Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S15 Ep 11: Dannii Minogue

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

What’s better than one Minogue? TWO!! This week, we welcome the totally wonderful Ms Dannii Minogue on Table Manners. She came over laden with Italian deli gifts and we chatted over some griddled Salmon and panna cotta. Dannii talks to us about life on the Melbourne farm with sister Kylie, her time spent cleaning windows in London, how she is celebrating 20 years of her album ‘Neon Nights’ & she gives me ALL the tips on how to be a mentor on telly! Dannii’s new TV show ‘I Kissed A Boy’ launches soon on BBC Three and BBC iPlayer.Dannii is determined to get us over to Oz to do a series from down under, so watch this space!ENJOY! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm sat here in Clapham on a Saturday morning, well late morning, and we have a sibling of a past guest on. Well I was thinking about that because it's been sibling day. Why? I think it was sibling day this week. Oh God, I don't really like all those shitty things. Yeah, well it doesn't matter but I was thinking... It was chickpeippy Day on Thursday.

Chippy Day. I think we should also, seeing as like, there's some other anniversaries, big muzzles to Yotam Otolenghi for 20 years of Otolenghi. The amount of recipes

that we have all done, listeners. It's changed everyone's life. It's changed our lives. The way we eat. I mean... Never heard of Zatar. No, so thank you.

Sumac. Otolenghi, for all that you do for our larders and our cupboard. He's changed everyone's life. And he's made vegetables sexy. Oh, yeah. Anyway, speaking of somebody who likes sexy vegetables, we have a former vegan, pescatarian, on the podcast today. She is a bit of a trailblazer.

She has a new tv show coming out on bbc3 the first ever gay dating show it's going to be called i kissed a boy she is australian royalty she has been on our screens being a judge being a brilliant judge on x factor she's basically done a bit of everything hasn't she she's a big musician she's a bit of everything, hasn't she? She's a big musician. She's a bit of a polymath, isn't she? A polymath. We have Dani Minogue coming for lunch on this Saturday. She's flown in from Australia.

Who knows how tired she's going to be? She's obviously over for promo for celebrating Neon Night's 20-year anniversary. And I wonder if she was eating loads of otolenghi when the album came out um and this new tv show on bbc3 you are cooking we only had one thing that she was pescatarian so what have you decided to do today mum i've done actually a recipe from a honey and coke cookbook was it honey and smoke honey and smoke well it's um their barbecue cookbook yeah but i haven't got my barbecue going yet. Oh, were you supposed to barbecue it? It said you didn't have to.

You could griddle it. Right. But you could barbecue it. So come on, tell me. So I've made salmon that you dip in fennel seeds. Yeah. Anything else? No.

Fennel seeds, pepper and salt. I've never done salmon with fennel seeds. Well, I think it will work. And then it's got a sauce, which doesn't really look like a sauce. It looks more like a topping, which is egg and dill and Dijon mustard and little spring onions. So like a sexy egg mayo. It looks like egg mayonnaise. I mean, it said greatly, it told you exactly the length of time to cook the eggs so

it was seven minutes so it's kind of a bit jammy I don't know were they jammy no I thought it would be kind of wet but anyway we'll see what it's like and I've done some little new potatoes with lemon zest and grainy mustard I've done a kind of I call it winter slaw but it's kind of so it's carrot cabbage fennel celery spring onions radishes okay all mixed together with lemon and any vinegar no I just did lemon juice and a bit of tiny bit of mayonnaise okay so it's quite dry quite quite dry like coleslaw with more bits in and then just some little gem lettuce it leaves with herbs and then lovely then fresh light yeah so then you know I like to now I can make panna cotta I like to make it so I found a recipe for a greek yogurt panna cotta and it's got orange zest in it and then you serve it

with griddled nectarines. I promise you I will do more cooking. Actually, I don't promise you but I will endeavour. As long as I don't have to cook in your house, I'm fine. All right, but it's a big week for me.

The album's coming out and I am being pulled left, right and centre. Yeah, I can see that. That's why I've tried to take the pressure off you, darling. I appreciate you. Can't wait. Danny Minogue on Table Miners.

You're here. You've come with loads of gifts. You are so sweet. You are jet-lagged. Yeah, I've been up since four. I came in from Australia a couple of days ago. And it's so bizarre being back here. I just, like, went past my old hood.

So I used to live in Battersea. Oh, yeah. So I went along the embankment. Battersea Park was my favourite place. Do you miss it? It's, I can't imagine living here now. What? How long were you here? When I lived here, I couldn't imagine leaving. So. What? How long were you here?

But when I lived here, I couldn't imagine leaving. Do you want some, Jess? Yes, I do. Yes, she does. I do, a smidge. Thank you. So up until seven years, I felt like I'm just here, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. And after seven years, it was that, oh, I live here.

And then I was here 22 years what yeah what made you go back having a child wanting to be near my family so ethan's 12 now so i just started yeah going back home and i just wanted that pod feeling of, you know, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. So I just wanted to be near mum. Look, you know. Yeah, yeah. Tell us about time in Battersea in London. What was kind of some of your memorable food moments?

