The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1721 The Ultimate F*** You

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

Adam and Drew take a deep dive into the reason CDC Director Rochelle Walensky resigned. Next, Adam revisits his greatest moment of all time where he delivered the ultimate "FU". Please Support Our Sponsors: BetterHelp.com/ADAMandDREW BlindsGalore.com

Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, got to get on it. Dr. Drew's with the board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. That's right, my friend. So we've been on these interesting historical sidebars the last couple of

shows, but I have a bunch of stuff I want to talk to you about. First of all, Walensky out at the CDC. Nice. And all the misinformation that she presented as sort of being unearthed and presented sort of uncanny

how many false things she said. Why do you think she left? Well, here's an interesting thing. I just found out yesterday, this is not widely distributed yet, and I don't know quite how this is going to play out, but there was some sort of legal action against her for never having signed the affidavit she was supposed to sign, declaring that she wasn't receiving any money that would adulterate her opinions. And in that affidavit, I can't pronounce it.

I thought it was affidavit. Davit, V-I-T. Oh, with a T. Okay. And they specifically describe her job as consultant. She was never meant to be the director of the CDC apparently. So there's more to be revealed in this story as we move along here. I don't know quite what's going on. I don't even know if that has anything to do with why she left.

She left coincidentally on the same day the World Health Organization declared the pandemic over. She announced victory and that she had done a great job. Her job is done. Yeah. Done scaring the fuck out of everyone. Yeah. She, look. She hadn't been in the job two days before you called her a gypsy woman.

That's pretty funny. Well, looky here. She's actually apparently a well-qualified, excellent physician. Everybody, here's the sad news, Drew. Yeah, sure, we've had plenty of that. It turns out everyone is well-qualified until they get pushed into a direction, and then they go that direction. I know. So she's well qualified, but teachers unions in the Biden administration are telling her to shut up about opening schools.

So she shuts up. Yes. So you can be well qualified and pushed in a direction. So what do we call that? Do we call that just, you know, sort of pragmatic? Do we call that mercenary? You could call it the ultimate in pragmatism, if you think about it. Yeah, it's almost cold-blooded pragmatism.

It's a little more... Self-serving. Well, it's survival. Yeah. I mean, that's what it feels like to them. Now, I would argue, quit and go get another job. It's survival. Yeah. I mean, that's what it feels like to them. Now, I would argue quit and go get another job. It's hard. Or quit and go get another job in another field, which is harder.

But I wouldn't say just do it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, look, every hero story out of Hollywood is people that won't just do it. Except for all of Hollywood just does it, which makes me wonder why they're obsessed with that. That's the next thing I want to get into. But go ahead. Finish Walensky.

So she had a couple of episodes. And her episodes were like. First things first, whether it was her or Fauci or Barbara Ferrer, when somebody is balanced and neutral and buoyant by by the very definition of them being neutral and buoyant, then you're going to hear news this way and you're going to hear news that way. You know what I mean? So, you know, Fauci is going to say, well, I don't think large gatherings are a good thing during a pandemic. And then someone goes, what about BLM marches? And he goes, no different. You know, that's a large gift. It's a large gathering that I'm against it.

Well, what if it's for, you know, born again Christians and they want to they want to protest abortion'm against it yeah well what if it's for you know born again christians and they want to they want to uh protest abortion center against it or what if it's for progressive blacks who want to protest uh systemic racism against it because it's a large gathering now that's a consistent thought that i would then agree with but But that's not what he did. And she could have done a few of those herself, but she didn't. She gave her presser in front of the CDC banner talking about opening schools and then got coached up after that into not saying open schools. And then she came back and said, I wasn't speaking as an official capacity.

Well, look, hold on. Hold on, bitch. The sun's up and you're in front of a CDC banner as the head of the CDC. So you're not speaking. Why are you speaking then? Right. If that's not...

Did somebody ask you for your personal opinion? We're not asking for a recipe for gazpacho. We're asking if schools should be open. And you said yes, but you had to walk it back. So who made you walk it back? And better yet, why did you walk it back? So once you do that, that was her bottom. To about her son as a mom and summer camp, once she started talking about all that shit, I was like, okay, she's adulterated. Sad. I guess she's done. She's on my list of people. She successfully made it onto my list of people not to listen to. Now, here's the whole thing.

You're not born onto that list. You have to earn your way onto that list. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes. It's the second the news anchor, the politician or Fauci or whatever started saying, you know, there's no way that virus could have emanated from a lab. I'm like, OK, now you're on the list.

