Taskmaster The Podcast - Taskmaster The Podcast: Best of Part 1

Episode Date: July 14, 2022

Get ready to feel all the feels whilst you listen back to highlights from the Taskmaster Podcast. This first instalment features some of the wonderful guests that have featured on the podcast. They sh...are their highlights, low lights and lasting memories from their TM experience. Watch all of Taskmaster on All 4www.channel4.com/programmes/taskmaster Visit the Taskmaster Store for all your TM goodies!taskmasterstore.com Visit the Taskmaster YouTube Channelyoutube.com/taskmaster Get in touch with Ed and future guests:taskmasterpodcast@gmail.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, it's Terry O'Reilly, host of Under the Influence. Recently, we created an episode on cannabis marketing. With cannabis legalization, it's a brand new challenging marketing category. And I want to let you know we've produced a special bonus podcast episode where I talk to an actual cannabis producer. I wanted to know how a producer becomes licensed, how a cannabis company competes with big corporations, how a cannabis company markets its products in such a highly regulated
Starting point is 00:00:32 category, and what the term dignified consumption actually means. I think you'll find the answers interesting and surprising. Hear it now on Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly. This bonus episode is brought to you by the Ontario Cannabis Store and ACAS Creative. Hello, welcome to the Taskmaster Podcast. It's Ed Gamble here, host of the Taskmaster Podcast, and today is a very special episode. It is not our normal sort of episode. Today is a best of the Taskmaster Podcast. This is a best of all the edited highlights package from the many, many episodes of the Taskmaster podcast. It won't necessarily be all the in-depth task nerdy stuff this best of.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's more the fun stuff that happens around the edges. We've had some incredible guests, some very silly conversations, and that's what will be in this episode. We will be back on the 28th of July with series seven 7 episode 1 chat but for now enjoy this bit of silliness thank you very much bye-bye star of series 5 i'm going to call you the star of series 5 nish because as of yet we haven't
Starting point is 00:01:57 booked anyone else from series 5 the goat the goat of series 5 theAT of Series 5. The GOAT of Series 5. And for anyone listening, GOAT is an acronym used by the kids, which stands for greatest of all time. But when we call Nish the GOAT of Series 5, we mean he was the worst player in a natural GOAT. Nish, you must have, you know, you've agreed to do this. so you must have fond memories of doing taskmaster i have many fond memories of doing taskmaster ed none of them really um you know to do with the success of doing the tasks but i've always seen success i've got i'm measuring it on different metrics did i bring joy to people yes did i bring light into their otherwise meaningless lives yes did i win any of it no i've just got a more holistic you've got to stop applying your western monotheistic philosophies and notions of success to how i did in taskmaster so straight away there with that answer nish uh
Starting point is 00:03:01 you've managed to alienate people by calling their lives meaningless and attack... And also somehow managed to attack the West. This is... What a start from Nish. This is why you booked Nish Kumar. Welcome, James Acaster. No, it's not that one. We're doing a different podcast this time.
Starting point is 00:03:33 This is the Taskmaster podcast, where you are a special guest, James. You finally get to relax and just enjoy the experience. Oh, thank you, Ed. What a nice surprise. Just kick back, relax. You're not working today. Hoo-hoo. What about you? Are you working?
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm working my B off. Wait till you see me at work at this one. Off-menu, very chill experience for me, to be honest. It's just a sort of little chat about food. I do that all day, every day anyway. This, I do notes. I do prep. Oh, dear. Deary me.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Are you impressed? I am quite impressed impressed a different side to you i've never seen before this little swat oh with a little shiny apple for the teacher yes i would bring a teacher a little shiny apple i guess who's your teacher in this scenario i guess greg or alex actually i'm gonna say alex is a teacher in this scenario. Really? Yeah. Because he's the one who gets told off on the show a lot. But now the podcast is below him in terms of authority. So he very much takes out his authority on us. Yes. So who's Greg then?
Starting point is 00:04:39 Is he the headmaster or is he Ofsted? God. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, dear. Do you have fond memories of your experience on Taskmaster? Yes, I have fond memories. I have ups and downs in my mind from it.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You know, it was tricky being part of a team, a cast where, you know, if any of us had been on any of the other episodes, any of the other series, I mean, we probably would have won. So it was difficult being part of a lineup where all of you would have won on any other series. But now you're having to compete against each other. And I think that was the trickiest thing. That is an interesting take on your series, especially given, I think in the first episode, you suggested that you were the stupidest lineup yet. That was an early remark
Starting point is 00:05:31 that was proven to be wrong very quickly after that. Like the more it progressed, the more it was clear that we were all champion of champions. It was kind of like a champion of champions series without having to do the other series before that. So take us through your lineup then and then tell me why each of them
Starting point is 00:05:49 would have been a champion on another series. Yes. Kerry Godleman. She would have been a champion on any other series. She was a champion on our series, to be fair to you. Well, I agree with that. She was the champion of your series. Very, very good.
Starting point is 00:06:02 There was the catchphrase, bish, bash, bosh, that Greg gave her because she was doing things real straightforward um jessica nappet yeah i think only lost by one point you see um just really creative of all of her tasks i agree uh threw herself into everything threw herself off the stage at one point onto the floor and uh i didn't see it. I was blindfolded at the time. Yeah. But I heard it.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I mean, we're paddling around, aren't we? Because I agree with those two. I thought they were both very good. I think they would have done very well on any other series. Yes, so far. Maybe we should dive headlong into the pool of faeces that was the remaining three people. Well, I don't think the other three were a pool of faeces.
Starting point is 00:06:43 No, Rod was quite good. Rod was quite good. Rod was quite good. Yes, so let's start with him. Rod Gilbrets. Fantastic. You know, really utilised his friendship with Greg a lot of the time to give him a bit of leverage.
