Taskmaster The Podcast - Ep 147. Greg Jenner - S16 Ep.8

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

On this week's podcast Ed is joined by Taskmaster uber fan, historian extraordinaire and podcast host, Greg Jenner. Greg offers some brilliant insights in to the episode and gives his thoughts on each... contestant. Ed and Greg also come to the agreement that every prize task should end with a drum role! Watch all of Taskmaster on All 4www.channel4.com/programmes/taskmasterVisit the Taskmaster Store for all your TM goodies!taskmasterstore.com Visit the Taskmaster YouTube Channelyoutube.com/taskmaster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Imagine how lonely it can feel to be facing mental illness or addiction on your own. Now imagine how lonely it might feel during the holidays. That's why CAMH needs your help to light the way forward. Your donation can help us make sure no one is left behind by fueling progress in mental health care and patient experience. Donate now at camh.ca slash giving Tuesday to double your impact with a match donation. That's camh.ca slash giving Tuesday. Hello and welcome to the Taskmaster Podcast, it's me Ed Gamble, host of the Taskmaster Podcast and of course we're still talking about series 16 of Taskmaster. Getting towards the end now of the series, really getting to crunch time because today we'll be talking about episode 8, 8 of 10. And we have a special guest to talk about it, of course, we have
Starting point is 00:01:03 the wonderful Greg Jenner. You all know Greg Jenner as the host of Your Dead To Me. The hit history podcast, Greg as a historian, broadcaster, involved in horrible histories, of course, massively. He's been on this podcast before. He is a taskmaster superfan and thinks about it in a sort of deep way that I think a lot of people don't. So Greg always brings something interesting, a new little tip bit of information or a new angle on things which no one else does. So we're always excited to speak to Greg and we will be speaking to him about series 16 episode 8. So let's just get on with it. Here's Greg Jenner. Welcome back Greg to the Taskmaster Podcast. Thank you very much for having me back. I'm thrilled.
Starting point is 00:01:49 It is a joy to have you back. Always, most enthusiastic and insensitive guests, I think a true taskmaster fan. I think probably what happens is that I get so excited when you ask me to do this, that I drop everything else, I get way in my head about it, I start to sort of think through what would I say about, and then I deliver all of that with too much energy, and I come at it with too much, I've listened about past episodes, and I'm like, it's like I'm on double speed, I don't know what's happened to me, I don't do this with other podcasts, it's just you. Well, look, we absolutely love it, we love the enthusiasm, we love'm on double speed. I don't know what's happened to me. I don't do this with other podcasts. It's just you. Well, look, we absolutely love it.
Starting point is 00:02:26 We love the enthusiasm. We love that you're double speed because you pack in double the amount of information. It's not like you're saying the same amount as everyone else. There's always exciting stuff going on in there. So by all means, go triple speed today if you want. I mean, don't set that challenge
Starting point is 00:02:41 because I will try and rise to it. And then, you know, know and people listening on double speed because there's lots of people out there who double speed anyway. Yeah, they're gonna just have a nightmare. It's gonna be just They're gonna be living in an absolute hell mouth, I think Also, by the way, double speed on podcasts that to me is crazy Yeah, I don't I get I will tolerate 1.1 speed crazy. Yeah, I don't I get I will tolerate 1.1 speed. But what's that what's that gaming you really? What's 1.1 speed gaming you? I think across across the span of your lifetime, I think it's going to win you back one Tuesday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Which you'll probably feel listening to podcasts anyway. Yes, yes, yes. Very little difference. Yeah, what a choose they it'll be okay. Yes So of course we're talking about series 16 the current series of taskmaster day we're talking about episode eight You previously have chatted to us about sort of some of the more historical episodes of taskmaster when we've been going through the back archives So it's exciting to talk to you about a current episode. Are you enjoying the series so far, Greg? I mean, stupid question. Obviously, of course, I'm enjoying it. This show is my...
Starting point is 00:03:50 It's just, honestly, if they could put it on every day, I would watch it every day. Yeah. And I'd still be as giddy and happy. I love this series. And I think there's something about this series that shouldn't work at his working. I don't...
Starting point is 00:04:02 I feel like they've deliberately gone a little radical with the casting. Yes. Yes, I mean, at his working. I don't, I feel like they've deliberately gone a little radical with the casting. Yes. Yes. I mean, that's working. They do, they've, it feels like they normally sort of, there's normally some spanners in the work or there's some sort of a left field dice rolling going on when they cast a show. But this one, particularly when I heard the line up, I was like, wow, I, I've never even thought about these people in the same day, let alone imagine them on a show together. Yeah, I mean, I would say they've gone to the Maverick shed and they've gone, I'll have
Starting point is 00:04:33 four Mavericks, please. And you may not only have one Maverick, you may have the Maverick and then, you know, some competent people and someone older and younger. Now you said that they're going to the Maverick shed and asking for four mavericks. Who do you consider on this line up to be the non-maverick? Of course, profiting would say, this is by no means an insult or slight on anyone. It's a good question. I think Sam, obvious maverick.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yes, definitely for sure. For sure. I think Susan, maybe you didn't necessarily think maverick, but I think Susan brings Maverick energy. Totally. Julian is a Maverick. I mean, Julian has always been, just does whatever he wants. He's incredibly good at it,
Starting point is 00:05:15 but doesn't sort of play, you know, it doesn't follow the rules of what other people do. He's always been a bit of a Maverick, I think. Yes. And Perkins is a Maverick. If you spend time with her. Yeah. Her brain is glorious, but there's, there's stuff going on in there, you know. I thought we saying, are we saying Beaumont is the non-Maverick because- Oh no. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I think there might all be Mavericks for this definition. Yeah, no, you're right. I was going to say Lucy is the kind of classic stand-up comedian who does a bit of acting, sort of fairly standard booking. But yeah, in terms of bookings, yeah, but I mean, in the way that they are on the show, like Lucy, I think Lucy is a maverick, but she doesn't want to be a maverick because she loves following the rules.
Starting point is 00:06:00 She wants to get everything right. Yes. But she simply is physically incapable of doing that. And also, you ask her a question, and you end up somewhere completely different. So she is a maverick as well, I would say. Yeah, I can't argue with that. I think you can be right.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I might be willing to take Julian's back. Maybe he's not a maverick, he's just incredible. He's just a legend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do feel like the casting on this series, when I first saw it, I went, that's too many. And it's like, all the, I don't know, it's like a superhero movie where everyone's got
Starting point is 00:06:32 a weird superpower. And none of them are just like quite fast or quite good at fighting. It's like everyone's got a niche power. But in a good way. It's like, it's the X-Men as opposed to Avengers' own game. Like there's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely great.
