Tell Em Steve-Dave - #631: TESD Presents Mukbang
Episode Date: March 24, 2025Feeders/gainers, Broadway, Sage’s prom, AI, Impractical Jokers, midlife crisis, office temperature reason revealed!...
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Hi, this is Tim the Record Store clerk want to take a minute out and say
Thanks to bry and walt and q for doing the benefit podcast
Everybody bought one and all the kind words it means the world and it's really helped out a lot. Thank you so much
It has more to offer than just shoveling food down his throat.
No. No, still looks small to me.
Holy fucking shit, that girl is big.
Tell him Steve, Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell them Steve, Dave.
We got a full house here. We got Q. We got Walt. And to a lesser extent, we got Gatam.
Hey, hey, hey. I had a good idea for Gatam. I was on my way here and this is something,
Q, you and I wrote a script. One day we were going down to Baltimore and we saw a guy that was dressed as a Statue
of Liberty in probably 20 degree weather.
The sign twirler?
The sign twirler.
Yeah, I forgot about that guy.
We felt so bad for him.
We were like, can you imagine that's what you're driven to?
You got to do it.
It was so cold.
It was for taxes. It was-
It was for taxes, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Liberty taxes, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we started talking about it and we came up with a story and we actually wrote a
whole entire script around it, which I still think is a pretty good movie.
I think it would be really fun.
But I was thinking in Gittem's off hours, maybe not the Statue of Liberty, but if
we could dress him as a four-colored demon with
an arrow pointing upstairs.
Did you see that arrow that's in the stairs?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we did that for a, I did a thing where it was just him a day in his life.
Oh, I didn't see it.
And we had him go out in the office, coach in the outfit and on the highway and direct
traffic, try to direct traffic into the parking lot.
I was not aware of that.
And a bus pulled up and everybody gets off from New York, all the commuters and he's trying to
like dance in front of them and point them in the direction. Where podcast do you come check us out?
What happens if they came up there?
You say one person looks? Not one person looked – What happens if they came up there? What would you have to do? You say one person looks?
Not one person looks at them.
One person?
They just get off with their briefcase and keep walking right to their cars.
I don't know what the – I always thought that sign was just made to just like – because
it's so difficult to find your way around here.
It's so like –
Could you imagine that?
I brought a sign that huge because it's that difficult to find your way to the office.
No, that sign was made specifically for him to stand on the highway and try to direct
traffic in here.
Yeah, we actually built it.
We had John downstairs do the vinyl.
This is where you need to get into these small details.
That's why you are out on the highway, dancing, and pointing people into the parking lot,
and I'm sitting here, do this now and do this.
They give you the fine details of how the sign was made.
It's the boots all over again.
Oh, okay.
See, this is the constructive input I need.
Yes.
If I do this, if I just put my finger on my nose.
Oh, all the hand signals again. Yeah, nose, kill that story you're telling or wrap
it up ASAP.
If I rub my nose, but if I scratch my ear, then it's a good story.
Keep telling it.
And then we have flea market sign language.
So if he says, my leg is hurting, that means it's not a good deal.
Walk away. Why not just say it's not a good deal?
It's awkward and rude in front of the guy who's trying to sell it.
So, oh, my leg is hurting. What if it's a good deal? You just go to the purchase.
Yeah. You just be like, that sounds good.
Okay. All right.
I also had another idea for getting him for a Patreon show. Okay, do you know what a mukbang is?
You know? Yeah. A mukbang. Let me take a guess. Muk what? Mukbang.
Is it dirty? It's not dirty. No. Okay. Um, mukbang.
Gosh, it sounds so...
Sounds dirty, right?
Yeah, it sounds like some sort of illicit porn.
But I can't even wager, I can't even make a guess what it could possibly be.
I'm going to a mukbang tonight.
It is a Korean internet phenomenon.
It has become a global trend since the mid-2010s
where individuals live stream themselves eating
large quantities of food, often with interactions with the audience.
I don't know. Ten years ago, he could do it.
Tell Steve Day's mock back.
But I think at this stage of his life right now and the condition of his health, that
would be rolling the dice, I think.
Yeah.
Does it have to be gross food?
Could it be like just salad?
No, it could be anything.
It says like any kind of food like usually from easily accessible places like fast food
restaurants.
Do you have footage of this?
Is there a video we could see real quick because I'm curious.
Hold on.
I'll look it up while we're talking.
I feel he's just now getting over all of his ailments and now to throw him right back
into a mug bag.
Throw him into a mug bag.
It would be disastrous.
He wouldn't be getting over.
He just went to the front office and hobbled like a crab.
Oh really? That that's pretty good
That's actually pretty good movement compared to what it really yeah
Shit it's a lady with like it looks like ten meatballs. It's a big lady
Yeah, it's not a small girl, and she's had a she has a fork that is somehow picking up. Oh my god
Why are people doing this?
Internet money, but who's watching it? How many views is it?
It's this kid this one has three hundred twenty three thousand thumbs up three hundred twenty three thousand
With nine point eight million views. Holy the late the heavyset lady. You just saw one point three million views
There's a bald lady eating fried chicken here. They million views. Uh, they can interact with the audience.
Let's see.
Here's some fried chicken.
Holy shit.
It's a bull chick.
Yeah.
All kinds of people.
A lot of Asians.
So is this just, oh, well, it's a Korean.
God.
Yeah.
Okay.
But, uh, so you think, well, that, um, give them doesn't have what it takes
anymore.
No.
I think, like I said 10 years ago, he could eat anyone under the table.
But now I would fear that it would be detrimental to his health big time.
And I also think, all kidding aside, I think he's more talented than just shoving food
down his belly.
Than mukbanging?
Yeah.
I really think he is.
Those people, they don't have anything else to offer.
I do think Gatam has more to offer than just shoveling food down his throat.
All right.
I'm going to need a citation on that.
What do you got?
What do you mean?
In one way, how?
I mean, he makes things.
He's got a sense of humor.
It's not just shoveling food down his throat.
That's not his only skill.
But everybody knows that even if he's mukbang and they can still, okay,
here's an additional thing that he's, that he's good at.
Yeah.
Shove a fried chicken down his gullet.
I don't think he's going to be able to shovel salad down.
I think he's going to probably go to the peanut butter chicken.
And, uh, I think that would be, I mean to probably go to the peanut butter chicken. Oh, I love salad.
And, uh, I think that would be, I mean, it could be a peanut butter chicken coma.
So he could be, I mean, it doesn't seem advisable
and maybe like when he used to walk around the
auction all the time and it was real thin, like
back then he could, could you put it away back then?
Uh, I know, you know, by then I had like trained
myself to eat less.
Okay.
Yeah.
I would usually have two hamburgers in the morning, make my own hamburgers.
How much with the patties?
With the buns and everything?
No, no, just plain hamburgers.
Just beef patties.
Almost like sausage-berry steaks, yeah.
Sure, okay.
Or two chicken breasts, and then I would go till, then I would have dinner later on.
Maybe a protein bar during the day.
No mukbanging.
No.
Is it like OnlyFans mukbanging?
I'm sure there is. There's gotta be.
I've never been on OnlyFans and everything about OnlyFans makes me sound like I want to be on
OnlyFans. Like everything's there. I've never been on the website.
Do you think there's some people who have, that's a sexual gratification to watch those videos?
I gotta imagine that's the only thing, right?
Like why else would you do it?
Yeah, they're called feeders.
Oh, okay.
But I thought maybe it's just the freak show aspect
that you're just interested to see
how much this person can put away.
Maybe, but I'm not gonna pay 4.99 a month
just for a freak show aspect.
Like I gotta be getting, yeah.
On OnlyFans, yeah, but I think these people are readily available on TikTok.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, they're on TikTok, YouTube, that kind of stuff.
Right.
I think OnlyFans is like gainers and feeders.
Gainers is people putting on weight?
Yes.
They want to put on weight.
So chub chasing like type thing.
And then the other feeders are the people who encourage it, you know, and get off on it.
Yeah, there's a whole, what would it be?
A subreddit?
Get them?
Oh, subgenre?
No, I mean on Reddit.
Oh yeah, there's definitely a subreddit for it.
I've seen girls that are thin and they're like, look at all my progress.
They're like, maybe 120 pounds in one picture and then 220 pounds in the next one.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah, and they're like, look how great I'm doing because they want to put on...
They just want to plump up. Yeah, they they're like look how great I'm doing and because they want to put on this one to plump up
Yeah, they want to plump up for the well for the dollars. I'm not here to judge anybody
Go get it girls
Go get it if you at least you're getting paid to do it, right?
You know what? I guess there's one positive like if you're gonna do it anyway, it's gonna happen
You might as well get paid to do it. Well, I saw that Lily Allen, the singer, was saying, I don't know why the fuck I saw it,
was saying that she makes more money, not that she's current and like, you know, I don't
know if she put that, but she says she makes more money off of, she has an OnlyFans feed
account and she goes, I get over 8 million streams a month on Spotify and I still make
more off Only only fans foot photos
Which is nuts how much of people paying for the week just goes back to it
Like is that just easy money man get him. Could you be rocking a an only fans foot account?