Starting point is 00:06:58 That was smart. And also really made use of Alex all the time. Yeah, very clever. Sprayed water up his bum at one point and stuff like that very good and really you know he would really think about his tasks long and hard
Starting point is 00:07:14 any other series no one else would have thought that much about their tasks he would have defeated the people so now it's you and Phil left place bottom I think I guess your second from last phil was last yes phil wang was last but again in any other series he would have won and i was explained explain that well phil had a very nice outfit that everyone still talks about to this day that
Starting point is 00:07:40 you wore for all of the tasks and he he was just on Greg's bad side. I don't know what he did. Maybe down the walk to the studio or something like that to upset Greg, said something out of turn. But he was getting penalised left, right and centre for stuff he didn't deserve. Because of his outfit, we were getting penis eyes. Oh, I see what you mean.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yes, yes. But he had a catchphrase. He kept on saying that he haggled for stuff. That's got to be worth some points. And just very good at thinking, you know, the way that Phil would think about tasks was he would just kind of try and think of a different task and kind of do that.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And that was quite clever. So I love Phil to bits, but he was quite bad at a lot of the tasks. So immediately he wouldn't have won any other series. He interpreted them differently. Yeah, wrongly. James, how would you have won any other series? Tell me. Through being great.
Starting point is 00:08:35 On so many of my tasks, I did really well. And it was just unlucky that there was a bunch of other people on the same series as me who were also amazing. And we were all so good. But I'd always think, again, i had a different way of thinking about it and i'd really throw myself into it i used my knowledge of the show i watched so many episodes of the show i really knew my way around the house yeah well well yeah you won on your series which was let's face it dutch central you're on the credits as a task consultant and there's always a lot of chat about that online what does tim actually do to be the task consultant it is is it like a regular
Starting point is 00:09:16 salaried job there's quite a lot of chat offline actually mainly coming from alex going why why should i put you on the credits yeah the online chat room sounds a lot like alex phoning me it's the it's the old what do you actually do chestnut isn't it my my one my one worry about coming on this show so can we just focus on can we just focus on me as a contestant yes we don't we can we don't need to drill down onto the actual minutiae of what i do in my role as i know it's i know it's a slight problem it's the elephant in the room i get that it's just the first thing on my list tim the way you talk about it it's as if i never come up with any tasks and it's all coming from alex's head and we've got a
Starting point is 00:10:01 gentleman's agreement that my name just stays on the credits. There must be a task to it. There must be at least one task every series that you come up with or help with, right? Oh, you do me an honour. Thanks, Ed. It's smoke and mirrors. I mean, I don't know. I'm sure Alex doesn't want me to sort of discuss
Starting point is 00:10:22 which tasks are his and which task is mine well look we have an we have an informal agreement we uh we meet up well obviously that's in a way the pandemic has actually um just put the final nail in the coffin of my task consultancy because now the the meeting up bit has gone as well. Yeah, you can't even go for a pint. That's what we would do. We'd sort of go to, there's a pub quiz in his village and we'd go to the pub quiz and in between we'd sort of say, well, have you had any tasks that are sort of to do with vinegar or stools or dartboards or anything like that? So Alex comes up with all the tasks during the pub quiz and you go maybe they could do a quiz yeah yeah after about four or five five bites i'm just sort of looking at a barman and say can we make them all dress up like him or something is there something in that okay well we won't we won't drill down into that further
Starting point is 00:11:20 tim we'll we'll focus we'll focus on you as a contestant in Taskmaster I think I'm a very very efficient sounding board for for Alex but I would concede that other people could equally do that soundboard role who buys the drinks in that scenario well Alex because I'm there as his task consultant I see I said now I'm now I'm beginning to see. Now I'm beginning to see the setup. I'm beginning to see why it's a pretty sweet job for old Tim Key. I heard that you've had Nish on the podcast, right? I got tweeted saying that he had a bit of chat
Starting point is 00:12:06 about how competitive we are, which is stupid. It's fair, would you say? I mean, when it was established that me and you were going to be on the same series, Nish and my girlfriend were both absolutely devastated because they knew that it would be it would bring out the worst in both of us it was gonna potentially break up a friendship i think yeah but thankfully it didn't but no yeah they were really scared there was a lot of chat there was a lot of chat on the text threads
Starting point is 00:12:43 about how awful this was going to be and how insufferable we would be. The thing is that Nish is such a... Would you say he's not a competitive person? When he knows he's not good at something, he'll be the opposite of competitive. He'll deliberately be worse and just screech laughing every time he messes something up.
Starting point is 00:13:01 He'll be a chaos element. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's true we did invite him into the um into the fold the escape room fold for a brief uh for a brief time that is actually not bad there yeah no because he's he's the chaos element he also when we've played board games with nish before as well he won't take it seriously enough it's quite frustrating but you know he's an entertainment value he's a he's got entertainment value and We've played board games with Nish before as well. He won't take it seriously enough. It's quite frustrating. But you know, he's an entertainment value.
