The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1707 Tamp It Down

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

Adam and Drew get into Elon Musk's BBC interview and the fact checks about hate speech. Next, Adam gives some examples of people who need to "tamp it down" when it comes to their impulsive and tribilist nature. Finally, they discuss the problem with flower vendors. Please Support Our Sponsors: Simplisafe.com/ADAM2

Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the trip. Dr. Drew's board physician with a sex specialist. What's going on? Bored, man. I'm bored bored you're in new york city

i'm in new york city you're in a beautiful glendale what's going on i was thinking about the elon musk interview with the bbc where uh he's sort of kind of interesting he sort of set the guy straight right and i think you and i talked about this a little bit offline and uh this guy from the bbc says you know i'm seeing lots more hate and uh misogynistic material on on twitter and he goes really name name one what have you seen tell me one tweet you've seen the guy couldn't come up with it but what i wanted i think a lot of people saw that part which was uh you know and i i think we all need to be more like elon musk rather go oh sorry sorry i'll make it

better next time just go just show me your evidence i'm adam you as you said to me before you started that with uh gavin newsom 10 years ago yeah and of course, no answer. Ten years later. No, still no answer. Now everything's worse. Everything's worse. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't get it. There needs to be more of that. I think. A lot of it is the cycle and how quickly the formats move and how people just don't want to sit and wrestle because it's time to get on to the next segment. Of course. It's also an element of you want to be invited back. There's a lot of you disagree, you don't get to come back. You know, there's a lot of, you know, you disagree, you don't get to come back. You know what I mean? We don't, you know, CNN doesn't need Adam Schiff to come on three times a week if he's talking about not finding any evidence of Russian collusion. They don't

need him. They need him to come on and talk about Russian collusion. So there's, you know, Right. A lot of people strike it up to, you know, it's kind of interesting. So like, let's see, I had Chris Hansen in here from Catch a Predator, right? And Chris Hansen is a lovely guy. guy but he explained to me he made his bones in journalism for you know 30 years before he made his way on to that show where we know him from and he I said to him well what's going on with journalism and he was like ah they just they don't have the funding anymore you know they don't they don't have the money or it's a kind of oh they hire these young inexperienced kids or whatever and i liken it a lot to when you see the footage of the mob in chicago you know trying to burn down a tesla and then the mayor gets up there and he's

like well these people don't have money it's like yeah i didn't have money. Yeah. Oh, I didn't have money. This was opportunity this time. Yeah. Well, kind of both are, they kind of means both. Um, yeah, I don't know what one has to do with the other. Okay. You don't have the budget you used to have for your journalistic staff. Let's just say, how does that prevent them from asking a question of the president about his son in Burisma and Ukraine? Does that cost anything? Right. You know what I mean?

Like, OK, you don't you don't have enough money to, you know, buy airline tickets and send a crew to Ukraine to look into this. But you could ask the question at the White House briefing room, couldn't you? Or COVID or efficacy of masks or the vaccine or something. Okay, you don't have the budget to do a clinical trial. But you could ask Rochelle Walensky a question couldn't you does that cost anything so so here's how i so by the way this is why you know um i like chris hansen but this you know they don't have the budget it's bullshit that's all bullshit it's bullshit and it's not

bullshit at the same time let me give you my my interpretation. You and I know that the people that are doing journalism are sort of not even doing journalism. They have shown themselves to be woefully inadequate. We know the only people that make money in news so-called are people doing opinion pieces who aren't, many of them aren't even journalists my point is i do know some good journalists chris hansen's one of them none of them are doing journalism none of them because they're either doing opinion stuff or they're doing to catch a predator or something else or crypto or something they're doing something else because there's no money to to pay for the level of sophistication of that kind of journalist.

