawr, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, Before was great. Oh, I know, The Girl Before. The one about the man goes into the flat and the girl who lived there before, the whole thriller thing. It's on BBC,

darling. Yeah. I want to know, if you were on a desert island, you're being banished for six months, you've got to take your best... What would you have before you're going? Anything. Anything you want, because you're going to be away for six months.

You don't know what... We're talking about a meal, Mum. Yes. What do you mean, darling? You just said anything. Yeah, food-wise. OK. I actually was not going to say anything.

Good God, where's your mind going? We've just gone from books to... OK. We're talking about food, darling. I was just trying to redirect the question. Anyway, have you just changed the format to the podcast? Maybe. No, I haven't.

No, you're going on the desert. We decided not Death Road, didn't we? So pre-going to the desert island. Oh, my last meal. Yeah, your last meal. That's what I'm saying. Did everyone else understand? Yeah. I was going to bech. Diolch. Dyna beth rwy'n ei ddweud! Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall?

Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall?

Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall?

Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny'n deall? Yn y cyfan arall, yw hynny I do. So for drink, it wouldn't be those picantes from last night, would it? It wouldn't be, but... But after a couple of these rosé wines... I know! Taste the difference, Cote de Provence. I know, this is good. It's delicious. Back on it, it's 10am somewhere.

My drink of choice is usually a red wine because it always reminds me why I like alcohol, even if I've forgotten. But actually, I have really been enjoying margaritas recently. I just take tequila drinks in general. Tequila cocktails. Yeah. And especially a spicy margarita. So if we're going to stick a little bit of chili in there, maybe some coriander.

So a picante. Actually, she's just a picante. Ychydig o chili yno, efallai rhywbeth o coriandr. Felly, peccant? Yn wir, mae hi'n peccant. Sut mae hynny'n wahanol o'r peccant? Mae'n peccant, rwy'n ei hoffi! Mae'n ychydig o bach! Rwy'n hoffi peccant. Ydych chi'n ychydig o bach? Pwy sy'n ei ofyn?

Peth! Rwy'n ychydig o bach. Iawn, felly mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Mae'n bach. Okay, so it's a spicy, let's call it a spicy margarita. Spicy margarita. It's a hot margarita.

And then for, first of all, ceviche. Nice. Yeah. Have you had a really memorable ceviche? Yeah, I used to live in Argentina, used to live in Buenos Aires, and I was writing for a newspaper out there. And I had a pass that made it look like I was a food critic for a while. Because I once reviewed a restaurant, but I kept the pass.

And I reviewed, in adverted commas, quite a lot of restaurants over the year that I lived there. None of those articles got written. But I took myself, because it wasn't real, they weren't real reviews. I love Arlington. I love it. I love Buenos Aires. It's one of my best places well it's just magical I really think maybe we should put up on Instagram your tango lesson that you know we should not I just she was very where did you go what did you do so my son was over there he was doing a little trip around my son was over there. He was doing a little trip round. My son, the doctor.

So he was travelling, and it was his 30th birthday, so I flew into Buenos Aires, which I think is probably one of the most beautiful places on earth. And Alex, for my birthday, had organised a tango lesson, which didn't go that well. How did it go? What happened? Because the man that was trying to teach me, the man

has to lead. He said to me, I can tell you don't like being led. And you have to succumb really. No, that's true. But I just think the food there was fantastic, except they have their steak too well done.

They don't know about a rare steak in Argentina. I had a lot of blue steaks. Did you ask them? Yeah. And they looked at you in a strange way, like, are you a bit odd here? How many empanadas did you eat? Oh, so many empanadas.

The best thing on earth. Chilean empanadas. Oh, so it's... What did you say? Get the mic on this. You're from Chile? I'm going to Chile very soon. Chile!

Are you going to be there? Are you going to be there? Yes! Chile empanadas. Stand up. What's your name? Oscar. Hi, Oscar.

That's not very Spanish, Oscar. Oscar Barrera. It is... With a lot of R's. name? Oscar. Hi Oscar. Hello Spanish Oscar. Oscar Barrera. With a lot of R's. It's awful. Okay, and you think empanadas in Chile are better? Why? Oh my god. Sorry, but in Argentina they use mincemeat and they don't use a lot of spices instead. In Chile we use like we cut the onions like in brunoise squares and it's really juicy and we use cumin and paprika and oregano so it's way tastier.

If only we knew. If only we knew. If only we knew. I wouldn't have forget Buenos Aires. Forget Buenos Aires. Go to Chile. And we have a really good ceviche. Chilean ceviche and Peruvian ceviche. Ceviche. My favourite ceviche is Peruvian. And Chilean. And Chilean.