Where did you used to go and eat? Did you have? Well, I had the most lovely neighbour. She was the most important to me. She was a lot older than I was. And I used to always volunteer to we were on the ninth floor I'd get out and clean the windows and she's like this is bizarre you're on like x-factor and then you're cleaning my windows and I'm like I'm cleaning mine I'm

gonna come and clean yours and she had keys to my place and I'd get back from x-factor at say one o'clock in the morning sometimes and she put a little tray in my fridge with a glass of wine poured sandwiches beautifully made she loved cooking and when her husband passed away who I was also very good friends with she adopted me she had no kids or grandkids and so her and I had this thing we'd love to share champagne and just look out at the view of London and it could be any time of day or any day and we'd just pop champagne and just be fabulous and she had a mint coat and I'd say go and get the mint coat put it on put it on we're drinking champagne celebrating nothing show is she still around yes she is oh that sounds fabulous yes she

she doesn't remember me though anymore now so um yes but cheers to joe she always loved and cheers to you for cleaning your own windows when you're a big primetime telly star oh my god well if you knew our whole family we're just so daggy like that we do it's just like doing normal things that we just love did you live in one of the mansion blocks then i was in like the first tall building that was in battersea near where the helicopters would land and it was right behind the old prices candle factory now there's big buildings all along there gorgeous around there yeah had a great view needed to see the water because i just it's so different living here it's so enclosed and australia is just so wide and vast and um have

you been to australia lenny no but i might It's really popular. Let's get you out there. Do you know you've got so many fans out there? I know, it's really popular. Jessie's going soon, aren't you? Yeah, we should have saved... But you need to go as well. They love you out there. Yeah, well, she'll find a way.

Let's set you up some podcasts to do that. Yeah, if you can put us in touch with some of your mates, you may want to go. We only know one Australian, Russell Crowe, I think. Well, and Nicole and your sister. Maybe we could get you back on, actually. Well, they're often away, but we'll set a schedule. Okay, this is great.

They love you. Like, all my friends listen, so hi. Oh, really? Hi, whoever's listening all over the world. That's a good g'day. Thank you. Thanks so much. I'm actually, I'm going to Australia in November

for this festival called Summer Camp. Yeah. I love the new songs, by the way. Thank you. Cannot wait for the album to drop. Thank you. I'm listening to them and it's great because I know what the album's going to be,

but I'm getting frustrated because I don't know the rest of it. I love you. You're so sweet. Do you feel, I kind of feel, because I have this, I mean, I keep it going, relationship with your wonderful sister, I now kind of feel like you're like my cousin or my other sister. This is fabulous. I feel like I know you as well through Kylie.

But we also watched you on our screens. Yeah. You've been a pop star. You are, you are, you've been everything. See, I forget that. I'm just thinking just thinking oh you know me through no and kylie so no you are the best god best judge the best judge oh my god so did you find it easy i felt like it was the weirdest thing because i it wasn't something i thought, that's something I want to do. When I was asked to do it, I thought, this is bizarre.

What am I doing? I don't know how to do this at all. And once I learnt what to do and eased into it, I just thought, I really want to find my own way. I'm not copycatting anything. Like you learn the nuts and bolts and then i thought i just want to be me i want to lead with my heart i want this to be real and you know just connect with people yeah that's what you did constructive it wasn't like you were just like i loved it but you were there was a warmth about how you did constructive it wasn't like you were just like I laughed at but you were there was a warmth about how you did it yeah I'm a bit it well it's just that was the

truth it's just being me I'm kind of like tough love and you know all my contestants know like I'll I'll say it how it is but I'm here to mother you and that's when I first I'd never thought of being a mum it was through that experience of this mentoring that I thought I love this I love putting energy into someone and seeing them blossom it was and who would have thought like I never thought I'd be in that job I never thought that would unlock that feeling for me and here I am a mum and I just I love it who was your favorite contestant to speak about your children like this I know you're no I was gone before that um but look I'm friends with a lot of them okay on the last trip when I came around September last year I went to see Lucy Jones in Wicked she's finished

in that now and she's incredible and um when she got the job she'd been trying to get that lead role for 10 years wow of Alphaba and she messaged me in Australia and she said you're the first person I want to tell so we you know we go deep and they know that I'm always there. And yeah, a lot of them I'm friends with. Well, let's start at the beginning. So this is a food podcast, as you know. Love food. Great.

All of my friends know. They will be laughing their heads off going, she loves food, she loves cooking, she loves eating. Well, I do love that you've gone to your favourite deli in Chiswick and brought... I'm already sold that you love eating. I wish I had more time, but yeah, the Italians. It's a cool place where I go to with my friend.

That's near where I'm staying and near where I'm working. Yeah, I love food. So when you were younger, did you love food? I did. And what was a memorable dish from your childhood? Growing up, if mum had to work at night and, you know, rarely we had a babysitter, she would kind of let us eat whatever we wanted. And I used to love getting mashed potato and just tomato sauce,

like squeezing it all over. And you just do everything that you can do when mum was there. And I always thought mum's a really crap cook. And it put me off eating meat. At 13, I never ate meat again. And she's the best cook. And now I get it being a mum. Like school night dinners are just stressful.

It's got to be on time and, you know, and I like, I think I have an Italian mother trapped inside me. I like cooking for a lot of people and I like overfeeding you, you know. But I like time. I put music on and candles. That's cooking to me. But you said today, nowesse's really stressed at the minute it's just because the album's coming out in promo week but it's fine but she just said i

all i want to do is go home and cook it's my way of like it's an outlet and it's creative yeah and i'm sure your cooking changes when you're in the writing process to when you're in promo mode i never even thought about yeah yeah because that creativity thing i find it's always so different i do i have to say i did roast a radicchio for the first time this week maybe i'm longing for a bit more creativity in the kitchen because i'm so sick of talking about my bloody self you know that promo bit yeah tell me about you i want to know about school night dinners with ethan i want to know is he inviting all his mates around he eats meat i don't know what to cook so my boyfriend's great he likes american cooking so he'll get on a smoker out

the back and do eight 12 hour meats i wish i could eat them the smell is amazing if there's a barbecue or a smoke or anything nearby i'll be standing next to it the only vegetarian just going i know like i and the smell of bacon and all that i love it but i just don't eat it you don't get If I have a queue or a smoke or anything nearby, I'll be standing next to it. The only vegetarian just going... I know, it smells divine. And the smell of bacon and all that, I love it, but I just don't eat it. But you don't get to enjoy... You've enjoyed the aroma for 12 hours, but you don't actually eat it. No. But I like the look of it.

