Taskmaster The Podcast - Ep 28. Sarah Kendall - S11 Ep.5
Episode Date: April 15, 2021On this week's podcast Ed is joined by fellow comedian and Series 11 contestant Sarah Kendall. It's mid point through the series and the pair drill down in to all the tasks on this latest episode. Exp...ect some questions around Sarah's bee uniform, Mike's sex symbol status and why Sarah thought she'd be more of a Jamali and less of a rule follower. You can watch Series 11 of Taskmaster each Thursday on Channel 4 at 9pm.Get in touch with Ed and future guests:taskmasterpodcast@gmail.com Visit the Taskmaster Youtube channelwww.youtube.com/taskmaster For all your Taskmaster goodies visit www.taskmasterstore.com Taskmaster the podcast is produced by Daisy Knight for Avalon Television Ltd Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello and welcome to the Taskmaster podcast, or as the cool kids call it, TMP.
TMP!
Yes, very excited to have you here with us.
Of course, on the Taskmaster podcast, we talk about episodes of the TV show Taskmaster in punishing detail.
We go back, we look at historic episodes.
We're obviously in series 11 of Taskmaster at the moment, so we've been going back to the beginning and plugging our way through those.
But right now we're in series 11, so we are covering that up to date, up to the minute news.
Think of this like the news. So today we will be talking about series 11 episode 5 of Taskmaster we're officially
halfway through the series it is going so quickly and today our special guest is current Taskmaster
contestant Sarah Kendall Sarah Kendall guys she's so far in the lead at the moment she won three out
of the first four episodes that is incredible we've not seen a
lead like this since Lou Sanders in series eight I guess had a pretty big lead at this point but
is Sarah gonna hold on to it is she gonna throw it all away it's genuinely exciting because you've
got Mike who's looking dangerous so far I feel like he could sneak up you know and Jamali who
knows that guy's a mystery right that guy is a mystery he looks like
he doesn't care but deep down i can see a deep burning yearning that's right a burning yearning
that guy wants to win and i feel like he's got the chops to do it and charlotte's there as well
and also lee so uh it's it's been an amazing series so far i can't wait to chat to sarah about it
uh quick roundup uh something happened two weeks ago on the podcast uh we couldn't cover it in last
week's episode because we'd recorded both of those in advance uh it was about episode three of series
11 we spoke to katherine parkinson of course wonderful guest and we both came to the conclusion
that mike's prize task was genuine.
So if you remember the episode, Mike said he ordered a shocking glass statuette from a local artist.
And it was described as, I think, a robin in flagrante or something. It was a sort of wildlife, quite sexual scene.
And it got smashed in transit into lots of glass um myself and katherine
both took that at face value because we're trusting lovely people uh i got a lot of tweets
afterwards saying it was clearly a joke um so yes i'm an idiot apparently if you look at the
delivery slip it's clearly a joke something that mike's made up and looking back on it even if you
don't look at the delivery slip it's clearly a joke I texted Mike Wozniak about it uh he he said uh-oh has someone made a
fool of themselves he really he really rubbed it in uh but then made me feel slightly better
by bringing up this point ah but remember there's a comedian out there who did a joke on national
television and quite a lot of people didn't realize it was a joke that comedian has some
hard questions for himself too so there we go we're both we're both in the wrong sorry
about that mike uh bad luck you are now officially a comedian in inverted commas the worst thing you
can be on twitter uh don't forget uh you can watch taskmaster on all four go and catch up with the
series so far go and watch old episodes make taskmaster
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don't forget if taskmaster is a little bit rude you know mike tried to bring in a rude statue i'm
glad that was smashed because you know it still could have made it onto taskmaster bleeped it's
this family friendly safe version of the taskmaster episodes that is also available on all four if you
want to watch it with all your children or your easily offended grandmother and grandfather so let's crack on and chat to the wonderful
Sarah Kendall about Taskmaster series 11 episode 5
welcome Sarah Kendall to the Taskmaster podcast thank Thank you so much. Thanks for having me, Ed Gamble.
It's our pleasure. You're a current contestant, Series 11 Taskmaster.
Very exciting. How are you feeling now the series is going out?
We're in the midst of it now.
Are you getting a lot of messages about the series of people contacting you about it?
Yeah, but the overwhelming fame of the messages is just
hair um that's i'm not joking that is pretty much like 90 of the feedback that i'm getting
to the point where you could have just put my hair on the show like on a broom and like i feel
i feel strangely objectified um that doesn't really matter what happens it's just like oh
wow you've got so much hair like that's just that's just is it is it like a qualitative judgment on your hair
or is it literally you've got so much hair or are people just tweeting you the word hair
it's quantitative it's you have so much hair yeah it's not even it's a nice color or it's a nice
cut it's just you're hairy that's actually what it is you are a huge woman seems to be what most people are
pointing out like i don't know i think that seems broadly positive yeah i mean i've had worse we've
all had worse on twitter yeah it can go it can go a lot darker than that i mean i'll take you're
hairy oh yeah i'll take it you've got good hair you've got a nice head of hair yeah it's all right
i mean again a lot of it at the moment.
That's great.
Yeah, at the time we're recording this,
barbers have just opened again.
So I'm getting in there on Thursday.
But yeah, there's a lot.
I don't know.
That's a good look.
I'd go with it.
I love it floating around.
It's difficult to manage.
There's a little bit of the back that just sort of kicks up.
It sort of looks a bit like a mullet.
So I need to take that off.
Mullets are back, mate.
Mullets are back.
Yeah, that's true.
Maybe I'll stick with it. Maybe. mullet so i'm i need i need to take that off back mate mullets are back yeah that's true maybe i'll
stick with it maybe um were you uh were you a fan of taskmaster before you did the show had you seen
a lot of it before you filmed it i um oh i'll be honest i kind of felt um like um it was like i i
generally when i do because i've got kids and i like my days and if I have an hour of time to watch TV,
I don't feel like watching my friends on a game show.
Yes, yeah, fair enough.
Because it is generally just the people that you work with.
And you're like, well, if I'm going to watch Breaking Bad
or my friends roll an egg off a table with their nose,
I'll watch Breaking Bad.
Like I don't have the yeah and so um but i was aware of
it being the sort of show that all the people who'd done it loved it so everyone who'd done it
had said oh my god you've got to do taskmaster it's great it's really fun everyone had quite
had walked away with such a positive experience like the sort of backstage chat about taskmaster
um so when it was offered, I said yes,
just because so many people who I knew had loved it
and had a great experience.
And then part of the homework, of course, was, you know,
I'd better watch this show before I appear on it.
And I loved it.
Like it's amazing how much you invest in, you do,
you just start to care.
