Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S11 Ep 4: Slowthai

Episode Date: February 3, 2021

With Mum being a huge connoisseur of hip hop and rapping, this week we invited the brilliant Slowthai to join us over Zoom from his studio basement at his Mum’s in Northampton. We chat about recording his brand new album, ‘Tyron' during lockdown, Sunday roasts, his Mum’s secret ingredients for the perfect roast potatoes and his go to meal to impress his fiancé. Mum asks about award shows and alcohol and we find out that he's still owed 50 quid for a hot sauce challenge he won. His brand new album ‘Tyron’ is out on Feb 12th. Oh, and I have a little announcement of my own, my book ‘Omelette' is available for pre order now. A book about family, friends, chaos and my undying love of food and eating x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with Mum. Hi, I'm Lenny. We've got it fixed. This whole set-up is working nicely, isn't it Mum? I think it's a bit better when you're alongside me because I can nudge you when you talk too much. Well, you now have your own mixing editor person right there. I'm like basically... Mixing my voice? Yeah, I'm a sound engineer now. I shouldn't think you'd need much mixing with my dulcet tones, darling.

Okay, well, you don't know when you hit the red. Okay. Well, Jessie, I couldn't be more excited. Why, Mum? We've got a rapper on. Oh, yeah? You a big fan of him? Huge fan of rapping, darling. And this particular rapper?

This particular one. Slow Tie is my favourite. favorite yeah we have slow tie on the rapper hip-hop artist uh punk rocker political commentator yeah he's on and he's got a new record coming out called tyron he's had quite a big year who's on the record asap rocky scepter a load of others. He's done one with James Blake and Mount Kimby that's wicked. And he's born in the 90s, Mum. Jesus.

We've got a baby on our hands. Darling, when were you born? Ten years before him. Oh, shit, darling. So he's 16? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly, Mum.

He goes by the name of Ty, I believe. I've've never met him i've heard only good things about this guy many of my friends have worked with him and say he's an absolute gent despite what people may have seen floating about on the old social media uh about a year ago and he's extremely exciting to watch i've seen him do a Glastonbury show. That mosh pit with Quez Darko was insane. It looked like such a hazard. I don't know what you're talking about. I felt ten years older than him, I tell you.

What is Quez Darko? It's his guy that he works with and he had this huge mosh pit and it was very... God, I thought it was a drug no but anyway yeah it was amazing performance it was kind of yeah he's an amazing performer and yeah he has his second record coming out tyron and i want to ask him because i believe he's working on his third record already so do you want to be on his record i mean i'd love to what have you been up to mom

darling well i saw you yesterday because you came for lunch yeah but and i looked after your children overnight and they gave me an early start 5 30 darling so weird because they don't know oh they'll sleep till 7 30 grandma can i watch something on your ipad well mum mum, if you're going to let her have the iPad at any time, it's like a crack addict. She wants it and that's why she's waking up at 5.30 because she knows you'll give it to her at that time. So I have a little announcement of my own to make. I have written a book. It's what one would call a food memoir. And it's called Omelette in celebration of my mother

and her excellent omelettes bloody hell but it's not just about my mum it's about growing up falling in love friendships just it's about food and eating and enjoying it the love of my life and you can go and pre-order it now if you fancy a signed copy or an unsigned copy. The link for that is in my bio in Instagram and maybe even the Table Manners bio. It's called Omelette, Food, Love, Chaos and Other Conversations. And it's just about my relationship, my lifelong love with food and eating. So, yeah, there you go. You can pre-order it if you fancy it. But before you go and pre-order the book, Slow Tie is coming up on Table Manners.

Slow Tie, welcome to Table Manners. Hello, thank you for having me. So how are you? Where are you? You look like you're in your studio. You've got lots of equipment. Yeah, I'm just at home Northampton in the basement. Which bit of Northampton? I know Kettering. Oh, that's Northampton. Oh, you're actually in Northampton. Yeah. So that's like 20 minutes away. It's kind of nice, Northampton. Yeah, it's like, I think it's got a nice history as well. Like Northamptonshire. Which football team do you support? I'm a Liverpool fan. I support Northampton, but I've always supported Liverpool.

Well, we're so sorry about it. Well, sorry about it. Sorry, not sorry. You're United fans? Yeah. Bloody hell. Well, mum is from Manchester. I'm from Manchester.

It's a land. I'm a land. What part of Manchester? Salford. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why? Who do you know? What do you know about Manchester?