So shitty guys get involved in journalism, guys and gals, and that becomes now the standard of care, right? That becomes the standard of journalism, and the model shifts from quality journalism to maintaining narratives and that sort of thing. Now, the best of the best end up in the press pool at the White House, right? Yes. And so those guys should be asking the question, but the culture now has shifted because of the crappy quality of everybody else. Does that make sense? I think you're half on. I mean, just like going out and looting is an activity done by non-affluent people, but not having money doesn't make you loot.

So there's sort of both things are sort of happening simultaneously. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. are sort of happening simultaneously. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So yes, they're not getting the best and the brightest. Uh, and then maybe they don't have the budget for it, but on the other hand, you cannot just because you're making $63,000 a year versus $122,000 a year. It doesn't mean you can't ask questions about COVID, right? It doesn't mean you can't ask questions about COVID. Right. It doesn't mean you become a cheerleader for all things COVID,

lockdowns and masks and Fauci and whatnot. Your pay stub is not going to affect you asking Gavin Newsom why he's closing down beaches and parks. You know what I mean? Right. So I agree to some. The model has changed. Right.

They're doing they're not doing what we would call journalism. Right. So. No. I don't even think to ask the question because they're looking for that one little piece to get a headline. I've seen that, man. I've been in rooms where the journalists line up and some politicians up there saying interesting things and they'll pull out a nothing because it's something that out of context sounds outrageous. I've been talking about for a long time, but I heard my friend Dennis Prager speaking about it recently. He and I sort of will come on to the same thoughts and conclusions and things like

that sort of simultaneously, or at least in the same basic time frames, you know. He's a kind of sit back and read the tarot cards kind of guy. And so am I, and then start to form thoughts. And, you know, my sort of chick think thoughts have been kind of dovetailing with a lot of thoughts that he's had. He puts it in a more succinct fashion or maybe less offensive fashion than I do. But here's his synopsis, and I think you'll be interested in this. And it kind of encapsulates what I've been shouting about for the last decade. Where we tell men constantly, young boys, they need to control their nature.

You know what I mean? They want to fight. They want to wrestle. They want to settle things with their fists. You know, they want to grab stuff that isn't theirs. At some point it gives way to a sort of sexual nature. You know, you want to, you, you want to get laid on the first date so you want to grab the woman you know we tell no no no no you know tamp it don't grab that chocolate bar no no no

it's not yours tamp it down right yeah um we don't tell women to tamp down their nature they have a nature that's not conducive to a lot of stuff we want to get done in our society either. You know, when a woman gets into politics, as you know, always bring up Sotomayor screaming about ventilators and kids and hospitals being over. She needs to tamp her fucking nature down. needs to tamp her fucking nature down. Women need to tamp it down too. Lori Lightfoot should have tamped down her nature.

Kamala Harris, tamp, tamp it down. I know you have feelings, you're emotional, you know, you're AOC, you're heading over to the border to cry by the cages and stuff like it. Tamp it down. There's a problem. Unaccompanied minors. We have to figure this one out. They're going to be detained.

This isn't throwing kids in cages. Tamp it down. And we're not doing that. We're not telling women to tamp their behavior. Same way we're telling men to tamp their behavior down. We're not telling women to do that. And now we have tons of women in positions of power. So, you know, we live in Los Angeles. We have Barbara Ferrer. She's the health director. She's not tamping down. We have Rochelle Walensky talking about as a mother, I got a bad feeling about tamp it down, bitch. You're not getting paid to be a mom or have feelings about stuff. We need data. We need a risk reward. We need to weigh those options right now.

We can't talk about wanting everyone to lock it down and stay home because you've got a bad feeling about which way the wind is blowing. We're not doing that. That's part of the reason where we're at. Yeah, agreed. Agreed. I think that's a and by the way, there's a lot of talk. It's interesting. You know, I was thinking to myself, well, that's only fair. I thought, where all the talk of fairness go? There was always fairness, fairness. Remember that a couple of years ago? Right. COVID fair. It's only fair. And I thought, where did all the talk of fairness go? There was always fairness, fairness. Remember that a couple of years ago? Right.