Right. The second you said there's no way the Hunter Biden laptop could be real. That's Russian. Oh, now you're on that list. The reason you're on that list is not because I know where the virus emanated from or I know that the Hunter Biden laptop isn't Russian collusion. I don't know. Right. But somehow, you know. Right. And you don't have access to that information. Right. So now you've made your way onto my list. Right.

Of people not to listen to. So certainty and hubris were the big problems in a lot of what people said this time. Yeah. You made it onto the list. Anyone who says, I don't know where that virus came from, because how would I know that China's not sharing any of their data with us? Right. It makes sense that it came from a lab since it was in the neighborhood. I'm even open to working on the viruses.

But I can't say for certain. And you're off the list now. Yeah. And I don't know what that Hunter Biden's laptop is. I haven't examined it. How would I how would I know? OK, now you're off the list. But you don't do that.

You know something that's not knowable or that you don't know. So now you're on the list. Oh, we have a Linsky clip? We have summer camp? Oh, you have the original one? The summer camp was the one we really started going down the road with her on.

I love her on this. She's precious. She'll be missed. With. She's, she's, she's precious. She'll be missed. With regard to camp. I have a 16 year old every day, every year he comes home from camp and he writes the number of days until he returns to camp. This year he's happy.

She said zero. And I told him he wasn't going. I want our kids back in camp. You do. We now have 38,000 new infections on average per day last may 11th it was 24 000 and we sent a lot of kids home and camps were closed the camp guidance is intended to get our kids to camp and allow them to stay there what that's like was the camp guy but why did you keep your kid out of camp? Yeah. Yeah.

Because she's not going to vaccinate him. That's why. I told you that was the reason. Yeah. I know for sure. I have no direct knowledge, but I felt that way about her from the beginning. Well, she never said her kid was vaccinated. She kept talking about her kids needing to get vaccinated.

Right. As I remember, the camp guidance was you have to get vaccinated before you go to camp. We have the CDC logo background clip, too, for this angel. We'll be missed. Angel of mercy. When I first started at CDC about two months ago, I made a promise to you. I would tell you the truth, even if it was not the news we wanted to hear. Now is one of those times when I have to share the truth and I have to hope and trust you will listen. Okay. I'm going to pause here. I'm going to lose the truth and I have to hope and trust you will listen. Okay. I'm going to pause here. I'm going to lose the script and I'm going to reflect on the recurring feeling I have of impending doom. Oh, this is bad.

We have so much to look forward to. God, does she have bad judgment? So much promise and potential of where we are and so much reason for hope. But right now I'm scared. How do you have hope and impending doom? I know what it's like as a physician to stand in that patient room. All right. She has a feeling of impending doom.

That's a great thing to tell public. That's a wonderful, wonderful spokesperson. Gets everybody. She has a feeling of impending doom. Gets everybody lined up. Oh, God. The greatest gift of all is not to listen to any of these people ever. Ever.

You know how much I modified my life for COVID? Personally. You didn't make any modifications. Modifications were brought to you. You ended up eating at Tin Horn Flats. You might not have eaten there if there hadn't been COVID. That's right. I would have taken my son to go to Tin Horn Flats in protest.

If you're right, I did modify. I did go to Tin Horn Flats. You didn't modify. You just did things that was presented to you kind of thing. You know, things as they as as was as things were done. I probably walked. I probably used the horse trail more when they closed the horse trail. Well, I was thinking about that.

I was trying to figure out how to. trail well i was thinking about that trying to figure out how to you certainly had to uh address the yellow tape and the the tank the tank barriers and things more than you would have and by the way deal with this with uh sanctimonious shitheads on the trail then you have to deal with that a little bit you know people often say to me like what are what are your what are you most proud of or what are your achievements or whatever it is and you know winning a car race feels pretty good or maybe having kids but it's telling people to fuck off in real time yeah yeah that's my crowning i gotta tell you you know that guy got out of his car yes started walking toward me in purpose like hey you're in trouble bub and i was like fuck right off go back to your car go get your mask where's your mask and i want you to greatest moment ever

i agree i'll never forget i was on the phone with him he goes oh here comes one of these guys getting out of his car and i hear this hey where's your mask that's what i hear and he goes you you walking on that trail i go where's your mask you're not supposed to be on that trail go go back to your car and get your mask and then we can talk wait then you say remember you said next told to put uh tank traps up like they used uh the germans used on normandy to keep people from going on the trail. Because obviously your fucking plastic tape is just causing me and Mark Aros to walk around the plastic tape and continue down the trail. He went at it with earnestness.

Like, why did you put the tank traps down here? That's going to keep people off, don't you think? And I think at the end you walked away and sort of said, fuck off. You said some sort of, not greeting, but you terminated the conversation with a little get the fuck out of here. Yes. That's my greatest achievement. It was. It was great.

