Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - Ep 5: Benny Blanco

Episode Date: December 6, 2017

This week’s ep is brought to you from LA with producer Benny Blanco. You may know him from working on tunes with Katy Perry, Ed Sheeran and The Weeknd but we know him from letting our whole family descend on his house whenever we stay in LA. Here’s one small taste of the mad house - featuring my husband Sam, my baby girl and a little bit of California’s finest...  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hi I'm Jessie Ware and this is our podcast Table Manners. I'm here with my mother Lenny. Hi. Mum you're gonna have to do something different. What do you want me to say darling? Just like take over it's like your time. Hi Jessie. You could introduce it. No I don't want to.

Try it just try it for shits and gags. Hi I'm no it sounds so peculiar. Just try. No hi this is Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware's mum, Lenny, and this is... Hi, I'm Jessie Ware. Oh, hi. Very good. This week's podcast is with a good, I guess we can call him a family friend, Benny Blanco.

And we were very sad to miss you on this one, mum. Yeah, I was sad to miss you on this one mum. Yeah I was sad to miss it I love Benny he's so interested in food and he's got so much to say and he's very funny and he's very warm and lovely I really enjoyed when he came here for lunch. Talks about willies too much though. Yeah he does I'll never forget sitting doing a conference a video conference call and the backdrop behind me was a lot of willies. That actually comes up in this podcast so here it is Table Manners with Benny Blanco. I am currently in a den in LA at my brilliant friend Benny Blanco's house. Benny Blanco you may know of as a producer who's made songs for Kesha, Rihanna, Ed Sheeran, The Weeknd, me but he's also a really wonderful friend of mine who always lets me stay

here we don't have mum aware however we do have my husband Sam and my little girl say hi Sam hi guys he's ready are you ready babe yeah I think i'm ready are you ready baby i haven't listened to a show yet it's not quite sure what i'm doing but oh she's giving me a cuddle are you gonna say hello yeah yeah there you go yeah it's a microphone she's hitting the microphone it's not an animal I have to do a salad tonight because Benny's pissed off that I haven't got anything because when we went to the supermarket we got things for the baby and not for this evening

so I'm not really playing the game it's supposed to be my podcast where I host the dinner I think your mum hosts the dinner that's kind of what we're lacking right now, is the Jewish mum part. And my mum's not here. Okay. So I've got Benny to do it instead.

He's the best cook here. He's an incredible cook. He's also quite a controlling cook. We are quite competitive. I think we fell in love with each other through the love of food. It's a very big thing for me and Benny. When he came to London, when he worked on Ed Sheeran's record,

I made sure I had this whole plan of restaurants that he needed to go to. I don't think I impressed him on all of them. Some I got right. However, Benny always has to have the final say, the last word on the best food. He has impeccable taste with food. He's a mean cook. And he likes to do it like that, doesn't he?

I think he'd probably rather you just cook something so he could say how crap it was. Exactly. He's so competitive. You know what he said? So he was like, hey, Jesse, did you get anything? And I was like, um, um, um, shit, I've got one cucumber. I'll make some kind of spicy cucumber salad.

And he went, better be good. I'm keeping my side of the street clean. After the whole Otolenghi comment, I think he's always, always the winner. To be continued, we'll in your kitchen. I'm sorry, you've been roped into basically making the meal and can you tell us what we're having for the Table Manners podcast dinner? Hi, guys.

I'm chopping shallots. Shallots for us Brits. Shallots and basil and oregano. No, just chopping stuff. I really wanted to use the, I have this grill that's called the Big Green Egg, and it's like this whole thing, and I really wanted to... It's a barbecue, isn't it?

Yeah, it's like a smoker, a barbecue. You can grill, you can do this, you can do that on it. Jessie's motioning for Sam to come over slowly so she can take the baby. Oh, this is my favorite part. Guys, we got a live argument going on. Now we're going to go to channel two right now. You didn't. And now you made the baby cry, Jessie.

Look what you did. You're not cooking. You're making the baby cry. Now I can't even remember what I'm fucking making. Oh, shit. Good job, Jessie. Good job, Jesse. So Benny is, the noise of Benny frying off some... We're making some chicken trimmings.

