The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - 090923 TV Dads, Never Lying and Beating Up on Mr Rogers (The Adam and Dr Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: September 9, 2023

In this episode, Adam and Dr. Drew talk about how TV dads (in Adam's case) were nothing like his dad in real life...the fellas can't stand people that are "never wrong" and how they don't see Mr. Roge...rs as someone that they would have a beer with.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. I'm your host, Big Brother Jake, and we got a great one for you once again. I mean, every episode's great, or else you wouldn't be listening. Anyways, episode 509's first up, titled I Got My Nanny, that aired on February 2nd of 2017. Adam fits about how his dad is not like TV dads he grew up with and how it made him bitter and how he compared TV nannies to his own. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. What's going on, Drewsker? Let's see. I had the best night's sleep of my life last night. Really? Really. I've been having night's sleep of my life last night. Really? Really.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I've been having this sort of bowel obstruction I get since my surgery. It's that prostate surgery. I get this weird thing. I thought it was diverticulitis, but I actually think it might be intermittent bowel obstruction. And it just hits, and it just wears me out for a few days. And I can't sleep. I have pain at night. It's just a weird, fitful kind of couple days.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And then let's go. And then I sleep. Last night pain at night. It's just a weird, fitful kind of couple days. And then let's go. And then I sleep. Last night was the night I slept like a maniac. You know those nights when you wake up and you think, oh, this is just awesome. It's glorious. Sleep is so good. I don't remember experiencing that as a kid. That came later in life.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Well, it's funny. I was just having a nice conversation with my nanny, Olga, about this. Your nanny? My nanny. She's now my nanny. Interesting. It's a change. We're staying in my kitchen.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Lynette's out eating somewhere. The kids are playing video games. She's there for you. She's there grinding up my sludge for the next day and working over the coffee pot. She's my nanny. And what'd she say? Well, I was talking to her. I was...
Starting point is 00:01:49 Did she address you as Mr. Adam? Yeah. Mr. Sonny's father? Yeah. That was Miss Livingston from The Courtship of Eddie's Father. She's a nice little Japanese lady. I don't know where Livingston came in. I mean, I could understand it if it was Tashimoto or something.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Somebody's got to explain that. Maybe she was married to Mr. Livingston or something? Mrs. Livingston. Was Japanese. Was Japanese. Very Japanese. She was the... I think if you looked on Google, why was Mrs. Livingston called Mrs. Livingston, there would be an explanation.
Starting point is 00:02:24 But go ahead. She was Bill Bixby's nanny slash, you know, sort of butler because he was a single guy having to raise Eddie, I guess his kid. I think back then. People let me tell you about my best friend. He's a little boy. All right. You're pathetic. You're pathetic. All those shows made me violently angry at my dad.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I don't know. Look at him. They're playing with a kite on the beach. My dad would never do that. Everyone thinks all these things are great depictions. They really just sent me into a depression spiral because I would sit around. I like to watch Sanford and Son because there's a poor old black guy sitting on the beat-up sofa and his rack of a house. And I'd go, that looks like us.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I relate to that. When the Bradys, somehow, it always hit home with me when the Bradys would have a meeting. I don't know why. We finally found the couch they had the meetings on. Yeah. Trundle. Yeah. Mike would, or something like it. Yeah, Trundle bed. I don't know why We finally found the couch they had the meetings on Yeah Trundle Mike Brady would call No no
Starting point is 00:03:32 Bobby Peter Mike Brady would call a Brady meeting We're having a Brady meeting He would say Philly cheesesteak trying to come He just busts in He uses his nose as a weapon He's like a tank we're having a Brady meeting, he would say. Philly cheesesteak trying to come to the studio. He just busts in.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Oh, he uses his nose as a weapon. He's like a tank. He's like the battling ram they use with the LAPD head, battling ram. Oh, my God. Daryl Gates, incarnate. No, the thing about Phil is Phil uses his paws. He stands outside.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You put him outside and he picks his paw up and he bang bang bangs he doesn't do a kind of nudge or a nuzzle or a thing or bark or howl or anything he just lifts his big he has a big paw he has muscles in his forearms and shoulders and stuff and he just bangs his paw
Starting point is 00:04:20 against like a sliding door that vibrates and you have no choice you have to get up and you have to go let him in or he'll come around and bang what do you want philly and if you come around and you go the next room he'll walk outside the porch come around look through you look look through the glass at you and then bang on his on his thing okay now hold on a second the brady i don't know why the brady meetings made me as as depressed as i was but for some reason them going camping and you know marcia marcia marcia