Starting point is 00:06:46 It's the first time we've ever sort of categorized the casting like an MCU film, so I'm very happy about that. Great, thank you. Well, let's talk about this episode then. Let's talk about the prize task. The best single word object you own and love that gets the best reaction when introduced following a drum roll. This is a very complicated prize task category.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah, but I loved it. I kind of feel like this should be the prize task every week now. Yeah. And I know that's probably not what they want, but the drum roll makes everything better. It does. Everything's funny after a drum roll, as Alex, you know, evidence by Alex in the intro to the price task is absolutely hilarious. But also, this price task is essentially bringing a thing.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, but it's also a brink, but it's got to be something you know and love. Yeah, which I feel like not all of them noticed and then it's also going to be one word. Yeah, which really tripped up Lucy. Yeah, the first one as well, the first one they went to, alien, alien devise. Yeah. But the story, Lucy's story, that it's an object that was in her mum's ear for two years and 36 months, it fell out. There'd been a UFO sighting in the local area, the cat licked it and then disappeared. Yeah. And that's where they ended it.
Starting point is 00:08:18 There was no more. The cat is the cat gone forever? I think we're at Episode 8 now, Greg, and I think they know in the studio that if they asked any more questions, please see. They were never gonna get onto anyone else's prize task to let alone the rest of the episode, because, but this is such an, it is amazing, isn't it? But also the fact that she said,
Starting point is 00:08:37 it's the best thing that you know and love. And she brought in a lump of metal from her mum's ear, that's the whole... How is that the thing you like? I'm like, sure, if it's a story that you want to tell. Yes. But it felt so bizarre. Yeah, it's definitely, it's there because it's the story
Starting point is 00:08:57 she wanted to tell, and I'm very glad she did. It's surely not an object she loves, and it wasn't one word. Alien devise. Alien devise. I mean, I think I'm always a stickler for these things, I'm grumpy. It doesn't stick to the rules of the prize star,
Starting point is 00:09:19 so it shouldn't have got three points. But what'd you say about that story? That is absolutely outstanding, isn't it? It's incredible. I love the way also there was a sort of gentle humble brag of a went to one of the best doctors in the country. Yeah. And he said, it won't be wax.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But he didn't say, it'll be alien technology. It'll be alien device, yeah. We didn't get his feedback on it. She said it fell out of her mum's ear two years later or something. It felt like the doctor did not solve it. The cat solved it. Why don't I? The cat solved it or, I mean, also it was massive.
Starting point is 00:09:50 The thing was massive. Yeah. And it was like folded out. It was like metal folded over in three parts. So it looked like it'd probably be in like a six inch bit of steel or something. It was really hard. Well, it's from an alien device.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Of course, it was really. Ha ha ha. Oh, I'm actually that real. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha before to watch them, review them, and you know, get ready to do the podcast. I'm so jealous. Yeah, I accidentally clicked this episode because it was at the top left, and I didn't check the episode names. So the first bit of taskmaster I saw
Starting point is 00:10:35 was this prize task of... Oh, wow! ...from the series. And I think I got into task one before I realised that this was not the first episode of the series. I really should I realized that this was not the first episode of the series. I really should have worked that out, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Alien devise came up and they weren't asking any more questions on it. Greg seemed completely used to Sam's bullshit. So that was the first clue that I should have gone with. When Sam does his and Greg just stares at him, I'm like, that cannot be the introduction. Sam's one is beautiful because he shouts cobalt. And you're immediately like, okay, the task is no in love. And you've shouted cobalt.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So, and almost stands out of his chair. He's so excited to say cobalt. He comes out, he almost lashes towards Greg. Cobalt. But then launches into a story about children covering their ears because of a flight path. Yeah. That's so one relate. It's not even in the same stratosphere.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's like, it's like someone's, it's like an alien device has been put in his ear and aliens are whispering to him and kind of reconfiguring what he's saying. It's soundbunkers. Where do you get the cobalt? Internet. Why do you tell me the story? Everyone else told a story. What? So funny. You never know where you are with him. He's always about three steps ahead of everyone else, but also on a path that no one else is on. Just brilliant. Yeah, everyone else was telling a story, I wanted to tell a story about these. The statues do sound fascinating, but I had that bore absolutely no relevance to what we were supposed to be talking about. Oh, I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Cobalt that you got online. Again, you are right. It's something that he owns, yes. Does he love that? I don't. I don't know. What is Cobalt for? Is it a mineral?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Do you lick it? Is it, it's not medicinal, isn't it? You cobalt, you make stuff from Cobalt. Yeah, but you just bought it online and then just some Cobalt. It was two points, but very, very funny and totally worth it. Susan Drumroll, calendar, and then the insane shock of a cat balls calendar, which did get
Starting point is 00:12:42 a very, very good reaction in the studio to be fair. I was thinking of the family tea time edit when I saw this one, I was thinking, how do you put that on Channel 4 to 5pm for the kids? How did you bleep the cat balls? That's just massive cat balls. There's no safe way to do that. So I was surprised she was allowed to put that one through, but it was very, very funny. Well, I guess cats have balls, cats have balls, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:07 She's not. It's been matter-effect about it, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. Cats have balls, I guess they could blur them out a little bit, but I suppose they're sort of self-blurred because they're furry. LAUGHTER Signing it all.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Reflexo blur. Yeah, yeah. So maybe it's fine, but it was also just the follow-up thing of saying I got this at the end of working on a film and And then you said that sudden realization of what vibe is she putting across. Oh, I love that. Yeah, that was really fun I mean, I'm a like Susan's a hugely talented act, you know, incredibly talented and I've watched a few years But I love getting to know her through this show because you get the feeling that she's watched a few years, but I love getting to know her through this show because you get the feeling that she's hard to read. Maybe I don't know, because it seems like people are getting a cat ball testicle sort of, yeah, and as and maybe she's confused by that too,
Starting point is 00:13:52 but I really felt it felt good. It felt very fitting somehow. Yeah, I mean, she but she's laughing on this episode before anyone said anything to her. So she's just like, she's loving this experience so much. And it's absolutely throwing herself into it. And I think Cat Ball calendar for me, I think was my favorite, my favorite submission to the, oh, was it? I'm just doing. I really, really liked it. But obviously, look, the two that, the two that, that get four points as well and five points are brilliant. So Julian brings in Jacket and it's got a fuck you embroidered on the inside. Another issue for the edit, the T-Tone Editor.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah, I don't know how you do that one, but what I mean also, purple's my favourite colour, that Jacket. I immediately googled it to see if I could find one. Just to have that lovely velvety purple sheen and then the flash of the fuck you. Incredible. Yeah I got the sense that the fuck you was a custom a custom board from everything's custom with Julian Clary. He doesn't shop in MnS does he? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I mean this is another example I think all of his
Starting point is 00:15:03 prizes are gonna be things he's brought from his house. And his house just sounds like an absolute lad in treasure trove of stuff. He's living such a luxurious life. I imagine he's got a valid. Yes. And all his dinner parties are served by, I don't know, swans, like train swans
Starting point is 00:15:21 that bring him all these food. Like, I just, I feel like his house must be incredible. Yeah, I think so, I think so. And this jacket is just, oh, it's fantastic. Just the idea that you could walk around and as someone leaves you don't particularly enjoy the company of, you can quickly flash that. And it's just a little win for yourself, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's amazing. It reminds me also, this is a nerdy historical thing, but in the 17th century in Japan, in the Edo period, the Emperor got very upset about ordinary people, working class people, middle class people, wearing posh people clothes, passed the law, called a sumptuary law, banning people from wearing the posh robes. And the solution to this, what people did basically, is they wore their posh clothes under their new boring clothes, and they would flash their friends, so they would open their
Starting point is 00:16:04 costs of their robes and go, ta-da, here's the real thing I want to show you. So I love the idea of flashing fashion. I think it's a really fun idea. It's very historic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously the history of opening up your clothes and flashing is not ideal, you know. It's problematic. It's problematic. Yeah, I should probably put a caveat there as a sort of a person who works on CBBC sometime? I should probably say, not all flashing is good, but the idea of opening up your jacket to pass a message, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Perhaps we could call it flashin'. Flashin'. Flashin'. There we go. There you go, we'll help you with that. We got something great out of that, Greg. Historical facts. And a lovely little pun. Yeah. We loved it jacket out of that Greg, historical facts and a lovely little pun.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We loved it jacket anyway, that's fantastic. Sue brings in, I think it's probably the opposite of a posh purple velvet jacket, a load of Greg's all mashed up onto a breadboard. As she calls it, Greg's? Greg's? Yes. The image of Greg Davis made of Greg's pastries. I don't think I've ever seen Greg react to a prize in quite that way before. That was so up his street. He was hungry and proud, wasn't he? He was thrilled and slightly turned on, I'd say. He was a rouse by his own face. Yeah, he was. I think he took his glasses off, he had to rub his eyes. Yeah, I think he's found a new fetish. He took his glasses off, he had to rub his eyes. Yeah, he's really, really into that.
