Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S11 Ep 25: Annie Murphy

Episode Date: June 30, 2021

This week, we zoom into Central Park to chat to the delightful Annie Murphy! We talk to dear Annie about the fact she nearly gave up on acting before getting the role of everyone’s favourite sister, Alexis Rose in Schitt's Creek. Growing up in Canada, Annie tells us about adoring Fawlty towers and Columbo, her Mum’s edible ‘contraption’ and dreaming of fondue in Paris. All washed down with a good glug of beer as Annie teaches Lennie what IPA is. Annie next time you’re in town, it’s a Ruby Murray and a Stella with Lennie and Jessie! X Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm not stressed at all. How are you mum? Well I'm feeling okay darling, I've been out for lunch. I'm having a bit of a staycation and I've been out for dinner every night since Friday and lunch. Where did you go today? Abbeyville Road, New Ground, had a grain bowl. Surprised everyone eating quinoa and kale with turmeric hummus and it was very tasty and very nice.

Shall I tell you why I'm a bit stressed? Is it because you've got a new album out, a new book out, you're doing 88 podcasts and 20,000 interviews, could that be it? Oh and you're pregnant. Oh and I just started a kitchen renovation too today oh good yeah it's a lot darling you're not actually doing the building work oh oh yeah so sue me i'm 30 bloody seven weeks pregnant yeah i'm not gonna start not seeing you with a pickaxe i haven't seen you bloody lift the chair to get sam bought it yeah anyway hopefully this guest will put us in a better mood won't put me in a better mood. Oh, she's put...

Do you know, I watched it again last night, a few little shitscrete, and I miss Alexis so much. She's just the most perfect character. In fact, I wonder if our guest, Annie Murphy, misses Alexis too, because she was so fabulous. Alice, how do you say ooh? ooh oh I've got the perfect person

right here Manon oh my god we have Manon producer Alice's daughter waiting the wings to just give a quick ooh flex her ooh how does she do what she do ew David are you David That was very good, Manon. Thank you. So, yeah, we have Annie Murphy coming up on Table Manners. You know, we gave you Dan Levy, and now we're giving you Annie Murphy. AKA Alexis Rose. Annie Murphy's in a new series. What's it called? Kevin can go and F-expletive, expletive, expletive himself. Mum came in and went, Kevin can go and f expletive expletive expletive himself mom came

in and went kevin can go and fuck himself and i went what who's kevin we all know how much we love schitt's creek it got me through lockdown and particularly alexis rose's character alexis is perfect all the little bits that annie murphy added to alexis with the nose touch with the pointed finger with the oh david and um and just you know she nearly quit acting before she got that part she hadn't had a part for ages her house had burnt down yeah and she thought this is it i'm giving up and then she got alexis rose but i feel like that's quite a similar story for many of the people in that series they were kind of

all people that maybe thought that they weren't a bit fed up they were a bit fed up with it all exactly really excited about

speaking to Annie Murphy me too can't wait your glasses are filthy darling sorry anyway Annie Murphy coming up on Table Manners.

Annie Murphy looking absolutely gorgeous is zooming in from New York. Thank you for being here. We are so excited to chat to you. So excited so excited well thank you for having me ladies well we just love Schitt's Creek got me through the whole of lockdown I can just tell you and I've started to re-watch it again because it was too good the first one and I just loved it so much and you, I don't want to say this because I do love Dan Levy, but I think Alexis was everyone's favourite character, really. Oh, my gosh. Don't you think, Jess?

Well, I mean, look, I feel like you said nearly the same thing to Dan Levy when he was on the podcast, but we'll forget about that. Alexis kind of, it was a combination of her innocence and yet her lack of, kind of lacking streetwise, but streetwise at the same time and kind of an ingenue really in a way to the world and what the world could offer and all the possibilities away from the trappings of wealth. And it was so lovely. What a poetic description. Yeah, I know that was rather poetic. Was it? Thank you. I just thought it was gorgeous.. What a poetic description. Yeah, I know, that was rather poetic. Was it? Thank you.

I just thought it was gorgeous. We just loved you. You just said more about Alexis Rose than you did at my wedding. Anyway, enough about us. How are you? You've got something new to promote. Wow.

I do. I'm in New York. I'm overlooking Central Park, feeling very fancy right now. I'm here to promote a show, are we, question, are we allowed to have a swear on, okay good so my new show is called Kevin Can Fuck Himself

it's on AMC it's a very dark comedy about so you know the sitcom husband that we've grown used to over the years, the kind of schlubby, beer-drinking, sports-loving doofus? Yeah. It's not about him for once.

