Tell Em Steve-Dave - #503: 30 Years of Nuthin’

Episode Date: December 20, 2021

Socially distanced Santa, covid, Bry eats a cracker, Spider-Man, Q gets traumatized

Are you friends with John Fie? No, I'm not friends with John Fie, I wish I was. I'm sure Piggy D likes to hear that. I gotta be honest, it won't be as meaningful. You're coming from your assistant. Things we could do at Elon Musk, we'll put him up against Kiddum in terms of like, you know, who's smarter. Yeah. You know, creation. Tell him, Steve Dave.

Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him, Steve Dave. I'm here with a BQ. Hello. And here with my bro from Brosite Attractions Walt. Yo bro. I heard you've been growing it around without me. Hello and here with my bro from Broseye detractions Walt yo bro I heard you've been growing it around without me. Oh, yeah, yeah, growing it up and down in a flea markets and such We didn't have a camera though. We were going trying to go with little incognito a little, you know No high high profile, you know no cameras. I said trying to snag Recon deals left and right.

G on any? No. So that left nor right. Which one? Which one did you go to? Oh, what to a place all the way down in Smithville, down the way down, Soucher, as he called, Old Town, because it was indoors, because it was raining, had the final place that was indoors. Gotcha. You know, like, I was thinking about Frank V driving

so much as much as he does. And I say that's one of the hallmarks of serial killers, is that they'll drive incredible distances and not care. Like they'll put thousands, and thousands, and thousands of miles of other car. Yeah. I will say this, I cannot believe how willing and gung ho he is to like take some fucking horrendous rides for not

great, not, not fantastic payoffs, you know. It's like, I was looking like, um, at him with, with a lot of like, wow man, that's incredible. A little bit of, he's amazing. But now you're painting in a much darker light. It's a five hour drive, right? Five hour drive, yeah, he came down yesterday, but we're going to hit three flea markets. Only wound up hitting two One was absolutely closed because of the rain which kind of bummed this out, but then we scored

Not you know, he scored his wife scored at At the last place we went to she she wound up spending like 50 bucks on a bunch of trinkets and socks that he was not that happy with bucks on a bunch of trinkets and socks that he was not that happy with. He's really good on you. He's not. If he could... Is there not like an ant-track train or something they could take down? That would cut it down to like two, two and a half hours or something?

No, I don't think so. I think it's like you, if you got from Jersey to where he lives, it's four and a half. And it was six and a half, because there was so much traffic on Friday afternoon, we came down, because of the holidays and he hit rush hour. Yeah. Oh, Frank. Like, forget going from upstate New York to South Jersey, even like living in Jersey, if someone were like,

hey, you want to go to South Jersey for a flea market, I'd be like, ah, this is, are we doing pro side at least? Yeah. I owe him though. Now, I told him the next time we do something I gotta go to him. It's just not fair. It's just not right that he keeps coming this way. He seems to not give a fuck at all though. I, that has to be a facade. Yeah.

There's no way any human being isn't just like, why the fuck is he ever come up by way? It's just human nature. But I haven't seen it yet. He's that, he's that like... He's not good at masking it. Up, up highway. It's just human nature. But I haven't seen it yet. He's that he's that like is that good at masking it up upbeat and yeah like and telling me yeah over again. But if you guys are recording all all the equipment and technical support is down here. Yes. So he can't you what are you going to do drag get them up there now you're stuck in a call with get him for five hours, setting up equipment. Well, that's the thing, we, like this last, this last flea market day trip,

we took, there was no cameras, it was no projects, it was just like, you know, just, I didn't, well, I didn't want to have to be like on, just want to relax and go into flea market, like I did new old days, and that's what we did, but now I feel obligated, like next time I have to go out his way. Yeah. Or I'm being a douchebag, I think.

You've been to stand out in like three times. And all of these years. Well, if you say let's go flea market, I'd be up there a little bit more. So you're gonna go to Boston flea markets, or that's where you're going? Well, upstate staying in New York. You know, we went to his house. I know how far it is.

It's a fucking hike. Yeah, and we were there because of another reason because we were going to a con. It's not like we just went up there to see him. I would though. I think I would if I was going to spend like a day or two. I don't think I'd like, how long did he stay? He didn't just stay the day. He was gone. He took off around 10 30 and he had to because his wife had

to get back for an engagement on Sunday morning. So I'm on right? Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah, here. Okay. Wow. So 10 hours, 10 hours round trip, a full full set of hours. He maintains, you know, he's having such a great time like in just hanging out that it's totally worth it. Yeah, the test will come when it's my turn. See how strong that friendship is. That's a long ride, man. Especially if your wife has an engagement

the next morning, I would want a little bit of a little cushion there Yeah, why did why did not that it's not always great to have misses five around that like why would she even come? Why would she not so well then my wife when it came to leave me a couple thing God yeah, yeah, like they're like we went on the trip to the Grand Canyon yeah, and like the misses Hit it off fantastic. Oh, yeah, they like texted every click. Yeah, they clicked. They had a lot, they have so much in common. Their fathers are carpenters and their fathers are like worked in flooring for their whole

life. They were, there was so many things that they like, we had in common, it was, it was eerie at times and they really yeah they really get all get along. Oh cool that's nice. Yeah so like it's yeah and it's nice to go out with couples I think it's fun. It makes it. It is. Yeah I wouldn't know. Oh please you and you are constantly going places. I never hear. Like we're going here, we're going there, we're going to fucking Barbados. We're going to fucking, I don't know what he ever says anything. I'd never say anything.

Like what fucking flea market we get out of the year? I can't even get a trip. No, it's out of the joint. No, it's out of the joint. I, the other day, Mary Beth was making dinner right I'm curious to see your guys opinion on this She's making dinner and I'm like how long is it gonna take is gonna take like an hour, right? I'm already hungry So I said I was gonna have a couple of peanut butter crackers before dinner and she also have a couple of peanut butter crackers. They won't kill you So now my question is, I go upstairs.

I eat these peanut butter crackers and I choke to death on it. She comes up there, finds me dead. Does she have an obligation to tell people that I told him it wouldn't kill him, but it did anyway? Ooh, well, she shouldn't. She shouldn't say anything. No. She should keep that close to the vest. Right now, she's a victim.

I like she's lost her husband She's right. Yeah, she's gonna cast herself as the villain But no, she's got to live with it. She'll be fine These peanut butter crackers are not familiar with them Is this something that is a cracker that's flavored like peanut butter? Or do you have to put peanut butter on a cracker? Pipping a butter on it. It's like a rich cracker.

Put a little peanut butter on it. Staves off hunger. So are you at stage at your life, in our 20s, I can't imagine you overthink to yourself, why if I eat this peanut butter cracker, I might die. I just need a few. No, I didn't think that. Because now your 50s are like,

wow, if this goes down the wrong way, I might not make it. Anything could be a misstep. Could be curtains for me if I just peanut butter cracker. But then the question went a little, just a hair further into like, because I came back downstairs, and I thought of it when I was upstairs, I was like, what if this happened?

And then I went back upstairs and I said, okay, so what if it happened after the conversation about me dying? Now where's a responsibility? Cause she could have stopped me at any moment. We knew it was a real danger, it could have happened. Yeah, but I mean, it's like, it's like bowling with the bumpers on, man.

