Tell Em Steve-Dave - #554: Joey da Rose

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

The first episode in the TESD guest series features long-time friend, Joe DeRosa…and Bry and Q making fun of Joe DeRosa. Joe plays dyslexia. https://ter.li/AmericanMusicalSupply-TESD

And then one day, Q was like, you know, Johnson like fucking loves you. And I was like, really? Say lateral thinking, say it. If you know what that is, good for you. You're a lateral part of your mind. With her grow dark light fuck you see this is why he's an asshole you see the face Tell him Steve Dave hello and welcome to this weeks edition of Tell him Steve Dave both audio and video Hmm, I got some cameras running and both audio and video. Mm-hmm. I got some cameras running. And, uh...

Seemed real happy about that. Yeah, I like it. Well, I'm excited. Yeah. I'm excited about today. Uh, Walt, how you doing? Good. How are you? Pretty good. We have the first.

It's face looks different, right? I think it's because he's smiling. Yeah. That's how it means he seems excited about this. I can't smile, I'm not so interested. I can't do it. It's so weird, he's smiling. I practiced at home.

Mary Beth would like you would like hold up pictures of Sage. I just wanted to smile. I wanted to smile. I wanted to look like Joe DeRosa came up. I was like, that's tomorrow, right? I'll try and be heading video. Yeah. That'll be your day here.

But yes, the first in our guest series, Joe DeRosa, prolific comedian, podcast, TV star. It's been in movies. He's done it all this guy. I've never been in a movie, I don't think. But that's been in a movie? I've been in, I thought you were in a movie. I was in, well I'm not a TV, thank you. All the things you're saying are nice.

You, come on man. You're one of my favorite shows on earth. I was in one, I would think I was in one ever movie. It was an indie flick. It was a gangster movie. I played an asshole, patron, big fucking stretch. In a pizza place or something.

I think it was called revolver or something. Okay. So a movie. You know who started it or one of the stars was Kathleen Najimmy of Hocus Pocus. Oh, I like her. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I didn't wasn't in the scene with her, but she was, that matter, she was nice. She's not, you know who she's married to. The Dan Fenderty of the Dan band. Wait, what? Yeah. She is. Is that a fun fact?

She is. She is? I didn't know that. Oh, that's wild. It's cool. I always get her mixed up with Nia, uh, Vartolis, my big fat, re-quetting. Okay. Who I worked with her husband. And how was, how was he? He was very nice. Oh, that was nice. That was nice. Now I got it anyway. Sorry. Thank you for the nice intro. Yes. I got to tell you,

you weren't a lock for this first guest. This is big, a lot of people, I went online, went on Reddit, go on Twitter, a lot of people are like, they don't need guests, we don't want guests, which on one hand is very sweet, and I appreciate it. These guys are enough for me. But at the same time, it's like if we never had guests, we wouldn't have Sunday Jeff, we wouldn't have,

Jimmy the Hare guy, we wouldn't have Sunday Jeff, we wouldn't have, sure, Jimmy the Hare guy, we wouldn't have this one, we wouldn't have that one. So it was between Joe DeRosa and a guy who writes a New Jersey devil's newsletter and passes it out to his friends. That's our guest book right there. He was going to try to get a fucking New Jersey devil's right. That's great. That sounds like a great guest style. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. So you gotta prove yourself like you have to you have to win people over so that we don't get shit on.

I'm not the first ever guest. No other people have been on but like this is like we haven't done it in quite some time and it's never been like oh, Sal's coming in or this one's coming in or you know, uh, Troy's coming in. I think this But we're using this as the birth of a new direction for TSD where we're going to bring in, you know. You're now part of the gang. Oh great, yeah. Okay, great. This is it, this is the birth of the new era.

So how it goes on this episode speaks for future guests. He's like, you guys have put a lot of pressure on this. I don't know, man. Well, people tend to really not like me for no apparent reason. I find that it is a real love hate with Joderoso. Like, what I read online is like people are like, I can't stand them or I love them.

There's really no middle ground with Joe. Yeah. And you guys share something unique. You both have a laugh that people recognize and remark upon. Oh, yeah. I was reading about Joe DeRos's laugh list. What kind of laugh do you have? Like a cackle, like a burnt rental D which cackle.

Oh, I mean, you guys don't know all those pop culture references. Like I'm kind of lost because I like for me pop culture ends in 1978. It's great. So, but around with that. I mean, yeah, that speaks to me. That's like for me pop culture ends in 1978. So. I don't know what to have. I mean, yeah, yeah, that's like it's like a symphony. Yeah. I agree. I fell in love with the.

I have a horse shack type of laugh. Oh, you sound a little bit like horse shack. Your voice like you've gotten that. I didn't try to cultivate that. It just happened. It's so natural. Did you ever watch the, I went down a welcome back, Carter rabbit hole on YouTube the other day.

And I don't know what started it. I just started watching it. But I started watching interviews with Ron, whatever's name. The guy played horseback. Yeah. And he's one of those guys who it's weird seeing him in interviews

because he doesn't sound like horseback. You know what I mean? And he's very like those guys where it's weird seeing him in interviews because he doesn't sound like Horser. You know what I mean? And he's very like, you know, I went in and you know, and you're like, it's like wow, this guy was a really good actor. I'm like, you know, you're expecting him just to be walking Horser. He's the, the, the, the, the, the way.

Right now. I don't think there's any sweat. Rod Toledo, that's his name. I think only Bob Marino's the last living sweat hog, right? Epstein. Epstein. Epstein and, Epstein. Ready Boom Boom Washington. Boom Boom still alive. Oh, he's, okay, I have to. That is just a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a well known for her big tits and her fucking shirt popping open during game shows. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's not sweat hog there. I mean the female hot sea. Totsie just never. Wait, but she's not hot. Your tour about his wife though, right? No, not her. I'm talking about hot sea. The student. Oh, hot sea is like a red wife died. Yeah. The wife died. Oh, if I'm arguing gave cappellans,

cauders screen. Yeah. Yeah. The where's the one of Peltro glasses? It always so live is the principle. No, what would I do? Oh, fuck it. Yeah. So under it, it's six years old. Yeah. But like it's wild.

Like, Polito didn't go to the, yeah, yeah, I hear the horse shak. Yeah, it's a good laugh dude. The, um, Polito didn't show up at the, I hate, I'm doing that thing, I hate when people do this. I went to a fucking, I hate when people do this. I went to a Jack Daniels event last night, and a guy was giving, like, all this history of Jack Daniels on stage,

and he was talking about how Sinatra was the one that made Jack Daniels famous, because it was an unknown brand before that, and Sinatra discovered Jack Daniels through Humphrey Bogart and the guys on stage going, that's the thing with Bogie. When Bogie was at, and it was like, I was crawling out of my fucking skin and I just did it. I go, Polito did show. And when they did the TV Land reunion, he didn't show up and I've got the feeling that he may be resented Being known as Horshack

I got type-kissed. Yeah, yeah, right? Oh, he was only I think you only like parlay dead into some loveboat appearances And maybe a fantasy island Same with this girl to release Kyle's like she was she was on game shows and she was on fantasy island and love And match game match you got a free a horse shack was probably one of the more popular of the sweat hogs, right? Like everybody loved him Yeah, lovable, but certainly you know know, everybody wanted to be a bobbler, you know. Yeah, sure, but in watching the show, people loved him. Like, he's this, I'd say he's second most popular. And he couldn't get a career going after one of the most popular sitcoms of all time.

He says in the interview, he's, it's he's, the interview that I watched was from, it was still on. It was like season two or three. And he said like, he's like, he's like, yeah, it's kind of weird. And this is where I was like, oh, he fucking hated this. Because he's like, you know, I was playing, you know, King Lear and he just kind of lived here.

Poor Shack, you know, like, oh, shit, he's one of these guys. Well, fucking King Lear don't pay the mortgage or shak so, but on this fucking oversized jacket get out there and laugh. Yeah. We've been watching Mary with children lately and seeing the same exact thing. With which character? Uh, Wendy, uh, wait, what did you say? I totally lost track.

You were just saying the same thing. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Yeah, jeez. All right. No, I was asking asking which person goes, I feel like they are like, I'm so much like, oh, I'm telling you, I woke up yesterday and I said,

I'm very Beth, I felt good. Like, whole winter, I feel like shit. I haven't done anything around the house barely constantly depressed, constantly like, oh, I gotta call a doctor, that kind of shit. Yesterday I wake up and I'm just like, wow, I feel good.

I feel really good for some reason. I went outside. I have degrees out. 80 degrees out. It's really nice. And I was, I was feeling good. Yesterday I'm feeling good today. But yesterday I was like,

and I was curious about this walk. I'm on my way home from Red Bank with Mary Beth and I'm talking to her. And I'm like, what if like, at the end of your life, like your last day, God makes it so it's a great day, regardless. It doesn't matter if you're going through cancer, like in your mind, you're not.

Okay. You're somewhere else. So I'm like, what if today is my last day on earth? Yeah. And I don't even know it, but that's God's little parting gift you. It's nice to give it to you. No, I was having the conversation.

So a lot of people got fucking murdered. They're last day of the same way. But they wouldn't know it though. They wouldn't even know they were murdered that day because in their mind, they're living a totally different life. I love people that are trapped in basements like handcuffed to a radio. I'm not counting those coaches. And it's not their last day. They still have more suffering. That's what you're saying. On the day you're actually going to expire your God goes, I'm going to put your brain in another situation so you don't suffer on the in the end. And I said, what if moments

after that because it's all on the dash cam audio, get into an accident and die both of us. Would that give you more of a feeling of like maybe there isn't afterlife? Maybe he was on the something. May personally. Yeah. Yeah, no. No. Oh, you're in a guest. I mean, it's something like, sure. I'm sure my beliefs are, you know, they're kind of set with or without, you know, your what if scenario.

But it wouldn't give you a little bit more like, wow, like he's sort of predicted his own death. Like within moments. I think a lot of people died in concentration camps and they didn't have a great last day before they were. They don't know it though. Look at them. They know.

They're fucking no. They're trim, they're looking good. They're concerned. No. No. No. Try to be edgy. I don't got this.

Am I funny? He's out. I just want to hear it with the Mary Witch ever. Wait, what were we talking about? You said I was going to hear with the Mary whichever big day. Oh wait, what were we talking? You said I was gonna talk about television for an hour No, I just want to hear what you're gonna say I said run have you was a little house in the prairie lady You were saying that I said rump lead oak potentially seemed resentful that he was tight cast as Horseshaq because he was a King Lear guy.