I'm so glad I witnessed it. I'll never forget it. You would have thought I was exaggerating if you weren't on the phone with me. It had a quality that almost can't be reproduced. You know what I mean? Because it's funny when you tell it, but there was a quality with the guys. And you're like, yeah, whatever. He couldn't deal with it.

Yes. It's hard to reproduce that quality. My greatest moment. Yep. Yeah. So everyone needed to do what I did, but they wouldn't do it because they were worried about getting into trouble more than they're worried about germs, I guess. I don't know. Look, it was a weird, weird, weird experience.

I don't know if people have – back to the paradigm stuff we were talking about last episode. You got to step outside the paradigm and really look at how freaking weird this was yeah i so i i figured out that they were trying to scare us early and so there once i figured out they were trying to scare us i thought well you don't really try to scare people when things are statistically relevant and dangerous. They figure it out for themselves. It kind of is what it is. You just tell them what's going on. Yeah, they kept sort of padding things.

If an asteroid were approaching, you would go. They sensationalized things, and then I knew what they were doing. The words? Yeah. Well, she has the impending doom. They were way into the, what was it? It was grave. Yeah.

Okay. So, you know. Staggering. She stepped down. She did a fucking piss poor job. You guys can defend her. You can defend Fauci. You can defend Barbara Ferrari.

You can defend all the panic merchants out there. But you're never going to convince me they didn't do a piss poor job at this. And they hurt a lot of people. They put a lot of kids behind that ruined a lot of businesses. All right, fine. They need to go. She's going to move on to working for some pharmaceutical company. And that'll that'll be that.

And she'll start getting paid more or whatever. That's what he's concerned about. That cozy relationship. Oh, yeah. Right. He was one that really described that to me the first time. And I was about, that cozy relationship. Who is? RFK Jr. Oh, yeah. Right. He was the one that really described that to me the first time. And I was like, oh, shit, he's right.

Yeah. It's too cozy. It's too cozy. Yeah. Right. So you leave your position in government and you go on and become a consultant. Government regulators who regulate the industry. Right.

And become a part of the industry. Yes. Okay. Yes. You become a consultant and a – what do they call that? Lobbyist. Lobbyist for whatever the company is. It even gets closer.

They go into the executive structure. Yeah. All right. So that's what you'll do. So this goes back to – this dovetails a bit into the other thing I wanted to bring up, which is something we talked about, I think, Monday, about people that want to burn things down. And you were saying you were – and I was saying – you say you've been around these people a bit. And I said, no, you're around the people adjacent to the ones that want to burn things down, who are going along because they want to be a cool kid.

No, I understand the fantasy of it because that was was every loser's fantasy is burn it down. They don't. So grievance. When you have a grievance, you want to burn everything down. No, it's basically this. We're playing a high school football game. I'm looking up at the scoreboard. We're getting beat 34 to nothing.

There's four minutes left in the game. And I would like a small aircraft to crash into the scoreboard and take it down. I don't want to see that score anymore. If I'm on the team that's up 34 to nothing, I like what I see. So if you're successful, gainfully employed, happy, and taking care of business, then you like what you see in that scoreboard. But if you don't like what you see in that scoreboard, you'd like a Cessna to hit it. Now, in days of yore, the way it worked is they said, you don't like what you see at that scoreboard.

You better start working harder at practice. Right. But those days are over. You see, the solution to changing the scoreboard was you guys had to work harder in the offseason. Now you just get rid of the scoreboard. Now we get rid of the scoreboard. Yeah. Because I don't like what it says.

Yeah. scoreboard now we get rid of the scoreboard yeah because i don't like what it says yeah and the group that doesn't like what it says is larger than the group that likes what it says and then the policies start coming in because those groups vote that sounds dangerous oh it's totally dangerous and so why then this is the part that really confuses me, and maybe it follows from this kind of perspective, why the guys that we grew up with that were pushing against the man, why are they so interested in telling other people how to live their life? That to me is the weirdest shift to go from, hey, leave me alone, you're not the boss of me, to I'm the boss of everybody.

I guess it's just flip side of the same thing as humans sometimes do. It's still such a strange thing. And to me, embedded in it is a deep denial about being elite. They don't want to be the elite. They are it, but they don't. No, no, no. Don't look here. It's not us.

You know what I mean? No, no, no. We're for everybody. We're for the man. They are it, but they don't. No, no, no. Don't look here. It's not us. Right. You know what I mean? No, no, no. We're for everybody. We're for the man. We're for everybody. We're here. We fought the man for everybody.