Is that how you want to live your life? Or you just want to eat crackers? I want to eat crackers, baby. Don't worry about it. If you go out doing what you love, in this case, being peanut butter crackers, then that's not a bad way to go. I saw a picture today on Reddit. I don't know if you guys do this. Like, I woke up this morning and clicked open the Reddit app. I scrolled down the front page, right? And there's like a photo of open the Reddit app, I scrolled down the front page, right? And there's like a photo of like child soldiers from the 1970s holding the dismembered heads

of other child soldiers. And I was like, what country? I can't even camp on there. Some sort of yeah. And I was like, man, this is a hell of a way to start the day. I'm in the tent for that. Like normally if I click open on Reddit, there's like is a hell of a way to start the day. I didn't intend for that. Like normally, like if I click open on Reddit, there's like a picture of like a dog eating,

eating a treat and like talking like a human for it or stuff like that. Yeah, that's much better way to start the day. Yeah, I like to look at some cute animals shit and then I'll get down like the rabbit hole where I like, suddenly I'll be on like hour two or fucking like bunnies and fucking cute kittens. But this time it was like, it was like,

it was like a blurred out photo and it's in some child soldiers that I wasn't paying attention and it was to capitated heads and it's a fucking 8 a.m. on a Sunday. It really fucked up my day, man. And now it's this, like a rock, rival tribe? I don't know. Like, right there, like on some sort of like, you know,

remote island where there isn't, where like, where they're, yeah, the way the kids are dressed, it looks like they're there. It's, it's, no, no, not, no, they were in like camouflage, like pants and they had the AK 47. Yeah, you got a, as a society, you don't put much weight in the youth and much importance on raising kids

if you're willing to put like an eight year old in a position where he has to cut off another eight year old's head. I gotta tell you, he didn't seem that bothered by it. No, I think that picture assist a second snapshot. I think the rest of that part of our life. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh man, dude, I was like, I hadn't even had like my morning tea. Like, nothing woke me up, but I just saw it to the capitol heads. And I was like, man, I wish I had not clicked. I wish I just clicked on the fucking. There was a video of a cute dog racing a guy in a sled down a snow hill wall. And I didn't click on that. I forgot. Yeah, I went for the heads and I really read it.

I kind of can't see it. No, I can't see it. I can. I wish I can. I don't feel good about it. I think BQ is getting soft in his all day. He tells me the other day that he's like, I can't watch it. I can. I wish I can. I don't feel good about it. I think BQ's getting soft and is all DGT tells me the other day that he's like I can't watch forensic files anymore. Now he doesn't want to look at the Capitated children. I didn't was there a time in her life when you did?

River hard. No, no, no, no, what I said was There's definitely a time where this shit wouldn't have bothered me. That's for sure But I but I didn't say I can't watch forensics fault I said I can't watch hour six of friends Watch it and I can't watch fucking like all day marathon I'm like because I was like it's not even the murders that depressed me It's like the life of the people that are like living around it. It's it's some girls Got shot in the head, but her boyfriend was pimping her out

so they can make rent money, and I'm like, I can't do it anymore, man. I can't do it, but it wasn't, I can't watch it at all. Yeah, but yeah, I'm definitely getting softer than I thought I could. I like soft fluffy cue. Yeah. Like fluff, he's not into the heavy murder and decapitation.

I like he's into dog videos. I like how he's chased people around. Yeah, that's adorable. You think it's just that image? I really hope this isn't somehow he's working on his image. I think there's something coming out. He's trying to get ahead of it now. We're gonna find the heads. We're gonna find the heads. his image. There's something coming out.

We're gonna find the heads. I know what I'll do. I'll say it on like heads. I hope it's a natural progression. What is seriously like take a second to consider like what happens to tell him Steve Dave. I'm assuming jokers is canceled, but tell him Steve Dave I'm assuming Joker's is canceled, but tell him Steve Dave, if it's out that I'm I've killed 43 people and I have their heads, like I'm like one of the crazy serious. He said, did you say you assume my J against canceled? Yeah.

Well, part of that, that fevered brain, do you think that there's some sort of way that they can negotiate, that they can still remain on the air? After that, it was breaks. Well, they still have the dukes of hazard in places, don't they? They agree to just keep running the reruns, but there's no new episodes. There's no new episodes. There's no new episodes. Okay. People, do you think people could still watch the reruns knowing that I like had a like a kill chamber in my house?

I think there's some that can just look past it and just enjoy it for what it is. It's a good show. Can you kill me? Can you kill anybody I know? But what happened? So you're fucking John Wayne Gacy then you're saying? I am. Yeah. I turn up Ryan Quinn turns out to be a John Wayne Gacy type. Everything. You did everything.

You even, oh, it's, there's no talking around it. Like yeah, everything. Even, even like slept with your victims. Oh, yeah. Oh, many days after they died. Look. Many days after they died. Like, say minutes after they died. No, many days after they died. Oh, yeah.

Like, what happens to tell us, see, what do you got? What's been controlled? What's the final question? Yeah. I know Brian's coming to visit me in prison. That's what happened. Well, depends where the prison is.

Upstate New York. That's my Frank Fives house. I made me once a year. Yeah, well, really. Once a year, I'll make that trek. You know, give you something to look forward to. Now, is it better for you guys if I am just like me as I am? And I'm just like, I'm sorry guys, I have a problem. Or is it better if I turn like basically into like

The Joker or how like I just like the veneer comes off and I'm in evil like I'm like well, hello Walter Like you're all like That would be to disturb I mean it's pretty disturbing enough with the with the bodies and everything But yeah, then you're like putting on a new persona and a new personality. I'm like you're meeting the real me for the first time. Again, I know Brian's still coming to visit me. That guy's right. I'm dying man. I fucking know that. I think we're gonna get numbers that you won't believe on the on the episode that that follows the Then the breaking news about this. But I'm not sure like, you know, five episodes after the news breaks that people are sticking around.

They want the reaction. Yeah, I think the reaction. I just think that leaves a bad taste in everybody's mouth is we try to make fucking jokes like we in the past. We a little. Yeah. Try to make fun. But you guys retire or you just like rebrand? I think, yeah, I think it's through.

I mean, we're at an age where we're so close to retirement anyway. If that's not a good enough reason to fucking hang up and turn off the mics for good. Retirement age is 65. You guys aren't close to that. Close enough, though. It's hard to like recover the audience after such news breaks or or you just do a total shift into like true crime type stuff and it's like we know what we're talking about

because we podcasted with a serial killer for 11 years yeah but you guys didn't know who's a fucking serial killer but we know now right but I can up, I could do interviews with you. I mean, people, there would be a certain sense. Yes, you could milk, you could milk the interviews over like over the course of years, every time you go up to the penitentiary, you know, getting, talking to him about like,

tell us, you know, how your first victim and what was going through your head, and you know, you get into the in depth. But again, you're cultivating an entirely new audience. It's not the feel good and anymore. It's like the fucking, the weirdo who said that. It's not the uphill. It's the fucking basement. Yeah. It's a much more darker crowd.

So you think me still calling in once a year to the Christmas episode wouldn't, you Yeah. Well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like,

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well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I'm just like, well, I? I didn't realize that's what Reddit was. Yeah, I think red. Well, I mean, there's the main Reddit page which has like, like all the categories, I guess. So it's yeah, that's what it is. It's just like a right. You have to know page. You got to find your subcategories, right? Like your, your, your, your, that was on the front. Oh, I see. I see.

