Talking Simpsons - Talk To The Audience?!? - August 2024

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

We've reached the end of the month, which means it's once again time for another installment of our community podcast! Join us we discuss the incredible amount of Simpsons news from San Diego Comic-Con and D23, including updates about new Treehouse of Horror and Disney+ exclusive episodes, a new Christmas two-parter, and more. And, as always, we read and respond to your questions and comments from the most recent round of episodes. It's all happening on this month's Talk to the Audience, where we're taking podcasting to strange, new places!

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Excited to finally see a Venom parody seven years later, Henry Gilbert. And yes, welcome to Talk to the Audience. This is our community podcast. it launches at the end of the month on patreon in the beginning of the month on the free feed and on this podcast we cover what's happening in the simpsons world what's happening in our world and then we go over the questions and comments from the last round of episodes and we're doing this right after san diego comic-con ended and d23 ended and there was a lot of simpsons news so buckle in because we've got news about Treehouse of Horror and new episodes and exclusives and Disney Legends and all that fun stuff. It was a full month with no new episodes, yet there's so much news on upcoming episodes. And fortunately, comparatively to last month, not a lot of political news we have to react to either.

Yes. Stay tuned for the next couple. Talk to the audiences. I'm sure there'll be a lot to talk about there. Let's go over some of the bigger news first. So at San Diego Comic-Con, we had the announcement of some big Treehouse of Horror news. There will be two more Halloween episodes once again this year, including Treehouse 435, of course, which will have a Venom parody called Denim by the Robot Chicken folks. The second Trios of Horror episode will be a trilogy of stories inspired by Ray Bradbury. Yes, I'm aware of his

work. The Robot Chicken, guys, that's what at least interested me a little more than just, oh, it's a Venom parody, which again was a very long time ago was the first Venom movie, and they're finally doing it. But that they got, and Seth Green and the other guy, Matt Senreich, I want to say, they came on stage to present the puppet, and it is a pair of jeans takes over Homer as as a symbiote does on eddie brock in the

venom films i'm looking forward to seeing how that looks i always like how they play with mixed media i never really liked robot chicken because i felt like i had seen all of those jokes on the internet years before and then they were just on my tv so it wasn't that interesting to me but i like heather keeping stop motion alive they've really grown into something. I think some offshoot of Stupid Monkey, like they were the production house for the Guillermo del Toro Pinocchio film as well. Yeah, yeah. They've went on to very big things. Is Robot Chicken still a show? I sound like some old grampy. Are they still making those Robot Chick robot chickens i want to say they do yeah but it maybe it's one of those like they do a special every now and then or whatever like now the the newest one i probably saw was 10 years ago of like their uh their dc

superheroes one which i think i only watched because uh there's a they got away with like full frontal nudity in it so you can see like a comedy Lex Luthor's wiener if if you so choose. I'm looking at the old Wikipedia here and it looks like the last episode aired in 2022. I don't know if they're making more, but I'm sure like with many adults, some things that can always just come back. Yeah. Yeah. They just do. They do it whenever they feel like. But I mean, and that Seth Green, you know, it's still an honor for him to to present uh the stuff at the simpsons panel and uh which was hosted by kevin smith who had no extra reveal of like new involvement in the simpsons thank goodness i mean i guess uh a fine pick for a simpsons panel i just don't really associate Kevin Smith with the Simpsons too much he I mean

I guess he had his own animated sitcom for six episodes so there's something there he I mean he does appear in an episode but it's more I guess they're like oh he's Mr. Comic-Con Kevin Smith now like he he's stolen thanks to Stan Lee being dead he can now he's trying to be the new Stan Lee well he's gonna be here here in vancouver very soon for a screening of his new movie i saw a trailer i gotta say these aren't for me and i'm glad people enjoy them he i think i also saw they're about to do a re-release of the evening with kevin smith which is like the height of his spoken word performances i'd say yeah one of them was filmed at one of the schools i'd end up going

to kent state university he makes a kent state shooting joke in one of those dvs when he's performing there in between his jokes about what do you do if you suck a guy's dick in between well i remember like just a 20 minute bit about having sex with his wife for the first time oh man yeah that's right i remember that he's telling the story. I also, well, look, we could talk all about his sexual positions with his wife, but we'd be here all day. He's done enough. I've heard enough, frankly. I don't want to hear anymore. So yeah, Kevin Smith was there. Good for him. I'm a big fan of the man, but not his work anymore. And I hope he continues going on those cruises and showing up in Vancouver. Hey, he helped keep my great local theater, the Rio, alive. So I'll respect him forever for that. So moving on to other news,

we have Danny DeVito returning as Unky Herb. It took, let me think, 33 years, but it's finally happening. Unky Herb returns in season 36. It seems like it is a big deal that season premiere, the Bart's birthday one, or well well the setting is Bart's birthday Conan O'Brien's in it too but yeah it's not just that DeVito is back but as Unky Herb I wonder if like well this deals with a news bit later but I think him and James L Brooks have been friendly for a while so I don't know why he stopped being Unky Herb I think they

just got sick of Unky Herb or also Homer having a rich half-brother uh might be too crazy for the show perhaps I know when we covered the uh brother can you spare two dimes episode we recalled that he did not like doing that he didn't like coming back to do the voice so maybe that's why he always just stayed away like this is too it took too much time I don't know well who is this guy some rich guy i don't know although on the commentary they were talking about what a crappy script they thought it was and how they were just like killing time and uncle herb doesn't move back with in with them until like minute 14 in the episode oh yeah he is a late arrival in that one it's a fun episode but it's got some problems but yeah he is a late arrival in that one. It's a fun episode, but it's got some problems. But yeah, he is returning. Also, this got under my skin a bit. They played a clip of Kamala Harris quoting the either Kodos or Kang line from Treehouse of Horror 7. Which one was it? Twirling Towards Freedom? Yeah, it was the fake Bill Clinton whirling, twirling towards freedom. Yes.

And what was the context of that like an interviewer asking her to read a Simpsons clip or something I don't know what the actual context was yeah I believe it was when she was running just for uh either California Senate or district attorney that uh so many years ago over a decade ago and it was hosted on a radio station. So I think it was a radio DJ kind of like, oh, here, read this funny thing. We want to hear you read quotes. And she reads it like a person who doesn't remember it and didn't see the episode. I don't want to impugn like maybe Kamala Harris has seen all these Simpsons. I don't know.

But yeah, so when Harris was announced as the nominee and taking Biden's place. That appeared again on the feeds. And me and you knew it was old when we saw it. Like, it was not a new video she'd done. No, I was fine that they played it. I had no issue with that. I had an issue with everyone reporting that Kamala Harris was at D23 as a special guest of The Simpsons. I think someone just misheard what happened, and that is the word that's spread around. And if you took a minute to look into it, you realize like, oh no, they just played

an old clip of her because they're all very excited about her being the new nominee. Yeah, when reports were coming back from it, and there weren't videos posted immediately of its playing at the convention panel, but when the reports were coming out, and when I say reports, I don't mean like some nobody website. I mean Hollywood Reporter and Deadline. They treated it like it was a new video. And that led me to question like, okay, if they're reporting it's a new video, could somebody tell me if this is actually a new video? Or did they do what I figured? They just played the old thing and pretended like it was new, and the Hollywood Reporter guy didn't know this.

But yeah, it was, I think within an hour they updated, at least I remember Hollywood Reporter did update their news story to say, it's the old video. Yeah, there was a bit of confusion at the time, but now it's all been cleared up. So they're having fun with that. More announcements. We have D23 stuff uh they announced there's going to be four episodes only on disney plus this year starting with a christmas two-parter on december 17th with this the 35th anniversary of simpsons roasting on an open fire and michael price confirmed to henry on twitter that these were four episodes from production season 35 so i when he

told you this i looked into it and it feels like for the past 15, maybe even 20 years, The Simpsons, every season is basically half holdovers. We're in the era now on Talking Simpsons where there's maybe two or three holdovers, but now it's like half the season. And with the end of broadcast season 35, they only got through 12 production season 35 episodes. So I feel like they don't want to be this behind forever. So this is a chance for them to burn off four, get ahead four, and then give Disney Plus subscribers an incentive to stay subscribed or something to be excited about. That's my own take on this anyways yeah i think i do think too they had the delay thanks to you know the writer's strike that that stopped them from even if they had the completed animation they

can't do the updates they wanted to do so yeah there was there was a couple months where they didn't have new episodes at the first half of this year but yeah i i agree with you bob i think it is that they were left with so many leftover episodes that they maybe also they feared they'd be left in a place of like Fox won't renew them because they're like, well, you've got a whole season of leftovers right here. Or it might like fuck around with the renewal process, though. I also do think, you know, this is a test by Disney Plus to see like, OK, what will a brand new first run episode of The Simpsons be online? But yeah, when I tweeted out my reaction to Matt Selman announcing that at their D23 panel,

Michael Price unprompted, I always forget it as soon as he follows me. He's like, oh no, this is like the South Park thing. They're season 35. It's not a separate room of four production episodes. It's not season 36 production episodes. It's just season 35 episodes. So, yes, look forward to those on Disney+. And also on Disney+, something to not look forward to is a new shorts. Now, prove me wrong, shorts team. Prove me wrong.

I love David Silverman, but these have been kind of bad for the most part. We don't know what it's going to be promoting but they usually are promoting something so i don't know what could be in store for this but we know i think it's coming october 11th is the date i heard yeah it's uh i i get why again we always get why they do this though yeah your question i'm interested to know too like what is the thing they're promoting maybe they have to promote something because that's where the budget for these comes from is from the ad team i think so yeah do it yeah but and and yeah that uh and and of course season 35 will be hitting disney plus on october 2nd but that's if you one live in the united states because season 35 has been on your

disney plus this whole time And also if you don't have Hulu. Right, right. And you have the package that, how does that work in America? You get the package that envelops the Hulu shows into the Disney Plus platform. Yeah. Basically you pay a stupid amount once a month, which I do, to have Hulu, Disney Plus. It is cheaper than having Hulu and Disney Plus separate. That's why we do it. And we also get ESPN Plus, which we never use. But a few months ago, they now know that if you have the Hulu and Disney Plus, they just put all your Hulu things on Disney Plus. So, like, that's where I watch King of the Hill streaming now and New Futurama is for work. And it is insane to see an anime tab on Disneyney plus thanks to hulu hey the disney plus service

is great up here thanks to the star network i don't know what that is but it's because of that that i can watch uh futurama king of the hill all the other stuff all the hulu stuff basically and i i really hope that on the disney plus short the ha one, I hope David Silverman could employ some great animators to do at least some really cool cuts among advertising another Hocus Pocus movie or some sort of album by another Disney musician. Look, Marge, it's Moon Knight season two. I love Moon Knight.