And then they're going to tell everybody how to live, which is just such a, I can't. It's just a weird shift for me. I don't get it. Isn't that weird? Yeah. I don't like it macro or micro like i don't like getting now people would say to me probably if i said uh i don't like telling people what to do or how to do it or what you know bossing people around or something yeah most people would laugh and they would go oh come on

it's all you do you know what i mean But that's the part that's weird to me. See, I got the same thing. Like you're telling people not to do drugs. No, no, no, no. I want people to live, go do what they want. But if they need help, I'm here to help. Yeah. So what I do is I tell people, rinse your coffee mug so it doesn't get the brown stain

at the bottom that you can't get to with the sponge or whatever. so it doesn't get the brown stain at the bottom that you can't get to with the sponge or whatever. And that may fall under the heading of telling you what to do. But I'm really just going, I come from a world where all I did for a profession as a carpenter is have guys go, hey, you're going to cut that three quarter inch good one side finish birch with your circular saw, draw a line and then score it. Score it with your utility knife. You score it with your utility knife. It won't it won't it won't kick up and splinter.

You'll get you'll get a cleaner edge. You're much cleaner. So just score it. So I cleaner edge. You just score it. So I'd go, okay, just do it. And then sometimes they'd go, you know, you're using a 32-tooth carbide tip, seven and a quarter inch circular saw blade. You're cutting melamine or Cortron or something that's got a vinyl coating on it. They go, you know, the underside is a cleaner cut so flip it over cut the side you're going to put down

it'll chip out more but the bottom side's cleaner cut i'd go there you go and i that's all that's all it was now did those guys like telling me what to do? I don't know. It's just that's the way humans work. They burned calories helping you. You appreciated that. I did, yeah. I got to be a better carpenter. And it's the only way I became a carpenter.

And it's everything I learned and knew. You know, it's this weird – I had this weird thought the other day. It's not even weird, but funny, you tell me. I went out, there's a couple of guys, you know, when I worked as a carpenter, there was always like a kind of weird groups you'd get paired up with. There'd be sort of the Mexican guys over there, and then there'd be this guy, the plumber, and that guy, the electrician or something. And you'd have these little groups, and there's these two guys. I think the name was like Phil and Russ or something.

They were older guys, but when I say older, they were 29, and I was 21 or whatever, but they seemed older. You know what I mean? And they were 29, you know, and I was 21, you know, or whatever. But they seemed older. You know what I mean? Yeah. And they were like nice guys. Once in a while, you'd run into guys with like a sense of humor and stuff. So I was standing over my sink a couple days ago, and I was putting the lid or the cap or screwing a lid onto something i don't know pickle jar or something yeah and uh i'm left-handed

so i usually hold it with my right hand and take them left and i you know the the everything screws on clockwise yeah but i do quarter turn counterclockwise and then clockwise. And I was thinking about that. Like, I didn't do that from the beginning part of my life. I would just start. And I don't know. Do you guys do that? Does anyone know that?

Is that a thing? Like, if I was putting, if I was screwing this cap back onto this glass cleaner i put it down i'd go counter and then i go clockwise does everyone do that or i do that a lot of the time yeah not but not not religiously because sometimes it kind of falls off it doesn't really catch but you do it yeah you go counter yeah. You go counter. Yeah. Then that way. Yeah. I try to do it all the time. I usually try to tell myself, oh, that's right. Would you go the wrong way first or are you doing it intentionally? For some reason, I go the wrong way.

Oh. But it's not intentional. No, it's not. Yeah, that's what I was digging around. I intentionally go to catch it. I literally do the lefty, loosey, righty type of stuff. What's Ben do? Oh, yeah, that's right.

Does Ben go the other way? I don't know. All right. The point is this. Now Drew's don't know all right the point is this now drew's looking at his phone what is the message uh i would work with guys different guys fun guys white guys mexican guys you know some were fucking shitheads and the other was kind of goofy and funny and whatever and a couple of guys i think phil was one of the guys you know guys had mustaches and stuff you know and they kind of took me under their wing and helped me learn Finnish and kind of brought me out of the from digging ditches into the house where we could put some baseboard down. And there were most everyone I worked with completely ignored whatever sense of humor, personality, observations, whatever I had, which I had. There's like, shut up, you know, get back to work or whatever.

But sometimes there'd be a guy and they'd be like, that's funny. As you know, you're fun guy to knock around with, you know, maybe we'll have a beer after work or something, you know. to knock around with, you know, maybe we'll have a beer after work or something, you know. Yeah. And so we ended up, we'd go out to the desert and go like motorcycle riding, you know, on some weekend or something. With the old guys with the mustache. Yeah. Who were 28.