And it's this inexplicable thing that if you give
a human goal posts we go well those are the goal posts i i don't know if it's our education system
that yeah you're so yeah i know exactly what you mean because almost watching other people do the
tasks you think that's a weird that's a weird task that's a weird thing to get someone to do
but when you're on the receiving end of it you do do just look at the task and go, right, we'll get on with that.
Yes, and I have to do this to the best of my abilities.
Yeah.
I can't get over what a good girl.
I'd read the question like six times and make sure I'd understood it.
Don't start the clock yet.
I've got to read this.
It was absolutely this Victorian examination system where you go,
I have to get this right.
Otherwise I'm in some sort of trouble.
And did you not, did you not expect to be like that?
No, I knew that would be me to a T.
That's London to a brick.
I'm like, yeah.
You know, if you give me the parameters of the thing that has to get done,
I'm going to try really hard to do it really well
yeah and i was watching jamali who's like a rock star who just goes like
oh halfway through i just lost my patience and just decided to fuck shit up
oh what never in my life never in my life have i even thought that was that what you're like at
school as well do you think it plays out on taskmaster that what you were like at school as well? Do you think it plays out on Taskmaster what you were like at school?
Completely.
You stuck to the rules.
Absolutely.
Miss Hospital Corners.
I mean, like just, you know, I'm just trying really hard all the time.
Great nickname.
Yeah, thanks.
I get a bit, not as, I don't know, I think you're a bit more,
maybe it's just because of your musical tastes,
I think that you're a bit more dangerous, but that might be a misdirection.
But you seem to be quite task orientated as well.
I watched your series.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I do like,
I like to stick to the rules
because I feel like that's the quickest way to win.
Yes.
There is an extreme amount of focus
watching you do tasks.
You are so,
you're so focused
and almost to the extent
that when Alex asks you a question, you so focused and almost to the extent that when Alex
asks you a question you like look up to answer the question you look like you might attack him
just because he's sort of interrupted your train of thought I'm also generally trying to understand
what's being asked of me did you I don't know if that's a if I like I I don't know if I if I have
some sort of processing inability with words and understanding, like maybe it's some form of dyslexia or something that I'm not aware of,
but I really struggled to read the task and immediately 360 degrees,
what was being asked of me.
Well,
they do.
I think they do get more and more complicated.
And also there's bits of language in there deliberately designed to trip
you up as well.
I mean,
there's a,
there's a couple coming up in this episode that we're going to talk about um i mean especially i mean let's jump ahead very quickly
especially when it comes to the making the costume for the bee you immediately assumed
that you were supposed to be making a beekeeper's costume for the bit three of the five of us did
yeah three of us when i'm in a beekeeper costume you've asked me to make a uniform. It's a bee.
Yeah.
And I think right at the beginning of the task,
because I just watched that episode now,
and right at the beginning I went, oh, I've just assumed it's a beekeeper.
Like I'd sort of realised that my brain had made a link
that simply wasn't there.
Yeah.
Really interesting, the psychology of it.
But that must be something to do with the language of the task, right?
Because if three of you assumed that's what or three of you definitely
had that first thought you thought well i'll definitely make a beekeeper's costume for it
it's interesting when you taskmaster shows you what the route one is in the weirdest situations
and it turns out when you're asked to make a uniform for a bee the majority of people will
make a beekeeper's uniform which is nuts yeah there is more sense
that lee mack made it into beevil kenevil yeah you can give if you could give and also the cruelty
of making a bee a beekeeper like yeah that's such a we're gonna get to that because you turned into into something even more uh i went really dark really dark i mean in my head in my head it was
like some weird prison situation that was abusive like yeah it was like the stanford prison experiment
yeah yeah absolutely yeah i you've got one b you've got one b to be in charge of the other b's
and then the power's immediately gone to their head.
Yeah.
I wonder if I'm that guy, though.
I wonder if, you know, when they did that cycle.
Yeah, exactly.
Like if I would be the prison guard who instantly was like,
drop down and give me 30.
I said, give me 30.
What the hell?
27.
You can stop at 27.
So I think I might actually unravel within the first seven minutes
of a test like that.
Immediately, as soon as you put the prison guard hat on.
Yeah, yeah, completely.
So you'd obviously heard from other people
that it was a good experience doing Taskmaster.
Did that then play out for you?
Did you have that good experience while you were doing it?
You seem like you're having a good time so far.
I had such a lovely time.
It was such a...
I mean, that's also the beauty of joining a show
when it's on season 11.
They're such a well-oiled machine.
And they really get what the beauty of the show is.
Like there is that sort of, I do think it's uniquely British.
I can't see, I mean, not that I've worked extensively in America or anything, but
it just seems to me that there is something about, I think that's what I, I think the way British
people and, and a lot of my friends are like this, this sort of games, doing games and pointless
games and silly games. It's, and embracing that, completely embracing the stupidity of it and really trying
hard and the the whole team have just absolutely got why this show has been such a success and you
sort of you walk into a really happy set and i've known greg and alex for years so i felt you know
i felt really like you know comfortable with them in the studio and also all the people that you're
working with you know you you know each other like you've sort of worked together for a long time so well I didn't know
Jamali that well and actually I'm going against everything I've just said now I'd only just met
Charlotte when we did the show but we hit it off and became friends really quickly so it was just
a really it was such a pleasant working environment um there's that shared thing I guess as well is
even if you haven't met people
you know that you've been through the exact same situation doesn't share that thing you know no
one no one shares the having to make a uniform for a b apart from you five no one's ever done
that before no that's very true and i think also just the fact that we're all in the same sort of
field other seinfeld had a lovely observation about how when comedians meet each other,
they're like the same breed of dog.
Yeah.
The tail starts wagging.
You're like, oh, you're like the same breed as me.
Oh, my God.
So it was really nice.
And I've known Lee for, God, I mean, I first met Lee in about 1998.
So I've known him for a long time long but i hadn't seen him for years like
yeah of course yeah because you tend to sort of drift apart a little bit when you get to a certain
level people go off and do their own thing because they're not on bills together all the time yeah
oh completely but i mean i i and and just also i i sort of i don't know if you had a similar thing
but i i found that the more i was doing the task the more confident i got in the sort of
you do get into the rhythm of it and you go,
oh, okay, I now have to,
they're going to set fire to that
and I'm going to have to build a dog out of the ashes
using nothing but seaweed and ash.
Yeah, okay.
Sarah, don't give away future tasks.
Do you see how smoothly I came up with that example?
That's my improv
um so you say you didn't think you you went into it wanting to win but you're quite i mean you're
quite far in the lead now i mean so i think you win three out the first four episodes did that
were you quite nervous at that point when you were that yeah that's when i wanted it
yeah that's when i started to want it it's the classic thing where i was like i haven't got a
nice cubes chance in Hades.
It was the hero's trajectory.
It was the hero's journey.