Of course Chilean. But I'd never tried ceviche before. And I had no money when I was there. I was a student. It was my third year of uni. You go and do a year abroad to go and get fluent. I was working student. It was my third year of uni. You go and do a year abroad to go and get fluent. I was working for this paper. And yeah, I ate for free in some fancy restaurants

by pretending that I was reviewing them. And that's where I... Well done for you. You've got to make a living somehow. You've got to get by. And that's where I discovered Peruvian food. I'd never tried it before. It's really good.

Peruvian food is really, really good. When I was there... You got ill. I did. I was at McDonald's in Leeds. You ate a ham sandwich in the airport. It was a McDonald's, Mum. The next thing I got...

You know the gap here? Telephone call. Don't worry, Mum. I'm in hospital. Oh. Why, Jessie? I ate a ham sandwich. Nice Jewish girl, of course. Ate a ham sandwich Nice Jewish girl of course

Ate a ham sandwich Got food poisoning Was throwing up at check-in They wouldn't let her on the plane It was pretty awful But anyway, sorry I feel like we've just brought it down a level We've brought it down a whole level

We're talking about fabulous ceviche And empanadas And the thing with the steak in Argentina Is that it can get a little... They have a little thing with the meat, how they raise the cow. You're not a fan of Argentina. They don't serve it really rare.

Oh, shit! What do you mean they have a thing with the meat? They don't like to serve it very blue or rare because they have a thing with the meat. No, they don't, I agree with you. They don't, yeah, they cook it all. Is it the quality of those? This is real debate going on because Vic says that she has blue.

But I have to say Buenos Aires is the most beautiful city. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's really, really beautiful. Are you going there Jess? You're really going to enjoy Buenos Aires but you're going to have fun in Chile. Okay. So back to your last meal. So we've got a ceviche from Argentina. No, it would be a Peruvian ceviche, yeah. Sorry, Oscar.

Or Chilean. Chilean ceviche. And empanadas. Yeah, and I'm like... Oh, definitely spicy empanadas. And like lomo saltado. I love that. I love all the spices and the flavours. And I also got introduced to Japanese-Peruvian fusion while I was there,

which is incredible because there's loads of the same flavours, like lots of zesty citrus fruits, lots of sort of corianders, very fresh, and then lots of, sorry? Nikkei. Nikkei. That's the name. Oh, is it? It's called Nikkei.

Nikkei. Nikkei fruit. Nikkei. What, like Nike, but Nikkei. So Nikkei food is fusion, Peruvian and Japanese fusion food. Right. Is there anywhere in the UK or London that you can eat that? Yeah, there's a place in Leighton.

Oh, is there? There's a place in Leighton? Yeah, there's a place that's just open in Leighton. Well, there's one in Deptford that's open that's Filipino and Peruvian. I don't know what that's called. Interesting. Have you been to the Leighton one? No, I really want to go. It's literally just opened the last few weeks. What's it called?

Bamboo Mat. It sounds like laundromat. Well, it works, though, doesn't it? Because you also have a Korean-Mexican fusion quite a lot, like Korean tacos and things. I always think that South American, Latin American flavours and some Japanese and Korean flavours, a lot like korean tacos and things i always think that south american latin american flavors and um some japanese and yeah korean flavors they do and also the fresh fish um element is you know sushi and so we haven't even got to your meal yet so we've got the drink all of this because of the

drink yeah okay so for the main cause i think it would be my mum's my mum's okra soup i think it would have to be it's just special and it's my favorite um although that said oh oh yes please um i'm partial to tapas just because there's so you just get so many different things when i went on saturday kitchen i was like my food i knew i was doing my food heaven was tapas because it meant I got many many dishes many many things so what's your favourite tapas? chorizo or maybe squid maybe some kind of

squid in lots of garlic and butter or the gambas again but loads and loads of garlic and the tortilla and also that, see this is why it works. Yeah. You've got everything.

All of these things. The Tartas Brahma. The Tartas Brahma. Yeah, gorgeous. Where do you go for your tapas in London? So my brother makes the best tapas. Your brother? My brother.

Which one? Gabe, Theo. Or Louis. It's Louis. Louis is the chef. Right from when we were little, we'd go to restaurants, and he'd be a kid, and he would say, can I speak to the chef? No, stop. And he'd be like, byddwn yn mynd i restaurantau. Byddai'n ddyn a byddai'n dweud, "- Alla i siarad â'r bach?" "- Nid, stop."