Oh, right, right, right. I was 21 or 20 or something, you know. Maybe they were 31, but they were old to me, you know. And, you know, we headed out and these are good guys and they're very capable. You know, they could build a house, but they could also work on a motorcycle in the desert with limited tools and get the throttle cable back working and stuff like that. I had this old kind of beater motor, dirt bike and stuff, and I was constantly having to work on it. And I was trying to fix something and thread something, thread something. And I was 21, 20, 21, something like that. And I was trying to get this nut back on.

And Phil said to me, listen, put the nut on. Turn it counterclockwise for about half a turn. Then turn it clockwise. It won't cross-thread that way. When you put stuff on, you just start turning it, it'll get cross-threaded. You can set it on, and it'll be a little uneven. You start turning, and you start cross-threading. This is your public service announcement for the day.

Yeah, just half a turn, quarter turn, back the other direction, then thread it on. And I was like, oh, okay. Thanks. You're not the boss of me, old 29-year-old man. But I found myself at age 58 standing in front of my sink the other day, putting this lid on, going counter, and then going the way. And I thought, oh, Phil. Yeah. 35 years Phil. Yeah.

35 years ago. 40 years ago. 40 years ago. Phil was. 30 years ago. Well, no. 35, 38, whatever. This is stuck from Phil telling me.

I didn't. I never did it that way. I never thought about it. I didn't have any motivation. My dad didn't tell me or no one taught me. But Phil said it. Said didn't have any motivation. My dad didn't tell me or no one taught me. But Phil said it. Said it once in the desert. Just sitting in the desert.

And that's what he said. And I was like, hats off to Phil. This shall no longer have to be spoken to me ever again. Yeah. In a world where now when I get with people, I want to tell them what Phil told me. And then people say, oh, so you just sit around like telling everyone everything and what to do all the time. And I'm like, I'm passing along information that worked for me that I didn't invent. This is somebody else's idea, but I use it and it's been effective.

So now you could say you could laugh at me. You know, if Paul Bryan was sitting in this room and I said, I don't like telling people what to do or controlling people's lives or anything, he would start laughing. But the information is stuff that is actually useful that most people push back against or reject. But I don't know. So it is technically me telling people what to do. But not how to live. No, not how to live. Never.

It's just better if you rinse your coffee mug. Yes. That's all. And it's better if you go counterclockwise for half a time. It's fair, by the way. Yes. That's all? And it's better if you go counterclockwise for half a time?

To be fair, by the way, you're always saying that kind of stuff in an environment where you happen to own everything. It's your stuff you're talking about. Yes. I don't care what you do at home with your coffee mug. You would advise them to act accordingly, but whatever. Yeah, whatever. It's your house. It's your mug.

It's your sponge. But that is how i would do it and i have no idea i think ownership is under attack too why that is met with such resistance and i'll tell you i think women push back much harder than men do in the here's a tip department not sure sure why that's woven into the DNA. It's weird because they are much better exchanging cultural information and when it comes to child rearing and stuff, things like that. But I think the mechanical or the, I don't know, there's something practical, practical stuff. Yeah.

The more practical stuff they push. I don't know. But think about it. That's weird. I agree with you. Maybe they just don't like taking direction from men. Maybe they're more open to it from women. Well, then you get into this space where people kind of watch you do it wrong and leave you alone, which is never where you want to be.

No. But unfortunately, I've cast many people off into that island. That is a big trend in society right now. Watching people do stuff wrong and just leave them alone. That's all we do. Right. Just look out on the streets. Yeah.

That's all wrong. Yeah, you don't want to get in that part. And then all the people I know that are smart never stop asking for tips and directions. Of course. They want to have ideas.

Mentors. So important. They want you to challenge their ideas constantly. Yes. It's. So important. They want you to challenge their ideas constantly. Yes. It's how we grow. Yeah. Look, exposure.

Exposure. Exposure is a fundamental feature of improving mental health and cognition and growth. Exposure, not safe places. All right. Oklahoma City. I'm going to be Bricktown Comedy Club. That'll be tonight and tomorrow night. A couple of shows. Friday, Saturday. New York out there.

Sony Hall. Dr. Drew and Geragos and everyone will be around. Yeah, I'll be there. May 26th, 27th, Solana Beach. Coming up at the Belly Up Tavern. That'll be June 4th. You just go to amcroll.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Drew? Go to drdrew.com for a pause. Check out After Dark. You guys will like that. And also the streaming show Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday at 3, Drew? Go to drdrew.com for a pause. Check out After Dark.

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