Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S11 Ep 2: Eva Longoria

Episode Date: January 20, 2021

Back in September, we talked to the delightful Eva Longoria. At the time of our chat over Zoom, she was working hard campaigning for Joe Biden to become President.  With her own cookbook having come out in 2011, we talked recipes, cooking after long flights and she taught us how to make her ‘4 minute chicken taco recipe’. The Desperate Housewives star offered up tips on how to make banana bread and she loves a strawberry rhubarb pie, stockpiling rhubarb in her freezer. She also told us what a dab hand David Beckham is in the kitchen and how he taught her how to make shepherds pie - with the addition of tomato ketchup.We discuss growing up in South Texas, why 'life’s too short to drink bad wine’ and her penchant for caviar.She also manages in a short space of time to teach us a table manner or two. Enjoy! X Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm sitting right next to my mum, Lenny. Yes, you're very close darling. Too close? No, not too close. I'm glad you've made an effort with the lipstick because I was about to outshine you because we're sitting next to each other. People just compare and think I'm the younger one. Anyway, we are next to each other because we've decided this actually works better and

maybe my mum will shout less during the Zoom podcast. Yeah. So we're giving it a try. However, the next episode that you're about to hear, we recorded way back when, in 2020, when we were on another, well, we weren't able to go to America to chat to this fine woman. So we did a Zoom. We did a Zoom. Was it November or October? We chatted to Eva Longoria

in September, 45 days before the US election which she was very heavily involved in campaigning. And we didn't know which way it was going to go. We didn't at the time. Who knew? But perhaps due to Eva Longoria's campaigning, that's what... No, shout out to

Stacey Abrams. I think Stacey has won over on Eva. But Eva was very busy campaigning for Joe Biden at the time. So we didn't actually get that long with her. Hence why it's a short but sweet episode. Because, I mean, you know how I feel about tardiness. But she was 14, 15 minutes late to jump on the call. But it's okay because she's beautiful.

She chatted about food and we forgave her. She taught a lot. It's one of our most foodie podcasts. And she helped move the election in the right way. Anyway, so what have you been up to, Mum? Not a lot, darling. I've been cooking and watching and not reading very much. Don't you find all you talk about is what you've seen on telly?

All I talk about is what I've seen on telly. Or what you've eaten or what you might eat that evening that's what friends ring up and they say what's she going to have for your tea what does she have for your lunch and that's all you can talk about because you're doing bugger all else what have you been watching mom i've been watching the serpent amazing which i think is wonderful brilliant need to know if jenna coleman did french gcse or a level that's all i need to know she is so i've been watching the serpent i'm still watching better things because it's my before i go to bed at night that's what i did too does it remind you of how we treated you

when we were younger worse you're worse i wasn't no you weren't as political you weren't as political as frankie oh i love frankie yeah this is actually this is a call out i actually slid into pamela adlands the creator and writer and star of better things i slid into her dms and instagram because she'd ignored my um worshipping of her and i just said hey i do this podcast we talk about food we're jewish are you gonna get her she didn't bloody reply what's wrong with her that obviously slipped she probably doesn't reply to dm she probably thinks you're a lunatic absolutely i know and so if anybody who listens to this podcast has access to pamela somehow can we love can we do something about this

because I'm desperate to talk to that woman I love her me too um you wait until you get to the end of I think it's either the second or third series and it is have you got to that I'm on series three now all you say is Christine and the Queens and then you'll know okay no anyway you need to watch that and also Celia Emery I would really love to chat to. So we're all watching TV. We're all watching series. We've all watched Bridgerton, I think. And we were interested

to get some more telly suggestions. So we put out on Instagram question, tell us your telly suggestions. We've had so many suggestions, many of which mum and I have already watched like everybody else. Bridgerton, obviously. But there are some that we

haven't heard of and I feel like this is the like Australian contingent of people that listen to us I think so so here are some suggestions The Heights from Joe Ashworth says The Heights is an Australian TV series and it's mint also this was something that Grimmie told me to watch but somebody else has Hazel suggested this married at first sight Australia and I hear season six is a killer oh Lupin I haven't watched that on Netflix yet it's French isn't it Lupin Lupin oh back to life well we've done that well Daisy Haggard is amazing and also it's Chris Sweeney who has been a guest twice um he directed it he's the co-host of Homo Sapiens,

the podcast, which is brilliant, with Alan Cumming. And he also directed Back to Life and it is really brilliant. Succession, someone suggested, I did this in lockdown. I want to go out with Kendall. I want to save him.