And then I'm like, I'm in the fight.
I'm actually in the fight with a chance here.
Yeah, look, there's also the competitive thing
where I will get competitive.
And that's why I often will crumble because I'll care too much.
And you sort of see when people are indifferent how – there's that thing with stand-up where the only way to really succeed with stand-up is to get to a point where you don't care.
Like that's like the magic zone of stand-up.
But you have to do it seven nights a week for 10 years to get to the point where you go, oh, I don't care.
It doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. Now I the point where you go oh i don't care it doesn't
matter yeah yeah yeah now i can only do good work because i don't care yeah it's the impossible
zen mastery of stand-up yeah absolutely um i mean you've already had so many great moments
in the series uh the i mean the realizing the salt was sugar the tasting that and suddenly
realizing uh what the trick was uh the recreation of the shining um the i was sugar the tasting that and suddenly realizing uh what the trick was
uh the recreation of the shining um the i was really proud of the shining oh the shining was
the shining was very impressive it's all right wasn't it yeah and i thought alex really played
his part on on his little trike i think he has that little trike anyway i can imagine that
that's how he gets to the time that was how we got to and from the studio the the month uh the days in a month system seems to have gone down very well i've seen a lot of
people talking about that yeah i mean i um although uh whenever i try to like i'm pretty
sure that it's an ironclad like the logic is good but then whenever i try to explain it to anyone i fall apart and i can
it's like i can never it's like i've peered into the creation of the universe and now i can't ever
explain it to anyone yeah i don't know how to i don't know how to recreate the position i don't
i don't remember the sudden drop after there was something about the the sadness after summer
so you dropped a shoulder but in the in the moment it seemed to it seemed to work and
have a bit of logic i do remember that coming up with that um is it mnemonic mnemonic mnemonic
mnemonic yeah oh the m silent is it someone tells me that at the age of 44
are you for fucking real mnemonic yeah oh the quinoa disaster was bad enough, but this is bad.
Oh, shit.
Mnemonic.
Mnemonic.
Not menmonic.
Not menmonic, no.
Say it again.
Does menmonic sound right?
I don't want to say it.
No, because it doesn't sound right.
No, it's wrong.
No.
Shit.
I write for a living.
But look, let's get on to the episode.
So let's start with the prize task.
How did you, did you enjoy doing the prize task?
Was that a particular element of the show that you liked?
I, that was the bit that I put the least amount of thought into
until the 11th hour.
And when they'd, I'd be getting the, you know,
like there'd be a bunch of emails and then a phone call
from like the line
producer going we really need you to bring the thing in and then i sort of realized oh that's
really important because it's like the first two minutes if you stand upset yeah but you want to
open strong yeah and then i realized how badly i messed up because i'm like oh that's the opportunity
to get some good laughs but you say that I mean I
don't there's not many people who actually realize that I think the majority of people sort of fudge
that yeah that's price task and it is funny when they do yeah especially so this this price task
is the best thing you can operate with your hand yeah we'll start with Charlotte this is a classic
example of someone just thinking something it's I mean it's technically good. She brought a drill in.
Yes.
You can operate that with your hand.
It's a good and useful thing to hang around.
But as the opening to a show,
it's a little bit of a letdown.
Yeah.
But the thing that's,
what I think is so great about this show
is that even if you are a bit pants
and do something like that,
Greg and Alex will get so many laughs
at your expense that you're safe you know like
it'll be a home goal a very british show yeah it'll absolutely be a home goal yeah there will
be laughter um but yeah you've just made the decision if you're going to generate it or be
you know so but yeah i i didn't put enough thought into those tasks and then i had a last minute panic so i i i mean i brought the
base in because it it just i don't i don't even know what i was thinking i think i just grabbed
the thing and it was the base well okay what i liked about the base though although as you say
it's not like the biggest opener in terms of in terms of a prize task it's not as good as a fake
there's like a fake thumb. That's funny.
No, the fake thumb was good.
But I think what it was, the base,
is a genuinely high stakes prize item,
which is something that has sort of been forgotten on the show.
When the show started,
people were bringing the prizes with the expectation that the other people would take them away.
So Romesh in series one would bring in his car
or his wedding ring.
And the base feels closer to that like that
is genuinely something that you love that if you'd had to have given it away it would have
been a disaster yeah um totally um and that was the other thing that i was thinking is that you
know there needs to be an emotional investment i'm not sure if this episode has gone to air yet, but there was, I stole a road sign.
Yes.
As one of the task prizes.
It has gone to air and they,
they wouldn't let you,
they wouldn't let you use it.
Oh,
so I went,
I went through so much to get,
it was so fucking heavy and it was outside Dorston Junction tube station.
And it was really interesting though, because it's a real sort of
as i think it was quite a sort of example of what it's like to be a bit of a karen
that i think a white woman can kind of do quite a high level of civil disobedience
before someone would interrupt yeah yeah i mean i really felt my privilege that i i went there
were there were traffic cones everywhere and there was like a big arrow that was illuminated.
It was a very heavy roadwork sign that took me so long to carry.
It was like half an hour of me carrying it.
And I didn't get questioned.
But I was clearly doing something that was dangerous for traffic.
You clearly weren't in charge of the sign, right?
Completely.
Absolutely.
And I kept tripping over it and going, oh, fucking shit.
Like, and I was like crying.
I was like, I hurt myself.
It collapsed on my ankle.
And I'm like, I think I'm bleeding.
Like, then I was angry at the sign.
And yeah, I mean, and then when I rang alex i was like alex guess what i've done
i've done the funniest thing i've stolen a big traffic sign and he was like oh that's really
funny he was like such an idiot as well he's like oh my god that's brilliant and then there was an
hour later where he's like um channel four don't want us to do it i think it's really bad well you
know there's the sign in the dressing room sarah that says the only rules are you can't discuss
any of the tasks with your fellow contestants and you can't break the law.
And you broke the law.
Because I wanted to win.
There's a moment you can see that as well, Sarah, in this episode, right at the top, where Charlotte says she's brought in a drill.
And Greg says she can have five points because she asked for five points.
And everyone laughs along, apart from you, who looks genuinely upset.
Yeah, you've broken the rule, but that's not what the competition is.
Yeah, no, I actually saw that flicker of disappointment when I saw she got five points because she asked for it.
And I was thinking, oh, do I just have to ask for it now?
I'll just ask for it.
I love it.
I would have done exactly the same thing.
Really?
I would have been so annoyed.
Mike brought in the aforementioned thumb.
Yes.
I actually didn't think this was –
I thought your bass guitar should have been higher than the thumb.
Oh, thank you.
We had a much longer chat.
It didn't make it in the edit because he was asking me about what I'd been playing
and what I'd been learning.
We actually had a long and involved and, frankly,
now I'm saying it out loud, very boring discussion
about someone learning the bass.
