The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1722 Just Shut Up

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

Adam remembers how people told him to "just shut up" during the pandemic and explains why he refused so he would be on record the day data came out. Next, they take a call from someone with questions about FDA regulations. Please Support Our Sponsors: Simplisafe.com/ADAM2 Angi.com

Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, get it on, get it on. Dr. Drew's board first responder. What's going on there, Drew? Dude, so much going on. I don't know where to start.

I think I will start. Well, of course, we're living in the upside down still. But I noticed, and by the way, I get confused. This aging brain shit. I get confused over what we talk about on mic versus off mic. So if I've said this before or anything for that matter, straighten me out. I apologize. Emmy and I were just talking

and he had told me before where he grew up and I had no recollection. I don't remember. Emmy? Emmy. New York? Yeah, grew up in New York.

But we had talked specifics evidently and no recollection. Greenwich Village. Yeah. And a really interesting, cool part of it. But in any event, you know, we're in the upside down

but i i have seen occasional glimmers of hope and a really significant change for me was you know i read the medical literature all the time and i've been super concerned about the fact that the editorial process has become adulterated. What world do you use? Compromise. Compromise. It's become compromise. And I'm used to reading the back and forth in medical literature. It goes for, against, data comes in, it looks good, it looks bad.

All of a sudden, during COVID, only one direction. So I know it's compromise. It's just not the way science works. There's no such thing as a study. That's why meta-analyses throw away some of the studies, and it's why we do meta-analyses because some are positive and some are negative. But it was all going one way. What's the definition of a meta-analysis?

Metas is taking all the other studies and compiling the data together and then analyzing that. It's sort of a weird thing to do, but sometimes it's worthwhile and sometimes it's sort of a trick. But this week, a couple of things have happened. In the Journal of Medical Association, lots of studies and data about the mental health consequence of lockdown. No apologies, no sense of, well, we shouldn't have done it,

but just total meltdown for adolescent girls particularly. I have some of the data on it, but essentially 60% of them are always miserable and hopeless. 23% or something, seriously suicidal. I'm going to get that data right. Yeah, Okay. Well, listen, there's a problem with kids. I mean, and the data and everything else as well. 30% seriously suicidal.

By the way, the 2021 study is worse since. Yeah. Okay. the 2021 study it's worse since yeah okay but the problem is the victimization sort of proclamation that we've gotten into that you know that i've railed against uh micro and macro for years and years now it's it's really bad for people yes and because what we have decided we can no longer do anymore is what kids need the most certain adults and what keeps kids sane, which is, you know, we used to go, you know, you know, it's it's the oldest thing in time. I have a tummy ache. I can't go to school. You know what I mean? And what we used to do is go, I'll get up, get going. You'll feel good by noon. And we just tell them, sort of walk it off.

And as you know, I've always been a kind of walk it off kind of guy. That has been demonized. And we've decided that I'm not empathic when I do that. You're abusive. And abusive. Unfit. Right. Right.

So instead, what we do is we go, oh, my God, are you okay? Let's go online and see if we can find out what's going on with your pals. And just think about what that does to a kid's anxiety levels. Like, you get anxious. You catch their feelings and are anxious yourself. That's a boundary problem. Your job is to maintain a boundary and hold the kid and go, you're fine. Let's move on.

We'll see how it goes. Okay. Yes. The worst thing you can do to a child. In pain or otherwise. Or a group. Yeah. Is go, oh my God, what's going on we're doomed yeah right now the best thing you can do then is the opposite of that which is i'm in charge uh i take

care of business i'm not going to let this happen you know don't worry uh it'll be taken care of and you'll be fine i think okay i think that's the opposite. I think right there is where Trump is gaining traction again these days. Right. That spot. Right. The oh, my God, what's going on? Crew is fucking up. You know, they'll fuck up kids.

Also fuck up the black community. They'll fuck up women. They'll fuck up. I mean, who's the most fucked up right now? It's all the people we've been saying like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Well, and then lockdowns and the way the public health behaved. Right.

Everybody. Right. So I was demonized for basically telling everyone during COVID. You're young. You're fine. Get over it. Get on with your life. Moving on.