Starting point is 00:13:27 He's got entertainment value. And that's what we'll say about Nish. Yeah, exactly. But I can't imagine anything worse than being on a team in Taskmaster with Nish. I think that would be my worst nightmare. Oh my gosh. I'd kill him. I'd kill him.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I'd actually kill him. It'd be the first example of like a proper crime on Taskmaster it would be awful they'd be like well we can't edit around it because it happened like we know it happened may as well show it we'll have to censor it quite a lot
Starting point is 00:13:57 but we'll have to do it because we have to explain why he isn't in the live shows so yeah they'd have to open it because we have to explain why he isn't in the um and the the live shows so yeah yeah they'd have to open with that task right on that on that series they'd have to be welcome uh here's your competitors and there'd be an empty chair and you'd have to open with a team task where you killed nish kuma and then just carry on with the rest of the series i'm zooming from prison yeah or just i'm a little cage just they still want me in the just a little cage
Starting point is 00:14:27 yeah yeah they've agreed to let just me come in a little cage uh still in prison sort of a portable prison because they want the banter yeah and uh yeah or just i send a lawyer to Welcome Kerry Godliman to the Taskmaster podcast. Thank you so much for coming on. Oh, it's an honour. Is it an honour? I think so. I feel like I'm part of an alumni that i'm really chuffed to be a part of well you're you're part of an elite alumni of course because uh you are in the winners hall of fame that's what i've decided to call it very tenuously if we unpick that it's one point in sausage or finger that is it's very tenuous my uh my place in that in that role call i don't think because no because i think
Starting point is 00:15:27 you needed to be you needed to be consistent you need to be good you need to be strong throughout the series to get to the point where it was down to one point in sausage or finger so obviously shout out to jess napper who's been on the podcast before who was one point away from it was so nearly hers it was so yeah did that make you feel uh more excited and better about the victory that it was only one point in sausage or finger or did it did it make it did it sort of take the sheen off it at all uh i tell you what honestly without wanting to sound like a wanker i was so happy that there was no sheen to remove it was all just good times and she's so lovely we'd all had such fun and at that last bit I just genuinely didn't know if it had gone my way or her way we
Starting point is 00:16:14 knew it was close yeah and and I was just giddy I genuinely was like oh this is all we're winning we're all winning I think sausage or finger might go down in history as the tensest studio task in Taskmaster history. Oh, man, it was so intense. It was so intense. And in that moment, there were bits of that that I was so focused. I don't think I've ever been more focused. I felt like Luke Skywalker. I just...
Starting point is 00:16:40 I just... The intensity of me trying to channel, what's that sausage? what's that finger? You are responsible for one of my favorite Taskmaster moments. I'm very, I'm a very, I'm a very basic man when it comes to humor. I chuckle at very standard things.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And what am I going to say, Jess? When I fell off the stage, Jess. When you fell off the stage when you fell off the stage of course you but you had to do a funky a funky walk was it and then hit the drum at the end yeah you had to do the silliest walk everyone else is blindfolded you had to do the silliest walk and then there was some sort of timing to it it had to take 10 seconds or anything obviously it took me a little bit longer than 10 seconds because what i did was i thought i'll pretend to fall off the stage because that will make greg laugh and that'll be silly so i pretended and then i did my pretend recovery and then i
Starting point is 00:17:37 actually fell off the stage it was perfect oh it was so good and then but everyone was genuinely quite concerned. Yeah, there's a moment where Greg leapt up from his chair where I was like, oh no, this might be serious because he's really worried about this. But then I was like, well, they've left it in the edit. So it's probably not, she's probably not dead at least. If I had have died doing that,
Starting point is 00:17:57 I definitely would have liked them to have aired it. Yeah, oh, for sure. It felt like- As a tribute. Have you seen Catchphrase? When that clip from Catchphrase where the presenter appears at the top of the stairs in the audience to run down to start the show? And he trips and falls down the stairs. And then it immediately hard cuts to him in the studio being like, well, that was two days ago and I broke my foot.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It felt like they might do that. They used to let you fall off and then they cut to later and you're sat on the set. Oh, it would have been great, wouldn't it? That moment I now am sort of most known for and that's the thing that I probably get messaged about the most. Well, you've made a lasting effect on Taskmaster more than a lot of people do
Starting point is 00:18:42 because they've named that stage after you. I know. It's the Nappit stage. It's called the Nappit. I know. I got a little photo message from Andy D, the director. I was absolutely delighted. I'd just like to focus on the phrase human tapas there, Kerry. I knew you'd like that. I've never heard that before. Absolutely brilliant. That could be a new name for Taskmaster if there's ever like...
Starting point is 00:19:13 Totally. If Marvel ever sue Taskmaster for using the name Taskmaster because that is a villain in the Marvel Universe. They could go to human tapas. They could go to human tapas. You've got to have a little bit of everything. everything absolutely it's a really important thing to bear in mind when you're putting together a taskmaster cast human tapas if you were to compare your series series seven yeah uh and everyone's a different dish on a tapas menu yes i love what What tapas dish would you say you are? A staple, I think, like a potato-based.
Starting point is 00:19:47 A patatas bravas. Is that what it is, a patatas bravas? Yeah. That's who I am. That is what I am. And then James was like something a bit experimental where you're like, let's just give it a go. Let's just try that.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Like a prune wrapped in bacon, maybe. Yes, yes. Where it might work out and yeah but it might not yeah uh yeah i think i'm a more sort of solid potato based thing i mean obviously we're going to have to go through everyone you you will have to steer this because your knowledge of food is far superior to mine i'll take what i'll take what i'll take what you say and i'll work out what spanish dish best best relates to it okay so rod rod would be quite a fiery i'd say like a peppery meaty sort of situation do you know what i mean like chorizo yeah totally chorizo all the way uh which gets us back on the sausage theme so this is yeah this is linking up. What do you reckon Phil Wang... What was Phil Wang doing? There were moments...
Starting point is 00:20:49 Given his costume, we should have picked Jeretho for him as well. Yes, that's true. God, what would Phil be? He'd be an omelette. He'd be a sort of omelette thing. Yeah, like a tortilla type thing. Tortilla, absolutely. A tortilla.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Now, why would Phil be a tortilla? Because he's wearing a yellow suit. That's the way. And then, Jess, what do you think? What do you think for Jess? The thing is, you and Jess were so close. Maybe the issue was you were both patatas bravas. Yeah, maybe we were both patatas.
