Tell Em Steve-Dave - #630: Red Wings

Episode Date: March 16, 2025

Q loses his party animal image, King Charles’ playlist, Walt the roadie, tv show romance, piggy art, musings on mortality.

See, the old cue would have been out trying to find Lady Gaga to party with. Yeah, I know. I'm still jet setting, you know, high flying. Teddy's getting a haircut right now. Oh yeah? All right, let's see if you can talk about that a little bit. Tell'em Steve, Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell'em Steve, Dave.

Walt, your eyes are bugging out of your head. What's going on? I'm getting ready. Yeah? You're all psyched up? I'm getting all, I'm getting ready. You get my game face on. Yeah.

All right. I put some smelling salts under my nose while I was in the bathroom. I'm fucking all, I'm getting ready. He's getting my game face on. Yeah. All right. I put some smelling salts under my nose while I was in the bathroom. I'm fucking amped. Yeah. Ready to go? Nice. No get them this week. He didn't put out a mic for himself.

He said nobody wants to hear from him. Wow. I don't know if that's true, but we'll see. We'll see if there's an outpouring of- On Reddit, yeah. Like, where's get them? We want him back. Oh boy.

And Q. Yes. Back from last week. I got a spy report. Q was running around with the likes of Adam Ray. I was in Toronto, yeah, for- Is that where you went? Yeah.

Very warmly received by the Canadians. No issues whatsoever. Who's Adam Wright? He is a stand-up comedian, entertainer, buddy of mine. Is he Canadian? He is not, but he does this great act as Dr. Phil. Remember Dr. Phil, right? Yeah. So he does an imitation of Dr. Phil and does live shows in character as Dr. Phil, and it

has taken off. It's hysterical. People love it. It's so fucking funny. And it's getting hotter and hotter, and he tours now, and he needs guests for every show, and he texts me and asks if I would fly to Toronto to sit in with him. I was like, sure, I'll do it.

Had a blast. Yeah, good time. Oh, it was great. Harlan Williams was there. You don't remember Harlan Williams? Their name is- He's got a podcast now called Harlan the Highway, but he was in Half Baked. Remember Half Baked? Yeah, yeah. He's the skinny white guy. He's the guy, you know, something about Mary. Six minute abs, seven minutes. He's got a podcast that's so fucking funny. It's great. So he was on the show too, so I got to meet him. So I was pretty excited.

Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of running around. Who spied on me? I got spies out there everywhere. In an inner circle spy, I heard. Really?

Yeah. Really? That's what you heard? That's how I knew where Q was? I didn't even tell anybody where I was going. Has to be somebody in the inner circle then, giving Brian updates on cues. Information. Who would it be?

Viable information. What was your thinking about it? Well, I had a good time. He slipped in one of those AirPods in your... Oh, so attached. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good week. Back to work, back to shooting, you know? What'd you do in Toronto? I just, oh no, I was there for like, I had like 12 hours to spare, so it was like literally an in and out situation. I didn't do anything. A 12 hours isn't enough time to see the- That's a long time. Well you gotta sleep for six of them. You gotta do the show for three of them.

The BQI knew fucking you didn't need to sleep. You gotta drive from the airport and that takes an hour. It wasn't so full of excuses as to why he wasn't partying. Did you party at all afterwards? Zero partying. Zero? Zero partying. I was in bed by midnight. Because it was also the time change.

I was losing an hour's sleep. And then I had an 8 a.m. flight because I had to get back. I only had that small window. So it was a lot. I would have loved to party. Gone to the breast rail. I knew. I feared this day would come.

And I'm sure a lot of listeners now are – it's very sad to hear this kind of like dancing that he's doing because he's not the same cue that he was. You're not seeing it in the forest or the trees. He's days away from 49. I hopped on an international flight to go fuck around. I had drinks at the theater. It's your national unicorn. Just because. International, my the time that the type and change

You know, it doesn't matter when you got there. It was still the same time as it was in Staten Island. So it's Cuba What do you want? Is it Cuba? Okay, but my point is like, you know, I'm still check that Do something I'm still jet setting, you know, high flying. You didn't have jet lag. It sounds like you might have. I mean, you are, you're only days away from 49. It's okay, but it's still, it's okay, but it's still a little sad.

It's like, man, it's like. I don't think that that's the right handle. You know, Tom Brady, when he threw threw that last pass everybody kind of knew it. I knew it. It was time. What am I giving up exactly? What is the time for? The mad persona.

The wild man. The one you guys started and perpetrated all these years. Oh no, you rolled right into it. You loved every moment of it. I got my tooth knocked out in Germany. It never happened to me once. Got a hole burned in my pants down in Nashville. I mean, yeah, when you went on these international flights in the past, you were getting teeth

knocked out. You were in ballroom. Was it like brawl room? Oh, ballroom. Oh, the cotillions. Yeah, the cotillions, yeah. Now you're just like, I went to bed. I had to, man. You know, I'm also very tired. Father time remains undefeated. No argument there. Zero losses. Zero losses.

A goat. He's the ultimate goat, man. Take him on, name him. He got him. Not us. Not yet. Not today. Not today.

We lived a pod one week. We lived a pod one week. We lived a pod one week. We lived a pod one week. We lived a pod one week. We lived a pod one week. We lived a pod Not today. We lived a pod one more day. So you guys did an episode last week? We did one, yeah, with Sunday Jeff. How'd it go? Went well.

Good. Yeah. Sunday. Zero controversy? We're back? We're, uh, I feel- If we did a pod, there's controversy. All right, all right.

I feel like kind of, um- People like, they listen, they got us. They got us. They got us. They got us. They got us. They got us. They got us. They got us. They got us. They got us. They got us. We're back. We're, uh, I feel- If we did a pod, there's controversy. All right, all right.

I feel like kind of, um- People like, they listen, they got us. What do you mean? Like they're pleased with the content. I think so. Yeah, correct. You know, we announced the Tim pod. It's up for sale.

Oh, excellent. Okay, and that is a great one. Yeah, I feel that when it hits the, all the, crosses all the T's, dots all the I's of what you're looking for in a TSD episode. And it's up now available on Bandcamp. Thank you to all those. And there were plenty of you who came out and

support the pod and I talked to Tim and he is very appreciative and he's trying to figure a way out to show that appreciation to the ants. He says he's, he's trying to figure a way out to show that appreciation to the ants. He says he's trying to come up with an idea to just let everyone know how touched he is with the turnout and the response. Oh, wow, man. Yeah, just go to band camp and put in Tim the Record Store Clerk, right?

And it should pop right up. Yeah, TESD benefit Tim the record store clerk. Over 90 minutes of TSD content and some good laughs, some good games and I think it'll be $4.99 well spent. Well spent going towards to help all the proceeds 100% going towards Tim's care in this fight he's in now. Yeah, it's a great episode. I remember we recorded it after a regular episode one day. And I remember the regular episode being like, all right, not every week's a home run.

And then we started that. Why is that? Why can't we hit home runs every time like Barry Bonds? We can. Like, how can we aren't? Oh, I don't know. All the time. Can we blame it on other times?

Sure can. Yeah, why not? Us, the audience, everything. We are. I don't know. All the time. Can we blame it on Father Time? Sure can. Yeah. Why not? Us, the audience, everything. But I remember we did the Tim one and we had such a fucking blast. I was driving home and I was like, I wish the Tim one was a regular one. It was so much fun.

Yeah. It's a great episode. I think people will like it. Sometimes when the episodes are structured, they come out a little bit. Yeah. When they will like it. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes when the episodes are structured, they come out there a little bit. Yeah. When they have a point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right.