I go directly to, like I go to directly to subcategories. I don't really go to the front page because there's too much of a mishmash. I don't care. Okay. All right. I got to learn I don't really go on that much You know, the only reason I'm gonna have the app is because of this to get kicked around on this show every I've reviewed a few months when I decide to go to the reddit board and see how we're doing. What might as well be a screen? Oh my god, I guess I'll check back in six months. But yeah, yeah, it was a rough way to start the day, man. But wow, the show ends and you guys don't do anything. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't think I do anything.

I think I try to live out the rest of my days doing nothing. See if I can make that, see if I could swing that. Wow. I mean, it could be 30 years of nothing. Why if I can make that, see if I could swing that. Wow. I mean, it could be 30 years of nothing. I would hope so. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That would be, I'd sign up for that 30 years of nothing. You know, um, I think I could do it once I get into the groove.

You know, once I find my shows, you know, yeah, find what your programs. once I find my shows. Yeah, I'll find what your program says. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Can't sit on this app anymore. Oh really, that's a thing. Can't sit on this lap. Because of COVID or because of perverts. Because of COVID. Oh okay, so it'll go back one day. I thought, you know what, in my head I went to a much more darker area than COVID. I thought maybe that it was like, you know,

I know more kids on Santa Claus' lap because that's kind of pervy. I don't know, that's where my head went. I know that I'm wrong and that's not the case. That's not why you can't sit on Santa Claus' lap. But I don't know why immediately I had to lip-lept to that sinister conclusion. Because it's a dark world, man.

Like it is shocking if you're like, there's a group of Santa's like a whole like underground group of Santa's who like keep in contact. They fucking post pictures on Reddit, like whatever it is they're doing. I have, you know what? I mean, we've seen countless tales of like Catholic priests doing shit like that.

I can't recall one Santa. Like one new story where a Santa acted like inappropriately with a kid on his laptop. That's true. You know, I don't recall any, you know, in the last 30 years. So like, why would I leap to that dark, dark? I can't think it's cute, you know,

getting us off on the wrong spot. I'm talking to the wrong seats in the head. I'm telling you, man, it was dark, dark. I want to see what other stuff and may have I saw. Oh. But yeah, so Santa's sitting at a desk. He looks like a CEO at some like Fortune 500 company.

And there's a kid standing, you know, a pretty good distance away from him. I would say at least eight feet. They say that the line through Santa Land is filled with hand sanitizing stations, social distance warnings, and masked up reindeer. Well, if you get the kids early, like, if that's the norm, then I don't think it's really a big deal. If they were, like, if they're at a gate, like, that's their

their experience with Santa at the mall, I don't think it's that big a deal. But if you're like, you know what, though, but if you're like 12, you really shouldn't be sitting on the wall. it's two old. It's two old. You're two old. Yeah, I was in Manhattan yesterday. And wow, they have testing sites, not on every street corner, but on enough that you're like, it might be every other street corner.

They have these little tent sets up and there that you're like, it might be every other street corner, they have these little tent sets up. And there were lines of like, every line had no less than 20 people. Some had, some had 50. I heard on the news. It was up to three hours long. It was just I could not believe what I was seeing. I was like, holy shit. This looks like I was definitely seeing something that's like going to be in the history books one day. It was just lines of people standing, getting tested in these tents and I was like, ah, it was one of those rare moments where I was like, I'm looking at a notable piece of history right now. It was pretty crazy, man. It's nuts. It's nuts in the city. And, no, I was just saying something I know is about New Yorkers is like,

those motherfuckers, and I count myself amongst them because I was doing I was gonna say and something I know about New Yorkers is like Those motherfuckers like and I count and I count myself amongst them because I was doing it too But like everybody was wearing their masks just walking down The sidewalk and like I would say the vast majority of people were masked up just walking down the street and stuff like that It was pretty it was like something man. Well there, you know, they from the news reports. It's I'm the crown. Is that how you pronounce reports uh... the crown is a happy prance it yeah i'm a cron it's exploding i would make me wonder if i had the uh... version of omnicrom well there's no way you can tell huh

well they don't test everybody gets a test they only test a certain amount of swabs for omnicrom like they're not testing everybody who gets swabbed in the country for the Omni-Krom. I'm not sure why. Like I would think that would be something they'd want to know. And so then they kind of build the statistics around only doing a certain amount of testing for Omni-Krom. But Gidham sent me a text going like I think we had the Omni-Krom version.

Why? They had nothing to do with that. like I think we had the Omni-Krom version. Why? Yeah, nothing about that. Yeah, nothing about that. Well, I think this is exploding right now. Oh, right. Like, it seems like, since we, me and Gidem had it, it seems like it is the numbers of skyrocketed from Omni-Krom. So of course, if you're going to have to get it, I would want to be like, hey, man, I

had the Omni-Krom version rather than the standard version. It's like the deluxe version of something. It's like a foil wrapped cover. Exactly. You don't want the standard. You want to be able to be like, yeah, I beat on the Chrome. Well, I would get rid of that. Do you feel impervious now that you've had it like you go out with no mask and like, hi

guys. No, no, no. I don't feel impervious. That tends to make you not feel as bulletproof as you once were. You like the living hell. Yeah. No, you know, and I don't want to paint a picture of living hell.

It was a very uncomfortable, but yeah, I only at one point in that whole two week experience did I ever like start to get a little teeny worried is when I had a super high fever in the middle of the night and I was like this ain't normal. This is not normal but I never once was like I don't know if I'm not going to make this. I always was like you know I would never like never think that I was like not going to pull through and I'm not going to be one of these people out of control. Yeah, in no way.

It's fucked up though. My will is too fucking strong if I have a little fucking teeny germ beat me. So we constitution is what you're saying is getting the other people to do? No, no, no, no, no, not at all, no. But that's just my mindset. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Of course a fucking tiny germ can, but I think you have to have that more. You gotta think that way. Yeah, you can't be like, I'm a fucking tiny germkin, but like it, but like, you know, I think you have to have that. You gotta think that way. Yeah, you can't be like, I'm gonna die. It's over for me. You gotta like think you're gonna pull through. Yeah, there's no way.

Yeah. It's, yeah, it's all people are talking about now with the Christmas coming up. Yeah, it's Christmas coming up. Yeah, I'm bad news. Are you gonna do anything different because of Omni-Kromp or Christmas Q? No, not really. I mean, I don't to do anything different because of on the cron for christmas q uh... now not really i mean i don't really do anything anyway go to my parents for dinner for christmas even and then i as you know i've reported on this podcast for ten years now i i spend christmas alone over here right i do yeah

do you still reach for the at the japan as quickly as you used to that's that's thanks giving but yeah yeah i do still. Yeah, you still, you're not, you know, not worried about like, well, is Ernie, um, the crumb and that chapel? Uh, you know, it's my family. Everybody's been touching it, you know, well, not really. Oh, no, I'll say to Turkey and then I take it out of the turkey. So, uh, yeah, I don't, I don't, you know, what am I gonna do? It's my family. You know, we're careful. You know, my parents, my dad's in his mid-7. These none of us wants to get him sick.

Oh yeah. That's the thing, right? Isn't that the lingering worst part of living in the middle of a pandemic is, you don't wanna to be the person that has that kind of fucking guilt trip is if you get a loved one sick and they don't make it. Speak for yourself.

