Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S11 Ep 10: Hannah Ware
Episode Date: March 17, 2021The time has come for the world to meet Lennie's number one, The One's leading lady and the one who knocked her little sister's front tooth out. Zooming in from LA, and making a classic Ware effort in... her dressing gown, Hannah Ware joins Table Manners! Boyfriend Jonah (who runs the fab Freedman’s LA restaurant) is on hand to be sound tech and meal translator whilst Han talks about having heart palpitations when sharing a takeaway meal with Jessie. We talk about about hiking (aka walking up a hill), her new no.1 charting Netflix show The One, eating above Barneys and she lends a tip to ‘always moisturise your elbows because they show your age'.Her last meal involves a vodka martini with a twist, and McDonald's fries and we talk about mum being the host with the absolute most. It's a family affair! Don't miss it! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello and welcome to Table Manners. This is a very special episode because it involves
another family member. Number one Jess. Indeed she is, it's Hannah Ware, the big sister,
the number one, the numero uno, the prima ballerina. Jessie, you cannot eat and then
burp right when I'm through things. I've had my dinner because mum really kindly made me dinner before we started.
It is a 6.30 jobby.
Hannah is in Los Angeles, so it's probably 10.30 in the morning there.
Yeah.
And so I've had my dins.
I've just had a little, what have I had?
Brisket, your lovely fake dauphinoise.
I love it.
Yeah.
You may ask why we have Hannah Ware on the podcast today.
Well, she is the star of a new Netflix show that has started.
It started last Friday and it's out now for everyone to watch.
And she's the star of it.
She plays an evil scientist and she's done this amazing dating app that can match two people together.
Through their genetic makeup.
And they'll be the most perfect match in
the world and it all gets a little bit hairy and too much and hannah is the scientist the beautiful
scientist the intelligent scientist who makes this happen so hannah has agreed to do this podcast and
actually it's probably the most amount of time i've spent with her in over kind of two five years
watching this program having her having her i mean she doesn't do facetime very well she doesn't do kind of um
she's not very i don't think we've ever zoomed she's not media i know bless her hopefully her
boyfriend jonah is there to help her set it up i can already tell you there's gonna be a faff with
her recording her voice she's probably better than you think well let's see yeah um but we've got the zoom
light on again which was such a hit with dan levy and hannah where's coming on so what do you have
to say mom is this going to be weird it's going to be a bit so it's going to be a weird yeah who
you give your attention to hannah and i are very different yeah but apparently we sound quite the
same so this may be quite confusing for people i don't know you have to identify yourself
yeah we'll be like hannah speaks so hannah's my big sister and she has lived in the states for a
very long time and she's always been quite fearless in that sense hasn't she braver than you
yeah all right mom yeah yeah always went on the waltzes, yeah. She would live on her own. She travels on her own.
She's a bit like Alex in that respect.
What do you mean by she'd live on her own?
She does live on her own.
You're scared of the dark, darling.
If someone's not in the house, you have to come and stay here.
And I have to have a nightlight on.
And a nightlight.
Is that really weird?
Yes.
I mean, she went off to Paris.
I say it's for my children.
She lived there for six months on her own. She then went off to Paris. I say it's for my children. She lived there for six months on her own.
She then went off to New York.
Do you think maybe she's just trying to get away from us?
Yeah, I think she might.
And then she moved to Los Angeles.
She's had the odd boyfriend in tow,
but a lot of stuff she does on her own.
Well, find out more about Hannah Ware
and her endeavours, her food endeavours, coming up on Table Manners.
Hannah Ware, welcome to a little podcast called Table Manners with your mother and your sister.
Hi mum, hi Jess.
Hi darling, how are you?
I'm fine, how are you?
I'm fine, what's the weather like?
It's downcast and it's been raining this morning.
Yeah, welcome to our world.
I know.
Hannah, have you had your breakfast yet?
I don't eat breakfast Jess, you know that.
Still? Still don't eat it, Jessie, you know that Still?
Still don't eat it, neither does Jonah
Breakfast is for wimps, darling
Okay, so when was the last time you ate and what did you eat?
We went round to our friends Yoram and his girlfriend Eleanor
And what did we have?
We had chicken stuffed with herbs and butter
A Green Goddess tahini dressing salad
Green Goddess is so...