How many points today are we just? I got some points, but they're not good ones. I'm hoping that Teddy had a big weekend. Teddy's getting a haircut right now. Oh, yeah? All right. Let's see you talk about that a little bit. Somebody on on on set today was talking about King Charles the released a playlist Really of his favorite songs. Did you hear about the prince?

I mean the King of Britain did a DJ on Spotify and And just DJ'd his favorite songs like spoken between him and stuff like that. And do you know the no? I was like that might be a fun game. I was like that might be a fun game if we all try to guess Yeah, what's on it? How old is King Charles at this point? I don't I this is I'm at the end of my King Charles used to be used to know so much about Brit fucking pop culture He's gotta be in his late 70s, right? His mom was like a lot of can say a lot of Beatles. That's what I thought.

Beatles, right? Rolling Stone. Yeah. Oh, don't put it up. We should guess. He's 76. Really? Yep.

He's gonna be my dad. You know he's gonna have to put some current things on there because he wants to remain hip. He's gonna, that's a great point. He's gonna want to remain hip. He's going to, he's going to, that's a great point. He's going to want to remain happy. He's going to want to put international flavors on there. All right. Well, Brian's going over his. I'll try to remember some of the, no, no, some of your points that you want to get

out before we get to Prince Charles or King Charles. This one's musical about Jean, Jean Simmons being absolutely pathetic. He's kiss front man. Jean Simmons is charging $12,000 to be his personal assistant for one day. Wait what? I have to pay him to be his personal assistant? You gotta pay him to work for him. Now there are certain...

When does it end with this guy? Never. That's why when I saw this I was like, you gotta be fucking kidding me with this dude. How do you need 12 grand at this point? Because it's only one person, you're right. It's not like, hey, I'm taking 10 of you or 20 of you. It's one person. He's got to spend the day with a stranger? Yep. Not only does he have to spend the day with a stranger, not only will the lucky fan

do manual labor like help setting up the band show, but they will sit in on the soundcheck, arrive at the venue with the band and hang out backstage. That's pretty cool though. That's pretty cool. Sure. I'm sure he's not going to get really treated like a roadie. You know that's just like, it's like be quote unquote, treat it like a roadie, but I'm sure he'll be treated very, very well. I'm curious though.

Yeah, your brother, right? Okay. So he also promises for the hefty price tag of 12,500, it will be enough for the big spender to have a meal with the rocker either at a hotel or backstage at the show and be brought up on the stage during the concert and introduced to the crowd. What show? Kiss? Gene's doing solo. He's a solo artist now. Of course. How old is he?

He's in his seventies. He's 70. Yeah. He's 75, I think. Wow. So Prince Charles is older than Gene? 75. Yeah. He's younger. 74, right? No, he's 70. Yeah, 75. Yeah. He's younger. 74. Right? No, so 70. Yeah. 74. Yeah. He's younger than Prince Charles looks rough. He's cancer. Gene still looks like a fucking demon. Well, that's the face paint. Yeah, here it is. He's still good.

He. Yeah. How could he be doing this? How? Why? You don't need an extra $12,500? Look, I'm not fucking 76 and a billionaire. You know what I'm saying? What point does that end? What point does it end? Maybe he's not a billionaire. Maybe some bad investments.

True. Market has been tanking lately. Maybe some poor business decisions. Yeah. Gene doesn't seem like that type. What, that he won't make any mistakes? He'll make some mistakes, but not like major ones, I don't think.

I think Gene's very, he seems very careful with his money. I case a point, I give you the elder. Okay. Did they pay for that? Well, that was their decision. They decided to release it, and it was a complete nutter flop. Yeah, that's true.

I give you another one. Burn bitch burn. He put that on a fuck of wax. Oh boy. All right. So maybe he does make mistakes here and there. I don't begrudge him touring. I get it.

Like that, stay alive, man. Perform. Like love life. Go for it. It's a sponging of that 12 grand, which after taxes and after all the other fees that come out, it's like a few thousand dollars. A couple thousand bucks to do it. When is Gene like, maybe I don't need to take people's money?

When he can just have a regular old contest and be like, hey, you want to win a chance to be my roadie for the day? It's no purchase necessary type thing Yeah, after something like who has twelve thousand five hundred to blow on fucking being jeans ass boy for the day Yeah, but I guess the the counter argument is like look it's not for everybody It's for people who have twelve thousand dollars who want to spend it on them like You know, what are you gonna do? Just go to lowest common down? But but he but I just don't understand why he even has it in him to think about this anymore.

That's what's interesting. Not saying anything is wrong. I just don't get it. I don't get it. Okay, so it's not just one person. It's one assistant experience per venue from April 3rd to August 3rd with over 20 shows. So now he's making more than $12,000. Is he in New Jersey?

I'm going to do it. You're going to do it? Yeah. I'm going to do it. You're going to do it? Yeah. I'm going to use TSD money to have to do it. And then I'll record it. Well, you got to bring Get Him too. So now it's $24,000. Now it's $25,000?

No, you'll have to bring one person. Can you imagine Get Him fucking trying to limp around, trying to move fucking Marshall fucking amps and shit? Gene's like, Get Him, dinner is over. Holy shit, May 5th at the basey. Oh my God. Oh man. Oh, you got to do it. Twelve grand.

Well, you went and get him. That's only six each. Oh wow. Look into it, get him. See how – what we have to do to sign up to become jeans personal roadies You may bring four items for Jean to sign All right, I can make money back on that sure can you sure can? You're allowed to take as many pictures as you want

Man, it's I've again the t-shirt and a hat of laminate kind of hard on him at first But I think it's a high price, but like it's up for the person to decide to pay it. Has anybody bought the Basie one? Get them. Can you look into it? I'm real, I'm serious. We can make content out of it.

We need it. You know, Teddy's not gonna get a bath next week. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I mean, we need something. This is crazy. Yeah, that's just the article. See about how we can sign up for Git them and- Limited number of experiences. Hey man, I guess go for it. We stopped doing- Inquire for and payment plans.

Oh, that's the worst. If you have to go on a payment plan to be as roadie. Yeah, you shouldn't have to. I think most people might have to though. Yeah. I'm interested now, get him. I'm serious. I'm not fooling. Me and you will be fucking, I'll like white jeans, brow, you do all the grunt work though. Yeah, look like his ass. Jeans like, oh. Come here, get him.

Think he'll remember me from Conflict Men? That I doubt. I doubt. He's met so many people. I would not feel slighted if he didn't remember. He has literally met millions of people, probably since that filming of that. Since that, yeah. Since the filming of that episode of Conflict Men.

So I don't think I could be upset if he didn't remember though. But all right, let's see what we can do about that cue. Alright, nice. It sounds like it'll be fun. Well, if we could film, can we film it, Brian? I don't know. Maybe we could turn it into a Patreon episode. Yeah, there you go. You are allowed to take as many photos as you want, it says.

We could do like a flip book. Throughout your entire experience, you can bring one guest, like you say, four four items for him to sign and you get a Gene Simmons rehearsal used bass whoa I get a bass you're gonna get a bass guitar well for your new music career that's the one of the four things I want him to sign in well that's weird though because he says they won't sign instruments or parts probably the bass he's giving you though he would probably so would got I could flip that I think for least A G I would think yeah, and that's down to only 11,000 You gotta get pictures of

Of all this shit so everybody knows it's legit Does what look good? I'm in the middle of a podcasting. You're asking me questions about emails were sent out? I thought it was an issue with the Tim pod that somebody needed help with it. But what do you need his perfect that's what that is a one-sentence email he needed you to double check that has anybody booked this yet. He was I guess asking should they drop my name as if my name means anything to Gene Simmons or his people. We've played the Count Basie though.