I just heard a lot about it. I've got a few friends that are more on my side and stuff. Oh, yeah. The best clubbing scene in the whole of the UK, I think. Mum says this, but the last time she went clubbing was like in 1970 Shut up, of course I was young then and gorgeous But Ty, can we call you Ty by the way? I hear everyone calls you Ty

Yeah, let's call me Ty Okay, great But like so growing up in Northampton You haven't flown far from the nest Even though you're a huge big shot. Do you still live with your mum? Yeah, I still live with mum. Oh, so sweet.

Yeah, I feel like if I left her, she'd get lonely. I can't just leave. So tell us about when you were growing up. Who was in the house? Who was around that dinner table? And what were you eating? Who was in the house? Who was around that dinner table?

And what were you eating? So in my house, it was me and my mum. A bit later on, my stepdad, my sister, and then my little brother. But he passed away. And we would eat, I don't know, normal food, like Sunday roast every Sunday. And then shepherd's pie and all that. But then mum would cook chicken like, chicken and rice, maybe some curry goat, like, just mix it up a bit. There was never, like, one set thing in my house.

It wasn't, like, oh... I said from Sundays, you know, you're getting a roast. Was she good at roasts? Yeah, my mum's a bit... Like, I think it's, like, a bias we all have, though. Like, it's what you know, innit? So when you're growing up... Like, my mom's potatoes

though unrivaled it don't matter like where i go so what does she do to make them it's like a family secret oh no come on dish the dirt it's two things it's only two things but i don't think she'll forgive me if i said wow she's precious about her potatoes. And my nan my nan's like, I think it was my great nan who come up with it and then it's kind of come down and down and then. Oh go on, give us a clue. Can you give us one of the

I'll tell you one thing, one thing, sugar Sugar? Yeah, yeah, yeah Because it might caramelise It does It does does but then that's interesting I think it's the mix of the two

the other one is that something everybody's got in their cupboard but you just don't think to use what I can't say

oh you've really got him he's such a tease I like it that way though listen can you listen

this is a really respected food podcast your mother could be on Saturday Kitchen in a minute doing her roast potato. So if you want to ask her. She would reveal it. She would probably turn her back to the camera and do a quick little. I'll give her my peas and rice recipe.

Mum, I don't think she needs it, thanks. So were you a good eater when you were younger? Did you eat everything? Yeah, when I was young, I never liked fish. I didn't. I just didn't. Except from tuna. I was really weird.

I didn't like fresh fish. I didn't like any cod from fish and chips. But I like fish cake and I like tinned tuna. For what reason? I just love tuna sandwiches. Do you like fish now? Yeah, I love fish now. I'll happily go eat sushi.

But at one point, I remember eating sushi when I was like a teenager and I just felt like I was going to vomit because the texture. Mushrooms, unless they're magic, I don't like mushrooms. But I don't know. But when I went to done like it's just different mushrooms i think it's the texture the the usual ones that you have like butter mushrooms with your breakfast or whatever i just hate i feel like it's just not the right consistency yes the texture just doesn't work for you yeah i like I like it when it's a bite. Has your mum cooked for you tonight?

Have you eaten yet? No, no. My friend, he cooked a vegetarian lasagna. So he cooked that. Your friend's brought round a lasagna for you? Well, like, he's... That's so sweet. He works for me, so he kind of...

He made it the night before, and then he was like... When he come up, was doing all our little office things, and he was like, oh, yeah, what I made last night was banging. And then I was like when he come up was was doing all our little office things and he was like oh yeah what i made last night was banging and then when i was like nah man you gotta go get some and then he brought it and it was just nice well it's funny because i've been talking about you to my friend and producer of my record james ford who i believe yeah i love james and he was saying that you were kind of going back and forth from his place in Hackney to Northampton.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you had this mate with you. Now, is this the vegetable? Yeah, he's the one that's the lasagna. He said he was very lovely. He is. He's really nice. How do you know him? I've known him from, well, through family, basically.