And this is going to be a base sauce stock to go with these... They're like, they're called like tsukune. It's like a Japanese meatball on a skewer. The chicken meatball. Yeah, and you like form it. It's like a it's like a japanese like meatball on a skewer it's like you like yeah and you like form it you want it's like a kebab so basically this is like a kofta like kind of that's exactly fine i'm not a fast cook i'll tell you that but you really enjoy cooking it's like therapeutic for you oh yeah i mean cooking i try to cook a meal every day it's it's i'm an erotic anxious jew so this is like this is like my therapy it's my therapy away from therapy this is table manners i have benny blanco here on the couch finally thank you for doing this

this feels like the most professional i've ever spoken to you and this feels slightly awkward but i do appreciate you doing this yes yes yes yes does this feel weird benny no not at all to me i usually talk with microphones on my couch and people standing all around this is normal you know i just want to take this moment to announce that Jesse just puffed jazz cabbage. It is not weed for wherever this is going. I don't even know where this is going. This is not weed. It's CBD. No.

Hopefully, in a few minutes, Jesse will be less of a neurotic and more of a chill surfer girl from LA that's what I'm hoping for let's see how it pans out shall we the first thing she did was hit it and go is this a blunt

and then she complained about the pinot noir that came up she's like oh yeah I love wine I'll take any that's Jesse she's like oh yeah

whatever you want whatever's easiest I'll sleep in this room what's the thread count on these sheets I'm such a prick this is it right this is what it's basically gonna be a fucking roasting of me right hey man you shouldn't have had me on the show i know too many of your secrets i know so many of yours um so i feel like i need to explain how benny and i met um we met in in New York through our really dear friend, Two Inch Punch.

And Two Inch was like, I'm making really good music with Benny, my friend. You should come over. I flew over basically to meet Benny. Didn't know whether we were going to get on. Basically kind of invited myself over and he kindly let me stay. And then the rest is history.

And I've been staying in your house ever since basically um not just jesse the whole family staying in jesse's house including the mom the sister the baby the dog's not quite arrived yet but yeah but the uh when my mom stayed um it was when our little girl was three months. And much like tonight, lots of people. It's a very relaxed environment. And it would be my mother coming in after looking after my daughter because I'd be in a session. And her handing the baby to Evie, Benny's sister-in-law, and demanding wine.

So it's like I'm turned into my mother tonight, basically. My favorite thing Jessie's mom did is she, I forget what she works for, but she has to talk to lawyers or she might even be a lawyer. She has to talk to people all the time. And she said, I have to do a very important Skype tomorrow and I need to find a place to do it. And I go, oh, just do it here in the living room. And she goes, okay, okay, cool.

And she's looking to see like the skype to check if it's working and like checking like you know how she's gonna look in it and she looks behind her and she's like she's like i can't do this there's fucking cocks everywhere like there there is there is a six foot painting of about 12 guys holding their dicks looking at a ufo while there's a pyramid in the background yeah there's lots of dicks in this place, Benny. You know, we're very tame. This is a very tame household. Think of Stockholm, Sweden, very white, nothing going on, no color.

Benny, this podcast is about food and family. And I think a lot to do with our friendship in particular is I think we share a love of food, good food. Can't complain there. I think that's probably why we hang out, isn't it? It's more than, it's not really the music. It's definitely because of the food. I hang out with you for the laughs, for the talent, the chart topping hits.

Big in Poland, mate. Can I ask you about growing up? I mean, I know your family and I remember you saying maybe Sandy didn't. Did she cook your mom? Both my parents didn't really cook. My dad pretends he cooked really well. My dad, I thought all salmon tasted like it was left out for like three years and then burnt to a crisp on a grill but apparently that's just how my dad cooks but great people not the greatest cooks so how did you become such a

foodie honestly like it's crazy i didn't have sushi i hated like seafood i hated all the i didn't have sushi till i was 18 years old. The first time I ever had sushi was at Sushi Park. Explain what Sushi Park is. Sushi Park is like, you're walking into like a strip mall and you're like, this is the most disgusting strip mall. And you're walking around and then like you go upstairs next to like a yoga studio and there's like a really small, very understated restaurant. And you get in and it's incredibly amazing food and prepared and courses and you're there for two hours and it's an incredible experience so i go there for the first time

i'd ever had sushi so some people say it's the best sushi in the world some people say it's the best so you set the bar pretty high so i go there i have no idea i go there i'm 18 years old i'm like oh my god i'm like it's amazing. Maybe I do like seafood. Maybe I do like sushi. Because I was always scared. I was like, no, I don't like fishy tastes. I don't like that. So it's not cheap.