I was quite proud of, you know, the tunes that I'd been learning
and then Greg said we should start a band
and he's never followed through on that.
There's never been a follow-up text, nothing.
No, he asked everyone to start a band, Sarah, I'm sorry.
Does he really?
Do you play an instrument?
Yeah, he loves starting bands.
He's the drummer, right? Is he a drummer uh he plays guitar really yeah he plays guitar
and sings why do you have the drummer vibe for me I thought he was going to be like the Phil
Collins kind of drummer vocalist because he's like a big gorilla like the chocolate advert
there we go Mike's thumb yeah um I feel like he crumbled under pressure there as well I don't
think he thought that through and then when Greg asked him any questions about it,
he just fell apart.
It's just so funny though.
It doesn't matter.
I mean, for me, he's the people's princess.
I just, I can't take my eyes off him.
He's so funny.
He's just got such a beautiful vibe as well.
There's just, I kind of,
sometimes I wonder if it's the power of facial hair.
I don't know if any of this would work without a mustache.
He's in, he was in, I don't know if any of this would work without a moustache. He's in.
He was in.
I can't even remember what show it was.
He was in the pilot of a sitcom and he didn't have his moustache.
And it's the oddest feeling looking at Mike without a moustache.
Because he's really made it his own.
Yeah, he has.
And do you know what also is extraordinary about Mike?
When he turned up to the studio
it was the middle of summer and he's in shorts and a t-shirt and flip-flops and he's built like
a sort of like a bondi hipster like underneath that brown beige combo that he's wearing he's
like he's cut that's what doesn't make yeah none of it makes sense he swims he swims a lot he does and um vapes
non-so like when i used to know mike back in the day of stand-up he was always the guy who was you
know yeah having cigs and um now he's just constantly got the vape sort of attached to his
face but i was stunned when he arrived at the studio i was like mike has a body attached to
that head and it's and it's a good one i said i said it like i'm sure finding
that out that mike's cut and has a good body is gonna send some people absolutely crazy i said
that to charlotte we openly said to him we had no idea that you had a good body like we just assumed
it was just mush underneath what a lovely backstage vibe it sounds like. Let's talk about the rest of these prizes.
So Lee's Swanning Whistle I thought was great.
I thought this is his best prize task.
It was perfect.
He thought it through.
It fits with his vibe perfectly.
Yeah.
Sort of an old school sort of comedy thing going on.
And it is funny.
It's just funny.
It's that, I mean, there are those sort of top comedy tropes of the, you know,
the whoopee cushion.
Yeah.
I mean, he played a blinder.
And then when he demonstrated it, I was like, yeah, that's great.
And it is very Lee.
Yeah, very Lee.
And it says a lot that Mike was panicking so much about his thumb,
he then had to go back to the swanny whistle as a callback to justify
his own prize.
Yeah.
But Jamali got the five points
with his handmade tattoo gun yes which is genuinely impressive because my first thought
as to what i would bring in would be a tattoo gun i thought oh tattoo gun because i love tattoos
you've got tattoos don't you i've got tats i'm a cool i'm a cool ink boy i know you are i got it
jesus so i would probably would have brought in a tattoo gun because you can buy them i wouldn't I'm a cool ink boy. I know you are. I got it. Jesus.
So I probably would have brought in a tattoo gun because you can buy them.
I wouldn't advise that.
And maybe I would have tattooed myself a tiny bit
just to show how I would have used it.
Didn't somebody tattoo themselves in a...
Josh Whittacombe took that in series one.
He got Greg tattooed on his foot,
which annoyed me
because I definitely would have got a tattoo
in my series, guys.
What would you have tattooed?
What would you have done?
You would have gone much bigger.
Full back piece of Alex on the toilet or something.
That would just be...
You'd never regret it.
People talk about tattoos and regret and all that stuff,
but you would never regret that.
No.
Greg on the toilet.
Greg Davies backing one out on your back.
To hand make one.
Jamali's got hidden talents.
He can spin a pillow on his finger and he can hand make a tattoo gun.
And he's not afraid of violence.
That's the other thing.
He's not afraid to bash a thing until it works.
He'll just keep hitting it.
It was amazing.
And it does work quite a lot of the time.
Absolutely.
That's what I love about it is that, you know,
I sort of fall into a K-hole of, oh, how am I going to win this?
And he's like, we could set fire to it.
And both approaches are equally valid.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
That's the magic of it.
It was five points for Jamali, four points for Lee for the Swanee Whistle,
three points for Mike's thumb, two points for your bass. Yeah, I i know i really got stung on that yeah i think you did i put yeah i
think three points i would have given you i just wonder if i'd played it like i i wonder if maybe
i had done a little bit of a like slap of the bass like if i'd actually gone well let me let
me play because at the time of recording i could play three songs could you do
like seinfeld slap bass no god is that hard yeah that's really i'm not flea like i mean
that's really hard um uh no i i can play um come together by the beatles um i can play juice by lizzo but not fancy just like
you'd go oh that's juice by lizzo it's not like the really fancy licks in between
um and what else can i play um um the pretender by the foo fighters so do you think if you
demonstrated one of those things and you would have got more points i do i think if I'd been given a chance to show how much work I'd been putting in.
See, there's the school.
That is schoolgirl Sarah.
If you have just seen how much effort I've made.
I'm Tracy Flick from election.
I think there's been a misunderstanding here because I've tried really hard on this.
I think I might have nudged in with a bit more.
Yeah, I think maybe I could have got a three for that.
I think if you demonstrated how to play a song on the bass
to that level of intensity that you just showed there,
desperate to prove yourself,
I think Greg would have loved taking a point off you.
Yeah, because you're so right.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're absolutely...
He would have gone, that's zero points.
The thing that I think is best is my drill.
Should we move on? No. Go on.
Here's her drill.
You can screw things in, you can unscrew things,
you can drill things in, you can drill other things in.
You can't just bring house-sold items in...
I genuinely thought that.....and say, this is the thing I like, the drill.
It's an absolute outrage.
It is a good thing that you can operate with your hand.
I agree, I think that's a great thing that you can operate with your hand i agree i think
that's a great thing okay well if that's what you all think i'll give charlotte five points it's
absolutely yes absolutely five points perhaps some people in here have learned a lesson who's next
we come to task one uh which is cover your lower half in biodegradable cling film and gaffer tape
so no part of your lower half is not covered in cling film and gaffer tape your time starts
now weird a weird task yeah and another one of those double negative ones that trips you up and
the double negatives are impossible to process also if you've seen enough episodes you've seen
people get tripped up on the double negative so you're like oh what does that oh what does that
mean i could i i had to read that a thousand times.
And you could see how Lee kind of interpreted as,
as he quite rightly said, if I said finish your fish and chips,
he's quite right.