Starting point is 00:17:29 He's rubbing his eyes a lot this series. His glasses coming off quite, I mean, I think the season may be noticed it, but there's quite a lot of him having to, you know, get himself ready again to go back on camera, because he's clearly having a lovely time. He's very giggly this year.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yes, yeah, and I think there's a lot of rogue elements, like you say, a lot of mavericks. And I'd imagine it can be quite tiring trying to drugle them all and keep the show together when you keep having to go back to Lucy and Sam and then Susan's just doing her own thing. And Julian's just sat there poised like a cobra, ready to just absolutely annihilate anyone who comes near them. Yeah, that's true actually. Yeah, you've got four ludicrous mavericks and then a cobra there,
Starting point is 00:18:10 it's just gonna bite you and kill you. Yeah, exactly. Well, I loved about Sue's Greg's sculpture was that the eyes were made of glue. Yeah, I wish. That was so, it's like, really not edible. Like you can eat around them, but don't eat that felt. And I think the mouth hat seemed to have some glue in it as well.
Starting point is 00:18:27 That was definitely me. Yeah. Because obviously sticking, actually sticking pastry together and onto a board was obviously much harder than she thought it was going to be. So she had to employ the use of glue, which was great. But you know, technically though, I mean, if you're going to be the gamble pedant, you know, I take on it. Technically though. I mean, if you're gonna be the Ed Gamble pedant, no one love?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yes, is it? Is it? Yeah, well, I guess she could say that she loves Greg and she loves Greg's. But do you own that really? Do you, I guess no one else owns it? I suppose she made it. She made it. She made it for the show though. I feel like I
Starting point is 00:19:06 don't know. I'm being I'm being too pernickety. I think it was a really good idea. It does feel like she had that idea and then looked for the best task to fit it into. I just want to say it feels like yeah. Yeah. That felt like that could have gone in any number of episodes. Probably yeah. But yeah. I love seeing it. It was great. And five points feels, it feels good. I don't know. Cobalt for me just made me laugh so hard. Yeah, because yeah, it just didn't go anywhere. I want to know about the Cobalt. Like, why? Why? We didn't have time for that. We've got to move on. The San Matold is story that was completely irrelevant. I do. I really do like about this is this is a miscellaneous prize category. These are ideas that they've had
Starting point is 00:19:47 that they can't fit into any other prize tasks. Maybe that's a way of doing something every series. There might be a new way of bringing in a miscellaneous prize task category, just bringing in a thing. But I also just think the drum roll adds tension, which gives you such a delightful review, as you said, when Alex did his drum roll gag, the whole music intro was perfect, but
Starting point is 00:20:08 also just there's something incredibly funny about drum roll and then someone just shouting out either confidently, co-bolts or calendar, like sort of question that there's, it's just funny either way, the lack of confidence or the full bravado, both of them work, it's lovely. I want drum rolls in my life, I just want them to be a standard thing We will speak to Alex and see if we can bring in drum rolls for the entirety of every prize task I'm alone. I'd definitely be pro So it was two points for Sam three points for Lucy four points for Susan four points of Julian as well and
Starting point is 00:20:41 Five points for Suze Greg is Cobalt and five points for Su's Greg is... Cobra. Cobra. LAUGHTER Gorg, why you still lived near Tempe, in Australia? It was so close to the flight path, so planes would go and the locals hated it. They had commissioned an artwork, and it was like a sculpture, and it was all kids with their ears, like hands over their ears, and then they changed. Tell how high their planes were flying.