Because everyone in my team is my family anyway. I've always been, like, rather than work a job they don't enjoy, I'd rather we all work together and come up, and then I know I can trust them. But he's basically my cousin without being my cousin. You know you have them people, and we used to play football when we was, like, for Falcons and Gregoryory celtic and stuff and from that he was never really with me but he would be with my other cousin all the time who's my manager and i'd be

like yo stop selling cars and come work with us because he wanted to just be with us all the time anyway it would take time off work so now he's now he's always with me doing my editing I'm kind of like I'm like fuck sake they must be so proud of you your family and it's how I mean it's amazing that you've got them all involved I mean does your mum play a role in the in the business I'm not at this point in time she wants to recommend it yeah no no it's tough working with your mother i know but she no but you know i think i want her to do she wants to go into like she likes interior design and then she wants to do like eyebrows you know tattoo eyebrows oh yeah she's good she's good at doing she's really good she's good with arty stuff. Is your mum about 22?

No, no, but she's quite young. How old is she? She's 40. I don't ask her because women in my family have always said you don't ever ask a woman her age. But is she in her 40s? Yeah, she's young 40. I think she might be 42 coming up this year.

Jessica. What? She's nearer my age. Yes, I know. Don't. I could be Slow Ties' mother. I know. All right, steady on, Ty.

Now, what does your sister do? Does she work with you? Oh, no. Me and my sister have always had this competitive thing where she wants to work in film, and she's like a production assistant on this show. I don't know if I can say it or not, but she's killing the game right now.

She went off on her own thing. She's moved to London, and she's just floating now she's like got a company car she's looking for a new apartment she's got a boyfriend her life's like so pretty sorted she's like yeah but I always used to argue with her we because she'd be like you think you're this and you think you're that and I'll be like no but I'm just out here she's like well I'll show you I'll show you and she went um she went she got a scholarship and went to New York and studied for a year and then we couldn't afford to do it anymore so then she come back went to university in London and then she done her master's and then she just recently got this job so

she's quite happy god your mum must be so proud yeah she's but she's babies are flying she's like the biggest my mum's like my biggest fan your mum will always be but she knows more about like things that I'm doing than I do she's like oh so what's this and when you said that on Twitter I'm like you haven't even got a Twitter and she's like what do you's this and when you said that on Twitter I'm like you haven't even got a Twitter and she's like what do you mean what do you mean why do you feel like that and I'm like I wish I never said nothing out there mate when my on my first record I remember somebody I don't my mum must have been searching my name and this was before we did the podcast um somebody had said something anti-semitic about me i don't know it's like whatever it's i

mean it wasn't it wasn't nice at all but i didn't i hadn't seen it because i don't search my name but my mum had seen it it was on youtube darling it was on youtube with swastikas okay yeah not nice yeah not nice not nice not nice at all no but my mum went and like took them all on on on twitter and i thought there was one guy on who said he downloaded it illegally. Oh, that was the other one too, yeah. In French, and I speak a bit of French, and I told him he was a thief in French. And he said, everyone's doing it, tout le monde l'a fait.

And I said, well, tout le monde sont méchants. And then, and I said, you need to pay. And in the end, he wrote back and he said, I've paid, all right? J'ai payé, ça va? Get him down, get him down. Yeah, sorry, no messing. Anyway, so yeah, I can understand that. Well, actually, it's probably the only way she knows where you are

if you're on social media. He's in the basement right now. Yeah, he is now. He's not going anywhere. I do speak to her quite even though when i'm traveling i do like to check up with like call her and say he's a good boy he loves his mom i do i like my mom's you're yeah you're like marcus rashford if you don't mind the comparison because you have all your family working around you and you love your mom yeah that makes for a good boy yeah well you know

you have to sometimes i gotta do more for my mum though that's the thing yeah jesse what are you talking i've made you a gay icon what are you talking about i've done enough for you you're fine mum you're flying you're fine you're speaking to slow tie on a bloody monday night life's good how did you get into music were you kind of musical from way way back um not really i think when i was young when my brother died i started they give me like anger management which i'd basically in lower school i would play piano instead of going to some of my lessons and then um I never stuck with it I kind of give it up and then 8 Mile come out and me and my cousin was writing lyrics then and then as I got older Grime become a thing and I was always with like the older kids on my estate

and they kind of just was always doing it just to pass time and to have a joke so I was always trying to get involved and they were just always laughing like shut up you know I mean like and then as I got older I think I was working some jobs I was doing stuff I shouldn't have been doing started working to try and make my make my mom happy because she didn't obviously want her son going to jail and then I was like fuck this and I basically just started music I was like this is the only thing I ever felt relatively good at so I might as well try this rather than I think I lost the job because I tried giving someone discount one of my friends discount on a suit and they was like oh basically I tried typing in the discount code myself but you need to get someone else to type in the code so I went and asked someone else

so there was that reported me and then like the loss prevention officer come and then I was like oh he's my brother the lady was like we're doing an investigation. And I was like, you know what? Fuck this. I was like, I quit. And they was like, you can't quit. We've got to do an investigation. I was like, are you serious? Like, I'm quitting.