It's like, yeah. So I sit in, I start eating. And then I go back to New York and I go, oh man, I'm going to get some sushi. So I just go to the side street. There's just like a deli on the corner of the street and I get sushi. I'm like, oh yeah, I'll take the salmon rolls and the lobster rolls. I eat it. I almost threw up.

I spit it out. I was like, oh my God, I thought all sushi just tasted that good. So, I mean, I guess probably when I started coming to New York for the first time and LA for the first time, I got introduced to, you know, we didn't really have that type of food where we grew up. You know, we had like. Where did type of food where we grew up. You know, we had like. Where did you grow up? I grew up in Virginia.

We had like P.F. Chang's and like Chili's. What's P.F. Chang's? Like Pizza Express type stuff. Okay. And like TGIF Fridays and like chains. Like Maggiano's was like our nice restaurant. What's it? The Olive Garden.

Yeah, of course. Okay. Every, all of that. And I don't know how I became a foodie. You know, just got in situations where people were feeding me delicious food. And I was like, oh, I guess I like this. And then. But you, I think you.

I always like to cook. You love to share food. Me and one of my really good friends, when I first started smoking weed, when I was like 13 or 14, he would like everyone get to his house and we'd start smoking and eating. And then we'd be like, oh, man, what's like the craziest creation we can make? We'd be like cutting baguettes open and putting like putting like cheese on this one with like yuzu and rice vinegar and this and making like disgusting things. But we're so high. We're like, yo, we're like we're fucking emerald. Like we were like just still like, yo, taste this. like in the kitchen would be turned upside down so i guess that's

where i started cooking and my mom always made a good breakfast i will i will what was the breakfast eggs that's it that's just what i go mom are they good eggs they must have been really good eggs i was like i'm like mom what's uh what's for dinner? Oh, we have eggs. And I'm like, all right, mom. Hey, mom, what's for lunch? I have some eggs. It was just always eggs, eggs or almonds. Like my friends, not like my when it was time to bring like, you know, when it was like, at soccer, like, or football, sorry, when you when you would like at halftime when like the moms will bring like the orange slices, the gushers, all the sweets and candy. That's what they do in America. And no one wanted my mom to do it because my mom would bring like organic granola, like hard-boiled eggs, like orange juice. Guess what I'm making? What are you making? The chicken things from...

The Nomi? He bought a grill just to make them for us last weekend. Yeah he bought a... He bought the green... No no he bought a denobin. It's like this Japanese water grill. So fucking loud. Hey man we're just into cooking.

You really are. But you are really into cooking but then there's the simple things that you don't have like i was looking for a pot to do a little bit of porridge a little bit porridge bro we got a pot man you've got fucking you've got fucking the crusade like massive casserole dishes that you have to do your porridge in you grew up in virginia and you started in music quite early. So you moved to New York quite early. You were part of, it was Spank Rock.

Yeah. And you were touring. Yeah. Is that kind of where you also got introduced to like lots of different kinds of food or was all the touring food shite? Honestly, I think like it was just being in New York. Like right when I got to New York, first of all, all I ate was like pizza and like the first, like I didn't eat anything fancy.

Yeah. I remember like someone took me to like a fancy meal and I was like, Oh, I was like, this is pretty good. But never thought, I can't even remember. I remember like, I was like, Whoa, like. But you don't like fancy meals. Yeah. I mean, I will look.