I can order for other people on a menu. I'll know when it's right. But when did you stop eating meat? I was 13. I think mum, you know, having three kids, she was driving me around to lots of rehearsals because I was working full time then and there were no tutors or drivers or anything.

You started working when you were eight? I started at seven. I was full time from ten and mum was basically my uber and so doing that and three kids and cooking meals that's why I thought she was a bad cook and there was a lot a lot of meat that I think was quite overcooked and quite tough and um I it it put me off I'm sad sad to say because my son and my boyfriend have just been at her place today and they've had shank. You know, slow roast. Oh, my gosh.

Slow roast some lamb shank. So she's from Wales. She loves lamb. Lamb, lamb, lamb. Me too. It's my favorite, I think. You always give her lamb. And in Australia you get, like, from New Zealand, good lambs.

Though I know all about it, I just don't eat it. You're not tempted? No. Because probably when she puts it in her mouth, she wouldn't like it. It's the texture. Yeah. Yeah. Even if fish is veering towards that texture like a swordfish, I'm like, hmm.

Can you eat salmon? Yes. Okay. Thank God for that. Oh, God. Oh, God. I was worried for a sec. Great. Fine. Good. Fine. Okay, thank God for that. Oh God, I was worried for a sec. Great, fine, good, fine. Oh my God, you've got more things to panic about than me eating salmon.

So then, Ethan eats meat, you cook it, but what would be something that you could whip up for the kids after school? Jess, are you trying to get tips? Yeah, I'm trying to get ideas because we're on like fish fingers and beans at the moment. I'm crap at that kind of cooking. But a few mum friends said, have you got an air fryer? And I'm like, no, what do I do with an air fryer? No, I wonder about this. Have you got one now?

Yes, I do. And there are a few things I've learned and that's easy. And you can put in a bit of salmon and for fries. It's the best thing on the planet. Jessie, we've got to get one. You can either cut them fresh or you're getting them straight from out the freezer. Put them in. Yep. Life changing, ladies.

I've heard you talk about the air fryer on the podcast before. And I'm like, have they got one yet? No, we haven't. No. No, you need one. So it takes up bench space. Yeah, that's the only thing. I have a little butler's pantry and it's got its own space.

Everything has to move away because you need airflow around it. But, oh, my God, amazing. And good for just kids' things. It's quick as well, isn't it? Yeah. Everybody who goes to Australia says that the food is sensational. But I don't know of any famous Australian chefs who are the big oh we oh my god this is a whole podcast series okay getting into Australia

and I think you need to interview the chefs because you start with Neil Perry you go there like I mean his restaurant Neil Perry so Rockwell is his favorite one he has it in sydney and melbourne maybe um some other cities as well but kylie and i go there a lot that's like you know a place where we will go as a family or hang out um is it fine dining or is it kind of more relaxed he's very into the ingredients so um when he first opened the the menu on the meat was where did it come from uh what was it fed and who is the farmer and you go from there and all of the ingredients and all the waiters know exactly everything it's not like you say oh does that have tomato in it and they go oh i don't know'll go and find out. They'll tell you where the tomato came from. So it's very ingredient-led.

Can we do a food tour of Australia with you two? I'd love it. Let's do it. Maybe we should do it together. I'm writing all these. I'm going to send you different chefs and places. Oh, my God. You've got to go to Icebergs in Bondi Beach.

I've seen that. It looks stunning. You have to go this next trip. Okay my God. You've got to go to icebergs in Bondi beach. I've seen that. It looks stunning. You have to go this next trip. Okay, fine. But Jessie, you said Melbourne is good. I ate very well in St. Kilda.

Okay. Yeah. I don't know St. Kilda so well. I don't go down that way. Are you from Sydney? No, I'm from Melbourne. Yeah.

That's what I was thinking. Neighbours was done in Melbourne. Not that you were in, but like Neighbours was Melbourne, right? Yeah. Where do your family live? Sydney now? No, we're all Melbourne.

Melbourne still. But do you live in Melbourne? I did Home and Away, which was Sydney-based. So Summer Bay is up at Palm Beach. Yeah, I had to move out of home, so it was weird. How old were you? 17. I'd never lived out of home.

I didn't have a driver's license or a car I had to get my license a car find somewhere to live and work out how to get around Sydney this is pre-sat nav kids I had a Gregory's that's called there like in Melbourne it's a Melways get the big book and you've got to map it out and just know where you're going what was the car you were driving why am I imagining you like in a truck with a surfboard in the back i don't surf and i don't drive trucks but i love a ute that only came way later because dad's really into cars what's it called a ute a ute which like in america it's a pickup truck okay yeah so yeah you're driving the front and then it's flat

at the back and you can throw yeah that there That's what I'm thinking of you That's what Jonah has If you come to our farm I could drive you there in the ute I want to hear about the family farm Are you growing produce? Are you rearing cattle? We have cattle and mum grows a lot of fruit and veggies

We just did a harvest of passion fruit Before I left Oh come on. She's done garlic before, which is just so different from what you get in the stores. When did this happen? You haven't always lived on a farm, have you? No.

Is this kind of... No, we don't. Like, we live there part-time. So we're part-time farmers. So is that like our version of having like the country house here, but you're just like being put to work in the fields, doing the, or not, just patting the cows? We do have a manager who works with the cattle.