They're still bloody doing that.
They've been doing Green Goddess for a while, haven't they?
That bloody dressing.
They have.
We had lots of skin contact wine
because that's the only thing people drink now, apparently.
What's it called?
Skin contact.
Skin contact.
It's like orange wine.
It's delicious.
It does feel slightly like you're drinking vinegar,
but it's lovely.
And I brought round... I found a babka that surpasses every other babka in la even your
boyfriend's babka of friedman's it's better than that we all know ow um and we um we had that for
dessert it was delicious but jonah was still hungry when we got home so he had chicken
basketball soup i sound like the most jewish person okay so so listen jonah is in the background
he's your sound technician and we've prayed for him to not go anywhere because you are
so technically ungifted that we need him there as we've just found out because it's taking us 20
minutes to log on but thank you jonah jonah we mentioned in the last episode dan levy uh runs
friedman's this jewish deli in east la and And he's a mensch, he's a star.
Yeah, he's a gourmand.
And also, Dan Levy says his matzo ball soup is very, very good.
I'm a little worried about...
The balls are dainty.
His matzo balls are very good.
Very, very good.
Unlike yours, Mum, they're not bricks.
What are you talking?
You haven't had mums there?
No, I'm a born-again matzo ball
maker darling how are your puddings these days how your puddings are insane now and my matzo
balls are like eating clouds what mistake were you making all those years mum not enough eggs
darling I thought it was one egg I used to do it how grandma used to do it with one egg and a lot
of flour and make a little well that's not the way
you do it four eggs but we liked I we always liked the pudding that was like a wet pudding
Yorkshire pudding I loved it oh I loved mum's Yorkshire pudding I always get confused when I
get a real one um but my matzo balls have gone on to another level oh really haven't they Jess
maybe when we're in LA we'll do a chicken soup off with Friedman's Lenny against the world.
They'd love that.
So, Jonah's there,
but Jonah's about to go and do work and serve the community
with brisket and matzo ball.
I mean, the irony that you've ended up with a nice Jewish boy
and I haven't,
and you were never that bothered about Jewish food
and now you basically have babkas coming out of your eyes.
I feel very jealous, Hannah.
Maybe we can swap lives for a bit.
Yeah.
No.
Sorry.
So listen, Hannah.
Yes, Jessie.
Tell me, we ask all our guests,
what was it like growing up?
What was the food like around that dinner table
and who were you sitting with and who was cooking?
What's your memorable childhood meal?
Heart palpitations while sharing a takeout with you.
Especially if it was an Indian.
Oh, fuck you!
Fuck you!
It was awful, Jessie.
I'm scarred.
That's why I moved country.
So I can eat at a leisurely pace.
You cannot share with Jessie.
No, but I've realised that I eat really quick because of you.
We all do.
I blame everyone in our family.
Because if you blink, someone's stolen your food.
And Jonah, like, has breaks.
There's a matinee.
Sorry, not a matinee.
There's an interval.
And I feel really embarrassed when I eat.
And I blame my childhood.
Or your sister.
So apart from me stealing the curry yes
what is one of your most memorable meals from mum because we know she's a great cook um well mum
always makes me when I get back and it's not even discussed I get her chicken dinner which I love
what does the chicken dinner entail roast vegetables, roast chicken Really nice gravy, except I think it's
Where is it from mum, it's a packet
Let's be honest
Oh no, oh okay
A few granules go in there
Jesus
It's been a while but Jesus
Come on, she's a fucking published author
Chef
Okay, so gravy
Broccoli
It sounds really boring though but I like
it because it's yours yeah um but what else do I remember I remember the mustard chicken and I
hated it the one in vermouth and mustard this is very um unfair because I thought it was one of
mum's more exciting dishes in the 90s no because you always use these like very lean I don't like
chicken breasts like last night I couldn't I't, I want a thigh or a leg.
I love brown meat.
I don't like the, it's not interesting.
Yeah, I think that's right.
But anyway, my favourite, I love your bolognese, Mum.
See?
You shut up.
Contentious.
Oh, if you were here now, Hannah, you'd end up with bloody lentil bolognese.
It's all changed.
Why?
What's wrong?