I mean sure it was even longer than Kiss. Right, but this is a man who want – he doesn't care who he's getting the 12 G's from. He does not care if – at all who it is. All he cares about is the money. That's all that matters. You should have just put I have the money. That's all that matters. You should have just put, I have the money. Yeah. Go for it, Gene. It's once in a lifetime opportunity, right? Get that bag. Make it. Yeah, it's like we stopped doing meet and greets because I was

just uncomfortable with them. I felt I'm like, I can't take people's money to say hello to me. I just – and then I actually – I'm like, I can't take people's money to say hello to me. And then I actually later on think I fucked up because then people were like, we loved it. It was so much fun. Like it was fun and I don't know. I understand. Yeah, I can understand that awkwardness of. I need to see my psychologist.

Yeah, I got to make that quick. Oh, Queen Jill's playlist. All right. Well, is that all you had, bro? Do you think? No, no, I got tons of other stuff. I think you're still going to Queen Carol. No, I'm not pushing for this. He's pushing for this. I'm not pushing for this. I'm not pushing for this. I, Queen Giles playlist. All right. Well, is that all you had brought?

Do you think? No, no, I got tons of other stuff. I'm not pushing for this. He pulled it up on the screen. Who do you, who's so, I'm going to say Elton John. He's got to be. Let's see if we can get one. Okay. I say Elton John. Oh, absolutely. Oh my God. He was a favorite of princess die. Right. He wrote that candle in the wind song for her. her I mean he might not like them because of he had some bad blood between them. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't not a bad I think those what about those girls those those spice girls. Yeah those girls about just spice girls songs on there I don't know. I could see where you're coming from. I only like them if they're English I only like them if they're English. David Bowie. Elton John.

There's a Bowie song on there. I think there's a Bowie on there. There's a Beatles song on there. There's a Stones song on there. I'm trying to think of one that's not right. What would be Led Zepp? Is Led Zepp too hard for the king? Oh, absolutely.

Yeah? Yeah. He looks like a real fucking stick in the mud. Stodgy. Oh yeah. He's got a stick firmly planted up that fucking anus. Wow. A scepter. He's got a scepter. Yeah. Well, it seemed like the queen was that way too. Like, and if that's her son, it's like,

no fun allowed. What is it like? It seemed he's very stodgy. Like how, what is it like to be that human? Like, I never even considered life from his perspective before. Like carrying yourself in a certain way all the time. Knowing no other way. Who are you going to, I'm sorry, who do you got? Give me your top five that you think is on you. Do you want Elton? Give that to Bry. Give that to Bry. Okay. The Beatles are going to be on there. I think that's a no brainer, right? He can't. No, no, take Beatles. I've

taken... I got Rolling Stones. Okay, you did say that. I got Rolling Stones. Does he put Pink Floyd? No, no, no, that's that's drug music. Right? Well, that is all that. No, but Pink Floyd specifically wants to show he's cool. You know how he's going to show his cool Hendrix Hendrix, huh? He's got he's got to have Bob Marley. He needs international flavor. Why do you think that though? I think he feels he needs to represent as much as he can. I mean, there's a picture of him banging on a tom tom with a bunch of African guys or Rastafarian guys.

He's in Jamaica playing drums. It's like, there you go. I should even say the spice girls. Spice girls. All right. That's my second one. I'm going to say the who I'm going to go out there. I'm going to say Michael Jackson.

No, I called it mine. Let me throw this at you. Let me throw a Bruce Springsteen at you. Not a chance. Show love for America. You're gone. That's a swing and a miss, Q. We'll see. We'll see. Big swing and a miss. No females. We're not picking any females yet. I did. Spice Girls, bro.

Oh, you're right. That's right. Aretha Franklin. I don't know. Everybody's got Aretha. What about? I'm going to say Billy Joel. Billy Joel. Yeah. How many are we picking? Five. How many do I have going to say Billy Joel. Billy Joel. Yeah. How many are we picking?

Five. How many do I have? One, two, three, four. You got one more queue. I have two more. Bri has two more. Oh, guys, Sinatra. Get Sinatra on there.

Sinatra, that's your last one. Yeah. So BQ has the Rolling Stones, Bob Marley, BS. Who's BS? Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and Sinatra. Great. I have the Beatles, Spice Girls, Michael Jackson. I'm going to say Bowie.

That's a good one. And I need somebody current though. Yeah. Amy Winehouse. Yeah, that's a good one. That's mine. That's a good one. I don't know what she sings.

I just know that name. Yeah. She's dead, but still, I know you. You want to give her respect though for career. Bra, you got two more in it. Okay. I'm going to say Janis Joplin maybe. No way. Yeah. That is a whole.

Because he's right in that time though. Yeah, but that's what I was saying. He doesn't live, he's never lived like this. Is that allowed? He's veal. He's a veal. He doesn't want to look stodgy. It's true. Who else was big in Woodstock? I would think more. See, I think you got to think more who's current right now. He wants to be current.

He wants to be relatively. Lady Gaga. Yeah. Oh, boy. I'll give you Lady Gaga if you want that. Okay. I'll take Lady Gaga then. She was awesome on Saturday Night Live.

You went Saturday Night Live this weekend? No, I didn't. That's what I watched in bed interrupt. Did you? Yeah. See, the old queue would have been out trying to find Lady Gaga. The party would. Yeah, I know. The new queue's trying to find Lady Gaga to party with. Yeah, I know.

The new cue's got to get a flight in four hours. The clocks jump ahead. Can you imagine, if I ever told you at some point BQ's going to be afraid of a clock? An hour. An hour. It's going to affect his entire life. I would have put him out of his misery on the spot. Right?

All right. So I have The Beatles, Spice Girls, Michael Jackson, Bowie, Amy Winehouse. Is that five? One, two, three. Yes. Brian has Elton, The Who, Billy Joel, Janis Joplin, and Lady Gaga. BQ, Rolling Stones, Bob Marley, Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin and Sinatra. All right, get them.

Give us, how many songs are on there? Beyonce. Queen, I forgot about Queen though. Can I change one? I'm going to take Amy Winehouse off. I know he doesn't know that. I'm going to say Queen. Someone else who's just as current as Amy Winehouse.

Beyonce. That's a bad, that's a bad misplay by us. That's a bad sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not doing good right off the bat misplay by us. That's a bad sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not doing good right off the bat. Daddy Lumba? I've never even heard of him. He's probably going to go into like all this like obscure music, like cultural music.

You know, there's some assistant who picked this. Yeah. He said, look, give me a 20 year old. But I heard he DJed. Like he talked his memories through. He's saying here that he danced to the music of Gondon singer Daddy Lumba. It's a 2018. So it's kind of recent.

Mir and Macabre don't know that one. You just scroll again. A little bit. Diana Ross. That makes sense. Upside down. Boy, you turn me inside. Kylie Minogue.

The locomotion. Woo. Is that a disco song? Macarena is up here, man. He's corny. The BG's. They're British too. I forgot about them.

Fucking Kylie Minogue. That's it. Great man. He's corny. Oh, the Bee Gees. They're British too. I forgot about them. Fucking Kylie Minogue's got a great body. That's it? Probably just fell in love with her. That way that... It's not just a list of the songs anyway. That's what he's trying to find. What do you think about a king doing this? Like a king DJing? Is it Proper behavior? I mean, it's, it's pretty fucked up.

The world is higher and these motherfuckers making a playlist. You think so? What can he do? What can he do? Concentrate on something a little bit more important. There's one that said, bro. What is he? Brokering peace between Ukraine and Russia, maybe.