Like, I'm going now. So I just went and got my shit and left. And then on the way, I wrote Tea and Biscuits, which was probably the song that made me tipple over or whatever. Speaking of Tea and Biscuits, which rapper brings the best snacks to the studio? None of them. They're all kind of...

In America, they're not really about it. They all just want to bring weed. But that makes you hungry, so they should bring the snacks too. Yeah, that's why. I like Cheetos and all that shit. So I'll send someone and just get everything. Chocolate pretzels, Cheetos, biscuits, selection of tea, and then some proper food. You need to order something or someone cook something

because it's long. If you're sat there and you ain't got nothing to snack on, it's horrible. Oh, my God, I'm like the first one that always pipes up in the studio. I'm like, anyone ready for delivery? Like, should we just think about lunch? Should we think about lunch? What's your selection?

What would you choose? If you could have anything? Well, initially, when one was on a tight budget, I used to go to Lidl and I'd get Liebenitz biscuits. That would be my thing that I'd do with David Kumu for the first record. That's what we like lived off, you the thick chocolate the thick chocolate yeah they're like the fancy they're like quite fancy and they like they're square they're square chocolate like a

rich tea underneath yeah yeah with a big bit of chocolate i've got a bad memory of that yeah when i used to like when i got my mom would kick me out and she would send me to my dad's. Like, my dad wouldn't, never really had that great a relationship growing up with my dad, but the worst place I could go was my dad's. So I'd go there, but I always had this thing, I would never go in their cupboards. Like, I just felt, like, out of place. Like, I didn't feel like I could go and get a biscuit or something.

So then when they was all asleep, I'd sneak down and get the biscuits and my dad's partner her favorite biscuits were them biscuits oh god was she a nice woman yeah she was all right but I had to eat all the biscuits like I'll be pigging out in the middle of the night and then the next morning she'll come down and she'll be like where the fuck's my biscuits where the fuck are and I'll just be walking around like well so I'm sure I can't want them my biscuits now love let's see you later this image of you like creeping downstairs in the middle of the night to steal the biscuits um I wanted to know you know you've traveled a lot of places now you've you know you've really you know you've already talked about italy and mushrooms and and the states and where's your favorite place that has been like kind of your favorite place to eat that

you is a new has been a new experience oh we're in south africa we went to um the best food yeah the fish this is actually wow king clip yeah when i said about the fish i was it made me instantly think about this place and it's like um cape town it's like the best seafood restaurant in cape town and you go in and i can't remember the name of it but it's right next to the sea so it's all fresh they all catch it that morning and in there you're like you just go around selecting it's like they got fishmongers in there you pick it and then on the other side it's like a sushi restaurant so you can go and pick all the sushi and it's on one of them belts that goes around and then we just done this mad seafood platter and just got all these crazy different fishes that i don't even remember the names of them but i was like this is banging

because it's the thing like when it's too oily it's the texture so when it's like got a bite like a real meaty fish i like that kind of but the sushi in South Africa is really amazing yeah yeah isn't it it's kind of do you remember that place in Camp Spade yeah and do you remember there was like

it was like South Africa's next top model like all of them were in there yeah so like the most beautiful women in the world

were like eating sushi next to us of course they were it was fantastic so we ask everybody on this podcast a starter main pudding drink of choice,

your last meal on earth, what's it going to be? Last meal. Can I go backwards? Can I go dessert? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll probably go sticky toffee pudding. Isn't that funny? Everyone says that.

It's just the ultimate. Either that or like a Victoria sponge. I just love Victoria sponge. What do you have on your sticky toffee pudding? Ice cream or cream? Custard. Or just straight? Oh, my goodness.

