Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S2 Ep 1: Ed Sheeran

Episode Date: February 14, 2018

Table Manners returns with Ed Sheeran and an even more ferocious appetite! Yes, mum and I are back and still arguing over who does the dishes. Four helpings later, we're talking death row dinners, Lion bars, rotting shark and pizza butties… Produced by Alice Williams for Cup and Nuzzle Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

welcome to series two of table manners the podcast with me jessie ware and my dear mother lenny hi there she is the woman has so much to say but yeah with a little squeak of a hi hi mum it's great to have you back thank you darling what do you back? I've never been anywhere. I've still been cooking for you. How are you feeling? New series. Pretty tired, darling.

What's new? Been cooking for two days. I know, we've got quite a few that we're doing this week. So it's a bit of a full-time job. Yeah, it is. Are you still enjoying it? I don't like it when I have to do a lot of cooking all the time. And I realise how easy my life has been when I don't cook so much.

When you don't see me. Yeah, when I don't see you. Well, sorry, we're back in business and we've got series two and it feels good. And there's lots of exciting people coming on. There's lots of exciting guests. Yeah. Who are you most excited about? I'm very excited to meet Jay Rayner.

Me too. I'm very excited to meet Ralph Little. Political, exciting. I'm going to maybe let you talk quite a lot about that one. Health, service. Maybe we should invite Jeremy Hunt to come. Oh my God, maybe we should. To the table manners.

So we're doing table manners. He'd like, Newsnight. Ralph Little, definitely. Forget the food. Ralph Little has asked him, now,

maybe every day, to come and debate with him. Oh my God. We should so invite him. Why don't you just write to him? Maybe everyone will be disappointed when I'm like, but do you like a hot dog or a burger?

Yeah, but get, yeah. He could even be listening now. Who else have we got, darling? Paloma Faith. She's such a goddess. Also, you know, very interested to hear who you, the listeners, would like us to interview, and we'll try and go from there. Have you sorted out Sadiq yet, Jessie?

Well, I thought I'd sorted out Sadiq, and then he became a bit of a celeb. So, we're still trying. He told me he was coming on at your concert. I, we have it pretty much,

it was a verbal agreement. It was in the bag. This was back in September. So, we tried to get Sadiq on series one. He's been very busy, you know,

being a brilliant mayor of London. But, he did say he'd do it. We'll just see where we go. We'll see whether we can get him on by the end of the season. Because I want to talk to him about Uber. Uber?

Mm. Why do you want to talk to him? To make sure that it carries on. London. Okay, well, Sadiq, if you're listening, we love you. We still like you to be on this podcast. We forgive you for missing the first brilliant series of Table Manners. And we'd love to hear from you, Sadiq.

Sending love. So the guest for our first episode of season two is a person who is responsible for, I think, two of my best songs. He is very well known. He's very talented. He's the nicest guy. He is called Mr. Ed Sheeran and we are so excited to have stolen some of his time with him

and been able to have him to interview for Table Manners. Mum, you've met Ed before. Yeah, he liked cucumber. For Ed, what have we decided to cook, Mum? Well, this has been tricky because we've had to do it at the studio so it had to be something that would travel so i made a sausage casserole but i did buy the best sausages you could possibly buy and i kind of made up the recipe a bit i added a few bits which i think worked i think it was quite spicy. And Alex has made his triple threat.

Alex, my brother, if you're just tuning into this new series, Alex featured in the Clara Ampho episode, making a beautiful spotted dick. No sticky toffee pudding. Same thing. No, it isn't. Spotted dick's got raisins in it. That's why it's called spotted dick.

Why is it the dick part? Well, dick's nothing to do with it. That's why it's called spotted dick. Why is it the dick part? Well, dick's nothing to do with it. It's named after a man, Dick. Spotted dick. But it was sticky toffee pudding he made with toffee sauce. He's very good. He's very good. He's been away travelling soul-searching for four months.

But he's obediently come back. Thank God he's back. To be the pastry dessert chef. So he's given us triple threat chocolate brownies. Yeah. I'm excited. Let's go. Yeah.

We are here in St. John's Wood at Rack Studios. So yeah, we're not at mum's or mine, but it's because we've been working. We've got my dear friend to work on a Sunday, Mr. Ed Sheeran. thank you so much for being here. How you doing? I'm sorry that we're not at Mum's. You have been at Mum's before for a dinner.

Yeah. But I do, you know, we're in a communal kind of kitchen. It's called a recreation room. It's called a recreation room. There's billiards we can play and ping pong. Yeah, we've got the jukebox on. Now, this has kind of affected the menu for today. Mum, don't look so disgusted.

I think it's affected it a lot. No, it's just we've had to think. It's not your kitchen. It's been transported. I have to say, I really wanted to do your favourite dish, Carbono's... Oh, vodka rigatoni. Vodka rigatoni.

Yeah. You know, I actually have a T-shirt from there that they made me because I ordered six bowls of it and poured it all into one bowl. And then the waiter looked at me and he was like, you're not going to do that. And I was like, watch me.