Oh, Jessie's so woke.
Didn't you ever find, what are you talking about i
just found lentil bolognese listen hannah what pete sam's dad's bolognese is superior to my mum's
and i love my mum why mum's was always watery because she'd done it in the pressure cooker
and i know traditional italian is very dry bolognese and i don't like it i want mum's
bolognese i like it it'd be like
soup at the end that you'd be kind of scooping up with the shell I loved it I loved it darling
so did you regard yourself as a cook when you were younger oh Jessie stop looking at me like that
I'm just asking the questions girl stop asking me just asking the questions girl come on no and I
think we can all agree I was not a cook but she
is now darling no but let's just take let's take us back like what what what was your go-to dish
that you would cook and be really proud of no i didn't i remember when you did that jamie oliver
oh you loved that jam wrapped in god yeah and you did lentils i was so pleased with
myself i know that was delicious darling but there were every pan was used but it was worth it
and i remember when you went through a phase of really loving a lemony carcass chicken you shoved
about 20 lemons in that chicken you can never have too many lemons well I disagree Hannah I
disagree because it was nobody else does it kind of made your eye go to you yeah made you whistle
so but things have changed now because you now live with a chef he's not a chef he's a restaurant
restauranteur he's a big deal he's a chef restauranteur entrepreneur and you did a three
day birth bourguignon the other day.
I did. I become, you know, I get obsessed with things and there's not much to do during
quarantine. So I do do really much. I also went, I did, I'm going to totally butcher the name of
this. It's either birria or birra. It's tacos. It's goat tacos. But that took a really long time
as well. I mean, have you got any really lasting food memories?
No, I just remember every summer,
mum used to have lots of summer parties
and it would always be so exciting
when I smelt all these herbs
because you were always making lots of different,
like different salads and you were dressing things.
Lots of Delia things, wasn't it?
Lots of Delia Smith, which was my first cookbook and i
still have it here mum and you've um how to cook how to cook on my 16th birthday and i've used it
the other day actually to make mayonnaise did you boil an egg well done shut up jesse i'll tell you
i bought duck eggs yesterday and they do the timing's really off they're more nourishing for
you mum they're very rich.
I love them, though. So what do you miss about old blighty and food here
that you just don't get in the States?
I miss a newsagent.
But I miss that like I miss a bodega in New York.
I like going into a shop and buying just a few bits.
And as you both know, I have a a chocolate problem and I love getting a few
like limp balls at the counter or whatever you can get and you can't do that when you go and
food shop here it's a massive undertaking you have to go to the car park you have to get out
you can't just run in somewhere because there's no you can in New York can't you you can and I
love that and um yeah I miss that a lot how long did you live in New York for, Han?
About seven years.
Do you miss it?
Do you prefer it?
Yeah, I really miss it.
No, I can't.
Well, I don't know, Mum.
No, I really like LA.
I like, you know, it's, you're going to roll your eyes out.
But I've become quite active and I quite like nature now, Mum.
I'm joking.
Oh, my God.
So I like hiking and things like that.
It's walking up a hill. Let's be honest. It's not like that it's walking up a hill let's be honest
it's not hiking i like walking up a hill yeah well that's that can be a workout and then you've
done it haven't you no i know but just i love that they say it's a hike it's walking up a fucking
small hill it's walking up a hill um so hannah yeah last supper you're about to go somewhere
for a very long time you're're about to have your favourite meal.
And you have a starter, a main, a pud and a drink of choice.
What are you going to go for?
I'd start with a martini, a vodka martini with a twist.
From anywhere in particular?
Actually, there is this corn vodka that I'm obsessed with.
Yeah, it's made of corn.
It's got such a wonderful taste, but I can't remember the name of it.
I'll get back to you on that one.
So I'd start with a really cold martini.
The glass would have had to be in the freezer.
Do you make your own martinis?
Yeah, Jonah makes great martinis.
He makes really good cocktails.
I like this boy.
But what's irritating with someone who's a really, really good,
I don't know, what do you call cocktail makers?
Mixologists.
So you're taught to smell everything.
And Jonah, when you're sort of unloading the dishwasher
or opening the fridge, he's always sniffing things.
And he said it's a habit from making too many cocktails.
And it just looks like he has some weird, it's just really irritating.