Starting point is 00:04:57 or alice making dinner and calling everyone to the table or something well that all seemed very fantastical to me like too much i couldn't imagine it i kind Well, that all seemed very fantastical to me. Like too much. I couldn't imagine it. I kind of got that, all right, families can go camping or something like that. But the Brady meeting, for some reason, it was probably about four episodes where Mike would call a Brady meeting. And first off, it'd be him standing there. There's a whole bunch of things that were fantastic about it. First, the whole family would just show up in the one room. Carol would like put down her knitting like she'd be knitting something she put that aside mike would still be dressed from work but he had his jacket
Starting point is 00:05:33 off right but he still had the tie on of course you know sleeves cuffed up you know and you know then alice would come in and go like a coffee mr brett and she'd like pour the coffee thank you alice thank you thanks she'd kind of back out of the room. And then they'd do this thing. These problems were like, Marsha, you're getting a B plus in history, and that's not acceptable. And I was like, my sister ran away. We don't know where she is. We're living in a radon spewing shit box.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And I don't know what's going on here somebody got a b in algebra we need to talk about it we have a meeting about this and then they'd sit around they're like bobby i'm very disappointed in you your bike was left out in the driveway the other day now i'm gonna have to ground you and like, whoa, let's lift this bike. They have a driveway. This is awesome. And it all sounded insane to me because I could never picture having a conversation with my dad that resembled anything that involved this Brady meeting. And then of course, everyone just agreeing to get along and correct whatever was going on. That was it. I don't know why. Where did Miss Livingston where did she get the name Mrs. Livingston?
Starting point is 00:06:52 It appears that it was to suggest that she had been a war bride. That's what I was thinking. She had married some guy. She was born and raised in Japan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, Mr. Eddy's father. God, that wouldn't go over well today, I don't think. War pride.
Starting point is 00:07:07 War pride. What the? Something's the matter with this country? Hey, man, simpler times. Yeah. And now they couldn't have people get divorced back then. People had to die. Oh, somebody had to die, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah, so. Brady's wife had to die. He must have been a widower. Hold on. What do you want phil phil's sitting and looking uh he must have been yep yeah you couldn't his wife helen died of course everyone had to die back then so uh the brady's were a carol brady So the Bradys were, hey, Carol Brady, you're 29. Yeah, you have three kids. Right. Husband died.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Okay. And then you, Mr. Brady, you got three kids. You're 33. What happened to your wife? She died. She was 31 and a half. So it wasn't unexpected. What a chance everyone dies.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And also, family affair both parents died oh yeah that's right buffing jody's parents died yeah you want to talk about trauma god i'm having this very strange experience with all the theme songs start playing in my head And you want to talk about insane trauma. You are twins. You're five years old. Buffy and Jody, they're like five, four, five. They're twins. Both their parents die in like a car crash.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And they get dropped off at the most surly alcoholic Uncle Bill. This guy. What was the actor's name again? Brian Keith. Brian Keith. He was also in The Parent Trap. The original Parent Trap. You know what happened to Brian Keith?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Died of alcoholism. Killed himself. Oh, well. He's one of those guys who killed himself at like 73. Yeah. You don't hear, I mean, you want to talk about that. I just hear alcohol and stuff. You don't hear, I mean, you want to talk about a- I just hear alcohol and age and stuff. You know what his, Mr. French, isn't-
Starting point is 00:09:10 Sebastian Cabot. That's right. You get dropped off at two of the most surly, uptight dudes. And it's not really clear what their situation was. You know what I mean? Little gay. They both had a little bit of something, something. They clearly weren't together the thing that was well the thing that was interesting is mr um sorry mr french yes who was not french sebastian cabot it was sort of british he was this is the shittiest
Starting point is 00:09:41 stuff well he was the guy's butler yes but the thing that's weird is the guy lived alone. Why did he need a butler? He lived alone in Manhattan. In a tiny apartment. Not tiny. He was a confirmed bachelor. Yeah. And he lived in this apartment in Manhattan and he was like a doorman and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:10:00 He had to stay super wealthy even though it's a small space. He was like a successful architect or something. And I don't know why he needed a full-time living dude. But he'd come in like, French, give me some coffee. I had a long night.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I said, I'll be right here, mister. So that was a weird conceit. Well, you have a nanny. I got kids. You got a nanny. And a wife. She's got to take care of everybody.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And you got your nanny. Yeah, I got my nanny. Yeah. I need Mr. You got a nanny. And a wife. She's got to take care of everybody. And you got your nanny. Yeah, I got my nanny. Yeah. I need Mr. French. Yeah. Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Up next is episode 749 titled, I Never Lie. That episode aired on January 19th, 2018. Adam and