And he kept coming back every sort of five minutes to check up on me. And then at the end of the meal, I finished and then ordered two slices of cheesecake. And he was like, respect. And then next time I went in,

they'd made me a T-shirt. What did the T-shirt say uh it was like a picture of me with the bowl and and it said i've completed the carbone challenge because which did you start the car i didn't start which restaurant is this italian restaurant in new york that benny our friend benny blanco introduced someone's beaten the challenge though they've eaten eight bowls shut up yeah six is pretty impressive and i'd had a curry about two hours before mate you need to go back there and reclaim your title. Yeah. He better not.

He'll die before he gets married. I'm telling you. But it is a good pasta. But I'm sorry. I also thought I wasn't going to do it justice. So instead, we have come to St. John's Wood with, well, actually, of course, as per usual, I didn't do anything. You can cook, though.

I can cook. Yeah, but your mum's just really good at cooking. No, she is good. I enjoyed the meal you made for me when I was at the house. I remember you eating a lot of cucumber. You said that's my favourite. I made a cucumber salad. Yeah, for me, cucumber with anything.

I think I had cucumber and ketchup ahead. I think I did. Cucumber and ketchup can make any meal great. Anything. You just stick it in. Really? Yeah. Well, today we have a... You sound like your daughter.

What, my daughter what? Cucumber and ketchup. Yeah, that's about right. Yeah, that's her diet. What have we got today, Mum? We've got a sausage casserole. Cool. Made with ginger pig sausages and some mashed potato,

which you probably can't eat. We'll let you have a little bit. And some salad. Why can't you? He's trying to watch his weight. Mum, so are we, but we decided to do a food podcast, didn't we? No. No, it's not.

I had an insurance thing for tour, and he just told me I had to drop a bit before tour. That's terrible. No, it dates back to when I broke both my arms. I think there's a lot of stipulations now in insurance. They're better. They're better, yeah. That's not because you've drunk bottles of wine.

Well, yeah, but I think he's like, for your heart, you have to calm down on the wine and fried food. Do you like fried food? I love fried food, yeah. I eat a lot of fried food. Why? What do you eat a lot of? Do you know what? i have a night where i'll get a baked camembert and bread and that'll be the starter and then the main my my friend dan makes this thing called tornadoes which is uh what is that was wagyu steak wagyu fillet and they put uh duck liver pate on it and

truffle yeah and then like gravy and then you have dauphinoise potatoes basically and then you drink that's a heart attack as much wine as you can fabulous and how's it going for you well then i went to the doctor he was like you can't do that stop doing that are your arms completely bad yeah they're fine they're healed now that was awful it was pretty bad someone knock you off your bike no no i don't know where that story came from. I was cycling to the pub with Cherry in Suffolk and I used a mate's bike that had like, he called them suicide brakes.

So they're basically like really strong brakes but I didn't know. Oh, so did you go right over? I went over, yeah, down the hill.

Oh shit. And then cycled to the pub because no one really believed that I was hurt. Cherry, did you not believe he was hurt? I fell on myself.

Oh my gosh. He's got to put himself together. I love you. Did you know they were broken straight away? No, because then I went to the pub and had fun and everything. But I woke up about 4 o'clock in the morning and was like, Cherry, we need to go to the hospital. And then I drove myself to the hospital.

And then when I got to the hospital, they were like, you can't drive back. So Cherry's now insured on a really nice car. Sorry, just to acknowledge Cherry, Ed's beautiful fiancé but also a fabulous woman is just here trying to work bless her, she's come along to something that Ed and I were recording here at Studios

and you've kindly come to kind of work, I say kind of, but we're going to try and work, I say, kind of, but we're going to try and give you brownies instead. Mum, what is for pudding? Your brother has... The boy is back in town. Thank God. Alex has made triple threat chocolate brownies.

Is that three different chocolates in it? Yeah. With white chocolate on the top. I mean, when have you had a munchie? The last time you had a munchie? Oh, the sweet? Yeah. I don't know.

Oh, munchies in there. Yeah, he's put... Do you know what? I had a dream aboutie? The last time you had a munchie? Oh, the sweet. Yeah. I don't know. Oh, munchies in there. Yeah, he's put. Do you know what? I had a dream about a lion bar last night. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I don't know why. How did it turn out for you? Lion bar.

They made a huge lion bar into a ice cream that you could eat. I love that this is what you were dreaming about after you went to see your doctor. Yeah. No wonder. Yeah, he said, I only have to do it until I'm on tour. And then you can go back to the fried food. Well, not, I mean, yeah.

So, hold on, when you say you like fried food, like apart from, what was it called? Torpedoes? Yeah. Tornadoes. Tornadoes.

Like, what do you love? Kebabs. Kebabs? What kind of kebab? Well, my, I've got it off a meme, but my motto is, why have abs

when you can have kebabs? Which I think isbab? Well, I got it off a meme, but my motto is, why have abs when you can have kebabs? Which I think is... Do you know what? I do like sheesh. I do like a healthy sheesh. Yeah, but a sheesh is a compromise. I love a filthy doner in a wrap. What makes it filthy?