I find it quite off-putting when people smell their food. he has some weird it's just really i find it quite
um off-putting when people smell their food oh i think it's so disgusting i can't i can't it's
like you're suspicious of you're being given it seems ungrateful and precious and i hate it yeah
darling do you think you should tell people what it was like growing up with jesse and going on
holiday with her jesse was very at ease with being naked.
Yes.
Do you remember that?
I know!
Waggling her bum about.
And we went through a phase when Primarché was at the hype.
Primarch is, for our American audiences, the Target of England, the Target.
And there was this thing where we'd always buy the most exciting like fancy neon
underwear this is when we were like early teenagers and jesse would have no problem no matter how many
friends whether alex had a friend on holiday i did jesse did whether your goss was like fixing
the bathroom in our little jesse would just walk around completely naked with just a tiny like mermaid
thong on be happy not in a provocative way she just wanted to you know it was warm she just
wanted to be out there and i'd make the playlist her mix her playlist hannah her legendary i do
performances of dusty springfield you don't have to say you love me in her little mermaid thong or whitney so um sorry back to
last supper so we've we've actually just got up to the yeah i love we just got i love the priority
is the alcoholic drink but that's great amazing i'd have some color what are they calatrano
calatravo olives i should know those lovely olive no no no jonah what are the name of those olives i love
castle getrano they're gorgeous olives and then we i put them in loads of olive oil put lots of
salt on and then i infuse them with rosemary and orange peel and they're so delicious
and a few marcona almonds anyway we're just talking about bar snacks at the moment.
My first course would be, it would be a toss-up between a shrimp cocktail,
or I would like to start, if we're doing Italian, I'd do Vongole, like for my first plate.
It's really, you're not the first, you won't be the last.
Everybody says that.
I love Vongole, but you know why?
Sarah, our cousin, when I first moved to New York,
it was my birthday, I didn't really know anyone,
and she, our cousin's amazing,
and she'd always make a fuss of us,
and she was living in New York
and made me meet her at the top of Fred's,
which is Barney's restaurant.
Rest in peace, Barney's.
Because Barney's gone.
Has it gone?
Barney's gone, it's folded.
Oh, my God. I know, it's really sad, Mum. Barney's is Because Barney's gone. Has it gone? Barney's gone it's folded. Oh my god.
I know it's really sad mum. Barney's is a clothes store I thought. Yeah but they had a great
restaurant upstairs. It had a great restaurant and Sarah took me for my birthday and I had
vongole and we watched like ladies who lunch on Fifth Avenue and Sarah gave me a great tip she
said look at all their elbows she, you should always moisturise your elbows
because you can tell your age by your elbows and your neck.
So, Jessie, that's just food for thought.
Oh, my God, moisturise, darling.
That's a very good tip.
Yeah, remember the elbows.
Okay, so that's your starter.
That would be my starter.
And also, you did say shrimp.
I'm going to forgive you for that, but prawn cocktail.
Where do you get a good prawn cocktail?
Well, they say shrimp cocktail here, Jess. The tower shrimp cocktail the sunset tower i loved when you took
me to sunset tower i loved it too you love a sunset tower fish platter don't you like little
oysters i stayed there i love a raw bar yeah i like a seafood tower actually maybe that would
be my first i'd have a massive i love. I love. Oh, no, I forgot oysters.
I'd have to have oysters.
But I don't like the big ones.
I like the mini ones.
OK.
Mum's pulling a face.
You don't like oysters.
Oh, you know, I hate them.
Do you like them?
Oh, I love them so much.
I've learned to respect them and admire them.
And you don't love them.
I've learned to enjoy them.
Oh, my God.
It's like snot.
So, OK, we've. Wow, wow, this is luxe.
This is glamorous.
Okay, we're on starters.
Now, mains.
What's main?
Main would be, I'd do a steak free.
I've never even seen you eat steak free, ever.
I love a steak free.
You're chatting shit, Hannah.
No, I do a steak free.
You have a piece of fish.
No, I wouldn't.'t i'm not i don't
i'm done with fish especially if i'm gonna have it to start you've just had oh no sorry she's
eating the whole ocean in her starter that's why yeah um okay so state free i do a state free i'm
going rare really rare like alive blue yeah and a really good French fry. You know what? Where my fries would be from though?