Starting point is 00:10:47 Dr. Drew talk about people that boast how great they are, always fall short, and man do they. Listen up. So you and I were talking the other day about how people make declarations about their identity that are often a couple minutes away from who they actually are. What did you say? Yeah, it's something that Drew and I have been talking about on the air and off the air. And I've been very interested in people that, for instance, I've had a lot of people just announce that they are honest. Like one thing, like how dare you call me a liar. Like I never lie.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Like I will not lie. And they they lie all the time well that's the person you know does some lying strangely but i don't know that they know that they're that they're lying and then i've also realized that People, look, everybody, let's be fair here. Everybody has a version of themselves that's in their head that feels a certain way that may not comport. I think that's the word. Is that word comport? Yeah, yeah. Comport with exactly what other people are saying. I mean, look, here's, hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Hold on. Do you declare who you are? Do you ever do that? I don't think I've ever done that. I'm the guy who's always, I'm the guy who's never, I don't think I. I got to tell you, there are two people that have been in this company over the years. The only two people that have ever announced that they were the best, they both got canned and they never got replaced with anybody. I don't even think they got replaced.
Starting point is 00:12:36 They were that good. They couldn't be replaced. I've literally had people like sit down and go, you know, nobody can do what I do. And I'm thinking to myself, I have no idea what you do. And i assume either nobody will do it or i'll get kaylin to do it like like that's now i know so obviously whatever they think is going whatever's going on in their head yeah it's not what's going on in my head no and guess who's right more than they are. Right. Now, part of being the boss, it's your job to be right. I'll tell you what you can't do.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Have people go, I'm the best. You know, no one can do what I do. You think, Oh, please, I'll get a $11 an hour kid to do what you do.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Have that person leave and have the whole tent come down. As a boss, that's the, you can't not even get, I mean, right now. leave and have the whole tent come down. As a boss... That's... You cannot even get... I mean... Right. Now, I... That's your ultimate failure.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I have... Or not be prepared to do it yourself, which is part of being the boss, too. But let's stick to the subject of your reality, what's in your head versus what's in the other person's head. Right. So self-concept versus what's me versus I, as William James used to say. It's my sense of me versus I. I have probably 25 people at work for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And I could go tell all of you we could make three hats we could make the man this guy can't go anywhere hat we could make the this guy could go this guy could not show up tomorrow and i wouldn't care and then we got the uh i i wouldn't like this personally but i think we could figure it out like we could get somebody else and i put on all of them and so would jimmy kimmel oh and he has 150 people and they'd never be wrong about any of them. So whoever it is, you gotta know.
Starting point is 00:14:31 The boss knows. The boss needs to know. Now, hold on. Hold the phone. Slow your roll. Would you want somebody to ask you which hat they wear? No. I would want you to show me which hat you wear. No. No. I would want you to show me which hat you wear. No, what I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:14:49 we did a show called Loveline on MTV. Yeah. I had been in show business for not even 10 minutes when we started that show. Right. I went and did the show
Starting point is 00:15:02 for, I think, two seasons. Maybe we did 180 episodes or 60 episodes or whatever the hell we did. In the whole run? No, in the first two seasons. Yes. And then when we were done with the first two seasons, I said, I need a raise. I need you to double my money from nothing to like almost nothing,
Starting point is 00:15:21 but I need a raise. Now, I had to know what was in their head. I knew what was in my head. What was in my head is no one else can do this job. But what's in their head? But to be fair, for you, on that, your self-assessment, in terms of that kind of self-assessment is unusually accurate. Like I don't have the confidence even to think that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:15:49 You know what I mean? You don't say I'm confident, I'm not confident. You just say this is the fact. For me, my psychology gets in the way of it. Well, that's something to work on because for me, what I have, I have the luxury of nothing in my head it's an empty vessel i have no preconceived thoughts about me all it's not even me we're talking about i noticed i noticed how your head works my way i have no thoughts about it there's i will stand by, and we will figure out who can do this job better than I.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And maybe Jerry Seinfeld can do this job better than I. Can you guys afford him? I don't think so. Not for $900 an episode or whatever they're paying us, right? Yeah. So I've worked in a couple of assessments, and I'm coming back with, I need you to double my pay. Still, it's a certain clarity you're able to achieve that it's hard. It sounds easy to you.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I can't do it. Well, it can be done, but you have to constantly be assessing. And what you can't do is go, I'm this person. Well, it's the Dunning-Kruger effect. Remember, I've talked about this a million times. Dunning-Kruger is also the imposter effect. The flip side of Dunning-Kruger is I feel like an imposter. I don't really know anything.