I wouldn't know what, I mean, I wouldn't know what to do. She's a super glamorous woman. But we're not at the farm. I wouldn't put it past her, to be honest. So the minute we step on the farm carly and i have clothes there that are old they've got holes in them we won't let go of them we we look homeless and that feels so good after the lashes the makeup the heels and hair which we love but it's that balance and it goes it it you because it's so extreme what we do on stage it goes low it i mean you're welcome to come and have a look it's ugg boots they're the only things you're allowed

to wear they're back in fashion now boots or flip-flops that's it danny do you get on when you were little did you get on really well with kylie most of the time because jesse and hannah they used to fight a lot in fact hannah front teeth fake because my sister like oh my in the bath when you were how old were you seven the front tooth had just come through and now i'm looking at my daughters that fell out yesterday like she's six and so it's just falling out and i'm just thinking hold on to that girl because you never know your brother may come and fucking knock it out in in a year oh that's brutal no nothing like that

there's a brother so Kylie's the eldest then my brother and then I'm the little baby but we're kind of just over three years apart and you all get on well we do we did fight I think you have to think that's how you learn

because my son's an only child, like I remember when he first socialised, you know, started socialising at school, he's like, Mummy, why would people be mean? I'm like, oh, it's kind of hard to. You learn that from your brothers and sisters. You learn how to defend yourself. You learn, you know, to sense when something's coming. Whereas Ethan rocked up at

school and it's like whoa didn't see that coming at all like so he's you know took him a long while to get it what do lots of australian kids i mean like in the states everyone has hot dogs or hamburgers or melted cheese sandwich what what would be the kind of thing that australian kids school food yeah school food is all sandwiches dim sum dim sum sushi how oh you salads indian curries like we are so multicultural that the cafes have embraced that when i grew up it was full-on Aussie meat pies sandwiches sunny boys which is this frozen triangular shape sunny boys big m milk they don't have that anymore um like just flavors it's like a frozen pyramid of sort of orange flavored something but like you know we have hot days there at school so it could be 40

degrees and above and it's hot so you have this frozen block it melts pretty quickly but that just really cools you down at lunchtime so that's quite important for our you know whereas in colder climate it's important to have a warm meal to warm you up but we have everything at school there like it I think it you know represents a lot of the kids that are there I mean you know you've got to keep it tight at some point to what you can serve but I would have loved that I remembered now that Danny said I'm starving when she walked in should we eat yes um i've got to have a photo of this okay um i don't know you know what so so there's a really great restaurant here um called honey and co and um and i think this is a recipe from them but they're wonderful this is an egg and dill sauce for the

top of that but whether it works i just don't then the salmon has fennel seeds on it. Yeah. And what else, Mum? I love that. I'm going to move these. I'm going to get that out of the way. Okay, and then this is just a herb salad. And that's like a winter slaw here.

It's got a zillion things in it. Bon appetit. Bon appetit. I hope it's nice. Just digging in. Thank you. And enjoy. But yeah, so this is kind of like an egg mayo.

It's like egg with dill. And I don't know that it's an egg and dill. Well, salmon and egg goes well together, doesn't it? It's an odd one, I think. Yeah, but why did you decide to do it? Because I just thought, I like honey and co. It's really good, Mum. Yeah, I'll have the recipe for that.

Thank you. So if you were going to have us over when we come over and we do this food tour with you yes we come to yours what would you be cooking we can cook at the farm we can cook at the house we'll go to restaurants so my well what i used to always cook in london was risotto so my friends used to always request that so i'd cook up risotto and then i'd get little containers and they'd all have little take-home packs because I'm the feeder. If I'm cooking for you in Australia, my favourite to do is like a Japanese tuna that's seared.

So I get sashimi-grade tuna and then I just make up this marinade of soy sauce, wasabi and seven spice. Like it's this Japanese thing. It's kind of like got a chili zing to it. And I have to go to the Japanese store to get that. It's not something you get in the supermarket. So just mix all of that together and you can make it as spicy as you want, depending on how much wasabi and seven spice you're putting in. Marinade that for, you know, half an hour or a couple of hours, whatever you want depending on how much wasabi and seven spice you're putting in marinade that for you know half an hour or a couple of hours whatever you want

and then just bring it to room temperature sear it i can do it in the pan but i would prefer to do it on the barbecue so you get that real barbecue flavor See, I think this egg works. I do too. It is incredible. It's really yummy. So, you're here. Yeah. Not just to have lunch with us.

I'm here, I'm queer. Well, let's go into that. Oh my goodness, it's exciting. I kissed a boy. BBC Three. You're the host. You're the host. You're the mother. I'm the Cupid I always wanted to be.

Tell us about this. It's a new dating show. Tell us more. Well, I think the most incredible thing, not just all the details of what I can tell you about the show, and it was filmed in Italy. Amazing. Like, if you get a job like that, it's like,

this is going to be filmed in Italy, and, you know, Prosecco and gorgeous food and turn up in a couture frock. Is that where it's been filmed? Yeah, we did it last year. Probably the postman. I'm right here. Do you want me to get it? Yeah, imagine.