The gnarlier the better yeah our males getting a lot of
The gnarlier the better. Are males getting a lot of muller by showing off body parts?
I would think it's more predominantly a female thing.
I don't know, man.
We found that website that had my feet on it, remember?
It was chopped up for the public consumption.
Do you think that people subscribing know what percentage are male, you think, to anybody's
OnlyFans?
Oh, non-kink specific I would say.
Kink specific.
Oh, kink specific I don't know because women are kinky freaks.
They can get into that shit.
Well, they pay for it though.
The idea being women don't have to pay for it generally?
I don't know.
I would think there'd be room for a wider woman margin on the freak show stuff
But I think like straight-up only fans just tits and like stuff. It's yeah, it's like 90 something percent dudes
I think it's high 90s. Yeah, it's gotta be but I you know, I've known a lot of fun girls
Oh, look at this, but she's pregnant. No that goes on pregnant
Yeah, that's that's an example of a good example.
Fit to fat.
Fit to fat?
Well, she's not that fit to begin with.
But yeah, wow.
Hey, you know, I don't like it myself.
It's unhealthy, though.
I don't dig it.
Look, man, but half the shit I do is unhealthy.
I can't really.
Holy fucking shit, that girl is big.
That's really unhealthy looking. That's AI. That is big. That's really unhealthy looking
That is AI that's not real. Holy fuck. I don't believe it. Okay, you're a sucker
Fall for anything. I think when I was younger I
would have made fun of of
Chubb Chasers like in my 20s, but the older I get the more I'm like, hey man. I
Get it change older I get, the more I'm like, hey man, I get it. Do you exchange?
I get it.
It's not for me still.
It's not for me still, but it's not, well, it's like I dated girls that were not that
big, but like, you know, plump girls.
And you know, I always kind of liked it, but like that's a level of, that's a level of
big, that's like, I don't know.
Well, that's like morbidly obese.
Yeah, but there were guys that just fucking loved that.
Which is, hey, but that's what I'm saying.
I'm like, hey man, go for it.
Go for it.
I was watching, I'm done with it now.
Love after lockup and there's a guy there who's like,
he looks like the size of Jimmy.
And then he has this massive wife like that he's super into.
And it is, it's weird.
It's like there's somebody for everybody.
Trevor Burrus I had a teacher in high school whose wife was really big and he always would
make fun of her but he would be like, nah, you put her in black pumps by the pool and
she looks like a goddess.
He was taking this to his class.
This was sucking great.
Is this an all-boys school? He was taking his students class. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was fucking great.
Was this an all-boys school?
Yeah.
Catholic.
Is he still teaching, you think?
All these guys back when I went to that school were all like, retired cops and firemen.
They were not real teachers.
Oh, they didn't even have the credentials to teach?
Yeah, they did.
They did.
But it was guys who were like like just retired from the police department.
Like, you know, these fucking Skrills and these Porkers, like shit like that. It was great. It was the greatest.
I don't know, this is so funny. I love those guys. But, yeah.
Wow.
I just got a note from Sage's teacher.
Uh-oh, anyway.
Tomorrow is National Down Syndrome Day, so I told Sage it's her day. It's all about her and she told me she's going on vacation.
Going on vacation?
Where's she going?
I don't know.
I don't know.
She has a lot of weird ideas about, like she, I just had to buy her prom bid, which was,
I can't remember like her prom bid, like, you know, when you go to the prom.
Yeah, you have to like pay to go to the prom.
Okay. Yeah, I don go to the prom. Okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
Right.
Okay.
So it was a hundred bucks to go to the prom and she's still, she's still.
What do you get for a hundred bucks?
I think it just get in.
Food.
Okay.
Because it's a caterer.
I couldn't remember.
Did we eat dinner?
Yeah.
Okay.
I thought we did.
I was, I was trying to remember.
I told Mary Beth.
Yeah.
We were at the Chalamard on Staten Island was where I remember.
Oh, I remember Chalamard. Yeah, Chalamar.
It's a Chinese supermarket now.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it's weird.
But she told me she's still insisting that James Charles is going to go to the prom with
her.
Okay.
And I'm not exactly sure how to tell her.
Prince James is still in the picture?
No, this is James Charles.
Prince James is in the past.
He's in the rear view.
Oh, he moved on.
This is James Charles who's a very well-known YouTuber. He has like 17 million
subscribers.
I thought this was a real kid in her class.
Is he in the mukbang?
No. He's definitely not in the mukbang. He's a super effeminate gay guy that she can't
... Obviously, she doesn't know the difference.
She loves him.
She loves him. She thinks he's cute.
When are you going to have that talk though to let her know that?
Probably after the prom.
He didn't come?
What a jerk.
He said he was on his way.
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly how to get certain things through to her.
I didn't go like, hey, he doesn't like girls.
Well, that's what I'm just trying to be like,
he lives far away. He lives in LA. He's very busy. I don't know if he's going to have time. Plus
she's like, he's my man. I'm like, he's not your goddamn man. What are you talking about?
I love it. I love it. Oh, it's crazy. It's all day as soon as she gets home.
It's not stuff like her. This guy?
No, well, her talking to herself, her doing her makeup because for Christmas she got an
official James Charles makeup palette.
Oh, wow.
So she's super into that.
Oh, this guy.
I think you said this guy was a YouTuber.
He is a YouTuber.
And he puts out his own makeup?
He sells stuff, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's pretty well known.
Okay.
Yeah. But I'm not exactly sure how to get it across to her that he's not going to be there.
And you're going to have to probably hang out with your lame friends.
Some of them literally lame.
Yeah, that's not an insult.
It was a description.
I want to see Broadway play. Well, did I tell you about this?
No, I don't think so.
And Juliet?
Oh, yes.
I'm not familiar with that.
It's the story. It sounds on paper like something that's like the absolute last place I would
ever want to go.
Is it romance?
It's more of a female empowerment thing where it takes place at the opening night of Romeo
and Juliet and Shakespeare's there and his wife Anne Hathaway is in town and she hears
the ending that, no, not the actress, like his wife's name was actually Anne Hathaway.
Oh, God damn it.
Yeah, I know, believe me, it would've been great.
And she decides she doesn't like the ending.
Why is Juliet killing herself?
Like, you know, that's not her choice. She should go on to live a life and you know, then it's about like
Juliet doesn't kill herself. She goes to Paris to become her own woman
This is kind of like wicked like like a different spin on a classic story
It is and it's all the songs are like pop hits.
It's like Jukebox musical.
It's all songs you know by this one guy who wrote so many hit songs.
It's all like, on paper, it's like the last place I would ever want to be.
It was fucking awesome.
It was so much fun.
Really?
Yeah.
It was fucking dope.
I can't recommend that, Julian, enough.
I was going to say, how much did you regret going?
It seems like, I don't know. Dude, it was hilarious. It was literally was going to say like how much did you regret going but it seems like...
Dude, it was hilarious. It was literally like I was like I cannot believe how much I'm loving
this play.
So now would you say you have a different perspective on sisters doing it for themselves?
I think I do. Yeah. Well, they did this thing where they were also like...
Oh, Lord. One play. Let's all talk.
I was playing why? They did the thing.
49 years of cultivating a Staten Island. One play.
They made it funny. It wasn't over. They weren't banging you over the head
like everything they were going for was presented in like a
comedy pill
And it was pretty fucking funny. Like I enjoyed it man. I yeah, you know, and I made me rethink about some of my stances
You know, they snuck in a lesson without me even knowing well, that the key. I think I walked out man, and I was just like man
I gotta I gotta be a better person
But they didn't try they didn't tell me to be a better use the use the feather to tuck in your funny bone
Right in the hammer to bash in your skull. Yes. Yeah, that was it exactly right so they tricked him
It was all non-binary. They stuck the landing.
The BQ just turned 50 and still learning new things. Love it.
49. Don't age them too much.
Give me the year. It was great. I might go see it again. If you wanted to go, well...
I'm going to Broadway next month. What are you to go well, I'm going to Broadway next month
We're gonna say I'm going to see stranger things. Oh
That got here that came. Yes. Oh, man
Yeah, that looks a little bit. I don't I don't expect to be any to learn anything, right? And I don't want to I just want
To see cool shit. I want to see fucking yeah demonoid monsters dancing and yeah
see fucking demonoid monsters dancing and bald girls, you know. Oh, is it about 11?
Making people levitate and blood coming down her nose.
I hope there's a lot of blood.
Yeah.
I knew it was going to be singing, but I can't do it.
Oh, it's a musical?
I assumed it was.
How else could you do it?
I mean, I would expect it's got to be a musical, right?
I don't know.
That seems like a strange marriage of properties, but maybe.
Well, it's back to future musical?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
King Kong was a musical. Spider-Man was a musical.