Starting point is 00:21:13 When did you get the cobalt? Online. LAUGHTER And you think it's good after a drum roll because this background story of a fact in the pool. Oh, that story, yeah, everyone was telling the story. Task one. This is not a team task.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Find the secret task. You must never be in the same room as each other. You must stay in the same area until the air horn sounds. Whenever the air horn sounds, you must replace anything you are holding and change areas. Everyone must find the secret task before the task ends, your time starts now. So obviously Greg, throughout the series so far,
Starting point is 00:21:57 Alex has been hinting to the contestants in other tasks. Do you think anyone's gonna find the secret task? Have you found the secret task yet? Do you know where the secret task is? I'd say only really Sam seemed interested in that and had his suspicions arose and thought all there's the secret task. Everyone else seemed to completely ignore Alex when he brought that up. Yeah, no one else seemed to care. And Sam seemed to care a little too much. He seemed more distracted by the secret task than what he was being
Starting point is 00:22:24 said. But what I love is the moment he heard about it, he was in the room where the secret task was hidden and he immediately declared, well, it won't be in here. Yeah. It was literally right behind him. Now, the interesting thing about this as well is I'm assuming, and like I can't speak for Alex, I can't speak for the team, I'm assuming the hope at the beginning was that at least one to two people would stumble across the secret task in over the course of filming naturally.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Oh, I see. And then you'd have that really delayed because everyone has to read the secret task. So there would then be. Everyone has to read the secret task. And then there'd be someone who'd done it two months before another person. And someone who'd done it like on the
Starting point is 00:23:05 last day or whatever. Yeah, that's really interesting isn't it? Because in the end they end up collaborating in quite a charming way because you've got those two. The teams are split into, you know, we've got Susan and Sue. Well, I called them the two's and because they're two seasons. So the two's perfect. And they are so let like little kids at school who can't be separated. Yeah. Yeah. To the point, like the first thing they hear is what we've bonded, we shared a bag of knick knacks as soon as opening line. We can't be separated.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And even though they're in the light, if we cross in a corridor, can we still say hi? Yeah. It's like little girls who've gone to school. Like my daughter's just started school. And she's got a best friend. And I just feel like that's what Susan and Sue are like. That's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And then the other team don't seem to care at all. But they do come up to each other and they do help each other in the end. They do. And they do help each other. Whereas I don't know what I do. Greg, if I was honest. Oh, we know what you do. You'd be. If I found it first, you would lord it over them. You'd be extracting. For a start, I wouldn't be telling them what room it was in. I'd be walking around going, I've not found it yet actually. Not realizing it doesn't matter because I should just tell the where it is because you never know where you're going to be in the rankings because there's another team, right? So yes. And all of the points for everyone else.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah. The point distribution thing of like five points, plus five points, mine, that was that that that I mean, in the end, we'll get to it by the end. The points were meaningless. Yes. The whole thing was pointless. It was just a lovely exercise. But what was nice about it, I thought was the way that Julian became like a kind of kindly uncle, schooling his little sort of nephew. It's like, how have you tried this room? it's sort of very, it was really lovely.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Doesn't want to give it, doesn't want to just give it to him on a platter, doesn't want to tell him how to do it, just like maybe some little suggestions and eventually get there. Yeah, I mean, I obviously, I love the idea of a secret task. It feels very escape through me. And I like that. And I am sort of gutted that someone didn't just stumble across it during a different time.
Starting point is 00:25:08 It's such an interesting point. I hadn't even occurred to me, but yeah, you're right. Sam has been clearly on that. He's been on the case for a while. So, he hasn't stumbled on it. It's really, that would have changed the dynamic though. But yeah, maybe they had planned for that. But it works.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Perhaps. And then it does absolutely work. And this as worked. Yeah, it's all the same. Perhaps. And then it does absolutely work. And this as the other option, I think, is brilliant. And I have been messaging Alex and Andy asking him loads about the secret task, obviously. I think Andy D messaged me saying, do you think you had found the secret task?
Starting point is 00:25:37 I was like, yeah, absolutely. I would have found it. You tell me about the secret task. I would have been searching for it in the lunch break. Ter, Ter, in the house down, finding the secret task, and then as soon as I was on camera for the next task, I'm just going to have a look in here for no reason, and then find the secret task. Yeah, you would have been, yeah, you probably would have just torn it apart and just been
Starting point is 00:25:55 – I'd have been – bring in a sledgehammer in. Yeah. I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been –
Starting point is 00:26:04 I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – I would have been – like a little microcosm for all of Taskmaster. Like Sue looked under the table, which we know is what you have to do, like this is a serimelican thing, right, you look under a table, it's the first thing you do. And everyone sort of turned on each other or supported each other. There were petty jealousies, petty rivals, there was delight and there was charm. Julian was taking the mic out of Alex again.
Starting point is 00:26:19 He's not gonna tell you, you know, that kind of classic line. It felt like a really loving microcosm of the whole series encapsulated in this one thing and I wonder if the reason they put it quite late in the series is it felt like we've got to know these people so we can enjoy it more. Yeah I think you're right and yeah it was because it shouldn't, this one shouldn't work really should it because it's just people going room to room looking. It's like a it's the sort of task you might get at school or something
Starting point is 00:26:46 like that. It's like a treasure hunt. It's a treasure hunt. Yeah, you could absolutely get six year olds to do this and they would be like just finding the clue. But it's also got incredible moments of... I mean, for me, the thing that may be par-pout with laughter, sorry, was Lucy playing the French horn in a caravan? So no reason. So perfect. Just incredible. It was great. I mean, yeah, and you're right. The reason why, largely the reason why it works so well and it's so watchable is because
Starting point is 00:27:14 you know that, you know their characters and you cut to Sam running around trying to find the task and then you cut to Lucy sat there with a French horn just completely off with the fairies just having her own day. Really, really brilliant. And even Julian enjoyed it. He called Alex's task, he called it one of Alex's better efforts. One of your best efforts. Yes. Although as Greg pointed out, it sounded like a Bond villains or stroking a catch. One of your better efforts, Mr Bond, it does feel damning with dammit, we faint praise, isn't it? Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Let's talk about the fact that the first three people that we saw on the screen find the secret task all nominated Sam Campbell. Yeah. When did this get recorded? My question was this done early on when they haven't quite met each other and they maybe
Starting point is 00:28:05 are picking the youngest person purely on a kind of like, well, that person might be a threat because they're energetic and young and bubbly. I mean, Sam's an incredible comedian. He's obviously known for his ingenuity, so maybe they could have him as a threat. But I don't know, I couldn't figure out the psychology of it. Well, I suspect that they hadn't, well, I don't think they I couldn't figure out the psychology of it. Well, I suspect that they hadn't, well, I don't think they necessarily would have met. I mean, Susan and Sam, I think, had worked on things before.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I don't know if Susan and Sam would have met. I don't, yeah, so they might not met. Obviously, the others at all met properly with doing team tasks. But, yeah, I mean, you've got to feel gutted for Sam. I felt very sorry for him, but then it's so much better that they cut back to the studio, and he just said it's nice to be talked about.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yeah, yeah. He's got this sort of real growing confidence, which is like everyone's noticing me. Like he really felt like by the end, he was, but it was interesting people sort of, yeah, I don't know whether that was, because yet Sam and Sue weren't there, sort of people were shouting names, and I couldn't tell if that's because those were maybe front runners and people sort of, yeah, I don't know whether that was, because yet Sam and Sue weren't there, sort of people were shouting names.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And I couldn't tell if that's because those were maybe front runners and people's heads and they were trying to point off them. But Julian said he was trying to give points. So... Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, I would have been shouting a name expecting them to lose a point, I guess, or lose five points. And I would have done it with Glee, as you well know.