Pre-COVID, fair. That's not fair. Pay your fair share. Fair, fair, fair. And of course, it's only fair. If you ask men to be less aggressive, less impulsive, you should ask whatever, you know, what's on the other end of that spectrum

to sort of be a little less of that. Everyone be more reasonable. their end of that spectrum to sort of be a little less of that everyone be more reasonable everyone you know everyone tamp down their their um what should we call it their impulsive natures and and tribal tribal oh for sure sure yeah you're a black. and you don't want to prosecute people that look like you. Tamp it down. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Everybody tamp down your nature and your tribalism and let's do that. Let's do the job. Except Adam. He should come up and dial it up. Yeah. So the the so the I didn't finish my thought on that bbc interview so there were fact checkers on musk's claim that uh he has reduced uh hate and um misogyny and whatever online uh in twitter on twitter and uh so the fact checkers come in and they go well you know in fact less misogyny less racism

but more anti-semitism therefore he's completely wrong i was like what the he's it should be like yeah he was correct about the things he was focused on i don't know if he blinked on anti-semitism or what but they can they can get that going as we get that down as well. Okay, progress, not perfection. I thought the interpretation of his claim of progress was so, speaking of fair, unfair, because he didn't nail all aspects of hate online. Therefore, the whole claim was completely invalid.

was it completely invalid um i in the last two and a half years will throw fact checkers in the same hamper as experts i know i know about journalists that's case by case yeah you got to tell me who they are yeah and then i'll tell you whether I believe them or not. But fact checkers and experts are now no longer to be listened to, in my mind. I've not heard any fact checkers that don't lean hard against whoever, you know, the right or Elon Musk or Trump or whatever. There's no more fact checking. or Trump or whatever. There's no more fact-checking. And journalism, again, case by case, but probably all sort of bought and paid for.

And when it comes to experts, done with the experts, too. Sad, right? Yeah, it's very sad. Terrible. Well, it's their fault for being wrong. Now, let's think about that yes i understand but should experts even be should the public be in any way involved with discourse amongst experts as they jockey back and forth and defend their positions i mean that's what experts do they they they challenge each other they refine their position by challenge. The public shouldn't even have an opinion. They shouldn't be engaged with it. They shouldn't in any way have any relationship with it. This is the part I've been complaining

about from the beginning. This is in the zone of you have an opinion about a medication whose name you just learned to pronounce. That is insane. Yeah, no, I agree. And then also, as it pertains to homeless people, are there really any experts? Who are these people who have, you know, proclaimed that they're experts? And what value have they added? What have we got done? It's probably getting better or worse. What have we got done? It's probably getting better or worse.

I mean, I was just driving through sort of, I don't know, Venice area yesterday. Man, I saw homeless campers. I saw Winnebago campers just strewn, strewn about. And I was saying to my friend Matt, who was driving, I said, you know, I've lived in L.A. my entire life, and if you would have told me many years ago that the L.A. would sort of turn a blind eye to homeless people, you know, panhandlers and stuff like that, I would have believed you, but not when it came to parking. The one thing that these people were Nazis about was parking.

You know what I mean? Especially in the People's Republic of Venice and Santa Monica. Yes. Yes. Anywhere in L.A. County. They were nuts about parking. And the fact that you could just take beaten up old Winnebago's and just park them along that. I was driving home from the improv the other night.

I drove down for salon drives, just camper after camper after camper, just park there. Just but. You know, how does it work? All right. In the book. I don't know. Maybe Amy can look for it. I think it was in 50 years.

We'll all be chicks. Ah, that book, I think, but there was a, a chapter on force lawn drive. Oh, and I was explaining what was going on.