Yeah. Yeah. But there are a lot of plays that are musicals.
Well, I didn't know that.
Yeah. We went to see-
Is Harry Potter a musical?
Larry David.
Yeah. Larry David on the roadway, the 12 anger men that you want to
go see as a musical. I don't think Harry Potter was a musical, but it could be wrong.
So there are plays.
Okay. Everything, anything I've seen always has some people singing and dancing in it.
So which, which is nice, you know? Yeah. I'm down.
Just says theater production. Yeah, I don't think it's musical.
What, the Stranger Things?
No, Harry Potter and the First Child.
Yeah, I don't think Harry Potter is.
You know what?
I mean, look, I'm not going to be upset if there's no singing and dancing in it.
As long as there's some blood in it and some monsters, I'll be satisfied.
How are they going to bring that show back at this point, do you think?
Stranger Things?
Yeah, where everybody's like in their mid-twenties.
They got to do a time jump, right?
Time jump.
Time jump.
They have to.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don be satisfied. All right. How are they going to bring that show back at this point, do you think? Stranger Things?
Yeah, where everybody's like in their mid-twenties.
They got to do a time jump, right?
It's a time jump.
Time jump.
They have to.
I mean, it feels like it's been off the air for over a decade.
Yeah, it really feels like the last time I watched it was a while ago.
Probably was, right?
I can't wait for it to come back.
I think this is it though, right?
This is the final season.
The final season, yeah.
I'm looking forward to it.
I definitely want to see how it all ties together
I wonder if it'll be as fun when they're not kids though, you know
Like if they're adults and they're still fighting the same monsters and shit
Yeah, I don't ever think like that to me. I feel they've
The writers have done a good pretty good job making me care about the characters whether they're
You know not teenagers or they're late teens and now they'll be in their 20s.
Right.
Yeah, as long as it's well written, I think it's cool.
Yeah. As long as they also give Will Byers another haircut,
because that thing they had him in last season, that bowl cut was fucking,
I felt so bad for that actor. I was like, oh, it just looks weird, man.
Yeah, I remember that. He wasn't in it that much from when he was.
Yeah, I was just like, mmm, you could have updated that haircut for the poor kid.
So it says it's a play, not a musical.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
Fuck, man. I was – my whole ensemble I was going to wear was for a musical. Now I'm
going to have to –
Well, maybe –
Now we have to get a different –
One day you're going, maybe there's a man named Ben Julia. I can come meet you.
Next month. I don't know what date it is. It's a Saturday.
Are you conflating Str things with Rocky our picture show?
Have you much in daredevil I have I have yeah that smile says to me you're enjoying it
Are you I have us? I'm starting to have some complaints.
That smile was lingering after Ann Juliet.
Yeah, that was Ann Juliet.
Joy going away.
I mean, look, that was a good scene with Frank Castle, I thought.
Internet loved it.
The internet blew up over the scene with Frank Castle.
I thought it would have been better if that was just the first scene and then there was
another scene where Frank Castle was the punisher killing people, you know what I mean?
I thought it was just like the intro to him being back.
Now is that it for Frank Castle?
No, no, fuck away.
No, in this series?
Is that the only time you were going to see him?
I don't think so.
I think they're setting up those cops as like...
I don't think they...
I'm surprised because I don't think they want to touch Frank Castle with a 10-foot pole
I don't think they want to show him blowing away bad guys. They got it
I just don't think it's time to take you can't the Punisher is a great fucking character with a long history that people love
You can't give him up to fucking like right-wing nutjobs. You can't you have to keep them in the show
Why do right-wing people not like Frank Castle? No, they love him
Line flags with the Punisher
I don't necessarily have a problem with that. But I you know, there are some people that are you know tail too far. Yeah
So I don't think you can let them have it man. I
Think that you're going to see a neutered Frank Castle. Well, we already saw that with the series.
We were running around with a teenage girl and never wearing the Punisher symbol.
That's still more testosterone that you're going to see from Disney, though.
That was Netflix.
But what's the point then?
You can't – I hope not.
I mean, maybe you're right.
Maybe they'll do it again with the feather.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe they'll do it again with the feather
Maybe they'll chuckle your funny bone with Frank Castle Well, I know like everybody of a certain fucking type jerks off all over themselves about that scene in the comic book where Frank like
Confronts the cops with the symbol where he's like you were a cop you took an oath
I'm not take that off and he rips it off of it shit like that
I'm just hoping they don't translate that to the fucking series, but I have a feeling they will.
Overall, though, I just think Daredevil is like,
if you're gonna make a show called Daredevil,
he's gotta be in it more than 10 minutes
of the first four episodes.
Yeah, that's where I'm like, come on, guys,
we gotta start.
It really feels like they've missed the ball
and they have not
Maybe there's a budget thing and they're just saving the action for the second
No, I'm saying
Just a small-time production company
Only cost 2,000 against her the park
No, but they announced their announcer doing you know how they did werewolf by Night? Yeah. They're doing a Punisher one.
A one-shot?
Yeah.
So it's like somebody over there clearly is hoping that they can get a handle on that
character.
I don't think so.
I will be shocked if you see the Punisher that you remember from the comics that you
know and love.
Yeah, I'm just holding out hope.
They have done everything to try to destroy that Punisher in the comics.
Yeah, they sure have.
And I really doubt there's any people in Hollywood who are going to bring back Frank
the way that…
I'm hoping there is I'm hoping because I because only because I know
So many people in this tree and I know they're real feelings
And a lot of them are like I just can't fucking wait till we could start like doing fun shit again
So it's like somebody's got to peek their head out and be like, you know what?
We're gonna we're gonna make the Punisher fucking a killing machine killing bad guys
Why can't they do it?
What do you think the reason?
The whole thing with the cops adopting the Punisher. Yeah
I think that was okay for years, but I think like some like white supremacy groups started using in shit
And then you're like come on guys. Why do you got to pick the Punisher? Fucking hell, man. I love that Punisher t-shirt I have.
I don't know. I feel like it's...
Can you not wear it anymore, you feel?
You've had to hang it up in the closet for another day?
I feel like I can start wearing it now. That's what I'm saying.
On iJ?
Yeah. No, no. It's a Marvel one. I can't wear a Marvel one on.
If he was DC though, I would wear it.
Really?
Yeah, I would.
I was going to say, I have an old Leonard Skinner shirt with a rebel flag on it.
Can I start wearing it again?
Is it done forever?
I don't even know where it is anymore.
I might fold that one and put it back on the drawing.
I might give that to Goodwill.
Yeah.
Let somebody else deal with it.
If you lived in Georgia, I'd be like maybe, but in the North, we don't know. I might give that to Goodwill. Yeah. Let somebody else deal with it.
If you lived in Georgia, I'd be like, maybe.
But in the North, we understand that to be only one thing.
Right.
And I don't feel strongly enough about Rep and Leonard Skinner, too.
No.
But the punisher, I don't think it's fair that he's taken from us.
So that's the stance I'm going to hold.
Well, yeah. I mean, you're going to have to get, make your voice a lot more louder if
you want to punish her back that, you know, that you love. You might have to get a little
bit more vocal, a little bit more online presence to, you know, take it too late.
Then I'm not doing it. You've got to make your voice heard. Yeah. It's one thing to
like wear a Punisher t-shirt.
It's another thing to argue with people online who are like, you're a bad, evil,
vile punisher.
You can't like Punisher.
How dare you like something that I don't like?
That type of thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who wants to have those conversations?
But in public and somebody was like, what's that?
I would be willing to be like, you know, it's a great character and you know, I don't want to.
Yeah. I, you know, I subscribe to the mindset and I feel it's done it so much for me. My
one, my mental well health is like, you know what, man, those comics, they're still on
my shelf. Yeah. They can't take that away. They'll never, you know, it's that Punisher or, or whoever we're talking,
whatever character it is that Hollywood
has destroyed or neutered or.
Sure.
Just bastardized and you know, they lost
the character's soul.
It really doesn't change anything because
that the original material is still there.
You're right.
Yeah. Yeah. That's why you have to look there. You're right. Yeah.
That's why you have to look at any kind of remake.
Yeah, Star Wars, anything.
Yeah, but you have to be like, you have to remind yourself, yeah, like it still exists,
they're not taking anything away. They're adding to but...
They're just ruining.
Yeah, they're just wrecking everything.
I talk Sunday Jeff off the ledge, seemingly monthly about Star Wars.
I have to remind him. Still, he's still holding on hope he isn't giving up like everybody else. I talk Sunday Jeff off the ledge seemingly monthly really about Star Wars
Furious at times it's like he's a madman wide-eyed and frothing at the mouth about what they did the Star Wars I have to be like those three movies are still there. Yeah
Don't take it away
Don't take it away
You know, it's only about time for they overdub it and make it illegal for me to watch
They hear me say, Greedo shot first. Not at all.
He's the most passive, completely like, oh, Star Wars still sucks?
Oh, well.