Starting point is 00:29:22 But your closest enemy, yeah. Yeah. But really, if they're trying to make someone lose points, then Sam's the smart choice and they didn't know that before the studio. But he is the one who's running away with it at the moment. Yeah. He's the one who's already been looking for the task anyway. It's a clear, if you were going to have to remove your strongest opponent, I think you'd go for Sam properly on paper at least.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah. I think so. There's another line as well, I also loved just another Lucy moment, where she says, a secret door. Do you think it's a real door or a secret door? It's like that's not a differentiation that means anything. A real door or a secret door? What's a secret door if it's not a real door? So that made be very happy. Yeah, everything she comes out with just perfect. Soon was the second slowest. So Sam gained a point. Susan was the slowest. So Sam gained five points. Sam was the second fastest. So Sue loses a point. Julian was the fastest. So Sam loses five points. And Lucy was the
Starting point is 00:30:23 middle. So Sue wins a special hat. So the way it all worked out is Sam loses five points and Lucy was the middle so Sue wins a special hat. So the way it all worked out is Julian got four points, Sue got four points, Susan got four points, Lucy got three points and Sam got three points. So all in all, pretty pointless. Almost nothing had changed. I think on the first round it was two, three, four, four, five, and then it's three, three, four, four, Yeah. So a waste of time for everyone. There's also, as a historian, I immediately got very excited about the poster, an episode one, you know, Taskmaster poster. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Because it's like an absolutely famous classic movie, right? It's Metropolis, which is Fritz Lang's German expressionist sci-fi classic. It sort of invents the sci-fi genre. And I was wondering, why've been gone with that. I feel like it's quite a good analogy for the series because this series, I think, is we've had the most rebellious cast, I think. They are not always entirely intending to be rebellious. Occasionally Lucy is just a way with her own little, sort of, you know, getting on with her own little stuff. Julian clearly does not care for it in terms of that.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm not going to put any effort. Sam's a cheeky scamp. Sue enjoys trying to get around the rules a bit. I think Susan goes full chain bastard whenever she can. I feel like they're quite a rebellious cast pushing on the power dynamics. And Metropolis is an amazing movie. It's about the work that's rising up against the powerful rich. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Basically the super rich live in these sort of really high rise mega luxury skyscrapers and the workers live underground and they rise up in rebel and there's a robot who can be made to look like a woman. And so this golden robot that Greg's face has meant to look like, it convinces people that she's a woman and causes chaos and mayhem in the city. And people are dying and there's murder and people turn on each other.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I feel like it's quite a good analogy for this series where we had Susan setting the fake task for Sam and then we can make a manipulation, the undercover, the who can you trust, people pushing back against the man. I don't know, I feel like that poster was chosen for a reason. Maybe it's just a good poster, but I was. No, I think they'll almost certainly be a reason
Starting point is 00:32:34 that they've gone with that. And I think that's right. I mean, it's, you know, people rebelling against the sort of shadowy authority figure as well. Yeah, that makes perfect sense for Tarsmaster. And the amount of times I've described Alex Horner as a sexy golden lady robot. You know, this, this, you say sexy, I say sexless. No, yeah, he's got, yeah, he's a sort of C3PO. No, he's, I don't know, it's just
Starting point is 00:33:00 interesting because obviously the power dynamic is Greg is the one with power but actually on this series it's Alex who's taking quite a lot of the the brunt of Julian's you know Sue at one point shout damn yours and tactical vortex like there's a kind of Alex is the bad guy in quite a lot of this series and Greg is sort of geekily king who actually isn't the he's not being mean to anyone so it's kind of interesting well Alex he's he Alex, he's enjoying Alex. Well, you're actually Alex. Yeah, Alex is getting it in the neck, but he doesn't seem to mind that much. His task's not getting done properly as long as Alex is having a horrible time while they do. That's very interesting, Greg. You always bring a point of view that absolutely no other guests would bring,
Starting point is 00:33:39 so we appreciate that. Don't you dare apologise for that. I thought that, but, Alex, you both got in for Sam Campbell. We appreciate that. Don't you dare apologise for that. What? How have you both got in for Sam Campbell? What's... Right, did you hear the audience react when you both said Sam Campbell? I didn't want to pick anyone. I don't want to pick anyone. And then Alex made me, and I can't for legal reasons talk about how. But it was...
Starting point is 00:33:59 You also throw it very slow, then. You might have given him points. We don't know. Sam, I only feel right, I should get your comment on both women turning on you likes nakes. Come on. Yeah, it's just exciting to know people are talking about me. LAUGHTER APPLAUSE Today's episode of the Taskmaster podcast is sponsored by... Kozy. Who are Kozyzy I can hear you asking well
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Starting point is 00:36:34 Walk under a ladder or put the ladder back in the shed. Find a lucky penny or put exactly 13 pounds on the lucky plate. Either spill the salt or throw the salt all over your shoulder onto the pasture in the caravan, either open the umbrella inside the shed or close these five umbrellas, toss five heads on a coin in a row. Each toss of the coin must be a standard coin toss. Tell me Greg, no one else seemed to have done. Have you heard of a fortune trail before? I've heard of a lucky trail which obviously is the hair down to one's genitals. That's a different phrase, isn't it? It wasn't complete the lucky trail.
Starting point is 00:37:12 No, that would be very different. No, I hadn't heard of a fortune trail. I was in Sam's camp here of going, what is it? What is it, yes. Yeah. But a lot of fun, a lot of fun this task. But is it... I don't know how you thought about it.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It felt to be a little bit under, not enough jeopardy. It felt like the jeopardy was superstition jeopardy. Like it's easier to do all the things that were meant to be superstitious. Walk under the ladder, open umbrella and doors. They were, the easier things than doing the other things. So it felt like the jeopardy was,
Starting point is 00:37:42 are you willing to anger the gods? Yeah, that's interesting. I don't, my thought was that you, you could do the end thing, you could do the toy, the coin toss quicker. If on the previous ones you did the option that was slightly more effort. Yeah, okay. So everyone else is just trying to do it quickly. So they were going under the ladder. They were Julian didn't. Julian didn't. Julian hold it into the shed with mallets. Yeah. But spilling the salt is an example or just closing the five umbrellas so they didn't have to, but if they'd gone inside the shed or they'd gone to throw the, throw the salt in the past that they would have found a lucky penny that would have sorted them out later on,
Starting point is 00:38:25 unless you should remember. Sure, okay, yeah, that makes sense. There was, there were several lucky pennies weren't there, but I think the one I was sure was the easiest to find. Yeah, definitely, but there was one near the pasta and there's one above them in the door as well. Yeah, that's a trickier one, I think, to see, because you don't look over a door, were you?