And you said, same for America. Oh, yeah, my with children, Steve Rhodes, the guy who, yes, he was, I didn't know this until I looked it up recently. He was like a theatrical actor. And that's why he left my with children. He came back, he's like, basically, this has been ether. He came back a couple times.

Well, you know what, it was mostly 10 McIntyre Lee after that. You know what's wild? He came back a few times. And then after the whole thing, he did a spin-off of married with children. No, there was a spin-off? There was a spin-off. It didn't, the pilot, and that was it, never went.

There was a spin-off about a college radio station. It was the college that Bud Bundy apparently was attending, but it centered on Bud Bundy's friends being DJs at a college radio station and Steve Rhodes, the character, ran the radio station or he was like the Dean of the College or something. And I'm like, after all this shit, you left the big hit show to go through theater

and now you're doing a spin off of the hit, you're back where, you know what I mean? So I think maybe he miscalculated I do and they bring that back I guess he can't afford my you think you think you can come back and do a voice Yeah, you think they're still gonna do it with Christina applegate being a little sick Meal I feel so bad. I think that she could probably sit there. I would do it right. Yeah, I would Yeah, I'm about on the I'm like no we can yeah, no problem her so. Yeah. I found out about it on the, I'm like, no, we can. Yeah, no problem.

I'll do her voice. Yeah, whatever. Hey guys, this me. Dude, at one point they had a, they had a Bribu series in development that was gonna be or centered on him and his family. Okay, that's not a bad idea for a C. It's not a bad idea.

I feel bad for him though, because I feel like this guy has gotten blue bald by this married with children reboot like three times. You know what I mean? And like he's the one I feel like, I don't not try to shit on it, but like it seems to keep probably needs it more than the other, the other, the other, the other, the other three keeps skating from fucking TV show to TV show, you know what I mean?

Successful TV shows, big TV shows. Yeah. Oh, dude, he went, uh, uh, uh, uh, Edo Nio had like a couple of intern stints on shows that last like three seasons and then a lands modern family. Yeah. He, you know, Ed O'Neill was, I just read David Milch's book. Uh, he was his first choice for swearing,

and for real, and deadwood. Oh, I think you told me that he wrote it for Ed O'Neill and, and they shot some screen test. And he, he was like, that's him they shot some screen test and he was like, that's him and H.B. I was like, no. That's El Bundi. Yeah, as I went out putting El Bundi in this in the lead in the show. You hate, it's one of those things he's capable and I've seen him in so much stuff where

he's not El Bundi and he's always great, but he's a guy you hate seeing him not as El Bundi. You just want him as El. I don't know. I never really watched a ton of mine. I don't translate it any time I did. I was like, he's really good on it. There's great. The early seasons are good as they get older.

It's yeah. Yeah. He's great and he does a lot of the David Mammoth movies. He's awesome. Oh, come in like friend like an FBI guy like fast talk and he's awesome. Yeah. And I'm always happy to see him. But you're always like that's how funny.

Yeah. It's like Harris. I do that with Harrison Ford. No matter how good he is and anything, I'm like, that's Indiana Jones pretending to be a lawyer right now. You know what I mean or whatever it is. Like I want him to be Indiana Jones. Even in regarding Henry? I love regard him.

He did not, he did not remind me of Indiana Jones. No, he doesn't remind me. I'm just saying in my head, it's like, you're Indiana Jones and anything you do is in the antigen's pretending to be another. Somebody put a whip in his hand. Yeah, or Han Solo too. Yeah, but you know, similar characters obviously. I love regarding Henry.

Yeah, I fell in love with Henry, right? Oh, yeah. Who did that? I know. Can we go do a separate podcast please, Joe? I mean, I gotta be honest, I feel like I'm holding over. I feel like I'm hosting your podcast. I know.

I'm sitting here and I'm like, I can't believe this shit. I was excited. I think you have questions. All right. What, what, what, what, what, we do a proper introduction. Sometimes we forget to age, we did, right? Like, no, I think I introduced it.

Yeah. It was a door of Joe DeRosa New York based comedian he's toured with some pretty big names he's open for some pretty big names he's he's done his own he's you're doing your own show right now right your own your own tour yeah I never promise you a Rose Garden yes and I was gonna go see it in New York because I saw it was coming up soon and then I was like wait a second Avonel That's in Jersey. That's the club. I'm going to September. We have Yeah September. We see in September look a forward to that. Yeah, very close. Well, it's like my whole bridge

Yes, don't even have to go all the way up to the city Avonel. Yeah, I imagine you are yeah, right? That's right. I forgot those are your stopping grounds I'm not familiar with it at all and and I have family from my parents in Jersey, but I don't know how to know. He is a real problem with Jersey today. I got a phone call from him on the way down. He was picking me up at the John Bar Show of East Asia.

Bitchens not the word. You're going to have some of like snap and like just start screaming in a guttural language. I mean, if I listen back to him, you know, like, oh, the dashcam shirt. I got that today. You have some issues navigating the state of New Jersey. It's not the Rose. It's so easy, Parkway to Highway, and you're here. No, the Rose, the Rose.

I'm so sick. This is, this is my impression of New Jersey, ready? You missed the turn. That's gonna be a big problem. It's like Jesus fucking Christ! Can I make a fucking U-turn? We got the jug handles. We got the jug handles, my wife.

The jug handles are the stupid fucking thing. You stay in Jersey a little while, my wife said the same thing when she first moved here. Now she's like, I thank God every day for jug handles. I hear. By the way, hear your wife's been saying a lot of interesting things. She has been doing all right. I can't.

Oh, what's going on? Is it any small wonder that she's here right now? Uh-huh. She never comes to watch us record. I don't even see her. She came today. It was a pretty short short. She's wearing some short shorts.

Well, wow. I don't mind saying she's not wearing a brazier. I see how she hides up when Joe de Rosas was out. I just gotta go home and fuck the bolt of the mud. Yeah, I'm not above it. I'm not below it. I gotta tell you, let me just say how flattered I am. First of all, let me start at the beginning of my flattery.

So when I made friend, okay, there's a lot of love in this room right now. When I made friends with Sal first, okay, and that's obviously been a big part of my life. And Sal and I are very, very close and outside of doing the show together, he just means a lot to me. Sal then introduced me to Q.

Q, it was like love it for a site for me. I will, I start talking to his parents. I'm like, I wanna be best friends with this guy. So bad, and I don't know how to tell him that, because it's a weird thing to say. And then I remember this, this is true story. I went to the Joker's premiere of the movie. And I was walking through the, we were walking through the party.

And I saw Q, and I got like excited. And then Q, as he was walking past me, goes, do, do, do, don't leave. He don't leave. Dude, I've been thinking about you. I got with you. And I was like, it's totally true. You need me. It's turning you off? Oh, I get been thinking about you. I got with you. It's totally true. You need me.

It's turned you off? No, I get it off. That's great. For the first time I wanted someone who wanted me back. You was on the Joker's, one of the Joker screws, and I don't think I ever interacted with you at all. No. I thought you hated me on that cruise.

No, no. I was thinking, I thought I wasn't for you. Let's put it down. No, I barely hung out. But then I did this podcast on that cruise. Yes, right. And out. I thought I wasn't for you. Let's put it down. No, I barely hung out. But then I get this hot cast on that cruise. Yes, right. I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And then we hung out a sales place and we just started talking Star Wars. Was the Star Wars like kind of- That was before the premiere. The Star Wars, that's- Yeah, that's what me and Steve burn. Right. Was when I was like, I wanna be friends with this guy.

Yeah, I walked away being like, I think I like him. Jay was making fun of me. Jay was doing those things. And they're like, me and Joe are going to have three kids to cart in a mansion. Okay. And big Jay was making fun of me because at the night of the, the premiere, we ended up going down to the bar after we had had drinks together. Yeah. And at the bar, you're like, bud, we're going to hang out like that. And you go, you're a comedian, you like, I'm friends with some comedians, you like Mike Fanoya.

And I didn't say yes fast enough, and I love Mike Fanoya. I didn't say yes fast enough, and you went like this, you went, oh shit, you don't like Mike, it's okay. It's already, and I go, no, no, I love Mike. And you're like, well great, me, you and Mike, should hang out, and I go great. And I was telling Jay that story, and I go, something got weird, he thought I didn't, well, great, me and Mike should hang out. I go, great. And I was telling Jay that story. And I go, something got weird. He thought I didn't like Mike.

And Jay was being a fun to me. And he's going, should I like Mike? Should I like Mike? I don't have to like Mike. I don't have to like Mike. I don't have to like Mike. Whatever you want. Do you like Mike?

I don't know. Do you like Mike? Anyway, so then me and Q became really, really great fast friends. I love the guy. And then I met you years and years ago when I was opening for Burr in Red Bank at that, the Count Basie, is it?

Red Count Basie. And we're an extension court as a belt to that show. Because my are falling down I didn't have a belt so I use the extension court I Took it from the set Yeah, did you came up to us after the show and I was talking to you And I was like Fuck do I know this guy from and then you're like we have a TV and I was like wait wait wait I was like then you're like, we have a TV and I was like, we, I was like, wait, you're like comic, I'm like, you fucking comic book man.

So you got all excited about that. You invited us to the store the next day. Yeah. We went to the store, we bought a bunch of, I bought a bunch of comic. You gave me a copy of the comic that you wrote. Right. And I was so over the moon because,

because growing up, I was 18 when clerks came out. And every kid in Pennsylvania in the Philadelphia area or in South Jersey felt like, well, we should be friends with all of them. You know what I mean? It's like how I feel about the agri video game nerd. I've never met James, I met James Rolf once at a fan convention or something very passively. But you watch Cinem massacre and you watch that whole crew and like the hack, the movies and all those guys.

I'm like, why should I should just be friends with them? Like that's what I'm from. I'm from that. I thought I was special. I was like, he's making friends. I'm already all the media landscape. Nobody listen. You're close to edging Sal out at this point.

So I'm just, yeah, I can't believe I have an overcome Sal. It's just more of a business relationship between you two at this point. There's'm just, yeah, I can't believe I have an overcome salary. It's more of a business relationship between you two at this point. There's very little love with me in salary more, very little passion. It's all money. It's all transactional. No, but anyway, but but we all felt that way about clerks.

We were all in the, so when I met you, I was like the fucking, oh, that's awesome. And then we were in the, the secret stash and all that. It was just, was that why your first words to me were like, this is destiny? And I was like, yes. All right.