Starting point is 00:21:17 One of us had a more cheese base and the other one a chilli twist. Yeah. Slight differences. Yeah, maybe Jess would be like a croquettas like a what's that uh it's sort of like a deep fried crispy thing uh with like ham and cheese on the inside lovely it's delicious it is a staple of tapas yeah but it's got a little bit of flair how do you feel about that for jess yeah no that sounds perfect the flair is definitely how I
Starting point is 00:21:46 would describe Jess did you find that doing it was it a nice was it a nice break from everything going on in the world a hundred percent yeah and you know what I'll be honest with you because when I got offered it, it wasn't that I was hesitant to do it because I always was like, yeah, I would do it. But I had that thing in the back of my head. I was like, is it kind of what, is it the right tone for something? You know, is it like, is it kind of the thing I want to be doing right now? And, you know, but I'll be honest with you, man.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Like it was such a blessing to just be silly because it's been such a long time since I've been able to be silly and just, and have fun with that and not, and not take yourself mad serious. And, you know, and, and so. Yeah. Cause I guess it's a, it's a different tone to stuff you've done in the past bearing in mind, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:38 you've done documentaries where you've gone around talking to hate groups and stuff in America. And this is, this is not that, I mean, Alex has obviously got some awful awful hatred uh opinions but um i mean listen oh he told me don't get it he showed me a few youtube documentaries if you get what i'm saying it's just a guy's voice saying have you ever wondered did you go okay it's gonna be but no it's um yeah man it was and you know what like even just like behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:23:05 stuff i don't know how much behind the scenes stuff you want to hear but like it was just it's just a nice crew it runs smooth yeah it's just and it was just generally like a fun show to do like i remember like being excited to go work again and that was you know but it was fun as fuck man i can't even front man it's a fun it's a fun show and i understand why people are so into it i think that was kind of the thing that threw me off a bit is i didn't realize i know of the show and stuff but i didn't realize how into it people were oh yeah i mean there's a podcast about it yeah that's how into it people are people people just hoover up any taskmaster content they're obsessive i did a joke on my twitter where i was like um i'll be on taskmaster tonight giving minimal effort because you know he said that on my twitter where i was like um i'll be on taskmaster tonight giving
Starting point is 00:23:46 minimal effort because you know he said that's my cat my character is i kind of i don't really care too cool for school like that's kind of the character i go for and then someone messaged me saying don't ruin this for me and i was like oh damn this is intense bro where people are like do not ruin it was so it was so much heart in that tweet just like please don't ruin this this is all we have at the moment yeah with your nonchalantness so your kids are big fans of the show like you say uh i know everyone says these things almost because to a point of irritation i mean yeah they they they watched i mean obviously i'm a comedian so the last thing i want to do is watch comedy in the evening yeah my attitude is if it's not it's not got subtitles a child's been kidnapped i'm not interested it's got to be miserable really
Starting point is 00:24:38 miserable and so the fact that you know i love a Alex and Greg, but I'm not going to pretend that I was glued to Taskmaster any more than I was to any panel game. I just haven't watched enough of those things because it's a busman's holiday, right? But this show was on endlessly in our house. And I mean, like, back-to-back episodes, whole series in one day, just endless. And then, of course, they reach a certain age where then the
Starting point is 00:25:07 younger daughter grows up and then they want her to watch it so they do yeah they're on about the third box set of the whole thing they know everybody from that show and that show alone so when i did a radio show with sally phillips they couldn't believe that sally phillips from taskmaster was here and i oh, was she in it? And they were like, series four, came third, or whatever. I've probably got that fact wrong. Yeah, you have. You've probably known it.
Starting point is 00:25:32 You're probably like, my children. So they know everything. And then, of course, you get to the next stage where we had to then start making it. They film it on a phone and make episodes at home. So we have to take part. He edits it, the eldest child we watched the version of the show that he's made yeah tricky little tasks he's made up you know yeah so then the game came out I see this is a bit of a therapy session came out so that that's
Starting point is 00:26:00 the whole new world of involvement in our house yeah Yeah. And then, of course, I'm in it. And it's like, it's just every second. I've done anything, it's finally over, and then I've got to come and do the podcast. I mean, when's it going to end? on the screen romesh was it an experience you you enjoyed because let's get straight into it your vibe your vibe generally is pretty annoyed right i uh i i my recollection of enjoying Taskmaster was that I enjoyed it and then I was asked to come onto this podcast and then I was sent the recording
Starting point is 00:26:53 when you text me about coming onto the podcast I was very clear about the fact that you wouldn't watch it back I wouldn't watch it back right because I'm not happy with how I came across on the show right had you seen any of had you seen any of it before i've seen clips but the truth is i've got to balance it up against the fact that i hate everything i do so there's that there is that but you know
Starting point is 00:27:16 hang on you hate everything you do so you basically can't put on the telly telly uh yeah well i don't i i tend not to but like um i um i was every time i'd see a clip because obviously taskmaster at the time that i did it or that we did it rather we didn't know what it was going to become obviously it's a monster now at that time it was very much we're just sort of seeing what happens. And now I constantly find myself tagged in where they're trying to talk about the best moments or key tasks in the history of Taskmaster. And every time I watch myself, every time there's a clip they put up of me,
Starting point is 00:28:00 I just watch it and I go, just calm down, you prick. Do you know what I mean? Is it worth getting that? We're getting so worked up you know like because I do get worked up the reason I got worked up on Taskmaster is because I am shit at everything and so
Starting point is 00:28:13 you try and counteract that with passion but do you know what I mean and so that's kind of where that came from but now when I watch it back, I think it just feels a bit disproportionate to the situation. Welcome, Catherine, to the Taskmaster podcast. Oh, thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:28:40 We're very, very happy to have you, a contestant on season 10, of course. So not that far gone. I suppose it's a while ago for you, but in terms of the viewers, you've not been long off the screens. No, and it feels like a fresh experience still in my mind. You know, I'm still sort of recovering. I'm still sort of recovering. I was going to say, the way you said fresh experience there didn't necessarily give it a qualitative level of it was a nice experience or a good experience. It was a positive trauma. Okay, so sort of like the sort of thing they did in, like, 70s experiments.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah, yeah, exactly. That, you know, ultimately it was a good thing, but it was quite painful on the way. No, I mean, you know what? I absolutely loved Every Minute. I do think that having watched, you know, the new bunch and previous bunches, we did all seem quite hysterical.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And I think that's probably because we were, you know, in the throes, early throes of the pandemic, because I just remember, I mean, that really is quite significant because I think we hadn't seen other people. Because I just do remember us all being quite out of control with laughing, which, you know, I don't want to look indulgent. It's just it was just, you know, you know, laughing as is, you know, a hysterical and hysterical response to stress. And I think that's kind of it was sort of a breakdown that was going on for all of us.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And, you know, just to reassure any viewers out there, I did, you know, when you put your name into Google and they have suggested search ideas that come up. And since the show, Catherine Parkinson, mental health is. health is I just want to reassure any concerned people that well I mean you know that I really enjoyed myself I really enjoyed myself even though I looked like I was having a really bad time and crying. It was tears of laughter. And I love nothing more than celebrating my incompetence. It's my favourite thing. So it was all great. Googling it is funny, though. Just going like, is she all right?