Yeah. I mean, every single person that's listening right now has had that thought in their head, like that fear, that anxiety. And that's terrible. You know, especially when the holidays, it's almost like it's not worth getting together at times, you know, because it's like,

it's a possibility it always is. So today is Edgar's 75th birthday. I'm supposed to go over and see him. Yes. Is that a good enough reason to be like? I don't wanna get you sick, daddy. Well, if you say like, if you have to come up a little bit more like, hey, I came in a contact with somebody who had COVID, if you're going to like, you got to give,

you got to give it, spice it up a little bit. You just can't be like COVID's out there. Sorry. Yeah. You got to have a little part. I mean, you know, helping you on your side is, you know, Edgar probably doesn't care. Oh, he probably doesn't. He's, he's definitely the kind of guy

He's like I'm not wearing a mask. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, I mean he probably he probably doesn't care if you come see him Oh, that's true Masking I don't give a fuck if he comes I don't think my dad would care if I skip this birthday at all Yeah, so yeah, skip it. I think this is going to be even a weirder Christmas than last year because it's like the like the numbers are climbing so high now so close to Christmas. It's definitely in the back of everybody's head. I don't think it was in the back of everybody's head as much as this year.

Like last year. Well, I don't remember last year how everybody, I don't know, I mean, it just seems like everybody's just, is it ever going to fucking end? I mean, do you think that like every, I don't know. I don't know. No, I don't think so either. I think it's going to be like the flu from now on. It will see weaker and weaker strains, but it'll always be there, right?

I think, I mean, I'm the, who am I? I'm unemployed, am I unemployed fucking former self-employed amateur virologist But if I had to like gun them I had in there and somebody's like you got to go all in on whether you know we eradicate that COVID or it's something that you know is going to be here forever The signs really say that it's gonna be. Cut of points too. Yeah, but I'm just a fuck like I said,

a former comic book store employee. But what the fuck, what does anybody else know? Because every time they tell you something, they're fucking wrong. Or they overstayed it or they understayed it. So it's like, I don't know, I had listened to your opinion just as much. Anybody else should.

You shouldn't. You're on the front lines. You should not feel like I've yet to get it, man. Well, you're lucky then. You don't, yeah, nobody wants it. But a lot of people get it though and they don't even know they had it, which is the best way to fucking experience it. I have to think.

Yeah. If you're going to have it and they only have it and not even realize you have it, shit, man. That's the way to get a disease. Yeah Yeah, not stopping Ming Chen from anything. Have you noticed? Oh my god, he's out there. Where I can not I can't even keep up with his Instagram because like I I saw him Like whatever day we recorded the thing and then Then he was like down south and then he was in the Midwest and then he was in California.

And I'm like, how the fuck is he? How's he pull this off? He's incredible. I don't know. I mean, the amount of miles he must have. Yeah. His credit cards and shit. So I'm recently, he was on the the Tellum Steve Dave 2021

overkill Christmas special a One of the all-time great great traditions in podcasting history and Ming Chen keeping a streak alive. He has a missed one and he was able to find time in that busy schedule to Pop his head. Yeah, it was good to see Ming. I miss him. I don't I don't realize how much I miss him. Yeah, I feel like a long time. Yeah, he was, you know, a lot of, you know, and everybody who like, you know, he was one of those guys that was sending me daily, like text, like, keeping up on how I was doing, you know, and he's a good dude, you know, sometimes I'm hard on him as being robotic, but well, I don't know if you're being hard, I'm just observing. Yeah, speaking of heart ons. Well, I want to go back to that for one second because my thought while you were sick was like, don't bother Walt every day because I remember when I was sick and I would get daily texts, I'd be like, I don't want to answer these.

Oh, okay. Now I know though, okay. Yeah, I enjoyed hearing from you and Brian, you know that you know it was it make it does for me personally you know I'm sure it does nothing for my for you know for for my state of mind for my state of mind definitely But for like you know like people will say like you know the the the well wishes, it definitely, you gotta have, being a good frame of mind for everything. And I like the well wishes every day.

I mean, I don't have to answer them immediately. I don't feel obligated to be like, but by the end of the day though, I'll hit all everybody up who sent me something. Yeah, that's what I've been text you every day too, because I'm like, this guy is really sick. And I know if I was that sick, it would be, I get it.

Like, maybe nice to see, but it's just like, I don't wanna answer all these different texts. Definitely, I can see that POV. Well, and then, I mean, I was like, you know, I think it was like every other day, every third day. You guys did a lot, yeah.

Yeah, but I actively did that, because I was like, this motherfucker does not want to be hearing from us Yeah, let me tell you me this what's it called? What's the word that me discit parage you the spirit disparage you from that thought yeah, I would Welcome hearing from you guys every day. No, I don't have to be sick Again be like you know, all right. Hope you had a good day Yeah Yeah, you know, even check in be like, you know, all right. Hope you had a good day. Yeah.

Do you mind if like I have Helen text you in check? I think we'll lay back to me. How you feeling? Is that okay? And if I can I try to figure out if it's if it's her or you I think that would be an interesting little game a little cut from her phone Okay, I thought you just she had that one of those apps that like can make it feel like it look like you Sending the text I thought you had that technology at Can't no On her list of things to do every now just be like you you have the text Walt every night and just be like hey, but how's your day? I'll relate to Brian when I get your answer and then she texts me your answer. I gotta be honest. I won't be as meaningful You know what but on the flip side it's like wow, he's actually paying her to do this, you know, it's he's out of pocket on this

Maybe I'll have get him text you back for me Text the hell in back that you About hard on's man, oh you want to hear about hard on's? Oh, please. Dude, I tell you what was working while I had COVID. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I would wake up with some more morning food

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Really what where that where my where my fan is friendship came in was like when we were in London I'm, I really moved schedule around to like meet them and and see them, you know what I mean? Like where's most of people I'm just like, ah, I'm only into like, I'm on a town for three days, I don't really have any time, where's like, what do you mean I'm like, all right, if I cancel this and move this, I can hang out with you and that's how it goes. But I'm not, I'm not texting's not really. Okay, what about you, Brian? When you got like you got like um who's that who's that guitarist that you hang out from Ram zombie five five oh Piggy D. Oh piggy D. Why did you do?

Five because John five is a guitar. He's a bassist. Are you friends with John five? No, my friends with John five wish I was Piggy D likes to hear that Somewhere piggy D's just like Piggie D likes to hear that. Somewhere Piggie D's just like, cool, look at all your friends here. Piggie D, you got, I'm sure you have his text, right? Yeah. You could text him.

Did you overly text him? No, I don't think so. I don't do stuff like that because I'm more like, I don't know if this guy wants to hear from me. This frequently, why did you get somebody's number? I got somebody's number and I fell in, I thought I would be like you play cool like you but I fucking immediately run into that. I do I said to any text.

Alright. Yeah. Coming off episode 500, first time ever I got Dave Wendorf's phone number. And it's not a landline. That's shocking. And so I had it to like coordinate to like for him to come for episode 500. And so then like the realization like I still got his number. So I started texting him like and and and talk to him about hey, do you ever see this fucking video from this obscure band from the 70s? But he's the guy to test that. Yeah, but like my wife told me, she's like, she's like, stop texting him.

You're actually, it's really weird. It's getting so strange, she's going now that, like, she's like, I just was like, yeah, I was smitten and I found myself like acting like as I've never had before, like, and he would be kind enough to like answer me, but with like, yeah, I heard of them, but that would be kind enough to like answer me, but with like, yeah, I heard of them, but that's it.

Oh, really? He wasn't really like, you know, engaging me on a level where I was like, you know, like, he's gonna love this. So you blew him up? We're gonna become best friends. You blew him. Yeah, blew him up. Yeah.