Yeah, I think you did the kiss you, huh? Anyway, cut to, broken up. But we never really talked after that. And once in a while, I'd see you in whatever. And then just what I'm getting to, I was always in my head like,

I really like Brian Johnson. I want us to be closer. He's preventing it. And then one day, Q was like, you know, Johnson like fucking loves you. And I was like, really? So you're two times. It's only that I had man crushes on.

So excited when I heard that you both felt the same. What about me? There's this toxic masculinity wall where where like we all love each other, but we can't bring ourselves to say it? I don't think it's helpful for me to identify with this, because like I don't actively pursue any new friends. Like it's not something that I'm worried about. I don't stress about it if somebody's made or doesn't like me.

So it's kind of like this is, I think this is a younger, a younger generation Sting like probably when you get my age of I'm 55 oh I'm the exact same age is him. I'm still doing this shit. I don't think it's an age 55 you know 55. Yeah, I thought you guys were both are like, you know, we're 45. Just turn 47. I'm straight edge to Are you really straightest of edge? Yeah Have you always been? Since I was 18. That's the, yeah, that's the age to do it, right?

Yeah, but I had a high school. There's no need to. I get no pussy. Oh, great straight edge. Is that also counted? Well, I had straight edge. No, well. No, wait, yeah, straight edge was absent and from sex too, was it, all right?

Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, and I couldn't be total 100, straight edge was absent from sex too, was it not? Okay, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, that couldn't be total 100% straight edge. It's weird, the rules of strategy have become murky because even in watching interviews with Ian McCuy, who I always thought was the, was the, I don't know that I'm just saying. He's the guy from Minor Threat and Fugazi. Okay. I thought he was the, and Discord records. He was, he's the cure. I felt like he was the curator of straight edge and like I've watched interviews with him where he seems not at all

like hung up on it or or hardcore about the rules or anything. So I'm like, maybe we all just got the wrong impression of what straight edge was, you know, like I don't know. I thought it was any substances, no foreign substances. Yeah. I didn't real. I didn't realize. I only saw it. Show me X on your hand. Well, do you have the X? No, no, no, wait, either. My friend, I had friends, they weren't being called Arbor Day, they were punk band, hardcore band, and they had a song called Choose the X that was shitting on straight edge, kid. You don't like that, right? Yeah, they were like, so what if I want to get some? We're so misunderstood. Bob, Bob, Bob.

That's funny, because I find students, people would be the most judgmental pricks of all. Oh, they are. That's so much about that. Yeah, like, they're just, they can't, it's like, they can't, within five minutes, they're telling you this straight edge, they're talking about why.

No, that's what's happening. It's like, second to vegans. Yeah, like, I mean that fucking gelatin. Yeah, there's like, that's real good. I have that seven in general. I'll see if I can digit. I'll send you the two. Whoa, what are you talking about?

Again, we have to start our own podcast. Here we are. So I love both of you very much. Walt, I'm getting to know you, and I like what I know. So, for the first time, I'm pursuing you. As earnestly as you pursue us. I mean, I imagine wooing them or you wooing him is a quick process.

It clicks almost instantly, right? Not in so much, you don't see for it. I'm sorry. But now, here's the thing that me and Q, the thing that the reason I clicked with Q, we disagreed very much on some of the Star Wars sequel stuff when we first talked about it, but we agreed totally on the prequels.

And I've never, I seldom ever meet a, but we agreed totally on the prequels. And I've never, I seldom ever meet a guy that agrees with me on the prequels. Everybody I meet about the prequels says they suck. And Q was the guy that was like, no, no, they don't suck. And like that's a huge bonding thing for me. Like that's, it's, it's, it, it, it sounds small, but it's, I mean, I was the guy that when Phantom Menace

came out, which scream at people at parties that it was good. Like literally, I'm not exaggerating when Phantom Menace came out, would scream at people at parties, but that it was good. Like literally, I'm not exaggerating. Like where people would be like, why don't you take it easy? Yeah, look at base that on, no? Second. What do you base that on that it was good?

Cause I have a feeling you will walk around about to not be afraid. Wow. I honestly don't even remember what my argument was from the time, but it was very much, I got really into it all makes sense because it's setting up what's to come and just because you didn't get the payoff and this one doesn't mean it's not cut. It was a lot of that kind of stuff.

And I also thought the action was great and it had it had the Lucas touch and blah blah blah blah. I would not argue as I still like it, but I would not argue as hard now as I did then. Yeah, that's what we met in it because I was, you know, at this point, we started talking the Seagulls 20-year-old at that point. So you've time to be like, I, you know, they got the good in them. I like, I can watch them now, but I'll be like, where, what, what, why is this exactly what I want it to be? I think it's fun with them.

I just have a joke about Coke, about cocaine. Yeah. Where I said, uh, I said, nobody ever dies from uppers. People only die from downers. The story is always the guy passed out and he never woke up again. Nobody goes. He stayed up all night in the kitchen, talking

about how the Phantom Menace wasn't that bad, and then he dropped dead. Cause that's coke, but that was based on a real situation where he did a bunch of drugs. In a kitchen of a trailer, and I was bad, but this girl took me back to her trailer, and I talked for hours about the Phantom Menace. It was actually a good movie. I didn't want to waste a coke straight outside.

That's definitely not straight. No, we not straight up. Yeah, some a little joke. You didn't like the Coke in the lens. It's Rayleigh, it doesn't like Alabama. Yeah, that's like Phantom Man. Wolf Latinx band for life, guest list. Joderosa number one. Don't ban me, I don't have a cool one.

Did you ever want to do anything else aside from being a comedian, actor, type thing? What did you want to do like, when you were 18, you're watching clerks. I thought I wanted to make movies. I wanted to do that. That's honestly what I wanted to do. I started to write screenplays when I was, and I wanted to be a musician.

So I played music all through high school and bands, I played in hardcore bands and stuff, and I wrapped from a very young age. When I was in college, I had a rap group, and we took it really seriously. I met, when I got out in college, I had a rap group. And we took it really seriously. I met when I got out of college, I maxed out all my credit cards and bought equipment at the, which at the time was very hard to get

and expensive to create beats and produce beats so I could pursue hip-hop very sincerely. But I used to jump into like ciphers and freestyle and like I was serious about it. And I thought that that's like I was serious about it. And I thought that that's what I was going to do. And I was still drumming in hardcore bands and sometimes singing in them and doing hip hop. And it was at the, you know, and at that time, you know, the BC boys, ill communication had just come out. And it was all of that

mainstream stuff was starting to blend. Rap it was all of that mainstream stuff was starting to blend. Rap rock was becoming a thing which I hated, but it was just bridging the gap between rap and the other types of music I liked. So that's what I wanted to do. And then the other thing I wanted to do, which I went to school sort of for, was make movies.

And I wrote scripts and plays and all these things. I used to work at a kiosk in the King of Pressure Plaza and I would sit there writing, I would pick jobs at kiosks that weren't very busy. I worked at a, I'm not kidding, I worked at a kiosk that sold babushkas. You know, you get like two customers a day, so I could sit there and write all day. Right. And I thought I was going to do both of those things. I ended up, I still do music and have some music stuff on the horizon. And I've written things and been paid to write things for television mainly. And I've sold a couple of screenplay ideas.

And I directed a short film that did really well in the circuit, the festival circuit, but I never made movies. I never, that was the thing I really, really thought I was going to do. I moved to Austin, Texas to do it in the wake of the Richard Linkletter, Robert Rodriguez thing. And I don't necessarily regret not doing it. I just, I've directed a lot of stuff. I just never, I don't know what never happened.

I just never, it's a lot, it's a lot of fucking work. And then honestly, I'd hear the stories from guys like Heaven Smith where they would talk about what they had to do to get a movie made. And as somebody who's got a comedian's mind first and foremost, it wasn't an instant enough pay off. Like, their comedians really want its instant gratification. You see results immediately with the product and you can adjust those results in real time.

And you can't do that with film, which I learned in making even a short film. However, it's a much different reward and a much different payoff, but you got to be willing to do it. I was at Tribeca Film Festival. I think this is the thing that put me off of it. I met the guy that wrote the station agent. And the station agent was Peter Dinklage's breakthrough role. That movie was the hottest fucking thing on the indie circuit that year and it was at Tribeca and everybody was talking about

it and I was and his next movie that he made was the one with Richard Witzes face where he plays the bongos and he and he and he got like nominated for Oscars and shit think. I believe that was the next film. Anyway, I was at the party for the festival opening, talking to him. I was like, so that's fucking, so what's next, man? It's just how exciting is this? He goes, I don't know, man, I gotta just... He said it was such a life. I was like, I don't know what to do with this. This looks like, and then I saw a member see an interview at that time with Scorsese, where he's like, I don't know what I want to do this. Like this does not, this looks like, and then I saw a member see an interview at that time with Scorsese, where he's like,

you get the idea and you go on to the invest, you try to raise the money and then you got to do it all over again, and I was like, God damn it. That's great. Saisy, yeah. So I think that's what kind of put me off of it, you know? But this makes sense, then, Q, I don't know if you remember this, but we were really laughing.

I don't know if anyone noticed in this entire room, except for me and you, but we had occasion to be in Vegas a few years back. Okay. Jota Rosa was there. And a bunch of the comedians were on stage doing music. Yes. So you were up on stage and you were singing the tunes for. I think.

Oh, thank God. I'm right on camera. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yes. Yes. We were in Vegas. I think oh Right on camera yeah Yes, we were in Vegas But he's cut to this angle yeah, and I have me there you go. Oh, oh, yeah, okay. Yes, I remember them So a bunch of the comedians that were there that's where somebody gave me a 50 milligram gummy that I was told it was like five and then the next thing. No, there were rockets going on

I don't know I was like I was like I would not I'm in the middle of a fucking We're in the middle of a fucking Elton John concert and suddenly I'm like what the fuck is going on right now? Is it bad or could you handle it? Oh, I can handle it But I wish wasn't prepared for it. It was like you got roofied. No, I might have been him Somebody had these capsules with powdered THC in them and they were like really strong You got roofied? No, it might have been him. So what's the, yeah. Somebody had these capsules with powdered THC in them

and they were like really strong. I was under the impression it was 5 milligrams. It was 5. It was the great night. He took 10 times. It's the active ingredient in cannabis. Oh, so he's just pot. Yeah, in fill form.