It's about his wife that we don't – we know that she's there. We know that she serves sandwiches and she kind of provides the setup for a joke or is the butt of a joke. But we have never really gotten to know her in the past. So this show follows the sitcom Wife. And what's really exciting about it is that when we're with Kevin, we're in full sitcom mode. So it's bright set, canned laughter, terrible corny jokes. And then when we follow Alison out of the room, the show turns to a really gritty, really dark single. I watched the trailer.

Yeah. So it's really fun to kind of see how this woman who doesn't get to say much, woman who doesn't get to say much really has a lot going on inside and has kind of harbored and pushed down years and years and years of anger and frustration and sadness and so we kind of follow her on that uh journey that may or may not lead to a murder plot against her husband yeah so so there's kind of i mean this is me being really annoying and like every journalist you've probably spoken to like is there a little bit of Desperate Housewives in there? Is there a little bit of them? What's the one that Elizabeth Olsen's in? One Division.

One Division. And then there's also that one, well, the Truman Show. Is it kind of all these kind of, am I in the right ballpark here? Or is it completely out of this world, completely different? You're in the right ballpark. Although with this show, you quickly learn that there's no magic involved. It's just Kevin's world is the sitcom world, and that's where he exists. And Allison's world is the single cam.

So I'm not playing an actress on the show. So we just kind of have to suspend our disbelief a little bit and just accept that my world is single cam, his world is multi cam. Interesting. So you're not like Alexis and you're not like Alison. What are you like? Tell us about where you grew up. I grew up in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. I'm an only kid. Both of my parents started out as teachers, so not at all in the in the entertainment industry. My first part was Hyena No. 2 in a well-known and well-beloved play called Green Cheese Pie, written by my grade two teacher. So that's where I really got a taste, a taste for the stage. And I went

to an amazing high school that had an amazing drama program. And so I was in, I was like a theater nerd growing up and then went to theater school for university and it went from there. But before it went from there, it went a bit shit. Oh, it went real shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like house burning down. House burning down. Yeah.

I mean, there was a real bleak stretch of time where, yes, my house did burn down. I hadn't booked a part in, I would say, over two years. If I do the correct math, I would say over two years. I'd come so close. It seemed to always be down to me and one other girl. And then I would never be the girl who got the exciting phone call. I had very little money.

And I think that there was just so much excitement and then let down that I just hit a point where it was such an emotional roller coaster that I proclaimed loudly and snottily to the universe one day that I was going to change career paths to what I don't know, because acting really was the only thing I felt I was any good at. But then it was the next day that I got an email in my inbox asking me to audition for Alexis Rose on Schitt's Creek. And when you went to that audition, I guess maybe was it because you felt slightly resolute that you were quitting? So you were like, oh, fuck it. I'll just give it a go. I don't really, do you feel like maybe something changed in that, in the way that you presented

yourself in the audition? Or did you go in there being like, last chance saloon, let's bloody do this? I think it was a bit of both. I think there was a bit of like, fuck it, why not? Like, what could possibly go wrong? Because I was always thinking like, oh, everything is going to go wrong. But I also saw on the breakdown that Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara were already attached to do the show.

And they, since I was a little kid, were two of my comedy icons. And I knew the show was going to be wonderful because everything they do turns to gold. So I knew the show was going to be great. And it was a rare occasion where I read the sides that the script that they gave us for the audition and I felt like okay I can do this like I I can picture myself doing this this feels comfortable it feels in my wheelhouse and that never happens for me during an audition I always feel like I'm forcing myself into the role um but that wasn't the case with this one. So I practiced and practiced and practiced. And I was like, you know what? Maybe I'll meet Eugene Levy. Like maybe I'll go in and I'll do a

decent audition and I'll meet Eugene Levy. And what a, what an experience that would be. And I went in and I was all prepared and it was Dan Levy sitting there, not Eugene. Bit disappointed. So disappointed. Wouldn't you be? Come on. Well, not now we wouldn't. Even though he looks the spitting image of him.

Oh, two of the most handsome gentlemen you would compare to me. Yeah, and Eugene, I think as, like, Eugene's about to turn 75. Let's keep that in mind. No, he's so handsome. He is so's keep that in mind. He's so handsome. He is so handsome and gets more and more handsome as time passes. Great eyebrows. Great eyebrows. Beautiful skin, thick hair, dapper clothing.