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Starting point is 00:32:37 Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. But it's like, it's funny because I say to people, sometimes you do shows that look really fun and you're like, yay. And then you get there, you're like, oh, it's okay. It's not, but Taskmaster is as fun as it looks like it is. It was just pure joy. And Alex Horne is like the world's nicest man. So when you spend the day doing tasks, also I thought I'd done absolutely phenomenally incredible at all my
Starting point is 00:33:11 tasks I literally my friend Camilla is a huge fan of the show and she was like how did you do and I was like spoiler I did amazing and I truly thought I did so like when I watched it back I was like oh okay okay that was you have no concept, do you? Exactly. It's always a mistake, I think, to think that you've done either very well or very badly. I think it's safer to think you've done badly and then you can only be surprised.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It's the old exam technique. You've got to assume you've done badly. Yeah, pretty much. That definitely came across in your episode, I think, as well, that you were so surprised that you hadn't beaten everyone in everything. Like the donut on the cactus. I have issues about that. I'm not happy.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I literally, on the day, right? So I ran out of the house and they had that sort of crystal maze dome thing. And I saw the giant cactus and I was like, oh my God, like this is sent from God. This is perfect. So I brought it in and put it down and then I just put and the donut went you know it went through and I said Alex can you confirm to me don't I don't let me a gamma um Alex was like yeah it's through and I was like
Starting point is 00:34:16 okay and then I was like can I do what I want so I made a lovely fancy man it was a tribute to Alex and I sort of dressed him up in a suit and i was like that's class and it was really massive so do you feel like you've been betrayed somewhat by alex because he he did he did clarify that your donut was through the cactus was through the donut i feel betrayed that this is yeah i'm gonna like start a rap beef with alex i have to learn to rap first we're gonna be like the frankie and amen of 2021 alex we're in the rivalry um but yeah i know it's very generous of you nicola to say that it's you who needs to learn how to rap to have a rap battle with alex i feel like he might he might have to do
Starting point is 00:34:58 some prep work as well i think probably but it was funny because i became one of those really bitter people online that people started sending me tweets like, you were robbed with a cactus. And I was like, like, like, like, yes, I was. And I was like, step away, step away from Twitter. Do you have any fond memories of Taskmaster Paul that particularly stick out of your time on the show? Fond memories. Maybe that bastard's crying in it seems to be repeated to me a lot this was the uh snowman task you had to uh get uh ingredients and build a snowman yeah um and uh yours was a particularly sad looking rabbit wasn't it you
Starting point is 00:35:40 got a rabbit and put it in some ice and gave it tears and said bastards crying in it which has gone down in the task the taskmaster hall of fame yeah i'm not quite sure that i was actually trying to play that game quite seriously and i don't appreciate being mocked this way and taken for a joke well i i think that was to your credit paul i think that's what a lot of people really enjoyed about your performance on Taskmaster, because people still do quote your legendary task back. And I think no one knows quite what angle you're coming at it from, whether you're taking it seriously, whether you're taking it the least seriously out of anyone ever, because you keep such a poker face that no one knows what's going on in your head, Paul.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I took it very seriously, as I do with life. You know, I went out there to win the series and i didn't win i won one episode well you won one episode which is you know some people have never won an episode which which is uh which is very sad but yes you won one episode um and when you won that episode it was a moment. I remember that being a huge moment that you'd finally won an episode. Can you tell us how that felt? You know, it was a long time coming when I finally won that episode. And you could just see the look on the other contestants' faces who never had any belief in me.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Where are they now? Are they doing the Ed Gamblemaster podcast well no exactly you don't remember who half of them are anyway i don't even know who i don't i don't keep in touch with these people i'll be honest with you the only person i've kept in touch with is you and that's because i have to talk to you now I actually don't think, Josh, that in the history of Taskmaster you are one of the most competitive people. I actually think you're quite laid back
Starting point is 00:37:38 in the scheme of things. Obviously, Series 1, pretty competitive, most competitive guy in the series, I'd say. No, I'm not the most competitive man in the series. Who are you thinking, Tim Key? No. I'm not going to name the person,
Starting point is 00:37:55 but I heard from the director that when I won the... So you're aware that I got an extra point because they did a trick on me, which was to make me count the tin of beans. Yes. And then they gave me the extra point. And apparently I won the series by one point, and I won't say who it was,
Starting point is 00:38:18 but when the director was doing the edit, they announced me as the winner by one point, and they just heard, the fucking beans point. Now, I've got to say, I would be that person saying that, because the beans point, especially, it was only six episodes,
Starting point is 00:38:38 you know, you won by one point, of course. You should, like, I said the same thing. Series 10, Richard Heron got given his own task. He got, like, five points for it. that's that's unfair that's that's totally wrong i the reason i think i deserved the beans point yeah is they made a decision the beans point i deserve the beans point everyone deserved a chance at a beans point well no but wait wait this i think i'm seeing this as an overall task right is that it's more of a holistic task right so um which was they made a decision as to who would
Starting point is 00:39:14 take the beans thing the best right i.e who was the most placid person so in a way the task was who is the most placid person gets an extra point so you're saying the person who got angry about the beans point wouldn't have taken the beans task well if it was given to them um it would be a two it would be impossible for me to comment Lazy one with no creativity in her bones at all. Well, you say the lazy one, but you lent into the lazy thing so perfectly that it was, you know, it didn't feel lazy. You actually put a lot into the effort of being lazy, which renders it not lazy, I think. Well, yeah, I hope not. lazy i think well yeah i hope not i mean i i kind of weighed things up and i thought there's no way that i'm gonna win this because i'm because i have like such a weird life sometimes i have like
Starting point is 00:40:12 really brilliant days but i'm very inconsistent so i knew i was gonna have one day where i just went totally all wrong probably started crying and i think it was that one where there's loads of stuff hanging on the ceiling and I didn't even notice it. And then Alex went, can you name as many things that were hanging from the ceiling as possible? And I went, was there stuff hanging from the ceiling? That sort of thing. A bit like when Catherine did her, where's the frying pan panic?
