Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S11 Ep 1: Elizabeth Olsen

Episode Date: January 13, 2021

New year, new series and TIER 5000 ain't gonna stop us bringing you Table Manners, no siree! We have got a great series lined up for you, kicking off with none other than the queen of Marvel & Table Manners' biggest fan - Elizabeth Olsen. Elizabeth talks about growing up in the Californian Valley, her mums 70’s food habits, her friendship with HAIM & being the younger sister to Mary Kate & Ashley. We managed to record this prior to the national lockdown restrictions meaning mum was able to cook up a storm & we chatted over wine and a feast. What a delight it was, we love Lizzie!  WandaVision, an original series from Marvel studios is available on Disney + from January 15th. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and a very happy new year and welcome to series 11 of Table Manners. We're back mum, we're back with a vengeance, we're back on Zoom due to old Covid. So how are you mum? I'm alright darling, how are you? I'm alright, I'm hoping everyone's well and bearing up during this third lockdown. We are going to keep bringing you episodes and we have amazing guests lined up for this series, some of whom will of course be on Zoom, but we did do some that we managed to record face-to-face when the restrictions were eased. So the first episode is one of those with a bit of a story

attached to it, as you're going to hear. We hope you enjoy. Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm in Mum's house. Yep. It's a big one tonight because we've been waiting for this. We've been really quite round the houses with this one. So we have Elizabeth Olsen, the incredibly successful actress who's part of the whole Avengers...

Marvel. Marvel franchise. She's marvellous. She's marvell She's marvelous. And also the younger sister of the Olsen twins. I want to know if she gets friends and family discount because it is the most expensive shop in the world, but the best.

It's a rich shop. Yeah, they've got the row and it's like the best clothes in the world. Really? It's Benny Sue. Anyway, so Elizabeth Olsen's on and actually we got an email from her people saying she really wanted to be on

because apparently she's a fan of Table Manners. How? Because, Mum, we're kind of a deal with global. Are we international? International, baby. Wow. So Elizabeth wanted to be on it. She wanted to be on it so much

that she asked the people at Disney, where she's filming at the moment, she's filming somewhere in the UK. I think Marvel and Disney are part of the same crew. So, you know, we had to ask the gods at Disney. And so Disney were like, can we Zoom? Lizzie didn't want to Zoom. She wanted to get the food.

She wants the food. She wants the Lenny grub. She knows how it works, right? So we all got these COVID tests. Producer Alice, mum and I. That's two and a half weeks ago. Lo and behold, dear old Al had COVID. So couldn't do it.

And Alice is here now after isolating as well. We then had a second COVID test. We all came back negative. So the show can go on tonight but behind a screen with a briefing before um elizabeth gets here but i think she's game as a bagel as gaga would say and um i think even behind the screen will be okay we can reenact the romeo and juliet love scene with the fish tank maybe i don't know okay mum you've pulled out the big guns my knees have gone I'm telling you I've been on them at my feet all day so I started off with dessert oh yeah I've

been watching a lot of MasterChef and the great British menu so what inspired the pudding so I decided it was clementines but then I decided to, I've done an orange curd tart and I made my own pastry. I've never had one of those. What do you serve it with, chocolate? No. Grated chocolate on the top. No, we're not doing that, Jessie. Thank you.

Terry's chocolate orange. I've got creme fraiche to go with it because everyone's on a diet. No one wants everything. I think a little grated dark chocolate would be really nice on there, Mum. A few dark chocolate shavings. There's some chocolate in there if you want but then i've done my very favorite dish that i love making lebanese lamb i don't think we've done lebanese lamb since sandy toxic yeah yeah and then i've made i fancied this i made it up and I hope it works. I've done spinach and yogurt with sun-dried tomatoes and sumac. And some, actually I couldn't find pine kernels,

so I put some sunflower seeds in for texture. Well, Jamie Oliver used to do those lovely yogurt, spinach and puy lentil. Oh no, they were green lentils. Right, so I've done my green lentil and rice, that mushadira, that thing, the Lebanese rice. And I've done some broccoli with anchovy and melchion. Oh, it feels good to be back, Mum, in the kitchen. Well, you to be back in the kitchen. Yeah, of course, darling.

We'd eat it. Elizabeth Olsen coming up on Table Mum. Marvellous. can i just say cheers thank god you're here finally finally we get to meet each other yes you have broken from filming and you're filming a top secret Marvel film. Yes. But you've just broken for the holidays. Yeah. And how are you?