Just a real prince of a man. So yeah, so I went in and I auditioned for Alexis in front of Dan. And then I got a call from Dan a couple of days later saying that he wanted to see me read for the role of Stevie as well. I know. I know it's not a popular, that's not going to go over well for many listeners. And it worked out the way that it should. Like no one could have done Stevie but Emily Hampshire. But I did end up not only auditioning for Stevie, but screen testing for both Stevie and Alexis.

Have I, am I going mad or am I just, and I'm not a stalker, I promise you, but have I seen some footage of your audition at the very beginning? Was it, yeah. It was in the behind the scenes the thing you watch when you finish Schitt's Creek oh right so it was the behind the scenes I thought I was going mad no no no they put in a little clip of I think most of

our auditions I think most of the auditions yeah and did you have to do a chemistry thing with Dan yeah I did actually it wasn't It wasn't officially called that, but he was doing all the reading and the auditions. And it was just bizarre with him. I had never met him before, but kind of right out of the gates, we had that sibling bantery.

It's fabulous. Needling at each other. We knew exactly which buttons to push. And it just felt like I'd known him, like we'd been an old, like crotchety married couple before or something like that. Like we just had this really bizarre, wonderful chemistry. So yeah, it just felt right.

And I felt, I walked out of that audition and my screen test being like, you know, I have no regrets. And I've never seen that walked out of that audition and my my screen test being like you know I have no regrets and I never say that coming out of an audition but it felt good and I felt confident and I felt like I did everything that I wanted to do um so are you part of the Rose family now forever I know how lucky am I or the Levy family the Levy the Levy family too. I will invite myself over to their house for dinner until the day I die, whether they like it or not. I feel like we've all, it was such, it's so, I feel corny talking about it because just everyone was truly lovely and these incredible friendships were formed. formed and that's what kind of kept me sane when we wrapped was knowing that I would only be saying goodbye to the characters and that the people playing these characters were going to stick around for a long time so yeah do you miss Alexis I do miss Alexis I really do the um the kind of unabashed confidence that comes along with her is something that was really fun to play and i tried to take

like one sixteenth of that with me um when we wrapped and i've been doing a semi-successful job of it but uh but no and of course the the clothes yeah oh and especially now compared to kevin the fuck himself where i'm a very dowdy very unfashionable woman so i do i do longingly and wistfully think about alexis from time to time um annie growing up in ottawa what was around the dinner table you're an only child did you get exactly what you wanted for din-dins or were you an easy child I think I was a pretty easy kid although I was a bit of a little shit for a while when it came like I didn't like tomatoes for a long time that kind of thing I've come around I've come around um there was a lot of um you know, I was read to all the time as a kid. There were

lots and lots of books in the house always. My dad is a big film buff. So we watch, you know, we watch like, I have such fun memories of watching Fawlty Towers over and over and over and Columbo over and over and over and, you know, all the classics I watched and I feel really lucky about that. And what did you eat? What did I? This is a really good question and this is also why it kind of panics me to be an only child a lot of the time is that I have a really shitty memory. And I don't really have, I don't I don't really have I don't have a person to I guess my mom could fill me in but I don't have a person to share those memories with which is a little bit panic inducing I ate I mean it was a very meat and potatoes family like my dad is from very Irish stock, so is very meat and potatoes.

We would do stir fries. We would do spaghetti. We would do mom's contraption, which my mom actually, it was actually mom's concoction, but I didn't pick up on that too quickly. So Mom's Contraption, which was just a can of, some kind of canned spaghetti that she added ground beef to and then grated cheese on top. Oh, so like a kind of a whizzy spag bol. You could call it that. Yeah. Did you like it?

Well, apparently yes, because I just started salivating when I was talking to you about it. It doesn't sound so gourmet or delicious, but, you know, my taste, my spit glands aren't lying. And so would you say your mom's a good cook? I would say my mom is a good cook. I would say my dad is a better cook. I would say my dad is a better cook. I hope my mom doesn't listen to this podcast.

But I think my dad, like my mom, my mom is very much like a rule follower. And she's very kind of type A and likes things just so. And so will follow a recipe kind of exactly as it as it guides you to do my dad is a little bit more like let's make a recipe up like let's make some shit up are they still living they're still living in ottawa yes and where do you live i'm in toronto oh so you live in toronto oh you're proper canadian there but canadians are very proud i mean yeah because i've got justin trudeau you'd be proud. But Canada is a great place and Toronto is an amazing city.