Ac byddai'n dweud, "- Beth yw'r bwyd yma? Mae'r bwyd yma, dwi ddim yn ei cofio." Ac mae'n cael y dealltwriaeth o'r reacsiyns chemigol sy'n digwydd, o'r gwahanol bwydau a sut maen nhw'n gweithio gyda'i gilydd. Mae'n testio Blumenthal. Mae'n dechrau fel hynny. Beth mae'n ei wneud am y bywyd? Mae'n gweithio mewn recriwtiaeth ariannol. Beth o'n ddysg! Rydym wedi dweud wrtho'i fod yn bach, byddai'n siarad amdano. Financial recruitment. What a waste. We've said to him, be a chef.

He's thought about it for a while. We both worked at restaurants when we were growing up. But he said, it's my hobby and I love it. And I don't want to stop loving it because it's my job. So he, you know, every evening, him and his girlfriend, when I look at her Instagram, it's just a table full of like a feast, whatever it may be. And he's so, so talented.

Once I was like, I was just wandering around Ballon where he lives. And I was like, oh, Louis, whatever it may be. And he's so, so talented. Once I was like, I was just wandering around Ballon where he lives. And I was like, oh, Louis, I'll drop in. And he was like, yeah, sure. I was just cooking some tapas if you want to swing by. And I came and he was just on his own. His girlfriend wasn't even in. And the whole table was full of everything.

Everything from scratch. There was like, the Padron peppers. There was like, there was calamaris that he'd made himself from scratch, chorizo dishes, everything. And I was like, you were just making this. He was like, yeah, I just fancied it. And he's like, if I fancy something, I'm making it.

There and then. I love Louis. What a way to live. So we've got, we've got your, we've got your starter, we've got your main, your red wine. Yeah. Or maybe picante. Or a picante, fine. It had both.

Do you eat puddings? Or a picante, fine. I had both. Do you eat puddings? If there's a menu where you can pick two courses out of starter and main or main and to, I would always start. Me too. But I've had a sweet tooth developing over the last year. I don't know what's changed.

Can I tell you it gets worse? Oh, does it? It has been happening. Just one quarter of chocolate, you say, just after my dinner. It has been happening. Just one quarter of chocolate, you say, just after my dinner. I think, so I had a thing the other day that blew my mind. What was it? It was a pineapple. I've had pineapple before, but it was like, it was a pineapple.

And inside the pineapple, there was baked pineapple, sort of flambéed in some maybe some rum and there was pineapple sorbet made from the pineapple of the pineapple and there was like a creme brulee but it was

pineapple a pineapple within a pineapple within a pineapple all these different types of pineapple 20 ways you weren't sick

of the pineapple 20 ways of pineapple it was honestly where was this this was in Ibiza it was at this restaurant on the beach. I think it was the setting as well,

but it was amazing. So much pineapple. And I recently discovered that pineapples take years to grow, and they just grow one at a time out of their own little plant. They're precious. They're so precious.

I didn't know that. Yeah. Jessie, we've got to treat them with more respect. Okay, sure. So we've got your last supper. Okay, yes. So we've got your last supper. Okay, yes. Can you cook? We've talked a lot about you loving food,

but can you cook? She can. She learnt from her mum over lockdown. She learnt Nigerian cooking. Are you a good cook? What would be your dish that you'd cook for us if we came over? I do love hosting dinner parties.

I missed it so much when we couldn't do it. And then as soon as we could again, that was the first thing. And my friends would generally use my house as the dinner party place. Well, I would usually be the host. What was the first dish that you made post-lockdown when everyone came over to your house? She got her brother to come and cook. Yeah, Louis came over. No, you know what?

I got loads of fresh fish. Loads and loads from... From the market? No, from a fish... Which fishman was he? No, a fisherman. A fisherman? Where's the fisherman from?

There's a fisherman who contacted me on Instagram. You're joking! I think he didn't want you to ask for fish. But I did ask for fish and I caught fish. And honestly, of all the things, you know, all these hashtag sponsor hashtag ads the best thing I've ever been given from Instagram is fish and he would bring it like every two weeks what's his name it was well his company is called Woods Fish

and they they would go out and catch the fish and then come they'd still be in their wellies there's two guys and they'd come to my door every two weeks with like fresh fish were the wellies necessary when they were in London I'm just wondering it was a little bit hendoo do you know what I mean

you've got to get the wellies on and he'd bring me all this fish so when I first had my first dinner party I did lots of prawns like full big king prawns in lots of garlic I did a ceviche myself because the

tuna and the salmon was so fresh that it really just barely needed anything and obviously the citrus fruit would sort of cook it as it does. And what else? There was another time I made some fish tacos using the fresh fish. Yeah, lots of fish

dishes. I think he, yeah, I love that. I'm going to wonder if I can slide into... What was his first name again? I actually never knew his name. I just knew he was... He's a fisherman. He's the fisherman from Wood's Fish. The fisherman.