Imagine. I have a heart attack. so so the craziest thing is yeah that this is 2023 and like this will be a time stamp moment for this podcast it's 2023 and we're sitting here going currently there's never been a gay dating show on uk tv it's. I find that mind-blowing. When it comes out of my mouth, I'm like, no, then, you know, seriously? But no, there hasn't been one. So it's a first. And it's like hopefully the door opens and then, you know,

anything could happen from there. Then possibilities begin. But someone has to, you you know really do it and get it done and i think there's because it hasn't been done for so long everyone's nervous what do you do are you going to do it the right way is everyone going to like it you know and we still have all of those you know are people going to like it it's all boys right um um are we allowed to talk about the first thing that they have to do the first thing that they're invited to do and they don't have to do it okay is they have been matched with someone you know these are people who you think about the millions of people across

the uk that are looking for someone to be with for for someone to love. So that's where we're starting off. This isn't a hookup. They're looking for someone to be with. You can keep swiping, keep swiping, get exhausted and just go, well, that's not working. So there are a team of people that are doing extensive interviews and ask you what you like and what you want and what you don't want and what are the, you know. proper matchmakers yeah yeah so you are in like the most incredible scenario you've

been flown to Italy and somebody has been paired with you how that works out we don't know like we're following the journey but at gosh at least. I mean, aren't you in a better position than just swiping and going, oh, you know, he wasn't this tall or had that job or whatever, like he said he was going to do. It's quite an old-fashioned way of doing it, actually. This is like, you know, being at the Dirty Disco and you see someone, you go, oh, I like them, I want to kiss them. You have a passion.

And then you're like, okay, where are you from? And that's sort of exactly how it starts like okay tell me about you what sweet you have a pash though don't you pash i love you can you can so you never know like are they gonna kiss or aren't they gonna kiss um did you see any really passionate pashes and did you feel a bit like maybe i shouldn't be in the room when this is happening yeah which is great and that you know and that used to happen at the nightclub and you'd be like okay there's two people passing over there and that's that's cool they're into it and I like that so the the show's

out in a week yes on the May the 14th are there some happy endings wait wait by happy endings romantic happy endings do people find love that's the plan but I can't give anything away now quite selfishly Danny I'm about to be in a semi similar position to you

and I need some tips you are one of the best judges hosts out there I'm about to go and do a Mamma Mia TV show where I'm a mentor. Yep. Set in Greece. So I'm going to get a really nice bass tan for the summer. Oh my goodness. It's trying to find the new musical star for the Mamma Mia West End show.

And I feel very, very privileged and lucky to be able to be a mentor for people. Any tips? You'll love it tips any tips though because you really were brilliant and are brilliant so you just got to be you you've got to just go in there as you and not overthink it at all um just be honest be real and and that's all you can do and it's the wanting it for them. If you really want to see other people get this job that they want so badly, it is so easy.

Yes. That's true. They want to do this and I want to help them. I've had all of these amazing things that I've been able to do and I remember wanting it so badly. And now I can help someone else get that. If you want that, it's super easy because you're just for you. Okay.

Thank you. But you are going to be kind. Of course I'm going to be kind. I can't remember in the old days when people say that was a little pitchy or you're out of tune or yeah but people don't say that anymore i think you're allowed to say if it was a bit pitchy yeah aren't you it's kind of constructive yeah the funny thing was some of the people who were saying it didn't even know what pitchy meant but but did you ever see people and you thought what in god's name did they ever think that they could sing?

Yeah. It's so amazing. It was a different time where they were allowed to... Have a go. Well, they had people that were slightly deluded and they do that as entertainment in X Factor. I think it's changed a bit, but you know what I mean? It was a time where some of the people

that maybe shouldn't be going on a talent show were put on as entertainment. I'm sure that was quite hard for you as a judge to watch that. Yeah, I mean, they gave everyone a go. And there's a cross section of people and everyone who turned up to that door wanted it and was sure they were good enough. Okay. Now, whether they are or not is for us to say, but you let them through the door. Now, whether they are or not is for us to say, but you let them through the door.

That was the difference of it being, you know, like a theatre casting where you'd come from agents and stuff. This is open to anyone. And I kind of applaud that because that's what it was. Like, if you want to do this, come and give it a go. However, you do see people. I remember the wildest one was actually in Australia doing X Factor there and we were in like a big arena venue for the auditions. And this person came on and they were singing so out of tune that everyone was laughing.

And then at the end, the performer was like so tell me like is it great and i'm and i said do you think that you maybe you're hearing something different to what everyone else is hearing like just to try and just open open the door um but no they didn't they didn't they thought they were great yeah yeah i think the way that you just said that though is really like brilliant you're right yeah i guess if they want to have a go i guess sometimes they're going to keep going through life forever thinking that thinking they're great so they have that opportunity they walk through the door and they go okay someone told me i'm not but sometimes it doesn't stack up against the amount of times that they've been told that they're

brilliant so they're like we've had people say to us like you for a dummy I'm out of here and we're like good luck with that I mean you know it's it is what it is so so are you excited I am excited i am i'm so excited i'm excited for the opportunity i'm excited to hear some amazing talent yeah you'll know and the thing is like it doesn't have to be perfect at that stage no but if you get the goosebumps you get something yeah if somebody really wants it and they're willing to work and it attitude is 50% of it. Okay, yeah. I've seen people with the most amazing voices across everything.

And I know that they will never be able to work with anyone. And you know, therefore, they're never going to have a career. You have to work with other people to have a career. Otherwise, go busk. Very good point. Thank you, Dani. Would you like to come to Greece with me for a month a month yeah you can have like a little earpiece what do you miss about being in europe because it's a long way melbourne isn't it yeah i do love i've always loved the fashion, the music, that sense of the buzz,

you know, of what is possible, particularly London has always had like such a big fashion background and then we grew up on a lot of British music and we loved British comedies. Oh, my God, we loved British comedies. Oh, do you? Yeah, so we have the ABC out in Australia and they would play well going back to like

Fawlty Towers The Young Ones oh all of those thank you I remember Fawlty Towers I mean I don't really watch I don't feel like I feel like I got into

like comedies when it was like Birds of a Feather and Ab Fab like British ones yeah I mean I you watched Friends

we watched Friends I mean it was just on it was on like yeah but that was a bit later but yeah british the teens are so into friends now i used to watch heartbreak high that was my thing neighbors home and away so are you gonna go to like the neighbor said or home and away beach like to summer bay i feel like it would kind of be rude not to but i mean I'd almost prefer to go to the restaurants. So they've rebooted Neighbours now so it finished and now

How did they do that? Amazon or Netflix? But how can they get everyone to do a farewell episode and now they've rebooted it? Well no one knew that it was going No, no. It was very sad So Kylie went out and did the last episode

and going back to Ramsey Street. With Jason. Yeah, with Jason. It was amazing. And his father was a part of that. So it was sad. There was a lot going on in everyone's hearts and minds for that. No one knew.