So why would you go? Yeah. So when I'm not doing a podcast with my dear mother, I'm a singer and I have some of my best gigs in Toronto at the Danforth. Yes. Oh, such. Yes. And actually you've got a t-shirt on the drop kit.

Murphy's my mate manages really or is there agent no he's the agent yeah and um and i i wonder whether you had it because you're a fan of them or just because your surname's murphy listen i yes the second the second one i fair enough i was in a thrift store i found this very well broken in shirt with my surname on it and it was four dollars so a girl can't pass up an opportunity like that no you can't they're supposed to be very very good live so maybe you should see them live I imagine especially like really rip-roaring drunk um around St. Patrick's Day or something like that I feel like that's exactly of... Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So are you a good cook, Annie Murphy? Oh, man.

You're asking some really hard-hitting questions here. I know. I am not a good cook, but I don't think it's because I'm a bad cook. I think it's just because I haven't challenged myself. I'm very lazy, especially when it comes to cooking. And there are so many delicious restaurants that I'm trying to support in Toronto. I'm trying to be very, you know, very Mother Teresa. I absolutely understand that. Yeah, that's a great answer. I'm doing my part for my community

by ordering whatever the hell I want at any time of day. So what are the what are the places that you absolutely love in Toronto that everyone should go to? Oh, okay. There's a place called Mother India. If you guys are into Indian food, they serve their curries in a roti, but it's not the kind of Caribbean roti. It's an Indian roti. So it's very thin. It's like a very, very thin, chewy naan bread. Um, and it is, if you order spicy, if you're a white person going in and you order spicy, they say, no, you absolutely cannot have that. Um, you will take medium or mild and they're right. They're right. They've, they've, they've made the right decision for you. Well, there's another great Indian place called Banjara.

I'm a big Indian food gal. What else? What else? What else? Oh, Libretto's Pizza. If you like a nice kind of artisanal, throw it in the wood oven for 90 seconds, comes out all bubbly and gooey, and that's a great one.

What are you guys into well I I'm everything but I I'm I'm interested because actually um because the curry you know we've had a lot of people on we had a a singer on um recently who basically says I mean I know this but LA is not known for its curry it's terrible it's really bad London is very good for curry you know Birmingham's great for curry have you been to London for a curry yet I have been to London for a curry and did it did it satisfy so much so much and I'm trying to remember the name of the place where were you uh it was a bit of a trek and it was in kind of like an old cottagey space. There was a fireplace.

Like it was very cozy and warm and lovely and like kind of wood paneling, which seems much more pubby than it does. Sounds fancy. Yeah. It sounds. Was it in central London? No, no. Yeah, it sounds... Was it in central London? No, no.

Okay, I'm going to look this up and report back because it is a lovely atmosphere to gobble down curry. Have you spent a lot of time in London? I haven't spent much time in London and I've been to London three times, I guess, probably for a week at a time. But it's a place that I would really, really like to spend a whole lot more time and then do trips. Like, I just, I can't imagine living in the UK, in Europe, and just being able to hop on a plane on the weekend and end up in Paris for a couple of

years. Just that opportunity to travel is so wonderful. Do you guys take advantage of that? Well, we did. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry to bring up the past. Yeah, no, it's heartbreaking. We did. And I've got a little house in Greece. I would have been there already by now. And we would have gone maybe, yeah, I would go away for a weekend to Paris or you go away for a weekend in Italy. We've been to most of the European countries, haven't we? Yeah, it's incredibly frustrating not to be able to travel. So where is the place that you would, once all this lockdown business is finished,

the first food destination that you will be going to outside of Toronto or Canada? There's a fondue restaurant in Paris that I dream about several times a week. Again, the name is very much escaping me. However, it's cos cozy and dark and narrow, and the walls are covered with graffiti and currency from all over the world. And there are long, long, long tables on each side of the restaurant, and you have to climb over the table to get to the bench on the other side. And because of this this wine glasses were constantly being spilled everywhere and so they now serve their wine in baby bottles um oh my gosh

so you go in with friends and and get to watch each other suckle um alcohol from a rubber nipple i don't now that i'm saying that out loud i don't know if they'll continue doing that uh post covid because it all does seem very uh non-hygienic sounds a bit fetishist to me it's very funny a cheesy sauce and a and a milky bottle oh jesus right yeah sorry oh gross right right no i'm quite intrigued by this. It's not chic. It's not very Paris chic, is it? It's not. I quite like that.

