The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1769 It’s 420 Somewhere

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

Dr. Drew runs the show today with friend, and former Loveline co-host Mike Catherwood as they catch up and dive right into some important conversations regarding consent, the different outlooks women ...and men have concerning sex in their youth, and a look back at the Louis C.K. controversy. Dr. Drew has a unique personal story of an experience at a party smoking marijuana, and why weed in California may be causing medical issues, including allergic reactions for some. Please Support Our Sponsor: Angi.com

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Starting point is 00:01:25 Uh, yeah, I guess I do. Anyhow, listen to Salty with Captain Lee, co-hosted by my assistant, Sam. And we will be talking about the latest pop culture news and all the gossip every week. So does this mean we have to talk by ourselves, about ourselves, or can at least have some guests on? I don't know, I find myself pretty interesting ourselves, or can at least have some guests on? I don't know. I find myself pretty interesting. But yeah, we can have some guests on, some of our reality TV friends, and some stars. Works for me.
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Starting point is 00:02:43 And oh, my friend, he is living in Austin these days. How is that? It's cool. I mean, it's weird. I don he is living in Austin these days. How is that? It's cool. I mean, it's weird. I don't technically live in Austin. If like I live in like Calabasas, if you were to say I live in Los Angeles. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah, yeah. I live on Lake Travis. I live out in kind of the sticks. How is the ranch? It's great. It's hard work, man. I know that that's not it sounds awfully trite to say being a farmer's hard work but it's it really is pretty consuming yeah even for a beginner like me well you weren't really are you're not you're not growing anything are you're just sort of expanding
Starting point is 00:03:18 stuff pumpkins oh um sweet potatoes um lots of herbs My wife does most of the agriculture, but I got like 70 birds, guinea fowls, chicken. No, I knew you were getting into the animals. I knew the animals were expanding, but I don't. He's got donkeys, goat sheep. Yeah. Goat. Do you eat a dog? Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Oh, yeah. I got the Great Pyrenees that take care of the ranch. Oh, and i got indoor dogs i got outdoor cats and indoor cats outdoor cats kill snakes and rats and stuff wow it's a whole thing man your wife is uh such a hippie she must love this she does she does and she's like really like the remaining hollywoodsy stuff the diva shit that my wife would have has gone completely away. Like you can't bitch and moan about like bad room service when you spend six days a week covered in shit, like head to toe feces of many animals, you know? So she's out there helping you.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be utterly impossible without her. She's still been doing some acting, though. She's she takes. Yeah. I mean, with the strike, it's been easier on me because she's home all the time. But she just finished a run on the Supernatural prequel, The Winchesters. Nice.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And yeah, she had a bunch of projects. And then the strike happened. So that's been hard. I was on a plane about a week ago, and I saw her episode again with Larry David and Curb Your Enthusiasm. I laughed my ass off laughing. That's one of the best. I was so proud of her because that's such a hard environment to go into. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:52 She really rose to the occasion. And that's a funny episode, man. Does she talk about that, that weird improvisational jerky quality he has and how she managed that? jerky quality he has and how she managed that yeah she she said it was like honestly like way more kind of way more improvisational than she ever even could have imagined yeah um that they kind of have a rough outline of where they want the scene to go and then they just start filming and then you know the ted dansons and the larry davids and the bj jb smooth they just start going and you're like ah and they'll do two or three takes and they kind of make a amalgamation the best ones and i was really blown away i was quite impressed larry larry i love i love jb's movie he's my he's
Starting point is 00:05:36 unbelievable unbelievable so it's right and i don't well we're getting off topic here but but i i uh i i feel like they don't use him as much as I wish they would. I wish he was in a third of every episode. I don't think Saturday Night Live, I don't think Curb, I don't think anything he's in maximizes his ability because he's so freakishly weird and different. He has such a unique voice that – I remember he was on Stern one time talking about all the bits he pitched that got turned down on Saturday Night Live. Oh, yeah. And I'm laughing. I almost have to pull over.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I'm laughing so hard. And I'm like, all of those bits you just named are better than anything I've ever seen on Saturday Night Live. Didn't he have some weird pirate skit? What was that with two patches? He wore two eyepatches. Two eyepatches, yeah. That was it. That was the bit