Don't spray down every grub hub box or bag that comes into this house. Meantime, your daughter's hair is standing on end when you say that. Right. And then everyone looked at me and went, oh, my God, what are you doing? Yeah. And so that was how many days into the lockdown that you were saying that? For me, you know, I think a lot of people had these epiphanies. Not a lot, but definitely people we know came on to this six months in or a year in.

I think I came into it about eight days in. I think you did. The question in my mind is I was pre lockdown money. I said it's a bad idea before the two week. Well, there was a two week lockdown. Yeah. Then there was another two week and yeah then there was another two week and then there was newsome all right which were three different things we forget it all looks

like one now and i said what i told drew off the air which more people should adopt which is and i'll say this about many subjects i am not saying this thing doesn't exist. I'm saying you're not going to avoid it, and it's just it's there or it's not there. You know, like systemic racism. It's there or it's not there, but you go to work. Yes. That's what you do.

Right. That's your best shot at defeating this thing that may be there or may not be there yeah oh um i felt the same with covet so and by the way people there are people to protect and we would protect them nursing homes elderly it was not it was not my kids right so they need to get on nor anyone in their school i'm nor anyone in their school so they were or and nor just about anyone in my neighborhood. So shit, they were being scared unduly. And then that then created anxiety.

And then that. But look, what what are you supposed to do with climate change? I mean, you're telling 14-year-old girls, and you're telling everyone, but the girls are internalizing it. You know, basically, you're not going to see your 25th birthday. Not basically.

You're convincing them of that. Yeah, you're not getting married. You're not having kids. You're not going to have a career. I think some of these assholes open with those kinds of massaging the fears before they even teach them about what the climate issues are. Yes. So now it's either happening or it's not happening.

But let's not freak the kids out is basically what I'm saying. Same as same as COVID. And then they get into this retarded argument of you're saying COVID doesn't exist or climate doesn't exist. I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm not saying there's no Klan. Remember that was like Fauci. Fauci, do you just want to let it rip?

You're just going to let it rip? Did you hear him say that? He's a narcissist. He's of the highest order. I don't think people really... I didn't. I didn't appreciate it. narcissist he's of the highest order i don't think i yeah i don't think you're right people really i didn't i didn't appreciate it it's kind of an interesting thing though which is trump is a narcissist but he's a textbook narcissist cartoon narcissist cartoon yeah narcissist yeah fauci is also a narcissist which all the people who say they hate Trump because he's a narcissist adore worship and love.

So there's a kind of a weird duplicity there. But yes, Fauci is a huge narcissist. He, you know, I guess he was lying about a lot of stuff, lying in the sense that he didn't think we could handle the truth kind of thing. Which was to me, that's the most I mean, that used to be the rallying cry around which the liberal community rallied, you know, which was you can't handle the truth. That's what the military tells us. That's what the man tells us. They want to hide. They want to hide their shenanigans from us.

They feel like they need to do these awful things and then tell us we can't handle it right i mean there's a movie about that yes the villain in the movie uttered those words yes and these guys have adopted it as policy yes about that he wanted everyone to get vaccinated so he didn't talk about natural immunity or he said we didn't know about it or you know i i railed against him obviously because he was lying speaking of that or should have been removed from his position i asked you to look up some video on me with the uh they're going after it i think they might have found it remember i told you i was fighting off maybe i should look at it between shows today to make sure it's the right footage, not waste the time here.

But it's me sort of not arguing with but putting a little pressure on one of the school board members. It's either school board or teacher's union. Did you guys find that? We're looking right now. Looking for it. It would have been the fall of 20, I'd say. And she kept going, and we need plastic shields and we need hand sanitizer. I went, yeah, yeah, let's do it.

What's the delay? Let's get it. Let's get it tomorrow. Yeah. And then can we go to work? Can we go to school? You should call me a sexist and a racist. Do you need hand sanitizer?

Do you need plastic shields? No, we didn't need any of it. But I said, fine, we'll adopt it. We'll adopt it. You need it. You want it. Okay, let's do it it because getting kids back to school is important we're gonna hang lucite shields with fishing string and now that that was clearly at inadvantageous it decreased the circulation which is the opposite of what you want to do well here's what i'd like to tell all my progressive friends um you saying we need to

defund the police are you saying we need to decriminalize homelessness are you saying we need to hang plexiglass or whatever it doesn't just exist in a bubble there's a counter thing that happens after that yeah you just you harm people you harm people yeah you don't just defund the police and then we get on with our lives you defund the police and then a bunch of black and brown people get shot in the inner city and here we are yeah that's good work you do a thing and then another thing happens i'm trying trying to explain that a million times on my podcast it's not just this. You don't just close schools down and then nothing happens.