Starting point is 00:38:39 I mean, that's, or up, I never look up, great. No, I mean, I wouldn't, you know, but, but it felt to me that this one was an interesting, I don't know, there felt like a psychology going on here because Susan said she is superstitious, but she's like, I just want to win. So she very quickly was sort of happy to go with it. But it was kind of interesting to see how they solve
Starting point is 00:38:56 these quite simple problems. They weren't, they weren't taxing problems. No, not at all. I mean, like you say, Julian just lobs the ladder full pal into the shed, spills the salt, and manages to toss five heads in a row in four minutes and 12. Now, this to me sums up Julian's entire time on taskmaster. He doesn't seem bothered about any of it, and he does it by far in the most relaxed fashion. But he just seems to come out on top quite
Starting point is 00:39:23 a lot. Yeah, I feel like there's some sort of lucky thing that happened at birth. He was dipped in some sort of magical river. And ever since, everything's just come up, swimming for me, because he's just, yeah, he's effortlessly graceful, having a nice time, mocking Alex, doing all the things he's meant to do, the absolute bare minimum, good time.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Bye, it's amazing. He's just so languid and just chill. Whereas Sue is running around. Shout out to you. I mean, I love Sue's, like her panicky run. Shout out to you know, Damier's syntactical vortex. I love when she tripped over carrying the salt.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Because that looked very good. I don't know if that was a real trip or a comedy-pratful trip, but it looked like a real trip. I think it was a comedy-pratful, but it was very, very well done. It was just when she was off to the pastor, and then she just dropped it all. So funny. But you're right, the comparison of there to energies is great, because she's just chaos,
Starting point is 00:40:18 and he just wanders through, and manages to... I think Alex said it was a 3% chance of a 5 heads in a row and on the third time he got it. He was like a sort of Darren Brown. He was just sort of it's a good show. It's like he hit me times everyone when I am going to throw five heads in a row. Yeah. I mean, that's amazing. And then you've got the exact opposite of Lucy just classic Lucy looking for the two
Starting point is 00:40:43 headed coin. She's sussed out. needs to be a two-headed coin Which is only looked at one side of the coin. I only just like right organized all the coin. She's like no, I don't think there's any here They're all just laid out on one side Alex is so funny. You're only looking at one side. It's just so funny. It's so funny I love I mean loved it, but she finally, she finds a double-headed coin, and this is, I think, one of the biggest laughs of the whole series to be so far.
Starting point is 00:41:09 She's so confident. She's got the double-headed coin. She's like, right, here we go. She knows what she's doing. She's looking in one direction, flex the coin, it goes off in completely in a different direction. And it goes so far.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So far. Like she holds it. And then picks it up. Does it again? Like, that's not a lesson. Third far. Like she hurls it. And then picks it up. Does it again? Like that's a learner lesson. Third time, so I'll use it on the plint. It immediately drops it off the plint.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah, it's so funny. It's so funny. And she, yeah, she's never really flipped her coin before. She's never had to learn. Because there's always been a boy to do it. This was been, she's got a man to do it for. Yeah, a man to do it for. And also this is something I didn't bring up with the being.
Starting point is 00:41:46 A game I play with my wife every week is when the credits start and we see the name of the episode. Yeah. My wife and I guess who has said the quives. That's a great game. That is a really fun game. Yeah, it's a really fun game. And when I saw the line, I've never packed a boot.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I was thinking, well that's Julian Clary. He never packed a boot. His wallet would do it for him. So I was thinking this is a clip. And then also, also, you could definitely see that being a very solid in your endo as well. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Shall I bend over? Was he? Yeah, he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love Lucy's sort of really, really. Just, she had the two-headed coin, yet still it was an absolute uphill battle. Yeah. Absolutely amazing. Really? really, she had the two-headed coin, yet still it was an absolute uphill battle for her.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah, absolutely amazing. But also, she puts seven pounds on the plinth, instead of 13 pounds, and her logic, I've written it down, she says, I've put seven pounds in a penny, because if it cancels it out, if this penny isn't lucky, they've still got seven pounds. And it's like, who is this person inheriting seven pounds? They've still about seven pounds.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Don't worry about it. Paul Lucy, yeah, she goes through all that. I mean, she's so slow anyway. She finds a lucky penny and only manages to complete that aspect of it in 11 minutes. But then hasn't done one of the earlier tasks. So it's not points. Paul Sue as well.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I mean, Sue finds the lucky penny. She finds a lucky penny to put on the thing, but then she doesn't realize it's double headers. And then ends up doing that absolutely insane thing where she decides if she gets on the floor, she sort of tosses her head around like she's got a main and that counts as a coin toss, even though it specifically says it's not getting round the toss because it says each toss of the coin must be a standard coin toss. She's doing a shurgar impression. She's doing black beauty down on the floor, doing like a weird horse press up. It's just absolutely amazing. I love it. It's such an insight into her brilliant brain that she thinks, this is a time-saving device, I'll get on the floor and I'll toss my head
Starting point is 00:43:45 five times in a row. I can see where she's going with it because obviously like Taskmaster has built on those little things that people are trying to get around the task, seeing spotting gaps in the task that they can squeeze through. Absolutely. But this was not one of those. That task was pretty well walled off in terms of what you could do and she still ended up on the floor tossing ahead around like an idiot notepoints and then you get Sam who I think It's just his classic line. This is gonna take all my life. It's just I Love the way he stresses it because all my life is a phrase. It's a song by the foe fight
Starting point is 00:44:21 It's it's not a weird phrase, but the way he says it, all my life as if he's got, like he's looking at how much life he's got left, and he's saying, it'll take all my life, look it's, it's like a finite resource he can see in front of him, it's so funny. And he's so, he's so pathetic when he says it as well, he's so sort of desperate, he's really worried, he's gonna take all of his life. But yeah, just, I mean, finds the lucky penny straight in the pocket, doesn't check it, that it might be double-sided, and then just takes, so it goes the long way around with the coin toss.
Starting point is 00:44:51 But still, six minutes, 51, quite far behind Julian, but not that bad, not that bad at all. There's also a lovely little bit of some, quite early on in the studio, I think he just says, is Brian Blessed real? Oh, wow. The concept of Brian Blessed. I love the fact that he thinks someone would invent Brian Blessed. What we need is a Brian Blessed character.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Is he real? Oh, wow, that's amazing. So it was five points to Julian with his very relaxed sort of stroll towards the victory. Four points for Sam, three points for Susan, and of course, sadly, not points for Lucy and not points for Sue. And Sue gets her vengeance because she suddenly flashes her jackets, her flash and fuck you! It's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:45:42 It's brilliant because she will have thought of that and then had to make that happen, and it's so worth it. Yeah, she faked a wee, she got someone behind one of the crew members to sort of glue it on, probably. Yeah, glue it on for her, yeah. Perfect. So first, for Julian, that's the first time we've seen you directly threaten Alex. LAUGHTER
Starting point is 00:45:59 heterosexual male banter. LAUGHTER And what I wrote about you, Sue, is you lost your god damn mind. LAUGHTER Do I allow Sue's head tossing? Hmm. It did say they were meant to be standard coin tosses. OK.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Listen, I've travelled, I've been lucky enough to travel a lot. Er... Just because we toss a coin in the West like this. Yeah. We all know that in Peru, that's how they do it. LAUGHTER Toss three, this is an amazing task. the coin in the West like this. You all know that in Peru, that's how they do it. LAUGHTER Task three, this is an amazing task. I do also, before I say it, I think this is one of the hardest tasks
Starting point is 00:46:33 that's been on the series so far. Yeah, I didn't fully understand it. Yeah, convince a child you're asleep. You must either have a nap-lasting one minute with your face visible throughout. During this nap, you must snort and sleepwalk. Or you must have a nap- lasting one minute when you're not in bed at all but the child thinks you are during this nap you must snort and
Starting point is 00:46:49 sleep talk most convincing sleeper wins you have a maximum of 20 minutes your time starts now it's a tricky one to wrap your head around this isn't it? I couldn't fathom I looked at it and went what what am I doing here because one of them is you've got to be sleep walking. I was like, fine. But then the other one is not, you've got to not be in the bed. So it felt different. It felt like a different challenge somehow.