Are they going to change it? It's not going to be on Ramsey Street now? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure about this reboot. Oh, God, I'd definitely tune in. I'd definitely tune in. Would you?

Oh, yes. I'd have a... Did you know Jason? Did he come round to your house? I imagine because he was going out with Kylie. Yeah, they were dating, so... Were they dating? That's no boyfriend.

In real life? Oh, my God, Mum. I didn't realise. Fucking hell. God, I didn't realise, darling. I need to know. We only got up to the slow-cooked meats. I need to know if you're a pudding person.

Not really. Not really. I do... Would you have cheese? You brought cheese over. Yeah. And salty olives. You're savoury.

Savoury, salty. What are these new chips you've been talking about? What new chips? The salt and vinegar. You were talking about this. Did I talk about salt and vinegar? A salt and vinegar chip. You said this is...

Oh, you get them in the theatre? This. The Yorkshire. They're only in the theatre. Salt and vinegar crisps. If you're in Soho this week... I don't know. You're doing a performance at GAY this week.

I don't know. They're the very hard, crunchy ones. They are phenomenal. Blow your face off. Like we're having wasabi where you're like, ah! Yeah. No. If I'd known, I would have found it.

I would have gone to West End and got you. You're very well talking after the event, darling. They are phenomenal. Yeah, I've got to try them. When were you at the theatre? I also like the co-op ones. I think they're so salty because they want you to order more drinks, right? No, it's the vinegar in it. darling they are phenomenal yeah i've got to try them oh yeah when were you at the theater i also like the co-op one it's so salty because they want you to order more drinks right no it's the vinegar in it the vinegar is that that's what smacks you yeah yeah but probably you're right yeah it's not my favorite salt and vinegar what would be yours cheese and onion oh no no anti-social

lovely absolutely not she doesn't care so you wouldn wouldn't, so you, so listen. She doesn't care. We do have a pudding for you. Yes, look, I mean, I. You only have to have a little taste. Yeah, I'll taste things that I don't mind. I'm just not, I'm not a big sugar person, but. Neither am I. I do love bacon.

This isn't very sugary, actually. So then would you, would you, after Friends would be around, what would you have as your end? Would you have a cheese plate? It gets to that point and I'm like, oh shit. I completely forget that other people love sweet things. Yeah, that's me. What's a very popular pudding in Australia? What is it?

Not pavlova. Pavlova's. Yeah, big. Yeah, for like Christmas and kind of special events. That would be the main thing. That's main thing having a gathering yeah yeah so on christmas day christmas day i do like there's a recipe that i've got i'll find it it's somewhere on my computer and it's like a christmas pudding which can be you know kind of heavy after you've been eating and eating and eating. Because I'll go back for seconds and thirds.

Yeah. It's like the flavor of a Christmas pudding in ice cream. Oh, I love that. Oh, that should do me. I love that. Yeah, and because it's hot for us for Christmas. And you're making that yourself. Yeah, I've made that.

Yeah, loads of like cinnamon, nutmeg. You've got, you know, allspice, dried fruits, little chips of chocolate. I don't know about this dating program. I think you should have your own bloody cook show. Now, can I ask you, this is a serious question. Do you love leftovers? Yes. Okay.

Because there are people who love and people who won't touch them. Do you love them? But I think it's a very... I'm taking a little goodie bag i love leftovers i think it's a particular kind of leftover some i just can't do again yeah but my husband's weird about freezing things not eating things that have been frozen i'm like that's mad so i can have a beautiful food food that i've frozen it's fresh as anything when you do it again yeah and he's weird about that but he'll have a good food that I've frozen. It's fresh as anything when you do it again. Yeah, yeah.

And he's weird about that, but he'll have a good leftover. If you freeze things right, then it's done right. And because my boyfriend will do the smoke stuff, it's like, you know, when do you have that day when you've got eight, 14 hours to do it? So you'll do a lot. And then we do that, I don't know what you call it, where you vac pack it. Oh, wow.

Yeah, and then freeze it. You're like a professional kitchen. And then we'll make something for my brother and drop it like oh wow yeah and then freeze it and then you're like a professional like kitchen brother and drop it around for my sister and my mom and dad and go here's a little pack i need to get into bloody yeah i don't know the proper name for it but it's like that you have to have another bloody gadget to go and but it's so small it's only this big it's like the size of um cling film i had to think of the British word, glad wrap, cling film. All my Australian friends will be like, what the hell is she? They will be texting me, what is cling film?

Oh, really? We don't know what cling film is. What do you call it? Glad wrap. Glad wrap? Why is it called glad? G'day. You're glad that you.

How you going? Glad wrap. Should be, right? I mean, like, I don't know. It's glad wrap. It's Glad Wrap. It's like flip-flops or thongs, but they're not thongs here. So I have to just sometimes, if I'm about to say a word, just stop. Glad Wrap.