I don't know if that's just his personality, or he was just like, I got to get a new phone now. It seems to me, I mean, look, I don't know the guy from just his personality or he was just like I got a new phone now. It seems to me, I mean look, I don't know the guy from Adam, but the interactions I've had with him, I would say more that like he's not an electronic type guy. Like I would not be surprised if like did he answer you right away? No, no, it did, you know, and then when I got, you know, and then that like, did you get that rush of like, when he got the know, and then that like did you get that rush of like on the hand when you got the Ant that very first answer for me, okay?

It's almost like a little like a Dopamine Yeah, I can't believe this is happening Oh you guys didn't get that Okay, me neither I will say though that are like regardless of its's Dave or you know, Biggie or any number of people, it's like if you admire somebody and you get their phone number and you're like, oh wow, like I'm kind of buddies with this person now.

I think when you get that text, it is kind of cool. Yeah. You know, it is like, wow, like no, like I never thought I'd be talking to this person. Well, he's like, oh yeah, I do respect his music and everything. I love his music. So it always did say like, man, be awesome to be fucking hang with Dave. Mm-hmm.

Do you think that's true? We'll be fucking it up though. No, just ease off a bit. That's all. Just ease off a bit. Yeah, yeah, okay. I got to find that perfect. Because if I don't send a text out,

then he's gonna send another text to me. So what's the perfect, well, how long do I wait before I send the next one after sending like 30 in a day? You like once in a, how many did you send really? I don't know, better than 20s. That can't be. Good one, good one. No, no one.

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the, what it's like to tour with like a zombie or like we get like, like, like something that maybe he wouldn't say on an interview or like inside him for that kind of inside him for that makes you go like, again, the dopamine starts to fucking flow. Yeah, we traded some inside stories. You have inside stories? I was, I was, I was, I was, I was. Oh, I know you guys.

Oh, you're letting companies get through. So you have to trade though, if you feel like you got to come with something you just can't take his- I got to come armed with something juicy. His dirt, yeah. You got to throw some dirt back, huh? You have to earn the respect of a man named Piggy. I was spoken to him in some time, he had a kid not too long ago.

Yeah. I didn't even know him, and then I saw an Instagram, I was like, holy shit. Have you fallen into that trap, Q? When you've got your celebrity your new friend your new celebrity friend Do you feel like you got a dish some dirt on the in on the inside workings of IJ or anything? No, what I what I do is Yeah, just make something up No, I try and keep everything I think it's best because ultimately if somebody's communicating with you, like, they're fans of IJ or else, why the fuck would they, you know what I mean? Like, why would they talk to me? But a celebrity though knows that it can't

all be sunshine and lollipops and no, I know, but I try and save that sort of stuff for like, maybe tough dealings with the networks we've had in the past. But overall, I find like, and lollipops and no I know but but I try and save that sort of stuff for like maybe tough dealings with the networks we've had in the past but overall I find like I don't want I just want to keep it positive but didn't you tell me though that you got Paul McCartney's number and he texted you that he liked I.J. we no no we were his bodyguard on his tour was worked on I.J. when we shot an episode in California and he texted him while we were in the car Okay, so let's say I don't have all my carton his number

Let's say for some reason the bodyguard gate you gave the bodyguard his number in Paul sent you a text saying like he He loved the show yadayadayada Yeah, and then you said something and then he goes yeah remind me that of that time with the Beatles with John Ringo and he gives you some dirt that nobody has ever heard before and it's kind of disparaging to somebody other Beatles. You don't feel like you got to like yeah I have an instance like that too Paul. I mean if Paul McCartney, you know like who's the Yoko, a practical Joker, so she can throw it under the bus. He's opening up about like problems within a for some like the Beatles. I might be like, wow, Paul, I might try and be like, how could I apply that lesson to what I'm

going to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I will say this, like, we've outlasted the Beatles, we're only seven years, we've outlasted the Beatles. So maybe I should be giving fucking Paul some advice. That you guys are a fucking cyclone. I don't think that he would be like, I don't think that would be like, well, you guys are a fucking cyclone. I don't think that he would be like, I don't think that would be like, well, if you got to hear about this fucking girl, somebody brought backstage, I just don't think.

I would feel I had to, right? Oh yeah, that, you gotta come with something. I know. He's fucking like opening up, opening up to you, man, that's how you connect with some people though. You know, by bitching. That's how 99% of the world communicates. Like, I go into the postal office.

I know what I've connected with the guy behind the counter because I've tried so hard. When he starts bitching about the other people at the postal installation that we go to. Like, this one says useless, this sits on a cow, he tells me. I know that like, he's like, that's how he's like telling me like

Hey, I kind of like you right. That's good enough for you. That's good enough for me. Yeah, that's how I think that's how human kind We like to bitch And if a fucking you got a fucking guy of that status bitching to you about yeah other guys like yeah You got to come with something even if it's a fucking total snow job Yeah, but what if it starts going to like really weird weird places? What if full McCartney's like texting me some really distasteful shit about the bills. Yeah, I'm just a child soldiers Yeah, like you count your blessings and you're like holy shit Really? Yeah

Every text is gold. Yeah, man. I don't know. This. If he just starts talking about how I think he used to bet on child fights while they were on tour and stuff like that, he's like, yeah, we used to get the roadies kids together

and have them fight for the fuck all of each other. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that I would be able to come back at that with a pro-wrestling. No, you can't come back with that, but yeah, you count yourself with like, man, probably only like 100 people on the planet know this and like 50 of them are dead.

Yeah, but according to modern society, don't I have an obligation to like... To out him? Yeah, isn't that what everybody's doing today? Oh, you can just shame him, just for some child fight. I mean, that's not BQ No, that is not BQ I'm not doing that I don't care. You're just like Paul. Let's go fucking I'll ring it. I'll get some fucking Kid fights together this weekend if you're in town

Wouldn't it be weird if like say you did get his number and he's like hey, let's have dinner Like on one hand it's like well. I'm having dinner with Paul McCartney on the other hand It's like what am I gonna fucking talk about to this guy? I think we talk about anything but the Beatles, right? Yeah I don't know. Yeah, do you know a lot about the Beatles? I probably know a little bit more than the average person because I'm at a book at one point, but not much more. You know what I mean?

Like maybe one's book's worth more than the average person. I haven't watched that documentary on him yet. So probably not, I don't know. But. I asked, I texted Dave about the documentary if he watched it. And he said he was gonna get to watch it, but he talks about it because he was alive like all three of us

You know our existence Begins as they're they're over already, you know, we're I'm three years old when they end so I don't even have a I don't have a Any kind of memories of the Beatles other than like as I get a bit older, and you hear about a band that doesn't exist anymore. But he says, you know, since he was there, he saw it happening and everything that there'll be artists who came after them, who sold more records, he said, but you know, there'll be never be another celebrity that has the cultural impact that they had. never be another celebrity that has the cultural impact that they had. It's not possible in the world we live in today where things happen and they're gone in an instant. And there's just a world that exists in fact and doesn't exist now. So there's just no way there can be another Beatles.

Yeah, like with the Beatles, that's what there was. And then there was a bunch of smaller people that the really paid much attention to like not there be like you know like there be a band like the bg's would sell one album that sold more than a than a Beatles album ever did but they did not have the same kind of cultural impact though just because they sold those no okay i see what you say like he's saying that yeah there'll be a bands and artists that may sell more units

but they won't have the The gravitas, you know, this is not possible He's like, you know, like when he said they're bigger than Jesus and angered everybody Angered them because it was true. Yeah, it was right And that's a fucked up when you think about it. You know that you could be say that and you're not really wrong That's what we got it what we got to grow this podcast. I got to start last month, the listenership is up 11%. We might be bigger than Jesus. So we're getting there.