Where?
McDonald's.
I love McDonald's French fries.
And guess McDonald's,
because we've ordered a lot of takeaway this year.
Fries don't travel well.
And the only ones that lasted the journey
were McDonald's fries.
So I'm going to go with McDonald's.
You got a McDonald's takeaway in lockdown.
I just got the fries.
Postmates is a wonderful thing, Jessie.
You can cherry pick. Yeah. It's like our Deliveroo, donald's takeaway and i just got the fries postmates is a wonderful thing jesse you can
cherry pick yeah it's like our deliveroo but kind of on a much better level um okay so pudding
because you're a big pud person um yeah i am a very big person can i have three yeah like a little
bit of everything a trio i do a tre leche cake, that Mexican cake.
Have you ever had that?
No.
No.
Oh, it's this soft, spongy, syrupy cake.
It's so delicious.
Where do you get it from?
Like, where do you go for it?
A Mexican place.
No, I get it, but where's your Mexican spot that you go to?
No, my favourite place to get it is just this chain bakery here called La Monarca.
It's not fancy at all, but it's delicious.
I'll take you, Jess, when you're here.
So I'd have that.
I'd have a budino, a salted caramel budino.
What's a budino?
A budino is, Jessie, explain it.
I don't know.
I made you have one at Jelena, that butterscotch-like mousse thing.
What, like an angel delight?
It's like a fancy Angel Delight.
Oh, why don't they just fucking call a spade a spade?
Call it Angel Delight.
God, do you remember Angel Delight?
We've got some here.
Does it still exist?
It's a packet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd have that, Bedino.
What's your third one?
Yeah, and I'd finish with a few of those lovely Batsy chocolates you used to get me,
which aren't fancy at all, but I love them.
Yeah, do you remember Batsy?
Mum used to always get me the little batchies
they're little Italian chocolates
which
and they'd always have
a little kiss
and they'd have love notes
or words of wisdom
they're like Italian fortune cookies
yeah
so that's
that's a decent
that's a decent
last meal
so it'd be a lot of seafood
a bit of steak
some McDonald's fries
and an array of desserts
nice
I like it
yeah
and I'd finish with a digestive, an amaro.
Oh, gee, now you sound like a wanker.
What's an amaro?
An amaro is an almond digestivo.
It's really nice.
Digestivo?
That's what Italians have after every meal.
Jesse, you would love it, actually.
Limoncello's is the most disgusting thing
I've ever had in my life.
You have it on ice.
Amaro, isn't it?
Actually, there's one, Jesse, there's one called Suze
The brand, look it up
I'll get you some, it's lovely
So listen Hannah
Because this, you know, this is a very unique situation
We're in at the moment
We are in a unique situation.
We asked some of our listeners to send in questions to ask you, Hannah, because we said you were coming on.
And so these are some of the questions.
This is from Jude Barnes.
Was there something funny or awful you did to Jessie when you were kids that you've never admitted to?
Well, I know one.
Well, I know one too
we'll talk about it let's go on about it tell the class everyone does know about this and i'm really
ashamed and it still makes me upset i'm and i'm going to apologize again jesse because i do
sometimes think about apology when you smile and it makes me upset okay well tell the class i my sister was splashing me from the bathroom there was no
privacy in our house so jesse was having a bath i was probably cleaning my teeth in the bathroom
and she was splashing me and i told her to stop she wouldn't listen so i smashed her head against
the bar i was seven awful i sent and i knocked her second teeth out yeah my front and mum's best friend claire orm
had to fish her teeth out the bath we sieved the bath with a teeth it was so disintegrated it is
in the book so don't worry it's so awful it's an omelette we can read all about it jesse never
recovered from it and i didn't i feel i still feel really guilty i'm really sorry i recovered
from it i i had to make it into a laughing thing i had a rave tooth that was never i know in the uv light we found each other in a club together when we were
teenagers jesse said look han they glow in the dark no they don't glow in the dark it doesn't
glow so then i look toothless again in a club so yeah yeah it's a really good look that you gave me
for the rest of my life yeah Yeah, so I did that.
That's really bad.
You know what else you did that night?
You gave me some bullshit, cuddly toy.