He actually did it completely literally.
It was a bit, when this task started and everyone started wrapping that,
I just thought, has Alex got into some sort of bondage phase
when he came up with this task? Because it't look pretty yeah pretty and jamali was so
clever jamali was like he made walkable trousers and i think that comes from the fact he couldn't
be bothered to do it the other way do you think yeah it was clever but i don't think that's how
jamali get i don't think he goes i'm gonna find the way around it i'm gonna pick a hole in it i
think he goes what's easiest what can i do yeah and also i don't think jamali would have been
going there's going to be a second part to this where that where i'm going to need to move no
because he's not seen the show before no no it was very very obvious because it's increasing anger
about how dumb it was yeah oh you didn't know what this is yeah um yeah no i was um i i did okay on that task i i mean
i think i came second on that one and i think i was only beaten by one second yeah because you
had to go and get the cat the captain's hat after i mean obviously as soon as you started wrapping
your legs did you think they're going to make me do something else after no that's another thing
about me i realized no I don't forward think.
You're just in the task in the moment.
Yeah, which is, you know, the state that yogis will tell you is the,
you know, that's what you're working towards
is to be completely in the moment.
That's not the vibe I got when you were wrapping your legs up.
I didn't think she's in a yogi state.
No, no, no.
I don't know what I'm saying now.
I don't know. I think there's also a weird thing that i
i do um i go into a state of panic but my brain is only working at about 30 capacity because the
other 70 is panicking i think that's the you know the sad thing with uh when you're filming a show
and the cameras they turn around the cameras on you and you go oh my performance was so much better
when it was on the other person because there's always going to be a portion of my brain
going do this well the camera's on you this time of course yeah and i think that's the problem with
taskmaster is that there's always going to be a portion of you going this is being filmed don't
do anything stupid which disables a good portion of your brain definitely um i mean i think i would
have been while i was doing i'd be thinking
why are they making me tie my legs up something's gonna happen yeah always thinking the worst yeah
have you been into the show before you filmed it or did you do the thing oh really i've seen all of
it oh wow so i was constantly paranoid every time i did anything i was constantly paranoid that it
was for something else or that i was trying to be tripped up yeah so let's go through the points here Jamali well
deserved five points because I think even if he hadn't been as quick he deserved an extra point for
being the only one to wrap his leg uh wrap his legs like trousers yeah completely four point
four points for you with the 41 seconds three points for Charlotte two points for Mike and one
point for Lee which
is a shit last episode for Lee was absolutely disastrous and I was hoping he was gonna he was
gonna pull it back this episode but not so far he was just so funny in the studio though I mean he
really he's just um like just being on the show with him like the amount of stuff that they just
had to cut because there's just not enough time, he just opens his mouth
and it's all you go, that's just, he's just done a,
that's like a decent stand-up routine.
Yeah.
He's just been chatting and just mucking around
and like that would do pretty well in a comedy club.
Yeah.
Like that's a bit.
He's just done a bit.
Well, I was imagining it was cling film and gaffer tape
as a combination.
You don't have to do.
No, no, don't tell me that now.
It says every part of your body has to be covered with cling film and gaffer tape as a combination. You don't have to do... No, no, don't tell me that now. It says every part of your body
has to be covered with cling film and gaffer tape.
Okay.
If some of it's cling film, some of it's gaffer tape,
that is not what that says.
So if the others do that,
I'm telling you now,
I'm going to be kicking off in the studio.
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Task two, make the best uniform for this bee you must wear your beekeeping outfit
throughout the task you have five minutes to order five items and 50 minutes to make the
uniform your time starts now so like we say you immediately read that and saw big beekeeper outfit
beekeeper outfit yep completely so that did you when you heard the task did you think that i didn't but
i always would panic in this sort of scenario where you're you're given five minutes to order
five items and your brain's just going everywhere but i guess if you if you'd immediately settled
on beekeeper you knew the sort of stuff you wanted in a way that's a good thing because you go right
i know what i although i gave my own whip. I don't know if that just.
Because the story changed, right?
Was that based on the fact that you couldn't make a beekeeper outfit?
It was too difficult.
So you just had to sort of alter the character to fit what you made it.
Do you know, I don't know why, but whenever I think of beekeeper outfits, I think of Catherine Hepburn.
So in my head, but I don't know why Catherine Hepburn's holding a whip in my head
I was building Catherine Hepburn yeah I don't know what we're very weird yeah and maybe it's
like a performance that she did in a like a movie from the 1930s that I might have seen as a seven
year old at my grandmother's house I don't know maybe she played a beekeeper once or something
but I was no longer building a bee in my head the bee
was just irrelevant to the narrative but there was a and there was a very um as we've said there
was an abusive sort of strain to it it wasn't it wasn't a happy work environment for the other bees
but i suppose that's the yeah you always think the bee working environment probably isn't very happy. Probably not.
They're overcrowded.
Yeah.
So your fellow beekeeper attempters,
because it turns out that everyone thinks I'll make a beekeeper,
but it's so hard that you have to change it.
Oh, the gloves made.
I mean, the gloves just made anything.
You do get to the point where you're just stapling and gluing and just do whatever this.
Lee's was incredible.
I mean, I watched Lee's and I was like,
that is actually a very good project that you could put.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
I was going to say you could put it in a museum.
You can't.
No one would want to see that.
In like a weird art gallery.
Sure.
Like, yeah, Tate Modern or something.
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.
Not a good one.
One of the ones.
Oh, no.
No.
Yeah, his was great.
And he went, pew, he's going to be a motorcyclist.
That's what the bee is.
Well, he sort of did.
I suppose what you did, really, because you went,
I'm wearing a beekeeper's outfit.
Let's make the bee look like that.
He did just do his own costume.
No, you're absolutely right.
It was an act of narcissism.
He's just being John Malkovich.
But the helmet was so impressive to come up with the helmet as a frozen pea to know the immediate thing that you need to make
helmet for a bee and go i need a frozen pea now so it defrosts to the right level
is genuinely impressive but also when he said because if it's too soft it won't protect the
skull structure it needs to be a functional
helmet of course it does so funny i loved it and and mike's mike's matador yeah i don't know where
that came from i don't know how we because at least with lee you can see the kind of the genesis
of the idea i'm going to dress the bee like yeah whereas mike went to a matador straight away as
well yeah i'm gonna. I need some sand.
I need sand.
I need a cow.
I need a bull.
I need to build a ring in a stadium.
Like there wasn't even a sort of, oh, what's a job?
Just amazing.
That's the good thing about both Mike and Lee's is that they put them within the situation as well.
So it kind of didn't matter how good the costumes were necessarily
because they were within.
They put them in a little scene.
Also, I think Mike is a very good improviser.
And I think the improv thing would be a real feather in your cap.