How is it being in London? I love London. I wish I could have lived in London, but we're filming in the country, far away. And so it was too long of a commute for me to be able to. So I'm in Richmond. Oh, it's gorgeous. Oh, charming. How lovely is it? I'm having the greatest time. long of a commute for me to be able to so i'm in richmond oh it's gorgeous charming and i'm i'm having the greatest yeah time and i'm with my my my man guy partner and we're in richmond

and he's a writer he's a musician he was in a band called milo green and i think you guys were in some um some of some festivals at the same time yeah he um but he started just writing like normal you know writing not music and um and so he can do that here and so we're like living this British dream in this house in Richmond right by the water do you feel like you're kind of living out that like Richard Curtis rom-com film in Richmond well so we want to figure out how to stay here so now we want to write a rom-com so that we can specific to like an American in England amazing because we don't want to leave and I have all I've had such an affinity for England already that I last year was looking into how I can legally live here um or we could legally live here but you have to have

like five consecutive years of a work visa, I think. Why do you want to, why do you love it? I think, I just, I worked here six years ago doing an Avengers thing. You must have been about 12 then. And I lived in Primrose. Yeah, I was about 12.

I was about, I think I was 20, I'm 31 now, so I was 25. You lived in Primrose Hill? How gorgeous is that? And Primrose Hill on like someone else's budget because they put you up now so it's 25 and um you lived in primrose hill how gorgeous is that and primrose hall like someone else's budget because they put you up and it was just gorgeous and having the heat there and i think i just like i'm a i'm it's such a like a saying that's used too much but the the idea of living to work or working to live is just, it feels different here.

Robbie and I both just feel like so connected to England. Like just like so like physically connected. What do you think it is? I think it's people. I think the hard thing with the people, at least with work, is there's a little bit, the sets feel a little bit more hierarchical than in the States, which is a little interesting to navigate.

And I'm like, you know, I want everyone to like come down to the same like soil level together. And so it's, it, and then everyone has the PPE on. So you can't really get to know people. So it's, it's a bit, it's interesting right now trying to figure this out but I've always just I think the humor here I don't know people don't take things as preciously I'm yeah are you east coast or west I'm I'm fourth generation Los Angeles oh really wow but I lived in New York for eight years. Yeah, I kind of think of you as an East Coaster. I don't know why that is.

I get that a lot, which is funny. So you're from LA? Mm-hmm. Where did you grow up? In the Valley. You're a Valley girl. Like the Heim girls? I know the Heims.

Do you? And I was very excited to listen to your episode with them. Oh, that's great. Can you sing? Because we usually end up like that. No. No, I was told I sang flat when I was, I think, 11 or 12 years old, and that was it. How kind of them.

Yeah, it was my summer camp. And they brought me in because we were doing West Side Story, and they said, Lizzie, we want to give you the part of Maria, but you need to take singing lessons with Tony and Conchita because you sing flat. And so at the same time, they like somehow got my parents to like, because my parents had to pay for it. So, you know, in hindsight, and of course I was like, I'll do anything.

You know? I want it. Did you get the part? Yeah. And did you sing flat? Probably. Well, it's a tough gig. Maria is a soprano. I mean, that's a tough gig maria is a soprano i mean that's a tough gig

also wrong but you look like a maria actually doesn't she i don't know if she looks like but i am i'm going to address the fact that you asked to be on table manners which kind of blew my mind I did because I love it so much and I love food so much and I this is so funny and also you were like a weird strange consistent part of my quarantine because Robbie was swimming every day all summer and he has a specific music list that he played so he could keep know what time he had and spotlight was on it and so like every day it was like every day so um so growing up in the valley yeah so I knew the Heim girls. When you were little. Not when I, because we didn't go to the same school.

We just somehow crossed over in like junior high or high school. And more specifically Danielle, because we were the same age. And I think our birthdays are a day apart. And she was just like the coolest person in the world. So I was like really intimidated by her and her, and her group of friends. Um, but they would play at my best friend's summer pool party every year. Is that a thing that happens? You get like, you actually do get the bands like when, well, in clueless when they have

like, Oh no, what is it? 10 things I hate about you. But this is them in high school. This is before they were like the Heim sisters this was just them playing in high school they couldn't get the have they done the gig in canter's deli yet or no i don't know actually i don't know where canter's features no because this is this will be like 2004 five six like that's when they were playing and so we that is how we knew each other and then it became like just an la valley kid thing you were really proud of being from the valley when you're

from the valley why because it separates this this um there's like a clear socioeconomic separation so you feel like you have more like cultural like relevance when you're a valley kid because you feel like you you you you are a part of a different group of people at school and things and so you just like feel like tougher than like the kids on the other side of the hill jesse meaning the other side of the hill like beverly hills yeah jesse what is the name of those was it sweet valley high yeah the books that you read yeah is that about the valley yeah jessica and elizabeth i don't know what i know did it not get i don't know it hold on i've got a girl walks into a crowded prison she sees there's a beauty sending is she what do i not

know sweet valley hide maybe it was just a valley it's somewhere else in the babysitter's club the babysitter's club yes that's the valley is, yes. That's the valley. Is that the valley as well? Okay, yes. That looks amazing. Is that risotto? No, it's a Lebanese rice dish with lentils called Mujhadara. But that's really funny that you said risotto because we had a whole thing where we thought that we might have to sit with it on our laps and we were going to do risotto maybe. So we went through lots of things that were like okay things to have in our lap.