We're bigger than some of the disciples for sure. 11%. How do we get it to 20%? That's big. What do we got to do? I've always pondered this question. How do you grow that audience? What do do we gonna do? I've always pondered this question. I just don't know what to do What do you do at this point this many years in?

Well, I think it comes down to like we have to I think if we got with the times a little bit I mean, I don't want to tie my hair look look at his weight when you said that That white ass beard Look at like what even even if you look at like what Sal's doing with his podcast Even if you look at what Chuck's Chuck's doing with his podcast Which is what they put up these little clips these little video clips on YouTube and about and and people Start going crazy watching that and they send these clips all over the place and it helps build an audience. I kind of always like that we never really did that, but if it's a concern that you guys

want to... No, I'm just wondering, especially when it was like three guys on TV, one guy, one guy super huge, two guys on a cult TV show that nobody you know who was who was an up after 1 a.m. saw like why it wasn't like the numbers didn't grow like spiked dramatically but i i don't know man i think you're discounting how successful and popular for podcasts we are oh no yeah yeah i know i don't want to do that because i can't. You know what? If we just kept the same number, I would be totally happy with that. Absolutely, I would be, yeah, but I wonder why, especially when we were all on TV,

why it didn't get a little bit more buzz. I wasn't upset by it. Yeah. But I think, like you say, it's like even though we would talk about tell them Steve David, I'd wear the shirts and stuff. It takes a certain type of person to be like, hey, I wonder what that is. And then look it up and then do the leg work to.

There's a lot of leg work to to like to catch up. Oh, yeah. 500 episodes. Yeah. That, that I think is a barrier. Don't tell. Yeah, I think it's daunting. But I think if we hired like a hip, young, social media,

a fucking expert who went in there and worked the game for us and opened the YouTube channel and put on weekly clips and we, I think that you would see a spike in that audience but you just wanna hear it. That's what I hear at home. What? You guys should do video. You guys should do this. All this should be saying right now.

But the video is so hard though, because it takes time to edit it. And we're recording this and then, what is it basically fucking going up two seconds later? Yeah, it's gonna go up in moments later. Yeah. But should we look into a booking agent? But to book who?

To book names for once in a while to come in or zoom in and be able to be like, hey, we've got such and such on the podcast this week. I question if that, you know, wouldn't be a good investment though from time to time, not every week, but, you know, maybe once a month we get somebody of stature. Because that could zoom in Yeah, I don't like nobody has to be around you anymore. I guess, but who do you guys want? I mean it's how you want this show to turn into like Just what we're talking a guest once a month that that you don't like it. I could tell I don't love it because

I like what tell him Steve David is but I I it would be a philosophy change for us to be like, I think we gotta grow this as big as we can. And I don't think it's as easy as just getting a guest on once a month. I think you do have to get the social media person to make the clips. I think we do have to pay attention to YouTube. I think we do have to do a lot more outreach

if we're gonna to do it. It's just not celebrities aren't the key to... I mean, there's celebrities on podcasts everywhere, man. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. I think they're everywhere. I don't know how...

That's it. You know what? That also makes me feel good that you're just like let's keep it as is Yeah, because that's you know, that's that's a lot less work. That's absolutely no work You guys want this to turn into a fucking like a burden a stone around there in that where we're like Oh, we got a fucking make sure we show up on time for the fucking Even on musk interview Whoa, that would be good. That would be amazing. No I don't know you want to talk to that? I don't have anything against it

I'm not one of these people that's like fuck fuck you on musk like I I But I just wonder what we would talk about. Like, what would I, what would any of us have to say to, to Musk? I think that we would bring absolutely some, not common questions that he gets. Yeah, it doesn't have to be about space and shit. Yeah.

How is, you can talk about his childhood? Yeah. Sure. Kind of humanized of humanized favorite serial killer is, but I guess do you guys want to talk about Elon Musk childhood? I guess the question really What's still like I still would love to get Scott Gomez though. I don't know if you still talk to him. Yeah, I can I can get I would love to get Scott Gomez on the podcast Back to the fucking you spent so much time Talking down the devils two weeks ago. Not that narrow of the devils. Oh, that is true. Not that narrow of the devils.

You're absolutely right. I could slumber. Uh oh. And you know, remember I said I don't like the swallow. Well, Scott Gomez is here. I do I'd be happy to have him on that up. Yeah, I would be so fucking jacked Yeah, I'm a machine gun that motherfucker with questions. Yeah, wow, all right

So that's the first guest we're going after All right, no cool cool I'll talk to him you still talk to him Couple of months we probably couple months ago would you will you hit him up for the holidays? I ago. Would you will you hit him up for the holidays? I maybe wouldn't have before this conversation because I was assumed who the fuck cares about. I will hit him up for this. I'll start buttering up Scotty Gomez. Okay, I gotta start stuff up and I'm now. Yeah, I'm in 2020 coming in 2022. Scott Gomez. But that's the other thing too. It's like, do we really, not that's got by the way I think Scott would fit in perfectly with this crew, but like a like another person that he's actually

Perfect for the show, but somebody else. It's like do we want to do the fucking is anytime like we you know We had guests on top on on practical jokers or anything. It's like you have to slip into this mode of like you know on practical jokers or anything, it's like you have to slip into this mode of like, you know, serving okay. Yeah, like how can we make this easy as possible? And it falls on us, we don't have a staff, you know what I mean? And we're not gonna put fucking get them.

We're not gonna put get them on the phone with Elon Musk to set up something. So it falls on us. So it's like, I don't know, do we? I'll give you the really fucking fun things we could do with Elon Musk to set up something. So it falls on us. So it's like, I don't know, do I? I'll give you that only fucking fun. Things we could do with Elon Musk. We'll put him up against Kiddum in terms of like, who's smarter.

Yeah. You know, creation. You know, Kiddum thinks he's just on, he doesn't think he's smarter, but you know he thinks he's on an even keel with Elon Musk. Yeah. It's just a matter of like, you know, breaks that Elon got that, you know, that kingdom is not Elon Musk, you know.

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afternoon. Yes. No, I'm going tomorrow. Okay. Yeah, I don't want to. I have to use our raving. Oh, I'm going tomorrow. Okay. Yeah, I don't want to, I have to use our raving. Oh, I have heard all about it. I know everything that happens in the movie. I got it spoiled for me. I don't know anything. I'm very excited. Oh, I know everything.

Oh, okay. Wow. Is that a bad thing or a good thing? Oh, for you. I think it's, I never mind, like the only time I don't like, I don't like spoilers on television shows. If that makes a weird thing, like because you're spending so much time in something as episodes away, and I don't know, there's something about that journey I like.

But a movie, I'm just like, fucking spoiler for me, because then I get it twice. I get the, I get the spoils, which I love, and then I, then I create it in my head, and then I get to see what the movie did different which I kind of like Yeah, but everything I've heard about the movie sounds like shit. I want to be watching I told Walter cleaned up man. It's estimated to make 220 million Weekend one weekend domestically I Mean the last two Marvel movies have fucking weased over 100 million, and this is making it in the first weekend.