I want to make sure that he's okay. I want to get him off the drugs and I then want to go on that fucking yacht. I think he's given up the drugs. He just needs a good woman. Me. Thank you so much for all your recommendations. We're going to read some more out

at the end of this episode. The gorgeous Eva Longoria coming up on Table Manners. Eve Longoria you are looking beautiful in your lake house in outside of Mexico City you you look fantastic and you have about 10,000 things going on in your house at the same time. I can feel that, and this is just one of the things that you're going to be doing in the day.

How busy is today? Today's crazy. This next 45 days are crazy because of the elections here in the United States. So yeah, yesterday, when was it? I see, I don't even know. But I flew to Orlando to campaign with Joe Biden, came back. I mean, just went for the day, came back to Mexico. I'm going to, I think, Pennsylvania for one day, coming back. You know, a lot of podcasts and interviews via Zooms and things about the elections and making sure people are registered to vote and

it's just so important things are things are a mess in the world aren't they yep we've got our own shit show here Eva but you know I think yours is just slightly bigger than ours at the moment he's trumping us I think yeah you're trumping us yeah well. Well done, darling. Thanks, mum. Yeah. Eva, we have, so this podcast is, it's about lots of different things, but predominantly it's about food and family. And I know you've got a cookbook of your own, Eva's Kitchen, which is very much like the tagline is like, Eva's Kitchen, food for my family and my friends.

And it's about, you know, where you've traveled and the stuff, you know. So I would love to know, what is the meal that when you come back from a day of campaigning, a flight, what's the thing that you're going to go and open up in the fridge and what you're dying to eat? It must be wine o'clock over there

where you are already, yeah? Oh, yeah. What do you think's in this water flask? No, yes, I have a cookbook. And it was like a memoir of my life told through food and my travels around the world. And I'm just, I love cooking. It's so therapeutic for me. It's so therapeutic.

And it's so funny you say that. Every time I land from a flight, whether it's from, you know, Texas to California, which is only three hours, or if I'm landing from Dubai, which is a 17 hour flight, the first thing I do is get in the kitchen and cook. It's the one thing that just makes me feel at home and like, oh, this is so relaxing. And my husband always makes fun of me. He's like, we just got off a 17 hour flight. How are you making a meal right now? And I'm like, I have to get in my kitchen. And but yeah, my probably go to I cook everything. I mean, from shepherd's pie to tacos to a French butter sauce, like I just cook everything. But probably my go to because of my husband is chicken tacos. He loves

my chicken tacos. And I make them like in four minutes. I mean, they're so fast. And I just make them and whip up a guacamole and a salsa and we're good to go. So what's your secret ingredient in your chicken tacos, your four minute chicken taco? That I'm Mexican. That's the that's the secret. No, I'm all fucked. Fine. No, you know what I do? I make a lot of things in advance. And so I have a tomatillo salsa that you can make whenever and you put it in the fridge. And so that's like tomatillos and serrano peppers and garlic and onion and cilantro. And so you make that and it's like you make a I make a big jar of it. And so when you're making your chicken tacos, all you got to do is throw

in some chicken and you pour that salsa on it. It's literally, that's it. And you heat up your tortillas. So I think prep, prep is a big, uh, key to my, my cooking. I have everything ready. I, I don't know if you, you guys have rhubarb over there, you know, like rhubarb. Yeah, love it. Oh, I love strawberry rhubarb pie. And because rhubarb's in season for like a month of the year, um, I buy so much rhubarb, I chop it up and's in season for like a month of the year um i buy so much rhubarb i chop it up and i freeze it and so i can make strawberry rhubarb pie or tarts any time of the year because i have it in the freezer and it's ready to go and same thing with banana bread i