Starting point is 00:40:40 We're not doing the frying pan, where is it? I really empathise with that but you didn't really panic in any of those situations you're just like oh well move on next one well that's true but that's because it didn't really warrant it when I was a psychiatric nurse working in a 24-hour walk-in emergency clinic the sort of emergencies that did warrant it and there was nothing in taskmaster that was anywhere near as scary to be honest. Yeah see I don't have that level of life experience or perspective where I could sort of draw on my experience as a psychiatric nurse and go well this doesn't really matter does it for me things hanging from the ceiling that is the biggest panic
Starting point is 00:41:19 I've ever had in my life so. Well you see the thing was actually in in some ways to be a winner which of course you were you did exactly the right thing you were very competitive you reminded me of my little brother when he's about 11 uh who he would he would kind of do anything to stop me winning um including sort of breaking like you know i used to play tennis a little bit where and and playing tournaments and that he actually broke my tennis racket once so that he could win the game. I'm not implying that you're like that, that you're violent, but you are a good competitor. And I think I'm not sure I would break your tennis racket.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'd maybe hide your tennis racket. Yeah, fair enough. I think that's I think that's the level. it. Yeah fair enough. I think that's the level. Do you have any favourite task memories from our season? Now obviously not noticing the things hanging from the ceiling is a painful task memory but do you have any highlights? Well I quite enjoyed singing Jerusalem in the back of a car to Alex which was a way of waiting for an egg to boil perfectly. And what was so satisfying about it was it actually worked as well. And I think it was the perfect consistency. I think you, yeah, I think you won that task, didn't you? It was the perfect jammy consistency.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And I have since tried that. I do sing Jerusalem when I'm boiling an egg now. So that's had a long lasting effect on my life. Let's hope that's being repeated all over the country when would you say would did we come closest to breaking up the friendship? I think, well, maybe a couple of times. So first time I can remember is when I and the team task, when the thing fell off my head. I've never seen someone look so disappointed in me. Disappointed, angry, and like trying to hold it together because the camera's on us and you can't actually you can't actually just go what the fuck was that
Starting point is 00:43:31 but the thing is is that when you looked at me with utter disdain in that moment what what kind of gets us through that is that i understand because i would be doing the exact same so i think i think when two people are intensely competitive. They also respect the behaviour of that other person. When someone else fails them. So then. And then. But I think true competition.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I think. I think every show. Like it's a mini competition. To win that episode. And as like. As the show goes on. And you know. You tally up each episode that you're winning because we won individually like we won quite a few episodes yeah by ourselves right and i think i think it's it's just before it's just before the live task that's when it's like
Starting point is 00:44:21 yeah like yeah have a good one out there like the fun stops the fun stops immediately completely stops because because like and i think maybe you and i really go into our own heads like before the life task being like oh this is where i could either redeem myself or this is where i have to defend my position and we would take it so seriously and and so I think that's when the friendships could have I think if either of us had a complete uh sense of humor failure in those moments can I can I tell you the moment that I think that we genuinely nearly not that we genuinely nearly came to blows because I think it was you who was the angry one but i was enjoying you being angry a lot uh it was whenever broadly the situation was whenever you were so proud of something you'd done and you couldn't wait for it to be shown on the
Starting point is 00:45:12 on the show uh and then when it didn't necessarily go down as well as you're expecting which i think everyone feels but it was the serenades when we had to to do the self serenades and you were so proud of what you'd done, I think we got the same amount of points or I did better than you. But either way, I think we got the same because I was like, hey, we got the same. We both did well. We got the same.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And you were so angry that we got the same. I was angry. I was angry because I feel like i mean in retrospect i shouldn't have been angry but i do feel like i composed an entire song played an instrument you did some sort of genre kind of whatever your heavy metal business etc and uh i think you you i mean i i would still say that I think, in my opinion, mine was, it didn't deserve to be equal. So here's what I like about that sentence is you started it by saying, in retrospect, I shouldn't have been angry. And then you went on to say that you still feel exactly the same way.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I mean, I can't lie there's no smeller sweeter as my little chicka teeta i'm hoping that it's okay if i order a bouquet low lights definitely a golf course one when i was doing that task i just i i knew it was going to cut together so badly i could already imagine it being played on television you know did you ever have those sort of out of body moments where you're like i can see this being played on television and people going why are you so dumb yeah yeah most of them i think yeah that for me was a real and i was dreading that task and also there were a whole lot of tasks that we filmed that they didn't put to air yeah so i was hoping oh maybe they won't play that one like maybe the golf