Wow. Go to the show, you know, about the recognizable characters, maybe? Oh, you don't think Shang-Chi was going to do as fucking Spider-Man does. Just throwing it out there, cube. It that uh... it could be a did to the recognition factor and having fucking doctors having them like a listers yeah and having doctor strange be a big part of the movie and having multiple spider-man is it's just like maybe that's the better formula then having a

you know, have any journals and not having anybody know who the fuck they are or carry at the end of the movie. I don't know. I guess. I mean, the thing that I did like about a journals was that it felt comic bookie at times in a way. And despite a man movie looks fucking comic bookie as fuck,

which I love, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I think it's the more you lean into that sort of thing I don't know but I we did like it's one that we did yeah, I liked it more than I thought I would especially considering the Coming off some of the reviews I saw were I Finally watch brutal Shang Chi. I finally watch. Oh, yeah, what'd you think? Well look the dragon at the end I fucking loved I't know why, but something about that dragon I loved flying around. But not, but, but not related to the movie, if that makes sense. It's like, I just thought the dragon looked cool, and I like seeing it fly around. So I could have just watched footage of a dragon flying around. And it would have been

fine. But yeah, it wasn't real. Like, there were points where I was like, is Shang-Chi in this movie? Oh, yeah. Did you bring that up? Or did I come to that conclusion on myself? Because I was like, that motherfucker, big disappear.

Like at one point, I'm just like, I don't know who's movie this is, because Shang-Chi is barely in this movie at points. Yeah. I guess weird too that Disney has a habit of um and I don't think it's gonna happen in Spider-Man but of their villains like kind of be like walking that line of like well I don't know if I really if they're not really all bad and you want to have sympathy for them oh, oh buckle up for that in Spider-Man.

Don't think that that's not coming in. Oh, really? It's still coming in too. Yeah, I'm not sure why Disney has gone that route where they're like, they don't want a true, like a thing, I guess, would be, but they want a nuanced villain where you can kind of feel for them too,

which is a strange direction that they've gone. I also have a great villain is you want to hate the villain. You want to Darth Vader was tragic. Not at first. Those first three movies, at the end, yeah, but those first two movies, I'm not feeling any sympathy for Darth Vader. He's the ultimate fucking

sinister evil villain. I think the Joker. I've never felt any sympathy for the Joker. No, you don't feel a lot of sympathy for the Joker. As you should not, even in that movie, that the people loved that movie where no Batman was in it, but it was just called the Joker. No Joker, right, yeah. I mean, I guess they tried to paint him as, like, you know, you should feel sorry for them

because he had a real tough life. There's mentally a lot of them. Yeah, yeah. There's just a move towards that though, where you want to paint the bad guys in a sympathetic light for some reason. Oh, that sounds like a comment on society today, my friend. At least a comment on Disney, you know.

Yeah, but yeah. I'm aiming for a spider-me-no, yeah. Like I'm Gaga for Spider-me-no. Even Rocky went back and made Drego a good guy. Many years later, and Creed II is like Drego's fucking kind of redemption a little bit. Oh, I didn't know that. So Dolph Longram was in it.

Oh, he was in it his day ago, yeah. And you find out what happened to him after he lost that match to Rocky. And it is not fun. It's fun. Ooh. Like, think about an entire country turning their back on you,

and then imagine that country's Russia. I think about how you're gonna get treated. Yeah. Like, he really went through the fucking ringer man and like you felt, but I, wow that's interesting because like I would think that that's an inch, maybe Disney's not doing it well because I think it is more interesting

when the bad guy is kind of like a little bit like, I don't know, I kind of stand what he's saying a little bit. But this is a Chi-Bair guy, like how many times that they do the Kung Fu fighting with the Husp, the Sheng Chi's father and his mother recording her. He was courting her through fighting her and then he would look at her like seductively walk while performing Kung Fu on her. It was just bizarre.

It just did not connect with me. And all kofina's character learning to shoot an arrow. Like, can nobody just be a comedic fucking sidekick? Does everybody need to be a fucking superhero in their own right? I could not fucking believe how much time they spent on her shooting arrows. Well, the thing is like, this is nuts. I was like, this is crazy. I would have had a different way for her to save the day. If you're gonna, okay, if you are so hell bent on having the star of the movie's sidekick save the day, and literally the most important shot in Marvel Cinematic Universe history is taken not by Hawkeye with a fucking bow and arrow. That's fucked up.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the star of the movie's sidekick save the day. And literally the most important shot in Marvel Cinematic Universe history is taken not by Hawkeye with a fucking bow and arrow. That's fucked up. If you're gonna have the most important shot ever taken in Marvel Cinematic Universe history with a bow and arrow not taken by Hawkeye. Who took it? Yeah. A shank cheese girlfriend. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, they're not girls are not sure about an arrow two days prior i mean two days is is generous she hits a moving creature like five hundred feet in the sky

a mile away with an arrow and this is not the human or woman haters club this is not that sure this and the movie and I'm in. I am, like that is not coming from a place where, you know, I just feel like if you've got the greatest archer, he should take that shot, you know, or give her just a, make her throw an axe at it then or something.

I don't know, but don't make it bow and arrow. Yeah. Like, let me just shot a compound bow. I't make it bow and arrow. Yeah. Wait, let me wear a shot of Compom, though. I've shot a bow and arrow. It's so fucking hard. It's so difficult. Forget it.

I'm hitting a moving target. I couldn't even hit the regular target. It like goes... Yeah, but you weren't... But you weren't trained by a group of... a group of hidden warriors, though. That are thousands of years old. That's true. You know, that makes a difference, I think. of hidden warriors though. That are thousands of years old.

It's true. You know, that makes a difference. I've heard day and a half with a lunch break. Yeah. She fucking nailed it. Yeah, it was, it was, I, you know. Where do you predict Shang-Chi's placement going forward now? Where does, where does ZB come?

A big player? Is there a number two for him in terms of a second movie? Look, man, I don't know. Is he joined the Avengers, the new Avengers? I think he has to, right? They can't. They have a plan. They can't pull him out. It's kind of like, I guess he's got the rings now, right? Spoiler. He's got his father's rings. Yeah. And, and, and, and he's got his best friend. So, you know, does she become a full fledged Avenger? I mean, at the end, it seemed like she got recruited, didn't it? Sure that. A parking attendant is now an Avenger. It's just phenomenal.

It's like, all right, okay, all right, here we go, Avengers. What's your story? Well, I'm a brilliant scientist and I set off this gamma bomb that unleashes creature in me and I'm some controllable and I have a hard time. Okay, cool. What's your thing? I was given a super serum. I was locked in the ice for 50 years. I, whatcha think? I'm a billionaire genius. I built this suit. Uh-uh, whatcha think? Well, I parked cars with Chang-Chi. And I got a, and I got like a fucking quick lesson

on bow and arrow shooting. So, it's a bit tough to squad. It's a bit tough to squad. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. I'm going to waste. I just spend belief a little bit more than in that movie than in some of the other ones.

Yeah. But I'm only, they give you a bullshit reason, at least give me a bullshit reason to like put it aside and forget about it, you know what I mean? Like the new Hawkeye on the series is like, she's a black belt, she's a fucking, she trained with both in arrows and her entire life.