make a lot of banana bread when your bananas go bad and so i peel you have to peel the banana when it's black it has to be black and then you put them in ziplocks and you freeze it and then they're ready to go to make banana bread whenever you want that's a really good idea but i bet your freezer's the size of that room i actually need another freezer i keep telling my husband gracias someone's just come in with a bit of food i think i'm so hungry i haven't eaten but i'm just gonna leave this what you having? I'm just having some oatmeal. I was just going to have a bite because it was the quietest thing I could eat on a podcast. Oh my God. Eat, eat, eat.

No, please. But also answer some questions. What time of day is it there? 12. It's just like I woke up. My son woke up very early this morning because he pooped. So I went in, changed him and then put him back down. And so I was just, I was screwed. He went back and so that I was just I was screwed he went back to sleep I was screwed I was like whoa so uh but yeah it's uh it's noon right now

so this is my breakfast because I went worked out played with him I was I love the the only upside to this pandemic has been spending so much time with my son. Eva, did Victoria Beckham teach you how to make shepherd's pie? No, David did. David makes shepherd's pie. Is he a good cook? David's a great cook. He didn't teach me, but he told me the trick is ketchup. Ketchup goes in it.

And then we have it with pickle on the side, but we have like the Branston pickle, like the English pickle that's kind of... Brown. It's brown pickle. It looks very upsetting, but it's delicious in a cheese sandwich or with shepherd's pie. But yes, I think the tomato ketchup, that's a good trick. Yeah.

So have you taught David to cook as well? Can he do great tacos? I don't think I've taught David anything. No, but he's really good. He makes a good bolognese and he's very much into cooking. You can see from his Instagram. Victoria always introduces me to new things like, there was these crackers. I forgot what they were, but I was just like, what is that? Like, she's always hip to the newest, newest healthy food. I want to know because Mexico City has such a food scene I

mean I I've heard so much about it are there any places that I mean are things open there like are you going out to eat are you just staying in but if if you were to go out where's the place that any everyone should go to in Mexico City my My favorite place, which is closed right now, is called Silvestre, which is in Mexico City, Polanco, and it's just Mexican food. So you have sopa de fideo, which is like a, not spaghetti, but it's like noodles. It's like a Mexican noodle. And you can have it in a soup or you can have it dry. There's, of course, tacos, tacos, tacos, tacos. I mean, you can't get a bad meal in Mexico City especially if you're a foodie there's amazing amazing food scene here in Mexico like the really Michelin star level to the street taco level so you really have a good range in Mexico City of

of anything so Eva growing up um you grew up in Texas. Yeah, Texas, Texas, yeah. So I want to know, because Texas, again, has such great food as well, like the barbecue there and everything. What was it like growing up in Texas, being Mexican and having all this different food around you? And what are some of the earliest food memories you have? Oh, my gosh. Well, you know, I grew up in South Texas, which is near

the border from Mexico. And so there's a cuisine there called Tex-Mex, which is not Mexican and not Texas. So it's a hybrid. And when I married my husband, who's Mexican from Mexico, he just doesn't understand it. He's like, this is not Mexican food. I'm like, it is Mexican food. He's like this. I've never seen this in my life. So like, you know, in South Texas, Tex-Mex, actually in all of Texas, it's a big thing, but really in South Texas, Tex-Mex is part of the culture. We have these things called breakfast tacos, which are, I guess, kind of like burritos, but you have potato and egg or chorizo and egg or bean and cheese or and they come in a flour tortilla. So it's this thick flour tortilla. And in Mexico, most areas of Mexico eat corn tortillas. So it's a very, very big difference. Even here, I have to make I have to make my own flour tortillas because

in Mexico, they're like, no. And if they do sell flour, flour tortillas, they're very thin, they're super, super thin, like almost translucent. And they're good. It's just they're not what I grew up with, which is almost like a pita. I mean, that's how thick it is. It's like a very thick tortilla. And it's meat heavy, you know, in Texas. Everything's meat, meat, meat, meat, meat.