So what you're having is a Lebanese lamb. Do you eat meat? I eat everything. Thank God. So I've done Lebanese lamb and I've done this muchadara it's called. It's like lentils and rice with onions, lots of onions, which we're were frying which you probably can smell in here and then I've done spinach and yogurt and then I've done also some broccoli with a anchovy emulsion yeah have you put extra water in the rice yeah okay um so and the lamb's in

there now it only takes 40 minutes to cook what's cut is it? It's a leg, but butterflied. They take the bone out. Oh, fine. So it only takes... Do you like it well done or rare? I like most meat medium rare. Yeah, me too. I'll have the well done bits.

Oh, it's looking very good. So, growing up in the valley, you have two very well-known sisters older sisters the twins yeah and then do you have any other siblings yes the oldest we have lots the oldest is my brother which I think is really that I feel like that's uh it's he's in a harder birth order position being like the oldest guy and having two younger sisters that are very successful and then it's me and then from my dad's second marriage I have a younger brother and younger sister so there's he has which is a lot a few siblings so what's your brother do my brother's a writer and he also

he what well he's a he's pursuing being a writer but he um he's but he's a teacher and a tutor. And so he's been really busy right now. Yeah, right. He's so good with kids. I want him to kind of... Has he got kids? No, but he is... I'll have people at film festivals that would be like,

Oh, I know your brother from this summer film camp that he would be a counselor at and he was and they were like all still in touch with him he's just a like a really nice lovely guy a mensch yeah um so but it was weird it's weird growing up with with that but it's also the only thing you know so it's when you say that being like your sister's being famous and in Los Angeles. It's a different kind of thing than anywhere else. What, because it's the epicenter of kind of, it's schmooze and, or was it just weird for them being so famous when they were younger and then you wanting to do the same thing? Yeah, there was a, I mean, it was the paparazzi part was the strange part.

Oh, yeah, right. Because they follow you. And so as a child, that's very scary. And they were obsessed with your sisters. Yeah, and they're obsessed with them a child, that's very scary. And they were obsessed with your sisters. Yeah, and they're obsessed with them turning 18, which is so weird. Because they were on Nickelodeon.

Was it Nickelodeon? I don't know actually the station they were on, but it was Full House. And they, yeah, they were always in the Daily Mail here. Like there was this fixation. I feel I know them as well. Yeah. And you had to experience that as the sibling that wasn't acting yet yes and I always I was the one who was doing the dancing and the theater and the all the things and made everyone come to my shows and they didn't even really they didn't like live audiences they didn't really enjoy it that much as they got older

and I it was like everything I wanted to be and then I felt so silly for wanting to be an actor being in LA because I just felt like it's a very silly job to want to do because people move there to want to be an actor and I just thought that was a bit like I thought that was a bit strange and I was like and I'm good at I'm good at school so maybe I'll be an accountant or something or but I was like yeah you're gonna work on Wall Street and I'm like okay and I didn't I pretended like I wanted that when I was in junior high and then I did some high school theater and had a teacher that made me realize that that theater and storytelling the history of the theater specifically and like Russian theater and culture was something that I could academically connect to and like validate it I had to validate

it through like so it had to be more academic yeah there had to be something else besides like what what I saw and I guess your experience was seeing the fame side which was probably really ugly for you to have to see but your sisters didn't want the attention so then it kind of i think you know what my sister's an actress actually you played she played your mother in old boy are you kidding no how funny is that but you probably never met no i think you wouldn't have done this because she gorgeous yeah Yeah, her name's Hannah. Hannah. Yeah.

That's Jessie's sister. Oh my gosh, that is so funny. I remember watching that footage and thinking, who wants more? Well, thank you for choosing such a beautiful mom. Wait, you guys, that's crazy. That's really old, isn't it? That was a weird movie where I had to be very naked.

Oh God. Oh, God. Yeah, and at that age, I really didn't have a problem with it. Look at those bubbles. They're just so beautiful. This is delicious. Thank you. I've not been drinking because I've been on a diet. So mum's well up there.

I've been murderous. A, the diet, no alcohol. It's funny how she's all right after a glass. Fucking COVID has driven me bonkers. I'm not good. I discovered, Jessie, I'm an extrovert. Oh, no shit, Sherlock. Jesus. I thought I was an introvert.

Yeah, I can't believe it. Why do you think I put you on this podcast and made you a gay icon? I thought I was an introvert. I can't cope on my own. That's so funny. I find it really hard not being with people. We were talking about being alone today because while I'm at work, Robbie's alone. And because of the lockdown.

Oh, you could come here with me. Yeah. We haven't actually spoken about food. So growing up in the Valley, who was doing the cooking? And what were you eating? Or what weren't you eating? Were you a fussy kid? No, the only thing I was fussy about is I did not like cheese as a kid.