Yeah, I do.
I am home for the Punisher, though.
Well, maybe not this version of him, but, woo-wees.
So what did the original vision of Daredevil Reborn, what could it have been if they scrapped
it and the guy who plays the Punisher was like, no, I'm not going to be involved in
this show.
Oh, is that what happened?
Yeah.
And he said, I'm out.
I'm not going to be, I don't want the gig.
And they rewrote stuff and said, okay, we're going this direction now. And then he came and decided to come back.
He stood up for the character?
Yeah.
Oh, fucking dope, man.
That's what I'm hearing online.
Now, I don't believe anything I read online.
But so it could be complete and utter bullshit, but apparently he said he declined and said,
no, thanks, but no thanks.
I won't be the Punisher and Daredevil Reborn.
But then agreed to do it after he got some rewrites.
Ah, fucking makes me love that guy. I won't be the Punisher in Daredevil Reborn, but then agreed to do it after he got some rewrites.
Ah, fucking makes me love that guy.
That's awesome. What's his name, Baranthal? John John Baranthal.
Yeah, oh, that's so good to hear, man. Somebody who actually loves, like, the fucking character they're playing and stuff, like, that's pretty great.
Yeah, that's apparently, that's what happened. But what could that original Daredevil been?
I think we're seeing bits and pieces of it. I don't think they scrapped everything. Maybe it's that scene I described where he goes up to the cops and he's like, you can't
do that!
Wag, wag, wag, wag, wag, wag.
Maybe they were doing that.
Who knows?
Yeah, but there's a lot of courtroom drama in Daredevil, man.
A lot of like boring talking heads.
Fisk and his wife.
Yeah, but at least Fisk and his wife paid off in the last few minutes where you're
like, oh, he is still a fucking monster.
You know?
Did you like that?
I would rather that than him be a fucking-
It seems so comical and seems so unrealistic though of that's what he did to his wife's
lover.
Sure, but the alternative is that he didn't do anything to his wife's lover?
I think we both know it's unrealistic to keep a man captive for not centuries.
But it's comic books. That's where I'm like, it's comic books.
I would have liked to have just seen that he beat him to a, you know.
I thought he was going to cut his hands off. When she said that shit about his hands, I
was like, oh fuck, this guy's going to show up with two fucking pirate hooks in his hands
by the fourth episode. Yeah. It's a little, this episode I was hoping for a little bit more Daredevil.
Yeah, just a fleeting glimpse of the costume. Well, we did see it hanging up in a closet
–
Yeah, we did.
– along with a Leonard Skidder shirt and a Punisher t-shirt. That's all we saw in
the Daredevil costume, hanging up in a closet.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll get there.
I hear about these shows that you guys watch and I'm like, all right, I don't want to
be on the same page as them.
But then you talk about them as if they suck.
I'm like, well, why would I fucking bother?
Well they're still, Matlock though, that's still kicking butt.
Matlock is still going strong.
New episode tonight.
Yeah.
Where we're, me and Gidim are now, we make appointment viewing
for television.
We haven't done that since we were kids.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
We text each other if it's over.
Oh, all right.
Asking questions.
What sort of questions?
Like, what did this mean?
What did this mean?
Did they bring this up in an earlier episode?
OK.
That kind of, yeah.
Oh, all right.
That's great.
Trying to guess what's going to happen in the next three episodes.
Did you guys watch Reacher?
Did we talk about this?
No.
No.
Reacher?
Never watch Reacher.
Car boys.
Watch Reacher, man.
Go watch Reacher.
It's on Amazon.
It's on its third season.
It's about a guy who, he's a military vet who just-
Is it based on the-
Books.
Tom Cruise?
No, those are based on a book.
Okay.
And it's just this military guy and he's played by this fucking beast of a fucking
man.
Um, and he just walks the lands, fucking using his skills to fight crime and, and
beat the shit out of fools.
And you're like, Oh, this is awesome.
And yeah.
And like, he's so big and intimidating that like, it's great.
Cause in the show people go to star fights with them and then they'll just look at them and they'll just like cower
away and shit like that.
It's like old school fucking ass kicking like it's great.
It's legitimately great.
It's called Reacher.
Reacher, Jack Reacher is his name.
Jack Reacher.
Yeah.
And I've been enjoying the fuck out of it.
Is it, did you ever see Banshee?
Love Banshee.
Was it, is anything like Banshee? Oh dude, it's not as like Banshee is over the top. Right. Banshee is like a live action
comic book. Yeah. Banshee is over the top in a great way. This is a little bit more
grounded, but you know, it's playing in the same kind of like an unstoppable force comes
to town and just, you're going to get your ass. If this guy sets his sights on you, like
you're fucked. God damn it. Just straight up fucked. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-oh. What's the matter?
No, he just went dead for...
Didn't he?
No, he went dead for...
Oh.
It's still going. Yeah.
So I'm just blowing a reach here. I mean, people can fill in the blanks, I guess, but
thank you.
Yeah, I can hear you fine.
And I started reading... This is a little pop culture episode. I love this. I started
reading a new series of books.
Oh. Yeah, called Dungeon Craw of books. Oh, yeah called a
Dungeon crawler Carl. Have you heard of this? I
Think I heard about it from Brad
Chuck's co-host it seems like you they would enjoy it my buddy Nick Nick Juvenet. He you know
sent it to me for my birthday and it's a it's a book about like
this galactic race of aliens who basically force
like this galactic race of aliens who basically force humans into a Dungeons and Dragons game. And it's about this one guy who's kind of like a knucklehead and his pet cat gets sucked
into the dungeon and the cat gets its intelligence upgraded. So it's this guy and his ex-girlfriend's
cat fighting its way through this fucking Dungeons and Dragons type world. But it's
really funny, really cynical. And there's seven books for each layer of the Dungeons a new book
Oh, it is so much fun, man. It's like it's like
like he goes in he's wearing boxer shorts and
He hates that he's wearing boxer shorts so much that the game keeps giving a magical boxer shorts that he has
Like the stats he gets by wearing the boxes are just too good to pass up
So like the whole game he's just running around are just too good to pass up. So like
the whole game he's just running around in hard covered boxer shorts with this fucking
talking cat. It's almost like, like you could say young Bruce Campbell playing playing the
part like a like a like a knucklehead type thing where that's going to I'm loving it.
Man, I finished the first book in a day and a half. I'm like a camera already started
reading the second one. Yeah. Dungeon Crawler Carl, man. No lessons. Well, no, not a single lesson to be learned in the book. Just fun.
It sounds like it's soon to be a motion picture. I fucking hope so. I hope so. Yeah. Like to
recommend that to the audience. Dungeon Crawler Carl. Dungeon Crawler Carl. Wonder what I
would recommend to the audience. Please. Me undies.
Yeah. Damn straight. Me undies, you're right.
Did they give you a magical, do they have magical stats?
Yeah, they should do a crossover with Dungeon Crawler Carl and do like magical boxer shorts.
I don't think they do boxer shorts, do they?
Yeah, he just went out again. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know what's going on.
Maybe it's this. One, two, one, two, three, one, two, three.
I can hear you.
Yeah.
It's weird.
Just dips out for like a millisecond.
Yeah.
That's not like anything I'm saying is fucking important anyway.
What I'm saying is important though.
Because the thing about being a guy is we're pretty much stuck with what
we've got appearance wise male makeup.
What to go?
I'm not going to read all this stuff.
That's not true.
Sage's boyfriend wears makeup. It's true. Yeah. That's why I can't read this shit. I'm not going to read all this stuff. That's not true. Sage's boyfriend wears makeup.
It's true.
Yeah.
That's why I can't read this shit.
I don't want to lie.
A Peck push-up bra?
What would the bros say?
If you saw your bro wearing a Peck push-up bra, would it bother you?
At this point, nothing.
Nothing my bros do.
Meggings that accentuate this caboose wall.
You could use that. Yeah, I definitely could. My caboose needs some uplifting.
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Yeah. You're not supposed to be wearing meggings.
What? Why would they mention kids?
Because meggings that accentuate your male caboose and they don't want to
see, they don't want kids seeing it, I guess.
That is weird.
Are you sure you're reading the right copy?
Let me see.
Hold on.
Oh wait, no, this is, this is my diary.
No, it's on there.
I'm telling you.
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What's going on here?
What's happening?
Hmm. Yeah. What's going on here? What's happening? It might just be the output. Yeah, but you heard me die on yours.
Yeah, definitely.
So it can't just be the output.
All right, well.
Well, anyway.
I thought you meant that Ed was dying and I agreed.
I got to bring up kids again.
Hold on.
Uh, versus when you say it gives you the appearance of a major package.
Right now.
Yeah.
What happens though, when those me on these come off and that package isn't
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But have you ever been disappointed you know when you when you got a bra off
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Right.
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If they just had the Punisher
Fighting the mafia. I think they can get away with that
I think it's when you get into street level crimes that people are like
Hey, man, maybe nobody should be nobody should be blowing away a mugger.