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Sort of low self-confidence as opposed to Dunning-Kruger, which is the guy that gets up at American Idol and says, I'm a great singer. It sounds like shit. That's also Dunning-Kruger phenomenon. Because they don't, again, they don't see the me. They feel the I, but they don't see the me. Does that make sense? Yeah. So what you need to do is always kind of be in a sort of buoyant position.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Always kind of assess yourself. It's hard. Stop saying that. Stop saying it's hard every time I ask anyone to do anything. First thing. First thing I would like you to do. Stop saying that. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I'd like you to assess yourself. That's all my own crap. I know because you're letting people off the hook. Yeah, that's right. It's a job, but it's an important job. It's a very important job. Your number one job is to know where you are with other people. And then when you know where you are, you'll know what to ask or what not to ask.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I've had people come in and ask me things where I've just went, that's insane. Why would you think I would ever do that and know and see you and i don't know what they thought was going to happen because they weren't calibrated correctly yeah you know what i mean i i did um i wrote for the oscars last year and i wrote for free and this year j, Jimmy asked me to come back, and this year I'm going to get paid. And it's based on performance from last year. Sure. I didn't come in this year. I didn't come in year one and demand to get paid.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I said, let me do this for free, and then let me impress you with what I can contribute to this big machine here. And next year, I'll then let you decide whether you think I should get paid or not for the same job. You and I have done a lot of that along the way. That's all I've done. Yeah, yeah. And that's all anyone needs to do. I didn't say pay me the first time.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I didn't say don't pay me the second time. I didn't say pay me more the second time. I just said you figure it out. The same is true of even podcasting. You started podcasting to see if you could find an audience and then you went to see if you could sell it. You didn't find
Starting point is 00:19:34 sponsors first. It doesn't make sense. Right? I never... Look. Now, here's the part that doesn't make sense to me. I am well calibrated in terms of I'm no good if it's an anniversary or a birthday party. I'm no good for that. But I am well calibrated when I go, I think what I'm offering is fair.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I don't think I'm being greedy. I don't think I'm being dismissive or whatever. I think my notion of how this apple should be whacked up and who should get the most pieces and how we're going to do this because I'm very well calibrated, I think
Starting point is 00:20:23 everything is very reasonable and very fair. And furthermore, state your case. Let me hear all that you have to say, and we'll see. Because of my buoyancy, I may move your direction or another direction, depending on how calibrated you are. But then once we arrive on it, that'll be it. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Last up today, we go to episode 1028 titled Let's Beat Up on Mr. Rogers. Man, what did he do? The fellas go in on Mr. Rogers and how he wasn't as great as people made him out to be. It's a beautiful day to crack on a legend. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I, as a kid, wanted nothing to do. I wanted to watch Sesame Street and the electric company about as much as I wanted to trade baseball cards or look at comic books. It had nothing for me. There was nothing in any of that stuff for me either, which I actually always felt guilty about because I felt like I would have been more creative or something if I were somehow invested in that stuff, but I was not. But when Sesame Street hit, I was 10, 11.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And it was way sort of more youthful kind of programming and i would argue it's like for two and three year olds really like barely speaking i always feel sort of half whatever about like mr rogers i feel the same documentary about him yeah i did yeah i feel the same way about mr rogers is i feel about Huell Hauser. Like on one hand, super nice guy who's just wasting everyone's time and money. Well-meaning. Well-meaning, super authentic, sincere guy. Authentic, but with a little bit of a gloss of, I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Didn't really want to have to compete in the real world. Also, not the guy you're going to go have a beer with. No way. No way. Like, I know we have to just go, hey, this guy's a hero, man. He loved to talk to kids. But he didn't possess a lot of – I don't know. Like, if somebody says –
Starting point is 00:22:41 I know. If somebody met him, I'm sure that somebody went, that guy's got it. No, but, like, when people describe describe him, his greatest talent was for listening. I'm like, how about Ben Vereen? His greatest talent is tapping his ass off. Or playing the trumpet while he's tap dancing. How about a little more of that, a little less listening? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah, I know who's listening right now. Me. And my nana. She's been dead for nine years like i get it and other people like five-year-olds aren't really ever listened to it's like yeah actually not saying much right but he listened right and i also feel with um mr Rogers. Let's beat up on Mr. Rogers. That's a winning proposition. Well, everything was so insanely cathartic for him.