You think he can do that? He's the guy. Here, Putin. Here's my playlist. Here, here we go. Bob Marley, boom. Oh, BQ's got a point on the board. Daddy Lumba, DeVito, who are these people? Grace Jones. Michael Buble, uh oh, Pam. That's it, those are them. We've only one. Only one we got. Wow. You are them. We've only one only one we got Wow you want you It doesn't feel like much of a victory. I'm taking my lumps today, so I'll take it

What a weird list. I don't think he made this list You know what though he's probably a very weird man. He's got he has to be right. You can't be normal Living your life no Buckingham Palace. I'm not mad about it. And if I'm not saying if I was him, I wouldn't love it. But it just got to be a weird existence, man. Like, just human veal. It's like you can't leave your cage. Everybody's always looking at you. Everybody's always... Always being judged. Always being judged.

By your own family. Like your own mom is like hey, yeah Yeah, like I don't know if I've ever heard his voice I wonder what his voice it's gotta be super posh, right He's fancy has to be he's got to speak the most correct King's English of all time Fascinating guy All right, well we sucked at that. They made such a big deal about him with Camilla Parker Bowles, the woman he's still with, right, if I'm not mistaken? Yeah, the tampons.

He's like, yeah, I want you to use me as your tampon. I've never heard that one before and I've never heard it since. That is a new one on me. He should be proud because that, he was the only person probably that's ever coined that. Yeah. And you know. It took a little heat.

It took a little heat but it's still like, it's still a dog move. That's something that a dog would say. You're right. To respect. Yeah. I had friends that would like, that would like talk about like going down to girls

when they had their period and stuff. And I'd be like. The red wings? Yeah, red wings And I'd be like, are you fucking nuts? I don't care, man. I love pussy that much. I love it, man. I have, I have, and have unfortunately still friends like that. So, so I guess it's really the same kind of thing. But yeah, and he's so posh now, is he? He's still posh. You know, those old Brits back in the day were always pervy. Wasn't that always their thing?

Yeah, you got that one Prince Andrew guy now running around. No, I think he's criminally laid out. I mean, that's pervy. He's got to stay in England. Yeah. But like half of England was brothels back in the day. So, whatever happened with Jack the Ripper? Whatever it is him, did that story evolve in a way that was definitive to –

Get him. Was that definitive or no? Get him saying no, that we kind of were fed a curveball and that the person who claimed it had ulterior motives. It's like Zodiac. curveball and that the person who claimed it had ulterior motives. It's like zodiac. Once every couple of years, it's like, my dad was the zodiac or my neighbor was the zodiac and then it turns out like maybe, but who knows?

I think they caught zodiac though, didn't they? Or is he still on? I thought he was still on. They broke his codes, right? The genial DNA was actually used. Or is that the Golden State guy? That was the Golden State guy who got the familial DNA. Yeah. Let's see, has…

Says not. As of today, the Zodiac Killer has not been definitively… Has not been. Yeah. Wow. Every once in a while they say it though. I wonder if can people get away with that stuff anymore? What?

Serial killing? Well, on that level. I think it's much harder now. Yeah, right? I think yeah, with all the advances in technology, cameras being everywhere. Cameras alone, yeah. It's got to be. It's hard out there for a serial killer.

It's got to be more difficult to go unnoticed. Yeah. Unless you're like, unless you're one of these guys, you're one of these serial killers, that's all like truckers have a perfect occupation for serial killing. You know, it's like you're in Florida one day and then you're in Illinois the next. So by the time they find the body, if you've secreted it well. Usually the bodies though are prostitutes though. Usually, yeah. it well. Do you – Usually the bodies though are – You're right. I guess it's –

Prostitutes though. Usually, yeah. A lot of times. So that makes your victims – Makes it more difficult. I think it makes it – because all the girls know each other and they kind of look out for each other. Yeah.

That did happen with this guy who was a cop. I think it was in Nevada. It was a guy who was killing girls and they were like, yeah, it's this guy. He's a creepy guy. He's in a truck and blah, blah, blah. And one of his coworkers was like, well, my buddy has a truck like that. And like, they had to arrest him, you know, like they got like they had to look into it and then it turned out like, yeah, it was him.

Cop killing, killing girls, killing hookers and stuff. That's horrible. Yeah. Like that, that's the type of thing that you're like, my friend did what? Yeah. Yeah. And as a hooker, it's like, come on. Like, I don't got it bad enough. that that's the type of thing that you're like my friend did what yeah yeah and as a hooker it's like come on like I don't got it bad enough I know I mean I wonder if like hookers are like I fucking knew this was gonna happen at some point or yeah you gotta be ready for it somebody getting rough with you

at least I know it sounds like an unfun life yeah you know that's not what a trio showed us in the bunny ranch. They made it look fun. Did you see Daredevil? I did. What did you think? I liked it. I didn't like the second episode. First episode was pretty good.

Second episode was- It went hard that first episode. Yeah, and then they went real kind of snooze. I don't really remember the second episode, so there you go. It was the white tiger. Oh, it did have that funny line though when he was like, he didn't have his mystical amulet on him. That made me laugh out loud.

I was like, oh, that is fucking funny. I don't know whether it was intentional or not, but I was like, that's pretty funny. Now, do you, are you familiar with the White Tiger? Because this was a character that I grew up with. I'm familiar with him. I wouldn't say I have an affinity for him, but I know who he is. He did have a mystical amulet. He was-

No, no, I know. That's what I'm saying. It was funny that he said- But I was surprised that they cast an actor who was so old to play the role of the White Tiger because in the comics he was a teenager. It was the sons of the tiger were three or yeah, three or four four martial artists who broke up and they each had a mystical amulet, a tiger's head, and then I think three paws or four paws. And they threw them all out. They broke up. They just threw them in an alley, in a garbage can in an alley. And then this Hector was the guy, it was a kid's name, and he grabbed

the amulets and put them all on and became the White Tiger. Oh, wow. All right. But he was a young kid, basically. He was like 16, 17 years old. So I was surprised that they made the White Tiger so, you know, a middle-aged man. And I heard this actor passed away. My wife told me that he was a soap opera star. And she said, oh, he passed away that guy. So I don't know if he's got to finish his role or not. That doesn't seem like it's going to be a super big role anyway.

I think it's the seasons. I think it's part of the arc is like him defending the white tiger and trying to get him off the bogus charges. Right. Yeah, I guess so. I guess I don't remember that second episode all that much. That tells a lot, right? If you can't remember, it was less than a week ago or exactly a week ago that it came out. I might have had the volcano going, so you don't know. You don't want to put it just on episode two. But it was...

Were you shocked in the first 15 minutes what happened? I mean, I think I've read that storyline before. Didn't that happen in the comics? I have never seen... By the time I checked out a current comics I had not seen that happen it happens in the comics and he comes back and he's he there's a whole thing of like sorry there's a whole thing of like of Foggy being in that state and on the run a little bit of something like that. I wonder if but he definitely died here Did you yeah, can we talk about it or? But did you like like when bullseye We're gonna leave died here. Did you, yeah, can we talk about it or is it too? It's been a week, I don't know, I don't know where to end.

But did you like when Bullseye lived through such a fall? Uh, hold on one second. You have to cut this out, Brian. Sorry. I'm literally saying stop texting me. You put it on do not disturb. No, I didn't. I never thought of that, buddy. All right.

Okay. All right. Sorry about that, Ken. I didn't mean to snap at you like that. I apologize, buddy. Oh, you snapped at him? What did you say? That's not a snap. I didn't mean snappy like that. I apologize, buddy. Oh, you snapped at him? What did you say? That's not a snap. You haven't seen a snap. I missed it. I was like, oh.