But I think if you set up like the mafia,
I think you could still do it.
I think nobody cares about seeing a bunch of guineas
getting blown away by the punches.
I think you're wrong.
I think that's why Sopranos towards the end
was getting a lot of criticism.
And that was before the internet went bat shit crazy.
And there were still people who were like,
this is absolutely offensive to Italian Americans.
When the Supreme House first came out, that's what it was.
I think the internet is louder now than it was back then.
For sure.
Yeah, but I think you could still get away with it.
You could throw the Irish mafia in there every once in a while.
I think the Russian mafia is fine.
Russian mafia is a great one.
Yeah, if you work with organized crime, I think you'd still get away with this.
Yeah. Yeah. It's just, you know, I think you still get away with this. Yeah.
Yeah. It's just, you know, everybody's going to start wiping their eyes and crying if it's
like a drug dealer on a street corner. Then you got to worry about what happened.
Yeah, well, he broke. What happened to his life?
He was just supplying the drugs. You don't know his name.
But like, you know, a guy in a $3,000 suit with a pinky ring.
Who's also selling drugs?
Blow him away. Blow him away. Like you know a guy in a $3,000 suit with a pinky ring who's also selling drugs blown away
Yeah, Russian mafia tracksuits you get away with all that stuff
Okay, and and that's not selling out the character
because like that was his main focus for for a long long time was mafia.
And only one case was just he's only Manucci remember like yeah he's only gonna go after
Russian mobsters. I think I do think you know I would Italian
and Irish so yeah. Not Ukrainian.
No no no no no no's, let's not be idiots
about this. Let's, you know, we're trying to, we're trying to get points on the board,
get them, not make a statement. You want to get the show, you know, made. Yeah. Ukrainian
mafia. Yeah. No, I think you do it. Or you know what? Have them just shoot rubber bullets
and not kill anybody. It's no big deal.
Nobody wants to see that.
I'm fine with that.
Where's the punishment?
Or do it like they used to do it in like the old Marvel comics where the gang was like
a white guy, a Puerto Rican guy, a black guy, an Asian guy.
I think you're playing with fire.
Yeah?
Yeah. I think, oh, you could probably get away with your kooza still. They just got
to be really well dressed. I think if they're well dressed, they can do
it.
In a post-COVID world?
John Wick's still out there doing it, bro. He's fighting Russians. I think he'd still
do it.
I just think give him rubber bullets.
He's not punishing anybody.
Yeah, that's like ET where they're like, instead of guns, give him flashlights.
No, no, no. That's what he used to do in the comics. When he used to take out people like he didn't want to kill him he shoot him with rubber
Sure when he had to assault like a cop station or something like that. He put a rubber bullets. You're gonna hit with a rubber bullet
No, I don't think it's fun. But it's like I also like him free to commit crimes. You want a serious punishment?
From the publisher on your face from a rubber bullet
I think if they hit Don Corleone in the face with a rubber bullet, he's still out there.
It'd blow his eye out.
Yeah, but the next day he's still doing things though.
He's still out there doing it.
It'd blow the other eye out.
Okay, we're getting closer.
He'd blow an eye for an eye.
Yeah.
I don't know, they killed his kids though.
You're not going to have to use rubber bullets
You want to get this made Q or you honor you want to get a made at expense I I don't want to get a made of rubber bullets. I will go for the $3,000 suit
Crimes, okay that I'll do I think you still get away with that
Is that where the the nation has gone where we want to see rich people punished? Oh, yeah
I mean, I mean you saw the Luigi Mangiulli.
Yeah.
What was that guy's name?
Yeah, Luigi Mangiulli.
Yeah.
I mean there was, I mean, when is that trial starting?
Oh, I don't know.
That's probably going to be a while.
That'd be very interesting.
Yeah.
I hope he represents himself.
I've seen people.
That'd be interesting.
Oh really?
Yeah, because people would be hanging on every word.
Yeah.
You know, he seems like he's very smart and articulate.
Does he?
Have you heard he's like...
Well, he went to the finest schools and everything.
He should be...
Well, they've been releasing letters that he's written to people while in prison.
Yeah.
And so...
Very articulate.
Yeah.
But you have to look at it through the lens of he's not writing those without
going to his lawyer first.
There's gotta be a movie about him coming up soon.
I would have to say there was an HBO doc.
Yeah.
Well, I'm talking about a movie though.
I've seen people with the tattoos of like, with the bullet and then the defend
deny whatever, like I've seen tattoos of that man.
Like how could you be so passionate?
It resonated, man.
People who get dicked around by fucking insurance companies, they finally saw
somebody just like, be like, fuck it.
I'm not taking this shit no more.
Right.
You know, that resonates with people who get dicked over and see loved ones
suffer because insurance companies deny them care
that may have saved their life or at least didn't make their final year's agony.
Dude, I want to fucking shoot somebody because they don't cover my whole cortisone shot.
I can't imagine these people who are like, yeah, they've paid in their whole life.
They're like, oh my God, now I'm sick.
And they're like, sorry.
I mean, what pieces of shit.
I suppose when they're making billions of dollars of profit, it's like, oh my God, now I'm sick. And they're like, sorry. I mean, what pieces of shit. I suppose when they're making billions of dollars, it's like guys, be happy with that and help these
people out. I know it's wild. I guess that's it. Since it's privatized, it's like that's,
it's not about health and it's not about medical care. It's about money.
And you're your insurance agents who have to like the people you deal with, you're not dealing
with the big wigs who are on the board, but the people who have to relay that information,
how do they do it day by day denying and putting up red – not red tape that people have to
go through, going through all the songs and dances that they
do to make people not get the money.
Detachment.
You just detach yourself.
How can you detach?
I want to meet how you can detach yourself from that.
I want to meet the person.
It's like being a drone operator in a war.
You just have to pretend you're playing a video game or something.
Or being like a vet tech or something, just seeing sick animals constantly all day that
you have to put down or, you know.
Great.
But then there's also – but you also get on – when you're a vet tech, you also
get to save animals to offset that.
What is that person who's denying people – what are they getting at?
Where's their shot of –
That's probably your job.
That's probably your job.
You're the denying guy.
And there's arguments we made that you're helping the animals when you're putting them
down because you're reducing suffering.
So we can't really apply that to humans much as we'd like to.
So when they – what do they get their feeling of like, well, at least today I did something
good for this family?
Usually they're not.
Unless there's a – well, unless there's's department that solely denies then yes, I believe that
Their MO is to deny as much
Coverage as possible no matter what the situation is
Maximize profit. I
Don't think they're I don't think a vet tech is
Is a good comparison not in the same class
Well, I'm just saying is the detachment.
I know the detachment, yes.
I'm not saying that they're the same.
I'm just saying that's a job where you need
to develop a detachment so that you can go home
and not dwell on your day.
But at least there's some good things during the day, too.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some animal comes in and you helped it,
and it got better.
Yeah, you got to play with kittens all that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, I'm sure –
It's probably easier too because the denial person is on the phone.
They're not like across a desk from them, you know.
And it happens and it's not just healthcare.
I remember when Sandy hit all the things that they're like, oh, we're not going to cover
this, we're not going to cover that.
And we're like, what the fuck?
What do you mean?
Like we paid, we paid it, we're not going to cover this, we're not going to cover that. And we're like, what the fuck? What do you mean? Like, we paid, we never missed a payment. And now you're
like, we're not going to cover this now. But it was in the – and they tried to like,
well, it may not have happened because of Sandy.
And there's a technical term. If it was a cyclone, you would be covered. But this was
not technically a hurricane.
Yes. It wasn't water damage. It was wind damage because the wind pushed the water.
All the different verbiage that they try to use to just get out of pain.
To leave you homeless basically.
The tree was pushed down by the wind, not because the water logged the roots and made that detach.
It's so scummy. It's like, fuck you, man.
Tough job.
Are they for those guys have to deny?
Because I'm sure they're not getting paid all that great of money either.
Right.
And they're just doing a job.
But what a shitty job.
Well, soon they'll all be replaced by cold heartless AI to tell you that they're not
giving you your payment.
So I don't know whether it's better or worse. That's poignant.
It's called going downhill. The more I hear about this AI, the crazier it is.
Do you think it would replace you?
I'm too old. And what are they going to replace? Dick around on a fucking hidden camera show?
Like they'll talk about a worse use of fucking computing power. But I think I'm just too
old.
Trillions of dollars put into research to make.
I take another season.
I'm sure we're cheaper.
I just saw the new Boston Dynamics video where like the robots doing cartwheels and shit
and yeah.
Yeah I think I'm too old.
I think it's kids in there.
But then again the direct market YouTube I think it's kids in there. But then again, the direct market, YouTube,
I think that is going to be the future. Direct to consumer type stuff. People still have
that outlet, but yeah, man, like, hey, I was just going to wipe the board clean. It's going
to be great, get them. You'll be all right, though. You won't be affected. You'll be
okay. Don't worry about it.