Ambrosia. Love it. Oh, wow. What about it mixing with the sticky toffee? I don't mind that. It's okay. That's nice. Because the sticky toffee is, like, very, if you eat it straight it's a very sickly like to

get through the whole thing is quite a chat i feel like it's a challenge in itself like especially after you've eaten so the custard kind of what is it that like i remember being young and they used like loads of people's parents used to do like bananas and custard and I just used to like the custard so I'd eat around. I'd probably even like have all the custard off the banana and put it back and just leave it like I was mad for custard. Right. Main course? Main course. It's the last meal on earth, right? So Sunday roast every day. That's my, if it's the last meal meal it's got to be one that chicken beef or lamb or everything yeah well if it's a proper you go all out you know I mean you'll have the

yeah so have a bit of both yeah a bit of everything oh really yeah yeah and then for the starter start is a funny one. No, you know what? I wouldn't go for a starter. Okay. Because I'd leave the starter because I'd go straight in for the main course. I'd rather just get to the business. I don't want to be waiting. So what's your drink of choice?

Drink of choice. Are you drinking? Yeah, I'd probably have a lager. Okay. Lager. Any particular kind? Maybe Vedette. Oh, I'd probably have a lager. Okay. Lager. Any particular kind? Maybe Vedette. Oh, I don't know.

Like a bell. It's one of them like pale ales. No, no, I don't like all that. To me, that stuff tastes like the lion. You know when they clean out the barrel, barrel wash? Oh. IPAs, that reminds me of like when they put the barrel cleaner in. Oh, crikey.

And it comes out all purple to clean the lines and stuff. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, no, I just like a straight-up lager. Like a vedette. Would you like to do your own lager one day? Vedette. You better write that down for some. Yeah.

I can imagine you having a lager. I might have a lager, a little slow tie. I don't know. I feel like it could work. Rick Astley has his own brewery. Yeah. You know, never gonna give you up.

He's got his own brewery. Rick Roll. Rick Roll. Rick Roll. No, I think I'd probably make a whiskey if I was gonna make something. I think a whiskey.

What sort of whiskey? God, no. One of these Japanese whiskeys. Nah. I like an Irish whiskey. God, no. One of these Japanese whiskeys? Nah. Would you like a Chasen? I like an Irish whiskey. Yeah, Jameson's. Yeah, Jameson's is my, yeah.

But that drink gets me in trouble every time. That's like. Why? It's just like the devil's drink for me. As soon as I have, be it in my blood, it must run. But I just go, I just go go crazy anytime you get into trouble a lot ty if i drink if i drink i did hear something about you drinking and getting into a bit of trouble but you know what's life about a bit of trouble you know like sometimes you gotta have a

bit of trouble you gotta spice things up a bit. Otherwise, it's that. So, darling, are you going to any awards ceremonies this year and having a thing? As many as they'll let me in. Good for you. They'll have me back. They'll want it. They'll think, yeah, we prod him a bit and get him. He'll prod him a bit.

He gives us another headline. We all make our mistakes and we all like as long as you're learning from it that's all that counts really you know also you got some material and ammo for this new record like a record a song like cancelled you know i guess it was a it kind of it could have been helpful for the writing process for this new record? I think as well, it's like, I don't know, I don't ever look back and think, even if something went in the worst possible way, you have to take a positive from it.

You learn from it. Yeah, and I just know not to get as drunk as I did in a place where they're putting cameras on you. What was it that night? Was it whiskey and beer that night? It was every drink. I think I was drinking everything. I was even drinking other people's. I took someone else's champagne.

I didn't give a fuck. I was like, this is my award. I might as well have called it the Slow Tie Awards. I think I was a bit drunk when Jessie got her Mercury Prize I didn't win when she went she was nominated and she was at the ceremony doing her song and I was sitting at the table

and I did drink a lot and did say to the guy next to me I don't think much of these lot he was the producer of the winning album I must have been very drunk you and my mum are never allowed to be at an award show together. I'm not allowed to go. Keep them apart, I tell you.

We'll have a good night. Yeah, we would. So what's the plan with, I mean, bringing a record out during a lockdown yeah i know what it's like it's a weird one how are you finding it it's it's all right i think it's just the whole i don't know i thrive off of meeting people face to face i feel like i'm very energy I like I've connect with people if I can feel their vibe but it's been all right it's just like say you're doing press now it's on zoom and everything's condensed into a couple days and it's like endless endless with the same question over and over again for like eight hours but it's good I don't like my thing is i just want the music out i want people

to just have something i would rather than thinking oh we wait to the end of the year and we've got all this time to build up like i'm always gonna make music and i'm always gonna make another thing so well i think you're already on to another thing right because like james was like he's already thinking about his next record. I was on it before finishing this one, to be honest. Ty, I would have thought, having listened to some of your music, you're really a political commentator in a way. You're talking about, have you always been interested in politics?