Well, you know, there are some really nice kebab shops. Me and Cherry have one really near us that's basically like a gastro kebab, like really nicely done. But no, one really near us that's like you know basically like a gastro kebab like a really really nicely done but no it's more the spots yeah it's more the ones where yeah you kind of you know it's been sitting there for a while i know it's sweating i'm worried that when they reheat because it must have been eight days old but but but you don't ever get it sober it's more of a like yeah i, yeah. What was that story that I heard about a doner

that they found like flies or maggots in the middle, in the core? You're really putting me off it now. I still, eating loads of doners. Because they eat them and then they go cold. They eat them and then go cold. I think if you're going a bit busy, Donna, I prefer shawarma. Yeah, I love shawarma.

And gyros in Greece. But if I'm going junk food, it's probably going to be curry, though. What do you order on a curry? See, I always try and mix it up a little bit. I usually get a butter masala, but get them to put it in vindaloo sauce. So it's got spice, but a little bit of butter in it.

And then I'll get... I didn't even think to ask. So you switch it up? I'll do half and half as well if they do that. It's half chips, half rice. It's fucking amazing. I didn't even know about half and half. Did you know about half and half? That must be a Suffolk

thing. Yeah, you can say half and half and then they put chips and rice. You're from Manchester. You have chips and curry sauce, don't you? Yeah, we have curry sauce on our chips. It's not really curry sauce like... Is it bad? I know this is like a food podcast that we're not talking about

anything that is like refined palate. No. No, this is what I want to know. I want to understand the way you eat. Jessie, we'll ask you next what your family used to eat.

Did you all eat rum? Sorry, you ask it then, Jessie. No, please, you do it, Mum. It's your podcast too. You are the star of the show. We never had Sunday roasts. We always had tomato soup on a Sunday.

Weirdly enough. Why? I don't know. We just never had Sunday roast we always had tomato soup on a Sunday weirdly enough why? it was never I don't know we just never had Sunday roast so now like with Cherry's family do you have roast?

yeah we're in the tradition of having roast but hold on so on a Sunday would you be like oh yes it's tomato soup well no

because I was vegetarian until I was about 11 really? and my brother's still vegetarian it was actually my grandmother

who tricked me into not being vegetarian because she gave me a bacon sandwich and I said is this vegetarian she said yes and I had it and I was like oh that's still vegetarian. It was actually my grandmother who tricked me into not being vegetarian because she gave me a bacon sandwich and I said, is this a vegetarian? She said yes. And I had it and I was like, oh, that's wicked.

And then she was like, it's bacon. No wonder you love doner kebabs. Yeah. You're making up for lost time. Yeah, well, I just had a childhood of eating Linda McCartney sausages and corn. Are your parents both veggies? No, I don't know why. I don't know why I was veg.

I just brought up veggie. But I think that lots of kids, when they get to that age of like, when they understand, I remember I was a vegetarian for about a week, wasn't I? Because we liked pigs. I was like, oh, they're so cute.

I don't want to eat them. Even though we didn't eat pig. But I think you, I don't know. Was it because you liked animals a lot? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I do try, we do, me and Cherry do try and get stuff

that isn't like bad. You know, like stuff that's actually free range and because we i mean we come from the countryside so we know exactly where it comes from and the farmers that that do it so i think yeah i i think if you know morally where stuff's from it's easier you're from suffolk yeah so i know suffolk and old albra for excellent fish and chips really good fish and chips, yeah. Like, did you eat that a lot when you were... Yeah, that's actually, like, when I'm home,

I try and go there once a week. That's like... I love... Try and go there once a week. It's not like, I'm trying to go to the gym once a week. It's like, I try and go have fish and chips. No, yeah, and we go to... What will you order?

They do great beer in Suffolk as well. Oh, really? There's this really new... Not new. It's been there for a while, brewery called Elson Brewery and they do, it's just like local pub beer but it's just great. It's like thick, thick

chewy beer. Is that like an ale? Yeah, but like warm. Stout. Warm ale with no fizz. Love it. Warm ale? I'm not a beer person. I don't really get it. I don't understand it. I like Guinness it i think you forced yourself to do it because i remember like my dad drunk beers i was like oh it must be cool to drink beer and i hated it and then i just drunk it and drunk it and drunk it and drunk it and then one

day you go i quite quite like this same with red wine same with mushrooms never really like them quite like them now hummus can dig that now never like that when i was younger that's so funny i think you've had it just changes isn't it. Do you think if I keep on like ramming celeriac chips down my daughter's... I'll never like kale though. Why? I don't know. I just can't.

Me too. I can't deal with it. I hate it. And beetroot. Nah. Love beetroot. Maybe you haven't had beetroot correctly. No,

I've had like... Every form. Yeah. Like vinegar in... Yeah, all of that fried... Fried beetroot. Chips as well. You can have beetroot... Yeah, all of that fried. Fried beetroot. Chips as well.

You can have beetroot. Yeah, you don't like them? No. No, I don't. But I do like fried food. There's a brilliant fried chicken shop in East London called Clutch. It is good. It is good.