If Al Jean is still on his ball, when he learned that Nancy Cartwright is related to Sabrina Carpenter, he needs to get Sabrina Carpenter on the show yesterday. Like, he needs that now. What a get. And it should be an easy get, in my opinion. Unless she wants a lot of money, which she probably might. She just might. She's dating Barry Keegan or Keogan. Did you know this, Bob?

I think it's Keegan. I'm pretty sure. I don't know who he is. I know he was he in Salt Burn. He is the burning of salt, man. Yeah. OK, yeah. Well, don't you don't you remember him as Droog in Eternals, Bob? Droog, Droog. I've drawn a blank here and it's my favorite movie so i feel bad so moving on we have the induction of new disney legends legends legends including some simpsons associated folks like james l brooks uh harrison ford frank oz these are not simpsons related i don't think harrison ford would touch this show with a 10-foot clown pole but uh he was inducted by danny devito and there was a new clip

of the simpsons where they walk out of the hedge and there's some actually good animation involved that looks uh better than the show i don't know who did this i don't know if it was a different team but it didn't look quite as puppety as the style i've been used to for the past only almost 20 years or 15 years i think i just based on you know seeing the clip i would say that it looked like Silverman and his team pulled it together for them. My other guess on why it would be Silverman is because months ago, when the BART doesn't get strangled anymore, non-controversy happened, James L. Brooks was one of the people to say, he'll be strangling him forever.'re never going to stop that and silverman drew a strangling a new strangle drawing as well that it feels like since the that clip ends with a

strangling for brooks that feels like silverman winking at his fellow strangling fan uh james l brooks it's a fun little clip that you can only see at d23 but somebody you know recorded it with their phone it's on youtube so check that out and lg oh go ahead well now the d23 thing i did want to say the legends thing it was like so it was kind of nice to see these many people honored and they even did honor one animator mark hen from the uh the disney renaissance era it was really nice to see that and also somebody who's worked a long time at the Disney parks, like a longtime parks employee, and Angela Bassett as well.

And Jamie Lee Curtis was inducted by Jodie Foster, who seemed like she was having a good time. But yeah, the Danny DeVito thing was fun because Danny DeVito is a chaotic guy who can only be held under wraps so much though everybody thanked Bob Iger just so much they were like you know what we got a great captain this ship Bob Iger thank you sir you're a great man they have to kiss the ring I guess if they want that uh plaque medal trophy whatever they get for this I think it is a reward i think so and then james l brooks though his was

funny because he said one of his jokes was i'm not you know if you see how nervous i am up here it's because i don't do public speaking all that much and thankfully disney only gave me 90 seconds to speak so that made this easy uh and two other notes i want to say on it was strange was, uh, one, they had Steve Ditko posthumously win an award and it is, uh, and I say this as a Spider-Man freak. I, I both loved and hated it because it only had Steve Ditko never would have wanted this award ever. Cause he was a crazy shut in, but you got, you got to respect him for it. He never wanted this, but his brother and nephew, they took over his estate because he was seemingly a bachelor his entire life. The people who took over his estate, they made the deal with Disney and did it. And it just feels like them repairing a bridge that Steve Ditko never wanted done in life. So it kind of bugged me.

And the Frank Ozz one i would say look that one up if you love frank oz he's so close to tears in it and it's it's very sweet though also i swear at the end it sounds like he's about to come out of the closet it's really weird like it's uh well he basically just goes you know i've been scared my i i i grew up scared i scared my whole life don't be scared to be yourself kids and i was like okay but then but then they keep shooting back uh the shots to his loving wife looking on at him and it's his second wife he married her in like the last 10 years and so i'm not saying frank oz is gay but it was just strange it was really weird it sounded like how somebody comes out of the closet during an award speech which i'm on frank oz gay watch i'm talking simpsons i'm putting him on it

well also because it did then afterwards i was like oh yeah wait a minute in and out he directed in and out about a closeted guy who gets outed in an award speech like he's that was one of his films but but i believe his parents did flee Nazi Germany. So maybe that was the fear he could have been talking about. Oh, he did talk about that. That actually like, OK, he loses his place and starts to cry on stage. But yeah, I just. But yeah, look, I don't know.

I don't know, Frank. But I'm just saying it was very it was very strange to see it. I don't know where he was going with it because he kind of just trails off at the end. But anyway, yeah. So the Disney legends thing, if you'd like seeing speeches from people who deserve to be honored, the Mark Ken one is really nice too.

And he's, he's inducted. Oh, last thing about that. He's inducted by the five women who played Disney princesses. He animated. So the voices for Ariel, Mulan, Tiana,

Jasmine, and, ah, man, I'm losing. losing i forget the fourth one the fifth one there but it was those four definitely were up there yeah so in other simpsons news al jean teased a an upcoming episode it's going to be a white lotus parody and apparently it's going to be a sideshow bob episode as well i know henry's probably happy because he's a white lotus fan although i have never seen him order one apparel spritz in front of me and i'm waiting for that day when i see henry gilbert sipping on a spritz i can tell you as henry's friend his go-to bar drinks are a screwdriver or a white russian and i have not seen any other orders take place that may be some cocktails here and there but i want to see henry order an apparel spritz in front of me it's got to happen well you know

that i i'm more of an orderer of that at like early, like a brunch thing. It's more of like a sun is out kind of drink for me, but I've done it. I've just did it when we went to the Earl's around here. That's, you know, a snazzy sit down dining place that I've gotten the Spritz there, but no, I haven't really done it at a bar. I guess I think of it more as like a restaurant thing than a bar thing, even though I'm sure I could get an Aperol Spritz easily at a bar. Here's the thing. At the restaurant, they're making your drink at the bar. Right.

Oh, you're right. The bar is in the restaurant. Repeat. The bar is coming from inside the restaurant. Okay. That was, well, because I just went to a few bars a couple weekends ago and I did not think to order an Aperol Spritz. They'll make it for you.

They'll gladly make it for you and I'm sure it's very popular now. But yeah, I'm looking, I hope that that is a good White Lotus parody and White Lotus season three can't come soon enough, I tells you. And the end of this month of August marks 10 years

since the Every simpsons episode ever marathon on fxx to mark the simpsons being available on cable and the simpsons world app so a landmark uh moment in simpsons history in terms of people watching it and i want to say uh this probably led to the creation of talking simpsons i i don't i don't think we i could explicitly say it's this exactly but it got everyone online to start remembering the Simpsons all at once. And I think maybe that is what gave us the push to finally do a podcast, just to see everyone wants to hear about the episodes and talk about them and share memes. This is pretty Frankie-act too. This is like two years before years before frankiac you had to source your own gifts people yeah i i i think you're right on that bob the timing of it it makes so much sense that we started it within a year after and uh we you know me and you had been talking about for the longest time and we we were both fans of go bayside and and so many and a couple other episode deconstruction things, but that was a magical time on Twitter, not just of everybody, like regular folks,

including us going, oh, this episode's on now. I remember when blah, blah, blah. It was sharing those memories. And then also I saw folks like John Vitti join Twitter and Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein, who were just getting started on Twitter, they were live tweeting the episodes they remembered with all of these memories ready to share. I think it told us all like, oh yeah, we could ask Simpsons legends or

at the very least source Simpsons legends tweeting these things on a podcast for background history. I think we have sourced some of those tweets from this time period when they were live tweeting about their episodes they wrote. And it's been like a whole decade, which is just, you know, time flies. But yeah, and now that era is dead. Like now Simpsons is Disney Plus forever. Well, nothing's forever, but it's Disney Plus is even bigger of a Simpsons impact than having to. Sorry, only Disney things are forever.

Once Disney buys it, there's nothing. There's nowhere to go. Nothing is acquiring Disney. So it's it. Kaput. But it's so much easier than now with Disney Plus compared to I remember to use the Simpsons World app, you had to have a frigging cable subscription that then fit with FXX in your package, which I did not. I was a cord cutter then. So I had to get my parents' password to get on the Simpsons World app. And then on top of that,

we were all moaning of like, God damn, this is not the right aspect ratio. Well, we're in year 10 of talking simpsons our 10th anniversary is coming up uh in june of 2025 and the early years of our podcast are full of us complaining about the simpsons world app and how bad it is and how when you want to watch an episode with commentary you have to restart the episode and watch a new ad yeah oh oh god i hate the app thank you for reminding me of those ads though oppositely you actually got the freaking commentaries on the Simpsons World app as opposed to Disney Plus

and we've talked about this before but to remind everyone they were recording new commentaries for episodes that never made it to DVD for this app and we don't know where the commentaries are or where they will go and Algin is being cagey about it because I think he doesn't know either.

So I hope we, those surface somewhere, even if someone has to like, just let them free into the dark web, let's let them scamper. So somebody needs to break into Gracie films and drop it online. Yeah. Or Hey,

if somebody, if a Simpsons producer wants to upload it to one of our Google drives, you know, we'll, we'll keep, we'll, we'll keep it mum and not say who did it. We'll stay silent. We won't name our sources. We're journalists. We're journalists. You mentioned San Diego Comic-Con earlier. The month before the Every Simpsons Ever marathon, they were advertising it everywhere at Comic-Con.

It was gigantic ads for Simpsons. They spent so much money on it. It was what got people to sign up for FXX, the second channel to FX, which was going to be the home of all the comedies. And also it helped that like Simpsons, well, thanks to honestly something that should be illegal, Fox had all the rights to Simpsons syndication. You only could syndicate Simpsons on Fox and they were self-dealing, which was quite evil. And then they do this next level of self-dealing of, oh yeah, we're only selling the cable rights to ourselves

for a billion something dollars or whatever, but we just paid a billion dollars from one part of our company to another part of our company you know i'm looking up fxx now what is on the station and i mean we don't have cable so maybe this is not a surprise to you folks out there but it's all futurama cleveland show bobsburgers simpsons family guy just over and over like long marathons of all those shows so it's just fox animated late night sitcoms forever on fxx and why even with regular fx everything they have there is just a hulu show it basically is like oh it'll this hulu show plays on fx as well if you

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So that is it for Simpsons News. Now let's talk about our news. So number one, I will say clear your schedule for early October because we have another live show coming very soon. More information will follow on that in a few weeks. But I will say, possibly related, I am going to be at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo at the end of September. That has already gone live, that announcement. So perhaps the two things are related. I don't know if you could put those together in any way, but we'll let you know in a few weeks what's going on there.