Quite the opposite of Paris chic. But that is a place that I would definitely like to go back to. Now, Annie, I want to know whether there were any kind of memorable meals around that Schitt's Creek time. Did you eat well? We ate so darn well on that show. Did you? Because one Eugene Levy has a real zest for the finer things in life, especially food. And that man enjoys a meal unlike anyone I've ever met. He just gets so much pleasure out of every little bite.

Always orders dessert, which I had never done before, but now, you know, if you're out with the levies, you're having like a full hour long dessert session of the meal. Um, we had, we had, and Eugene, of course, ever the gentleman always treats. And so we had some incredible meals in New York. I remember when we first started the show and just being so overwhelmed by the fact I got to take a business trip to New York City. Is that where you shot Schitt's Creek? No, but we would do press here every year. Okay, so where did you shoot Schitt's Creek?

We shot in Toronto. Oh, in Toronto. Does Cafe Tropical exist then? toronto oh in toronto does cafe tropical exists then it exists but only as a facade so we shot all of the interior in a studio and then for the exterior stuff we went to to this town not it's not quite schitt's creek level of hilarity um but it is called goodwood ontario um and so goodwood is basically an intersection and so on three of the four corners there's bob's garage cafe tropical and the apothecary but just again as exteriors and the inside of cafe tropical is actually a man's home um which and so you know if you walked into the cafe you would be walking into this man's house and his house was full of bizarre like arcade game it was very much a man

cave like very very very deeply a man cave and he would often be there kind of grumpily sitting in like a race car and playing his video games and then like gradually looking at you as if you were intruding i guess we were intruding but he also was so um so yeah so that's the that's the secret reveal behind cafe tropical um now annie we ask everybody what their last supper would be a desert island meal, where you're about to go off to a desert island. So you are allowed your favourite meal with a starter, a main a dessert and a drink of choice. What would you have? This is a this is a really rude question. Yeah. Do many people get upset about it? Or am I the first person to get upset

about it? Oh, you're saying this is a rude question. I thought you were going to give me a rude question, but you think our question is rude. I'm telling you, this is an incredibly rude question. It's so difficult. OK, I think. No one's got offended yet, but I like this. OK, I think I would start out with a French onion soup. Ooh. Where from? Who by? I would like to hold on that answer.

Okay. I don't want to answer incorrectly. Then I think I would have... See, these things don't complement each other. It's okay. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You can have a whole day of food.

Okay, okay. I think i would do indian food i think i would have like a couple of very delicious curries and then for dessert i i'm not a big dessert lady but i might have like a really perfectly baked brownie where the top is very crisp like it's like a good crunchy top and a very very moist gooey interior would you have it a la mode or just i think just by itself oh or or i might do like just strawberries and whipped cream. That's a very, very fitting choice because Wimbledon is coming up and that's what they have. Great. All the time, but they have it with pouring cream, but it's a great combination. I wanted to know whether there is a really like nostalgic scent of food that pulls you back to a certain place. of food that pulls you back to a certain place could be from your childhood could be from a romantic dinner could be from a heartbroken takeaway i don't know um i think the smell i

mean the smell of bacon mixed with the smell of coffee in the morning is always a bit of a time traveling smell. And I think it's not a specific memory, but it does bring us a very nostalgic feeling of kind of safety. Because it's like the grown ups are down there making breakfast and you're gonna be taken care of and you're about to have a really delicious meal. It would be a smell at my grandparents house, and you're going to be taken care of and you're about to have a really delicious meal. You know, it would be a smell at my grandparents' house. It would be a smell at my parents' house. It would be a smell at friends' houses.

So it's just kind of a nice, safe, comforting smell, I think. Have you been to Ireland? And do you like Guinness? Oh, yes. But I actually had never had a Guinness. And I kind of, I was doing like a snobby intentional thing. Like I want my first Guinness to be in Ireland. And it was.

And it was perfect because I'm usually I love a good IPA. But this was like a perfectly delicious. It was in a pub on a rainy day in Ireland. So it was like the best. It's always raining. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And it couldn't have tasted better.

You didn't give us your drink of choice for your last supper. Would it be a beer or would you go wine? I think it would be an IPA. Like a nice citrusy. I've never heard anyone say that, girl. Oh, mum, stop being so sexist. There's been a boy that said that. I don't know. No, we haven't. anyone say that, girl. Oh, mum, stop being so sexist. I don't think there's been a boy that said that. No, we haven't, not on the podcast.