No, being from a place where we ain't got that much privilege and it seems like politics seem to affect us a lot and growing up with builders and tradesmen and generally people who was either on the dole or doing something they shouldn't, it was always like a frustration. So it's more like me just venting my opinions and my frustrations at things for the people who need it. Because I don't read into every legislation.

I'm not like watching the House of Commons. And when you do, it's like a bunch of kids at nursery, you know what I mean? They're all like shouting, trying to get a word in edgeways. So it's just more just what's frustrating me at the time how I feel in that point how are you feeling at the moment are you frustrated by the way the pandemic's been handled my thing is just they could have just done what we're doing now from the start and a year ago stop the traveling yeah yeah and then it wouldn't wouldn't like our economy wouldn't be in such a bad place where now it's that and even that like he's saying he's putting more money into our

defense and it's like what's what's the need like you know for all these things it just seems quite backward the way he's doing it and then it's like oh well boris johnson had covid so it's like and he's healthy and he's fine like yeah he's probably is because he's got the best health care and like the best support out of anyone in the country and but you can think all the what ifs what if we done this what if we didn't it's just about this time we have to focus and like try and stick together and just have our wits about us for not only our country but the world in a way you know what have you got on your mask is it just a plain one or do you have a slogan uh no i got like um i got i ain't got one here actually i got one with my face on it

we've done it for that much it's like kind of nose, but it looks a lot more goofy and fucked up. I wanted to know, do you think you've got good table manners? Yeah, I don't put my elbows on the table. I don't speak with my mouth full. I don't chew with my mouth open. Unless I'm really relaxed at home on my own and I'm just slobbing about,

then I'm just... But if I'm at if I'm at a table I generally will try and keep eye contact and be as polite as possible because other people are eating it's about you and just go thinking about yourself you know. Ty you live with your mum do you bring girls back? I've got a fiancée Woo! Fiancée! Yeah, yeah Can she cook? She can cook, she's Russian She's Russian

But she tends to take the lead in the kitchen definitely I think I'm a very lazy cook so my timing is on but still slightly delayed on some things and I really only cook when I really want to but I love cooking it's just most of the time I'm stoned and would rather make music like does your mum get on with your girlfriend in the kitchen they actually have been getting I think there's little times, I've noticed little things,

like when they'll both be cooking. And especially, like, I don't know, it's like one of them things, they cooked together the other day. How did that go? Yeah, it was good. The food was amazing. Did your fiancée have to knock the vodka back to keep going? No, she's not been drinking at the minute, but it's definitely a thing with the Russians.

They drink. They really do. Do they? How did you meet? On the internet. The modern day romance. The modern day love story. You were on a nap?

No, not on a nap. Not on a nap. She was a fan, probably. No, she does music herself. Oh, who's this? This is the one who cooked the lasagna. Hi Veggie Lasagna. How are you?

Hiya. Oh my God, I love this guy. He's bringing you a cup of tea. Is it a cup of tea? A cup of coffee. Really, I should be drinking tea. It's a bit late for a coffee. Really, I should be drinking tea. It's a bit late for a coffee. So, okay, so you met her online. And when did you start going out? Probably

about a year and a half, a bit longer. So when did you propose? And how did you propose? I proposed that beginning of last year. Yeah. It's a bit long. Oh, man, I'm gonna get in the neck now. Yeah, but I proposed um so you knew it was true love pretty quick yeah because we clicked it wasn't like a thing of like when you have a connection with someone and you just make each other laugh especially in this time like this is the real test when you're like on lockdown with someone and it's kind of like you you either want to kill each other or you're just having a good time. And it's like we've had a laugh

and I think we're quite respectful of each other's space and, you know, it's tight. Like, you're doing your thing, I'm doing mine. But she makes music. She was in a band in Russia. They were quite big. Yeah, it's good. But the way I proposed was in Thailand we went Thailand and then it was like

one of them we're lying on the bed and the stars are shining it was kind of impulsive more than planned out and like we were having did you have a ring I didn't have a ring but I didn't think like for when it's kind of we've both got everything it's not that important has she got a ring now yeah she has now that's quite right she definitely has i wouldn't leave her hanging i'll give her a wooden ring so when are you getting married i don't just when all this is over and we're in a good position, you know. I want to know, like, what is a dish that Slow Thai, Thai will cook for his fiancée to, you know, that would be like, she'd be like, babe, can you just do my fave?