Did I?
Yeah, no, but as soon as I came back from the emergency dentist,
you asked for it back.
I'm so sorry.
It's really bad.
No, it is really bad.
Jessie, but you did pull Alex's arm out his socket on New Year's Eve.
I'm just saying.
Don't try it.
Yeah, she did.
She actually dislocated Alex's arm.
She pulled his arm out his socket.
But you know what?
The beautiful thing about an arm, it can pop back in.
My front tooth has gone forever.
But your teeth look nice, Jess.
Maybe I did you a favour.
Yeah, it's a fucking veneer that I had to spend ten grand on, i'm just charging you i'm sending you the bill let me see but jesse do you remember
that i actually got my um comeuppance when i years later i was chasing a boy on a bicycle in wales
and jesse was chasing after me because i think i was a liability even though I was older than her in a mini skirt from Kukai
and I fell in a bush
and knocked my teeth out.
No.
She chipped them.
No, listen.
Okay, so we used to have this place
in Abisoc
which people will know about.
It was called The Warren
and it was in the late 90s.
Blur and Oasis were at war
with Lives in a House,
very big house in the country and the
other one that oasis had and um it was the summer and it was like summer 1996 hannah was 13 and
hooch was very in fashion but i was more into diamond white oh the side you're classy yeah
that's what did that and all all the Manchester boys fancied Hannah
because she was this exotic Londoner that was there
because it was lots of Mancunians and Liverpudlians.
And then we were like the Londoners.
And we'd spend our summers there.
And everyone would cycle around.
It was very kind of wholesome apart from the hooch
and the following boys up the hills and stuff.
But anyway, Hannah, Alex Russell was his name.
Do you remember Hannah?
Alex Russell.
Alex Russell broke my heart.
Yeah, broke your heart and your tooth
because you fell over a speed bump with your bike
and I was following you because I was like the bloody security guard.
Jessie was such a sweet younger sister.
She was so worried about me.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, no shit.
You were like drunk
trying to cycle home and chase after a boy over speed bumps and what happened I caused
I chipped my teeth and it was so humiliating we had to leave early do you remember yeah because
you were neurotic about it and grandma you came in drunk and grandma was there my mom was terrible
she was so worried and you went i'm fucking drunk yeah it was really
good it's not one of them shipped you off to new york and never looked back um so okay this is
somebody else um somebody hasn't said their name on this one so you know how you jesse always say
your mom wouldn't let you cook growing up was Was that the same for Hannah? Oh, yeah.
She didn't let people in the kitchen.
I set the house on fire, didn't I?
I mean...
No, the attic.
Do you remember?
Yeah, I was not trusted.
Who saved the day?
Jessie.
I had to go into the burning attic
that you had decided to leave.
I wasn't burning.
No.
It was smouldering.
Oh, yes.
I left a light bulb on, a naked light bulb,
and Jessie dragged a flaming mattress down
have you ever seen the film Backdraft with Stephen Baldwin
yeah I was Stephen Baldwin
you had left the
fucking light on and mum had a naked bulb
I don't think health and safety would have allowed it
we had the shitty
the smell of a burning mattress
and guess who had to save the day Jessie, Toothless Jess yeah We had the shitty, the smell of a burning mattress. It's really specific.
And guess who had to save the day?
Jessie.
Toothless Jess.
Yeah.
You're welcome.
What about when Alex set the whole house alight because...
He wanted ambience in his room.
He was burning candles that you bought.
You'd made candles.
How have I made candles?
You had a candle kit and the wicks were
and you'd made candles.
And Alex liked an ambience in his room, didn't he?
Whilst he listened to Tracy Chapman.
Age 11.
And the candle burnt
through, set on fire a bottle of
ouzo that he'd got on
the shelf.
It exploded and set the curtains alight don't you remember anyway listen we really should talk about the reason that we we've got you
on the one can you say it we all say it wrong and no one knows what we're talking about what do you
mean oh we can't i can't say one either the number one is the number one the one we jesse and i have an affliction we say it
like we're from the north because mum's from manchester but it's it should be the one the one
should be one so listen you're in the one netflix show it started yeah you play rebecca you're the
main part you i've watched seven episodes i've got the last one to go it's really it's really thrilling you're
brilliant it's very odd to watch you on tv for anybody who hasn't watched it what can you give
them a little quick synopsis about what it's about it's about is ultimately a drama. It's not really sci-fi. So any sci-fi nerds, don't be too disappointed.