It's going to be very exciting. And yeah, stay tuned for that. At the very least, listeners, you can know you will see Bob in Portland at the end of September. Portland. I hope you see me there. Portland. The state, Oregon.

We can't give you any more information. So continuing on here, our schedule. So for What a Cartoon, our What a Cartoon episode for September is all about Batman Caped Crusader, the new Amazon Prime spiritual successor to Batman the animated series. And the episode we're covering is The Killer Inside Me, the first of the Two-Face two-parter, episode nine of that. We're very excited to talk about that show. In fact, we're recording that episode right after talk to the audience. I think it could be the fastest turnaround of a show airing to a What a Cartoon being produced. Perhaps Disenchantment was faster, but I think this is more in demand. Yes, yeah.

Like most things, people have forgotten Disenchantment. They compared it to when we cover a cartoon that's almost 40 years old, like Inhumanoids or Ninja Turtles. Now we're covering something that is not even four weeks old. It's hot off the presses. Has not been delisted yet. You can still watch it. I think it's in good hands and in good shape.

So, yes, at the beginning of September, look forward to our episode about the new Batman series. It's our spiritual successor to Batman. Let's call it that. Why hey i like that and for five dollar and up patrons at patreon.com slash talking simpsons we have our regular episodes of talking futurama and talking of the hill talking futurama will be all about the episode proposition infinity it was the 2010 take on marriage equality very much based on the prop 8 ruling in california of course this episode quickly became dated like two months later but it was very much what was the conversation about gay marriage at the time and how was that filtered through the fun futurama characters and we really break down

the events of the real life that inspired this episode it was both fun and upsetting to be taken back to the LGBTQ debates of 15 years, almost 16 years ago when we talk about that episode. I had a lot of personal memories from voting on the Proposition 8 and living through the ads they parody in that episode. So that's a lot of fun. And then on Talking of the Hill, we have Wings of the Dope. It is the return of Buckley, although he is dead. So it's Buckley's Angel. It's a very touching episode, a Luann-focused episode, and we are coming close to the end of the very long season three.

I think there were 25 episodes in season three of King of the Hill. And it's like a season-long arc of her dealing with the death of buckley and it it finally closes the door on that as as they're getting near the end of the end of season three which will set up a whole season four arc well it's more like a five episode arc tops but they do it it's still an arc and yeah so that's happening at patreon.com talking simpsons and i mentioned cape crusader just we have, I think, 20 episodes of our Batman The Animated Series podcast behind that paywall as well. So if you like us talking about Caped Crusader, you want to hear us talking about the old series, we have a ton of chat about that on the Patreon. So check it out there.

And then at the $10 level, we have our regular What a Cartoon Movie episode covering a movie that's animated, fittingly. And this month's episode is going to be all about Bee Movie because we've covered things that we have to say are good. Let's get into something that we know is bad, and that's Bee Movie. And I think what inspired this is that we're talking a lot about Jerry Seinfeld losing touch with reality lately. And this is one of the earliest examples of uh I thought it was funny but it turns out he makes something like B-movie it I think Unfrosted coming out this year made people question him in all over again because maybe the folks who had respect for him because of Seinfeld then missed the B-movie missed B-mo movie because it's a kid's movie. I don't need to watch that.

Maybe he did a good job. Maybe he didn't. But then they see Unfrosted and they're like, oh, this is a horrifically bad movie that only podcasters watch to make fun of. Yeah, it's one of those movies that just feeds the podcast industrial complex. It's not meant for actual consumption. It's just meant for podcasters to talk about. Sort of like that Jon Stewart movie that came out during COVID, Irresistible with Steve Carell. Only made for podcasters to talk about sort of like that john stewart movie that came out during covet irresistible with steve carell yeah only made for podcasters i one of my

favorite notes i heard about unfrosted was from our pals on michael and us because they said that it's lit so poorly that it's the only time you get to see how old celebrities really are because it makes them all look as old as possible. Unfrosted, more like unflattering, everybody. So, yeah, I'm not watching that movie for this podcast, but I'll watch Bee Movie. But again, that's happening at What a Cartoon Movie on What a Cartoon Movie at the $10 level. And we are nearing, I think, six complete years of What a Cartoon Movie. So that's a lot of movie chatter. We just finished covering

every movie in the disney renaissance so if you want to hear us talk about that there's i would think like nine eight podcasts about that in the back catalog of patreon.com talking simpsons so that is it for our schedule let's talk about what we've been playing and watching that's not related to our podcast so i've had some fun game time in the past month or so playing some adventure games. I finally replayed Apollo Justice Ace Attorney for the first time since it came out on the DS. I'm a big fan of the new remastered trilogy that Capcom put out, which is Apollo Justice

and then Phoenix Wright 5 and 6, basically all in one package. It's dressed up very nicely. It's much better than the original trilogy re-release and this is a game that was disliked at the time for swapping in a new character and it makes some other mistakes but i think it's been re-evaluated and i did really enjoy it this time although the problem is the main character is the second banana in his own game and then the game establishes a bunch of stuff that they never build off of because they realize, like, well, nobody wants to know more about this guy. Let's just go back to Phoenix.

So it feels like much ado about nothing and the first act of two acts that will never follow. But I love mystery games and they are good mysteries. And I really recommend this collection if you like Phoenix Wright. And there's a new Phoenix Wright collection coming out in September. It's the Miles Edgeworth game. So they're more like point-and-click adventure, but it still has the mystery-solving aspect as well. So thank you, Capcom, for remaking these.

Now you must make a new Phoenix Wright game because you're out of things to remake. It's over. You must make a new game now. I'm sorry. I would have to guess they have been re-released so many times because they sell well. So if they're selling that well, then you would think that they can afford,

that they would want to invest in a brand new one then. They have to go through the cycle of re-releasing every game and then making one new one and then re-releasing every game again and then making one new one. I think we're due. I also played Bowser's Fury, a game that came out I think in 2021. It's the extra content on the Super Mario 3D World Switch release I thought it was pretty good people really talked this game up so I was expecting a lot more but it was just a digestible little 3D Mario adventure with a fun gimmick it's one of those things where when you finish the game it reveals there's another half

of it left and I was frankly kind of done with it the gimmick is pretty neat but though it is something i got a little tired of because in case you haven't played it the gimmick is you're doing 3d mario platforming but every five minutes or so a giant bowser appears and the levels change he shoots fireballs at you you either have to wait that out or collect the shine sprite or whatever the collectible is in the game to make him go away. And sometimes that was cool, but often it got annoying. And after I finished the game, I wish there was a way to kind of switch that on and off at will. Because it's like, well, I want Bowser to appear now, but I got a lot of time. So I just kind of have to float here in the water and wait for him to show up so he can blast these blocks out of the way.

There is an inherent flaw in the system they're using, but it is, for bonus content, it's very substantial, and I had a lot of fun, and now I know there's, like, three or four hours of an original Mario 3D game I can play if I ever get bored. Well, and it's a super, I really loved, now I'm, you're just taking me back to lockdown because I was, we were deep in lockdown when I played it,

and the, i loved the persistent world of it like i love that it's just no it's one zone and there's different areas in it but you just run from each to the other to to do the levels yeah i like the the one contiguous world that's cool and i hope it's an idea that they build off with whenever they announce uh whatever the next big mario 3d game is So yeah, cool. Not as good as I wanted it to be, but it did keep me satisfied. It's a nice digestible game. And speaking of nice digestible games, I also played a little indie game called Thank Goodness You're Here. It is a very, very, very British game. Incredibly British. And a lot of things went over my head, but when

I'm hearing all the language they're using and the references, I think, oh, I only know this because I watch a lot of British TV or I read a lot of British books. So I don't know how lost other people will be, but you basically, you play a tiny yellow man in a working class UK town and it's essentially you're there to help solve people's problems but you can't talk all you can do is shove things around and punch and you're basically shunted from one wario ware style scenario to the next as you're helping people throughout the world and frankly making the world worse every time you go back through certain areas um there's no fail states so it's just kind of like a game about it's like a gag delivery system in the form of a game and in that respect it works really good it is like a very fun two and a half hour game with like a lot of fun animation a lot of fun goofs but if you want an actual real game it's not that but yeah it's called thank goodness you're here and it is so

british oh wow that's that's cool i you i can always count on that you've played something i've never heard of before in the indie spirit. You're really good at finding the smaller things to give a try to instead of just the biggest game each month. Yeah, it looked like lots of fun, and I was drawn to the fun cartoony style. So yeah, please check that out. In terms of watching movies, I watched a lot. So I think from now on, I'm just going to select three movies to highlight for these Talk to the Audience podcasts. So the first movie i want to recommend that i watch is called i wake up screaming it is the film noir movie with the

best title ever the movie cannot possibly live up to this title in fact i bought the book because the title was so cool and i thought it was pretty good i was like oh there's a um there's a movie version of it from the 40s it's not streaming anywhere it's not on disc anywhere you have to download from internet archive but it's one of those b-list noir movies where you've never heard of it but the second you turn it on your your eyes are met with some of the best black and white cinematography you've ever seen in your life and this movie is full of so many noir.jpg shots like if you are looking for what does film noir look like this is something you should go to and i and i love finding these because i've seen all the big film noir movies and now i'm just kind of bored with them so now i go to film noir festivals and there's one in uh in vancouver

this month actually i've been to a few of the screenings there it's just fun to see something you've never heard of and just see what they're doing with the form with no money for these movies that uh barely anyone saw so yeah i, I recommend, check it out. I Wake Up Screaming. And it's just fun to add a movie called I Wake Up Screaming into your letterbox queue. And by the way, no one in the movie actually wakes up screaming. So I knocked off one star for that.