It's going off and he's like, why don't you put it on Do Not Disturb? And I'm like, yeah, I never thought of that. Oh, yeah. That's not in it. That's what I call tiptoeing around. Get them. Those are what's called kid gloves. But did you like that Bullseye could survive a fall from the top of a building? I like it better than killing Bullseye.

Right. So, it's one of those complex things that I'm just going to deal with. It's very comic book-y that he would be able to survive that, but boy, when you spend so much time trying to ground everything in reality, that's a tough one to swallow. A four-story fall like face down. Yeah. Bullseye is a regular guy. That's a tough one to swallow. A four story fall like face down. Yeah. Yeah. Bullseye is a regular guy.

He's on the- Well, in the comic, he is just a regular guy, but then he gets an adamantium skeleton. Yeah. Which they haven't mentioned. Have they done that yet in the series? I mean, it's been so long. Maybe this is how he gets it. Yeah.

But he was alive only a year later in court. Remember? No. Yeah. A year later, they pick up and Bullseyeyes in court and that's when Karen comes back to see him. They say it's a full year later. I don't remember that. Dude, you got to get rid of that volcano. It's fucking having horrible ramifications. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh, I thought you were talking about a comic book storyline. You're

talking about in the show. Oh, in the show, yeah. Yes, when Karen came back and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it had only been a year later and he looked fine for- For the, well, for adamantium infusion. If that's what happened to him. That's a comic book, man. I still love Colin Farrell's Bullseye. I barely remember it.

I remember it so well. I loved it. I know at the time people hated it and they thought it was corny, but I was like, I loved it. He had a bullseye on his forehead and he kept pointing to it. Bullseye, bullseye. And you're like, we got it, dude. I don't know.

I like that one. I think I remember liking the Ben Affleck daredevil. I don't remember hating it like everybody did. The soundtrack was corny as fuck, but like, I don't know. I kind of thought he made a good daredevil. I didn't think it was terrible. I didn't think it was terrible. I didn't think it was all that good, but it was serviceable. There was things that I definitely would have changed.

There was things I did like and there was things I didn't like, but I think that Charlie Cox has made it. He owns it now and it's his. Yeah. Now, how many times did you it now and it's, it's his. Yeah. Now, how many times did you see the benefit there devil? Two times. Two times.

Like, I don't know how you remember shit from movies like that. Like it's hard to remember. It's from a time when the superhero movies weren't coming out like they were now so you can get areas. He killed that woman on the plane by popping a peanut in her throat because she was coughing. It's hard to believe that's the penguin, right? Yeah, right? Yeah, you're right.

Fuck, he's got a whole complex history now. You didn't see the penguin, right? I did. Oh, did you? Did you recommend it? I liked it. Yeah, it does pretty good. I've heard that it's kind of like a mob thing.

If you take the penguin, remove the penguin and put a regular guy. 100%. Yeah. Him being the penguin almost has nothing to do with anything. Like, yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it was good. I thought it was really well done. Started watching the last of us on Chuck's recommendation. Well, you didn't like it. Me and Chuck disagree a little bit.

Disagree on this, huh? Yeah, we disagree a little bit. I liked the game. Uh, series. I didn't fall in love like everybody else did. What episode do you want? I want the second one. Okay.

Talk to me after the third one. Okay. Yeah. They did this thing where it's like they broke away from the story. Did you watch Righteous Gemstones? Yes. The season premiere. I haven't seen the new season.

Fuck, dude. The first episode is so fucking good. And it does write what the third episode of Last of Us does not do right, which is like break away from the main story, tell a separate storyline. But fucking dude, everybody, dude, I don't know. It was well acted. It was fine. It was well written. But I was like, why the third episode of a series? You're breaking away from a main character for a love story? You're like, what the fuck is this? Oh, it's a love story.

Dude, you're like, what is this, man? Like, where are the zombies? But that was just my frustration with it. Am I the only one who thinks Pedro Pascal should give other people a chance? It's going to be Mr. Fantastic. Yeah, I know. I just saw that. I was watching a bunch of trailers and I saw that he's in that too. And it's like, he's in everything.

He's in all the Star Wars stuff, right? Or at least. He's the Mandalorian, right? He is the Mandalorian, right? He is the Mandalorian, yeah. I think when you have an opportunity, you take it, you turn nothing down because eventually Hollywood stops calling. I like doing Narcos a lot. He was really good in that. I didn't see Narcos.

Oh, that's great. You know, ask all the actors who are hot at one point, you know, at some point they'll stop calling you and they, it's, well, What have you done for me now? Not what have you done for me in the past and they'll forget them So you take get the show get if you're good enough though, like, you know people like if you're a Bill Murray type Yeah, people like died. I come out and he's an icon. He's a legend You know, yeah, that's kind of different. But I like Pedro though. I like him too, he's in a lot. Yeah, he's in a lot. When he got cast in Mr. Fantastic, I was like, I do like the guy.

I wouldn't have picked him for that, but I like him, so we'll wait and see. I like that attitude. Wait and see. We'll wait and see on that one. That's what we need more of in America. Wait and see. I felt like the people who made The Last of Us- Then I knew it. The people who made The Last of Us I feel didn't want to make a zombie show.

No. Yeah. I think they were like, it's one of those genre shows where they're like embarrassed that they're making- Zombies still? Yeah. And you're like, guys, don't make zombie shows if you want to do two full episodes are turned over to romances.

Two full fucking episodes and you're just like- Those are not short episodes either. No. And it's just like, guys, what are we doing? You guys, every second I watch these two fall in love, you could have had zombies eating people. And don't you understand the show I'm trying to watch here? Yeah. You're right. It does seem like they're trying to veer away from like, they're not zombies. They're like fungus guys.

Which is cool. That's fine. That's all right take, because in the game it's so well done. And the zombie, the clickers, did you get to the clickers yet? Those are so creepy in the game, like they got a lot right in the show and I like the casting but. You don't like the romance though, huh? You can't find romance in a world where fungus zombies are running around? I think it shouldn't be the third episode of a series where the two main characters

just got together at the end of the second episode. And then the third episode, instead of watching them do their thing, you're in a fucking romance and you never see a zombie. I used to think like you. I used to be in the same way what I wanted, what I thought I wanted, but the office turned me around and I was like, I like romance. Pete Slauson I like romance. Jared Ranere Jim and Pam really turned me –

Pete Slauson Fantastic. Jared Ranere … a new side to me that I was like, I want more romance in everything I watch. Pete Slauson Yeah. Jared Ranere Bullshit. Pete Slauson I hear you and I see this sincerity in your face. But that's – Jared Ranere I'm not kidding. I love that romance.

Pete Slauson That's fine though. But look at the method that they're delivering it to. It's a sitcom. It's about people, you know what I mean, who are working together. It's not about a fucking zombie apocalypse, which again, again, I'm not saying that nobody can ever make a great romance set, but that should have been the fucking seventh episode, not the third. I don't know.

Do whatever you fucking want, people. Obviously, they have a hit show on their hands. They don't need advice from me. Well, something like The Office 2, you have, and I think it was done, even though I don't like Jim and Pam, I do think it was done well. You have eight seasons to let it unfold. Yeah. Whereas like you say, already on episode three, they're trying to force the romance and... It impacts the story, not even a moment. If you don't watch that episode, nothing changes.

It's fucking wild. It's fucking nuts. Well, that sucks. Well, I think Chuck's a romantic guy. That's why he likes it so much. Me and Chuck talked about this. He does have a different perspective on it than me. Yeah.