Believe me, we were all judging him. He's all knocked out. No, I think he was pot. I was like, you gotta recap. I'm sure an ex-assamely. It'll never happen again. Yeah, Pat, Pottle, if you eat it, it makes you, it can make you like trippin' shit.

Oh, I was in a fucking other universe. I was listening to fucking the rocket man and I was on my own trip. Is Jay Miller in a dress? He is an address. Jay Miller might have been an address. Yeah. But anyway, so you're up on stage.

It's your turn and you're singing and... Yeah, kickstart my heart, but my heart broke. And at first, the first 30 seconds, I'm like, I don't think Dorosa's gonna win this crowd over. It was like 30 seconds of them not being excited. And then you jumped off the stage. Do you remember? And you approached like, it was like a barrier with like sandbags and shit

And you were like singing to the audience and everybody got really excited everybody went crazy Yeah, and you went back to the stage and I guess the guitarist or something like you reached up to have him pull you back up on the stage And he's like that is not happening You look up like this look of like help me. He's just like Yeah You look up like this look of like help me and he's just like Get back. I'm gonna get back on the stage Yeah, you're Trying to keep that energy up with the crowd I remember

pouring my heart and soul into my Singing of kickstart your heart Because I bombed so bad with the standup That That crowd hated my standup so much. And I was like, you mother fuckers. And then I was like, I got a, I got a, how apt that the song's called kickstart your heart. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You want him over. Yeah, you definitely want him over for sure. Yeah, but then fucking pig the Stefano comes out. A fucking pig of pigs comes out and sings Whitney Houston. I wanna dance with somebody. He can't sing it. He doesn't know the words.

And he just starts like this. Oh, baby. And all the girls are like, hide all waves coming out of their coaches. I'm like, you motherfucker, dude. Oh my god, it made me so mad. I couldn't talk for like a day after. I'm just gonna steal the probably crew shark.

Try and coochess everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. That was a pretty fun time. Do you have, is there any serious beef with any other comedians? I know comedians love to beef. They like, they love to talk shit about each other.

Oh, look at this tattoo. Well, I know he's the key problem. So tattooed problems. Sticks. Ha ha ha ha. Kitas stick, I love those things. No, I mean, I got my, you can't admit to it. I've got my internal issues with people

that are not worth pursuing. It won't get me anywhere, but I don't have any overt beef with anybody. I have certain opinions on people that don't even know I have opinions on them because they don't even know who the fuck they are. You know what I mean? But that's my biggest gripe with any, there's a personality type of amongst comedians and it's probably amongst famous people really but you don't get to you get to a certain place because you're

willing to sacrifice certain things and and and and one of those things is is is some of your humanity or can be which is why it's such a beautiful anomaly when you you see a guy like Adam Sandler, Ray Romano. And you're like, this fucking guy like goes home to his wife and kids. And he's like, I've met Ray Romano, I don't know him, but I've met him. I'm like, he's, he's Ray Romano.

Like, he's that guy. Like, he's got like light coming off of him. He's a good soul, you know? And there are guys that get to the top and remain intact or whatever. But you know, it's like politics. It's a corrupting system and there's a certain personality type

that thinks I deserve this. So therefore, I know a certain percentage of let's call them successful comedians that have slided me or others in certain ways and you're like, all right, dude, I see who you are now as a person and that's you and that's on you. And they never quite understand. Are you talking about Sal? No, no, no, no, that's who we're getting at here.

As a matter of fact, you and Sal, because I know... Our comedians. Our comedians. And aren't thatians. Yeah. And aren't that talented? Yeah. No, no. No, you and Sal are two guys that I use as examples.

Because I know Joe, I'm friendly with Joe, but I don't know him the way I know you guys. And I don't know Murr at all. But like you and Sal, I say all the time, I go, those two fucking guys are two of the only guys I've ever met that have international fame and wealth, let's be honest, you know, that are normal dudes. I go like, I go, dude, you don't, I go, you don't meet guys like that anymore. You don't meet, you don't meet guys that go, oh, shit, I feel bad.

Is that like, like, guys go into this where it's like, yeah, you can never apologize. You can never say no, you can never, because that is not how you get a, you know, like, guys go into this where it's like, you can never apologize. You can never say no, you can never, because that is not how you get a, you know what I mean? You can never be wrong. It's like, So you immediately coddled you when you were like, I hate Mike Fenoya. In a right way.

How the fuck am I, bro? That's a gift, I can't. How do I have a gift with this Mike Fenoya? Yeah, the nicest banding comedy. Yeah. But no, I mean, you know, there are guys that, you know, so you're not talk shit about them because inevitably they will talk shit back about you.

It's just easier not to start none. Don't start none there won't be none. No, I don't care about that. I think it's just a sort of, it's just never a good look. You know, it's like, I've done it. I've taken shots at people. I'm not above it, but like, it's not a good look. It's, there's a difference between, you know,

I'm a huge rap fan. And there's always, it's a fine line, but there's a fine line between a rapper that takes a shot at another rapper, and it's justified at a rapper that's doing something to get attention. You know what I mean? You know, Eminem had a whole fucking record about him,

where he's like, he's like, every time I mention your fucking name, millions of views, win, win for you, lose, lose for me. You know what I mean? It's like, I think he was saying I'm a machine gun Kelly, but like, but yeah, it's like, that's the thing. And I'm not saying I'm M&M or it's a lose, lose for me.

I'm just saying like, there's a difference between, I have a legit grievance and I'm taking a shot and there's a reason to take that shot in public. And no, there's no, you're just doing this to get some fucking attention now. I, you know, so, you know, and I've done it in the past and I've almost 100% of the time regretted it because I just wasn't the way to handle it, you know. That's my, you know, well, should we start some podcast beef with somebody? Because we used to have it with Icel comics, but now they're gone. What if we attack taste buds?

Oh, go ahead. Taste buds. That's the, that's great. comics, but now they're gone. What if we attack taste buds? Oh, go on. That's the great. This is like where I know we're beefing internally. Me and shall like, you know, but this room into no, I want to, I really, I, the thing I've been looking forward, I just want to make sure we get to it as I want him to play. Just like, yeah, we got a little bit of time. We got 20 minutes play. Let me read my, let me read more. I got to read real fast time. And then we'll go into that, uh,

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Well actually, I mean I only have a few dyslexia Examples for Joe, but like said it came up with a me and Tom came up with a brand new I think fucking phenomenal Okay, you want to dive in kind of Kingway's King warm them up. Oh, okay. Well, how do you look you're the master? So you go ahead Yeah, I just want them to understand There's a game that I came up with years ago that the listeners adore, but not enough. We hate it.

They don't like it. It doesn't involve it. Yeah, it was just sense. You know how hard it is to get me like going? Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dislexing gets me going. Yeah.

So the poor people 100% of the time. Yeah. You go like you, you're mad, you mean? I'm just like, you're frustrated. You're frustrated. There's no zen. I've never seen you for, I don't know if I've ever seen you angry in my life.

Yeah, well, I can play back. Except during beer pong, you'll get, you'll get, yeah, well, you'll get me that. You'll get me that. That's you, you get me that. Can I tell a beer, I got a beer pong story. Go, go, the beer pong story. Is that okay?

No, I'm sorry. Do you guys know me in Q's history with beer porn? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Wow, yeah. What's the comedy seller had a, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, no, tell, you go, go. I, you and I will play beer porn against each other.

It's what really was the foundation of our friendship after Star Wars. And I talk so much shit that it's in like, we'll give him. And I, but I win. What is wanted you I win and I talk a lot of shit he wins it really runs you down while he's beating you like there's no fun like after a while because you're just getting a abuse heaped on you while you're getting drunk and it's like playing ping pong with him. He does the same thing. And he does this annoying fucking thing we're like and once we see because you know the ball goes on the cup, he got to drink it. Yeah.

The second his ball goes in your cup, he goes, now drink it. And you have to drink it. So it feels like you're telling you what's bad. And it's just like, it's a fucking fucking guy. Like, and then you got to drink it. And he's got that lamp and he's just laughing at you. Sometimes in your own fucking pool, like, it just gets me where I'm like, like, round them.

We had a barbecue, and my fucking new neighbor just moved in next door, and like, this was our introduction. I was like, I'm going to come over and it's like, cut to them, standing next to the beer pong table. While him and I are fucking, property values are plummeting all over the neighborhood, because we just fucking scream in that each other.

Yeah, so that's it. Yeah. I go to the comedy show where they did a, like a way late holiday party a few nights ago. And I go to this thing and then they bought all this Joey roses, right? They bought like 20 platters of Joey roses. So it's sitting there. Incidentally, Joey roses is a sandwich up that you want. Yeah, some sorry. As far as you own in New York, Sydney.

Yeah. Come on down. 174 Remington Street, jollyrosisnyc.com. So I'm, so I get there at like, before the party starts, because I wanted to make, because it was a seller, I wanted to make sure everything was okay.

So I'm drinking from like 9 p.m. Like on, cut to, I'm not exaggerating, 2 a.m. They've got a beer park table. I Finally make my way over this girl's been on this table all night, and she's talking shit I walk up. I find out she's playing with water And just sipping a beer as she plays and dude. I don't know any of these people playing I go You're playing with fucking water Get the fuck out of here.

This is bull shit, right? She's like, fuck you. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I know. I go, that's how you play this fucking game, right? I distract her so much she loses. And gets booted off the tape. Then the guy that wins goes, all right, tough guy, you're talking all this shit.

Let's go. I go, if you're going to play fucking right, I'll play. Let's go. So guys, we're going to play right. So, Nino Connor, my buddy, O'Connor is a really funny comic. We step up to the table. They do the big rack, like the 18, right? And we dump two or three beers in.

Dude, Mino Connor come out of the gate. Hot dude. We're sinking. Cup after cup. Dude, I won my first shot, I sink one, right? And I go, that's how the motherfucking game is played. Drink that shit, dude. I'm eating stone.

Fucking obnoxious, right? And these guys are like, Jesus Christ. Like, what is your problem? This fucking guy. Yeah. I don't know who these people are. Right? I mean, so actually we're syncing cups of the cup.

The other team makes us come back, dude. They start syncing our cups now. It comes down to one on one cups. We're down to a single cup each, dude. We're down to single cups each, dude, and we're both trying to sink the other guy's last cup for like 12 minutes, dude. It's tense because nobody can hit the last cup. And we're barreled, you know?