And you... I remember, like, Benny, Benny Blanco. So just to kind of explain ed and i met through benny blanco but we had lots of kind of mutual friends before that but we met through benny he's dear friend of ours um and benny i remember being like yo so have you heard about this place clutch and i was like yeah it's down the road like and but you're obsessed with it we go it's yeah cherry and i use it as a kind of chicken no you love fried chicken i love mom it is good they do like a chicken they do like a soy like they'll do all sorts of and we took a

vegan there the other day and they had what they would they have deep fried cauliflower or something that she was just she was bang into can i ask so back to tomato soup sundaes yeah what would you have it with would you have an entire loaf of bread to myself and was it homemade tomato soup sundaes yeah what would you have it with would you have an entire loaf of bread to myself and was it homemade tomato soup no it was Heinz and it would be Hovis best of both I rate your mum she's like that's what you're getting I love no no no she was it's what is your mum a good cook yeah yeah you know what she can do she can do certain things really good hostess no she can do certain meals really, really well. What can she do now?

But she's got a very, very... I got her a new oven because it was just ridiculous, but she had a talent of burning, completely charcoaling the bottom of a pizza, but having the top of it perfect. And I just don't know how that can happen in an oven. It would be inedible, but look perfect. So it's the oven's fault, obviously.

Has it carried on since you've got another new oven? No, yeah. I kind of dug myself a hole there because I was like, I will get you a new oven and then it's turned into a new kitchen and then an extension. I kind of dug myself a hole. And is your dad a good cook?

I actually bought my dad's cooking lessons for Christmas. Who did you go with? Just a local guy. Oh go with? Just a local guy Oh nice Just a local guy He was going to come and teach him how to do like gastropub food But he's always I hope they don't mind me talking about them

He's always loved cooking But he only really knows how to make a cottage pie So I've got him a cook to teach him how to do proper stuff I remember in your house you have In the kitchen you have grub Like I feel like you you had like a sign that says grub yeah so you like it sounds like you like what yeah grub it's like home-cooked you quite like kind of hearty food like yeah I like anything my nickname

is tood and there's teddy so anything and anything that really like fills you up so if I go to a pub I mean I can't anymore because I can after I've sort of like took care of myself for a little bit but i'll go and get um bangers and mash but then also probably fish and chips and then i'll put the chips in the mash and then boy after our own heart mom have it on the side and it will be like a triple dessert thing so you're the triple threat brownies i'll get like three dessert because desserts are usually quite small aren't they but do you share them no oh wow absolutely not oh interesting so i usually get three spoons i'd rather buy you a portion of chips than you take my chip it's kind of like god it's it's a weird we can't go out for dinner then but no we can no because i i am i like

to share yes and then i like to share aggressively so I eat all of somebody else's food. But I'll just get you exactly the same plate. No, Jessie, you don't share. Never share a meal with Jessie because she eats quicker than anybody else in the room. And she's finished it. I'm like disgusting with how quick... And now that I've got a kid, I eat even quicker. Like, it's disgusting.

Cherry's gone to do work. When we went away and we had this uh guy cooking like these really fancy meals but they're like quite small portions and it would be like one of the things that you'd savor but i'd just like scoop it up and have it in one i know yeah i know like tasting menus it's like it's a moment on your lips isn't it and it's like can i have a few more mouthfuls of that you went on a really big trip with cherry didn't you like you went traveling yeah did you eat amazing food on this we we ate the weirdest things yeah there was this one thing adventurous iceland what was it called black death

it's fucking horrible it was a rotten shark that they piss on and leaving the ground to rot a bit more and then you drink it with a shot why would you eat that because they said it was i i actually think they do it to take the piss out of the english because they say it's a local delicacy so you go um no what else i mean was it disgusting oh yeah it was really bad um but there was there's some other really great icelandic delicacies that we had um what we had great stuff in japan great stuff in ghana now they think they have a breakfast called wachi which is like spicy rice and egg. Really good. Why did you choose Ghana to go to?

Because I had a few IDGs, a musician I know, and I knew that he lived there. And he's always saying, come to Ghana. And then one time I just called his bluff and said, all right, we'll come. And then, yeah, we had a lot of fun. And like culturally, it's so vibrant there. The music's like so amazing. All the musicians are so amazing it's just you're kind of they invited us in and yeah it was really nice does cherry cook cherry cooks really well yeah really well but her her mum and dad cook really

well as well okay are they foodies well they will do an entire sunday roast every sunday and someone will do like the meat someone will do the vegetables, you know it's like Do you want me to put some food on? Yeah I wouldn't mind. Bless, I do have to explain so Ed's been doing me a favour so I've already had him working and like bless him he came and he was like I just want to have

some food, just a quick snack, I just want to have a little green bean, I don't think you've even got to eat your green bean. I did when I went to the toilet. Okay perfect but like a mum's trying to work is when it's not your kitchen it's difficult we're trying to work the microwave but yeah ed's also going out for dinner in about an hour so bless him he's gonna have to have like the smallest portion no no i'm all right i'm all right i've been i've been having starting having porridge for breakfast because they say it fills you up in the day but it does not fill me up at all.

What would be your last supper? Death row meal. I honestly think it would be fish and chips. It would be scampi and chips with a battered sausage. Oh, you do scampi and chips? Scampi and chips with a battered sausage.

Do you know what? The fish from fish and chips is just a bit too messy to eat. Like, it just goes everywhere. Yeah, it does. Whereas scampi is bite-sized, sausage is bite-sized. I find scampi quite, like, slimy. Fried scampi?