And then I dated a boy in high school for a long time. He was like my high school adolescent boyfriend. And his family, their big, um, big foodies, big Friday night meals every night. Um, where they would like prepare, you know, a roux or a stock from the beginning of the week and the whole thing, like everything led to Friday night or Sunday night. I actually can't remember what night Sunday night dinners. And he told me that I couldn't be a foodie unless I like cheese. So like I trained my mouth to like cheese, um, but I still have a hard time with a lot of blue and goat cheese, but, um, there's certain goat cheeses I'm fine with, but, um, yeah, so I, so I didn't like cheese as a kid,

but both my parents cooked, they divorced when we were really young, but always got along. So like, it wasn't a thing for the holidays. It was really easy you just always have like two Christmases two Thanksgivings and it was just I loved it um my mom is like very um 70s like just what she grew up with is the person who will like make a boil a chicken in the microwave to make a salad or she'll um would make just like just 70s dishes like casseroles and salmon balls were my favorite thing salmon salmon balls it's just like a cheese spread it's just cream cheese and canned salmon and um horseradish and parsley onion and then she would put some liquid smoke in it because it wasn't smoked salmon,

and you just spread it on some buttery crackers. Oh, I like this. I'm making it this weekend, yeah. I love this. Can you give us a recipe? I really like this. I like the sound of it. Yeah, I mean, it's so 70s American cocktail spread.

Yes, and it is so good because it's just cream cheese and salmon. And so that was like her thing where we would like always bring salmon balls wrapped in plastic wrap. Why were they in balls? I don't know. I think that's just like the way you do it. You know, you get one of those. You mix it all up. And put it in a ball.

And then you put it in the fridge put in a ball and then you and you you put in the fridge within the plastic wrap and shape it and then when you display it you put you get one of those you know perfect platters with like the circle in the middle and you put it in the circle and you have all your crackers this is right up your street yeah it's love things like very traditional and it's it's much better than cheese on sticks with... Pineapple. Pineapple. Oh. Did you ever do that?

Didn't you ever do that? No. That's an English thing. I can't mix fruit with like anything. No. Fruit to me shouldn't be in a salad. I can have it on a cheese board. Just about.

And that's about it. So what's your favorite cheese now? Oh. I don't know. You're not a big fan still. No, I love. Do you like smelly French cheeses? I do. I make a homemade ricotta that I love.

Yeah. You make ricotta? It's really easy. Oh, my God. Lizzie, stop this. No, it's... See, I can make that. Yeah, you just...

Oh, this isn't about you, Mom. No, ricotta, you just boil it, and then you just... Boil what? You boil... It's whatever, like, whatever like fat dairy combo you want there's this recipe um do you know bacco mercat the or bacco it's um a restaurant in la that's a great cookbook bacco my dad also is a great cook oh yeah what's your dad's he's like the griller so we ate a lot of barbecue yeah we had a lot steaks. He's very well known in his friend group for his ribs.

He does these dry ribs that are just... You just eat them with a fork. It's just so... What, because they like that melt? He uses just like a lime white vinegar marinade that he just bastes it with. And he just slow cooks them and it takes all day. And they're so delicious.

And he's really healthy're so delicious and he's really healthy but not because he's like a major vice person and is just like doesn't like sugar and like doesn't like things that are bad for you just naturally um like he would green juice every day but the juice was really like brown because it was just like everything but the kitchen sink was in it and it was like frothy old school juicer and I would I would take it in a solo cup do you know what that is that it was like red beer cups oh yeah and I would take that to school and I would like drink my juice to school and if he didn't have time to make that he would just shovel raw spinach in his mouth in the morning he's a very strange healthy man but like loves to drink

and loves his steaks but he brags about how every time his doctor checks out his stomach he always asks him if he's a vegetarian because he's got so much very proud because he's like so many vegetables his bowel movements are just excellent apparently i wanted to know you know you live in la you're thinking about making the move here we would love you to come over what do you like about well i feel like maybe you haven't been able to experience it but you you were here when you lived in primrose hill but do you feel like you like the restaurants in london i mean is there something about like is there a particular restaurant that you will... I'm going to put this on there.

Oh, yeah. Is there a particular restaurant that you'll go to... That looks so delicious. ...that you really love? Oh, yeah, it does look great, Mum. I think, like, I just know... Because Primrose didn't really have great restaurants. There was, like, one Italian spot that I thought was lovely.