This is with the flower sales. Yeah, but it was a juxtaposition. This is the cops doing the speed checks with right cops. had his bike backed up the Jewish cemetery part of Forest Lawn with the radar gun, getting everyone, you know, it's a wide open highway with no signals or stop signs or anything. People kind of tend to speed on it. On the other side of the street were a few people selling flowers, just sort of directly on the other side of the street were a few people selling flowers, just sort of directly on the other side of the street, a few. From the cops?

Yeah. Yeah. He had no interest in them. But he did have interest. But then it was illegal. Street sales were illegal back then. Yeah, they were. They've always been illegal.

No, I think they're illegal now. I don't know that they're – I don't know that you can sell – I don't know that it's ever been legal to sell things on the street. But it's certainly sort of condoned now, right? Yeah, yeah. So there were three or four little groups of people selling flowers. This is, you know, 13 years ago. Now. They did nothing with those people. They they wrote tickets to the moms and the soccer fans, the soccer moms and the minivans. Okay. So the cop with the, with the speed device, the, the speed radar gun was just there catching the taxpayers while the people that were doing the illegal activity of street sales without the benefit of

taxation, property tax employees, nothing, none of that stuff was insurance regulation. All the, all the things that make the local florist a mile away, all the things that make him charge twice as much for a bouquet because of the overhead. He's being undercut. OK, I noticed this 15 years ago and I was like, this is a bad sign.

This is not good. You know, it's funny. It's interesting. I remember when you first brought that up and I was actually, I pushed back a little bit and went, oh, come on. People are, they're industrious. They're doing their thing. They're figuring out a way to make a living. I think we should celebrate that.

Yeah, well, so did Gavin Newsom. That was one of the things I got into it with him on. Do your spot. We'll see if Emmy can find it. I don't know if it's the first book. Could be the second book. I don't know.

You can look. I don't know. So, we never did. Yes, people were, and I think authentically so, sort of took the side of the industrial illegal who was here trying to work and put bread on the table. Fine. And that's one of the things I got into with Gavin Newsom. He was proud of those people.

He wouldn't be proud of you if you opened a business, a restaurant, and just started selling beer and wine without a liquor license, he would not be proud of that. They would come down with the swift sword of justice would be felt upon your neck very quickly. Or if he shut the beaches down and you wandered onto the beach during COVID, that would not be tolerated. But these people are tolerated. And now you have hundreds of flower sales going on on Forest Lawn Drive right off the freeway off-ramp now, not directly across the street. They moved it up to the off-ramp. So now cars are stopping and traffic is backing up

and there's garbage everywhere. And then a little further down the street is all campers, all Winnebago's and people living out of it. So what is the answer? Well, the answer is we should have fucking done something 15 years ago when I was complaining about it, but we didn't. So here we are. And that's basically the entire city now.

Yeah. You know, interesting. The interesting thing with your thought experiment on you selling alcohol on the street, how about, I don't know if you've been down by MacArthur park, but you know,

where the, where the subway station is, there's a lot of, well, you've been to Tijuana or cabo right they have those sort of street sale all that tchotchke stuff that sort of sold so well that that's what our sidewalk looks like in that part of town what if uh you or i went out there and started selling in one of those booths i wonder what would happen to be very interesting i'd fantasize for a long time about just going to the flower guys where they are over there in forest lawn and just setting up a table and selling mangrove and just filming it because you would definitely be shut down

if you go to staple center they're guys with coolers selling beer. Yeah. Right on the sidewalk there. Cops standing right there. God, you could do all kinds of experiments. First of all, you can engage with the cops and go, you know, what about these guys? That would be an interesting conversation and then you should do your manganese setup next with um you know um somebody like yermo or you get yermo in there to do hot dog and bacon next to you

and see if that makes a difference in terms of how how they approach you the idea that you can just sell food on the street in the most listen i've said this once i don't think i've said it quite some time when jimmy and adam perry lang famous barbecue chef all around good guy opened a steak joint in hollywood they they had sandwiches for lunch, the lunchtime crowd. And I said to them when I went over there for sort of their opening, you know, I said, and what's going on with the sandwich sales or something? And they said, yeah, we can't do that one yet. And I said, why not? And they said, well, we have to sell them through a window that's like in the kitchen or whatever. I have to hand them out the bags, you know, like a drive-through kind of thing, but for walk-up.