You just close schools down and then everyone falls behind in reading and math and gets suicidal and puts on 25 pounds. And nobody suffers more than the already underprivileged. Well, that's always the comical part. Already underprivileged. Well, that's always the comical part. The comical part is the people they never stop talking about, caring about, are the people that get hurt the most. So, yes, here we are. This is how it works.

I am, you know, people said to me quite a bit during COVID, why don't you shut up? And I said, no, because I want to be on record when the data comes in. By the way, I didn't know it would be this overwhelming. But I said, when the dust settles, I would like all my tweets and all my podcasts and all my segments arguing with the doctor from the doctors. And I want it all out there. And I want a fucking time and date stamp on it. Because I would like to be known as the person who was correct about this shit. So fuck off.

So, yeah, we've already shown the footage of me fighting with the school board member, asking him why he decided to himself to close schools well also they they did a particularly heinous and nasty thing to us and they they've been kind of doing it all along right which is they're like because i remember when um you were dealing with the school board i I remember, sorry, dealing with them talking about shutting things down. You have to understand, we all went into this thing like babes in the woods, naive. You know what I'm saying? They go on many issues. They go on many issues. So they'd go, hey, you know, Dr. Barbara Ferrer, the health counsel, whatever, suggests.

And you'd go, oh, okay, well, she thinks it's, you know. And Dr. Fauci thinks it's a good idea. How long has he been doing this? 50 years. And I was preaching to him. Right, right. Okay, Rochelle Walensky, head of the CDC. She thinks, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. These 51 ex-FBI, current FBI and CIA men, they all signed a document saying that the laptop had all the earmarks of Russian collusion.

And we just sat around and went, well, 51 heads of the CIA and the FBI signed a letter? Oh, okay. Like, I was with you. It's FBI signed a letter. Oh, OK. Like, I was with you. It's kind of comical, by the way. They didn't stop at three. They had to get 50. I was like, yeah, they should be 51-50. I was like any other American.

I was like, these guys. And I was like, these guys, look, there's 2,000 years combined experience with those 51 of looking into such cases and espionage and whatnot coming out of Russia. They must know something. You know what I mean? Rochelle Walensky, you don't get the head of the CDC without being an expert. Okay. So we went in. Trusting.

Yes, we were trusting. They would trot all these experts out, talk about having a super spreader. You had the super spreader events and all this kind of stuff. And all we could do is go, yeah, a super spreader event. Yeah, that sounds bad. All right, so what were you saying? I was just saying that we trusted these folks and trust was something that was completely disintegrated during the course of this. And it was hard for me, too, because I was, you know, as an acolyte, I was a fan of Dr. Fauci. I relied on him for a lot of stuff over many years. I don't know if it is the years in government that makes you kind of a pragmatist in a sinister sense or if he started that way.

I just don't know. I don't know. I think it was an election year. And as we've learned that the federal government does care about who's elected and will go to bat. They will. They will. Boy, well, at least they, you know, Trump derangement or whatever has it that they will

go to bat against a certain candidate. That's for sure. That scares them or whatever he's doing to them. I mean, they are really they are. Yes. That's all. That's all this. It's interesting. His his you know the the trump

derangements has shifted a lot of stuff is shifting a little bit by the emmy were you guys able to find that video or is that a no-go still searching all right we'll do next show but there's a little bit of a shifting and i want to get some calls too in the sense that i'm noticing the left media start to go well know, over half the country thinks this guy can solve the problems they want solved. They're sort of framing it that way now rather than these people are dumb. They're Nazis. They're horrible. They're like, hey, we got to understand what's wrong that these people are responding to this guy who makes them think like he can take care of the problems that we're facing.

guy who makes them think like he can he can take care of the problems that we're facing and then then they go right back to january 6th uh uh nice people you know all the chlorine bleach all the all the hoaxes they go right back to them oh good people on those good people on both sides right both sides yeah that's the part that's always weird yeah yeah he never said that i mean he never said it the way they go it out. But they go right back to it. As soon as they start thinking about, you know, there are people that are sort of responding to this guy. We should understand why. They're interested in overthrowing democracy, I guess. So it's like, okay.