Starting point is 00:47:14 One feels like a sort of my in performance. And one feels like a kind of, almost like a heist almost like you're trying to distract someone that you're not there. But also, I would say, and look, we love all the tasks on taskmaster, but I think this is hard, this makes it hard. Surely that child, Flossy, is under the impression that none of them are asleep,
Starting point is 00:47:34 because they're all trying to convince her that they're asleep. Or what they told her is what I wanted to say. That's literally what I was gonna bring up. Is it like some sort of like, some of these people are sleeping and some of them are not sleeping. Yes. They must decide what is happening here.
Starting point is 00:47:48 So she believes at least one of them is sleeping, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's very, I mean, look, this was really an acting challenge, let's be honest. And obviously Susan does very well because she gets out. She went to Radha. She went to Radha. She's been 30 grand.
Starting point is 00:48:04 So you'd hope that this works 30 grand maybe In fact not just Rada the Royal Academy of dramatic arts. Yeah She's not even abbreviating this is proper. No way And it is it's very convincing certainly for the child her just standing for a sleepwalk because it's easy to go too far I'd say Julian definitely goes too far because he gets up and goes, walks straight out all the way back round and then walks back in again, which I've never seen anyone sleepwalk, but as far as I'm aware, that's not how it works. It felt very, very forced to come straight back in, didn't it? Yeah, like a kind of thing. I love that Lucy says she's a good actress and then obviously it's terrible of this.
Starting point is 00:48:42 But yeah, I think Lucy's is pretty poor. I think Julian's is too obviously a performance. Yeah, I mean, Lucy's, Lucy's is incredible because she's sleepwalking and sleep talking. She doesn't need sleep talk. That was an on her options. That's right. She doesn't need to say anything.
Starting point is 00:49:01 But she's saying, oh, time to get up. Because sleep talking doesn't often reference getting up. She's saying things that someone would say when they've actually woken up. And the child notices her eyes are open at one point. Yeah, that is a serious problem for trying to convince a child, isn't it? Go with the standard eyes closed.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Oh, eyes closed. That is universally agreed symptom of sleep is eyes closed. It's one of the child looking at Alex like, oh, you kidding me? It's the most devastating look. It's like a once second, just a gentle raising of the eyes, as if to say, this is what you bring me. This is what you bring me. I'm in a work with this. Yeah. You know I've given up my time for this, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah. I was going to say she gave up her time for free, but she did not give up my time for free. No, she did not give up. No. Well, sort of briefly about Su's, because Su was just enjoying it in a sort of, in like a home alone way, having a... Yes, it is very home alone, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:50:09 Very home. Aini-ly operated sort of a grocery doll. Right. Stick up the bar and try and rotate it to the bed, yeah. Yeah, it's home alone, it's Ferris Bueller's day off. It's that. It's cheeky, cheeky 80s person, pretending they're still in bed, sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:50:25 It's great. The child is not convinced sadly because you can't really get a natural body movement if you're stood out stung with a broomstick, I don't think. No, and I think humans don't tend to rotate that much. I mean, I'm not sure. I toss and turn in my sleep, Greg, but I don't, you know, I don't just keep moving. It's not a 360 rotation, is it? You're not screwing through that. Yeah, it's not going to work that way. But, um, but you're right. The kind of 80s vibe of trying to convince your parents during your room,
Starting point is 00:50:52 but actually you're going out to the prom dance that I like that. It did feel very breakfast club or something. Very nostalgic. I like Sam. I mean, come on, Sam. I mean, you've got to give him, uh give him, you gotta give him the props, right? He identified a weakness in the system. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And he went with a good number for a child. The hundred pounds for a young child is a billion pounds. It's like it's the most money they've ever heard. She could not believe it. She kept coming back to it and going, well, Sam really give me a hundred pounds. Oh, I, I, philosophy is my favourite thing about this episode. She was phenomenal. She's, she, like she had no time for any of Lucy Bullshit, but she was very quickly tempted and interested
Starting point is 00:51:37 in the, the hundred pound offer. But she had a certain amount of left cynicism, there was a certain element of, do you think he'll give me the £100? Oh yeah, she was up on the scammers, definitely. She knew not to necessarily trust Sam. As soon as she saw the flamingo as well, her eyes are just like, okay, what the hell's going on here? We're not dealing with a normal person here. But very funny from Sam, and lovely that someone did something completely different. I thought that was really really good But I also loved sorry, but I also just loved Sam's Vocal note to the to the child as he called it wasn't a sort of warm and generous Hello, I'm Sam and I'm trying to win this show and I can offer you 100 he went
Starting point is 00:52:20 I'll get a production company to contact your parents. I'll give you £100, thank you, child. Like, it was so... Almost like a threat. I was, it was so, like, devoid of any kind of warmth. It was so funny. But you don't need warmth if you've got a hundred quid, right? Flossy doesn't care. She wants that 100.
Starting point is 00:52:39 What we should find out is because Sam does win five points here, did Flossy get a hundred pounds? Oh, just as Flossy. Yeah. I hope Flossy got a hundred pounds. Normally, if there's a child involved in a taskmaster task, quite often they will be a relation of one of the production crew. It's going to say, I feel like possibly this child is not getting a hundred pounds
Starting point is 00:53:03 because someone in the family is like no, but But I love very unfair. I think we're gonna make this happen We're gonna find out where the philosophy got her hundred pounds and we are and she should get repeat fees I think she should get residual repeat fees if they're putting this out twice You know the see-time version. I think she should be getting I think her agent needs to be on the phone to make sure that she's getting everything that's owed to her. I think she should get £100 every time the episode is shown. Yes, thank you. Good. And that includes streaming.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Yeah, but also very quickly. What I love about Tarsamund is that occasionally they bring a child in, I mean, Syri's eight, the famous one, entertain this toddler, which I absolutely loved. What I like about that dynamic is you kind of think, oh, it's so different having to entertain a child. It's basically entertain Greg. Like, the child and Greg are the same. They are kind of a whimsical, unpredictable. They can be bought. They can be manipulated.
Starting point is 00:53:53 But sometimes they're not having any of it. And sometimes they're in the mood. It's the same dynamic. I love that. You've been in an eight year old or a three year old. And you're basically still trying to impress Greg. Yes. Well, that's the interesting thing. I'm extremely happy for Rosemar Tefeo being the new host of Junior Taskmaster, but I wonder if they ever thought about just bringing in a child to host it. Who would he go to? Who would be your celebrity child?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Macauley Culkin, he's probably a bit old now. He's probably a bit old now. No, I think she's just... I think just a child that looks like Greg. I mean, they'd be hard to track down, but I think we should do it. Six foot two. Andy. Six foot two eight year olds.