And then Limonia, which was fine. Sorry, Alice. But I can't actually remember some of the spot that I thought was lovely. And then Limonia, which was fine. But I can't actually remember some of the places that I really liked. There's this one place that was down. I always just found really small places that had like chalkboard menus, whether it was like in Covent Garden area, usually. There's this one, I think it was called like Something Duck. Oh, Duck Soup. that it and it's really small in Soho yeah that must be duck soup yeah I loved that place so much really fantastic and then I love all the Ottolenghi everything Nopi I love

all that stuff you should go to Rovi if you're here when the restaurants open up, it's his new one. Rovi. And it does a celeriac shawarma that is just like insane. And also this lobster crumpet that he does. And just so incredible all the flavors he puts together. He's so brilliant. What is it like being part of the Disney world? Because, I mean, you've got this show that's coming out yes wandavision that was such a crazy thing to shoot that was the craziest job i've ever had why it was so hard it was making we made a marvel six-hour movie in the same amount of time we make a two-hour Marvel movie and the same

amount of money it was very difficult Wow so it's really hard like just if you no matter like what you do I think if you can kind of just like grasp whatever that means for like budgeting and time and speed I don't because I'm not I'm not the craziest coriander person so it was crazy and it comes out and what's it about are you allowed to okay yeah so WandaVision when you say one like Wanda or Wanda okay so my character's name is Wanda I started in the franchise six years ago in an Avengers and the the second avengers called age of ultron yeah and my character in the comic books she has i mean they all they're so old these comics so sometimes

she has a relationship with one character but for the most part she has a relationship with this character called the vision and they have um they have a few different comic book series just about their relationships and their family and the children they have um they have a few different comic book series just about their relationships and their family and the children they have and it created like great havoc in the marvel universe and so i think fans have been hoping or or wanting us to get to a point where we explored that part of the relationship and i think what happened was Disney Plus was launching their streaming service. Which I have dug deep into because I have two children. Right. And it's great.

And they wanted to figure out how to get Marvel movie fans connected to the actual app. And so Kevin Feige, who is like our great leader of Marvel. Yes, you're awesome. Thank you. And he's the loveliest man, like truly, truly, deeply, like the loveliest person to work for. Like to call him a boss is such a gift.

He gives us so much like creative input and always wants to hear our ideas, wants to hear our opinions, even if it's about like throwing out an idea for the character when it comes to the scripts, when it comes to, our opinions, even if it's about throwing out an idea for the character when it comes to the scripts, when it comes to... I mean, he's incredible. Because I would have thought that you'd be quite beholden

to these texts and these books because the fans are so mad about these comics. Yeah, but we're not. That's amazing. And I feel like I've heard stories from people, I don't want to name franchises, but from other franchises that have had a really hard time getting their voice heard. And we just don't have that. And the other thing we don't have, which also other franchises I've heard about are different, there's no pressure about body.

No one's ever told me to see a trainer trainer no one's ever told me the way they want me to physically look and i've had friends that were like wade you're joking yeah and it was one of her first jobs and so she she was just kind of like was like well i guess it's just a thing that people do and i was like that is not a thing. That's horrendous. Yeah. That is delicious. It's really lovely, Mom. There's quite a, like, special community and family we have.

And so WandaVision, I get to work with Paul Bettany, who plays my lover, my husband, and my... Good kisser? You know, it's very PG, so I couldn't even

answer that question do you want me to do a little box for your husband takeaway yes yes i mean obviously once we're all finished so wandavision yeah is about our relationship it's about it's also kind of like an origin story for my character in some ways. And I would say, like, launches her into a new place that she hasn't been or had the opportunity yet. It was a lot of fun. And we tell our story with this, like, medium of American classic sitcom through the ages. So it was also, like, kind of meta for me.

Amazing. Once we got to the eighties and nineties. Um, but, um, so I, I got, we got to do a Dick Van Dyke one. We got to do a bewitched one.

We got to do a Brady bunch one and then family ties and then, um, um, Malcolm in the middle and then modern family. And so we got, and it truly helps tell our story as almost like this facade that you need to break through. And it's a conversation with like what, what the Marvel movies are. And it's been, it was really fun and really hard for everyone because of the costumes, because of

the production design. You can't like film, cause we have like our our house is street with like flowers and a picket fence for every single decade it's different so these got the whole art production they had it overnight put in different flowers put in different types of fences different types of mailboxes and the whole thing was so detailed and beautiful. And we finished filming during COVID. We finished filming like two months ago, I think. And we filmed for two months. And it was all outside in LA. And it was when all the fires were happening.

So we had to get shut down because people couldn't breathe. Oh, my God. It was just one thing after another. I mean, you work a lot with them. I do. It takes up a lot of my time. I was doing a TV show that I produced and was in that went on Facebook, so no one saw it. How annoying. Yeah, they didn't really figure out what their...

Can it be sold to Netflix or something? I think after a certain amount of years it can be. And what's it called? It's called Sorry for Your Loss. It's about a young widow and it's like a dramedy and you wrote it no you I just produced it and and you starred in it yeah and it was and so I was doing that for a couple years so I kind of like missing my indie movies because the last one I did was like four years ago or came out three years ago and like i'm missing that experience which i'll do at the end of this because i'm gonna say the wrong names now martha marcy was name arlene yeah that was a huge film for you right and that was more indie

that was my first movie that came out but and then the Avengers kind of you, how far can Wanda go with the, like how, like how much more can they unpick your. Well, technically I, um, I don't make like six picture movie deals. So I just make like a couple at a time. So it just, it depends on like what the stories are. Right. Which has been nice for me. Yeah.