Well, I can't sleep on a couch like I can.
AI can't put together a couch like I can.
I can't put together a baby stroller.
That's right.
I can't spin a sign on the side of the highway.
That's right.
What great, what great jobs and options.
I mean, if I was a 15 year old kid, I'd be like, and I would, they don't have the brain
development yet to be terrified like that, but I, what the fuck's the world going to
look like in 30 years? It's crazy. Yeah. Even now you get tricked by stuff like on Twitter. I'm like, oh wait,
that's not real. Yeah. Or Instagram or something. It is, I get my Facebook feed,
because I like helicopters and stuff. I get fed like pictures of jets, but now it also thinks
that I like the military. Okay. And I just constantly get these military AI images.
Of what?
Of just like fake soldiers and stuff, like loaded onto the back of a semi trailer,
like dragging a giant American flag. And it's like, why don't pictures look like this trend?
And it's obviously AI.
But there's tons of people who are like upvoting it.
And like you look at the links and it's all old people and it's like, Oh yeah,
yeah, God bless our troops.
Stay safe.
It's, it's,
Well, even if the picture's fake, it's still the same sentiment, right?
It is, but it isn't, you know, there's, you know, there's actual soldiers out there.
Yeah.
Now it's like,
And the, but it's, the thing is that the thing is that the people don't realize that it's AI.
But I think if you look at AI now, like those 10 second clips, you could tell it's AI.
There's going to be the point where you can't tell.
Yeah, like that thing that I sent you, Walt, the picture of the magician with...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They made the the Polaroid front dimension X come to life.
Yeah.
He made this amazing.
Really?
Where were you?
Not that.
Let me see.
I have it somewhere.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
But you can still even shocking how good it looks because it makes a picture of my
daughter, Caitlin come to life and it looks like her.
Wow.
It's scary, spooky, and also like just inspiring because you're like, wow, this
is what people are going to be capable of just right now. And what will it look like
in 20 years?
It's fucking five years. It's going to be insane.
Yeah, because even like there was like when she ran away, like there was a part that you
could see disappeared into another part.
Yeah, there's blemishes and there's things like bugs in it.
But it looks so good that you're like, how is this possible?
How is this possible?
Yeah.
And that's first draft on an app.
I saw something like that.
Yeah, fuck.
Ooh wee.
Yeah.
Oh, I found out why it's so goddamn hot in this office.
Oh, what do you got?
Turns out the yarn lady has a guinea pig.
Wait, what?
The yarn lady has a guinea pig.
A pet guinea pig?
A pet guinea pig that can't be in, I guess, colder than certain temperatures.
Okay.
So all the heat gets turned up because she doesn't want him to die.
And we got to like abide by that to let Guinea Pig pass us over to the Rainbow Bridge.
Is she allowed to bring it to work like that?
I bring my dogs to work.
Well, you can't talk about getting them like that.
That's not a nice thing.
Well, she can bring her dogs to work, but you don't like, it doesn't impact anybody
else.
Like nobody else has to sit in an 80 degree office because you brought your dogs.
You know what?
I was bitching about this, but then when I found out about the Guinea Pig, I was like,
I don't know. I'll smelt her. Name Scooter pig, it's a guinea pig. His name is Scooter.
Scooter the guinea pig? Yeah. I already love the guinea. I already love Scooter. I haven't
met him yet.
You could deal with a little bit of 90 degree weather in an office. It's okay.
What are you going to do? Oh, you know, we can get another office. Just reiterating that
on the fair conditioning.
The lease is up in October. If somebody wants to go out and look for an office.
You're okay with it now?
Yeah.
I'm not doing anything.
He knows you're never going to do it.
Yeah.
But if I did, you'd be okay with it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
I'll put Helen on it.
I'm not moving anything either.
I moved it all in the first time.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the cat.
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I also want to say thanks to Kenny Rubenis.
Is that how you pronounce his name?
He raised some money for Tim doing his cartoon selling his
TSD cartoon things.
Oh, how nice.
Yeah, quite a few people are just selling stuff to help Tim out.
I think people really like Tim, right? He's kind of like a well-loved guy. That's great.
That's great.
If you haven't picked up the bonus pod on Bandcamp, search Tim the Record Star clerk benefit pod on Bandcamp.
Yeah. Nobody's been disappointed in that one, right?
No.
Yeah. It's a big one.
So how many more episodes are we going to get in before you guys go to Key West?
Well, we got next week.
Okay.
We got next week. The only way we could do it is if we did Monday of the following week.
Because we have an emergency.
He doesn't need a podcast, like a benefit podcast, but he's having a life emergency.
One of my adopted three sons, Tom.
Uh-oh.
He wants to reverse his vasectomy?
He says he's having a midlife crisis and he wanted to know if he could come in and
talk to you guys and discuss it.
He doesn't know who to turn to and it's a pretty big issue he's going through and
he thought that some of the sage-like advice that you guys have come up with over the years,
he wondered if you would
be so kind as to help walk him through this difficult point of his life.
I'd love to. Yeah, why not?
Have you guys had that yet?
I feel like Tom. With Love Crisis?
Yeah.
I think I talked about it on the show. Yeah. I get it. That grip of like I'm running out of time, I'm running out of youth, I'm running
out of energy.
I know that feeling.
I'm on the other side of it now where I'm like, ah, fuck it.
Yeah, I would say like in my mid 40s, like we were in a full blown.
I didn't realize he was as old as he is.
He still has that very youth-like appearance,
exuberance. I was shocked when he said he was 43. That's the time when he usually hits.
I think so because you start looking like, because like with the sports car thing where
like the cliche is somebody will buy a sports car. I think like you're like, well, how many more
cars am I going to own? You know? Like these-
What, in terms of your-
The rest of my life.
So it's just like-
How many more do you want to own?
How many more do I want?
I don't, like, if I'm going to get that Porsche, I don't want a Porsche, but if I'm going to
get that Porsche, it's got to be now.
Why?
Or the next car, because I'll be dead after the next car.
You're too old to drive it.
Yeah.
You can't have two cars?
You can't have two.
How much money do people have?
You know what I mean?
It's just like, I just feel like you're at the age where you have money and you're running
at a runway.
I mean, that's what it's all about.
You're running out of time.
Running at a runway.
That's good.
Yeah.
Before you launch to heaven.
Take off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's just like, even me with the DeLorean.
Does the car work? Does it work for people who, does it help ease the...
I think so.
The issues, the underlying issues of why you're feeling the way you're feeling. The car will help.
I believe the car will help.
But are there some people who, that the car really didn't help? It's like, wow, I thought the car might help, it didn't help.
Yeah, I mean, nothing's across the board, but like you're fulfilling that thing of
like, I still got it. I'm still young enough to do it. Like I do think it helps. It's
like a bank.
I still got it.
Yeah.
And what is it that you have because you have enough Moola to drive the car? I don't know.
I've never been a car guy.
Youth fight down. No, no, no. I don't think that – I don't think it's about really
the car. It has to be. At some some point it has to be about the car.
What about what a symbol is? Yeah. It's just like –
The freedom. Like you can still let the wind whip your hair.
You're still real. No. I don't think that's it. I think it's literally like if I don't
fucking make a move, I'm now in a position where I'm going to drive this fucking –
Prius. Prius for the rest of my fucking life.
And I'm running out of time to buy new cars.
It's like, this is it.
I got to do it now.
And I think that too, it's like guys hit a certain age.
And I don't know, I can't speak for him, but I think guys hit a certain age.
It's just like, am I never going to fuck like a high chick again?
Like, is that?
I think guys see, you know what I mean?
Like, they look at this-
The disbelief he said it with was awesome. Like is that? I think guys, you know what I mean? Like, they look at their wives and their aging and it's just like, have I touched the last
young hard body I'm ever going to touch?
Like it's just over, I'm just out of the sexual game for the next 40 years.
It's a tough realization.
It's fucking a horrible realization.
That's why guys fucking leave their families and shit.
Because they're like, I can't wait.
I'm just a sexless elderly thing for the rest of my life.
Who's become invisible to anybody under the age of 50.
I really hope Tom isn't listening to this episode of TSD with his wife in the car.
I'm not saying it's right. No, no, that's not what I meant.
I just want a car.
I still love you.
No, I think that's a common thing for guys, you know?
Like, you know?
Yeah, you're not...
I'm never going to fucking hotty again!
I'm only 45! How can that be?
I got to fucking one more hotty while I still can.
And I think that overrides people's brains, you know? I'm only 45. How can that be? I gotta fuck it one more time while I still can.
And I think that overrides people's brains, you know?
It totally clouds their decision making.
I believe so.
And overrides all the...
It doesn't overlook. It's a struggle.
It's a struggle.
You have to find the places where it's acceptable for you to give in to that.
Guys need that
release valve around their mid-40s.
Some guys, they're forced to get the Porsche because it's a fucking 25-year-old and you
gotta look at them anyway.
Yeah.