Starting point is 00:54:31 That's what you should've brought in. It was five points for Susan, a legitimate five points for Susan, a sneaky five points for Sam. Three points for Julian, which is amazing. I cannot believe he got three points. Yeah, I don't understand how that worked. It felt like Sue should have got the three points and Julian should have got the two.
Starting point is 00:54:52 But there we go. That's what Greg went with. Sue gets the two points and Lucy, I think deservedly gets the one points there. Hello, child. Listen here. All you have to do is say that this is the most convincing sleeper. Seriously, say the yellow one.
Starting point is 00:55:09 The yellow bin. I'm going to get the production company to contact your parents. I'll give you 100 pounds. I'm going to figure out how to get it to you. 100 pounds if you say that on the most convincing sleeper. Thank you, child. Let's talk about the studio task. Mime the proverb on your card.
Starting point is 00:55:28 There will be three minute long rounds. You must be waving at each other throughout your attempt, but you can make a single noise if you want best mimeers win. This was fun to watch, fun to interact with, fun to guess along with at home. I love that they probably thought, it'd be fun to do a proverb mining thing, and then someone else might have said, but that doesn't work for Taskmaster because that is just charades we're doing there. I was going to say this is so Victorian parlor game, isn't it? This is like tea time with
Starting point is 00:55:58 grandma. It feels like a sort of daytime TV show you'd see on like, I don't know, Channel 4 and the 90s. It's really simple, so they've gone, right daytime TV show you'd see on like, I don't know, channel four and the 90s. It's really simple. So they've gone, right, okay, you've got to be waving all the time and random noises need to be added in. Great. And that gives Greg the opportunity to name the random noises, which you can see he's really enjoying saying, you know, steam train falling off a mountain. Yeah, just great. Is it? A horse. Yeah, clip, cl Yeah, clip-clopping horse.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And it does, again, I think we're proving at this point that Sue and Susan might be in taskmaster history, the dream team. I think they're tightly on the same page. They, honestly, I feel like they were somehow, they've got some sort of telekinesis or some sort of link psychy bond because they just seem to have been immediate mega friends and then they seem to share a
Starting point is 00:56:49 brain because yeah, the twosons as I'm going to keep calling them and they're just seem to like that final round where they nail it with like one second to go. It's glorious. You can see Sue desperately trying to work her way through the kind of, it's like you it's so lovely it's so so lovely because the other teams did really well the team of three It's done really well. Yeah, I mean especially is I think Sometimes you look at salmon Lucy and you think their brains are operating somewhere else But it comes to games like this and you're like oh no actually they're they're properly on the on the button They know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah, by this point, I don't know whether the I want to win vibes have started to set in because we're quite late into the series. We haven't really talked about the competitive spirit because we're not really seeing it, we can wake up, but I wonder if there's a little hint of, oh, we're getting a bit closer now. I mean, I see it in Sam to the extent that I think I saw it in the first
Starting point is 00:57:47 episode because he's the one who's constantly trying to think outside the box on the tasks and he's trying to think his way around tasks. I think he's the only one really trying to do that, apart from Su's head tossing on the coin. But I don't know whether that Sam being competitive or Sam just wanting to do something different because that's what he feels he should do. Yeah, it's his standard instinct. Yeah, but we haven't got anything like the kind of Dara and Siramilican energy where you
Starting point is 00:58:15 had like genuine this matters and everyone, you could see them kind of. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're all friends. Actually, I want to win this. No, there's none of that. No, I mean, Julie hasn't even started. But that's... If he wins this show, Julie won't be like, oh, really? OK.
Starting point is 00:58:32 OK, so that means I have to come back. I have to do another one, do I? Interesting. Yeah. No, you're right, you're right. We haven't had any of that sort of eggy tension and competitive stuff yet, but maybe who knows? There's two episodes left.
Starting point is 00:58:47 There's always time for that. So at the end of that live task, it was Sue and Susan getting five points each and Sam, Julian and Lucy getting a generous, but I also think well deserved three points each. The end of the episode, Lucy, another low scoring episode for Lucy's seven points. Sue on 11 points. Sam on 15 points, Julian on 15 points as well. And Susan taking home the episode with 17 points in the series. Sam still out in front, I think you know in these two
Starting point is 00:59:22 episodes who knows what's going to happen. But Sam's on 135, Julian's on 123, it's between those two, you might think at the moment, because Susan's on 109, Lucy on 106, and Susan on 106 as well. So it feels like it's down to Sam and Julian up at the top. Yeah, I think I'd put my money on Sam because he seems like a very consistent performer. Even if he's not having the best episode,
Starting point is 00:59:44 he seems to be kind of pretty good at the game, getting the kind of B minus standard week in week out. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right there because yeah, even in this episode, he comes joint second, you know. So it's, I mean, he's certainly ahead at the moment, but there could be a last minute verse from Julian, we do not know. Greg, thank you so much for coming back on the Taskmaster podcast. You are welcome. It's always a pleasure. Anytime, of course.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Thank you. We will test your theory on you, no matter how busy you're being, dropping everything. We're going to wait until there's some really, really big stuff. You're going to get a movie announced or something. We're going to wait until your mid-production, and then we're going to contact you to come back on the podcast. And I'll see the bat signal in the sky, and I'll throw down my pen, and I'll be like,
Starting point is 01:00:28 I've got to go! Do it without me, guys. I'm need to do it. We always ask our guests to rate their experience on the podcast between one and five points in the style of the Taskmaster. We hope you've enjoyed yourself, but please give it a point score.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Oh, well, I'm not going to give anything less into five because I've had a lovely time. And I, you know, my performance is probably underwhelming, but I did try a point score. Oh, well, I'm not gonna give anything less than to five because I've had a lovely time. And I, you know, my performance is probably underwhelming, but I did try to get slower. I feel like I didn't do two speed this time. Greg, don't you dare, don't you ever talk about your performance in a derogatory way on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:57 It was fantastic as always. In fact, I don't, I rarely do this, but I'm gonna do it. Greg, you get five. Oh, thanks, that means so much. Five points, five point guest. Thank you very much for coming back on the pod, Greg. We'll see you again soon.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Thanks very much, bye. Thanks so much, bye. I told you, no one else is talking about that metropolis thing like Greg is very very exciting stuff and Greg of course We'll be back on the taskmaster podcast another time maybe for the next series who knows Thank you so much to Greg for coming in next week. We will have a new special guest talking about Series 16 episode nine of taskmaster make sure you watch it at 9 p.m. On channel four every Thursday and come straight back here to listen to the Podcast that dissects it all bit by bit. Thank you very much for listening. We'll see you again next week. Goodbye! Imagine how lonely you can feel to be facing mental illness or addiction on your own.
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