For many reasons. But it's been nice because it's not just like, you're not just like used part of a machine. They really care about trying to lure you in with good storytelling. I want to ask you, as you know the podcast, you're going to be asked what your last supper would be. I know I've been brainstorming for a long time. Really? Is it been my first every week? Even when I watch, I'm like, that would be my, you know,

or not watch, listen, while I'm driving. So where I've landed on this. Today. Today. So starter's hard for me because I love, really, I also really love healthy food. And there's a kale Caesar salad from El Buco that I'm obsessed with. And I just think their croutons are so good. Kale Caesar salad.

Yeah. Do they massage the kale first? They do. Yeah. They massage it well. We don't massage kale in England. You have to. We do now. No one's ever heard of it really first they do yeah they massage it well massage kale in england you do now no one's ever heard of it it's better to massage it because it is benny talk oh my gosh you'll be having indigestion all day if you don't it's so horrible unless you massage well

it's hard for your body to even like process it yeah you end up getting all burpy oh you're helping your enzymes by massaging it i didn't even know that yeah carry on um so so the kale caesar from el buco i think about a lot but i also am like a big caviar fan which feels a little um i don't know silly to say but i love caviar so much how You can have both. How did you get into it? Like, who introduced you to it? My sister. I love caviar. Yeah, so for Christmas morning, when we were at my mom's at a certain point, we always did bagels and cream cheese and eggs.

And then she fucked everything up with the caviar. And then she brought in the caviar and smoked salmon to the table. And then I discovered it and loved it. But I also got screwed up because like she's getting me very specific like i taste very specific caviar and it's very good caviar which means it's which means that like then i need so yeah which is which is you know a lot and hard to find um no no if you pay darling you can get great. Yeah, there's good caviar out there. Darling, would you like a little more meat? I'm not sure yet.

I think I'm going to settle so I can talk. There is some dessert as well. So moving on to mains. Yes, mains. So when I think of, well, can I do first, second, and third? Oh, like a preemie. Like a preemie. She's like, what's his name?

The gorgeous one he did the same did he do the same yeah so i think i would did a whole day of food i've thought about that yeah because i've i've thought about like the things that i'd love to make on like our saturday morning that i would love to have okay you can have everything you're going to be on a desert island for six months we have this um specific toast that is called Dave's Bread. And it's in every supermarket in the States, basically. And it's just delicious sliced bread. We don't get that.

And avocado. There's like a whole layering thing. It's like avocado, lemon, chives, salt, pepper. And then smoked salmon, chives, pepper, and then a fried egg or really, really, really, really, really, really, really slow cooked scrambled eggs. That's like on a special, that's more special, like 30 minutes of me doing this. Um, and that is like our favorite weekend meal. But my pre-me course would be not from El Buco, but from El Buco Almentari.

They have a restaurant that's just like a parallel block away. And they have a bucatini cacio e pepe that's... Oh, I have looked... We should have a bell for the fucking cacio e pepe. Really? I love Vongoled can you do it can you make it I've

I made it one I made it one Christmas for my family actually and it was really good and did it work yeah I think the issue was is I need to get

like an electric um paper grinder because this hurt the amount of pepper that I had to twist and you got the emulsified olive oil

with the no it's butter no it's olive oil it was I had to twist and you got the emulsified olive oil with the cheese no it's olive oil I used olive oil and butter and parmesan I don't know if I emulsified it properly so Sam in Nosrat she said about the emulsifying how you emulsify

because you've got to put water with the olive oil I didn't know that I didn't do anything like that but it was delicious I'm'm gonna have a go you know i wonder whether there's any good cacio e pepe in london i've looked for cacio e pepe in italy and i didn't find one that i liked as much as yours no no il buco alimentari's and their bugattini is perfect it's like it has a perfect bite shape is bugattini it's the spaghetti noodle with a hole in the middle oh i like that so you get that kind of crunch don't you but there's also a crunch to

it because it has that hole and if it's al dente there's like something perfect about that noodle um and then my main what would my main be oh um petit toit do you know petite toit in la it's one of ludo's restaurants where is it um they have one in hollywood right like catty corner from mozza that's the original the original is like this really narrow bar and there's just like the chef's kitchen that is exposed and you sit at the bar or you sit like facing these mirrors on the other side well definitely not covid friendly but then they made a rest that bigger restaurant um on like my block that i live on right and it's like a bigger more bistro vibe and they make a sol muñer that is i think the best saumonier ever and so I would have that with their

pilaf rice pilaf I've made an orange curd tart I've never made it I don't even know what that is neither do I but do you want a great chocolate I don't think it'd be right okay I thought dark chocolate with orange curd could work. I have. So I feel like I missed out on like certain puddings here. Yeah. I've never seen this pudding ever anywhere. Because I feel like...