No. But I like the mushy peas. Do you have the mushy peas? Yeah, do you know what? I would have mushy peas in a pub, if it's a pub lunch, fish and chips, but I just don't see... But this Albra place, you'd just have the scampi and the battered...

Well, just because I'd eat it on the beach, and you need stuff that you can eat with your hands, and you can't really eat mushy peas with your hands. I guess you can dip, but... Okay, what's your pudding? My pudding? Oh, apple crumble or profiteroles, or both. Sam Smith said he'd have the whole of the fish and chip shop.

The whole of it. For his last meal. Basically, he was going to have all of it. Well, I would do that. Do you know what? I'm with him on that, but I think I'd have to have a starter of, like, a baked camembert. I know that's quite a weird...

No, why? Yeah, probably a baked camembert. With garlic infused? No, the little rosemary things, yeah. And then I'd finish with a cheese plate. Oh my God, you had double cheese? Yeah, and then drink wine in between. I've started knowing what wines are like now,

because usually I just drunk anything that was there. Well, I feel like we can talk about this wine that we had. So Ed and I were both doing Hootenanny, Jules Holland's Hootenanny, this year. And Ed, you got a very fabulous bottle on your rider. I think there was two. Fuck off, was there? We had two. Did we?

Oh, that's why I was so bloody hungover. So, can we tell the story where you found out about this amazing wine? I was doing a Global Citizen Festival in New York and I got invited back to this house I'd played with um me and Beyonce had done a duet and I went back to this house with loads of people and it was

owned by this very very very wealthy man and uh how long ago was that 2015 and they were all drinking this thing that they described as Jesus juice in these like really like huge glasses and um yeah i found out what it was and uh have started buying it so it's basically a very delicious rather expensive red wine yeah yeah it's like how much is it purple i don't know i think i've i've do you know vivino have you got that oh what the app yeah i need to get on that because loads of my friends use it do you use it no but the guy that i'm who got I talk with who gets the wine uses it. That's such a good idea on tour. On Vivino, you can find it for about 60 to 70 quid.

So with this wine app, I thought it was like people go, this is really delicious, has notes of vanilla and blackcurrant, and they just photograph the thing and then put it up. It's just knowing price ranges. It's either that or you get a Chateau Neerve to Pap from Tesco for like 15 quid. Okay. I mean, I don't think I've drunk enough Chateau Nerve to Pap, but I remember somebody cooked with it on Come Dine With Me once

and used it as their jus. And I thought that was a bit... Cooked with it? Yeah, and I thought that was a bit OTT. They didn't win. That is a bit OTT. I thought it was a little bit overzealous. But yeah, we got really pissed on this wine.

Good wine. Because you'd had a Nando's before, but I hadn't eaten. And it was a bit like a New Year's Eve party, but you had to leave and go and get a, what was it? What did I do? You went and got an OBE or something the day after? Oh, MBE. MBE, sorry.

I got an MBE the next day, so I had to behave myself. Two bottles of wine isn't really behaving itself. Did you meet the Queen? No, I've met the Queen, but I met Prince Charles that day. What was he like? The Queen was an interesting one, because when I met her... So my mum and dad have this picture of me shaking the Queen's hand, and she's, like, beaming, like, really smiling.

How old were you when you met the Queen? 20. So since you've been edged here in the pop star. Yeah, 21. But I just remember, because she didn't really have a clue who I was, 20, 20, 21. Since you've been Ed Sheeran the pop star. Yeah, 21. And, but like, I just remember because she didn't really have a clue

who I was, but like in the split second, I think like someone must have said something and she smiled and they have a picture. So she looks delighted to meet me.

But at the time it was like, oh, this is Ed, he does musing. She was like, oh, cool.

But yeah, but it looks like she's delighted. she was lovely. Yeah. I'm completely obsessed with her now because of the crown.

Oh, can I, can I have another sausage? Oh my God, I love this. Yes! Perfect. Mum, did you put chorizo in it? Yeah. So yeah. This is banging.

Look. That looks great, by the way. It's basically bangers and mash, but in cool sauce and good sausages. You know, it's not like Richmond sausages. No, it is not Richmond sausages. I do like Richmond sausages, though. How is this? It's really nice, man.

It's really good. Well, this is kind of home-cooked, grubby kind of food. This is exactly what I want. Does Cherry want some? She'll probably have some, yeah. Okay, good. Cherry has this weird ability, because she does sport as well as her finance job.

So her metabolism is mental. So she would... We'll go out for... I envy those metabolism people. We'll go out for a nice meal and get like a huge curry somewhere and then she'll come back and order a Domino's

and eat all of it. I hate her so much. The food is really good. Do you think it's worth the money for the sausages? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah.

Because they're the right size. You know, like, the usual sausage is like half the size of this. Alex said they were too big. But I thought they were the right size. You know, like, the usual sausage is like half the size of this. Alex said they were too big. But I thought they were the right size. You didn't want little chipolatas. I hate going and getting bangers and mash when they're about the size of your thing.

I went to a German Christmas market and they were doing sausages. And they were doing sausages about twice the size of this. But they had, like, a tiny little hot dog bun that they put them in. So it was, like, hanging out either way. That's what you want, right? I don't know. I kind of want a bun that fits all the sausage. Really?