Yeah. Today we went. Yeah. Explain what we did today. Today we went to a place that I really like fancy meals. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, I will. Look, yeah, today we went. Yeah, explain what we did today. Today we went to a place that I really like to eat. It's literally in Compton in a guy's backyard. And you think you're at the wrong address and you see people selling Nikes outside and hot sauces. And you walk through this little area and there's smoke

and there's this gorgeous backyard that this guy created for the community and it's just like an amazing thing and you eat some of the best tacos and it's people who really care and the grandma's making the desserts and the whole family's working there sometimes you're sometimes like the person bringing your your your food is like seven years old like it's like it's amazing no it was great like my daughter was like eating it off the floor yeah it felt like a friend's barbecue it was great i mean it wasn't the closest place to drive for a taco but it's worth it but i think like that's the thing which i'll go i know about you yeah you'll go anywhere for food like you know we were stuck in traffic

and saturday afternoon going to compton we're like for fuck's sake we're going there for fucking tacos but then you sit down and you go, you know what? Drive didn't happen. Yeah. Drive didn't happen. We've got great tacos. Hey, that's why they call you the co-host, right?

Drive didn't happen. Sam, everyone. But I think I've had some of my best food experiences with you, like sushi park you took me to. And then I thought I was the biggest sushi snob after that and I agree like it's phenomenal and places like this Compton place but like yeah you don't love a fancy schmancy place you know it's like this if I gotta get dressed up or eat a certain way for food it better be the best fucking meal of my life like I don't want I don't like walking into

restaurants when you go in and people start looking at you funny and it's like when you sit down food's supposed to be it's supposed to be good it's supposed to be the best thing it's supposed to bring people together there's supposed to be no judgment at all like you're supposed to be able to eat the food if you can pay for the food you eat it that's quite an american thing that's la life and probably new york life i don't really hang out and in new york that much but the vibe i'm getting from going out for dinners of you it's not the same in london what you don't think that london's more stuffy yeah yeah definitely don't rock up to ledbury just in shorts and fucking flip-flops and go yeah yeah but i'm not i'm not taking i'm not taking you to those places they have those

places here but it's like that's what i'm saying i I want to go to those. I want to go to some. No, speaking about being like, you know, having to dress up for somewhere. Can we talk about when you were on the QE? Was it the QE2? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you say this? Yeah, fine. So you were making. Well, you just said it, Jess.

Okay, shit. No, but don't get me wrong, though. I do dress up for, like, if I'm eating at French Laundry or somewhere in, like... French Laundry's in Napa. French Laundry's in Napa. It's one of the best meals I've ever had in my life. It's like an eight-course meal. You sit there.

They're bringing things over that are... And there's, like, you know, and, like... You know, and every once in a while, I'll eat a little molecular gastronomy or whatever. But for me... Oh, but remember when we went to that one, that bit wanky one down the road? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And sometimes sometimes something was supposed to look like a piece

of art it all just sounds a bit like oh yeah it was oh yeah like sometimes you gotta just give it a rest give me the simple really good shit you know you don't have to disguise it you know like alice water she believes in the art of simple cooking you know like five six ingredients and supposed to be the best five or six ingredients you've ever had but you what did you what did you do for um otolenghi what did you cook okay no we have to no we have to explain this story sorry this is quite annoying for people but there's two stories in this firstly that the ed sheeran one when you're on the boat yeah okay first we'll go ed sheeran yeah we'll do that because this is the reason you came to london because you don't fly so basically i don't like to fly like i do not love flying i very very rarely fly i actually flew like two

weeks ago but that's like the first time in years and basically ed sheeran wanted to finish his album and he lives in the countryside and he was like i really want to finish in the countryside i haven't been back to my house in like 10 months i'd love to finish it there and i said no i don't i hate flying i don't want to fly you know i've been on tour with him for two years off and on finishing the album going everywhere i said yeah if we if we take a boat we can go he said all right cool and i was like wait what and he's like yeah cool we'll go on the boat and i was like, wait, what? And he's like, yeah, cool. We'll go on the boat. And I was like, oh, what? I was like, fuck. And I was like, so we went on a boat for seven short days.

And it was crazy. We were like for four of the days, you're sitting in everywhere you look, in every direction is just water. You're sitting in everywhere you look, in every direction is just water. You're Titanic. At one moment, me and Edward lying in bed cuddling, watching Titanic. Like on a boat. We're fucked in the head. So they gave us a studio.

We made a studio. Food wasn't my favorite. Not going to lie. But yeah, people are dressed in ball gowns and tuxedos every night. And everyone's looking at us like we're fucking made of dog shit. Which we were. I mean, we pretty much wore the exact same outfit the entire time. So we did it.