This could be a revelation. Like, I feel like sometimes I learn about things on your show that I'm like, I guess I just don't know what that is. Is it because they're British? Because pudding is not the same in the States. I feel like, I guess I just don't know what that is. Is it because they're British? Because pudding is not the same in the States. I feel like it. This isn't a pudding, it's a dessert. So I feel like I, I also feel like I didn't grow up with a lot of dessert

besides like ice cream. But then I go to a British cafe and people are having cakes for breakfast. Cakes for breakfast. There's just cakes everywhere. It's very French, isn't it? I don't know. I just like a croissant.

Yeah, did you ever have like pastries when you were younger? I do a croissant crawl with a couple of friends where we try and find the best croissants in Los Angeles. Oh, really? We started it last year

and we wanted to make it a, it was our first annual, it was last year. And so now everywhere I go, I'm looking for the best croissant and I found the best croissant in Richmond and it just, it took, it took quite a few croissants to find it. Can you say the place? Yeah. It's in the cafe, the coffee shop that I really like called Capuchin.

I think it's called Capuchin. It's K-A-P-U-C-I-N. They're going to be chuffed. And, um, they, he explained it to me. And they, he explained it to me, they bake a lot of their cakes there, but they're like banana bread and stuff like that. But their bread loaves and their croissants and certain other French pastries are from a restaurant that used to be a Michelin starred restaurant nearby that shut down a year ago. And so the bakers from that restaurant have created their own kind of boulangerie. Oh, amazing. A distribution to cafes, and so he gets it from them.

I need you, sorry, go on. Can I just sort out this orange curd thing? I'm not putting chocolate in it. Okay, fine. Don't look at me like that. It didn't say, it didn't indicate chocolate. Jessie likes chocolate orange. That's a, is a kind of- That is so bad, Cherry's chocolate orange. Jessie likes chocolate orange. That is so bad.

Have you ever had Cherry's chocolate orange? I don't know what that is. You need to put it in Robbie's stocking. Is it dried chocolate? No, dried orange. It's a chocolate orange. It's a chocolate. So you get segments of dark chocolate.

Or is it milk chocolate? No, milk. It's milk. But it's flavoured with orange. You can get a dark one and it looks like it's like that. And you knock it and all the segments yeah it's so funny today we were making a box of chocolates for my driver wasim and you're fucking making chocolates today as well as the mug side no no no um make like picking them out

okay fine okay oh like from a place yes you're so nice and uh they had the dried orange wedges covered in chocolate and the orange wedges covered in chocolate and the orange peels covered in chocolate. You thought who would eat that? No, Robbie's obsessed with that. Robbie loves orange and chocolate. So for Robbie's Christmas present, this will be a quintessential stocking filler.

Okay. Everyone in the whole of the UK gets a Terry's chocolate orange. Terry's chocolate orange. Oh, it's delicious. I haven't paid attention to giving you a big piece. It's like an orange frittata. Yeah, this is... I don't know what it's like.

Did you make... It just came up like a great big cloud. And then it kind of sunk, but that's okay. Mum, did you make the pastry? Yeah. Oh, good. Oh, another. That takes a lot of time.

Yeah, it does. Yeah. It's tasty. It's got a little bit of a soggy bottom. But... Jessie, I made it this morning. It's got... I haven't tried anything like this ever. And it's got it it's i haven't tried

anything like this ever and it's got taste and it's like an orange frittata yeah and i love frittatas it is like an orange frittata it's like a sweet very damp at the bottom but a soggy bottom i actually don't mind a soggy bottom as much as um paul hollywood does i think that the taste is the great british bake off i feel like you oh you'd love it i know so many people have told me that but i i stopped watching cooking shows such a long time ago and i just like haven't gotten back to them except for the children's um junior chef masters yeah why the children's one i'm just like impressed with kids that can do things at a young age like i just these kids kids who know how to make a perfect macaron.

I know. I'm just like, no one knows how to do that. How do you know how to do that? I know. Yes, please. Do you think... Mum is pouring Lizzie a glass of wine. I like this.

We didn't get your main. Pudding. Or main. No, no, we did main. We did main. Sault Meunier. Sault Meunier. And with the... Dessert. What's's your dessert are you a sweet kind of person not the biggest sweet person i love dark

chocolate i love dark chocolate but i also i just love a galette i love like i love like a rustic galette with stone fruit i just love it pancake mom. I didn't know your French wasn't really up to snuff. I mean I think it's the same thing as a pie but galettes somehow just feel like crunchier and more rustic. And where is the place that you get a good galette from?

Petit Toit does good galettes and then I like making them. This woman is a proper foodie. It's really buttery, the crust. But do you do buckwheat with it? I don't, but I love buckwheat flour. Buckwheat's a really good flour for a galette. The other thing I love is just ice cream.

Me too. I just love ice cream. Have you found any good ice cream here? Jutes. Yes, Daniele's. That's in Richmond. Daniele's is great. Yeah, great.