Whereas I'm not an improviser.
I'm the opposite.
I don't enjoy it.
I don't like watching it.
This is all scripted now, isn't it, for example?
Yeah.
Oh, we've discussed this for weeks. I mean, we don't come up with this gold off the cuff um but i and i think
maybe that's that actually that sort of limited thinking really does you know you've got to sort
of i had to overcome that and try to improvise more which was it's never my inclination but then
sometimes i think in taskmaster that that is to
your credit sticking to the rules and just absolutely trying to trying to nail the task
works for some tasks but then for other tasks it perhaps is a bit of a bit of a hurdle what was
your standout task that made you feel a bit sick when you watched it back in terms of how dumb you
were oh i did uh i might have mentioned this on the podcast before there
was one where we had to break something into as many pieces as possible and then completely
reconstruct it right um and i just couldn't decide what to do so i tried about three different things
and realized they probably wouldn't work and settled on a bunch of grapes i thought if i
take all the grapes off the stalks then i can put all the
grapes back on the stalks but no one's ever done that before it's really hard i was trying to super
glue them back on the stalks yeah i was trying to put glue in the grapes and then put them back on
and then i realized i hadn't snipped the top off the glue so i'd just been
putting a super glue pot and then taking it out and then trying to put the grain it's just a full meltdown full meltdown that's so great that's so great because when you do something really stupid
they play it out pretty much in real time yeah you know when you read about great military disasters
and the sort of hot take is generally they just doubled down on the wrong strategy like vietnam
they just doubled down on the wrong strategy like vietnam they just doubled
down on the wrong strategy yeah because because i think when you're just thinking well i've started
this so i have to carry on with it because if i back out of it i'll look weak as well as bad
yeah and also this is a dumb idea but it's the only idea yes yeah i haven't got a strategy b c and d my brain has only come up with one solution
and yeah you do you just go i if for me to stop and come up with a different approach
there just isn't enough time yeah we have to stick with the wrong we have to stick with the
wrong approach now it's a horrible feeling i imagine that must be like being a bad surgeon where you go well i've cut it now we have to keep going we have to take this out
now just suck out as much blood as you can yeah and i'll crack on with this and do not mention it
to anyone uh jamali's ghost was absolutely awful um but he was so good at arguing the correctness of his approach.
Like when he really tried, and that was something
that I didn't quite do.
And again, this is the sort of good girl syndrome of,
oh, I failed, how embarrassing.
Jamali was like, nah, mate, I didn't fail.
I rethought the task task which was so great but
even he couldn't argue his way out of that though because it did not look like a ghost at all it's
like a bee in an envelope basically he just yeah yeah it was well one of his things that he one of
his key ingredients was a glass of beer yeah like yeah no honestly he thought he was so smarmy about
ordering that beer and then he tried to drink it through the net of the beekeepers yeah yeah that was great that was great yeah it's always nice to see a
little crack in the facade with jamali because yeah yeah you know he's very laid back and most
of the time it feels completely natural i'm in awe of jamali yeah uh but then occasionally
bit of slapstick lovely brings it you just drank your beer through your bearkeeper helmet yeah but he did he i mean i thought and i thought he i mean it wasn't um it wasn't an argument that
he was ever going to win but i thought he put up the good fight yes yeah i think so yeah but
charlotte's i mean with the six charlotte might have been that might be my favorite you know i
thought lee's was very good and obviously Beevil Knievel,
there was a pun, it was a classic Lee Mack thing.
But I feel like Pope Bee was my favourite.
It had the most character in the bee's face.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was actually the only thing that really,
she had imbued it with the human characteristics
of the profession it was meant to have.
Totally.
It almost felt papal.
Yes.
Papal.
Papal.
Papal.
Menmonic.
Menmonic.
Fuck, that is just the worst.
Oh, my God.
I'm dying.
So it was five points for Lee, four points for Charlotte,
three points for Mike's matador bee,
two points for the dark backstory of Mike's Matador Bee Two points for the
Dark backstory of the Bee Commandant
Yeah
One point for the Ghost Bee
The worst guard in the prison
White cloth
White felt please
Knitting
White tack
White material
Something to make a tiny sword
I'm going to need more information than that.
So a short length of something grey or silver.
Again, you're going to need to be more specific.
A pea.
A frozen pea.
A Stanley knife and some Tippex.
Ask three.
This is the one we've been waiting for, isn't it, Sarah?
Arrange the seven objects in line on the table
in order
of how many sides they have fewer sides on your left most sides on your right you may only touch
the objects with your face if anything falls from the table you're disqualified you have 10 minutes
you must put on your darkness goggles now yeah so you were you were dreading this coming up yeah i
knew i i knew i'd done a terrible thing and it wasn't going to look good.
And it was as bad as I had thought it was.
When I was in the studio, when I was watching it up on that big screen,
I just wanted to – I was really embarrassed.
I was like, that is – it's like I can't even think of what it's like.
Yeah, I mean, they obviously know what they're doing with these ones um and but i think you got
i did i do think you got away with it because all i can remember having now seen this twice
is lee they've really they repeated lee's so many times with that noise and the bit of spit coming
out of his mouth over and over again yeah yeah i, he does say, he did at some point go,
oh, God, would you please stop?
Like he did actually ask them to stop because it was so difficult for him.
And he went, oh, there's a bit of, you can see the string of spit there too.
I can imagine in a studio scenario with no audience as well,
that's so much worse.
Yeah, it was incredible, yeah.
At least people like, there's a rhythm of laughter and every time again people are laughing again but if it's just some colleagues watching
i know even the sound of laughter drowns out the awfulness a little bit you know yeah i mean he
thankfully disgraced himself just a bit more i feel like the other contestants on some level
knew not to lick everything that it would not it wouldn't present well on television
but i think i think licking is the best way to go though right i think it's definitely well but
it's the it's the best way to find out the amount of sides i just i don't know i got the sense that
i kept on licking stuff even after i'd identified it i really there was a little bit of, yeah, you know that's an ice pyramid now.
You can stop licking it.
You've said it's an ice pyramid.
But again, that's just the, oh, I'll just lick everything.
Keep licking.
Keep licking just in case.
Keep licking until the whistle goes.
Yeah, it didn't look good.
And you knocked the egg off the table, sadly.
I did.
I remembered that.
I distinctly remember that.
Oh, God damn it.
You feel so deflated in those moments.
Well, especially if you're worried about how it's coming across anyway.
You're licking all this stuff and then you know it's for nothing.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, that was the other thing.
I thought I was really in with a chance.