Starting point is 00:47:12 because it was in the final episode so we'd gone nine episodes and i was like oh my god yeah that's the worry that's the worry isn't it when you're there going either it's out the edit or it's such a disaster that they've saved it for the final episode and when that so how did you feel when alex announced that as the final task of the series i thought oh now our hero's in trouble but then i thought but maybe lee will have done something so stupid that yeah it's okay you're just praying lee's trousers fall down or something yeah, or he pooed himself and they had to get it. Which, I mean, in the context of this series,
Starting point is 00:47:52 wouldn't be that unbelievable, really. No, no, exactly. So I kind of thought, oh, maybe Lee, maybe he was just as stupid and then he smashed it. And I was watching and I was like, oh, that's how you do the task. Oh, God, that's how you do the task. And then when they went, now we're going to play Sarahah's i was like oh good lord okay and then i kind of thought oh this will be the sort of knife edge thing where i lose my unassailable lead yeah i mean that you can always tell when they're showing back a task in the way
Starting point is 00:48:18 they've edited it quite how chaotic it is because they'll do a quick music change and that's what they had to do for you and it's charlotte run and then it goes to fast music and you're like oh no they played the song the title track dumb shit oh they're playing the dumb shit song okay dumb shit.mp4 yeah oh god 90 both left 90, both, left. Oh! Jamali, turn, walk. Both turn, walk.
Starting point is 00:49:01 But, you know, I had a great time. The only thing that hurt my feelings a little bit was Greg's response to my clay masks. Well, this came up, we obviously asked for emails on this podcast and people knew that you were coming on the podcast and we did have quite a few emails asking about the clay masks and whether you were all right after Greg made fun of your clay masks. Well, I mean, I'm all right. And he did apologise on camera and off. But I haven't made any since.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Oh, no. Well, you know, Greg's kind of got to live with that. He crushed your spirit. Well, I think he did a bit. I mean, the thing is, I was making so many at the time of doing... I mean, I was doing probably like one a day, you know. That's a lot. And then after that recording, I haven't...
Starting point is 00:49:59 I've got a lot of Daz clay sitting around still and it's all remained unopened. I'm not, you know, it's fine. But there was a bit of genuine hurt there, I'm afraid. Cause they are, some of them are quite good. Some of them have artistic merit. Look, I like the clay masks, but that felt like a genuine moment of tension
Starting point is 00:50:20 in the studio because there was a moment where Greg stopped making fun of you and just started saying they were really good and then at the end richard was like holding them up because he won the episode going it's really good so sweet what a lovely dear thing to do i really appreciated that um and quite like somebody from the art department came up afterwards and said by the way those clay masks some of them are really good really good. It was the pity that made it worse, actually, because people sort of, you know, reassuring me that some of them were quite good.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I don't need that. I'm an artist and, you know. Well, it turns out you did need some reassurance because you've not made any sense. I haven't, no. But, I mean, it might be because I've moved on to acrylics. Oh, OK, sure. Task two, stage a realistic blooper from a home movie.
Starting point is 00:51:17 The taskmaster will give points to the best filmmakers. You have one hour. Your time starts now. Any memories of this? There was a sharp inhalation of breath when I read out the task description because because i i think this might be the most embarrassing thing in terms of how comedically pathetic what we did was well i i i've written a couple of notes for this go go go one of my notes which i wasn't going to read out loud is this might be the most embarrassing task in Taskmaster history. It is so... It is so... It is so unfunny, what we did.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And I mean specifically you, Josh and Roshan. I mean, that... Sorry, yeah. So it's Tim and Frank, and then me, Josh and Roshan. And we have to do a blooper video, like something you might see on You've Been Framed. And for some reason, Josh, Roshan and I decided to do a realistic blooper.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I mean, it was an insane decision. The whole reason that those videos are funny is because they happened by accident. What isn't funny? And whenever anybody gets a faintest sniff that something might have been set up when they're watching it's not funny anymore so then what we do is by design make a blooper video i mean i i it's so because you're right it is the most because it just shows a lack of comedic such a lack of comedic understanding from the three of us
Starting point is 00:52:45 especially for three all three of you then went on to have your own sitcoms in which you played the leads this is not a good audition for that
Starting point is 00:52:54 I hate it I hate what you did yeah I hate it it's really there's no I don't think there's a single redeeming element to it at all,
Starting point is 00:53:05 apart from maybe we all arrived on time. What I quite liked about yours, and this is, you know, I don't know if you remember this coming up. So the setup is obviously, it's like backstage behind the scenes in Taskmaster. And where they see you, where they catch you on the video
Starting point is 00:53:24 is that uh i think you're doing a task where you have to count uh hundreds and thousands now this to me seems like josh has suggested that for the video because he previously has had to count beans and rice and all of that but he didn't know he was the only person who was doing that. So on the day, do you remember him suggesting that? Yeah. Oh, well you can do, we can do it with counting hundreds and thousands.
Starting point is 00:53:50 And then you and Roshan sort of going, yeah, all right, mate. I don't know. That sounds like, that sounds like a really shit task, Josh.