We're nearly coming to an end of this wonderful summer soiree. Honestly, this has been... Did you say soiree or soiree? Soiree. Sorry, apologies. How would you say it? I've never thought about it.

In French? Soiree. Soiree. Very good. Très bon. Have you got good table manners, Vic? I think... She's not eating anything yet.

Oh, but can I tell you, I was so obsessed when we first came in. I've eaten so many... What did you call these little bad boys? These fat, meaty olives. Fat, meaty olives. There are some fat, meaty olives. I love a fat, meaty olive. Thank you.

I've eaten loads already. I think I've got good table manners. I mean, as I said before, a lot of the food that we've eaten in our household has been with our hands because that's just how you do with a lot of the dishes that my mum cooks that are Nigerian. But I think so.

I don't like when people eat with their mouth open because I don't like the sound of it. So I've always done, I guess. Oh, I know. I'm a very of it. So I've always done, I guess. Oh, I know. I'm a very slow eater. And I think it's, even this olive has been in my fingers for quite a long time and it should have been in my mouth. And I know that around a table,

I'm usually the last one to finish and it's annoying for other people. So maybe, maybe not. Don't go out with Jessie. I'll be on push by the time you put that in your mouth. Before you've even started your olive. I'm slow. That is delicious.

The whipped, the whipped feta and mint was good, right? Have you had it? I just dipped in. Well, I've got feta here. The idea that Alice producer is like, please don't eat a carrot on the podcast because that is just not... I'm allowed to try a little bit? Yeah, dip in. That's the ploughman's cage. Yes. Mum, do you want to ask your important question

that you ask all guests? You're so mean about this. Why am I mean? Look, just because you're a pop star and you sing properly... Do you like karaoke? Mm-hmm. I love karaoke.

Me too. Oh, good. I love it. It's funny. You go into that room and all of a sudden your inhibitions are out the window. Yeah.

You're possessed by this spirit. You become this person that you don't even recognise and it's okay because it's just inside that room and all of a sudden your inhibitions are out the window you're possessed by this spirit you become this person that you don't even recognize and it's okay because it's just inside that room and I do one mega mix and one mega mix only and it is which is the JLo medley the thing is I love JLo me too but she does not say cheers to J-Lo? Oh, yeah, congratulations. J-Lo and Ben. And Ben. I love J-Lo, and I love her songs, but the reason it's so good for karaoke is because she does not have a lot of range. This is no diss, this is no diss,

but it's very easy to sing because the notes are never that high or that low. It's really, really good intel. So what's your best JLo song? I do all of them. I do Jenny from the Block. I do I'm Real, Waiting for Tonight.

No, I can't. She needs some music. Vic Hope, you've been so brilliant, so fascinating. So much to talk about. This could go on forever. Thank you so much

for being on Table Manners live at the St. Potato Differences. Oh my God. Thank you so much for being on Table Manners live at the St. Peter's Taste Addiction. Oh my God. Thank you so, so much for having me. Well, Mum, we've just got off stage. I think that was our best live show we've done, actually. It was such fun.

It was so easy. I don't know that people have been fed and watered beforehand. Well, you certainly had. Yeah. But they were such good fun. Interactive, I would call it. Also, Vic was so interesting. Gorgeous, good fun. Had, like, I mean, I don't know her.

I mean, of course I know her. I listen to her on the radio, but it was so nice to get to know somebody also in front of 150 people that were quite drunk and opinionated. What opinionated guests? I know they were challenging her about her empanadas. I know. I know. I know. I don't think he was right, darling.

I think the empanadas in... Oscar, if you're listening. Yeah. Argentina for empanadas. Nick just walked out of here and said, Oscar's got it completely wrong about the Chilean empanadas. But thank you so much to Sainsbury's for putting on this gorgeous evening. And it's got... Sainsbury's Taste the Difference has got everything you need

from picnics to summer barbecues. I think people should go out and have a go it was really really good fun we it was completely effortless we didn't have to stress about the food or the chicken soup that you'd have to bring from your your house miles it was really really gorgeous just how every soiree should be in the summer yeah just effortless it's given me ideas that maybe i'm going to pull back on some of the recipes that I'm doing for my barbecue at the weekend and maybe just bring in some of that whipped feta. Actually, you know what, Soddy?

The whipped feta and the olives are coming to the barbecue at the weekend. Definitely. Delicious. We've had a gorgeous time. We're off the air for a while, but we will be back in the autumn for a new series. But thank you. With fabulous guests. In the meantime, we'll see you soon.

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