Which is fine. Which is, hey, man, you know what? Not everything's for me. No. And it never will be. No. Nope. Who cares if fucking two out of eight hours of a zombie experience are fucking love stories

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And that is all we have for this week. Just one spot this week. Did you see that I was, well, you're an artist. I'm curious about what you think about this. There was an artist in, I think it was Germany, Denmark. Three little pigs were rescued from the big bed wolf. Three piglets that were left to starve to death as a part of a shocking art exhibit in Denmark have been stolen and saved from their horrific fate thanks to a 10 year old girl begging her father to come to the rescue.

He used real pigs in the art display? Yep. You want to see them? There they are. Three little piggies. Yeah, that's grotesque. Yeah. Yeah, so the-

I heard about this. I thought the artist had a clever point. Obviously, I don't agree with that, but he was like 10,000 pigs die a day in horrible conditions and you care about these three? That was his point. Now you care is the name of the exhibit. Obviously, I think it's repulsive to do this and it's horrible. But I think the point he's trying to make is like, oh, wow. He's kind of right if you think about it.

Are they dying for food? Yeah, food reasons. That's always the tricky thing. But I think it's the way that they're dying is horrific. And this guy's point. Do you eat pork? I really don't, not out of any stand- You want to tell me you ate all that bacon and fucking nearly died?

Yeah, that was the last time. That was the fucking last time. Yeah. But I mean, I'd love to dropkick this guy off a fucking building for trying to do that to the pigs, but I do understand the point he's trying to make. Do you think, because I was thinking about this, it says, to make his point, the native Chilean, come on you, the native Chilean constructed a cage of hay and shopping carts, trapping a tree of adorable piglets inside with the express purpose of allowing them to starve

to death, but the tiny pigs have been given a second chance at life after the conscious of a friend of the artist prevailed over the unsavory demonstration." So I was thinking about it. Do you think that he knew the whole time that nobody's going to let these pigs starve to death? I mean, he wasn't just trying to raise awareness about factory. I never thought about that before. And if that is true, then this guy really is fucking playing chess while I'm playing checkers. Right. Why not? Right? He gets the point of course without

hurting the pigs. It's probably what he happened. Yeah. All right. Suddenly I'm on board with this guy's method. Said he was surprised to find out that his friend was part of the jailbreak, but he was able to find a silver lining. He had to shut down the whole exhibition and he was very disappointed when Casper told exhibition and he was very disappointed when Casper told me that he was involved in the theft. But then I thought about it for a few hours and realized at least this way the piglets would have a happy life. Artists are weird people, man. They do weird shit for art. I remember this guy in Eric's – when Eric was in college, my brother Eric, he took a picture of his girlfriend taking

a shit on the toilet without her permission and then went to his art class and put it up on this huge screen in front of everybody. She was in the art class. That's just an asshole. It's like an asshole move. That's criminal act. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

What was her reaction? She was unhappy. She was very unhappy. I don't think she broke up with the guy, if I remember correctly, but she was another What was her reaction? She was unhappy. She was very unhappy. I don't think she broke up with the guy, if I remember correctly, but she was another weirdo, like hippie type, so I guess she wasn't as upset as your average person might be. The invasion of privacy alone is just like, how can you ever talk to that person again and not be without being hemorrhaged?

Remember when you did that shit? Yeah. That was just being so mad. Like you hit a camera in a room where I was taking a shit? It doesn't matter what is wrong with you. Oh yeah. It says here about, this is a lot, about 25,000 piglets die each day on Danish farms from starvation because sows are bred to have litters of about 20 piglets will only be equipped with 14 teats.

How many die a day? 25,000. 25,000? What that would be, so in two weeks, it's like a quarter of a million? Wait a second. 25,000 a day? A day, yeah. Yeah. Oh my God.

That's not possible. That's a scale of misery that's unbelievable, that that's going on on the planet that we live on. 25,000 a day. That's what it says, about 25,000 piglets die each day on Danish farms from starvation because cows are bred to have litters of 20 piglets. Not even for food purposes, they're just cost.

They grow more than they need and they let the ones that don't need starve. Yeah, those are probably the weaker ones, right? Crazy. And Denmark produces roughly 20 million pigs annually from 5,000 pig farms. Oh, those poor pigs. About 90% of those pigs are exported, accounting for more than 5% of total exports, making the industry vital for the Danish economy.

So if they don't have those pigs, they're in trouble. There's not a good way to do this. In 40 days, a million piglets died. A million piglets in 40 days? Oh man. That's just in one country? That's just in Denmark, yeah. Oh man. It makes you feel guilty, doesn't it?

It makes you feel horrible. I feel horrible right now. Yeah. Tell them Steve, they don't want you. I looked down at the timer just to see if we were in a good place. All right. So 25,000 times 365. What is that number? Is that 9 million? Yes.

9 million a year. Where do they do it? What? Yeah, like where do they get the, what do they do with them? I guess they just feed them back to the pigs. They feed them back to the pigs. You're right. And that's how they get those brain diseases and shit. Oh man.

Mad pig disease. That's a bummer, man. Where's my volcano? This is why I need that fucking thing at my side. I can't think about this. Oh man, one of my outdoor cats showed up this morning with a fur missing on the side of his face. I guess he got into a fight or something. I was so like, what do I do? I was so upset and worried about it. I thought that was bad. Now I feel so horrible. Millions of piglets. Oh, little baby piglets. They're cute too. They're so cute. They're smart too. Yeah. People keep pigs as pets and I know how smart they can be. Well, aren't they like the third smartest

animal on the planet or something like that? Yeah, I think it's the smartest animal on the planet. I think dolphins, right? I thought it was orangutans. Oh, all right. This is going to be fun. It says pigs are intelligent. I don't think they're smart. And clean. I don't think they're as smart as a dolphin. I heard dolphins are like next level. Shamps, dolphins, orangutans, elephants, ravens, crows, orcas, pigs, octopuses, rats, and African grey parrots are known for their advanced problem-solving

skills, communication abilities, and complex social schematics. Pigs, high learning ability, capable of complex tasks, and good spatial awareness. Oh man. Well, all right. Let's keep killing them, I guess. Let's keep starring them to death. It sounds good. Oh.

I mean, well, so what, and when you add on the ones that have to die for, to get on the grocery shelves, how many die a day then? You're not even counting the ones that die just to go on your grocery shelf. I don't know, man. The ones that go to the restaurants. It's just like, yeah, how many are actually dying a day then? Yeah, that is a horrific ... It's a staggering number. This is going on around us. It's horrible.

Yeah, well, I try not to eat pork really anymore. Yeah, I haven't eaten pork in decades, but I eat other things though that are probably are just as bad though, beef, chicken. Chicken I try at least to do like the free range chickens and stuff like that, that you got to pay a little more for to get it, but I'll try and do that. But none of it feels like you're doing enough. No. Because it's one person, yeah.

It's pretty much nothing except for your own personal beliefs, morals, whatever. Makes you want to get a pet pig. Yeah, the go big though. Remember the- My brother-in-law had a pet pig. Yeah? Yeah, he loved it. Loved it. He lived a long time too. I could do with it.

Very smart. Yeah, I think you would – I mean, are you zoned for pig out there? I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure you could grease a couple palms. These zones are going to bother me. Hope not seeing some of the girls he's brought home, man. Do you need a special permit for pigs? I know you do for chickens. I think livestock you need. Yeah, but they fall under a different category though than a cat or a dog though. Yeah. Doug Stanhope bought me a goat once, do you remember?

Doug Higley, yeah. Doug Higley bought me a goat, named it Quinn, and then we're in the process of shipping it to New York when I was like, no, I had a guy called Wendivet, and I was like, guys, you cannot send me a goat. I have nowhere to put this. Those things are cool though, like those little baby goats, man. They're always buttoning you and shit. Oh, I love watching the videos and them running up and buttoning people.