You're like, well, that makes it like that's all you got to give me That's all I need she was a little overwhelmed at for you know from what I've seen I haven't seen the whole series yet, but she's a little overwhelmed by the circumstances that she's coming into and that wasn't the Case for the park in attendance. She's just kind of like Rolling immediately with like hidden Civilizations and shooting dragons that are flying at rolling immediately with hidden civilizations and shooting dragons that are flying at speeds that, no, there's not a chance on a planet

you should be hit that shot. No, also the first time I lay eyes on a dragon, I don't know that I'm gonna be like, so I'm like, I'm gonna kill that thing. Like I just wouldn't, I don't know. But whatever, I mean, even in the realm of silly comic book shit, it was just too much. It was just too much.

I was like, this is too much. For all the talk too about, we're not going to, it's not going to be the stereotypical Asian character. That fucking whole movie looked like you went to East meets West and just like fuck a boarded out and it fucking made that was the That was the back dressing to that movie, you know dragons and it's like that was every stereotype I thought Asian stereotype, you know, I'd heard that too like there's a bunch of little shank cheese running around and shit Little shank cheese. Yeah, like they're little where they're little shank cheese. No, I want your little Asian kids. No, no

I'd read that somewhere. No. I mean, in the village, I guess, but I didn't see kids in the village. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember any of them, but, but who knows? I only watched it once, but, uh, yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't hate it. I wasn't sitting there like, yeah, this is unbearable to watch or anything like that. But you know what this appointed me a bit. I don't know. I don't want to be negative about it. But I'm just like, everybody told me the fights, the fights were so good, but I didn't really see anything. I haven't seen in a billion other movies. Yeah, the choreography. Well, on the bus, I thought the choreography was really great. The bus fight.

Yeah, that was cool when he was going outside. I mean, that's where you paid whoever choreographed that fight, you know, they earned their money on that scene Yeah, after that though. There was this the scene on the scaffolding Decent Looks like a video game. Yeah, it looked yeah, I was just like it's a video game But after that then there's no more there's no more scenes of like that wowed you in terms of like choreograph Kung Fu of like choreographed Kung Fu. Well, what are you going to do? But I had that cute little thing with no head, you know, in the wings, so flying around,

so that's good. You're into the capitated stuff recently, man. Dude, I don't know, man. This is a fucking, this is a rough morning. I don't know, man, I guess. But you know what, the world works that way, doesn't it? There's decapitated heads right now, and only because I grew up in the United States,

am I, do I think that that shit is crazy, privileged. Oh yeah, yeah. It's a little bit of the privilege coming out. A little way put, which, is it, well, I mean, everybody in the United States, pretty much doesn't, I don't think I'm necessarily. I'm trying to make it so much. Oh yeah, I mean everybody in the United States. Pretty much doesn't I don't think I'm necessarily. Oh, yeah, I think everybody in the United States is like,

you know, fucking not dealing with, although there are people that are dealing with the capitated heads, but Jesus Christ, man. Like, I don't know, it was just shit really threw my day off. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go.

I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. if you're decopitating other kids, you're pretty much done as a person. As a person, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Here I am complaining about a fucking, I'm 40 something and I'm complaining about comic book movies

and this poor kid's like, lopping off another kid's attic at the point. That used to be my friend. Oh, I mean, it's like, how could the world work this way? How could it be this way? And knowing that this shit's in the world, I mean, this is where I've been all morning. Knowing this shit's in the world work this way? How could it be this way? And knowing that this shit's in the world I mean, this is where I've been all morning knowing this shit's in the world like how's there any hope for anything? How do you think you people? What do you guys think that the world's gonna be okay one day?

It's never gonna be okay. It's always gonna be this you're so insulated though You reach am I we all are not just Hopefully you scratch would like to power outages away from fucking this shit happening. Yeah, I do. I believe that. That's why you got all those fucking generators. I saw them. You showed them to me.

Oh, I got generators up the fucking. That only makes me a target. That only makes me a target. Now I got to get fucking guns to defend my generator. That's true. Like you hear those generators going. It's like, all right, he's got electricity, which means he has refrigeration,

which means he has food. Let's fucking get him. Let's get him. Yeah. Let's get him and his. But you got that mode. Why don't I have a mode? He does have a recently paved driveway.

It's very nice. I do have a nice driveway and I have a fence, but it's like, it's a new, it's not like an old school, raw, high fence. A tall, that fence. You can only legally go six feet, so around seven, but it's like, it's, you know, I just had to get it.

That's how I could without bringing on the heat. But it's aluminum. It's aluminum fence. Like one of us could pull my fence net. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's, it's not like a real security barrier. And then you're, it's not apocalypse proof. No, no.

Like maybe zombies wouldn't think to pull it down, but if like we're in a human society, got a muck, it's not stopping anybody. Wow, this is a, this is a bleak way to go, because we're gonna take a break before the holidays. Are we not gonna come back to 2022? 2022 will be back. It's tough.

You want to go out on a higher, more cheerful, no, I mean, Christmas is coming up and you're because, no, no, no, no, where can I find the special? Where are we gonna find? Oh, yeah, tell them see Dave Christmas special. It's gonna be on Patreon, video and audio, $55 level. It's also gonna be just the audio on the bandcamp and it's gonna drop December 21st later in the evening. Five bucks. I know how long it is. That's three hours. Three hours of video for five bucks a month. Three hours of Christmas cheer. There's no BQ is like the exact 180 degree

different than he is on this episode. Cheers. I was telling him I was like, I go, BQ is amazing in this episode. I think I would have thought he was fucking, like that he stopped off at fucking Linden or Elizabeth on the way down. I picked up some fucking, some good shit

because he is fucking, it's all good baby. The energy is off the charts. Like, I'm not talking coke, I'm not talking fucking... Oh, no joke. That was those weird cigarettes that he's... That's all good. I'm talking like the fucking powerful shit.

He is... The energy is unbelievable. Yeah. Thank you. I guess this is what happens when I don't start my day with dead children. I mean, the only thing that I had for Christmas to add was there's a peppermint shortage. So there's no candy canes around. No, really. That's funny too. Are you sure?

I just read it. Yeah, I can actually, I mean, I just like, like, see, like, the candy canes? Yeah, I just brought like five boxes. Really? They're saying that there's a 25% decrease in peppermint production. And if you'd asked me, what's peppermint and how do you make it, I'd have no fucking idea. You grow it.

You grow peppermint? Yeah, it's like a stalks, right? It's a spice, right? Like in the end of the day, a peppermint? Yeah, I just don't know, does it grow in the ground? Does it grow out of the ground? Well, you know what? Maybe I could change the tune right now and look up.

Go out of the high notes. Yeah, well, yeah, peppermint's made. Well, like you know, even if there's a shortage, let's just get together. Everybody, not just us, we're really listening and just really, you know, sit there and appreciate peppermint. Yeah, to table this year. Yeah, because there's a lack of it, some other might not have it. Yeah. It's just a plant. It's just like a leafy plant.

Oh, there you go. Yeah. Wow. All right. Can you live a little world? Geez. Wow. You want to have a world? I don't want to. I like your candy cane. All right. See you. He's back. He's back. Yeah, I love candy cane. Hey, I put up a Christmas tree yesterday Yeah, I did that am I place put up a Christmas tree small one only like like a fake one about you know four feet high Yeah, because of the cats and whatnot, but I put it up. I decorated it. I played some old-school Christmas music all day yesterday Yeah, yeah, what sounds like you're ready? I think so.

Yeah, I go. I am self in that big house. Please not all by yourself. He said the cats and airs. That's true. I'm sure they help. That's sure that helps my assistant dropped him for 10 minutes. Helen put I'd rather I'd like that ornament on the other side.

Yeah, and while you're at a text palm of cartony for me. Tell him, Steve Dave.