Starting point is 00:53:56 But if you think that's something that might come up in taskmaster, then yeah, absolutely. It's in, it's in keeping with what the show's been doing yeah all right Josh yeah put my own twist on it with the hundreds and thousands it's a different food item I've never talked to Josh and Roisin about we talked about a lot to do with Taskmaster
Starting point is 00:54:24 never spoken about that because I think all of us it's a bit of a and I know what you did last summer moment for us do you know what I mean it's sort of best left unspoken quite a good thing for bonding with people I i think you you establish a real chemistry with the people you're on uh like in in my series we all went out for afternoon tea we all met up afterwards um great did you and your did you and your cast do anything after the show
Starting point is 00:54:59 so um so in the in the green room after we'd finished everything there was a lot of um i think spirits were pretty high and um there was i think in one of the episodes something had maybe i'd i can't remember what it was there was some task or maybe it was a prize that someone had to bring in but someone brought in um tickets for two to go to cologne yeah right so in the green room when we'd finished it or in the bar we made a pact that we'd all go to cologne and uh in my mind as you do in my mind when you make a pact to all go to cologne you go to cologne so then i'm emailing and then i'm set and then i'm sending out um flights and then people are booking flights and um it's it it sounds a bit churlish to say people are flaky when what they're not doing is you know pulling out of going to dinner at the last minute. They're actually, in the end, not going to Cologne for 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:56:07 But I think then Roche got... Genuinely, I think she got, have I got news for you, which is quite a big deal. Yeah. Romesh, I can't remember what his thing was. Greg, no, no, not so much. Alex then. Alex had something or other going on.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Oh, hang on. What's that? That's Alexa. I think it's because I've... I think you are asking for the song missing. Is that right? That's genuinely because I said Alex. No, no, stand down.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Stand down. Did you want the song missing? Stand down. Okay. So... Coming Around Again is available with Amazon Music Unlimited, which lets you play over 60 million songs. Stand down. Cancel any time.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Terms in the Alexa app. Should I start your free trial and play Coming Around Again? Yes. No! Okay. You can sign up any time now. play coming around again yes okay right you are so so anyway me me and Josh are now on a train in Bedford somewhere
Starting point is 00:57:27 we're going to Luton I don't know and I remember Josh we met at the platform both coming out of London in different directions so now we're at a platform getting on a train to go to the airport, just me and Josh and Frank's meeting us at the airport
Starting point is 00:57:43 and Josh observes he said because we were supposed to have seven of us going to Cologne and it would have been a mad trip to Cologne with all seven of us and Josh said it's turned from seven of us going to Cologne to me and you taking a 55 year old to Germany. Let's ask you some questions from the Taskmaster public.
Starting point is 00:58:10 This is a good one. Question for Lee. Who would you choose to be on a team with? Rob Brydon or David Mitchell? That's a good question. Who would I be on the team with? Do they mean a Taskmaster team? I believe so, yeah. Well, if it's a Taskmaster team, I would say probably... I sort of want the combination of the two. I'd like the ideas of David, but with these sort of slightly more manual hands of Rob.
Starting point is 00:58:40 But I say more manual hands of Rob. That's in comparison to David. It's all relative. They're both fairly soft to touch it's not the first thing I think of when I see Rob Brydon I don't think manual hands no you when you watch those cruise adverts you don't go oh there he is working hard again the irony of course he is working because he's getting paid yeah yeah uh I mean all I can say is is there any possibility i'm a third option i would i would genuinely hold out for a third option and i'd get yeah and i'd refuse to do the show until even now i'm getting annoyed about the concept so yeah i'm sorry i refuse to film anything yeah so you get it sorted out someone else plays please yeah anybody else not somebody else literally anybody I would
Starting point is 00:59:27 say anyone from the planet apart from two people is my answer and we know those two people are a question from Colin uh quite a simple one what time is it what time is it well okay Colin what time is it the time where I am right now, there's a few times. It's podcast time. It's Ed Gamble time. But also, well, that's what I thought. But TikTok, hang on, is Colin o'clock. I think you could make maybe half a million pounds a year
Starting point is 01:00:02 on the bespoke video messaging service cameo by just getting people to send you their names and you say it's tiktok you o'clock and they'd pay upwards of 30 pounds for that per time fine so between that and the ain't yourself sponsorship then i'm probably i'm pretty set on it that's pretty that's not bad is it look it's not the career wasn't plan a it's it's plan anus and that's just what I've got to deal with now. Hello James, my question is can we get a full rendition of Pants on a Stick on Spotify? That's from Emerson. Well yeah, I mean you know, if you work, Emerson, if you work for a record label, let's talk. We could drop Pants on a Stick. I'd love to have it on Spotify. Are there more verses and choruses
Starting point is 01:00:46 that we didn't hear on the show? Do you think now you could give us a little longer rendition? You know, like in the Fresh Prince theme tune where there's a secret verse that you can only hear on the pilot. Is there more Pants on a Stick? Pants on a stick, waving from side to side. Pants on a stick, whose pants?
Starting point is 01:01:03 My pants, your pants? No, no, they're my pants on a stick whose pants my pants your pants no no they're my pants on a stick they're so clean i put them in my washing machine on pants setting and they came out and i dried those pants i dried them on a stick and i weighed them around until they could fit on my dick thank you james that was wonderful and also well done on resisting the dick rhyme until right at the end so this is so obviously we had a lot of potato one so we've narrowed it down to our favorite potato question sure this is rob from london he says uh my question for joe has he uh been able to look at or eat a potato since his traumatizing disqualification
Starting point is 01:01:44 from the potato task? Also, what would he have voted if it was the other way round? I guess Rob's saying if it was one of the other contestants, would you have voted for them to get the points or not? I would have voted for them to get the points. Absolutely, yes. And that differentiates me from
Starting point is 01:01:59 them as a whole. And yes, I would definitely, because I'd be thinking about their feelings. And has it affected your attitude towards potatoes since then? I'd crinkle cut chips for tea. I think that speaks volumes. Answers the question, doesn't it?
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