Barbecue and sausage and brisket. I loved it. Yeah, it's so good. When I was on tour, because I'm a singer, when I'm not doing this podcast, I'm a singer. And, and, and I was on tour in Texas, and I made the bad mistake of having a massive barbecue before I went on stage, which was the worst idea, because like, you just belch the whole night. And I mean, I don't need to get into me burping, you know, barbecue up. But I mean, it was quite delicious, but it was really off-putting to be singing ballads.

But yeah, I mean, can I just ask, if you're from Texas, I just presume everyone from Texas loves Friday Night Lights. Have you ever watched Friday Night Lights? You know, I've never seen it. Isn't that crazy? Have you heard about it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard about it. It's our favorite program.

And I lived it, by the way. I think I lived it. According to and I live favorite program and I lived it by the way I think I lived it according to the blog line I think I lived that experience so I was like I should watch it I hear it's good you should watch it's so good wait is it Friday Night Lights the movie or the TV show the TV show you've got to watch the TV show and you've got to give it a few few episodes it's a little moody at the first it's not that good but we love it it's just like pure like switch off just lovely we'll maybe bring you back to being in Texas being a teenager going to see the football matches on the Friday you know hanging out at the diner after I don't know this is my idea of heaven I don't know if this actually happens does your little boy like Mexican food

he likes everything which is so everything everything winner there even I know I have a winner I have a winner that's why I'm not having any more because I'm like uh he's pretty perfect but no he eats he eats what we eat and um the only thing is he's not into spicy food yet and that's a big thing in Mexico spicy spicy food. So he, you know, we even our Cheetos and Doritos and all that is hot here. It's all very spicy. And he he's like, ah, he doesn't like it yet. And usually if you're a true Mexican baby, it's in your bottle. We ask everybody on our podcast, if they were going to have a meal. It was going to be a starter, main and dessert.

But you know the word pudding because you have British friends and a drink of choice. What would it be? And this can be, you know, anything. And it's kind of a last supper before you're about to go to a desert island or, you know, you're about to not. Yeah. So it can be somebody cooking for you you it could be it could be from all over Anthony from Queer Eye did a whole day of eating so you can do whatever you like oh see I love a charcuterie plate don't even don't put some cheese in front of me like a charcuterie plate with jamón ibérico and prosciutto and grapes and figs, fig spread, a fig jelly and crackers. Like I could, that could be a whole meal for me and a glass of wine. Uh, so like a charcuterie plate with really soft breeze. That's what it has to be. Very soft cheeses and Parmesan. Parmesan brings out the red wine tastes,

tastes in the red wines. Um, so I would have that like at at 6 30 or 7 and then when it comes to dinner yeah i like this thinking i yeah yeah yeah i i love i love a caviar and that's a splurgy kind of dinner i love caviar i love i love i love it but is that a dinner that's like a little no a little that would be a snack. That's the starter. Okay, good. How would you have it? On a blini with lemon and the creme fraiche, of course, and chives and egg white, egg white chunks. Yeah, I mean, my husband actually thinks caviar is a meal, but that's like my splurgy once every six months meal, but this is my dream

meal, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I want to know, where did you like first encounter caviar that really made you think that it was something that you had to have every year? Because I, I don't think I've probably ever had it proper. I think mum, I don't think so. I kind of always imagine it kind of being like a bond, Russian bond themed night and you'd be there with your vodka. And I don't know, I kind of haven't had quite the occasion really with my hippie husband. God, I don't remember the first time I had caviar, but I remember somebody taught me how to eat it. Like you have to, if you just eat it like that, sometimes it's like, and it has to be good caviar. So you've got to know the, and all of that stuff, which I still don't know all of it, but, uh, it's, yeah,

my husband and I, that's something we we've shared is, um, wine. We're, we're big winos. We're big alcoholics. And then, um, and then caviar as a starter, like a little blini. Do you have vodka with the caviar as a starter, like a little blini. Do you have vodka with the caviar? No, I usually have a champagne. I usually have like a champagne. Yeah. And then I would move on to like a white fish with any kind of like lemon butter caper sauce. I love lemon butter caper sauce. Like it's just so good.