The bun's the least exciting bit. They're the best hot dog I've ever had. And I hope it's still there. And no one does hot dogs like it. It's Ipswich Town Centre. There's a little hot dog stand of a guy. And it's probably not the best meat. It's probably not the best.

No, definitely won't be. But yeah, go on. Mate, they're so good. Why are they so good? I hope it's still not the best meat it's probably not the best no definitely won't be but yeah go on mate they're so good why are they so good i hope it's still there i don't know it's just americans boil their hot dogs in and they're like pink and this was like this was like a sausage like this that he kind of puts on the grill and then he grills up onions and then he puts it all in like like really really white cheap bread but like good white cheap bread and then you cover it in mustard and ketchup. I don't know.

I just love it. When was the last time you had one of those? The last time I went in Ipswich Town Centre, which would have been, do you know what? I learned to drive in Ipswich, but I never went, I haven't walked the high streets

since I was probably 18, maybe 19. Did you learn to drive quite recently? I learned to drive in 2015 because I thought this is ridiculous. I live in the countryside and I have to call my mum to give me a lift somewhere. And I just felt a bit weird about it. So yeah, I learned to drive. And I actually failed my first test because my mum rung my phone to ask whether I'd passed. And I picked it up while going round the roundabout.

I did, yeah. I was going round a roundabout and I picked it up and going round the roundabout. I did, yeah. I was going round a roundabout and I picked it up and I was like, mum, do my test now, sorry. And then after, as soon as I put it down, I was like,

oh, I shouldn't have done that. That's major, not a minor. Yeah. And the guy said I just instantly failed then. Would you have passed otherwise? I don't know. Probably not.

It's all about checking mirrors and stuff, isn't it? I mean, yeah. I thought wearing perfume... I'm going to have one more sausage. I'm sorry, I really like them. What did you call yourself? Triple...

Two dinners teddy. Two dinners teddy, but we're on three sausages. I love this. This is how we like our guests, Mum. We like them to go for seconds. When we offered Loyal Carnot chicken liver, he didn't go for seconds. He didn't even finish his first bit, so...

He didn't understand it, really. No, I think he did understand it. He understood that he didn't go for seconds. He didn't even finish his first bit. He didn't understand it really. No, I think he did understand it. He understood that he didn't like it, Mum. Do you know what? I've never been able to find kidneys or liver. I once had cow tongue in Japan and I just don't see the point in that. No, I don't really get the point of steak and kidney pie.

It's the flavour. This is really great, Mother. I really like it. Good. Really tasty. it's the flavour this is really great by the way I really like it good really tasty I fall in love with certain chefs is there any chef that you kind of could watch you love John Kerridge now I love John Kerridge now Jamie Oliver for me

yeah I love him just because it's not do you know I love I love fancy food I love Michelin star stuff but Jamie is just like, this is good. This is going to fill you up. I lived off 15-minute meals when I was a...

Well, I say student. I was never really a student, but I lived a student lifestyle. What did you make? Usually just pasta and stuff. Cheese. Who does Marmite pasta? Oh, I had Marmite chips the other day right oh yeah it's a place called um and they've taken it off the menu but if you go in with a marmite pot they well they did it for me but it's called a steak brought your own marmite uh no i just went

next door and bought one um it was in uh what's it called um god it's in tooting um meat meat shake and they did marmite chips but the guy said they never sold so they took them off the menu and i said well would you make them for me now i went and got a little pot of marmite and they made it but they basically just wrote cheering babe not because like i don't think they're gonna go and mum walks in she goes hi i've got food pockets will you do i don't think it's because it's you but i'll try my luck sod it yeah i might i might have another one love you Ed we're on to number four is that but no but this is this is this is why the doctor says I have health problems because

I eat too much I want to know just because I'm doing my rider for my tour coming up what do you have on your rider what's a really good thing to have on the rider uh I always thought it'd be quite it I haven't really done it but i thought it'd be quite cool to have a postcard especially if you've got yeah and then you send it home for your daughter to have yeah i've written so many and then just don't post them yeah i i it's it's a kind of thing that you want to do i used to put when i played uh like little club venues in england i used to put on the rider uh buy me your best your favorite film on dvd and then you just a massive kind of film collection but then everyone bought me the notebook so i've got like did you cry i did cry yeah everyone yeah um no my do you know

what the key to my rider is don't ask for anything at all like i'll have i'll maybe have like some beers if people come come in but i don't know what i want on the day like on on the day i might be like oh like i'm gonna smash it tonight so let me get loads of tequila in but if you have tequila every day then sometimes you don't use it or whatever so i usually i'll usually have somebody will go out and get it for you on the day then yeah you'll have a runner that or you'll be like i've kind of fancy this so i don't really have anything on the rider apart from one bottle of wine which we usually bring with us anyway and um yeah beers for people to drink and then on the day if i want to have a party i'll send a runner out and we'll get bottle of wine, which we usually bring with us anyway, and, yeah, beers for people to drink.