And at one point, the guy throws first shot, he misses, and the ball goes under the table. And I go down to get the ball, I bump the table and my cup spills And the guy goes that's it that's game. Oh And I go that's not fucking game and he goes he goes that's game He goes you knock your cup over that's game I go if I knock it over and play I didn't not we're not in play goes you know that's the fucking rule mr. Rule I see how it is now right now he's gonna give it back to me and I'm like yeah, yeah, all right that's the fucking rule, Mr. Rule. And I'm like, I see how it is now, right?

So he's gonna give it back to me. And I'm like, yeah, all right. That's game, that's game, yeah. And the guys are like, yeah, that's game. And they come over to shake their hands, my hand, I go, fuck you. And I walk away. I walk away.

I walk away. The next day, I take so counter, I go, I was such an asshole. I go, who were those people? He goes, it was Steph. I'm not out. Oh my God, no, dude, they were gonna see them. I thought it was Steph at your sub shop. No, no, no, no, it was at the comedy show.

No, no, no, no, no, at the no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a sip of beer. I'm fucking down, let's do it, I'm not trying it. Yeah. Get him, waste that beer, I know you keep on your desk. Get him, get him, get him. So how does the game work? So I give you... I can't wait for this. Oh, I've been waiting for this for months. And I'm going to give to you two words.

Okay. These two words are the exact opposites of the of the word I want you to guess. Got it. So let's say it was like stop play could be go dark. Great. Yeah. That's a simple one. Some medellis. I'm good. I'm good. I'm in. Johnson, you drink earlier. I'm in. I'm going to drink later.

I just go get my car. So we, so, but, but like the, so I understand the concept. The word you're trying to guess is it a legitimate thing or phrase, though. Like, stoplight is a thing that exists. Is the thing I'm trying to guess that's opposite also a thing that exists or am I just trying to guess the random words that reflect well The lore of the game is that you have to use your Not imagine say it say lateral thinking say it if you know what that is good for you

Part of your mind where if this doesn't have an exact opposite, but what's as close to an opposite as you can come to logically, you know, sometimes the words of switch to because it's opposite. Yes. So like a theoretical device that would be the opposite of a stoplight that also that it also is the opposite of the words themselves Well, I mean if you're in you stoplight it would be go dark But that's go dark go is the opposite of stop dark is the opposite of light you wouldn't get stoplight You would get go dark and you'd have to come up with stoplight so then my question is the The the dyslexic thing or the opposite thing isn't necessarily an object.

It's not object to object. It's not phrase to phrase. Are you getting close on his face during this? I really want really question on him. I don't need to be in this shot. I'm over taking it. I think you're over thinking. So just when you're nervous.

All right. You know, shake it out and just really think're nervous. You're just nervous. All right. You know, shake it out and just really think it's like, are you sure you don't do drugs? Dude, if you saw the way this guy draws, it's insane. You would be like, he needs to be institutionalized. No drugs. All right. Just, you know, it's, this isn't more, it's not really like, this isn't our funny part of

our podcast, it's more like the, for the men's us in our crowd, in our listener base. Okay. Which doesn't include being Q and F. Yeah. In the crowd and then staff. Did you know, get them as an IQ of 148?

No. Yeah, it's out there right now. No, I think you have things. That's right. So for, but I'm really excited about this new game that I never have played with these guys for, but for to get your warmed up, here's a little dyslexia.

Looking for two word phrase thing, something that, you know, when you hear the two words, you're like, oh yeah, okay, that makes sense. But your clues are wither dark. I think I know this one. I think should I say it? Yeah, it'd be great for you to say it and then- Oh, like, growlite? What?

Growlite? Wither grow? Dark light? Fuck you! See this is why he's an asshole! You see the face? Like, I had a perfectly acceptable answer grow light With their with their with their dark you said was the clue with with their dark dying light Close how is that not it? Bro I scroll like not it dying light with their dark. That's perfect dying light. Oh, is that a video game or something?

What the phrase die light? Is it like how to use it in a phrase? Well, I can what would be I'm like the star-spangled banner or something? Dying light I've heard well, it is the video game as well, but it is a video. Maybe it's just a video game No, no, that's when the sun's going down Yeah, do you want to take a shot and I heard it took two? Yeah, we can do another one It's just a video game. No, no, that's not one. That's when the sun's going down. It's like, yeah. Do you want to take a shot? And I heard it. It took two.

Yeah, we can do another one. At this one. No, I'm not. At least you didn't get the face. Like, what is it like? With your dark hair. By the way, this, the man who just gleefully took a beer on the drive it is going, you know, it's not going to be a big all night or tonight.

I got I got a past. Yeah, okay. All right. Fine. He's like once at 1201. All right. Go ahead. But you know that one of the words was correct, though. Life. Yeah. Okay. With their very apropos too. I'll also give you another clue. With their... Very apropos too, I'll also give you another clue with her What's the opposite of with her grow? Oh Whether dyesha dying dying is a synonym. We did an opposite. Yeah, shit Other ones Not growing white. No, I mean, it's not stoplight

It is bud light. Uh, weather, the opposite of weather, with your bud, like a flower bud. That's very good. Okay. I got you. Okay. Oh, you know, this is still my question. Is the answer always something that exists, a phrase, an object, bud light is a thing that exists, a phrase, an object. Bud Light is a thing that exists. It's never just two random words. No, that's what I'm saying. Okay, I got it. Okay, now I got it.

That helps you too. Now he's gonna win. Yeah, now. All right. Now I get the rules. Oh, you do? All right, here we go. Sorrow, pebble.

Sorrow, pebble. Saro pebble The opposite of sorrow See now that's easy the opposite of sorrow, but no Pebble that's where you got to use your unilateral portion of your mind. I got to be honest. I don't think the opposite of Saru is easy. Yeah. You guys know what it is? I could be happy.

It's not happy. It's close, but it's not. Like it did like, Is it something bolder? A bobsit of a pe- Do you see what I have to do? As if pebble and boulder being opposites is like, is this guy fucking retarded?

Like, I think that's a good answer. I think pebble is gonna be rock is gonna be the opposite of pebble. No, it's the same thing. He just got the face. He just got the face. Oh, yeah. Peace of the rock. You fucking idiot.

We have me and Darius arrived here on the same short bus. I just thought. The opposite of sorrow, I don't, what is the opposite of sorrow? Joy. Oh, see, was to get a sorrow is like I'm sorry. I'm apologizing. Sorrow? Sorrow would be sad. I got confused. I got confused. Like now you see why he wanted to play that. I was thinking because I was thinking it's confusing.

It's your first time playing. But honestly, you know why I said that sorrow like that because active sorrow was a Catholic thing growing up and that meant like You were more for sin. I You know, yeah, that's why my head went so it's cute right? What do you see it? I take a stab so it's so the opposite of pebble is We know the first part is joy Bob's a pebble joy blank. Joy, well the opposite of pebble could be a raindrop.

Uh, uh, water of some sort. It's definitely not bolder. I know that much. You know that, uh, joy. Well, water is contains life. There's a rock contain life. I'm sure that was a cue. The security. Now it's you. That's the one you're hoping for. Yeah, that's the last two. That's the last two.

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That's the last two. That's the last two. That's the last two. That's the last two. That's the last two. That's the one you're hoping for. That's the last thing. Oh, Joystick. But stick is not the opposite of a pebble. Sure it is. It would be the opposite of stick. No, it's the same thing.

A twig is a part of a stick. No, no, no, but a- The lock doesn't live. A twig is part of a living thing. No, no, no, but a lot doesn't live a twig is part of a living thing. No, no, no, no. If you said, if you said, give me a twig, you'd get this. If you said, give me a stick, it'd be this. It's shrinking pleasures. Growing hatred. Very close. Very close? What was it? Shrinking pleasures.

Shrinking pleasures. Shrinking pleasures. I know this one. I got this one. I do. You want? You should say it. I don't. It's going to be growing pains.

Yes. There you go. That was a good one. Yeah, that was a good one. All right. I'll do it. Inhaled sisters. Inhaled sisters. Inhaled sisters.

This is a tricky one. This is where you really gotta use your unilateral mind because the opposite of any- You're telling us it's dusty. I still don't know you a lot of me. I'll be extra- But I know that that's not what it is, because how you're doing-

Wait, what was it again? Inhaled sisters. Inhaled sisters. Yes, because I was it again inhaled sisters inhaled sisters Well could the opposite of inhale be blood? Yeah Could the opposite of sisters please be brothers at least okay Right So opposite of inhaled which would be technically ex exhaled, and it's not exhaled brother.

But this is the thing that you got the second word. It should make it so easy now. You've no idea. No, it's something that's a common phrase. It's a common phrase. I understand. So, I'm going to close the flip in the table. I understand so Did you know the opposite of a car is a horse

About 20 minutes one day And then this fucking don't want to send takes his side and they both talk to you like that. Oh, that's great It's well look. We know it's not blood brothers. So I'm trying to think of it This this one's this one I threw in here because it's super tricky and it really shows how we are trying to like make people really think outside the box. You know, I don't really. Yeah. Blues brothers. Blue like you blew. That's the opposite of inhale.

It because you blow. Uh, that's, that's too much. You can't go Can't go with like with like what's that called hominem when it's a word You blow up your blow into the But blues but now you're into what is that? How many do you have to hold? It's hominins, right? Right? Yeah.

If you start getting into hominins, but do your two ticks, that's tough, man. That's really loud. Yeah, but I don't want to make it easy because it's the challenge that also, the listeners who are playing along at home, they want something that's more, it's hard with these guys because they get so frustrated.

And then usually the words are also, so wouldn't be blood brothers, it would be brothers blood, and you also have to remember to guess the words and flip the words. That's really, that's too much to handle on your first. Yeah, get, sure. But if you've made this into a game of a card game, those would be like the red cards, like these are super hard. We were in talks for a while.

There was a company that reached out to me to do a turn. They said dyslexia was a big thing. They refused to change the name of the world. Yeah, yeah, that's what you should have called it. Backwards is a better thing. But I loved it. It just, it dyslex it just rolls off the tongue. Backwards is a great title and it's a play on words.

You know, but I like the sluxy better. See, just... I just have to hold the... I think that's a deal breaker. I realize, but I think that just also gets people's, like, what is that? What kind of game would be called that? Like that's kind of insensitive, a little bit to call it that for people to have it.

So, it's- He has another game called Down syndrome squares. I mean, he can't understand why nobody wants to pick it up. Let's play the new one now. Let me tell you where your card game is gonna sit on a shelf and what it's gonna be sitting next to. The impractical Joker. I don't know what you think the intellect of the people shopping at Target is.