But we built a studio on it. We were making an album. It was incredible. We got to where he lives in the countryside, and it was some of the most beautiful times I've ever had. And it was amazing, you know, being able to experience that. Yeah, yeah, we had great fish and chips down in Suffolk. Was it Albright?

Yeah, I think we went to Albright. Great fish and chips there. So we stayed with Jesse, and Jesse brought us into her house. We had a beautiful time. My favorite, you know, we got to have the best kebabs, the best Jamaican food. You know, Sam gave us the royal tour of all the best spots to eat. Sam knows about the kebab shops.

I'm not about to put on a kebab show. Made Benny very happy. I'll tell you what, it made me really happy. It didn't make my butt super happy, but it made me super duper happy. But I am very proud of Benny as a friend and as a foodie. And the whole premise of this podcast is that, you know, people eat my mom's food. Unfortunately, my mom's not here.

So Benny can't, but he's already eaten my mom's food by coming over when he was in London. I did the whole thing. My mom made a big lunch and we invited people over and I've stalked Otolenghi basically and kind of made him a friend. So I managed to miraculously set up this meal with Otolenghi and Benny. And Benny is a massive Otolenghi fan. Like we've cooked loads of meals with Ottolenghi's books so we had this lunch at my mum's

and I offered him Ottolenghi and Benny had to cook for Ottolenghi we all would bring you a dish and Benny what did everyone had to cook right everyone just wanted to introduce a little

something to the table and Benny was like hey hang about let me do my little crudite salad and he started doing these little croutons all morning and he was frying the croutons first of all everyone decided to cook and because i'd invited otolenghi my mom was really pissed off she's like i have to fucking cook for otolenghi and then she goes like this she goes we can't make anything because all

we do is cook otolenghi she's like we can't make him because all we do is cook our langy. She's like, we can't make him his own recipe. So we're all scrambling. And I go, yeah, I'll put something together. And I'm there thinking, all right, I've got Alex's lemon. We've been planning this shit for ages, Benny. But what did I put? Oh, yeah, I'll rustle it up. When did I decide mine?

In the morning. It was in the morning. But you decided that long before. Don't lie to me. I decided. And I made a nice little salad with some croutons in it. And I'm not going to lie, Yotam liked one thing the most. Tell me, you know.

You know, my good old friend. And it might have been the croutons in the salad. I'm not going to lie. What do you think, Jess? No, he did say, who did those croutons? Those croutons were amazing. And I think he shook Benny's hand and Benny was so

bloody pleased with himself because I did Nigel Slater peaches but actually that was very nice but yeah he loved your croutons

the best I think no it was he didn't try my spaghetti bolognese I didn't but I brought my bolognese you didn't offer that

I just didn't think it really worked with a mix I didn't want to embarrass anyone with a little Heinz ketchup in there, my little secret ingredient. Oh, yeah.

Don't want to ruin the show. No, it was great. A little shredded carrot. Anyway. A little shredded. Sam's behaving like he's on a pirate radio station. A little shredded carrot. A little shredded carrot.

Boop, boop, boop. and i didn't even smoke yeah you know in all in all honesty uh jesse's family everyone's so good at cooking coming together putting a meal together making you feel just at home like you know like you've lived there for a million years you know and um it was such a great it was a beautiful experience it was nice but um yeah is this but there is this competition in the kitchen with you benny and like like this evening no there's not oh you fucking otolenghi love my croutons what are you making tonight i hope you don't let the side down for the side salad that you're making. Can you hear that music?

Yeah, we've got a studio upstairs too. Is that okay? This is the house quiet. Don't worry, there's no one here at the moment. You guys come round. You've got the place to yourselves. I love it. Come round, there's like 12 people here. What do you mean? We're leaving. The house is great like this people here. What do you mean, nah, we're leaving. Benny's, yeah, Benny's going. No, mate, the house is great like this.

This is quiet for you. Benny, what is this leaf that you're chopping? This is called shiso leaf. What is, oh, okay. It's like a Japanese leaf. And what does it taste like? Heaven. It's like one of my favorite things.

Can I try a bit? I love it. It's kind of minty, but like... Yeah, it's like weird. Isn't it so yum? You were saying about how you love simple cooking. There are not only five ingredients in this meal tonight. Can you go through the meal that we're having tonight?