And then on the day, if I want to have a party, I'll send a runner out and we'll get a bunch of stuff. See, I've been trying to, like, think of things that are kid-friendly because I'm bringing my kid on tour. So I've, like, asked them for, like, recommendations, like, of local children's things. But, like, actually food-wise, I don't... I'm so bored of having dark chocolate and almonds. You'd better take the slow cooker

and just put those vegetables in. Actually, funny that you say that, because I met Iggy Azalea in Ibiza, and I don't know how we got to... Because I like to talk about food. We got talking about food. What were you both doing in Ibiza at the same time? I don't know.

That is so random. It was weird. It was a Radio 1 thing, I think. All right. You weren't just out there having it. I was asking her about food, obviously. She brings a slow cooker on tour, she said. She doesn't look like a slow cooker kind of I was asking her about food obviously. She brings a slow cooker on tour she said.

She doesn't look like a slow cooker kind of girl to me. Well she said she brings a slow cooker on tour. Is that the one with the hair that goes like that? Yeah.

Okay. I'm sure she does a lot more than just flick her hair though. She's got a lot of hit singles as well. You probably know her hit singles. No I don't. I'm so fancy.

Yeah I know that one. Mum we were watching The Voice last night. I'm gonna love you like a black widow baby. How is that? And you went, who is this? Yeah.

Do you know what the... We're talking about slow cooking and stuff. Having a foreman grill, that's my favourite. Oh, yeah. I put anything on that. Tom, would you take that on tour? No, because we have catering on tour. Oh, yeah.

Forget your megastar. Well, we also have... I get crisps. We also have like 100 people to cook for, so that's why we've got catering. How can you have so many people there when it's just little old you on the stage? Well, this is the thing. I mean, lots of people joke about this,

and they go, oh, you must clean up on tour, make so much money. It is an impressive stage and video screens, and there's lots of people that put that up. We have a lot of people doing the sound. There's a lot of people doing the pedal. It's not just walk on stage with a bit of plywood with strings on it and then play can i ask actually both of you whilst you're here cherry

what is your worst table manner this podcast is called table manners like your worst thing that you hate to see other people do cheering with their mouth open okay yeah or do you know what i just don't oh no i got it i got it i got it being rude to a waiter oh you can't stand it like because my my thing is like okay maybe the food's not great but like it's not his fault one it's not his fault two he will fucking do something to your food like just what just wait like i i have a i have Like, I have a friend that went on a first date with this girl, and he is a comedian, and he was kind of joking and kind of saying blah, blah, blah to the waiter, and the girl was like, he was just like, it just wasn't going down well.

And the food came back, and the girl said to her date, she said, don't eat that fish. Don't eat that fish. Don't eat it. And he's like, he won't have that fish. Don't eat that fish. Don't eat it. And he's like, he won't have done anything. It was a posh restaurant. I ate it. And then the next date was her taking him to a hospital

to have him checked out and he caught a disease that you can only catch from human feces. So the moral of the story is, be nice to people. That's what Annie Mack said. I think Annie Mack said exactly the same as you. Cherry, what's your worst table manner?

Oh, my God. Get here. Get here. What do I do? Wait, come and speak on the mic. What do I do? Ed has this, he obviously loves some foods, but some he really doesn't like.

And you do this thing where you get your plate of food and then you get all the things that you don't like and you just put it onto my plate. And then eat all your stuff. And then I'm left with this massive plate of food and then you get all the things that you don't like and you just put it onto my plate and then eat all your stuff. And then I'm left with like this massive plate of salad that I obviously don't eat and have to give it back to the waiter or whatever. And then it looks like I haven't eaten my food. Did you know this? I thought you liked salad.

No, because sometimes, Cherry, yesterday at dinner, you took one of my tomatoes and said, hey, I was going to eat that tomato. So usually when you go to take tomatoes, that's why I'll give you tomatoes. It's just the lift and the scrape. It is. Okay, well, now we're talking. Couples therapy with table manners. Yeah.

That's amazing. Well, now we're talking about... Well, now we're talking about what's Cherry's worst table uh she her eyes are too big for a stomach she will she will she will order like 15 things and then i'll have to finish it yeah yeah oh terrible i don't i don't have to i don't have to but yeah but like i mean after my three desserts if there's half a dessert there i'm not gonna let it go to waste. Oh, my God. Well, I know. See, I got brought up in a household where you had to finish everything on the plate.

I love that. Everything. But now I have that where, I mean, Cherry will say, where at dinner, where if there's stuff left over, I will just finish it. Right, Cherry? You can't leave them there. Yeah, I can't. So if people's chips are left left i'll have to eat the chips and if someone even if you don't know them that well oh what no no so it's like actually no

yeah no sometimes you go for dinner with people and if they haven't finished something i'll just where oh no i was with your mum the other day and she didn't she didn't touch her profiteroles and i was trying to be polite because i thought she might touch them and i just sat there for like 20 minutes being like, just ask her. Just ask her if she wants them. Just ask her. And then I just turned and I was like, Annie, do you want them? She was like, oh, no.

So I just devoured. That's all right. Mother-in-law, that's okay. You can have half of one if you only want to taste. I don't think he's three puddings Teddy. I also just had four sausages and I've got a dinner in an hour. Let's see how you do. I will.

So, Mum, what have we got now? This is triple threat chocolate brownies. You are very lucky that Alex... Oh, mate. Alex Ver is back in town. He's back from South America. I don't know what he's put in. What is the crunch?