Yeah, that are bent over. What about if you get one of those little pigs that don't really grow that big? I don't know what they're called now. I think that turned out to be a scam. I think they all get big. Oh, they really are. Yeah, it was like, fuck you rich people.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Tea cup, y'all. Take a tea cup, yeah. I would love it. I would love a whole lot of those. It's your birthday. Why don't you give yourself Yeah. Teacup, y'all. Teacup. Teacup. Yeah. I would love it. I'd love a wine, though. It's your birthday.

Why don't you give yourself a little treat. Treat myself to a pig. What do you think the cats would do? Boris would have a new best friend. Yeah. Yeah, Brooklyn would be afraid and Chasie wouldn't give a shit. I think they'd be all right with it. Yeah.

Yeah. I think they would. Yeah. But yeah, what's going on? So that's it. What are we doing? Where are we? What are you guys up to?

I haven't seen you in two weeks. Two weeks. Yeah, it's true. I haven't seen you in two weeks. What have you been doing, Walt? What have I been doing? Yeah, like when you stay home, what do you do? When I stay home, what do I do?

Yeah. Geez, what do I do? I wonder about you sometimes. What do I do? I'm trying to think right now. I don't know if I do anything. I try to coordinate things for the Patreon. That's a bitch. Trying to constantly get people a free dates that they're available. Unless it's me. Yes, you're easy. You're pretty easy.

Watch TV, go out with the dogs, go out to eat. There's really not, I mean, what else is there to do? There's nothing to do, right? And now that it's night time, we should give you a little quarter to talk about the weather, Q, since it's so nice. Yeah, you had to turn it all around, right? Because of warm weather? My mood is, yeah, Kim, since it's so nice. Yeah, you had to. Turned all around, right? It's warm weather.

Dude, my mood is, yeah, well, I'm back to shooting, so I'm with all my friends. It's like I'm back in high school again. And then like you get out of work, it's like 5.30, the sun's still up. It's 60-something degrees. I'm skipping around Manhattan. I'm feeling pretty good. You know? Good.

Yeah, I feel all right. Birthdays are coming. Birthdays are coming. Birthdays are coming. How do you feel about it? Like, just like, right on the precipice of 50? Yeah. Does it feel old? I feel older.

I feel older. I don't know. I imagine you guys felt the same way where it's just like, oh, I don't feel like a kid anymore. But it doesn't bother me. The number doesn't bother me at all. I am finding some comfort. I never thought I would have thought this would happen. I would say this sentence, but the idea that I'm going to die one day and relatively soon,

you know what I mean? Has taken a lot of fear and pressure off me in a way that I'm like, well, fucking really, all I gotta do is worry about the next 20 years and then I'll probably be dead. You know what I mean? Like it's like there's, there's, I'm not even talking about the world. I'm talking like my career. Like if you told me Joker's End, I never did another fucking thing again. I've at this at 50 something whenever the show ends, I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Who cares? Where if I was in like my 30s?

I'd be like no I got 40 years to look after myself and shit like that like now It's like that's removed like the idea that I got to prove myself is is removed the idea that my like Battling days are behind me. You know what I mean? What does that mean? No more battles for you? I'm interested. Yeah, that's interesting. What does that mean? You know, when you're a young man, you want to make a name for yourself. You want to go out and you got to stake your claim in this world. But it's interesting you called it battling though. Yeah? You find that interesting? Yeah. It's interesting that like making a name for yourself, you would refer to it as

battling. I think it's a tough world out there, man. There was no easy road to jokers. Not even jokers, anything, even the fire department, like anything. That's true. Like anything. It's a tough world. It's hard to make money these days especially, you know what I mean?

It's like when you're young and you don't have your future laid out yet, I think that's pretty scary or I remember it being scary. And then throughout my middle age, like there was that notion of like, wow, we got this thing and like, how long can we keep it going? And then it just keeps going. I'm just obviously talking about me. And then and then you know, I hit the age and I'm like, and then it's just like, it's this weird thing of like knowing that my death is coming. It's not around the corner, but it's like, you know, it's not four blocks away either, you know? And that's like kind of shaping what I want to do with my time and how I see what I want

to do with myself from day to day. It's interesting. It's like Fight Club. I don't know, I can't remember the exact quote, but it's like, you must realize that one day you're going to die until you realize this year you're useless. Yeah, and it's a good line. And it's like my answer comes back. It's clearly every time I want to spend time with my friends and family. I want to have fun. That's literally all it becomes. And I know guys, especially in my business, who are like, no, I want to be famous.

No, I want to be rich. No, I want to do that. You know what I mean? I want to sell out the garden. You know what I mean? Shit like that and you're like, well, speaking of someone that sold out the garden, fucking the next day, it don't matter. You know what I mean? Somebody else sold out the garden the next day. Yeah, exactly. It's funny and I'm just liking that my priorities are landing on the side of I just want to spend time doing fun stuff with people I love. I think that's – That's good. Yeah, I think that's a good place to end up.

That's a healthy way to approach it. Yeah. That's what the QS thing was all about. It's 100% that. When is that? What are the dates for that again? That's April. It's sold out. Sold out. It's April 4th. 4th through the 7th, I think? Yeah April. It's sold out. Sold out. It's April 4th. 4th through the 7th, I think.

Yeah, 4th, 5th and 6th. 4th, 5th and 6th. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. People are very excited for that. I see a lot on Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it. Yeah, I've been working.

I got some more people signing on that we're not even announcing. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because it's like we already sold the tickets, so we'll just surprise people. But I saw Joe and Bergio will be down there. Joe and Bergio will be down there. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited about that. Yeah, I don't know. So anyway, I don't know if that answers your question of how I feel about approaching 50,

but there's a philosophical bend to it all for me, I think. No, I mean everybody approaches it differently. Some people have, you know, panic and they do things that are, what's it called, the midlife crisis kind of move and … These jerk-offs that go out and get like a young bride, sports car, this kind of thing. I mean, I get that too. I mean, I get it. It's not like that's a bad time. Yeah. I don't

know. Like, what did you guys, was there any difference, anything I'm saying, ringing in with you guys who are already on the other side of it? Or is it? Your career though, it has been so super successful though that it's, you know, you've hit all the crescendos, all the things you wanted to hit. Like all these benchmarks. Yeah, you've done it all. You've gotten all of it so you have a more of a – you can look at it with pride and – you did this. You did this. There's a part of that. you did this. You did this. I did this.

But I think I would have felt this way even with the fire department because I respect that so much that it felt like an equal accomplishment to anything else really. Yeah, I don't know if personally though if I have those kind of like professional achievements though. So I'm still, I still feel like I need. I mean, you had a TV show for seven seasons. Yeah, but I- Professional artist. You've done comic books, you're a professional artist, and we do the same podcast together for 15 years.

You didn't mention the podcast once though. It's not that different. You didn't mention the podcast in the- I was getting to it. Yeah. Yeah, professionally though, I think that, you know that you're in a different zone. You've accomplished so much that you could look back and be like, yeah, I don't need – like it's like a Derr Jeter.