So thank God for the Porsche.
You gotta have something, yeah, because the Porsche is like, I have money. So if I have
money, we're gonna have fun. fun. Whereas if he's tooling around
in like a 2000 Corolla or something, they're going to make a judgment.
Oh yeah. Rolling down the window. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying
I think that's what guys go through. And I'd be interested if women go through kind of the same thing because I know women deal
with the loss of their youth and beauty.
That happens.
That happens earlier for women than guys.
I was talking to Jordan one time.
She's like, I'm done.
I hit 30.
Oh my God.
I was like, you're still gorgeous.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
That's someone who doesn't have the experience to know that, no, it gets way worse.
Way, way worse, buddy.
Yeah, 30 is nothing.
Nah.
Yeah.
Wish I was 30 again.
Yeah, well, you won't be.
What would you do differently?
What would you do if you were 30 right now?
Oh, well, the drugs would not happen.
No, no, no.
Well, if you revert to 30 right now, what would you do tomorrow?
Oh, I'm 30 right now?
Yeah.
He's this brain in a 30-year-old body?
Okay, so it's still you.
You get de-aged.
You're de-aged to 30.
I de-aged.
Benjamin Button down to 30.
Yeah, but it's still you.
I'd probably make better decisions in almost every aspect.
But you're still living with the decisions you've made.
You're still living with it. you've made. Oh yeah.
You're just 30.
It's today.
It's today but I'm 30.
You wake up tomorrow morning, your body is 30 years old.
Oh okay.
Well I probably take better care of myself, like moving forward.
I wouldn't allow myself to yo-yo with the weight and shit.
Save more money, probably.
Because you got more time.
I got more time now, yeah.
Okay no, it's still 2025.
Yeah, yeah, but he's going to live longer now.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay, are you spending money like crazy right now?
No, not now, but from 30 on, yeah.
Okay.
I spent a lot of money.
All those fucking pens and pencils you bought?
Pens I bought.
Watches.
Watches.
That was the last time you brought a high-end pen.
Oh, it's been a long time.
It was probably Comic Book Men days. Thank you. Thank you.
We've been doing the slow clap lately.
Good on you, man. Yeah.
How old were you when you were going through that pen phase?
That was probably my mid-forties.
I couldn't afford a Porsche.
The most pathetic midlife crisis ever.
Whatever it is.
This might be the last pen I ever bought.
It's not because some guys spend all their money on strippers and shit like that.
This is what I'm saying.
The pen is the positive.
I still have those pens.
I still got them.
The pen is the positive outlet.
It was a funny thing for somebody who one can't draw and one and another whose handwriting look is almost illegible
I don't know why it depends. It was really
like I would ponder like
Way more than I should have like I spent more time thinking about than any other thing at the moment
I'd be like fuck. Why would he buy triple-figure pens?
Remember I remember sending him links to, like, glass fountain pens.
Yeah, I remember that.
Stop feeding this habit.
I don't know who knew that the pen habit would have been the preferable one.
Yeah, but you never felt anything like that.
A midlife crisis?
In any form. Master Um, masterworks.
I thought you were saying masturbation.
It's like you knew.
He came in all sweaty. Of course I knew.
I thought you, that's why you thought I was sweaty too.
Um, no, no. The, you thought that my, me going full-born into spending all that money on the Masterwork
collection was a good move?
And shelving for the Masterwork said Masterwork.
You thought that was a midlife crisis move?
I'm saying it could be. It could be considered.
It's interesting that you would think that. No, it was just like...
You're trying to recapture your youth by getting the comic books of old.
Oh my God. Maybe you're onto something.
Wow.
Maybe feel more virile.
I would order a master work.
And you're right, I would be all fucking amped up
and I'd be like.
Your wife would see it in the mail, she'd be like, oh no.
Tonight's the night.
Don't you have every volume by now?
Just 300 volumes. I remember you'd be like, I got to make these drawings and sell them so I can buy that masterwork.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Wow, maybe Gittem is onto something.
But it's on the negative.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's not necessarily a negative, the midlife crisis.
It's how it's expressed.
I think Tom feels like, him reaching out though, I think it is a detriment to his psyche right
now though. I don't think he feels it's a positive
He'd like to figure a way to live with it and turn it into a positive great. Let's do that
I'll bring him over to fantasy. It'll be fine
Last time I said there was a woman eating a tuna sandwich on the stage. Last time I was there there was a pregnant lady.
I love fantasy.
I know, it's awesome.
Was there somebody eating yogurt someone?
Yeah, there was a lady eating yogurt and she had to finish her yogurt before she'd be
Frank-a-lept.
God bless fantasy, man.
I love it.
Do you remember when you said tuna, do you remember when the girl from Full House, Lori,
or the one who was married to John Stamos in the show. She
sent her kids to, she got her kids scholarship.
Oh, this is the scandal.
Lori Laughlin.
Scandal and shit, and she was facing jail time.
She went to jail.
Yeah, and the internet was like, was so against her. I wanted her to serve hard time. I just
remember one of the fucking comments I saw was priceless. Better
learn to like tuna, bitch.
Trevor Burrus I remember you brought that up on the show.
Peter Van Doren That was horrifying. If Laurie ever saw that,
she's reading the comments and like – if she saw that comment, that had to have been
like hit the most gut-wrenchinging hit the fucking center of your soul comment.
You're like, oh my God.
Trevor Burrus Is that what I'm going to be eating?
Tuna?
Trevor Burrus Tuna?
And the bitch is like the cream on the – or the icing on the cake.
Like, just like, put it on your tuna.
Bitch.
Trevor Burrus You're going to get raped in prison, bitch.
Trevor Burrus Yeah, like I can't imagine if like the equivalent
was said to me. I bet.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I hope you're wearing hot dogs, bitch.
I know.
I'm going on the run.
I have something real quick here.
It's from Tommy Lincoln.
He's doing something for Tim as well.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
If you go to, here you go.
Tommy Lincoln.
Stayfresh.design.shop.
Tommy Lincoln is auctioning off the four horsemen screens from the four horsemen bowling shirts
that are signed by me, Walt, and Q.
That Tommy Lincoln, man, never misses an opportunity to prove himself a good dude.
I like Tommy Lincoln. Yeah, I like Tommy. Good guy to prove himself a good dude. I like Tommy Linker.
Yeah, I like Tommy Linker.
Good guy.
Yeah, very good guy.
Nice kid too.
I saw this cue.
I thought you would love this if you were still in school.
High school teacher in Queensland, Australia, hold on as soon as it comes up, reportedly
identifies as a cat, flicks her hands and hisses at students.
Here we are. Here we are.
Here we are.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
Oh, is that a finger wag?
Uh-oh.
Oh, get him saying this might be too hot topic for you, bud.
This might be too hot topic?
I don't know.
It's not related.
As long as it doesn't connect it to anything else, it's just a crazy woman who thinks she's
a cat.
That's a crazy woman who reportedly asked her students to call her Miss Per.
You know what, dude, it's the first time you've been finger waged by the official finger wager.
I would just move on.
I would just show people that we're learning.
Well, if you want to Google it.
Yeah, nice.
Nice job, get them.
Yeah, we don't need Australia mad at us too.
Hey, hey, hey.
Yeah.
I think that's all I had for this week.
I have a lot of story.
You had something, Walt?
Yeah, I thought this was...
Oh, you know what?
Real quick, Walt, before you even tell your story, I know you're into Doris Day.
I am.
I just watched a Charles Manson documentary. I just watched a Charles Manson documentary and Doris Day's son,
Terry Melcher, was the one who declined. He was a record producer, declined to sign Manson. And
that's when they think his downward spiral began. Like that's when all the murder.
Yeah. That's when he got mad at society.
Yeah, but I thought it was interesting that Terry Mulcher was Doris Day's son.
I didn't know there was any relation there.
You know who Terry Mulcher is?
I had heard of him before just because of the Manson stuff because he was a producer
for the Beach Boys, I think.
I think – I don't know if she was on the – she had a good relationship with her kids.
Oh, no.
I think she left everything to her animals.
Oh, wow. and she had a good relationship with her kids. Oh no. I think she left everything to her animals.
Oh wow.
She was a complete animal activist for...
Good for her.
Once she got out of Hollywood.
I like that.
What's the name of that?
Can you pick that up?
Scooter. Scooter.
He's right around the corner over here.
Yeah?
I'd like to meet Scooter.
Yeah, see the fucking bane of our fucking.
Oh, come on. You can't blame Scooter for that.
You can blame the yarn lady.
You can blame the yarn lady.
How come?
Not Scooter.
Can you look up real quick what temperature guinea pigs are supposed to be in?
Okay.
Well, he's looking though. Somebody's asked this question for the experts, the sex experts
of Brian and Q. My husband says, I'm going goblin mode
when we start to have sex. He growls and acts like a caveman and then says, goblin mode
off when we stop. And then pretends to not know what I'm talking about when I ask him
about this. He does this every time and I want him to stop it. But when I ask him about
it, he denies he does it.