It's gelato. But Jutes, have you tried Jutes? Oh, that's just a regular. Jude's is good. It's fantastic. You can buy it in a shop. Well, that's good to know. Yeah, it's very good, Jude's. It's bloody good.

Do you sing karaoke? I don't really like karaoke. No, neither does Jessie. Yeah. But if you had to, which song would you sing? When I have done karaoke, I will go for like a character because I really don't like the feeling of earnestly or even jokingly earnestly singing.

Okay. But I will do like Celine Dion, which I think sounds in my voice very similar to Cher and Eddie Vedder when I'm doing the voice. sounds in my voice very similar to Cher and Eddie Vedder when I'm doing the voice. And it's very like, you know, because they're like, like they're doing a lot. And so it's just kind of like funny to me.

But I don't really like karaoke. I think I had a weird experience doing it as a kid. Yeah, I love it. We're having it at your bat mitzvah. No, we fucking don't. You love karaoke. I love it. So do you do your bat mitzvah you love karaoke I love it I would go on my own I've never seen you do it

because I would if my friends were there and I'd sang I think I'm an inner group person I'm Destin's child so this is back to you being an extrovert that you only just discovered she ain't Michelle though.

Shut up. Yeah, you'd be Beyonce. I'll be Beyonce. And do you think you've got good table manners? Jessie, don't even ask that she's got good table manners. I don't know if I do because I don't know a lot of manners. And when I set a table, I put like a napkin and all the things on top of a plate. Like I just.

Oh, do you? Yeah, I do. I do like. I think that's an American thing. It's like farm thing. It's farm to table is rustic. It's just like I it's like I just can't remember. So I just do that.

You know what? We can't get over. And you probably you're an Anglophile now, but we can't get over that moving the plates before everyone's finished. I think that's rude. Well, I think it's rude. Because it rushes someone. But then the having hot food, you should start eating straight away. And Kiefer Sutherland told us that.

I quite like that. As an impatient, greedy person, I quite appreciate that. My issue with hot food is I just eat it so fast i just i just don't i eat i mean my the tip of my tongue's burnt from this morning just from my porridge what did you have on your porridge um i go to gail's for the takeaway porridge it's good it's good it's made with oat milk and it they put blueberries and they're like toasted maple seed topping oh nice that's very it's very nice i really love this idea of you just wandering around richmond going to get your chocolates going getting your porridge gales go and getting making friends with the car i kind of just love it i already feel like you're writing that you know

you know what stones mick jacker has have you seen jerry hall i haven't seen any of them but robbie could give you the detour yeah yeah of the wick house and the arlington or whatever they're all called he knows the whole history in the story elizabeth olsen i hope this has lived up to your expectations of the podcast we haven't had a good fight darling no we'll do that later it has been fantastic to have you over this has been so fun for me I really would like to push things forward and really meet Robbie and potentially

spend Boxing Day together that's what I'd quite like to do and if mum doesn't beat me to it we'll show you a good time when that is allowed in London but it's been honestly such a joy

to have you same good luck I'm so happy with WandaVision thank you and good luck with the top secret

film that we're not supposed to talk about show me there'll be a little box you would love that and yeah please

enjoy your time in London. I'm blighty. Thanks. This did live up to it. I actually thought that some of your guys' things were going to be staged for the podcast. I didn't realize how honest they were. Oh no, yeah, no. We really hate each other's guts.

I'm joking. What a gorgeous girl. I knew she would be. She was fabulous. She wanted this, Mum. I know, darling. I hope my food was up to snuff. I thought it was delicious. She knew about everything about food.

Like everything. Yeah. And she's just very lovely. And I thank her for encouraging Disney to let us do this. It was so lovely to have such a lovely conversation with a total stranger. Who's bright as a button. Oh, my goodness. And just wonderful.

Wanted to talk about food as much as us and everything. I'm a huge fan. Me too. That's me sorted for the weekend, the Avengers. I don't think we argued enough for her, darling. Oh, I think. You think I kept it? I think she thought that.

She got the flavour. She got the flavour, flavour. I loved it when she said oh i thought it was scripted i love this idea that we script um thank you elizabeth olsen for just brightening up our gray gray night and just really bringing hollywood to clapham yep but no that makes her sound like she's too Hollywood. She's not Hollywood. No, she's just a gorgeous woman.

She's just fantastic. Yeah. And thank you, Ginger Pig, for delicious lamb again that you've given us. Yeah, it was really yum. We'll be back next week and we hope you enjoyed the first episode of season, what season are we on now?

It's season 11. Yeah. Can I just say to everyone, let's forget about 2020. Happy New Year to everyone. Happy 2021. Was that the Queen's speech right there? No.

I mean, 2020's gone. 2020 is gone. I'm not even going to take it into account. We've got lots to look forward in 2021. Such as this season of Table Manners, starting with Elizabeth Olsen. Fabulous. Thank you for listening. Table Manners is produced by Alice Williams.