It is delicious. So there's no mexican food in this at the moment or texan food i can see really no yeah i thought you'd be having big big steak oh i love a steak though i love a steak um i i think it's because i'm in mexico right now and i've eaten tacos every day for the last eight months of quarantine so i'm kind of fair enough i'm fantasizing about somewhere else right now uh and I love a sorbet for uh dessert I love us I'm not a I'm not a dessert person my husband is he's a big sugar like what's for dessert what's for like he can't wait for dessert and I could do without I'm not a

I'm a salty person I like salt you're the cheese and cheese and charcuterie girl. Yeah. And then wine, regarding wine, I mean, any like red, white, I mean, is there a particular bottle that we should absolutely try if we haven't tried in our life? So many. So many. Life's too short. Life's too short to drink bad wine. I know. You know what?

I think lockdown has made me realize this. And I have really upped my game with drinking and drinking good wine I mean I'm I love a red wine I mean I love a cab I love a Napa Valley cab I mean that's probably my favorite region and uh after that would be Italy Super Tuscans you know Masettos and Ornalia Sasakaya I mean all of those God, they're just so good. But you seem like a very good friend. She's like a sommelier. Yeah, I feel like I could really benefit from this relationship

if I was to have dinner out with you. We'd be having caviar and fucking great wine and trying to save the world. But yeah, okay, fine. So we've got your we've got your um last supper okay i want to know when you were growing up when you were growing up though were your parents cooking were they big cooks is that how you were influenced by kind of this joy of cooking and what were they cooking for you yeah so my aunt was a caterer so she would cater weddings

and um she would uh uh make us all work her. Like we'd all have to go work the wedding or work the, you know, bar mitzvah, I don't know, whatever it was. And so that's where I learned how to cook was from my aunt Elsa. And I remember, and my mom, my mom cooked, but she just made us figure it out ourselves. I remember I was like six and I was like, mom, my mom cooked, but she just made us figure it out ourselves. I remember I was like six and I was like, mom, I'm hungry. And she's like, well, you better figure it out because I don't have time to keep cooking for each of you kids. And I remember pushing a chair up to the stove and lighting it, turning on the gas. It was one of those stoves where you turn on the gas and then light the match, which I was like, I don't think a six-year-old should be, maybe have matches and

turning on gas and light, you light it. And then I made myself an egg and it was the, probably the worst egg ever because it had shell, it had the shell in it and everything. But I remember feeling a sense of accomplishment, like, oh my God, I made this. Like I made this. And from that moment on, I was hooked and I've, I've cooked my entire life. My mom remembers I was like nine making my own pasta sauces. I would get tomatoes and I was so into cooking. And then my aunt obviously pushed it along when she made us work for her. So everybody's a big cook. So when did your cookbook come out oh god so long ago i actually 2011 would you do another one or you kind of feel like yeah no i would and i should have done them

right back to back to back to back because i i have so many recipes that didn't even make it into the book. But it's so much work. Making a cookbook, you think it's just, here's a recipe, you have to test it. You have to get a tester. We know that one. Eva, before we let you go and get on with your day, we have some really important questions to ask you, such as what is your karaoke song?

Oh, my karaoke song is Sir mix a lot i like big butts oh yes yes yeah that's a great one yeah and i i always do it a lot of words yeah i do it because uh my girlfriend has a big butt and i always i was like this is for you claudia and she's like oh my god stop saying that that one. That one, I like big butts. I like big butts and I cannot lie. That one and LL Cool J's for I Need Love. Oh, how's that one? When I'm alone in my room, sometimes I stare at the wall

and in the back of my mind, I hear my conscience call telling me I need a girl who's as sweet as a dove for the first time in my life. I see I need love. He's like, I mean, but I'm like, I'm a lover of the 80s. I mean, I used to love how he used to lick his lips, LL. He did a good lick of the lip, didn't he? He still does that.