Jessie's just trying to put me on front street like oh like usual like it's all a competition to her um basically i mean i don't even know there's there's like a some sort of like chicken to you nick nuki or whatever it's like this like chicken meatball thing there's like shiso and scallion and breadcrumbs and all this stuff in in the base of it. And it's like ground chicken thigh. And then you make like the sauce that has like the chicken trimmings in it and stuff, and then you drain the sauce, and then you put like egg yolk in it,

and you dip the chicken in after it's been grilled. And then like the other thing we're making is like these like peanut chicken skewers. And you like. The chicken satay. Yeah, the chicken satay. And you put like, it's like you make like this peanut sauce with like really good like lemongrass and peanuts and shallots and jalapenos and fish sauce and all these different like super. Yeah, it's really pungent and really tasty where's the recipe from bro last night i went to an asian-y type one of them is one of them is from

that guy this guy he had this restaurant called cassia it's a really good restaurant he had like someplace called like spice table before i can't remember saying that i didn't sleep all night last night my belly i was so bloated bro? I don't know what it was though. I don't even know if it was that or the beer or whatever. He was bloated. We had a lot of food. Jessie ate about two bites because she was sick four nights before. And then she decided to go out after a gig

and try to think she was 15 again until four in the morning. Because she comes home, she's lying in bed with something. I never wanted to have bed with my baby's sleeping no the baby was wide awake when she got home it was so depressing fell over the bed then turned the lights on then went spark out for four hours while i was reading stories to the baby but um if you weren't a producer would you be a chef really that's what i'd want to be couldn't you do something as well as doing the music would you open a restaurant i mean i'd love to i actually like opening a restaurant's too stressful i want to open something like that backyard yeah street food i want to talk

about your friend who does the barbecue in la because like you like it feels like like look i know you love food but like you like it feels like like look I know you love food but like you're almost creating like a food scene with this thing so explain to everybody what it is look I got a few friends who really love to cook one guy named uh Eddie Wong and he's he's been uh he's been a good friend of mine for a really long time just like an awesome New York dude no frills no bullshit really is into just like eating and cooking great food and he has a great show on vice and me and him just go we go to arcadia san gabriel valley we're just going to eat everywhere

we're stuffing our faces what's arcadia and san gabriel uh san gabriel valley is like an hour away from here and arcadia is is 45 minutes away from here and it's just like there's like great asian food around there all different types you know szechuan yakitori and hot pot and all that and me and him just go bullshit and and play basketball together and he's an awesome dude and then there's another guy that I became friends with, this guy named Bert. And he started this thing called Trudy's. And basically, he went to Austin. He's like this Israeli dude.

He's like a real estate agent or something. He went to Austin like 10 years ago. And he was like, oh, he's like, I'm going to make barbecue. Like he got back. He was like, oh, my God, it's so good. So he starts practicing it more and more into it. He a a uh a smoker and getting this and that and then he's like oh he's like well i'm gonna start making more and he starts making he starts just giving it to his friends he starts making these little sandwiches for his friends and then

his friends are like oh can i have another one oh hey my friend i let my friend taste it they want another one they want another one and just started growing organically he put up like an instagram he started doing it and now it's like a six month wait to get this guy's brisket and he serves it from his backyard so it's similar to what we went to today very similar and those are my favorite there's a bunch of them there's burgers never die there's uh there's this thing called mcfly that's a fried chicken place there's the place we went to today you know there's there's a million really really good underground chicken place we went to today. You know, there's a million really, really good underground spots. And that fried chicken place we went to last time, is that McFly? I don't know if that one's out in race.

Yeah, that was great. What was that? Similar. Remember when we went to the... Were you there? You didn't come. Oh, the chicken, the fried chicken place. We went to one in a shopping mall.

It was rammed. The queue was huge. And the fried chicken was all right. It was good. It wasn't amazing. But I mean, there's a buzz around food like that. But you're always in search of the best. Like the best.

Yeah, I don't want to eat anything unless it's the best. Like I want to strive for it. Just like everything in my life. It's like when I wake up, it's like, man, I want to do the best I possibly can today. I wake up every day and I'm like, A, how can I work harder? And B, how can I have the most fun today? Because sometimes it's not easy to have fun. Sometimes you really got to fucking go for it.