Starting point is 00:23:37 He had this childhood where he was a fat kid and people didn't listen to him. And now he's just going to build his entire life around listening to kids. It's fine. Here's what I'm saying. Whenever I look at performers, I kind of look at certain guys or girls and I go, I could never do that.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And then you look at other people like Yoko Ono and Mr. Rogers and you go, I don't want to do that. Like, I feel like I could put the sweater on and fake it if I in a pinch. But I don't really I don't want to. That look, I was bothered in that documentary, by the way, that that he was they were sort of offended by Eddie Murphy's comedic version. They should have embraced it all the way. I think they said he liked it. I still got the feeling he was like, oh, no, they got me all wrong. No, this is great.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It's his highest honor. honor well look any i tip my cap to anyone who can figure out a way to get paid to do something that they want to do for a living that didn't formally exist yeah like sure huell hauser made a living wasting everyone's time but he still made a living wasting everyone's time. But you learned about tortilla factories. Not really. You didn't learn anything when you watched? It's just there's not much to know about tortillas? We got to drop a couple of Huell Hauser sort of amazing. I love that.
Starting point is 00:25:20 If you can find that, Gary. You can't write Huell Hauser. Anyway, I mean, when he went to the Baghdad Cafe, that was some of the greatest comedy I'd ever. There's two times, like they go, we're a comedian. Who makes you laugh? Does Dave Attell make you laugh? Does Jimmy Kimmel make you laugh? And I go, no. Huell Hauser.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Huell Hauser. Huell Hauser makes me laugh. And the great Deacon Jones. Oh, yeah. Because the two hardest times I've ever laughed watching TV is when Huell Hauser's got the guy on the phone from the Baghdad Cafe and the timing. You've got to go to that one part.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Burt Lancaster. What's the story behind Burt Lancaster? Did he eat here? Oh, you just like Burt Lancaster. Well, you hung the picture up. Okay. It was like the greatest zero burger. That was like bigger than Al Capone's vault in terms of like nothing burgers.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Everybody leave it on the show. It didn't cut it. Well, it's the greatest moment ever. I have it here to just when he takes the phone. They get into Lancaster fairly quick. Right. That part and when Deacon Jones goes, well, I find when you go upside a man or a woman's head, they tend to blink their eyes. It's the greatest.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It's the funniest moment on TV. It's better than any Seinfeld episode or woman. He's talking about NFL players exclusively. There are no women in the NFL. There'd be zero reason to include women. All right. One more time. It makes me laugh every time.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Atkins' flood of breaking arms was the reality of the Deacon Jones head slap. The head slap was to do two purposes. One was to give myself an initial head start on the fast rush. In other words, an extra step. Because any time you go upside a man's head, or a woman,
Starting point is 00:27:24 then they have a tendency to blink their eyes. That's all I need. That's the greatest moment in TV. He's specifically asking about rushing the quarterback, not getting out of the entry hall. He's talking about rushing the quarterback. There's a context here. He sets the table by saying rushing the quarterback he's not saying as human beings
Starting point is 00:27:47 we're all wired very delicately no he's saying here's how i rush the quarterback he's he's imagining hitting people inside the head i love that he included women and i love that the nfl network never caught it i swear to god i yelled. I laughed about it on the air during the morning show, like in 2008 or whatever. And it magically left the NFL Network. Like somebody finally went, hey, do we have edit bays here? Like, yeah. Aren't we just putting this up against game footage? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Well, why don't we just cut out a little early on Deacon talking about women? All right. That's all for this week. Thanks for listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. I've been your host, Big Brother Jake. Remember to check back each week for new episodes. And while you're at it, don't forget to like, subscribe, and rate us five stars wherever you get your podcasts. Deuces!

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