I saw you also watched X-Men Ripoff T-Men. Yes, the T-Men has nothing to, by the way, they're not trans men. So if you're going into that for that reason, it's not a trans story at all. It's about agents from the Treasury Department, and that movie was incredibly dull. It actually reminded me of Radar Secret Service, the mystery science

theater movie, where it's a bunch of gray men in gray suits doing gray things, and I don't like police procedurals from this era they just run too much of dragnet it's it's like watching paint dry but it was kind of fun i guess i would not recommend team and that's another one you have to probably pirate or download from somewhere and i also watched perfect blue for the first time and i thought it was pretty good i think

it's something we might cover in the future because there's only four satoshi kon movies and we've covered two of them so we've knocked out half of them I did really like it it's a great first movie and I don't want to spoil anything but boy that twist at the end I thought it was bad I thought it was bad and I thought did I miss something was this established and my wife told me

no I've seen this three times and they don't really set this up very well and I thought oh this is the kind of twist you're making fun of in the movie but the woman in the movie is playing these roles and like silly detective shows but then they actually do a twist that bad and it felt like there was no ending so they had to pull like the 90s fucked up twist switch in the movie you know I'm gonna have to uh when we do it i i am gonna there is a there is a new translation in in english of the original book that he is adapting though yeah he changed so much of it i heard that it's like hardly even comparable but i wonder if he was like stuck with the ending they had in that but

uh i'm yeah i didn't see if uh i saw it when it was new and then i didn't see it for many years uh until the the theatrical re-releases they've been doing the last few years and when i saw it it was interesting because the film is about making you uncomfortable it is a sort of about the film and the audience and how an audience interacts with films and like it was for me seeing it in a crowded theater there are parts that you're like kind of nervous about. You get an extra level of tension watching it because of uncomfortable stuff that is in the film. Yeah, I'm just curious as to what the source material was and if he was forced to stick to it. Because it does feel, to be fair to the director, this kind of a twist that like a crazy twist at the end was very

much of the time i'm thinking of movies like dark city and the matrix and the sixth sense and uh fight club and things like that it was all there were so many movies of this era where it was a big twist at the end that recontextualizes everything but in this case i was like oh this this is what was supposed to be happening the entire time uh all right I was having fun and I don't but I don't like this part if I can recall from our millennium actress research uh for our podcast on that when I did the research on it the um that it was like an OVA budget stretched into a theatrically released film but it also couldn't be over 70 minutes and so it sounded like he definitely sounded like he had a rough time with that production

that he couldn't say no to because it was his first opportunity to direct himself, like in the lead director position. But, you know, I'd be up for it. I think in the past I feared doing it because it is, there's some sexual violence stuff in it that probably makes people uncomfortable. But I do love that film. I just bought a new Mima figure, actually. Yeah, I saw you showing that off, and that was right around the time I saw it in a theater, like right before.

So it was a fun coincidence. But I think I trust us enough to be tactful about covering things like that, and I think our audience trusts us, too, for sure. I think so, yeah. And the third movie I'll mention is i saw the original godzilla from 1954 at the heights theater outside of minneapolis it's a tiny old movie house from i think the 20s i love going to old movie houses and old movie palaces so just going there period was fun enough for me and i was taking pictures of the inside and the outside and of course it's one of those movie houses where before the movie starts an organ comes out of the ground and an old man plays it and then it goes back into the ground i i missed

that from our time at the castro i know we saw a lot of castro shows where that very thing happened i missed the old organ man now that looked that looked beautiful like to see i've i've never seen godzilla in a theater that the original 1954 one, which, yeah, that sounds like an incredible experience. And then I think this also led you to watch the Raymond Burr version as well. Yeah, because we were just fucking around one night on the TV and the Pluto, one of the, not Pluto, one of the Shout Factory channels on YouTube.

Shout Factory is doing a lot of 24-hour streaming channels of like Alf and Portuguese and Elvira and things like that, and Pee Wee's Playhouse. So check out Shout Factory's doing a lot of 24 hour streaming channels Of like Alf and Portuguese And Elvira and things like that And Pee Wee's Playhouse So check out Shout Factory's YouTube channel But one of them was just all Godzilla movies running Non-stop on YouTube We turned it on and it was the Raymond Burr Godzilla And if you've seen the original Godzilla

You think how could anyone ever like This version But that's the version everyone saw forever Until I think fairly recently in history but my wife summed it up best it's basically like the kingdom hearts version of godzilla where raymond burr is sora donald and goofy where he's if you're not paying attention he's just off screen while everything is happening and he's like oh and everyone in the movie is actually my best friend but uh when i talk to them you only see the back of their heads i i guess that shows you

how powerful godzilla's original footage is that even with terrible storytelling to get a what shove a white guy into the story it still blew people's minds americans minds in in 55 it's just incredible to see how much they chopped it up and it still made sense uh it just yeah but i recommend obviously seeing the original godzilla i could not even give it a score because how do you score something like that but it was a fun experience with a crowd of people uh a lot of them probably seeing it for the first time too as far as tv i am now the world's biggest upload fan by the way we have to point this out every time upload is one of greg daniel's shows that no one ever talks about it has three seasons on Prime, and there is a fourth and final one coming. So I finished all three seasons of Upload. And I'm going to say it's still a very good B-minus show. If you're interested in seeing what Greg Daniels has to say about the world of tech, it is smart and funny. It does feel like it's got the kind of cheap the premise entirely so it just is like more a

conversation about different ideas and tech than the original premise of the show which is fine but yeah i mean if you have to stand on an elliptical machine for an hour a day check out upload it'll it'll keep you focused on a moving image uh and i also saw i finished sandland uh i was like I had COVID for a while so I had to drop off my streaming shows because I wasn't going to the gym but then I picked it back up the back half of Sandland is not as good it's original material that

was overseen by Akira Toriyama it's not from a manga but it's 12 episodes it really shows you again I mentioned this before it shows you how good Japan is getting at using CGI to fake 2d animation uh and i really want western studios to take note of what they're doing because i'm seeing them fail in a lot of ways that japan is succeeding i don't know how they're doing it but it's a great looking show

so check that out and i use some gym time to finally watch uh pluto it's not my favorite urasawa thing uh but i like how pure it is it is a pure adaptation to the point where i don't think it works as a show this feels like it's meant to be read and i really feel like it was edited more because uh it doesn't feel like it works that well but i do like how good it looks how on model it looks and it is fun to see that story told through animation as opposed to reading it uh via manga it's not my favorite urasawa thing but i'm just happy this made it to netflix and maybe it can encourage other works to make it to netflix done as well as this was done i wonder if they could ever do 20th century boys which that

i think that's my favorite urasawa thing if they could do it in this style of like panel for panel the same thing the 20th century boys has so much if they're going to do it in this style of like panel for panel, the same thing. The 20th Century Boys has so much. If they're going to do it right, they have to license like probably millions of dollars of music to put it in. Yeah, yeah. And I think they made like three live action movies in Japan to do the whole manga. And I'm sure they cut a ton of that out too. A friend watched it and told me that like, well, they at least got the song 20th Century Boys by T-Rex to play over the credits.

So they spent the money on that. But yeah, Pluto, I did really like Pluto as an adaptation. I thought it had very good animation and it kept the feel of it. But I mean, I think it's a perfect comic. So I would tell people you can just read the comic and get the purest experience yeah it's only i think like seven seven or eight books it's it goes by pretty fast yeah it's not a huge investment so yeah i think it i'm not a mega fan of it but i thought it was a good adaptation in terms of you put the thing on

the page on the screen and uh it looks like it should so there you have it so yeah maybe it'll be more in the future and i haven't done i've not done a reading quarter in a while because frankly i don't think people out there care what i'm reading because there's nothing to do with our kind of source material that we cover usually but i did read the massive oral history of mad max fury road called blood sweat and chrome Chrome by Kyle Buchanan. And it's one of those books where they cover everything. And it's an oral history where the author did all the interviews. And in the oral history, he gets out of the way. There's like a paragraph to set up all the interviews. And they're just in conversation with each other.

Chat next chapter, a paragraph to set up what's happening in this chapter. And then all the quotes in conversation with each other. It's so great. That's why my oral history on Day of the Tentacle is set up the way it is. I prefer that format. All the work is done in editing, and the author's voice is not important. All the work is done behind the scenes with conducting the interviews and placing them in the right order. But this is one of those books, it's like 400 pages long, that there is so much great trivia and amazing stories about the making of this film that I can't even share them all with people. I just have to say,

you have to read this book because every page just has eight basically deep level IMDb fun facts just blasting off the pages. It's so, so, so good. So yeah, that is Blood, Sweat, and Chrome by Kyle Buchanan. It took me like three months

to get this at the library. It's in such demand, I think because of Furiosa. But it is one of the best oral histories I've read. And I respect Fury Road even more than I did before, which was a lot. Bob, I think your oral history book would have been better if before every section of it, you had a diary of how you emailed people and maybe some some personal details about what you have for lunch that day yes every chapter should be me talking about how smart i am and how only i could write this yeah i i omitted all of that material it was already

there on the page uh and other stuff i had a very fun time in minneapolis minnesota i saw riff tracks live point break live in the theater it was the first time i had seen an official riff tracks live event in in person we we had gone to sketch fest events that were called riff tracks but this was a riff tracks live thing and so went there um went to the after party thanks to friend of the show connor listoka uh met the guys i talked to them at the party it was fun no pictures because i didn't want to be an annoying fan because deep down they knew i was an annoying fan i was just trying to push it down but very very one-of-a-kind fun experience um being in minnesota being at a theater with mike kevin and bill and then at a

party with them and noticing all of the mystery science theater orbit people there like beth bees mckeever was there i couldn't believe it that that's the only after party where she would be recognized by everybody there yes and i could have said hi to her but i was like i don't know if she wants some guy coming up to her and be like are you bees are you bees i remember that one character you played once in that one host segment but yeah it was lots of fun uh i also went to the lake superior zoo in duluth and we did a red panda feeding experience and got to meet little red pandas up close and feed them little grapes unfortunately and i'm completely innocent in this one of the red pandas

died a week later and i was i was i was bummed out for an entire day the little pip the red panda passed away from unknown causes she was like a runt of the litter and they have a lot of red pandas have a lot of problems that's why they're endangered but uh i was very sad to see her go uh after we we spent so much time bonding with her and there's a lot of fun pictures of the little pip in a fun video little pip on my instagram real bob servo so r.i.p to pip and the video you guys feeding grapes was very cute yeah they they were adorable and the whole time the the keeper was telling us panda facts and in my head i was like i know all this i think i don't know this uh and i wanted to show

i think i bought like 20 books in minneapolis if you were looking for great used bookstores minneapolis is the place to go. I check so many things off of my to-buy list. It's incredible. So many out-of-print things. And I realize most people listening probably don't care, but I do want to shout out three amazing bookstores in Minneapolis. If you're there, you got to check them out because they're so cool. There's Once Upon a Crime Mystery Books, books number one great name of a book of a store number two there is like a secret second store within the store that you have to ask to access and they'll let you in there to browse like even even more rare and out of print books and one of the books

i checked out or bought rather has zero reviews on goodreads so i'm going to be the first person to review the book on goodreads and i feel very special about that um so once upon a crime we also have uncle hugo's science fiction bookstore slash uncle edgar's mystery bookstore they're in they're in a new space and they're just sort of building it out now but super impressed by everything there it's a really great space and also gonna shout out probably i might say this is the best comic book store I've ever been to. It's called Dream Haven Books and Comics in Minneapolis. It is so huge. They have everything. They have an amazing book section as well.