I thought I was correctly identifying stuff i thought yeah i've got this
and um and i had done it at a great humiliation and it was all fun out um so that stung that
stung a little bit and same with lee he knocked off the jelly and the egg disqualified and then
jamali just trashed the joint jamali just trashed again so he knocked he knocked something off straight
away so really i thought at that point he would just go well i'm disqualified so i'm done i'm out
with the most amount of dignity but then he started just knocking everything off with his
face yeah i know it was great and it's great to watch because you do need to have the pendulum
swings of different contestants you know he was absolutely he was just the sort of air conditioner
of the show he just you go oh that's oh, that's so relaxing to watch someone just smash it up, really.
And make you realise it doesn't matter as well.
Yeah, because you forget that.
Yeah.
And also to bring Alex back down to earth,
to realise that he's not in charge of anyone, really.
I think the whole show is such a great metaphor for life.
I mean, there are so many hidden truths about people who are in charge
telling you to do things that maybe they don't know everything
and you don't have to do it.
And maybe years of your life are just metaphorically represented
by pushing an egg off a table.
You've licked everything on the table and now an egg has smashed.
Maybe that was like my university days but physicalized
i don't know i think the show how it doesn't matter how many things you lick the egg will
always fall off the table exactly it's like a philip larkin poem i i just feel like a weird one
you remember that one i did mention my university days being a bit of a mess
philip larkin slash edward lear sort of uh sort of vibes
yeah um so i mean really this this is one of those tasks where if you don't get disqualified
you're probably in for some good points um because mike got four points you got some you got a real
and yes so i think you just as long as you can get some real headway on those ones yeah yeah
exactly um i mean the highlight of this one for me in terms of quotes was,
I think this is Mike Wozniak distilled down into a sentence where he says,
I should follow my instincts, but my instincts are telling me to squeak like a bat.
That's right.
He did say that.
Yes, he did say that.
Because I've got no idea what's going on in his head most of the time,
because it can ping between make this be a matador and then squeak like a bat i think he's just got a weird a weird voice in his head i think
he also said um when he um when he brushed his face against the camembert that it was like
brushing up against the face of the dead or something the final kiss from a dead person
final kiss from a dead person but then i think he said something like it's crackers time like because he wanted to put it on a biscuit it's just i mean he's so funny
yeah he really is he's beautiful um so yes it was five points for charlotte four points for mike
everyone else disqualified yeah yeah i mean and unfortunately with this show you know if you've
when those ones where there's like three people on zero
and two people on five,
that's when you can really do some damage to your fellow teammates.
So I knew, yeah, I kind of thought, I can't do too many of those.
It's too late, too late.
It's all in the bag.
It's all been filmed.
Yeah, that's the annoying thing as well, isn't it?
When you see yourself drop something like that and you're like,
you can't learn from your mistakes because you've made them all already.
No,
it's all been done.
But yeah,
you're right.
Those,
those ones where there's a high attrition rate of disqualified people,
that's,
that's when you sort of separate the pack.
You definitely care about this as much as I do.
Yeah,
I know.
Tactically,
it's thinking about the points.
Great.
I know,
I know.
A brie,
perhaps? If it's, if it's wedge time, you're talking five. I know, I know. A brie, perhaps?
If it's wedge time, you're talking five sides.
Yeah, I'll bite you off on this one.
Here we go.
There we go.
Studio task.
This is, I think now, this is marshmallow tongs.
Yeah, yeah. I think this is one of my favourite studio tasks ever,
to watch as a competitive sport.
I think people are going to be playing this i enjoyed that i really enjoyed that genuinely tense quite a lot of the time i think um and it was nice to see different styles
i think you you had quite a good style mike obviously quite a flair style with the sort of
bruce lee kung fu did a bit of crab action, a bit of pincer movement.
Yeah, pincer movement, but genuinely tense, I thought.
It was so funny.
I was watching it.
I flinched, like I physically flinched when I was watching the playback
and someone had slapped the marshmallow off the table
and I did that kind of, oh, that made me jump.
Yeah, like when I'm watching it IMAX oh my god oh that
really oh that was a close one but yeah it's essentially a game of slaps did you used to play
slaps yeah yeah totally and I I also think um um and like absolutely that somebody must do a study
on this sometime that I think having siblings really prepares you well for this show.
Right. Interesting.
Yeah. Anytime those competitive games, because I got very serious and I really wanted to win.
And I kind of had an idea of the techniques that work.
And these are just the techniques that, you know, back in the old days, that would be like, because now my kids are on iP ipads like if we go on a car journey they just want ipads yeah that that was maximum violence
time in the back seat when i was growing up that was when you could really land some some hits
and and get away because your parents just they were just either fighting with each other or
looking out the window so yeah and then if challenged you could say oh we're just playing
a game where it's just a. Would you lighten up?
Yeah.
You're raising a real dishrag over here.
It wasn't...
Look, you got four points, as did Charlotte and Jamali, of course.
Mike and Lee got two points each.
But it wasn't enough.
This was not an episode victory for you,
which is rare so far.
This was Charlotte Ritchie not an episode victory for you which is so far uh this uh this was charlotte richie winning an episode which i was absolutely over the moon about because i was worried she was
gonna start trailing behind so heavily and never win an episode and i don't want that for her no
no but she's a very positive person it wouldn't um affect her profoundly like it would hurt you
or i i get the sense that you and i would um that we'd we'd be
saving our tears for the pillow but yeah it would hurt and it would hurt on a deeper level than
we'd ever admit but i think charlotte's quite a robust happy person yeah i get that i get that
impression as well i mean especially in the actual tasks she's so positive and bouncy and
excited but does look exasperated with herself
whenever it cuts back to the studio.
And she said something like a children's TV presenter.
She just knows Greg's absolutely going to tear strips off her.
And then you get locked into a cycle of,
oh, this is our comedy vibe.
We're now cast in our roles.
Yeah.
And you do start sort of giving over to it
because you're like, well, I guess that's just our comedy rhythm.
I'm going to be upbeat and you're going to shit on my picnic.
Like that's just going to be, that's just how we are for this series.
All right, come on then, give it to me again.
Okay, yeah.
I don't think, I don't know, I don't know if I ever locked into any sort of vibe like that with Greg, but that was a very clear.
So with the younger contestants, so with Jamali, it was very much a sort of like to, not know what's that movie,
Officer and a Gentleman. I felt like it was very Lou Gossett Jr., Richard Gere,
the stern guy starting to develop respect for the young silverback. So I could see that
relationship and I knew the shape of that. And with Charlotte there was the kind of you know mocking her sunshiny
disposition
Greg would be the first one
to admit that he
it gets on his nerves when people are positive
because yes well I mean he's a bit British
I mean you guys
if there's one hot take I've got from the
British public it's not
we don't do positivity
look it was good I was happy that Charlotte won an episode I mean she's still she's not, it's not, we don't do positivity. No, no, thank you. Look, it was, it was good.
I was happy that Charlotte won an episode.