Sometimes you're just sitting in your house and you could easily just sit there and take a nap or close your shades and just do whatever you want. But if you really want to make the best of your life, you got to seek out the fun sometimes. You got to go on hikes. You got to get your friends around. you got to call everyone over for a dinner i'm looking at sam i wanted to do something to make him feel good mr you're right man miss miss high times you work hard you gotta you gotta make sure you enjoy the time you have off and you gotta work those hours of fun stuff i feel like i'm back in school right now doing this interview jesse goes oh yeah yeah, it's real quick. We're just going to do this quick little podcast. I'll just ask a few.

Okay. LA or New York, which one's the better place for eating out? Oh, I mean, look, they're the best for different reasons. Sushi might be better in LA, even though I got my man Masa at Sushi Zo in New York. Shouts to him. Italian food is way better in New York. Just getting a sandwich, just like being like, yo, I just want a sandwich. You go outside anywhere in New York. It doesn't matter. You go, you close your eyes and put me on any corner within one block. There's going to be the best sandwich and the best. Oh, no fucking bagels here. Like it's like there's one place that's like, OK, but man, I need my Russ and Daughters fix. I literally get it delivered from New York to LA.

That's how fucking psycho I am. Or rich, I don't know. It's not, no, no, it's actually really reasonable. Oh, really? It is, serious, serious. It is, yeah, so unbelievably reasonable. It's like $10 more than eating there. Fuck off.

I don't believe it. Pull it up. Well, I'm not. Yeah, okay, fine. You can feed eight people on it for like $105. That's good. Or six. Six people.

It comes with six. Are we still going to back in the freezer? Yeah. Yeah, I got some vodka. Benny keeps the Ross and Daughters vodka in his in his freezer because he gets it like sent over. No, I didn't even get it sent over. Is that from last year? Yeah, I still eat them.

Fuck off. What do you mean? It's frozen. It's good. Don't ever waste food, people. What's better, LA or New York? I really like the Italian in New York. I really love like health food

is just so much better here. It's just like insane. Like I go to erwan and just get lost it's like my happy place erwan's like a more expensive whole food erwan's like erwan's like the club how the kids call it like you walk into erwan and like it's you're better off than going on like fucking jade date or a fucking one oak like you go to erwan you just see like girls are in there they're ready they're talking they're drinking their little juices their little elixirs they

just worked guys guys look like the incredible hulk sam should go there i mean sam sam's married oh yeah Well, I'm like three glasses in, so, babe, help me ask some questions. All right, I got you, Jess. I got this. Yeah, last supper, what would it be, man? All right, here's where we're going. We're going right like this. What are you going to eat?

Do I get three meals or it's just one meal? It's got to be three. Yeah, yeah, the whole three bowls, man. All right, definitely starting with Russ and Daughters. I'm going crazy. I got like, I'm eating three or four big. I got endless. Yeah, yeah, breakfast.

Oh, yeah. I'm getting a bagel with scallion cream cheese, pastrami lox on it, onions, capers, dill. That's good. That's good. Tomato on a sesame bagel toasted, maybe scooping out one of the sides. You always eat maybe both the sides. Why do you scoop out the sides? Just so you can fit some

more on this crunchy urine and what you want to do is you never you never first of all we can tell if you're from we can tell if you're if you're a new yorker or not how you eat your bagel like you would never eat a bagel with both tops on top of it unless you're eating an egg sandwich you would eat it split just like as if you're eating a pizza you would never eat a pizza like eating a pizza you'd fold it in half and eat it like this i'm a new yorker that's exactly how i eat my bagel and my pizza hey babe come on over so you're not there anymore as we're in la um all right so you know when i do that i'd have the lot because i'd have i'd have everything um we're kind boxers. So, okay, we're saying... We're kind of keeping it simple here because then you're not going to have no lunch.

You had that much for breakfast. No, it's fantasy. This is my fantasy dream world. No, no, no. I'm too literal. I'm talking breakfast, lunch, dinner, man. You don't want to... You want to keep it simple.