It's set in the near future
and it's about a dating app
that is invented by me,
who plays a scientist, believe it or not, Jess.
Go on, give me some of that jargon,
that like chemical jargon you had to say oh yeah all about
the ants and the pheromones yeah um it's um the the premise is that you can find your soulmate
just based purely on your DNA so that's really exciting for lots of single people because they
feel they have more of a chance of meeting their perfect match the one the one um but it also presents problems with
you know seemingly happy couples and i think that those storylines are really interesting because
there is actually a dating website that is already out that's based on that in japan
yeah you're joking they use your dna oh my god so it's not as far off as we think
but but Han
this was a really
successful book right
it was like a really
big international
bestseller the book
it's um
this show is based on
yeah I think it's a
really interesting premise
because if that did
actually get invented
what would you
I mean Jessie
Jessie's been with
her husband since
she was 17
would you be curious
would you take the test
probably because I've
had him for long enough.
I'd be able to see what else is out there.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I see.
So, yeah, and it's about kind of the...
It's about the repercussions of that,
whether you meet your match.
But also there's a way that I discover this
and the way I start the company.
And it's really about my character's this really successful CEO
because she started this phenomenon.
And it's about her having such ideological certainty about this being a product that the world needs and going to really extreme measures to prove to everyone that this is something that is essential to society and how ruthless I'll be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you watch it, everybody knows about it and everyone,
they talk about my match.
Oh, this is my match.
Yeah, it would almost be like Instagram.
As if it was just like Instagram.
It's like everybody does it.
It's not something that's unusual.
Or it just exists in the world and it's not unusual if you've done it or not.
No, yeah.
So yeah, it's out now on Netflix.
Go and watch it.
Hannah, we ask everybody about...
Jessie's saying this with a massive smirk on her face.
No, no, no, I'm not.
I hate karaoke because of Club Med in...
Oh, we used to go...
Do you remember when I made her sing the Whitney Houston one?
I can't believe we went to Club Med.
Do you remember when I snuck off with the Israeli in Club Med?
That wasn't in Club Med.
No, that was somewhere else.
That was in Israel.
That was in Israel.
He was gorgeous.
Gorgeous.
From the evening entertainment.
He was very cute.
Yeah, he was very cute.
Darling, we did have good holidays.
We had the best holidays.
We've always had fun.
But mum always found, like, bless her,
like, once mum and dad were broken up,
like, she loved holidays so much
that she wanted us to always go somewhere hot.
So it didn't matter where we were going
as long as it was hot.
Do you remember when we got wristbands in Jamaica?
Oh, God, did you?
God, that was amazing.
Yeah, Jamaica was...
No drink was served in anything other than, like, plastic.
Massive plastic cups.
That's horrible.
I thought I was going gonna catch an std in
the hot tub yeah it was awful it was cheap though wasn't it mum and we got a good experience out of
it darling you're gonna get it to scopalos this year i'm dying to what do you love about scopalos
fried zucchini with the garlic dip we're going to talk about don't do it anymore what do it anymore
why he lost weight the most Yeah, the restaurant guy.
So the bloke who's mulhoffs
is the restaurant.
I saw that tuna
and sort of Chinese julienned vegetables
appear on the table.
I thought,
this is a downhill slope.
Yeah.
It's going very Boca Raton.
Yeah.
Hannah,
do you think you've got good table manners?
I hope so,
but I'm not sure.
Do you think we were taught,
do you think we were brought up well
around the dinner table?
Yeah, I think we were.
Yeah, we were.
Bloody hell.
We were.
You were.
You know which knife and fork to use.
Of course we were, Jessie.
You know you wait till everyone's finished
before you clear the table.
It's an open question, Hannah.
Do you think you have good table manners, Jessie?
Not particularly.
No, she hasn't.
She's greedy.
I think we're really good guests
yeah i think you're right we learned from the best i know when to leave yes and when to like
keep the conversation going i think we're all three of us are really concerned about other
people's comfort and how to make it fun yeah i think you're right i was at dinner last night
and i think that we're not comfortable with any sort of silence,
whether it's comfortable or not.