The crunch is maybe the munchie. Oh, mate. Or a cookie. Could it be a cookie or a munchie? Do you guys want to try this? We're just really enjoying you enjoying it but I'm going to eat some.

I think, mate, I put food as like one of my, probably the greatest pleasure in my life. It makes me the happiest. I thought watches

were your favourite. I like watches but you can't. You like food over watches. Yeah, I would much rather eat that brownie than have a watch babe i'm proud of you i'm proud of you you did four sausages

you're having that that's still that's still pretty reserved for me shit he can come back mom pretty reserved do you know what what i love doing is getting a pizza from like you know like not like a great pizza but just like a regular pizza and getting a portion of like kebab shop chips and then putting them on the pizza and then rolling it up

like a wrap and eating it. That's pretty great. Chip butty. It's a pizza butty though. Oh my God. It's pretty great. You should try it.

I don't think I need to try it. You're a pig. I love it. I love it. You're a pig. I love it. I love it. You're a dirty eater. Yeah. Dirty. No, but we go to some refined restaurants.

Yeah, no, I love that. But I love how nothing's changed. We went to Gordon Ramsay's. Which one? The one. I don't know. Like, the one. It's called Gordon Ramsay.

Oh, okay. It's like a tiny room and you get loads of little... It's really good, yeah. It's really good. But I can go kebab shop or that, but either one fills me up, so I'm happy. I just... I mean, what are you going to be eating

now that you're trying to kind of be healthier? What will you... Because when you lost all that weight for Shape of You, I heard that you were just eating chicken. No, well, I just had a foreman grill, so I just have steak, cucumber, chicken, Nando sauce, cucumber. We should have had cucumber in this. Or you're going to get a shish kebab,

and then instead of getting one, you get two large ones, and you eat that with cucumber. Sounds like a good diet. So it's mostly protein. It's just protein. Yeah, but I can't not have chocolate, so I'll have to have, I like the Lindor balls. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

Did you get the big round thing for Christmas? Cherry bought me the big round thing. Yeah. I want to chose. They had them like... They looked like a big sweet. Yeah. Oh, my God.

No, I eat them a lot. Although I left the coconut one next to the fire. It doesn't taste good melted. No. Ed Sheeran, it's been a pleasure to cook for you. It's been a pleasure to spend for you it's been a pleasure to spend the day with you thank you so much

for taking time out thanks for coming it's kind of flown by yeah it's gone really quickly should we do should we do should we do a part two oh my god yes

and I'll cook for you oh okay season three starter sorted I'd like to Suffolk yeah well maybe we could do it in Suffolk oh mate yeah

I'll definitely I'll definitely cook for you and by cook for you I mean have someone else cook, and then I'll pretend. That's fine. No, no, I'll do it. Do you know what?

I'll make it. Ches, I'll make that good pasta. What's the good pasta? Do you know, I get some Lloyd Grossman's sauce, and I get some prawns. We've all done that, though. And then I cut up loads of vegetables, and I fry it all together.

And then I pour in probably a whole bottle of Tabasco and a whole bottle of Cholula and then and then some and then some Encona so it's just hot hot that's good it's good and then the key is once once once you boiled the pasta you pour it out and you put it back in the pan and then you put the sauce in with the pasta and then mix it up and then you grate cheese in it and just let the cheese like melt and stick it all together I mean that's gourmet right there. Thank you so much for being on it. Thank you.

Thanks, darling. I mean, I love that he didn't hold back. He didn't hold back. He didn't eat any potato. But those sausages were particularly good. I think he thinks if he doesn't hold back. He didn't hold back. He didn't eat any potato. But those sausages were particularly good. I think he thinks if he doesn't eat the potato, then it's going to actually just mean that the four sausages didn't mean anything. But you didn't really need potato.

I was going to get crusty bread, and you told me, no, do a garlic mash. That's what we need to get. Did you do a garlic mash? I couldn't taste the garlic. I'm not going to lie. Well, I'm sorry. I put loads of butter and garlic in.

Look, I'm just happy. Ed Sheeran is now on the leaderboard for the most amount of servings Four is quite impressive I don't know who's going to top that Unless we do tacos one night But he said to me I'm not going to eat much

Because I'm going out for dinner in a minute He said just give me a small amount That's like me and you So I gave him one sausage and I felt like a miserable bitch for giving him one sausage When he asked I love him though He's I felt like a miserable bitch for giving him one sausage. When he asked, I love him though.

He's got such an appetite. He's so sweet. He's a lovely boy. He's very open and honest. He's lovely. And kind of very bright as well. He's a mensch. Yeah. He's a mensch. He's a good boy.

He's just like giving me his Sunday. And it is the Grammys tonight. She's a hottie. That ring nearly knocked my eye out. It was beautiful. I have to say, this is just constructive criticism. Every week! What, you don't like that? No, I thought it was really good.

I thought that the sausages could have been fried a bit more so they could have had a bit of a harder skin. That is my only, only criticism. Do you know what I mean though, don't you? I'm rarely lost for words, but I am at the moment. You couldn't have fried them more because they were, it said only fry them for 12 minutes. I would have liked a little bit more of a texture. No, but they were thin-skinned anyway because they don't do them like much like you

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