I was buying newspaper backs, lots of old Mad Magazines, lots of, frankly, everything. I was bowled over by this. I basically was dropped off there like a little kid while my wife hung out with her friend at a nearby cafe just i was there for i think like maybe 90 minutes or an hour and i went there twice during the trip it was so good so yeah dream haven books and comics could be the best comic book store i've ever been to in my life wow man i've you know i've been to a lot of comic book stores i'd like to check that out i i just went to a nice comic book store too on my own travels but i want to check out this dream haven one i've not heard of this before yeah dream haven's good but uh do not overlook once upon a crime and uncle hugo's science fiction bookstore slash uncle edgar's

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So for gaming for me, only two big games for me this month, which were I finished. Well, you never really finished it. I could do probably 10 more hours of stuff in it. But I beat the top boss in Erdtree, the shadow of the earth tree dlc for elden ring it was really great i got some help from you know online pals uh for one boss but not for the final boss because it kicked my butt so hard it was my husband told me when i got to it yeah i've been reading online other soulsborne folks saying this

is the hardest boss they've ever played like it could be the hardest ever but i eventually rebuilt my character pretty much entirely to fight him with a uh the the mirror tier uh guy so yeah if you're if you're gonna be those judges out there oh you use the the the mirror you know you summoned yourself basically and it i don't care i mean yeah who cares all right i'll tell you i played all of these games and most of the time if possible i summon someone to help me because fuck it i want to see more of the game i don't care is the game going to print out a gold medal if i beat a boss on my own no and and then of course after beating it then i looked up lore videos to tell me what I saw in it because I had no clue what the final cutscene was telling me.

That's another hallmark of a FromSoftware game. I finished the game. Now to go to another source to tell me what happened. Who am I? What was I doing? But Erdtree ruled. It was awesome. Of course it was.

And then the only other game I've been playing this last month is the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Splintered Fate, which is basically Hades, but with online multiplayer. And it's got some hiccups in that online multiplayer. Boy, have I dropped some frames or stopped moving for 20 seconds while my husband is doing stuff and I'm getting beat up. This is why Hades games aren't online, folks. But it's nice enough. It's a C plus to B minus Hades game. And if you're a Hades freak who has done every single thing you can do

in the beta version of Hades 2 and want to play a thing that's like Hades but starring your favorite turtles, you could do worse than Splintered Fates, for sure. Yeah, I didn't even know about this until you brought it up, and it looks fun. It looks like a nice time killer, like Hades.

Yeah, and it's a multiplayer one. There's many games like Hades out there that you could play that I'm sure are better. I've played a few myself, too. But it's the Turtles, and it's multiplayer, and it just got put out on Switch. I believe it was a first day on phones. It was mobile game and now it switches its first console release now as for movies i did my job and i saw the newest mcu film but i it actually was one i would have seen not out of

assignment unlike say the marvels uh everyone by by verdict of bob mackie everyone is free to like and enjoy this movie and pay money for it but i will say after reading that fury road book it made me furious that furiosa made i don't know two percent of what deadpool and wolverine made i was like oh yeah george miller sean levy doesn't need your money old george miller this could be his last movie i so yeah deadpool wolverine uh it is all that deadpool what a cut up man he's actually it is the he's the worst part of the movie and i get so annoyed seeing deadpool i'm tired of him but having wolverine there to tell him shut the fuck up and stab him a bunch of times that it's it's fun it's a winning combo. What can I say? Yeah, actually, I put the Mystery Science Theater 24-hour channel on a lot just as background noise.

And Zombie Nightmare was on, and I called my wife over to the TV. I was like, that was the director of Deadpool and Wolverine right there. He has gone on to be one of the most successful directors around now. And also, yeah, I mean, I'm just tired of the ryan reynolds shtick and just like oh he doesn't he know everybody everybody's his friend he's the famous he and just constantly also as far as gay jokes go i'm really tired around reynolds gay jokes of just how many times in this movie deadpool goes oh man but what if i sucked your dick haha just kidding like i'm just like, got it. I got it.

For a certain generation, though, that's as funny as jokes get. Like, what if I was gay, the joke. I heard a great review of it that said, Ryan Reynolds is a normal guy trying to act like a wacky guy or a weird guy. And meanwhile, Hugh Jackman is a weird guy trying to act like a normal guy. And it's an interesting energy between the two but look it's i i had a good time with it and it's full of i won't spoil things everybody has spoiled it for you on twitter i'm sure already but uh it is full of things that if you're a freak

who likes marvel movies and has seen all of them you'll be like oh that's funny that's funny yeah speaking of spoilers i gotta say i i had not that much interest in seeing alien romulus but within 18 minutes people were posting like cam rips of an infamous thing in the movie i was like hey thanks give give people a weekend give give me a weekend to see the fucking movie and then you can complain about it come on you can just post vaguely oh there's a thing in the end i fucking hate in this movie you say that you don't have to say literally the spoiler within the weekend yeah i mean i was reading letterboxd reviews that were spoiler free uh and they all did a great job that like saying there's a thing

in the movie you either will like it or you won't if you don't it will ruin it for you and i was like oh what is this and then i go on to twitter and there's a footage you can see the backs of people's heads as someone's filming the movie with their phone yeah i mean that's why i skipped i also have not watched alien romulus yet uh the divisive reviews divisive anyway that would have stopped me regardless because i also and i'd seen all the fucking alien movies until after prometheus i was like i'm done which by the way doesn't it suck that it seems like a twitter discourse now? People are trying to say Prometheus is good. Have you been seeing this, Bob? Yes, it's being reevaluated.

Here's the thing. I never saw it because of how infamous it was in terms of certain ideas and plot twists and whatnot. So it's all news to me. Oh, man, I hate that. But I didn't watch that movie this month. But I did. A couple more I want to highlight. I watched After Hours for the first time. I'd never seen it. It got a new 4K Criterion release. So I was like, all right, let's do this. And yeah,, because it looks like a corny 80s screwball comedy of a guy getting his head twisted on a clock. They don't tell you through that cover that it's like an anxiety dream made real in a film, like a Kafkaesque nightmare, which I have Kafkaesque nightmares all the time that don't look half as good as this movie.

Yeah, I mean, it kind of is a corny screwball 80s comedy, but through the filter of Scorsese. So it's a lot more artful there's a lot more darkness uh and it's it's not what you would expect it to be i think i got this way back in the day via netflix disc because i was just going through big directors catalogs and looking at scorsese and saying you know i've watched goodfellas and all these like what is what is after hours i've never heard anyone talk about this and then i felt like it was my secret movie and then everyone online started talking about it i was like oh i guess i'm i'm one of many weirdos who found this uh movie by a very popular director that's been in print forever but yeah i i watched it recently and not not as not as hot on it as i used to be

i i think i mostly just feel bad for patricia arquette's character and her fate in the film i just like oh i feel like this is supposed to be funny but uh i just feel bad for her it's poor woman i well i mean every woman in the movie is like a crazy bitch like that's that that's mainly the character they're playing they're all just a different crazy woman torturing are the main character the whole movie but i i did like that everybody in it is uh well i also like that it's full of homosexuals like i really like that like that is not commented upon really i only spotted two in the movie were there more oh man that well yeah the okay so when he's being accused uh by two guys of being a you know a breaking into a guy's apartment. They are both played extremely gay.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those guys. Those guys. Yeah. Yeah. And there's there's there's others, too, I think. But I mean, obviously, the funniest one is that there's just like two Tom of Finland

biker guys making out hardcore uncommented on in a scene, which. Yeah. And oh, and also it's got both the parents from home alone in it you can't you can't knock that oh yeah john hurt and katherine o'hara are both in i forgot i forgot yeah they're both there and and it's got some good extras on it for as you'd expect from criterion and the 4k looks good too and speaking of 4k the other thing i wanted to shout out was american graffiti the 4K version. I haven't watched that movie in a million years.

And it is so great. It really is. Everything about it was ripped off by Happy Days. It's insane. Right to the opening music. And I'm glad to have watched it again recently because, you know, we're about to do or in three years, I guess I'll watch it again. Three or four years, I'll watch it again when we get to summer four foot two again in our rewatch but it holds up a lot better than I remembered yeah I've never seen it uh but I feel like I will when we cover summer four foot two again so I'm just waiting maybe it'll be an 8k version then and I uh tv shows I have two I wanted to shout out

the one was dead and paranormalanormal Park the Netflix adaptation of the Dead India graphic novel series I really liked it I put off watching it for such a long time but my husband and I loved it it is a great you know homo homo show of scary kid stuff or it's like a tweens kind of show but it's full of gay stuff unapologetically gay stuff it's there's no they they got away with not having to do like allegories it's like no this is a this character's bi this character's gay this character's trans and they just are that they they it's not like a they weren't forced by management to to hide it under any window so in other words disney was not making this show.