But I see it every day I go in the Target. My neighborhood divide my little supply. I see it all the time. I stick pictures of it and set it to sell. I go this fucking drive it to be crazy. It's on to me. I'm sorry. Do we got time to do it?

We got time. We got this new game where I've got three clues. Yeah, what's your heart out as they say in the industry? Uh, 130 I guess. What time is it now? Yeah, I think it's one o'clock. I really think if we're on the road any time before, like 145, we're fine. Yeah.

You want me to go like three, yeah. That's probably fine. I just want to take that one. Yeah, yeah. Just give Q and extra beer and let them take the wheel. Yeah, I'm glad you're here because you sound like you have a good grasp of what the concept of that game was. And you also weighed in on the

title. I haven't come up with a firm name for this. It's either oxymo rhymes or rhyme moron. And the concept is an oxymoron refers to a word of phrase or use of language that seems to directly contradict itself. First, I will give you a riddle that the answer to is a two word oxymoron. And if you can't solve it, I'll give you a second riddle, but that riddle's answer is the rhyming word of the first word. I'm like, I play Candy Land with a kid. I'm like, this is too much. I can't deal with it. I don't understand. What did you just say?

Yeah. So first, I will give you each a riddle that the answer to is a two word oxymoron. And what's an oxymoron again? It's like... Dry water. Yeah, exactly. But these are more... Dry water is not a phrase you would use in everyday.

No. Jargon, right? These clues are ones you have heard of before. A jumbo shrimp. There's a good one. Yeah. All right. But if you can't get it off the direct word riddle,

I will give you a second riddle, but that second riddle's answer is the rhyming word. It's like the rhyming cousin of the first one. Of the first word. OK. Then a second, the third riddle will be a rhyming word of the second word in the oxygen. Yeah. Get it off the first riddle. The first riddle is just the oxymoron. Don't have to worry about rhyming word of the second word in the oxy. Yeah, I don't know. Get it off the first riddle.

The first riddle is just the oxymoron. You don't have to worry about rhyming, right? But it's when we get into the second phase of the game. Then we're into, then it becomes the second. I actually got more on. All right, I understand. Rhymora. Yeah.

Yeah. Right, all right. The oxymorimes. I don't know what you're saying, but what you're saying, like, better? Oxymorimes or? Either a great, but the first is better. The second one, what was the second one? Rhymes. I like that one, but what's your name like better? Oxymo Rhymes or? Neither are great, but the first is better. The second one, what was the second one?

Rhymoron. I don't even understand what that means. Rhym, and just adding Oron. That's what I saw to him, man. But I was like, that couldn't possibly be what it is. But that's what it is. Now, the first one's better because it at least implies the whole game. Yeah.

Yeah. Alright, I'll see more on this. We're going to let Joe go first. Okay. Okay, so the overall two-word riddle, the tallest dwarf in a wet circus for three points, Joe. The tallest dwarf, Kittypool. No, incorrect. The tallest dwarf kitty pool. No, incorrect. How is so confident?

It's not that cool. I don't know. So wait, say one more time, Will. The tallest dwarf in a wet circus. That's the riddle. That's the riddle for the overall clue. You're not to worry about rhyming. Now, here's where the fun you. Sunday night detective. The answer to that riddle. Sunday night detective. Rhymes with the first word of our oxymoron.

So, we're going to have to go to the next one. We're going to have to go to the next one. We're going to have to go to the next one. We're going to have to go to the next one. We're going to have to go to the next one. We're going to have to go to the next one. rhymes with the first word of our oxymoron. So it's probably, if I know Walt, it's probably Colombo. So it would rhyme with Colombo.

Now it's under there. It rhymes with Colombo. Yeah. Yeah. That's correct, Brian. Oh wait, oh, jumbo. And wet circus. Well, Twelest Warfin' and wet circus. It's not jumbo shrimp, right? Oh, it is jumbo shrimp. Wait, you just, oh, I just used that as an ice cream. Guys, I could see the lookish out of me.

I thought, oh my God, it's a wet. Damn, you're really like a an option. Yeah, I could see the lookish on him. Shut the whole fuck up. What's the length? I'm doing it really like a... What's the length circus? I don't understand that part. You ever hear of the tallest dwarf in a circus? No. You ever heard that phrase? No.

I've heard the phrase that's... You're like your big shot. You think you're, you know what? You're the tallest dwarf in a circus, but so what? Right, right, right. Still a dwarf. But that circus, so it's a fish. Dwarves are like really... Well, what is the thing? It's the, really? Right. Jumbo. I got you. Jumbo shrimp. All right.

Talking about me. It's tough. Here's what's tough is because you're adding. You're adding concepts that don't exist also to it, which makes it even harder. What doesn't make it like a wet circus is not a thing that's ever existed. It's not a phrase. What doesn't make a wet circus is not a thing that's ever existed. It's not a phrase She was saying so you get I'm getting hung up. I'm like wait, what is a wet circus? Well You have to write that in the rules don't get hung up So I'm gonna give give you that. Okay. Okay.

Thank you. Can you keep track of that, Mary Beth, two points for Joe? I wouldn't have guessed Jumbo Shrims sooner, but I was like, it can't be more. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

Why don't I put the second word though, because I really like this riddle. It's likely a good year if you see one. Blimp. Yeah. That is good. All right. But the answer is not blimp. It's actually a rhyming cousin of the blimp. That is good. That is good. All right. But the entrance is not limp. That's actually your rhyming cousin of the limp. That is good. That is good. All right. So

Bri, okay. You're overall two word riddle. Laurel has a pension for getting into these. Laurel. Remember, it's an oxymoron. Right. Don't have to worry about rhyming at this point. Laurel has a penchant for getting into these things. I'm going to need that. There was a rhyme. Sorry, I need the rhyming. Your last box. My last.

Couldn't you just give me jumbo shrimp first? I got that one. I knew the lumbar. First box. Your last box. Your last box. Oh my last box. Your last box. Oh, which would be a casket or a coffin? Okay.

So it either rhymes with cas- Was that your answer to the riddle? Yeah. Wrong. Okay. Second rhyming word riddle. The devil likes his blue. The devil likes his blue. The devil likes his blue.

Balls? Well, no, this is a rhyme to the second one that I didn't even get. So it doesn't matter. I do. It's a fine mess. A fine mess? Can you read everything again, just like a process? So, Rural has a penchant for getting it.

You remember, Lural and Hardy would hardly have built it. It's another fine mess you've gotten us into. Okay. It's fine mess and actually more on it Hardy would hardly be all right. It's another fine mess. You've gotten us into okay It's fine mess and actually more on the fine. It's a mess All right, if you look up boxy morons because I spent day. Oh, okay. All right, all right one of the top hits Okay, fair enough. Okay, good. All right. Your last box is a pine box pine box. That's close. I'm good fine Right devil likes his blue. That's a dress rhymes with mess. Oh, Deva a little blue dress. Yeah.

All right. I could sit here until I die. I would never have gotten it. No, no, no, no. It's funny, don't want you to answer your like, oh, it makes perfect sense. Right, but it's hard. It is.

That's why it's. It's like the end of family feud when people are like, oh, yeah, everybody in unison. And obese ballerina never has to worry about these. And obese ballerina never has to worry about these. Audience members, I, members I uh an obese ballerina. Now my mind goes to Fantasia with the with the hippo ballerinas the only example of overweight ballerinas I've ever seen. An obese ballerina.

What's the end of it? You want the rhyming riddle? No, give me the main one again, please. An obese ballerina never has to worry about these. All right, I'm going to need to go to the rhyming phase. It makes it so much easier. Let me tell you that. Gravity and age, a gravity and age caused tick condition. Saga.

Drupes. Sagi. Sagi. Okay. Rhymes with the first word in our oxymoron. Okay, baggy. Yes. Oh, that's, I got it. Baggy tights. Yes. Two points. Two points. Baggy tights. What's the original again? I know Beast Ballerina never asked to worry about these. She's never gonna have to worry about saggy. I mean, baggy tights. It's always gonna be tight. Yeah. Baggy tights. Got it. Why didn't I get

walked through mine like that? I was just scowled that and fucking he moved on This is easy. All right What was blue gray and red all over I got it. Me too. Wow. My wife's corpse after she fucks Joe DeRosa. I thought you were involved. I thought you were there. They fuck, and I had to go get them drinks. I came back. They were going at it. I blew my stack. Grey. It was the good dyslexia. What was blue, grey, and red all over? You want the rhyming? We're brittle?

Yeah. You're going to be a maddy of yourself when you hear this one. Yeah, it's pretty good. You got it. I got it. In a rough neighborhood, your neck should become one. This rhymes with our first oxymoron word.

I know. I know. You will definitely leave here like, you might not even say it to cue, but in your mind you'll be like, am I stupid? Like on your way home, you'll be like in your quieter moment,

you'll be like, why didn't I get that? Yeah, no, that's how I feel. Yeah. You always feel bad about yourself just 10 years ago. that? Yeah, no, that's how I feel. Yeah. You always feel bad about yourself. I'll just have to send you guys. I do not have. Yeah, I do not have.

We have decades of experience with the way his mind works. So we got a little bit of that. But it is kind of, you're going to, when you cure it, you're going to know it. And wait, what was it, the second clue? Sorry. In a rough neighborhood, your neck should become one.

Rhymes with our first word. What's blue, gray, and red, all over, and your neck should become one in a rough neighborhood. Two points online. Okay, last clue. Second word, rhyming riddle. I can slide, swing and revolve. What am I? Door. Okay, rhymes with our last. Remember the other one you didn't get? It rhymes with that. So let's flank. Do something that rhymes with the word. Yeah. And it was blue. No way man, it was blue gray and red all over. Yeah. You want a broken one, Q and brighter? Tell you what it was. I guess so, yeah.

Think of, kind of give me a hint. Sure. Guns and roses, guns and roses. It was a song, be a song. But that's not how the blue and the gray, I don't need no patient satisfaction. Custard. Civil war.

Yeah. Wait, what? What was blue, gray, and red all over? What was the two sides, one dressed in blue uniforms, one dressed in gray uniform? Oh, fuck. Yes. Oh, fuck. I never would have guessed that. Do you know what the red meat is? Blood.

Yeah. I know that was clever. It is, if you know about the Civil War, I didn't know what color the uniforms were. Really? No, no. I never would have, I would never would have remembered that. Never.