You know what she likes? And it's something that my family, peppered steak, like, a Caribbean dish. And it's like just, I'll either do it with some rice or some potatoes and stuff, and it's like quite heavy, but it's like I'll have some like boiled dumplings, but they boil in with it at the last, you just throw them in at the end, and it's like, it's just banging, it's really nice. But that's like something I pride myself on to be honest the peppered steak that's my one yeah if i'm like what takeaways have you been having over lockdown or do you not have takeaways because your mum's cooking it's just whatever's easiest at the point in time because if we're all having a busy day like i can't imagine any of us want to cook you know so it

depends if kate's not doing something she'll cook if mum's not doing something she'll cook Like, I can't imagine any of us want to cook, you know. So it depends. If Kate's not doing something, she'll cook. If mum's not doing something, she'll cook. I'm, like, the last one to cook, to be honest. But I will get in when I want to have a cook. I'll be in there like, no, leave the kitchen. This is my time. And I'm, like, really set on it.

But I don't know. Like, we have just like standard stuff like you have a curry or you have a Chinese or is there a good curry that you can recommend in Northampton yeah there's a star star of India okay which is like that's the one I've always from when I was little we always used to get that that was like something you look forward to you know like every once like in a while you'll have like yeah let's get a curry a ruby murray and chill out do you like hot sauce yeah i do but the other day i went to my label and i was signing a bunch of records and my cousin you know on them that show hot ones no what's that where they do um they have all the hot sauce oh yeah yeah so sam sam smith he must have done it and brought they sent him all the sauces they had the hottest one and when we was finished signing he was like oh i bet you 50 quid you can

handle this and i was like 50 quid oh god i love it either either way you know i mean and i just boom and it was hell i was literally going through hell and it's like the drive when it's an hour drive when it's like an hour and a half drive and you're literally like you're that like i was i thought it passed i was like holding it down. As soon as I'd done it, my eyes are running, streaming, really just going. And I'm trying to hold it because if you say fucking hell, you're like, ooh, you lose. You wouldn't have got your 50 quid.

Yeah, no, I still didn't get it. Oh, come on. And he didn't even get you a glass of milk? He had the milk, but I was trying to be like, nah, I don't need the milk. Trying to be a hard man and it was like once the spice in your mouth was gone it wasn't even that

it was in it felt like it was melting my insides and I was like in the car I'm sitting there like I'm just playing music as loud as I can trying to think of something and then it's like it's raining it's kind of got bloody.

And when you're going through the country roads, cause the M1 was closed, was going. Oh God. The lasagna, lasagna man here. He's that, he's laughing.

He does this thing. And it's like a pet hater man. When someone turns the music down to talk. Yeah. I'm very, and he's like, bam, turned it down.

Cause we went through this big puddle and he's like bam turned it down because we went through this big puddle and he's like well yeah i thought if we went this way the roads might be flooded and i looked at him like are you fucking for like are you serious right now and he's like yeah yeah he's just talking like 10 decibels i'm like what the fuck i'm right next to you, bro. I'm not here. And he's like, yeah. And I'm dying from heart sauce. And he's like, are you all right? And I'm like, no. My belly's, I'm burning. When I got in, I got into bed.

I said to Kate, my fiance, I was like, babe, what have I done? I was like, why would I do this? Why would I do this? And she's like trying to help me. And I'm like, no, I need to just lie. So I was like curled up in some little ball i'm not trying to i'm like no please and when i woke up the next day it was still the same just the ring of fire before i was gonna die actually my mate i need to get them to send you some my mate drew has started

this hot sauce called cold sauce with a k and it is so good and i'm gonna get them to send you some it's really good and it's like it's manageable i mean apart from gold which was like maybe too much scotch bonnet for me i kind of i was like that it's phenomenal i'll get them to send it to you um we've got one more question for you ty yeah yeah what's your karaoke song oh um he's too cool for karaoke no no you know, you know what, I was actually, when I was in LA, I was dying to do it, like, because they have all them little karaoke bars, you know what I mean, and everyone was like, yeah, we'll do it, and then they got too drunk, and it was like, ah, we'll do it tomorrow, tomorrow, but I'd either go, I think his name's that, that Pina Colada song, you know, that Rupert.

Do you like Pina Colada? And getting caught in the rain. That's Barry Manilow, darling. Lovely. Is it, is it? I thought it was like Rupert Holmes. Oh, Rupert Holmes it is. Yes, you're right.