Okay. Realign. Don't say thongs, say flip-flops. I mean, to be fair, cling film. I mean, Glad Wrap, cling film, what do I prefer? Look, we'll educate you when you both get there. I'm really excited about this I feel like you're going to really host us and I will I'll educate I'll set out a roadmap and stuff

so so your last supper what would it be you've got a starter main pud drink of choice and uh who would be at that dinner table look I'd want my mum to cook because she honestly is she's a she felt bad about saying she was a shit cook from when she was younger that's just mum cooking now i get it you you learn everything as you grow up and then you're like okay now i understand my parents um yeah and be something cooked by mom um she does these amazing, it's a bit of a seafood whatever's coming fresh from the garden. Yeah. So normally some salmon, maybe a mix of like a bit of a marinara. Even though I don't eat meat, she'll do a half chicken, half seafood stock.

I like making my own shell food stock. So I make it. I take it to her place and then I ask her to make this seafood thing and she'll get like silver beet from the garden and dill and just, you know. What's silver beet? Like a beetroot? No, like a chard. I don't know what you call it here.

Rainbow chard. I don't know what you call it here. Rainbow chard? Like it's more than a spinach with like charades here with the big white bit up the middle that you slice out. Silverbeet. See, we'd have, you know. I've never heard of silverbeet. Aubergine we call eggplant. It's like it's the translation. I don't know what the translation.

No, no, it's not an Asian green. Okay. Silverbeet. I'm going to look it look it up fine so you'd have silverbeet how would that be a bit of lingo by the time you get there you're like you know and did you try vegemite by the way i actually for all my rinsing it over the years i really like it yeah i do like it i love marmite but i love that in fancy delis you can get vegemite like it's like really high cuisine yeah do they do it with cheese and butter i mean toasted well i mean no i mean you can get the jar oh the jar right right right yeah um yeah i mean you've got to have vegemite or marmite with cheese and butter yeah and peanut butter trust me what i've never heard of this just spread some peanut butter vegemite or marmite with cheese and butter yeah and peanut butter trust me what i've

never heard of this just spread some peanut butter vegemite and peanut butter you know that's a whole thing here now we've got marmite and peanut butter in a jar no whoa oh my god do you not like i've never heard of it i love peanuts okay so don't knock it until you've tried it, Danny Minogue. Thank you very much. I guess you salt peanuts. It's got creaminess. And Vegemite is salty. So think about this. Okay, it's going to take me a while to get my head around. Trust me.

Oh, thank you. It may change your life and Ethan's life. With a sharp cheddar grated over so it doesn't need to be melted, the cheddar. Right. Toast, Vegemite, peanut butter, cheese. cheese okay so the peanut butter would be the fats and the oils so normally we do avo vegemite butter and bread yeah lovely and cheese just add a bit of peanut butter so the peanut butter is taking over the place of the oils of the avocado and the creaminess yeah Yeah, avocado's creamy.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. You give it to Ethan and his mates after school as a little snack. You're going to be like star mum. I tell you, Ethan and I have to hide just when we're having Vegemite and cheese and butter because my boyfriend cannot stand the smell of Vegemite. That makes me not trust him a little bit. We don't have it when he's around.

So it's normally if we're like, if I take him to a gig or something, we get home late and it's like a late night thing. And it's like, you know, we'll wait till Adrian is just, like, heading off and then we'll be like, a bit hungry, are you? Yeah, a bit hungry. Okay. Late night snack. Just you and me, let's go.

Yeah. Oh, mum. This is pretty nice. Delicate. This is delicious. What is the green bit the cream bit it's no like the herb or something oh is that a herb oh is it lemon there's no orange orange orange is grated in it and then what, the panna cotta? Yeah. Orange rind in the panna cotta. Orange zest. And then the top is vanilla and just sugar. And they're just griddled. This is beautiful.

This is not too sweet for me. It's not too sweet, is it? Yes. I need to ask you about Neon Nights. You have an anniversary. 20 years. Muscle talk. How are you going to celebrate you're gonna do some gigs

um well mostly i've just been focusing on the release with um london records so who are a brilliant record label to be with yeah the whole thing came about um pete tong asked me to sing a vocal on another record so there was a record out in Ibiza called Stringer, an instrumental that was huge. It was blowing up. He said, we've got a song written to it. Love you to sing it. Would you do it?

And I was like, I didn't think I was ever going to be doing Mizzkick again. I'm like, I thought someone was messing with me. Oh, yeah, right. Pete Tong's on the phone asking me to sing a vocal. Like, sure, sure. Like, coming from pop music, like, yeah, like, that's going to happen. I really thought I was being, you know. Pranked.

Yeah, big time. Danny. And then the success of that single was just a one-off single led to this album, which just became a whole thing. And it's so amazing when you get to celebrate it years down the track because you have the time to because i know what you're you're on promo now i'm in it and you you're just going where do i have to be what am i wearing what have i got to pack and what am i doing tomorrow in the next three days and you're like every 24 hour increments

but um now i can just enjoy it so we've got a great release package um i want to do like some signings i'd like to do a listening yes it would be so good because when you hear every oh listening party what's that so a song for somebody if song comes on and you get a full body reaction to it and it takes you back like a scent can, like something you eat, something you smell, a song, and it takes you back, particularly music, that obviously means whatever it means to that person. So people will have these incredible experiences, but to hear your fans tell you what that means to them is insane she's finished it

mum loved it you may have changed danny minogue's taste buds for god's sake that is my kind of dessert i thought it was good i feel like that could work in the balmy weather of melbourne yeah and i make my own, my God. Oh, you're overachieving now, Danny. Yeah, so that's perfect for me. I've always got my, make my yoghurt, and that's in the fridge ready to go. Now, I'm looking at your watch. Is that one of your watches? Your design? Yeah, it's got a little rainbow flag around it.