He still does. I was presenting with him at some award show and he's like, hey, nice to meet you. And I was like, oh, that's just your thing. Okay, okay. How has COVID um impacted on your film philanthropic work and your charities because I know a lot of charities are you know really suffering with kind of COVID and the pandemic but has it affected your charities

it does it does in the in the fundraising aspect we're used to having events and galas and, you know, visiting the places that we're actually supporting and meeting the people. And that's what I miss about it. I will say, though, for the Evil and Gory Foundation, we've actually been able to help more people because we're virtual. So, you know, we've kept everything, moved everything online and virtually. And that's really allowed us to have more reach and allows other people to have more access. And so I think it's a model that forced us

to look at how we program differently. And as a lot of people, as businesses, businesses have been pivoting to a different business model because of COVID and everybody. And so I think it's actually a good thing. That's what I think. Last but not least, have you got good table manners, Eva? Yes, I do.

You know, I was a pageant girl in Texas. And we had to go to etiquette class. And, you know, you soup soup away away from you and uh where your napkin goes and they taught us like at the table the table is your bed so it's uh your bread your entree and and your drink so like you know when you sit down and you go is that is that my bread is that my drink which one's my drink and uh but if you go this is your bed so that's the bread your bread plate is to the left and your and your water or your drink is to the right so that's how you know that still doesn't make me remember it though either how does because i never have a bread roll of my bed oh jesse i brought you up properly

can you just explain to me how i can remember that with like how I know how to do lefts and rights because that's an L yeah so hold on oh that's good yeah yeah very it's a good one I still get it wrong um yeah okay so the table is your bed and the drink is on your right and the bread roll I mean yeah I'm yeah okay fine I'll try and I'll try and find a hooky line to be able to but I like the table is your bed so did you win your did you win your um pageants I did of course she did of course she bloody did she's gorgeous Jess did you have to sing no I didn't have to have a talent but I tell you the first pageant I went in was a scholarship pageant and I just did it because I needed money for school. And I remember

I wanted to get like fifth place because fifth place was books, like they would pay your books. And I said, if I could, if I could just get fifth place. So what did you do at university? What did I study? Yeah. Oh, education, kinesiology. Were you a teacher? I was going to be. Yeah, I was going to be. And then I said, I'm going to be an actor. And then I left to Los Angeles. But did you get first place then with the pageant? So you didn't get the books. You got number one.

And what happens when you- Oh, I got tuition, books, school, boarding, everything. Everything. And I was like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. That was crazy. I didn't even invite anybody to the pageant. Not even my mom was there. Because I told my mom my mom mom I'm going to be in a pageant she goes oh honey are you sure that's a good idea because she thought I was going to lose and be disappointed

do they do they still have pageants with all the kind of oh yeah yeah they do yeah you know what I would tell you you know pageants for me taught me so much because it it it taught you how to have a platform and what are your beliefs and how do you communicate that? thing for me, as opposed to, I can see where people protested of like, it's objectification of women and they're running around in a swimsuit. I totally get that as well. But for me, I was at an age where I really absorbed it for the positive confidence it gave me in speaking and in interviews. It was mostly in interviews so i could i could uh go anywhere for interview for a job and knew i would be okay because i had interview training you know eva it's been such a pleasure to chat to you and good luck with all the campaigning and we hope we get to meet you at some point um in the future face to face and good and we'll have some wine

oh my god can we nice to meet you you too you too thank you so much what a beautiful woman and to think that david David Beckham has taught her most of her cooking skills is a revelation to me. Imagine David Beckham ghostwriting Eva Longoria's cookbook. Yeah, saying, Eva, add a bit of this and add a bit of that. A bit of ketchup. So loads of you have been writing to us. You're very funny. We like you very much.