It was Netflix, yeah. Though it has the Netflix curse of ending season two on a cliffhanger that will never be resolved because it got canceled. But you can get the third book and it's the same. And then the other one I forgot to write down on my list here, but I just remembered. We talked about the Harley Quinn show. I like watching the Harley Quinn show. It it's it's a b plus venture brothers to me well what if you wanted to watch an even easier to watch thing that just kind of flies through your brain and in and out it's kite man hell yeah the spinoff from harley quinn sorry kite man basically what if kite man ran

cheers and it but it's full of r--rated DC characters who are all having fun together? It's really the Bane show. Bane takes over the show. He's also in it, but they call it the Kite Man show. I think I saw a trailer, and I thought, this is full of references that I don't understand, so other people are free to enjoy it. The end. It's a really nice little show. I like it i mean it's not it's not going to

change the world but i have a good time watching every new episode that comes out especially because they fill it with voice actors i really enjoy including like andy daly and james adomian and also uh michael imperioli from from the sopranos is playing a mobster in it in a very funny way christopher from the sopranos uh and uh And then I'm reading a book. I'm actually reading a fiction book I haven't read in a little while. I'm reading Charles Portis' The Dog of the South. It's like a road trip comedy kind of book from the 60s from the writer of True Grit. And guess what? It's a road trip through the South in the 60s you're gonna see some words you don't see in books these days uh but it's it's a comedic book and uh some comedy characters are racist in it but

it's it's a it's a fun book i just wanted to read it because i'd heard about it before and it actually has a quote on the cover from bob odenkirk saying it's one of his favorite books but then on a recent uh episode of choppo trap house will miniker mentioned it too of like oh the dog of the south everybody got to read this like they think they were comparing some aspect of jd vance's campaign to it but it i have laughed out loud many times reading it already and i'm just like halfway through well i love books that are old and i have never heard of charles portis so uh maybe i'll check that out too his his big claim to fame is true grit i think he's only

written like four other books than that the uh once i finish this one i'm uh i want to read masters of atlantis which i think i've heard conan o'brien say is his favorite book ever and then you have to read bambi remember right i'm waiting on that book report i'm tapping my watch as far as my travels i also uh i went to port. Me and my husband went to Portland, Oregon. An easy, easy trip down from Seattle. It was mainly to see the Comedy Bang Bang live show there. My husband surprised me with some VIP tickets to it. It was extra funny because the Portland resident, recent Talking Simpsons guest, Katie Plattner, she was there too.

I got to just wave at her in line. She was hanging out with her friend will hines i was like oh hey i have a katie and she's like oh wow she she did a double take she had not seen me in person before only through a screen we usually don't seek out our guests and try to find them in person so no it was well she because she wasn't on the show she just happened to be with hanging out with her pal will hines who who was at the signing table and it was nice to say to will hines like hey i'm not just some freak i uh we had an email conversation uh but but portland it's beautiful we've we've talked about before

though i went like to two things i hadn't been to before which was a piece of shoals uh which was a delicious pizza place you you went to last year. You had just tweeted about how much you loved going to it. Yeah, thanks to Bill Oakley's recommendation. And then when you go there, you find out, oh, it's listed largely as some of the best pizza in the world. And I have to say, it's up there, definitely up there. It was amazing pizza. And then right next door was Quarter World world a really great barcade full of uh

full of like classic games and a lot of these new games these new fango games and also really delicious alcohol i really enjoyed that too yeah quarter oil is a little off the beaten path in portland most people go to ground control and that's a fun arcade as well but i like i like quarter world a little more because it's a little less trendy and I think it's a little less expensive. And I like the drinks and food selection a bit more there. And I just like it. I think I think it is inside of an old movie theater, too. So it's more of like a rundown, cozier vibe than the sleekness of Ground Control. But, yeah, I'm going to be going there at the end of September, spending a week there.

I think it's like my 15th or 14th trip to Portland. So I have all of my Portland things on my checklist I want to do. And of course, Quarter World is on there. And a Beach Shoals. Oh, and I purchased Dog of the South at the Powell's Books. That was part of our Powell's Book trip there, too. And also in Portland, I did a Simpsons Landmark search there. Because I've been there all those times.

And you hear like, oh, yeah, Matt Groening's from there. There's Kearney Street. There's Lovejoy Street, all those things. And I did go and get pictures of those. But I've been there before. But I looked up two things I had not been to before. One, Flanders Street there, they opened up a crossing, like a little bridge for it in like the last five years. Or they renewed it in some way and in 2021

they officially christened it ned flanders crossing with an official plaque with ned flanders waving at you saying hi dilly ho neighborinos so i checked out the ned flanders crossing which was really cool and then i went to i believe it is the the Lincoln High School that's in downtown Portland, and it was the high school Matt Groening went to, and there is a chunk of the sidewalk there that they even kept when they renovated all the old sidewalk, threw it all out. They kept this one that is a Bart Simpson that is signed by Matt Groening and says Class of 1972 on it. And so you can see the Bart at the high school Matt Groening went to that made him

so miserable as to write a bunch of funny comics about it. He got his revenge by doing graffiti or at least having a Simpsons Bart stamp in the graffiti. I wished I could have zapped it with a laser to make Bart appear and show me all of his newfangled inventions.

But yeah, so that was the major parts of what I did this month. I had a real fun month, and soon I'm going to be flying down to Orlando for a lot of theme parks, which, you know, I've only been to Disneyland once this year, so it's time to get going to another theme park. Let's be fair. You went to Tokyo Disneyland this year, so that counts time to get to go into another theme park. Let's be fair. You went to Tokyo Disneyland this year, so that counts, right? Oh, well, okay.

That's true. And listeners, Henry's going to Disneyland again after this. But with my mom. It's a trip for her sake. I think you will have gone to a Disney park five times this year. Yeah, yeah. That's a fair number. They need to make you a disney legend i've uh boy though

then again as far as like disney super fans go i i i'm only beginning to climb that mountain as far as the park super fans out a disney shareholder owes you at least a coffee i think i'm owed a dividend at this point on top of our free advertising for the disney plus service that's true wonderful features this entire podcast is just an ad for disney properties at this point and you're all part of it uh so moving on to questions and comments from this month's episodes let's move on to talking simpsons margin chains and most of the replies were about the crying game joke i think that's stuck in most people's craws so let's move on to eric schumann who says it's funny that your conversation went to modern movie trailers giving away too much spoilers in an episode with a scene parodying psycho the original trailer for psycho featured

vera miles in the shower scene instead of janet lee i had always heard this was done intentionally by hitchcock as a misdirect since spoilers for the near the 65 year old movie killing off the lead character played by a big star at the time was meant to be as much of a surprise as the reveal of Norman Bates mother. Turns out the trailer was filmed long enough after the movie that Lee wasn't available. So miles put on a blonde wig to recreate the scene and that's from Eric Schumann.

So I didn't know that trivia and I didn't know it wasn't a mislead. It was just, uh, she wasn't available. I think she was just avoiding a dirty old man. She won't return my phone calls. Get Vera. I think Hitchcock is going to become a character on the podcast now.

Oh, I like it. You've got a good impersonation. You have to just pull your chin down or pull your jowls down. I don't have as copious jowls as i used to now i i i just had a a new caricature done at a at a carnival caricature and uh comparing it to last year i was like wow i've lost a lot of weight in my caricature compared to the year before you gotta post it that could be uh well you can't you can't overwrite nina's avatar no no no no no i that's still my favorite

caricature but also on margin chains jonathan says just had to chime in and say that i'm 100 in support of siskel with spoiling the reveal of the movie his job is to critique and i think you really limit yourself as a critic especially given that specific exercise if you refuse to talk about certain aspects of the movie i'm very anti no spoiler culture because it leads to absolutely bottom of the barrel discussions about art being surprised in the story can be fun but for many but for so many it seems to be the sole point of enjoyment and most of the time the elements of the story aren't even important enough to leave out to begin with yeah i'm i am kind of on board with this i feel like if there are going to be spoilers there should be uh the classic spoiler warning and i also think that uh it depends on the age of the

thing i think a lot of people especially with the alien romulus spoilers that were online so quickly a lot of people have the mindset of oh you it's the first day so you've seen it and if not we'll screw you i saw it so here's a spoiler i want to talk about i feel like there needs to be a grace period maybe that we don't we don't have anything on the books in terms of spoiler laws but this is just my own preferences i think the polite thing is especially in like we're we're just talking like twitter other social media spoilers spoiler tag here space space space space or like give people dead space to miss things like or to to get out of it if they want to you can also go to that website where you can just type in your spoiler and it will like jumble up the letters and people people know what that website is i forget what it

is but it's the most common website to do that with and well and it helps on things like letterboxd or or discord you can spoiler tag things there's there's services like that on others i mean you know if we're talking about like heady discussions or serious adult discussions of media then yeah part of the discussion should be like we're all grown-ups here i can spoil this thing this thing sucked or this thing was great but you need to know why this thing is great or not by telling you about it but yeah I mean people are very sensitive to spoilers I don't like things being spoiled either and then there's also I think another part of the meta conversation of it is that say with Deadpool and Wolverine it's not it okay it does tell a story,

an emotional story, about characters who go through things, but also it is made to go to the fireworks factory. And if somebody were to tell you, hey, before you go to that fireworks factory, they have this amazing firework that explodes like eight times over

and it looks like a star, that might bring people down. Like, oh, I wanted to be surprised by that firework. And that takes away the main part of enjoyment of a movie that doesn't offer deepness, a ton of depth to it, like Deadpool and Wolverine, for example. Yeah, I guess it's just like we all have our various degrees of sensitivity. You and I wrote about video games a lot in our old career and we knew people were more sensitive than others people if you write about a game some people be like oh

man i wish i didn't know there was a water level why'd you spoil that or people you'd be surprised by what people are spoiled by sometimes well i mean we we worked through that i guess too with like you know say a halo well we were barely no we weren't really in the games press when halo 2 came out but like uh but but there were games like that where oh there's a twist early on that they kill this guy or whatever though i had an annoyance you know i won't name the game just in case people won't like it uh somehow i haven't been spoiled by it but there was a 2010 game where i hadn't beaten it yet. And then another person at the UK branch of the website I worked at just did a headline about like, oh, you'll be in tears at the end of this game.