But I think ultimately people like we take the load off will be like the entertainment.
We're that evening entertainment in an all inclusive.
Yeah, but because you two are so much, you're, I would say you're more extroverted.
Me? Do you think I am, darling?
Oh mum, this is, You're actually delusional,
but Mum doesn't think she's an extrovert.
But I didn't know till lockdown
that I really do like to be with people.
What are you talking about?
I feel that I've been freed
from the shackles of social obligation.
It's been, I mean, as bad as...
Free from the shackles of social...
It's like, oh, it's been such a relief.
You can just blame COVID now.
I'm so sorry.
I'm really not comfortable.
Hannah Ware,
you've been a cracking guest
on Table Manners.
Thank you so much
for being our guest.
Jessie's smirking
while she's saying that.
Darling,
I long to see you.
I long to see you, mum.
I miss mum so much, Jessie.
Don't,
I'm going to cry now.
Oh, Jesus,
get a grip, mum.
Oh, my God. She's crying. Should we, I'm going to cry now. Oh, Jesus, get a grip, Mum. Oh, my God.
She's crying.
Should we just get Dr Alex to zoom in now, too?
Thank you very much for being on Table Manners.
I love you, my darling.
I love you, too, Mum.
Love you, Jessie.
Love you, finally.
I'm so proud of her, Jess.
I'm proud of both of you, but I'm proud of her this week.
She needs a little more pride this week.
As am I.
Everyone go and watch uh the one on netflix
um we've had loads of emails regarding asking hannah ware questions but also
in response to the dan levy episode we're so glad that so many of you loved it
um about the pret a manger sitch this is from somebody called Jessica Lee. Hi, Jesse and Lenny. Loved your episode today.
I wanted to say I've had a whole lunch for free from Pret and two free drinks. Oh, well, whoopee
do, Jessica Lee. Apparently the staff are allowed to give someone a comp once a day. That's what the
guy said to me when I asked why I didn't need to pay. It's a really sweet, fun thing. Well, good
for you, Jessica. Maybe like I need to frequent it. Okay really sweet fun thing well good for you Jessica maybe like I need to
frequent it okay we've had Donna who got a free coffee in the Uxbridge prep once and she said it
was because she was the last customer of the day big kiss a lot of our um listeners have had that
free prep coffee a bit gels oh this was one of my faves now look lots of people have had a lot to say about the pizza hut cookie dough
on the lydia west episode this is quite a bold statement holly brownlee jesse and lenny i'm
convinced i invented this cookie dough trend which became internet famous about four years ago and
then pizza hut added the hot cookie dough or something to their menu so basically holly
brownlee dr brownlee as of graduation in June,
Musseltoff,
says that basically she's been doing this,
putting it in a ramekin
and like making it go toasty on the top
and then taking it out
whilst it's still goo in the middle.
She serves this Alamode
and would make them as a treat,
still do.
But basically she says that she,
I will claim this title
of being the official origin of hot
cookie dough eating so thank you so much for that statement holly brownlee i'm sure pizza hut will
have something to say about that okay so i feel like this person's taking the piss she's called
lauren for kings she's taking the piss because it's table manners no i mean i like this girl
i like i like it it thought i'd share something
with you after listening to your recent podcast i used to work at pizza hut when i was 16
thought i'd share my age so i give you a bit more context thank you so much lauren forkins
when a customer would order a cookie dough dessert it's the waitress's responsibility
to put the ice cream on it before serving i used to scoop the middle part out and eat it then oh my god she'd like
steal it off the bloody yeah i used to scoop the middle part out and eat it then fill it with ice
cream then serve i can report it's one of the best desserts out there so she'd steal it off
the bloody middle yeah you cheeky cow yeah Cookie Dough has had so much conversation going.
I can't really believe how much discussion.
I do feel like we need to try it still.
It's been so nice having emails from people.
You're such a brilliant bunch.
And just thank you so much for listening and getting in touch.
It's so nice to hear from you.
See you next week.
Thank you for listening.
The music you've heard on Table Manners is by Peter Duffy and Pete Fraser.
Table Manners is produced by Alice Williams.