We'd like to have you all round for dinner at some point. So we asked you to ask us anything. We wanted telly suggestions and food suggestions on our Instagram. And we had a lot of messages back. One of which was brilliant. So this is from, I don't know, should I keep her anonymous? It can be like, dear Dolly. Then I'll say she's called Lucy.

All right. My boyfriend didn't like apricot chicken should i dump him yeah really yeah some people don't like sweet with savory mom yeah i would not go with a person like that i'd be very suspicious and actually you know what it it's a really good recipe that's why i'm slightly suspicious it usually turns even people with a complete aversion to sweet and fruit with savoury I don't know I'm on the fence depends how long you've been with him did you like it Lucy Marie more importantly um lots of people have asked how Dr Alex is coping well mum he doesn't call you anymore does he he's staying away because he's now on an emergency rota so he does three long days on three days off three

nights on three days off i think the message is wear your mask and let me see my alex please because otherwise the longer this goes on the longer i won't see him well like lots of other people too all right talking about me at the minute um mama this one's for you actually and dead edgy babe that's me no no i mean you are dead edgy i guess and you are a babe but yeah so mum shag marry avoid or kill yeah wow i didn't know kill was ever in it but i'm not killing anyone well you may want to when you hear the lineup matt hancock gavin williamson and grant chaps who would you shag none of them jesse okay that's not the game jesse i'm a labor supporter

oh would you shag jeremy corbyn then no darling right so come on then um i think that's a little crude for me okay so kiss marry or avoid who would you kiss out of matt hancock gavin williamson and grant chaps i can't okay i've actually started to feel a little vomity who would you kiss out of? Matt Hancock, Garen Williamson and Grant Chaps. I can't. I've actually started to feel a little vomity. Who would you marry? I wouldn't marry any of them. They're twerps. Okay.

Who would you avoid? All of them. All right. That went well. Will there be a second cookbook? Not if you want this podcast to carry on. It nearly killed us.

So just enjoy the fruits of our labor with uh i want to say to all the vegetarian and vegans i have been accruing lots and lots of vegan recipes and i'm very excited for the next vegan that comes along that's going to have my chestnut stifado why did you have to make it dirty it's chestnut stifado. Why did you have to make it dirty? It's chestnut stifado. You missed the way that you said stifado. It was slightly filthy. That's supposed to be a bit Greek.

What would your drag queen names be? I don't know. How do you make a drag queen name? Mum, we need to do better than that. Really? Actually, we'd love your suggestions. That would be really, really great. I'm on drag race soon. Are you? When, when darling i think in a couple of weeks i can't wait it was so fun but i'm slightly worried that i was too harsh

i was taking it quite seriously jesse harsh there's already jody harsh mom okay yeah okay any meal tips for those who are living on their own getting stuck in cooking ruts well i cook every night yeah always you're on your own and I'm on my own and then I share it out there's our neighbor so I made lovely pepperonata yeah which was dead easy and it'll last a couple of days lamb chops um that is quite a good point mum actually maybe if you're on your own and you can afford to maybe make a bigger dish so you feel like you're cooking for somebody and then drop it round to a mate. That's quite nice.

I know you're doing it, but it's quite a nice suggestion for other people. I do it for other people or you, darling. Ooh, somebody suggested, Gooders81 suggested Rick Stein's egg curry, simple, quick and delicious. That sounds right up my street. I love Rick Stein.

We used to have that at school, egg curry. Marmite pasta pasta sofiola it's the best thing for children to feed them quickly i love how was the marmite hummus didn't try it looks disgusting it's a pound apart jess that is why you gave it to me that sounds horrendous like it was on offer i wouldn't it wasn't on offer whatpsy tart, Aaron? Oh, there is a gypsy tart. I know what gypsy tart is. Gypsy tart's like a caramel-y tart. Muscovado sugar.

Made with evaporated milk. It's very, very slimming. Great, perfect. How was my chocolate cake yesterday? For a recipe from Auntie Liz, I'm going to halve the sugar. Actually, it brought my husband's heart rate up double for two hours he usually has a resting heart rate of like 50 and it was like 95 or

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