That's weird behavior.
That's a listener?
Yeah, it's a listener.
She's a husband, whoever.
Goblin mode activated.
He growls like a caveman while he's involved getting.
I have so many questions. This only started after they were married I
think it's a recent occurrence or maybe it isn't I don't know well her first option is as soon as
he she hears goblin mode activated she could be like I'm not doing it get up then she's got to
get up and put a halt to everything yeah come on like enough of the goblin mode shit. Come up with their own mode.
Like, yeah, like chastity mode engaged.
Goblin mode.
Yeah.
What does that even mean?
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
And then he's a caveman.
He's not even a goblin.
What's the matter?
I found this same email on Reddit too, from two years ago.
Really?
Somebody sent it to me.
What about Goblin Mode?
Yeah.
Really?
Oh.
Oh.
It's on copypasta.
I guess you can't believe everything you read online.
Oh, so somebody sent in me fake shit.
And we were seriously taking our time trying to help him out.
Well.
It's AI, man.
That's like, you're right, Q.
Yeah, interesting.
I can't believe anything out there.
We're giving advice for no reason. Yeah, there was there was I heard that a very popular thing online
It's a true lot true crime documentary online
That's completely fake. That's just made by AI
AI is just coming up with crime cases and making documentaries about a real line and people love them
They know they're fake, but they love them. Isn't there enough real shit out there?
Maybe it's a little less disturbing.
Hello?
Hello?
Hello?
Okay, I can hear it now.
I think it's this is getting moved.
Okay.
Maybe it's a little less disturbing if it's AI crime.
Could be, it's all fake.
Yeah.
Well, you know that there's accusations that Marvel and DC are using AI art in the comics
now.
No, get out of here.
How the fuck do they think they're going to get away with that?
I guess they could.
I mean, they don't have the protections, but-
How are you going to find it though?
If you prompt AI to make something, how do you know it's AI though?
You can't find that image because it's your image you know it's AI though? Like how does somebody, you can't find that image
because you, it's your image you prompted on AI.
Right, but they credit the artist though.
Who does, AI does?
No, no, DC, Marvel and DC.
Oh yeah, well the artist is submitting AI work as his own.
Oh, so it's the artist that are doing it.
Oh, well I'm sure that's happening, for sure.
I know that's happening with scripts.
No, for a fact. Really? know I know yeah, somebody sold the script that they did not write and
Presented it as their own it's happening. It's going on. Hey, I wrote it. Hey, I wrote it Wow, and they sold it
Crazy entirely AI or entirely AI
Okay, and then they went in and gave prompts to to to adjust it and they sold it as their own
crazy
Would they have to give the money back if I don't know what the rules are? I don't know
I wouldn't think they have to why would they have to yeah
It's not so even if they didn't come up with it
Like it's not like they can go after the person that did come up with it
If that person doesn't exist.
It's crazy. Yeah.
It's the new Wild West, bro.
It's already happening. Yeah. Nuts.
Now the idea is to find a way to capitalize on it, not just watch it destroy you.
Well my friend who told me that this happened fed one of the, he wrote an outline for a script and Fed it into AI and AI wrote a
script based on his outline. He did it just to see if it would do it and it did it.
And he was able to sell it.
No, he didn't sell it. This guy didn't sell it. The guy he knows sold it.
Okay.
Now if you do that, would you consider how much changes would you have to make to it
to be that you would consider? To personally feel like you have to make to it? To be that you would consider personally feel like okay, so I was comfortable. I wouldn't want to do any of it
But if I did I think you got to do a total rewrite using that as just like a first draft
Then I'd be like alright, I guess at least you read it like how much how much extra padding or?
Changing could you make to it then you would feel you saw about me to feel comfortable
I would have to have the script next to me
and rewriting it in my own fucking words,
word for word, page for page,
to even feel comfortable enough to be like,
this is mine, but I don't think that's right either.
Like, I don't, where's the joy in that?
Like, where's the fun in, like,
the reason that I do shit is because.
The money.
Sure, yeah, I guess.
See, like, let's say you're having, like're having writer's block or you're having trouble figuring out how to
go from point A to point B. You feed it into AI and it actually gives you the inspiration
and then you flush it out even more.
It gives you a framework.
You're like, okay, that makes sense.
Now I'm going to flush it out.
You're making a good argument. I don't know. I don't know where the line is. Honestly, I wouldn't want to do that myself
I only like to do things that I feel like I want to do
You know what I mean? Yeah, but if I was writing the 800th episode of lawn honor
Just anything that I'm doing on my own, I wouldn't want to do.
I think here's where it might be useful if I'm like, like I said, I want to write a sci-fi
comedy type of thing and I have an idea for the spaceship that the guy's in and I use
that AI to, I like I wrote like whatever this is yeah but I was like
write a yellow spaceship that's boxy in the back and it came out with something
fairly close to what I was thinking and I printed it out and put it on the wall
for inspiration while you know what I mean but like okay now that's different
to me in a way now going down that path a little further you get that initial
image yeah then you start adding in prompts.
Yes.
To change that image.
Yeah.
Does that, do you feel that is creative?
I think that is.
Yeah, look, it's not my first option, but I think that the way things are headed,
that you would be foolish to say that that's not creative.
Cause I think that's going to be a major tool going forward.
Like, yeah, like learning how to.
It's almost like, I feel that that's almost like learning how to use a brush in a different way.
Yeah.
I could see that.
I wish a goal like you, you know, you need to know what the prompt to put in
to get what you want.
Yeah.
So I, you know,
well, for me, well, it's like, I don't know how to draw and I don't know how
to do that shit.
So for like to do storyboards for myself, I don't think I have a a problem with that but to do artwork of Batman hitting the Joker and sell it to DC
I'm like, uh, uh
Doesn't sound like why did you get into the game?
Like what are you doing? So, I don't know. It's a weird one, man. It's a fucking it's a thorny issue and and you know
I don't know I can see like if you're like I I'm you're trying to imagine something in your head like
Someone getting hit in a certain way. Yeah, and then you pull up a prompt and then you use that as yeah
I don't know. I don't know
I'm not saying trace it or submit it directly but like you're like, okay
Like like a reference for yourself to yes. Yes. I asked wall. Yeah, that's a question. I would think that
As long as you're not taking that image and just like and you're taking it And not tracers or doing anything to it and submitting it
Yeah, I don't see how it helping you see and something from an angle. You can't replicate maybe in the real world. Yeah, that's
Yeah, I would think it's a tool that would be used to our benefit
They have those what is it those wooden little figures that you can hear move so that you can kind of like...
Yeah.
Or people watch movies where they look for scenes in movies that are created by CGI and
it's the same thing.
I don't know, man.
It's a fucking thorny one, man.
It's a thorny one.
I do know that nothing I ever write, I wouldn't want to ever represent a machine as myself. Yeah.
But-
I just wonder what AI, is AI producing something that is equal to a human?
Sure.
I think the answer is yes.
Don't you?
Because like, well, AI art, like you can see the problems in it.
Now?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't work those bugs out.
Yeah. Yeah. Don't work those bugs out. Yeah.
But will it?
But if I asked AI to be like, draw me a rough sketch of Batman fighting the Joker, you probably
wouldn't see those mistakes.
It could probably handle that.
Yeah, well, that's a rough sketch.
But I'm saying it.
Well, that's how this artist got why he was put under the microscope because there was
imperfections in there that he didn't remove.
Yeah, that to me is not...
Like he should have went in there and looked for all the weird little bugs that give it away and he didn't remove. He should have went in there and looked for all the
weird little bugs that give it away and he didn't.
People are against it and the people are not happy with him.
People are upset by it. Yeah, I think there was a segment that was upset by it and it's
a form of cheating, I guess. I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's too thorny an issue. Yeah.
There's too much information at this point.
Yeah.
I mean, it's nice to be able to think about it and hold both ideas in your head where
you're like, all right, it might not be the worst thing in the world, but it also might
be really bad.
You know what I mean?
To have that ability to look at both the sides is good.
With this much information, man, it makes me really think that it would be better if
we lived in the dark ages.
Yeah?
Yeah.
No window toilets and shit like that?
I think we'd be happier.
I don't know.
I don't know about that.
Ignorance is bliss?
No, give me the dark age.
The only music you hear is some dickhead down at the local tavern, like strumming a lute
or whatever.
I don't know.
All the things we don't get to deal with anymore.
I want to deal with AI.
Yeah, but no lens app, no great music.
Eh.
Eh.
How dark are you talking?
I'm talking about 15th century.
Okay, so everybody's sick from the most minor...
Flags and shit.
People are being accused of witchcraft.
Burned alive at the stake. 15th century. Okay, so everybody's sick for like the most minor... Plagues and shit. People are being accused of witchcraft.
Burned alive at the stake.
Perishing.
I'd rather have AI.
Yeah, I think it's just deal with AI.
Tell them Steve Day.