I almost would have it off her wrist. Let me see. Oh, my goodness, darling. How much of your stuff are you wearing right now? Look at that. This is from your own fashion brand. My dress is from my Australian label. The shoes are from my UK label.

That is gorgeous. That's from my UK label. This was a present from... Kathy Lett gave me that. Kylie and I did Mardi Gras at World Pride recently. Yes, it was amazing. And she gave us both this. She gave Kylie one and me.

It's like gorgeous. It has quartz and they're different like crystals. Yeah, crystals. And it has a rainbow coloured crystal. That will keep us sorted. It hasn't been off my wrist. It's gorgeous. Yeah, it's all my stuff.

The stuff doesn't fit me. So the reason why i started designing was i'm petite which just means short they don't make fashion for short they make it for tall people and then you've got to cut everything off but when you cut it off it still doesn't look right it doesn't look right on the body it makes you look shorter and wider so if you make clothing for petite that's cut right you look slimmer taller more confident like i've got body issues because i would go into shops and nothing would ever fit and i'm like so there's something wrong with me and it doesn't that that thing that happens in your brain has nothing to do with what

dress size you are well i mean that's that's clever you basically couldn't get it in the shop her genetics are petite. Your genetics aren't, darling. We're all different, aren't we? We all come in different shapes and sizes. I'm sorry about that. It's okay, Mum. How tall are you? I was five foot six and a half.

I think you're big. Oh my God, you're shrinking, aren't you? Yeah, you shrink. You do. And I asked why you did. It's to do with the... Gravity. The gravity compression of your bones and also like your vertebrae mostly.

I think exercising can help. And I think I probably should be on one of those stretching machines. No, stop. You go upside down. I do feel when I finish a Pilates session, I'm torn. I'm staying at my friend's place. I set off the alarm this morning. Oh, my God.

I'm trying to explain. Oh, no. The security are talking through the alarm and I'm going, I'm so sorry. I haven't kissed you. But my friend is overseas. He's in Bali. He's not answering his phone now and the alarm is going off. Oh, my God.

Oh, man, I'm sorry. So, yes, I would think if I went on one of those upside-down things, I'd get stuck, but probably that's what we need. I think Pilates helps. I feel taller when I've done it. I heard you do Pilates. Do you need coffee, darling? I'd love a coffee.

Would you like an espresso? Yeah. I've only got espresso. Is that all right? Yeah. Thanks. I would like, my last question, you talked about music being nostalgic

and you talked about that moment of it bringing you back and you mentioned taste and scent. What would be a taste which could transport you back to somewhere happy or sad? A taste. Or a smell, like a scent. You know what? I do like a drink.

I like a bubble. I like a wine. Like a wine, like sipping on something, being with friends, partying. That just makes me feel like we're celebrating. I like that. And, you know, as I said with my, partying, that just makes me feel like we're celebrating. I like that. And, you know, as I said with my neighbour, Jo, we could be celebrating just we're here today. Oh, Jo.

Thank you for being here. Thank you for taking the time to come for lunch. It's such a pleasure to meet you. I feel like we've known you forever, and you're even better in real life, to be honest. Well, I can't wait to come to australia and have we just carry on this beautiful album release it's just gonna be so good thank you and congratulations on all your success you are an entrepreneur you are a talent you are the nicest person in show business i mean you

all you minogues are you gonna watch i kissed a boy absolutely Of course. Are you going to be like... Mum's going to think, who's not fixed up on the telly? She'll fix him up with her son. You'll probably be like, oh, I wouldn't have put those two together. Yeah. Do you think that they'll do a female version of this? Absolutely. Yeah, has to be. I think it's just creating that space where we're just opening the door and I think

this is a time for you know you can think whatever you think of the show you can judge it you know be be the couch judge scream at the tv love it hate it whatever just tune in and watch it because this is a first but it's just opening the door for the possibilities for anything to happen for anyone and the people that I've spoken to they're not gay but their sister is and you know it's just like you know what they've been through in their families I think there's a lot of learning I thought okay I have a lot of gay friends and I was thinking, okay, you know, it'll just be do they get together. But I was learning so much stuff during the show that I came up with my drag queen name while we were on set.

Oh, are you going to show us? And she's Scottish and I cannot do the accent. But why did she, why did she do Scottish if you can't do the accent? Because of her first name, she's Morgay by the day. And I was getting Morgay by the day. I was learning a lot. You are going to know stuff that you had no idea about before watching this show.

Very good. Will you text me and go, what's the dark room and what's happening here? It's not. I don't think I do need to know. Look, the show, there are things that just come up in conversation. And what I love is that they're not explained because this is made for the gay community and it's about time. Well said, Dunny.

I think you must have been really well-parented and well-mothered. I can't wait for you to meet my parents. You just come across as such a warm, maternal person. And I think you can only get that from experience in a way. So credit to you. What's your mum called? Carol. Credit to Carol.

Daniel Minogue, thank you for being here. Thank you. well what a gorgeous woman i know she just is fabulous and so interesting and does so many different things i i knew i'd like her but she was jesse she's busier than you She was... Jessie, she's busier than you. I'm not saying something. She is so lovely and so warm and open and passionate and, like, genuine. I know that sounds really obvious to say. Yeah, she feels real.

Yeah, she was just lovely. And really good fun. And I can't wait for her to curate a whole itinerary of eating when we go to Australia I mean I'm kind of saying I don't want to be pushy but I would like quite like to go to Australia me too yeah um thank you for listening um if you fancy celebrating neon nights go and buy the new reissue 20 year anniversary London records um definitely tune in to BBC3 next week for the start of the new dating show I Kissed A Boy

I think it sounds really interesting and brilliant we'll see you next week for another episode of Tame the Mammoth