I thought they both were blue and great uniforms That's a beautiful blue and great mix together No points for Joe and no points awarded and may God have mercy You guys got that quick, man, yeah, Brian like I said, we got some history with this guy here. One must be really fake to achieve this One must be more really don't worry about rhyming it to achieve this, okay? All right You need a rhyme I don't know Thoughts and wheels can have this done.

Rhymes with our first word. Turn? No. Of course not. Second rhyming word. No. Done. You can't keep taking guesses.

It's impossible to crash if you have one. It's impossible to crash if you have one. It makes the fucking third clue is not helpful because you're trying to rhyme with a clue that you already couldn't get. But if you get riddle though, you know it rhymes with the word. Do you hear the riddle again? It's impossible to crash if you have one. That was the riddle or that was the last. There's a sick riddle to it's fucking sickest riddle we got. There's a sick riddle. It's so good.

I fucking just like I'm beaming when I came up with the riddle. Yeah, crash if you have it's impossible to crash if you have one. All right, you don't know. I don't know. Answer that riddle. Let sickness and invitation that's impossible to oh you know I was very good I was always thinking of cars lots and wheels can have this done a line arrives with a line and invitation. And it's, you must be really fake to achieve this. It rhymes with a line and invitation. It's genuine invitation.

Genuine invitation? That's the answer. That's the answer. Genuine is an oxymoron with Is that a commonly used phrase genuine imitation? Yeah Except around this fucking office where you guys are fucking yuking it up Here's some of the other Here's the shit I get this worse than dyslexia. I got a I got a thing from the from the bar I got to look I'm not looking at my phone to be an asshole. I got to make sure there's nothing on fire right now. Oh no one in asshole

Something's on fire Okay, everything's good. No, they were saying the register wasn't turning on but apparently it's fine now It's fucking great. Jesus Christ. Oh, in the business. All right, so this is I mean I could I hear The problem is right here's the problem too, is that there's, there's, there's, there's too many layers to the game, because like, because even the oxymoron themselves, like, like, genuine imitating, I've never heard that phrase. So it's, it's, it's like, you're now you're trying to, you're trying to guess

an answer, your head is going in the place of going, you know, what's a popular phrase that would make sense as an answer to this. If you're not thinking in that way, you would never think genuine imitation as an answer. What's your excuse for civil war? Well, no, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. But, uh, a jumbo shrimp is a good one. What was the other one though? What was the other one?

Oh, that was a good one. Alright, there's that one. Let me see if I can take this. I'm fucking holding steady at zero. Yeah, well right now we're tied. Your overall two word riddledle when leisure time turns laborious when leisure time turns laborious

When leisure time I even want to say I think I know because I need going to be like what is that? That'll be wrong leisure time to late laborus gonna be like, what is it man? That'll be wrong. Reasier time turn labor, laborists. It's a riddle. And plus, like the fact that it's always two words, I thought would make it even just lead you to the answer so clearly, so direct. That's not like dirty work.

No. Okay. When leisure time turns Jane dangerous laborers laborers. Your first rhyming. Yeah. A booty pop in activity. A booty twerk. And an I and G. Yes. First word rhymes with twerking. Okay, working. Yes. And then what's the clue yet so working when leisure time turns laborious Like a working lunch Here we go second rhyming word riddle less dollars in your wallet are a sure sign This could be a game show on TV. Yeah, if you want all the contestants fucking going home losers,

none of the audience enjoying it. Yeah, Jeffrey, like a certain contestant has to be have a certain intellect. Yeah, I think this will like, if we go to the big, you know, the Ivy League schools, right? Just a picture with the three of us for the next over us. Yeah. Not you.

I think you get some of the high honors to play this. I think you should see a lot better. I was not good at riddles. They're hard. Yeah. I can't believe. I think I got cues.

Yeah, I think I know. Yeah, I'm shocked that he doesn't have it. Could be the beer. Yeah, I might be. What's the chef's half beer? Less dollars in your wallet or a sure sign. Go ahead, Brian. Working vacation. That's an oxymoron. I'm working. Working vacation. Yeah, but what was the dollar, the wallet thing?

Inflation. Oh, jeez. All right. It's a tie. I gotta go a tiebreaker. All right. I don't wanna play. So far I've gotten too reared to work. I'm fine.

It's a heavy game. It's heavy. Yeah, like I said, like, I'm coming up with it with people who are working on it with me who are like super like their doctors and physicists who are helping me, you know What do you do to find the game? He's a teacher. So I guess you're kind of right? Well, he's not helped me make this game really those top. Are you gonna try to sell it? Yeah? Will you I'm not being a smart ass will you if they Are you gonna try to sell it? Yeah. Well, you, I'm not being the smartest. Well, you, if they say you got to change the name,

will you? I'm not as married to this name, as I was at the selects here. Yeah. Because it has, it already has a following. It already has, it's been, we've been playing it for years. So I feel to like, introduce it to the market

without the name that our listeners are familiar with. It would be a big full-paw. Right. Yeah. But this one, I mean, if they were to go on every listener to watch, bring us ratings. Throw a bucket of money at me. That we want to change the name. This one, I would change it though. Okay. Yeah. I got you. I like Rai Mooran. No, it's confusing. It combines rhyming, which we have to play.

He doesn't have a lot of faith in your intelligence at this point. No, no, no, no. You guys brought me a dummy. He does this to us all the time. How many games have you created? Countless. Yeah, countless. Still looking for that one that like really fucking breaks though, and then I don't you know You don't have to do this anymore. I think

Fair enough Fair enough. I think it's well designed. I actually it's just I'm not I'm not like sure I did my brain does not work with this. Yeah, there's there's certain people who love to solve riddles I'm not one either. Yeah, but like there's there's certain people who love to solve riddles. I'm not one either. Yeah. But like, there's a lot of people out there who love riddles. So I thought it would cater to the riddle market and the car game market as you know.

The untapped riddle market. The riddle market. Yeah. Now, kids want to hear riddles all the time. Well, this is not a game for kids because you get to want to know what this is too. Oh yeah. Like after hours to be sure.

Or like a party game for adults. I got you. I got you. All right. They're adult oxymorons though. And like clean sex. Yeah, I guess. Why sex dirty?

Dirty? Of course you. Well, if you're doing it right. LAUGHTER if you're doing it right. Do you think Joe, you're professional comedian? Do you think that this is a good joke or an indecisurable joke? My friend Ming, who's Chinese, gave my wife a podcast recorder. And I said, what would you do if you opened it up?

And it was just stuffed with Chinese garbage and candy wrappers. Okay. That's the joke. Now, when I was a kid in the 70s, you would cut a baseball open. And that's what was inside baseball. It was Chinese junk garbage.

Candy wrappers, that kind of stuff. It was all Asian for some reason. She didn't get the job. I didn't get it either. You didn't get any other cause you're too young. You're all too young, you kids. I didn't get it. Well, I got it though.

Anything that was funny. It's not funny. I'm not, that's not my claim, but you got it. You at least understood it. Yeah. Because I got a problem. I sit there, I'm in like,

I have an endearing trait where like we watch TV shows and I'll make up dialogue as instead of the lines in the show. Are you doing a year riffin? Yeah. Riffin. A little bit of impromptu. Yep. And so, we're watching Little House on the Prairie.

I'm sorry to bring it around to this again, but we're watching Little House on the Prairie and Laura, are you familiar with the show? No. I mean, I know it. I know of it, but I can never Anyway, there's a there's a young girl Laura Ingalls. She's the main character, but she's like she's in her twenties at this point She's um she's an adult. She has a kid. She has a husband and there's an old lady in town with no relatives And she wants Laura to have her house, which is extremely nice It's like Manchin asked they eventually turn into a rooming house and shit.

And the old lady's dying and she's like, she's in bed, Laura's like standing over and she's telling her, the old lady's telling her like, I want you to have this house. And the other Laura's like, well, I ask man, leave her husband. She comes back later on and she's lived,

the woman's like on her deathbed and she's like, what did he say? And I said, he doesn't like the house. He wants bulldoze it and turn it into a pigstie. Right? So, the woman's left little woman's last wish. She wants her to have the house. I think it's funny to tell a woman who's literally literally breathing her last breath that the house she just gave away is going to get knocked down and turn it into a pigstie.

To me, that's funny. Yeah, I get it. No reaction whatsoever. None. Right. how she just gave away is gonna get knocked down and turned into a pink style. To me, that's funny. Yeah, I get it. No reaction whatsoever. None. All she cares about is the fucking computer and fucking Neopets. Do you know if you're familiar with Neopets?

It's some video game that she played when she was 10 and is still obsessed with it. And she's like, oh, look at this. I traded for this fucking thing. Oh, check it out, man. I'm gonna fucking, I'm gonna create this kind of creature. You've married your mother. Oh, you fucking out, man. I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna create this kind of creature. You've married your mother. Oh Fucking are so right. You're so right. Yeah, sleeping with your mother

If I know my mother was this good at it, I was starting it a long time ago So so she I throw out shit right and left and I look for approval and she doesn't give it to me Here did your mother. I know yeah my mother was only a year cynical. You're so fun. Yeah, and I grew to you're really my show Yeah, Brian. Yeah, you're doing a my neo-penetra game. You feel this is assessment Yeah, it's doing it in my neopads game. How does it make you feel this is assessment? Yeah, it's accurate, right? Your Pam? Your Pam, kind of. She has, she's like, oh, you, she's like,

you're a little bit, she's like, she's older, like my wife is older than me. It doesn't look like it, but in terms of like energy, and youthfulness and that kind of thing, like she's definitely older than me. She's setting her old lady waves. And she does. She shares like several things with Pam, like corny jokes and shit. She loves puns. Like get away from me with puns. Yeah. Who doesn't

love puns? It's too much. The impractical joggers game is filled with delightful puns on this, on your local target.. Get in there. I'm not a big fan of puns either. Yeah, I don't care for puns. I should just keep puns. And you're investing in Rhymoron? I don't think so. I don't think so only because I...

How would you feel if you went to your joint business investors and they were like, I don't think so, Joe. You think that would just happen? That's true. That's true. No,, I was like, I don't think so, Joe. You think that would just happen? That's true. No, I swear to God, if I was good at it, I would be the thing I would think about. But if the give the fact I'm not good at, it makes me feel like I have no gauge of how it would do.

I just think of a colorful box, colorful cards. You know, we need to get, we need some startup costs. Right. To get a prototype made. Right. Yes, you do. You definitely do. You're not good at something. It's like saying, do you want to invest in my fish restaurant? You go, I hate seafood. So it's like, how could you invest in something that you don't understand? Even if it's like, I understand the potential.