And I just want to reply to them like, fuck you. You just told me this character dies in this game with your dumb headline that didn't literally say this character dies. But guess what? I am not a fucking moron and i can read that through your headline but yeah uh again there you i think it's clear when someone is crossing a spoiler line but then you can always be surprised by what people think is a spoiler but you need enough material there to be critical of so you have to at least spoil some some certain things when you're being critical of something ultimately we're all trying to figure it out i think um so moving on to crusty gets

canceled vance jericho says this has been one of my favorite podcasts that you guys have done and mark malkoff was the perfect guest for this episode uh regarding julie kafner not appearing in this episode aljean has actually explained why on twitter and he goes on to quote aljean from this tweet and aljean says in this case there were so many rewrites with all the guests so we overlooked marge which i regret uh going back to vance he says makes sense to me at least crusty gets canceled as a fun episode but it feels like a patchwork in places uh and this is me bob saying i feel like more than any other staff member on The Simpsons, Al Jean is the most diplomatic, often to a fault. And I will say this could be true, but he could also not want to rehash an actor being upset with an episode and bring up 30-year-old drama or at least acknowledge it publicly. So I say possibly true, but I kind of believe what we heard about julie

and harry not being happy with this that to me sounds like an executive producer spin in a way that he takes the blame like there were so many rewrites that with all the guests that we overlooked marge meaning we wrote an episode wrong i take the blame for a bad script that made Marge not be in it. And in a way that in no way blames his current employee and a person he's worked with for almost 40 years now, Julie Kavner. Yeah. Yeah.

Very diplomatic, but yes. But thanks for calling that to our attention, Vance. And our next comment. Oh, yes. That's from Joe Hodgson,

who says my parents were not viewers of late night televisions. And so I had no exposure to it at all. I would see Leno and Doritos commercials as a kid and just assume that he was some sort of pitch man. At some point, I became aware of The Tonight Show when the Doritos guy was the host and had no idea. Carson, the guy I saw in that one scene in Home Alone, had hosted it before, so I was really flabbergasted as a kid to see his portrayal on The Simpsons. I thought he was some kind of wonder showman who did bizarre tricks like David Copperfield.

I was kind of disappointed when I found out that he was just the host of a late-night show. And yeah, Joe, I didn't know about Jay Leno until he started hosting The Tonight Show because I wasn't watching Johnny Carson. I wasn't seeing Leno being a guest host so often. So when he started, I thought like, oh, it's the Doritos guy.

I recalled all of his Doritos commercial because that's what kids would have seen in primetime or daytime programming, the commercials that he was in. My mom was very invested in Letterman not getting the tonight show and being mad about it like i think she actually did upset her so i i got to hear about it from that angle and i knew and that's why i i watched like carson's last episode and uh yeah

you know also i the mention of mark malkoff our guest on that one i just listened to uh on my flight the two-parter he did with Robert Spiegel, which was just incredible. Like he, he gets Robert Spiegel to just open up his files and be like, okay, this sketch who wrote that. And Spiegel's like,

well, in the order it's me, then Conan and Greg Daniels. So I think it was my idea. And then, and he reads, it actually made headlines. He reads a Chris Farley sketch they didn't use because honestly it was almost too mean to him.

But it also was hilarious. I don't think I heard the second part, but yeah, his podcast Inside Late Night is so, so good. And of course he's got hundreds of episodes of that Carson podcast in the back catalog as well. Yeah, we said it all over that episode, but Mark's Inside Late Night podcast is so great, everybody should check it out. Get ready for Las Vegas-style action at BetMGM, the king of online casinos. Enjoy casino games at your fingertips

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Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? So moving on to Homer's Barbershop Quartet, Kat Hegberg says, Aside from that, we had a black kitty named Snowball who predated our watching The Simpsons, so true coincidence. This was the episode that made me feel like my family was, for lack of a better word represented on screen as a little kid at the time my mom still had a baby on board side on her car and i was so annoyed by it because my sister and i were in kindergarten second grade

and not babies when i asked why she said so people won't try to hit our car and then this episode aired and i said mom i like you and she tried to clarify that she didn't think people would intentionally do that but it was close enough for me her car stopped working a year or so later and the sign retired with it uh so thank you cat uh so one of the commenters said the the baby on board sign is really just to let you know emergency workers know that a baby is in the car if you have an accident but i also think another effect is if someone has road rage or is like up your ass on the highway if they if they see the sign they might say well i don't want to murder a child so maybe i'll slow down a little bit so i think it has a preventative effect as well but i guess

ostensibly it is for emergency people to know there are children in the car. It has a million uses, just like wax lips. Or candy lips, yeah. Also on that episode, we have a comment from Obz, of course, who says, When I met Matt Groening in 1993, I had him draw me a bongo because I thought he'd be impressed that I wasn't asking for a Bart. He didn't seem impressed, but he very politely obliged. That's on the comment of how matt graining when he met uh george harrison he complimented a deeper uh bit

of the george harrison solo catalog as opposed to just saying you know that beatles song was really great yeah we were talking about the best way to approach celebrities you know if you should tell them about a rare obscure thing i think i think we talked about how uh often the celebrity won't know what you're talking about or they'll think like oh you want me to congratulate you because you reference this old thing i i went through this uh when i was uh meeting the riff tracks guys because i met mike kevin and bill and for whatever reason on that 24 hour mystery science theater channel the catalina caper episode pops up a lot.

And in that episode, there's a host segment where Tom Servo sings the song Creepy Girl. So I've heard Creepy Girl like 10 times in the past month. And in my head, I was like, I should tell Kevin Murphy that because of my parrot, Creepy Girl has been playing in my house constantly. But then I thought, what if this sounds weird? And how is he going to respond to this? It's something that only really tickles me. So instead, I was like, I like the show. Great stuff great stuff tonight you know just talking about what happened in the present that's i feel like that's the best way to do things i have the best results from that you know i have a new one of that re uh from going that comedy bang bang show because of the signing

at the end uh we we didn't bring too much for others to sign except for Paul F. Tompkins and Scott Aukerman. I brought my Mr. Show DVDs with me to get them to sign it. And yeah, I told them like, oh yeah, these commentaries were my podcast before podcasts. And then Paul F. Tompkins said, oh wow, that's great. I haven't listened to these in forever. And I almost wanted to say, I stopped myself from being like, oh yeah, it might be weird for you to hear you guys hanging out with people who have been arrested since then. Only one. Only one.

Yeah, we know him. And then I could have also said, and also then there's BJ Novak on this, Scott, who you had a falling out with like 15 years ago, and he sort of sued you over the rights between two ferns, didn't he? I don't think, and that's just the thought of, what's the worst thing I two ferns didn't he i don't think it's all and that's just the thought of what's the worst thing i could say right now to this famous that's called an

intrusive thought and i i have those a bunch uh they're they're they're a nemesis of me well you didn't you didn't act on it that's great i'm sure that is the elephant in the room for a lot of those guys the jay johnson thing yeah yeah which fortunately they didn't it it's why every if you listen to comedy bang bang with any regularity you know your improv guest some of them are going to do a january 6th joke every now and then and and uh paul and scott have a different laugh at that than other people would at a january 6th joke yeah i mean my take is he didn't murder anyone he committed a crime i guess and then he was found guilty of a crime and he's being punished so the

end who cares yeah no I mean probably for them it's not like not trying to distance themselves like well we didn't go January 6th it's more just like oh this person we were very close with is in a bad place right now that's sad yeah maybe uh Jade Johnston Renaissance coming next year

where he's gonna reinvent himself i i i wish him the best i wish him the best uh so moving on to an episode henry wasn't on and that's talking japanese the we covered the full house episode road to tokyo nina and myself and blake r says really dig the prospect of this podcast even if it's intermittent. Nina always is fun and insightful. For the Joey haters out there, I always recommend the episode where he gets a used car for DJ's birthday that ends up being stolen. The family gets

Joey out of hot water with the police by giving them a tour of his bedroom full of Ninja Turtle slippers and Scooby-Doo bedsheets and they deem him such a loser that they let him off the hook, which sends him into a depressive spiral. And yes, Blake, I recall this episode distinctly as someone who was headed into the Joey Gladstone Lane as an adult.

I see myself transitioning into him. And that defense will not fly in court, but if a policeman ever showed up here, my wife could be like, look at my husband, look at the Mad Magazines, look at all the Simpsons crap. Do you think he could have stolen anything scrap do you think he could have stolen anything do you think he could have assaulted anyone i that description has it all rocketing back into my brain and now i need to i want to pull up that episode just because yes i also feel

personally attacked by it now i didn't watching it as a, I didn't think I'd end up as Uncle Joey, though he was my favorite as a kid. You just need to have a sister or brother-in-law or your brother have a child and you can be an uncle. I've been an uncle for almost 13 years. I think I have been an uncle for 13 years and it comes with a lot of privileges.

Well, my brother needs to first have a kid and a wife and then she needs to dry die tragically oh jesus i can't move in into back to san francisco yeah uh yeah i really recall that episode and them saying well you know he's basically a child so you can't arrest him you know it always bugged me on that show when uncle joey got a new job every year i was like why can't he just be that beaver puppet show host every season why has he got to get a new job every year that made me that made me mad as a kid new stories yeah uh jacob also says the beach boys 1992 album

summer in paradise starring john stamos is widely regarded as the absolute low point of the band both critically and commercially. The album reportedly sold less than a thousand copies on release, bankrupting the distributor Navarre, and was universally panned. It is one of the only Beach Boys albums not available on streaming services today. Possibly the worst song of all time, Summer of Love features Mike Love trying to rap. It was intended to be a duet with part Simpson for a play in Simpson's movie, but was turned down by the producers. It was instead used on an episode of Baywatch,

a music video full of cringe exists. Somebody should go to jail for this. And Jacob included a link to the beginning of the Baywatch episode, so I'll drop a bit of that rap right here. People all around the world in every nation like to get together for some excitation. If you're a girl who appreciates her recreation, why don't you let me take you on a love vacation?

Yeah, I'll take you. So there you have it. I'm sorry for making the podcast much worse. Let's move on to what a cartoon movie. Oh, go ahead. Sorry, that Beach Boys badness, I did not know that Bart Simpson duet, like they pitched to the Simpsons kind of thing.

I think it was planned by Mike Love, this Simpsons movie featuring Bart and Mike Love having a rap together. And by the way, we recorded the Full House Talking Japanese episode, and then Podcast The Ride put out their Beach Boys on Full House episode, and that made the perfect companion to our episode. So check out the Podcast The Ride Beach Boys on Full House episode.