All right. Interesting. Want to take some calls? Yeah, all right. All right. Go right to it. All right. Line one.

Yeah. Talk to Grant. Grant? Hello there. This is Grant from Wisconsin. Hello right. Line one. Yeah. Talk to Grant. Grant. Hello there. This is Grant from Wisconsin. Hello, Adam and Dr. Drew. I'm a fan from your mom's house. Oh, Grant.

Welcome. Thank you. Glad you're here. I'm here to talk about Delta 8 and other cannabinoids from the 2018 Farm Bill that are legal everywhere, but are not federally regulated in terms of the FDA. So I've consumed this, and I trust the science behind it, but is that something that you would think is advisable, or do you kind of take things on your own when it comes to your own health

and what you consume? Well, FDA does not have anything to do with over-the-counter products. The FDA just decides what drug companies and medical product manufacturers can bring to market and under what conditions. People have grave misconceptions, though the FDA determines the practice of medicine. Zero. Zero. They just determine what companies can bring to market and what they can say about the things they bring to market and where it can be deployed without incurring a lot of liability, which doctors do things off-label all the time. I have got grave concerns about THC these days because we are seeing one case after another.

The concentration is so high of the pure THC now that we're just seeing manic episodes and psychotic episodes and depressed. Just one thing after another. So I'm very, very concerned. It's not the way it used to be. In terms of CBD and the other cannabinoids, that's on you. I mean, I have no opinion about that. CBD seems harmless and I've used it for some patients with chronic pain with some utility, both topically and orally. But, you know, there's lots of things out there you've got to use your own discretion about. Yeah, I knew. All you have to do is, you know, when Alex Berenson wrote that book, Tell Your Children, five years ago, and everyone turned on him i was like okay he must

be right because now my new world order is when somebody says something and everyone turns on them i just assume they're right well that's my thing too i learned that from covet by the way that that is so that's why i do that show that streaming show ask dr drew at three o'clock pacific time tuesday wednesday thursday is that when people get canceled, I immediately want to interview them. So I'm interviewing all the professionals that have been canceled. And I would say all of them have something interesting to say. And I've learned some of them, they've got some wacky ideas in there. And I understand why people get kind of, you know, a little perplexed on some of the stuff.

But that used to be just called interesting, not something that needs to be silenced. And they have all taught me something interesting. Look, I went to, I did a news broadcast this morning. And everywhere, six feet saves lives. Six feet saves lives. You mean placards everywhere. Yeah, there's placards everywhere. Six feet, put your mask on.

Yeah, there's placards everywhere. Six feet. Put your mask on. The thing that's funny about all these idiots, and it's one of the things I've been very interested in, is, and I've always talked to you about this, how they bring something up, they kind of make it so, and then it just goes into the official record, and then we just move on. And, you know, January 6th was that way.

You know, it's like a deadly insurrection. It's like a deadly insurrection where there was no insurrection and nobody died except for one of the people, Ashley Babbitt. And police died that day. Yeah. No, they did not. And police died that day. Yeah. No, they did not.

But it's now in the official record. It's interesting to me. It's also interesting that the people that do that are the ones that never stop talking about misinformation and disinformation. It's ironic, obviously. Well, the projection that was wild during COVID. Wild. It was like so wild. And as I quoted you a couple, probably a year ago, I saw this French psychoanalyst that said,

when you hear a narcissist say you are, think he's actually saying I am. Yes. That was a great construct. All right. So look uh people we're gonna have to do a little better job of breaking down the game film uh when it comes to the information that you're that's being pushed toward you now and i'm not talking about i'm not talking about photoshopped images or like sort of fake news where you know you go oh um matthew mcconaughey got a got a stewardess pregnant on a

southwest flight or something like i that kind of stuff is just like i don't know if it's true i don't know if it's not true i don't really have a way to do that, figure it out. But when they're harping on your kids and telling them about COVID and you don't know a kid who's been seriously injured or killed by COVID, then put your fucking thinking hat on, would you please? And figure it out. Or even something like Hunter Biden's laptop. Like, this is Russian disinformation. Well, what about it is Russian disinformation? And please, you must think this way.