I think I do, but I'm not smart enough to know how smart you have to be to play this game. That's my biggest problem, you know? But I'm terrible at riddles. Like I get like anxiety in the, whenever I watch the hobbit, when he is the golem thing, when him and golem do the riddles, definitely gives me like anxiety in the whenever I watch the Hobbit when he is the golem thing when him and golem do the riddles definitely gives me like anxiety that's how bad it riddles I am yeah I'm like are you prone to anxiety in other respects yes yes

but when I'm just to a dare just hop it's I'm gonna speak with you every single day just talk about you read you read Stephen King you read last Stephen King right? Uh, DC. Oh I breached you to read dark tower That's too much for A little subtle plot. Yeah, you're anxiety, which is it on scale one to ten What's up your anxiety? In general or with with the hobbit? No, well So that's the same in general every day. It's a it's a thing I've had to, I mean, I don't have panic attacks I have, but it's

a full on, it's a thing I have to deal with. I have to, I was telling Q and the way down here, we had a situation like I can't get into it, but we had a situation, something related to this bar sandwich shop. I opened, I was my business partner last night at a concert, and something came up that we needed to address, but we weren't able to address it in that moment. And my partner had to be like, we're at a concert. You can't fix this right now, enjoy yourself. We'll take care of it afterwards.

And he was right. And help. Yes, but I like, like, that's something I have to actively tell myself. Yeah, I'm the same way. I was literally like, I'm leaving right now. He's like, what are you doing? You can't, you know? So you know what, it's you're the same way. That's right, we could worry.

I mean, we could, I would take notes if you wanted to, like buy in on this and like suggestions and. To really try to get the rose to leave you're a little lighter in the world. if you wanted to buy in on this and suggestions. And... To really try to get the rose to leave your little lighter in the water. All right. I know. We need inflation riddles in there and everything.

Is this where you're going to do it the guess? Try to get them to... You know, who I really want to get to play. You obviously would like to play. You know guys would a lot more money than me. Why don't you get Silent Jay into the to their chat chat and sell the bomb it on this. They don't have they don't have startup money. That's fucking Randall and don't tell you about this. They got some cash man. It is trying

to procure a Buzz Aldrin. I want to get an astronaut in here to play this, because I like that. These are your follow ups. Buzz Aldrin, Elon Musk, who is the other one? Who is the third? Tom Brady. And then the devil's right or go. These are, are you trying to get Elon Musk in here? Yeah.

Do you think, is there a chance you're going to get Elon Musk in here? I don't know. I was like, no, that's real. We have these conversations. We record them. We put them out. Buzz Aldrin is on a lot of hot people's shake their heads.

We like things on. Yeah. It's pretty much it. Buzz Aldrin does a lot of hot stuff. Does a lot of podcasts. So I wonder if he would be willing to play oxymoron. All right. And because I would look, like, because I I would imagine like he's got to be sharp

as a tack to be a master. Not. Well, he's about 90 now, isn't he? Yeah. So I don't think I think that I don't know if you. Why don't you get up with him, but he married like a 70 year old. You're so fucking hot. Why don't you get, but you but there's so many colleges in Jersey,

where I'd get some like, Dean's List Kids from Rutgers or something to come in and play it. Because I don't think they'll be able to buy in, like Buzz Alderman might have the, he's got moon money. Oh, you want investors, I think you're insane. And it was like a put his face on the box.

Doug, nothing to like the market of fire. Like the crib keep your own box. Yeah, holding a moon rock. Yeah. I don't think that's a good idea. No. No.

No, putting his buzz Aldrin on the box. It's American Hero. Yeah, because it's like everybody. You think that's a good idea? No. No, it's like, no, it's like everybody. You think that's a good idea? No, it's like knows an astronaut is fucking. But they're not going to know he's an astronaut. They're going to go who's this whole band of his boss. The masters buzz all dreams of one of the men who walked on the moon presents. That's a lot of wording. That's a lot of wording. Yeah. That's a lot of wording. You need a younger, a younger, more relevant intellectual.

All right. All right. That's good. That's good. I'm telling you. Yeah. Like that, Neil Tyson, the grass guy. Yeah.

Yes. That's you need. You need Neil DeGrasse Tyson. From what I hear, he only wants to do is fucking debunk flat earth. Or is he's not really interested in anything. I don't think he wants to be challenged on camera. Especially not. That's kind of shit. That's not gonna be challenged on camera. Especially not, this kind of shit. That's gonna be challenging,

you're asking everyone to put his name on the gate. This is your two different things. You're zigzagging all over the place. You gotta separate these lanes. You get the underground Tyson on this, or get Bill Nye, like somebody like that. Okay. That's you if you want a face for your gate.

Right this down, Rob. Yeah. That's that's it. Is you want a face for your right this that rope Yeah, that's that's it's a really disgraced that we could like It used to be smart and no Like a canceled scientist or something that we can give like we can use like they've been trying it I mean a disgraced scientist Yeah, somebody the other guy session, like kind of got in trouble, but then it went away.

I really looked at the facts and kind of like, what? Yeah, I'm saying his name got tossed in during me too, but it was all very, it's- He rebounded. Yeah, it didn't seem, it didn't, you know. But I'm sure I think of somebody that actually. Man.

There's not many, you know what, it doesn't get- Oh, yes Charlie Charlie Rose Charlie Rose is he still alive? He's a little bit of a man on YouTube. Yeah, but I feel like Charlie Rose is a guy that got canceled who's in the ilk of like the intellectual Yeah, but he's not as old as like that. Don't you run into the same problem? You want to just because he's got some fucking man. I mean, I mean, Lower.

He's a nice man. He's a nice guy. That's who? A nice guy. Give him a smart hair dude. Give him a break over. Or get like, get like, get up from the box.

Like a George Ticay. Like at like, like somebody from a nerdy, like Star Trek or like, you know, Picard or somebody like that. You know, that is great. T'Kai's getting canceled, man. He's been grabbing Cox and all kinds of stuff. Oh, great, that's what he's,

he wants to just say, like he needs a, he needs a gig. And that's an edge. We can get him for cheap. Right. He's grabbing Cox, that's cancelable, he's in. That's cancelable, yeah. I gotta go, guys, I apologize. Yeah, I don't blame you. No, no, no, I'm having a great time. Right. He's grabbing cocks. That's cancelable. He's there. That's cancelable.

Yeah. I got to go guys. I apologize. Yeah. I don't believe you. No, no, no. I don't remember every time. It's one thirty two though.

By the time we walk out of here, get in the car all that. All right. Let me let me read some stuff real fast. Uh, first is for Ming Chen. Actually, uh, Cap City Comic Con dot com. Go there. You'll see tickets to $250. I've dinner with Ming on July 1st and Lancing michigan and you may shake your head to that

you may shake your head to that but he sold three tickets already really yeah one to his wife and two to his kids who's ming chan? oh wait i know i can't stop it i think your fakes are fakes i thought your compliment fan is she one of the comic book man? You're no fan. You're no big fan. He was guy retortured. He was a little Asian guy.

Oh, okay. I forgot. I was going to hold the air six years. You never forget, mate. I just want to have the same power of, like, let's say. I knew you wouldn't have fucking made it, right? I'd like to say a little house on the credit card. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I just want to have the staying power of like let's say I knew you What I fucking like say a little house on the I I knew you when I met you. I don't remember. Yeah, no, maybe I'm not maybe didn't watch as much as I thought I did I'm a little I fell a little I got my face But I remember I remember you two guys. Let's talk about it. Oxy moron Yeah off off my fair enough. All right. All right. So these are Joderosis plugs. Yes. April 20th for 20 Hitler's birthday. Thursday April 20th 730 and 10 in Cleveland, Ohio have done laps. Yes. Columbus, Ohio check this shit out Friday and Saturday night. April 21st and 22nd 730 and 930 shows. Yes. And then Baltimore Maryland.

Well, those are in a different venue though too. Through the, you know, one's Columbus. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The attic Columbus. Yeah, you don't even have to say the venues. You can just say that cities Baltimore Maryland. Yeah, the 28th Saturday the 29th.

Yeah, 30 and wait, different time shows. But you know, that's okay. Just go online, check it out. New York, the cream theater on Wednesday, May time shows. But, you know, that's okay. Just go online, check it out. New York, the Crane Theater on Wednesday, May 3rd. Yes. That's right. So you show, it's awesome. Just announced Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, May 4th and 5th.

Yes. And then the one I'm going to, if you want to come and hang out, I'll be there. 100% September 16th of an L New Jersey. All right. Yeah, tickets are at jodarozaomity.com. I also already plugged Joey roses. Thank you, but I also want to plug Sal and I have two podcasts. We'll see you and help me in Pat Walsh. We review movies and stuff like that. Stuff that fans in this show would probably be

into I would think. Check it out. New episodes are Patreon only, but patreon.com slash WSYIH podcast. And then, Sal and I have taste buds every Monday on YouTube, and we're doing our first ever live show, May 10th. We're doing a full-on-live stream, special guests, a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Stay tuned for tickets, and there's going to be a live audience too. I was wondering. State, not Buzz Aldrin. State, too, for tickets, and there's going to be a live audience, too. We're about to announce the venue. So if you're in New York, you can actually come to the live show itself and just stream

it. And blah, blah, blah. So here you go. All right. And I can highly recommend. I'm not just saying this. Obviously, I like the guy. He's my friend.

He's here. But Joe DeRosa is literally one of my favorite comedians. He has a dark edge that I really enjoy Thanks, but you don't see that as much anymore. You don't see it as much anymore I watch Chris Rock Specialist night. I was like this shit's fucking boring It's boring. There's some good there are some great jokes But yeah, it's a couple good moments, but it's an hour and I'm like this shit is just boring to me I don't want to hear how fucking rich you are and how well your fucking kids are are off

Yeah, I don't care about it. It's like fucking 20 minutes of that shit. I don't care. Well, I appreciate jokes Thank you that you liked my carbon love it. I love it. Thank you, man. Thank you Yeah, Marlon. We got this guy back to Thank you. Thanks for coming in dude anytime our new Error I had a great time. I love this man. You guys are the best. I love you guys And I look forward to our new friendship. Thank you. Yeah, just start texting about that kind of show.

It's a show, I'll trust you on that one. It's gonna be 15 years before he was like, all right, you're a friend. All right.