Either that or a Frank Sinatra, My Way, because everyone knows it. A crooner. But you can't do that now because didn't bloody Trump fly out on my way I think he used it as his like I think that they used it the news agency did it

no YMCA you can't ever do or that or Gloria that was the one Gloria yeah he plays that all the He didn't use YMCA Or Gloria That was the one Gloria Da da da Da da da da da da Yeah he played that

He does that Those are his rallies Very odd choice And Don't Stop Believing No Passenger He stole that from Glee Don't Stop Believing Da da da da da

So he used to have at his rallies YMCA And I don't understand Why he had a gay anthem But I think it's So he used to have at his rallies, YMCA. And I don't understand why he had a gay anthem. But I think it's because it's young men and he thinks he's young, you see. And he dances around to it. I think he's like trying to lull people in as well. Yeah. Even though it's like a hidden smoke mirror where he's like, yeah, I really hate everybody.

But come on. Yeah, you're right well it's been an absolute pleasure chatting to you ty slow time i'd love you to come for dinner and that's what i would love that's what i was actually gonna ask i've got a question for you guys okay come on then what would you cook if i came for dinner without any of my without any impression of what i've told you i like what would you make what would have been your first thought well i feel like you have to try my mom's chicken and matzo ball soup yeah if you're going to come to our house that is like quintessential lenny and the matzo balls are like dumplings and they are they're just like clouds in your mouth

so i feel like we'd start with that. So we'd start with like this really, it's like pure, it's like a chicken broth and it's beautiful. So what would we do next? Probably would have done something simpler. I probably would have done some sort of steak. Do you like your steak rare or do you like it well done? Medium rare. Yeah, so you could have done, I think we might have done tagliata.

Tagliata's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like you do it medium rare. Yeah. So you could have done... I think we might have done Taliata. Taliata is pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like you do it medium rare. You do it in a frying pan with just lemon juice and rosemary and some olive oil. And then you just slice it up and just pour the juice on the top. And so it's like the juices of the lemon and the meat and the rosemary. And it's like really, really good. And then what would you do?

Might have done a sticky toffee pudding, you know. You've never tried one? You're a sticky toffee pudding guy. Look, it's all up for grabs, Ty. We can work on this menu. Whatever you want me to make, I'll make for you, darling. Well, let's do a part two. We'll do a part two.

Yeah. It's been such a joy to chat to you, to get to know you. Thank you, too. It's been a pleasure. Good luck with the new record. Yeah, love. Maybe see you at James's one day

yeah man definitely yeah if you ever need any BVs let me know yeah yeah we'll do some I thought you were a feature

a top liner darling oh mum you know you are a top liner come on we'll get the top line we'll get the top line but no thank you so much Ty

thank you both of you thank you so much, Ty. Thank you. Both of you, thank you. Well, Mum, what do you think about that? Slow, Ty. He was lovely. Absolutely a delight. Poor thing, though, with the hot sauce.

Oh, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. He'll get his 50. We've just reminded him to get his 50 quid. He'll be all right. Yeah, who was he going to get the 50 quid from? Veggie lasagna. Oh, it's veggie lasagna.

And then he tried to keep talking to him when he was concentrating on not exploding. I know what he means about people that turn music down when the music's on when they're speaking it's like when the bloody google maps woman talks and it turns down your music and you're just like shut up i didn't need to know that i was going left i could see it on the screen thank you shut up jesse should we get face masks with our faces on them no actually i quite you could have my face on you I'm okay no I'll have your face on me and they'll all think I'm young I essentially have your face on me right now and every day because we are never

apart so it's very fine um I'll I'll leave that maybe I'll get you a slow tie one where you have this schnoz on your lips oh mummy they did ask I'm getting a hoodie from slow tie would you like a hoodie yeah a bloody word okay sorry right i'm texting beth his pr and saying mum wants the hoodie um thank you so much slow tie tyron the record's out on the 12th of february give it a listen um i hope you enjoyed that that was really lovely to speak to him i would have really loved to have done that in the flesh. That would have been a really nice one, I think. But thank you for listening. I'm going to go home now.

Actually, have you got that spare sticky toffee pudding from yesterday? No, I gave two next to me. You told me to. No, but you got me thinking. You said I don't want them. That's what you said to me. Anyway, we'll be back next week. Of course we will.

Because there's nothing else to do there's nothing else we're going Thank you. Table Manners is produced by Alice Williams.