Starting point is 00:06:25 that he just kept running into stuff. But isn't that crazy that that stays with me? I didn't even hear the interview and I heard that pitch. I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:06:32 that's the funniest thing ever. And so my point being is like he's so different. Like that's such a silly, that's like a childlike thing to do. Yeah, yeah. But I like it. But then I realized,
Starting point is 00:06:43 well, but I think it's amazing doesn't necessarily mean like millions of people would tune into one. Yeah. Yeah. So you and I both miss Loveline. We miss doing it together and we're trying to find a way back, which is interesting. People should, please do let us know on social media, what you think about that and whether we should, and how we should do it and where we should do it and what your ideas are. We're open to things. We're trying to figure it out ourselves. We're open to it because we just want to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I think now more than ever, like, okay, here's the reality of it. Drew and I were really like the Christopher Columbus for political correctness and cancel culture and stuff. And that like 2014-15, you and I would go into work and be like, well, we can't even do this job anymore. Right. You tell someone who's like, I'm 17 and I dropped out of high school. I have no money or a partner, but I really my goal right now is to have a kid. I think that's going to get my life in order. And you and I'd be like, no, that's you're fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:40 That's a terrible thing. And then someone would write a letter complaining that we were insensitive. And you're like, what? Insensitive, not only insensitive, but also hurtful or shaming single parents. Yeah. It's like, no, no. Single parents means nothing to me. Yeah. A 16 year old girl who has no diploma and no partner just wants the baby thinking that's gonna get her life in on track
Starting point is 00:08:05 it's a really bad idea and i don't feel bad at all i'm not gonna apologize for going down hard on her and so like there was a litany of those type of situations and you and i were talking like we can't do this job anymore now i feel like after all is said and done with the internet and the structure of it it's never been a better time to have a show like Loveline. Well, we're still going to take shit. Still going to take shit. But – Yeah, but so what exactly?
Starting point is 00:08:30 We'll talk about that. We've gotten to the point – I was reading this morning a New York Times hit piece on me from like 2019 or something. And at the time, people were like, oh my god, this is the end? This is a disaster. And I said, just keep moving forward and keep putting out good information and kind of take care of itself. And now, that guy looks like an asshole.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And I was thinking about Louis C.K., the same kind of thing, and yet they're going after him again now, I noticed. Because he's working again? Because people would dare to support him and laugh at him how dare they listen i i listen i mean i want to make it very clear and i'm sure like the corolla audience has probably heard this horse has been beat to death but at the same time i want to point out when you're talking about harvey weinstein when you're talking about
Starting point is 00:09:21 people who are evil when who have darkness behind their intent yeah there is a difference between that and someone who's who's struggling and makes it back like i am the grossest horniest guy ask drew i'm not kidding i know what he is he is worse but i can't understand any world where i'd be like hey can i beat off in front of you that would really make me but that's what louis wanted to do and he asked the girls by their own admission that and they consented and they consented my understanding is they consented to it they didn't like it i get it and i go is that weird sure would i like someone doing that to my daughter no absolutely not but uh does that mean the guy's a predator or that he deserves to never work again no of course there's there's like degrees to this well if you remember we got all the way down to a bad date with aziz ansari that was that
Starting point is 00:10:16 was a bad date like the the one that the one that really shocked me was the homie from the guy, long curly hair from Silicon Valley. Oh, yeah. Real high-strung big guy. Yeah, yeah. Gosh, I wish I could remember his name. I don't think I know about this one, so tell me. I know who you're talking about. What is it?