All right. If you were going to out-eat someone... I'm actually not the guy who can eat a ton at a time uh if i'm gonna out eat someone i think like maybe sushi if i could just like but then i always think i'm good and then i look up like no i look up like like eaters like professional eaters and some of the like i'll be like oh i could totally eat like two matzo ball sized or baseball sized matzo balls in five minutes. And I look up and some guy had like 28.

Or like I looked up oysters. Like how many dozen oysters do you think you could eat in nine minutes? I mean, I could not do more than six. How many do you think you could do? Two oysters. I'm vomiting after that, man. So I'm not the guy for this question. So let's just say you could eat like five dozen.

This guy had 78 dozen oysters. He had like 190, however many he had. Like it was insane. All right, so you only choose one food you can only eat for the whole rest of your life. Like one ingredient? No, no, no. One dish. One dish.

What would it be? Your favorite dish. If I had to have a favorite dish? You can only eat that one thing over and over again i'm just taking bread i'm taking just bread wow like if not even babka oh you're saying like like a like a type of i guess like maybe like persian food or something if i had to have like some or middle eastern because you can have like fish i don't know that i don't get the question. You didn't finish your last meal. We got Russ and Daughters. We got Russ and Daughters.

Then I'm going to kill you and eat you. I couldn't decide. Honestly, I would probably be searching through the menus and they're like, sir, sir, it's 9.30 p.m. We have to go home. You have to die. They're like, you have to die now, sir. And I'm like, just one more second.

Let me get a vote. Like, does everyone want sugarfish here? Like, does anyone want a little bit of Indian food? Honestly, Regency Club might be one of them. Regency Club is a curry place you went in. In London? You've never been there? No, no, no.

Crazy. Is it amazing? It? No, no, no. Crazy. Is it amazing? It's in Edgeware, right? Yeah, I got fucking stumped because I told, like, basically, we live in East London. Everyone loves, what's it? What's it called? Tyab's.

Tyab's. I saw a bloody cockroach in there, but anyway. Tyab's isn't even that. Tyab's is not even great. Nah, Regency Club is shitting on you. Dishoom is good. Dishoom is fun. But it's, like, fancy.

It's, like, fancy. What, Regency Clububs is shitting on it Deschum is good Deschum is fun but it's like fancy it's like fancy Regency Clubs is not fancy no Regency Clubs used to be a billiards a snooker whatever it's called yeah yeah yeah

and it's like and it's like you're you know it's good when just like you go in there everyone's Indian it's all families

it's fucking Thai Habs is like that but then you do see cockroaches and the food nah Regency Club is amazing and it's northern Indian yeah It's all families. It's fucking... Thai abs is like that, but then you do see cockroaches and the food. Nah, Regency Club is amazing. And it's Northern India. Yeah.

Yeah, so there's one thing at a dinner table. You're sitting with all your, say, Christmas meal or whatever. I'm Jewish, you fucking asshole. I'm married to a Jew. We still have Christmas dinners. Christmas cup. Christmas cup. All right, so what's your one thing that pisses you off at a dinner table? It have to be christmas obviously christmas whatever it is

like when someone's being quiet like i want my table is like the second people are sitting down like you can't even get a word in like if someone's being quiet i'm like hey you're talking a little too fucking much you know like probably that i don't care about fucking table manners like oh yeah if people eat food before it's ready in the kitchen, that's the number one. Thanks, Ev. I don't know. Or taste in your food.

Hold on, if people eat food. If you are like tasting. What about when I'm cooking something and someone dips in and goes, oh, what's that taste? It's not finished shit. Yeah, I'll put their head. All right, yeah, I'll get that.

Okay, right. Thank you. This is always going to be a fucking mess, but I'm glad that we talked about food and about how you're pretty great. And I can't fucking speak. You're too high. Here, I'm going to take it away.

This is Jesse Ware. This has been a great night on tables, drive-ins and dick cheese. I don't know what the fuck it's called. It's been incredible. This is Sam, my beautiful husband. I'm going to be so much better than him. I'm going to get him everything he wants.

You want that Tesla outside? You're good, hon. It's great. I'm going to be so much better than him I'm going to get him everything he wants you want that Tesla outside you're good hun it's great we're going to eat food I love you guys thank you so much make my album number one please

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