What more do I got to do? Sure. Yeah. I don't accept that comparison. I know what you mean. He hit the – he got the rings, he got the MVPs. You know, you can retire now with a sense of accomplishment. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I can professionally, if I can have that feeling. So I feel that there's a little always that something I want, like

I want to write and draw my own comic book. Yeah. Something I've always wanted to do. So I think I better get fucking working on it. That's good though. Yeah. I want to do it from like, from what's it called, from cover to back cover. That's amazing, dude. I want to do that. But I know it'll be only, but it won't be,

I don't know, you know, just because of the world of comic books, and I have put out comic books They've not set the world on fire. I don't think it'll be the Thing that I'll be able to be like, okay, I did it. I achieved this with this Well, what are you doing if achieve what because it sounded like you're on the success? Yeah, the success is that's the outcome. That's that to me like I wouldn't worry critical and Chase that dude. I think you just got to do stuff. That's the outcome. That's, that to me, like, I wouldn't worry about it. Critical and sales. I don't think you can chase that, dude. I think you just got to do stuff that's like, I think you got to stuff that's rewarding no matter what the fucking.

You had me in the beginning where you're like, I want to write from beginning to end the comic and do the art myself. That's the goal. That's what you can do. Yes, but you also mentioned in your eloquent, I sold out Masses Square Garden. If I put out a- But how meaningless it was. But you know it's not though.

No, no, I'm telling you it is. No, no, no, I am not being humble. I've heard him say it privately. I am not being humble. It's a cool fact that has zero impact. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm sure there are people out there-

What would you want if it didn't sell out? I don't think it would have. I think it would feel, I don't know, I think it would feel the same. So if I do write and draw my own comic book and it goes out in like a hundred copies, sell worldwide, you can't equate it as a success though. So that's the thing that- I think you can. Well, commercially maybe.

Yeah. I think it's about what you got out of the process. Like I want to write a novel. It's like, do you? Yeah, I started, I started like working on one and beating it out and stuff. And I'm like, in no universe of my ever think it's gonna be the best seller, but like it's the process. It's like, I fucking wrote a novel. I put this, you know, I put this out there in the world. I don't know. I hear what you're saying. I think I can do it. I think I've shown that I can finish projects and get them done, but I think I'll always be chasing that coveted final like it's a success. Walt's number one.

Yeah. Well, then you've got to start working on the fourth one now. So you get that book done and out, and by the time that's done, you're already working on the second one, because it's not going to be the, it's going to be the, you know what I mean? Like, this is going to lead to this. You can't just put one out there and be like, here it is, everybody. I know.

Yeah. You know? Yes. Yeah. So but you have it in you. And it's like, again, if you're loving doing it, it doesn't. Yeah, I enjoy doing it. I mean, I have ideas. I love to you have it in you and it's like, again, that's if you're loving doing it, it doesn't. Yeah, I enjoy doing it.

Yeah. I mean, I have ideas. I love to fucking read what you wrote and drew. Yeah. I have ideas I want to do, but it's just a matter of sitting down and like finishing it though. Yeah. And at the end of the day, you're like, you get that doubt in your mind, like, oh, what's

the point? The state of the comic book world is so fucking- It's on the Johnson family crest. What's the point? The state of the comic book world is in such flux right now. There was a listener who got War of the Undead, he liked it and gave me some compliments on it. But then, and he said in the, like, he sent me an email saying, don't ever give up on your dream of doing a character I wanted to do for Marvel Comics.

And it was nice of him to say that, but I don't even know if that is something like, I think comics have changed so much that the, even if I got to work on a Marvel comic book character, I don't know if it would be as, the cache would be the same for me. Even internally to yourself. Eternally to myself because it has, it's not the same. It's a different industry. Yeah. Well like 25 years ago it would have meant a lot more.

It would have been like, yeah, it would have been a Mount Everest type of achievement. Because comics was its own thing. It wasn't a means to an end for fucking movies to be streamlined. I don't mean, it's not, I just, it's just my personal opinion on things. It's like, it just feels like it's such a different beast now that I don't know if it would have the same level of accomplished. It would be, it'd still be an accomplishment, but I don't know. I don't know what the would have the same level of accomplishment. It would still be an accomplishment, but I don't know. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. No, it's good. You're finding it, man.

You're feeling your way through it. I think it's good. Yeah. I mean, it's something I've always wanted to do. And I certainly don't. I only think that gives me a little bit of confidence is all the things that have come out like in terms of like, but they're not real writing though. It's like podcasts, like writing things and trying to get them done in a podcast setting.

That's not really writing, but it is still coming up ideas. It's writing. Of course it is. Well, you know what I mean, like characterization. It's just a far different animal than, you know, Sunday Jeff needs to hit this ping-pong ball with his sneaker or else he has to. I hear you, man. I know what you're saying.

I know what you're saying, but I would not put down that creativity, man. We don't have the audience that we have because people don't find that entertaining. Yeah. There's a little bit of that confidence. I think I could do this because I've done this, this, and this. But then even if I get it done, no, I don't know if there's a world that even cares, like the world won't care. Is that what stops you, the fear of people being like, ho-hum?

It doesn't, no, no. It doesn't stop me, but it does make it, I don't know, like it has changed so much the industry that I don't think it's possible for me at this point in my life to put out something that's impactful to the current people who are interested in comics. And I think that that may be a cop out though on my part though. That may be me being- It might be a cop out. It might be true. I still think it doesn't matter either way.

You're right. Yeah, you're right. But I think with, you know, with the thing with Tim and his, you know, his diagnosis, it really put me, like, if I don't do it now, I better get, I mean, I might not get to it then. You might not be able to get to it. Yeah, so, you know, it really makes you prioritize and think about, you know, am I wasting time here watching Kung Fu, you know, for four straight hours or should I be doing something better at my time, something like an achieve something?

Don't ever fucking say that about TV again. It can still be on in the background. It can still be on in the background. We need it. We need it. Yeah, you need that noise, you know, but yeah, that's, you know, that's what I want to do though. I'm going to work towards it. I'm going to try to write and draw. The's what I want to do though. I'm going to work towards it.

I'm going to try to write and draw. The only thing I won't do is color it. I'm not a good colorist. I need somebody who knows what the fuck they're doing. Otherwise, I want it to be just like the guys that I love how they did it. John Byrne, he did all. Frank Miller did it all. Yeah.

You got to do it, man. I want to try and test and see if Frank Miller did it all. Yeah. You gotta do it, man. I wanna try and test and see if I can do it all. You can, I think you gotta. I think you gotta. Yeah, now you gotta. You put it out there. Yeah, I think it's great, man. I'd love to hear this from you.

What are you writing your novel about? Or can you give away, is it just a subject matter? Like, not a subject, but like the genre? Is it fiction? It's science fiction. space comedy. It's not Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy because I never write anything that brilliant, but it's in that area. Who wrote that? Douglas Adams.

Have they ever made that into a movie? Yeah. It was a TV show. It was a radio thing. They made a movie out of it. The movie was ... Because that is such a beloved novel. It's fucking amazing. Those books are amazing, yeah. Do you have something that like did the recent things, things that have happened recently in TSC Town as a motivator to do something that's different? It's made me think a lot more. Yes.

Yeah, it absolutely is. Because it's only when it's like, for me anyway, it's only when it's in my face that I'm like, oh, there's no fucking reason in the world why it would happen to Tim, but not to me. You know? Like you go through life thinking that way. Like that's the kind of shit that happens to somebody else until it happens to you. And you find out real quick that like, oh, wait, no, this is just, yeah.

Especially like, I mean, not that I'm at such an advanced age, but 57 isn't young. So yeah, I feel like I should be working on something more and more, I feel that way. No matter what the motivation is, like you says though, regardless of what it is, if you can find the motivation in some capacity, whether it be however you find it, I guess it's a good thing though. Don't you think? You better. This is thoughtful. It's not a downer. It should be.

I think it's more thoughtful. We're in should be. I don't think it's a downer. Why does it feel like one though? I think it's more thoughtful, like we're in our heads. We're not down. Yeah, but maybe, yeah, it's not a downer. I don't think it's a downer. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing.

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