It might be on their Patreon. I'm pretty sure it is. That was a really good one. And yeah, you know, Also that it's clearly the Summer of Love wasn't even good enough To be on the Yellow Album That's how shitty of a song it was Oh the Yellow Album the funny thing about that Is that

I just I put up an Instagram Story and I wanted to put a Simpsons song behind it So I just put on Born Under a Bad Sign And when I heard it I thought Oh my god compared to the Yellow Album this is like the Beatles I can't believe how much better go back to Sing the Blues after you hear

our Yellow Album episode it is a good album in comparison and it blows my mind how bad the Yellow Album is I hope you all enjoyed that by the way that was a lot of fun you mentioned Yellow Album now. There was one correction somebody sent me, or not a correction, a further illumination of truth that I then looked up.

They originally, on the poster version of the cover, you know, it has the Krusty doll wearing the Welcome Ren and Stimpy shirt, the reference to the Welcome Rolling Stone shirt on the Shirley Temple doll that's on the cover of the Sgt. Peppers. But originally, or at least on one version of it in an official post release, it said, Welcome Fish Police. I guess I wonder. Oh, go ahead. No, I wonder, like, was it Fish Police first and then they were told to change it to Ren and Stimpy or the other way around? I wonder. Yeah, maybe they didn't want to piss off Nickelodeon because they'd be airing Ren and Stimpy up through the late 90s.

And Fish Police, once it aired, it never was anywhere. Maybe Cartoon Network, some reruns here and there, but that's it. It no longer exists. At least Capital Critters got to burn off some remaining its full season on Cartoon Network. I don't think Fish Police ever got that right. No, no, no. And I don't think we'll cover it. Maybe, maybe.

Capital Critters hurt so much. It hurt me. I'm still recovering. That was so bad. Maybe Fish Police is somehow better. I don't know. Maybe we'll find out. Moving on to what a cartoon movie. Pocahontas was the movie of July. And Ryan O'Reilly says,

Disney's Animal Kingdom also had a few things themed to Pocahontas. A show in the old Camp Mini Mickey section, now Pandora, and a binaural soundscape attraction now closed in Rafiki's Planet Watch themed to Grandmother Willow. Pocahontas also had a show briefly in the Fantasyland Theater at Disneyland in the mid-90s, and even briefer at Disney MGM Studios, replaced by Hunchback. The most major current Pocahontas inclusion at the moment is if you see the original World of Color show play at DCA, which has Just Around the Riverbend as a gorgeous showpiece. Bob and Henry do note that it made a lot of money, but it was quickly replaced by Hunchback,

and my theory is that the film was not only a backslide financially from The Lion King, but it just didn't move merch in the parks they just kept constantly moving on and ditching whatever worked versus whatever didn't and pocahontas seems to have not worked most of all yet it was too etched into the eisner era of cramming everything possible into the park as soon as possible that there were some leftover strands dizzy's america from the research i did for my podcast absolutely started to pivot to theming their native American area to Pocahontas, even in some documents labeling it as the Powhatan Village.

So there you have it. Yeah, thank you. We had wondered how much Disney's America was planned to involve Pocahontas stuff. And yeah, you know, when it comes to merchandising, Lion King,

you just think about it from a toy perspective. Every character in lion king makes a good toy well meanwhile the human one uh where where your main characters are humans you have to give them cute animal sidekicks so they can be a stuffed animal because john smith or i can't be a stuffed animal yeah i guess you just have barbies but they're pocahontas as your main selling item but that's that's kind of it i'm looking forward i'll be coming back next month with a trip report from going to pandora and i'll

be keeping an eye out as well at disney world for any tarzan or pocahontas or mulan all of our summer of disney renaissance kaiser fulsome also said about pocahontas, I'm with Bob on learning more about music and musicals after revisiting the film's soundtrack. I'd have to recommend the Walt Disney Records The Legacy Collection version of this soundtrack. I believe it was mentioned in the podcast, but The Legacy Collection is a collection of different Disney movies from throughout the years and even the parks. Soundtracks feature not only the entire movie songs and orchestral tracks as well but in some cases even songs that were featured in the movie but not any of the official album releases vanessa's song from little mermaid as well as the mentioned if i never knew you they

also have early work demos and such they're available on apple music and hopefully spotify as well as well as a physical release and lovely cover artwork that beautifully homages Mary Blair's art. Yeah, I looked that up on YouTube. They are also on Spotify. Just the these these collections are really neat. All of the demo versions and unused songs. It's the best place to get them in the best quality. Yeah, it's been cool to see so many demos released of uh songs for that was on mulan too i i found several demos and same with like the uh well there's an entire demo movie you can find on internet archive for uh emperor's new groove uh so yes check out those uh i think

they're called what are they masterpiece legacy collections so yeah of certain movies they are two discs lots of fun stuff on those moving on to talking futurama attack of the killer app and purple comment says the susan boyle crap is so mean-spirited and uncharacteristic for the show futurama and the simpsons have had plenty of mean jokes jared great kaneer david schwimmer bill maher but doing a whole subplot just feels cruel it feels like something better suited for Mad TV or South Park. Did the commentary say anything about how this subplot came into being? And Purple Comet with his comment, I have to say no.

There was no mention of where this came from or why they decided to do it. But yeah, it was a mistake, especially this early in the Comedy Central run of Futurama. It just felt like they were trying to be South Park. And they immediately move on from this style of humor. So it feels like it was a weird attempt to try something new out, but it didn't fit with the sense of humor of the show. Now it's like too personally mean

and also it's like, I don't know, I do I feel different when making fun of the looks of Bill Maher or David Schwimmer who are, you know, famous guys who are extremely rich and whose careers won't be impacted, as opposed to Susan Boyle, who part of her appeal is she's supposed to be a regular person who then becomes famous and who, right as they become famous and they have this like amazing voice that transcends their,

you know grounded background then it's like oh she's like ugly and sings bad like that it's so mean and also wrong like she doesn't sing bad she's a good singer she's a monster who gets stabbed with a scalpel every couple of hours killed repeatedly yeah uh we don't like it but hey the rest of the episode's pretty funny and steven c nadell says about that episode, having only bought Android mobiles, I've never paid more than $300 reduce. I'm also accident prone and managed to kill at least four phones through stupid actions. I also had the honor of meeting Billy West at a con in August 2013

and he signed my autograph with shut up and take my money. And considering how much I paid for the photo op, it may have been a bit of a good natured dig at my fandom. I bet Billy West is very happy for that episode, giving him something new to write under an autograph or on top of an autograph. Instead of just, I don't know, like shut up, you idiot. I bet he's written out idiot many times. Oh, yes. That has to be until 1999, that was what he wrote the most on things I wonder how much it cost to get the photo op with Billy West type deal I just saw somebody share the hundreds of dollars it cost to get a photo with Mark Hamill at one of those things

It is not cheap And then you see some of them where the photo op is you five feet away with plexiglass between you and the person. Yeah. It just it feels a little cheap then, doesn't it? Yeah. Like, yeah. Hey, if you if you enjoy that picture, then Godspeed. Yes.

Yeah. Hey, it's your money well spent. Then if you had a good time with it. Christopher Lloyd's children need money, I think. I don't know. Actually, I don't know if actually i don't know if he has children i don't i'm not sure about that at all his estate the lloyd estate uh let's move on to talking the hill death in texas and blake r says very interesting discussion to

hear as a former texan we often eulogize the legacy of future guest star ann richards who did a lot of good for the state and was the last democratic governor of texas before george w bush began their steady decline. It turns out that even she was pro-death penalty and oversaw nearly 50 executions under her tenure, which just goes to show how long this has been a bipartisan issue. Yes, thank you for pointing that out, Blake. We covered, you know, Bill Clinton being a big death penalty guy. And this was really the era of the tough on crime 90s, not the not the cause of what can make people into criminals, but just murdering people systematically. That's easy to do. party platform that comes out of every convention that this was the first one in years that did not

at least have stated as a value the abolition of the death penalty not that they not to say dems have been working hard towards that anyway but to remove it is even a thing you'll say you'll try to do that was depressing to read about yeah i don't like that i don't care i don't care for that uh frankly i've avoided most of the coverage because i found it depressing so yep uh getting the bullet points is fine that's depressing enough uh we have one final comment oh go ahead yeah i was gonna say if you like look i get it if you like the vibes of the get more power to you if you enjoyed the vibes of little john singing vp harris to the walls oh like if that made i mean to be fair imagine what the vibes would be like if Biden was still the candidate.

I can't. It would be like lynching and it would be bizarre and nightmarish. I'm happy people feel good about this. But please continue. Oh, yes. But sorry. The final comment is, again, from one of my favorite names on the site among our commenters, because it's Mara the Demon, my favorite demon from Persona. And Mara the Demon says, Henry, I believe the Books to Prisoners program you're talking about is the one run by the Left Bank Books. It's actually a volunteer-run anarchist collective bookstore at Pike Place Market. It's a cool store to check out if you're ever at the market. They actually do sell new releases and have a good collection of local small press works. And relevant to the conversation, they have a section specifically for books prisoners are requesting you can buy as a donation.

And yes, that is the one you were thinking about, Mara. It is the one run by Left Bank Books. I did make a dollar donation, and I will visit them. I think I did go to it. I went to a bookstore when I went to Pike Place Market last year. So I think I did go to it along with what purports to be the oldest comic book store in America that's still standing is in Pike Place. But yeah, the Left Bank Books folks look into their Books to Prisoners program. It's a nice thing you can do.

And now to know that it's run by an anarchist collective bookstore only makes it I didn't know the politics of the bookstore that it was an anarchist collective so that's pretty cool to learn that's our full endorsement but that is it for this episode of Talk to the Audience just to go over what's happening again clear schedule for October there will be something happening in early October and in a few weeks after this goes live we will

let you know what that is you're going to be very excited to hear about that but until then we're covering the new Batman series on What a cartoon we've got a new episodes of futurama king of the hill we're covering on the patreon and also at the $10 level on the patreon we are covering b movie we are sick of covering good things let's talk about a bad thing it's going to be an exciting september as we roll into fall another fall on the network and more fun stuff to come yeah so look forward to all that and stay tuned on that and we got some cool guests coming up on the talking simpsons in september too we've we've recorded most of it now and some some returning favorites and new folks on it so

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