You must be able to sort of reverse engineer things. If there is a email that is contained in the laptop that was hacked by the Russians, and they start breaking down percentages and who's getting paid, why do they refer to Joe Biden as the big guy? Or who is the big guy, then, for that matter, if not him? As long as you're trying to take down Biden with a hacked email, then write Joe Biden or dad or something do not do the ambiguous big guy that everyone seems to you know everyone on the right knows it's joe biden and everyone on the left's like hey we

don't know there's nothing here you know why why would you do that yeah if you were trying to frame somebody you were a russian trying to frame someone yeah then put joe yeah yeah or put his title do something that's what you would do you wouldn't you wouldn't be ambiguous about it you would leave a smoking gun yeah because all the documents are careful not to mention Joe Biden in it because somebody said, look, we can talk all we want, but what we can't do is say the name Joe Biden in these emails. Is somebody still alleging that the thing was hacked by Russians? That's still a thing. No. OK, they've moved on to whatever the next thing they're going to be sure of.

They're done being wrong with this no what they do what i tell you guys all the time is be careful of the incrementalism of life you know what i mean yeah so what do we got in everything and everything what do we got? That laptop is a Russian hack job. All right? Then it fades. Then it gives way to, well, the laptop's probably real. But Joe Biden said he never talked to his kid about any business dealings. Then it gives way to, well, there's some pictures of him on some of those flights and hanging out

with some of you know his business partners and 80 of them made they've made trips 80 times to the white house okay but there's nothing that links be careful do you know what i'm saying like it's like saying uh you know you raped your daughter and then you go i've i've never touched my daughter i've never been in her room with the lights off. I've never done anything. And then at some point in three months, you're like, well, I've given her a massage. You know, I mean, she was

right. She had the towel over her. You know what I mean? It's like, look, you either did it or you didn't. If somebody asked you about something that was that you didn't engage in no just go no you wouldn't go to the other side of the boat you wouldn't you wouldn't protest too much well you wouldn't protest too much and then you wouldn't sort of slowly walk it back like like we

i was telling you off the air, you would say, we're accusing you of killing your wife. And you go, I was in Milwaukee that night. And then six months later, it's like, oh, we got some travel ticket receipts. And it turns out you weren't in Milwaukee. Okay, I wasn't in Milwaukee, but I wasn't in Glendale where the murder happened. And it's like, well, now we found a bank ATM. You were in Glendale. I was in Glendale, but I was never in the house. You know, it's like, well, now we found a bank ATM. You were in Glendale. I was in Glendale, but I was never in the house.

It's like, well, then we found a ring doorbell. Okay, I was in the house, but I never put my hands on it. You know what I mean? Yes. You were in Milwaukee 10 minutes ago. Yes. People forget that part. 10 minutes ago, you'd never spoken to your son about any form of business at any time.

But it seems to work, because people forget about the original denial. Yeah. It's weird. What I'm saying is if I'm in Milwaukee, you could ask me a thousand times for the next thousand years about my wife being murdered. And I would go, I was in Milwaukee. I wouldn't gradually move back toward the San Fernando Valley. Do people not understand you can't see this process unfolding? They don't have the attention span.

They don't remember it. It's weird. It must work because they're doing it all the time. No, they want to believe. That's their problem right so you know cbs news is uh the laptop's fake to well laptop's real but he didn't have anything to do with it to well it's a bunch of shell companies but there's nothing you don't you understand what direction this is going you don't know where this is going right i was just thinking all the i was thinking

i was thinking while you're saying that that you know they'll go well how about trump and all his companies all his shells company shell companies it's like no no no they were there was a businesses yeah lots of companies they're all do something well hunter now sells paintings that's what his business is to anonymous people from around the world for millions of dollars it's awesome oh my god though i don't know if this is good news or bad news but for any modern artist that junkie sex addicts work is every bit as good as yours that's the sad part all right you can go to adamcrawl.com i'm going to be in Sony Hall. Is that this Friday and Saturday? Yeah.

In New York. Coming up. We'll have a lot of good comedians up there with me. It's your birthday. Well, it's my birthday. Go to AdamCroll.com for all that. Solana Beach coming up. Nashville.

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