And I said, so what's the problem? And he said, we don't have the fan that gets activated when you open the window that blows the air out so that a fly can't get in. Oh, my God. And the city won't let us sell the sandwiches until we get the fan, you know, mounted. So they get really granular when it comes to details, when it comes to businesses paying them for permits, right? That's pretty granular. But if you want to take a shopping

cart and put propane tanks on it and go out in front of the staple center we got no there's no way to enforce that it kind of begs the issue why more people don't do it why does anybody open a mcdonald's it's pretty damn crowded now when you go down to the staple center, if you ever walk out of there in terms of who's selling the food. And if you go to see the Rams or the chargers play, um, down at SoFi, it's, it's the same thing.

Now the SoFi guy is yelling at you to mask up in between bites and not to nurse a bag of popcorn because he's watching you. He's on to you. He's on to you. But meanwhile, you walk through a Turkish bazaar of people selling booze and food from coolers in front of the place. What I'm saying to you, Drew, it's all part of the place. What I'm saying to you, Drew, it's all part of the same. It all falls under the same heading.

Yeah. If you do not enforce things, then people will do what they do, and it works that way with everything all the time. Sorry. I'm sorry. That's just, those are the rules. So what are you going to do?

It's not rules. It's just human nature. Well, I mean, the rules of sort of gravity. Oh'm sorry. That's just those are the rules. So what are you going to do? It's not rules. It's just human nature. Well, I mean, the rules of sort of gravity. Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, those are sort of basic nature human rules, you know. Yeah. When I and there's indicators. You know, I was eating outside in Chicago two and a half years ago, and I just saw a whole gang of guys riding ATVs

and dirt bikes and stuff just doing wheelies just coming right down the street on a Friday night and I was like oh it's over we're not enforcing stuff anymore they've taken over and now that's gone on that was Chicago right now it's gone on

to mobs going on the street and then looting, right? Yeah, but it's because they don't have money. Yeah. How about the guys with the ATVs? No money? They burn it all on two-stroke oil, Drew. So they don't have any pocket change anymore because they're always buying the two-stroke mix for their ATVs and their Elsinore 250 Hondas.

Oh, my God. So I don't, you know, it's like it's one of these things where you and I talk all the time. We're like, to what end? And what's the plan? And again, whether it's Gavin Newsom or the Yentas of the city council, you're going to have to tamp down your feminine impulses when it comes to running things. You know what I mean? So you see the poor Mexican selling flowers by the side of the road across from the cemetery, right?

Yeah. The feminine impulse is, oh, leave the guy alone. He's trying to provide for his family, right? The masculine impulse are rules are rules. This is going to lead to more of this, and it's not fair to the guy in Toluca Lake who's paying top dollar for his floor, you know, for his business. That's the male impulse.

Female impulse. Leave him alone. He's not harming anybody. Right. Yeah. OK. Fine. But this is what you get.

Tamp it down here. Hmm. Where does it go from here i think ultimately when enough people leave you know california or leave chicago or you know leave la leave chicago leave you know these these cities and when when the tax base just gets up and leaves i think uh i think at some point they start modifying. Same way they did with Runaway Productions. They started to try to change

their act a little. When they went away from Los Angeles. Yeah, they realized what they'd done. They don't care. They just realized money was leaving. But for years and in great quantities before they got their shit together.

Yeah, that's how it works. Oof. All right. You can go to AdamKroll.com for all the live shows coming up May 11th, June 15th. Going to Jimmy Kimmel's Comedy Club out there in Vegas. Oklahoma City, May 19th, May 20th, and New York. Sony Hall, May 26th and 27th. Come on out.

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