I mean,
she's still,
she's still behind.
She's on 58 points.
Then Jamali on 67 points.
Lee on 70 points.
Very close to Mike is on 71.
90 points,
Sarah.
That's,
that's pretty incredible.
19 points in the lead.
It's not bad.
I think what we can take away from this is that if you take everything with a joyless seriousness,
you'll get results, but at what cost?
You don't see that as a cost.
I can tell you're just 19 points in the lead.
I'm secretly beside myself with joy.
I just don't want to be hated, but I'm just over the moon.
Absolutely bloody delighted.
We've had some emails in from listeners.
There's some questions for you.
Is it hair?
It's going to be hair.
Yeah, they're just all just the word hair.
Jojoba oil is the answer to every single one of them.
Just jojoba oil. This is from marissa in york uh dear sarah um as a fellow mum i have often
thought i would be great at taskmaster richard herring also said that he thought that this would
give you the edge do you agree yeah totally uh because parenting is just about pointless
repetitious tasks um oh not the parenting but i mean like things like when you go i'm
tidying this up again for you to fuck it up tomorrow morning right okay yeah the children
themselves are not pointless i love them more than anything ever but the tasks surrounding
the the admin yeah yeah i can totally see that yeah the relentless admin of i'm going to scrape the shit off your
wellies and you're going to cover them in shit and i i'm going to scrape the shit off because
you can't get around in wellies that look like that because they're under four inches of mud but
i just know that there's no point to this so i think that that is and it preps you and it makes
you care about a small task but also a lot of kids games i. I think a lot of kids' games kind of suit that thinking.
No, that's really interesting what you're saying.
I think, yeah, it just means you'll get on with something
without questioning it.
And even if you know it's completely pointless in the end,
you've just got to crack on with it and do the task.
Yeah, you're broken, but you'll do your best.
And you'll try.
You'll try at least.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of these tasks, I think,
are just shorthand for parenting.
I think it's almost shorthand for parenting.
I think it's almost like a Tamagotchi-style situation where people aren't sure if they want to have kids.
This is from someone called Sarah.
Dear Sarah, you often look shocked at how well you're doing.
Did you not anticipate what a good competitor you would be?
No, because you're filming on your own.
Yeah.
You don't know how well anybody else is doing.
And I found that when I was filming, that was when I was really down on myself
because I was like, I bet everybody else is nailing this.
Yeah.
Because you're filming so much of it.
And also because of COVID protocols when we didn't film together that often.
Yeah.
As a team.
So you start building up how the other contestants are doing
and you just think, think oh they just would have
they will just be heaping themselves in glory day after day whilst i'm just falling into this pit
and then when you get into the studio you're like oh they're oh wow we're all when none of us are
very good which is really nice it's less surprised that you were doing well it's more surprised that
they were doing so badly yeah yeah yeah i mean saying someone like lee who
is probably the one of the fastest minds that i've ever worked with like he's a formidable person to
work with yeah and then to see him do something really stupid and slow-minded and not reading it
properly it's really lovely I also operate on that.
If I can see someone else do badly at something,
it really relaxes me and mine.
This is from Hayley in New York City.
Question for Sarah.
It's hard to figure out who is the most slash least competitive,
but I think Charlotte is the least and Lee is the most.
Could you place them in order of competitiveness?
Charlotte is definitely least competitive.
Oh, no. Jamali is definitely least competitive oh no
um jamali is the least competitive yeah then although jamali's he's a he's a tricky one
because i think underneath it he does want it i think a lot of his frustration like i i and he
he is good in tasks like he the there were there are quite a few tasks where he's like yeah i don't
care this is stupid and then he does the cleverest thing like with the toilet roll thing you're like
oh yeah he completely nailed it so i think he actually is a bit more competitive than he he
would admit but he's a cool guy so i'm gonna say least competitive charlotte then Jamali, then Mike, and then Lee and I are somewhere around the same area.
I would say Lee probably more.
Yeah.
But I'm only saying that because he's had more success in his career.
So I'm assuming he's been hungrier for it.
That must be it.
Yeah.
That's how it works, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
That's our success and good things.
Just who wants it more.
Yeah. There was a PS from Hayley, that's our success and good things. Just who wants it more. Yeah.
There was a PS from Hayley, but we've sort of covered this point.
What's it like sitting next to Mike Wozniak,
and are you surprised that he's become an unlikely sex symbol?
I'm not surprised at all.
No?
He's got it all happening, and he's a doctor.
I mean, what?
I don't think he's an unlikely sex symbol at all.
I think he's the most likely.
I think it's like someone going, Brad Pitt, that was unlikely.
Have you not seen a human before?
Like, okay.
Excellent.
Sarah, we always ask our guests on the Taskmaster podcast
to rate their experience on the Taskmaster podcast
between one and five points in the style of Taskmaster.
I've had a five because it's now 20 past three,
which means we've been going for an hour and 20.
And I honestly, I thought we'd been talking
for like half an hour.
Oh, well, there we go.
Yeah, I've had a lovely time.
It's gone very quickly.
I've had a lovely time as well.
It's been really nice talking to you.
I appreciate the five points.
Thank you very much, Sarah.
Thanks for having me.
And good luck in the rest of the series.
Thank you.
There we are. What a wonderful episode of the show huge fan of sarah's loving her on taskmaster knew she'd be brilliant very excited that she
agreed to come on the podcast uh and let's see if she can hold on to that onto that lead she throws
that away that's gonna be a upset isn't it oh dear okay so obviously we'll be back next
week to talk about Taskmaster series 11 episode 6 and yes we have a special guest booked and our
special guest for next week is Mike Wozniak Mike Wozniak of course in this current series so we
are very much looking forward to talking to him about episode 6 and also about Taskmaster series 11 in general and Taskmaster
in general is he a fan of the series anyway be good to chat and honestly it'd just be lovely
to catch up with Mike because he's a lovely man and I like picking apart his weird brain
so let's look forward to that remember go and watch the episodes on all four you got the bleeped
episodes on there as well for the more family friendly stuff uh go on the youtube channel uh go on the taskmaster store uh tweet just tweet generally
oh and if you have questions for any of our guests or indeed specifically mike wozniak do email us
taskmasterpodcast at gmail.com that is the email address for your questions to Mike Wozniak for next week.
Taskmasterpodcastatgmail.com.
But for now, thank you very much for listening.
We will see you next week.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Today I hope we've learned
how to celebrate the simple things in life.
The sound of birdsong.
Waves crashing on a beach.
And a 52-year-old man knocking jelly off a table with his tongue.
Farewell, my friends.
See you soon for the sixth chapter.
But for now, let's applaud tonight's winner,
Charlotte Ritchie!
for the sixth chapter.
But for now,
let's applaud tonight's winner,
Charlotte Ritchie.
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