You're the first on IPA. I don't think she, well, no, maybe she's the first on IPA, but again, don't tell us because I don't really. I don't know anything about beer. I wouldn't know an IPA from a PA. UFO IPA, I don't know. Well, an IPA is, it's very hoppy. It's oftentimes quite citrusy.

I think the alcohol content is quite high compared to other beers. Is it the same as a pale ale? No, absolutely not. No, no, no. No, no, no. And I'm not a pale ale. It's darker, I think. It's more treac no, no. And I'm not a pale ale. It's darker. I think it's more treacly.

I feel like you should do a beer brand. You've got the surname for it. But there already is a Murphy's, unfortunately. There is a Murphy's beer, darling. Well, fine. We'll think of something else. There's no Annie Murphy. That's true.

Guys, this is... I think we're going places with this. Honestly, I think that you should bloody do it. An IPA. Are there big breweries you should bloody do it in IPA. Are there big breweries in Canada, in Ottawa? There are. There's one in particular called Collective Arts that one of my very best friends works at. And they're very, what I really appreciate about them

is that they make all kinds of very delicious beer, but they also put this beautiful artwork on the cans and so they they are able to showcase artists from all across I think the world and not just Canada but they they showcase up-and-coming artists on their cans which I think is a very lovely how gorgeous and who got you into beers I think it it was very much like my dad thing. There is a photo of me at a very, at an alarmingly young age, perhaps like six months old or something, where my dad's holding me and like,

I'm pretty sure it's a staged photo, but don't quote me on that, is like giving me a nice little sip of beer. So I got latched on early So I got latched on early. I got latched on early. Table manners. Have you got good table manners? I think so.

I think I do. My mom was a big table manners lady. Although I will say actually just last night, I noticed my elbow on the table while I was eating. Where were you eating last night? I was eating at a restaurant that actually Eugene took us to for the very first time. Guys, this is really alarming that names of things just slip right out of my old brain. It's an old kind of like French restaurant in New York.

Was it quite fancy? To my credit, I was sitting outside and it wasn't, it's not a very dressy, dressy French restaurant. Good. Yes. I would be mortified telling you I put my elbow on the table at a very fancy French restaurant. Okay.

Is there anywhere else on the list whilst you're in New York doing promo that you've got to go to? Well, there's this place called Vanessa's Dumplings in Chinatown. Great. And you can fill up your entire body with dumplings for probably $5 or less. Wow. Pan-fried chive and pork dumplings. You just smother them in soy sauce and hot sauce and they are a true delight yeah so annie we we're gonna let you go in a sec but what is your karaoke

song oh okay well i have an aspirational karaoke song, which is Super Bass by Nicki Minaj. Very lyric heavy, very rap heavy. I tried it one time when I was incredibly drunk and it did not go well. so I haven't I haven't tried to dust that off since but the other day I was thinking oh it's guys my my my old brain is a real sieve today it's because it's because you're doing loads of promo and you're probably sick of the sound of your voice and you're probably like just like yes I know it's promo it's promo brain I've actually just gesturing like the word goes out of my head and then I make some kind of gesture and just say whatever I'm doing right now. And then the journalist usually fills in the word for me. And that's been working really well. Are you absolutely exhausted or are you all right?

I'm good. I'm good. It's so much fun. And, you know, it's like I'm sitting in a beautiful hotel in new york city overlooking the park and i don't know when this is going to happen again so i'm just trying to soak it all in as well go and have a cocktail at the carlisle i think i might that's my favorite place downstairs the lovely cosmo i will tell you guys just just so you can envision this, I am about to go and meet up with one Sarah Levy, who plays Twyla. Oh, Twyla. She's in town too.

So we maybe will go and have a Cosmo at the Carlisle. Go, yeah. The snacks are great. Annie Murphy. We've loved having you, Annie. Thank you for giving us some time when i know promo is mental you look fabulous we wish we could have fed you next time you're in london you come you let us know and we'll take you for a curry and good luck with effing kevin thank you thank you guys so much

kevin it was a pleasure. Lots of love to you. Annie Murphy right there. She was lovely. She's gorgeous. She's just such a sweet, lovely woman. I love the idea of her mum's contraption. Yeah, it's called a contraption rather than a concoction. Loved it. Big IPA drinker.

I think she's, yeah, it's all in the name. I think she needs to go and start her own IPA brewery. Don't you? Yeah, definitely. Thank you, Annie Murphy. And thank you for listening. I hope you're all okay. And we'll see you next week.

The music you've heard on Table Manners is by Peter Duffy and Pete Fraser. Table Manners is produced by Alice Williams.