Starting point is 00:10:42 What was his name? T.J. Miller? No. T.J. Miller, yes. Oh, it's t.j right right right yes t.j miller had a girl who claimed that she never said no and she never she consented but she felt like she gave off unspoken messaging to him to stop and that he didn't pick up on that and therefore and i feel it was amazing that you haven't even heard of that because I think even culture
Starting point is 00:11:08 at that time was like, okay, we're going a little too far. Well, but I would say there is a lesson to be learned. And not that TJ was culpable or anything, but there is something to spin off that and learn, which is that if a woman is manifesting a freeze response, that should tell you something. And I suspect that's what she's talking about. And if you don't understand what freeze means in terms of trauma and people have been through trauma and whatnot, you'd miss that because it's not obvious. It's certainly not somebody saying no. It's the opposite of somebody saying no.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It's somebody frozen. I mean, from a personal standpoint, I totally agree. And I always tread lightly on this one because I don't want to sound like an asshole or pompous in a way. But I went out of my way to always be, like, very positive that the girl wanted to have sex with me. Like, it was – there were many a girl, even some that Drew would, like, know. Like, they'd be Loveline guests and stuff. And Drew would be like, that girl is throwing herself at you. And I'd be like, I don't know. Clearly she's into you. You know, you and stuff and drew's be like that girl's throwing herself at you and i'd be like i don't know she's clearly she's into you you know you and
Starting point is 00:12:07 ann and anderson be like that girl's into you i don't know i need bona fide like hey want to come have sex like i need that level of of commitment and i'm not saying you necessarily need that but it is important to recognize that no means no. That's, that's like kindergarten stuff. And to this day, your wife gives you shit about missing her intention and having to come back on Loveline three times and still having to make it explicit to you.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Tweet me and stuff. Yeah. I mean, cause I was, first off, there's two things. One, I'm not paying attention to. And you have low self me and stuff. Yeah. I mean, because first off, there's two things. One, I'm not paying attention. Two.
Starting point is 00:12:46 You're not paying attention and you have low self-esteem. And so you don't expect it. So it's like, you know. Yeah. No, I need bad girls. Life was really easy. Dating and courting women was really easy when I was in the meth because all the girls I was around were like, they're bad girls. I didn't need – there was no subtlety.
Starting point is 00:13:06 But my point is like. I remember Whitney Cummings said. I think crystallized it perfectly. She said. Every sexual encounter I had in my 20s. Was consensual. But I didn't want to do it. Oh that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And that hit me like a ton of bricks. Where. She's like. I gave the guy all levels of consent. Yeah. But I really didn't want to do it. I know that to be true of women under 20 because women typically under 20 don't get much out of sexuality. They sort of do it to satisfy the male partner.
Starting point is 00:13:41 We heard that all the time on Loveline. And that stays with me. That troubles me greatly that women put themselves in that position. Men really, really, really, really want to do it and really get a lot out of it. And the women should be feeling similarly.
Starting point is 00:13:58 You know, maybe not with the same drive. But that's just not nature. I know. Then wait. Then let them wait right right right right right no no no no no i'm not saying absolutely but like i don't even think it's worth saying women should really be in the same in the same arena as young boys as young men because that's just like like you you have no concept females out there the difference between how much a 17 year old boy wants sex compared to how much a 17-year-old boy wants sex
Starting point is 00:14:25 compared to how little a 17-year-old girl wants sex. Even the most motivated 17-year-old girl, the difference is vast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And why God did that, I always said that was God's great, one of God's many jokes on humanity. That's a big one. And by the way, turning a guy into that kind of animal at 13 14 that's like what is he what was he thinking i guess maybe to maximize reproduction of course yes of course but it's still that's of course what it was that's why it evolved but it's still a profound burden for for
Starting point is 00:15:00 the young male that they have each one is making a baby the most unfair deal ever yes all there's that's the other that's the other part of the unfairness what women are strapped with yeah of giving birth for a woman the absolute abject nightmare of having your body explode the pain physical pain the emotional trauma the the lack of support you feel and then all i did is blow a load which i want to do anyway and then and then you i'm not then but you had a firsthand experience without watching your wife go through natural childbirth for 24 hours it's crazy and i felt real bad. We talked about it. I'm kind of a tuned-in dude, especially when it comes to biology, and I want to be aware.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I'm intellectually curious. But I was really hurt by how little I knew about the female body. When the placenta shot out, I thought the placenta was like a little amuse amuse bouche oh it's a fucking frisbee it's a pizza it's a pizza yeah it's a frisbee yeah i was like oh it's the last thing my wife needed probably in that moment but literally and then you ate it i did eat it oh you bastard, listen, I got to take a quick break. We're going to hear from our friends at Angie. Homeowners, you know how much work it takes to maintain that home, whether it's everyday maintenance or repairs or just taking on a dream project. In addition to your home, it can be hard to even know where to start.
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Starting point is 00:17:13 All right, we're back. Mike Cathwood joins me this week. Adam is in Hawaii or some shit. I don't know what he's doing. He never even tells me. He just disappears. I'm not going to be here, Drew. He didn't know.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Not even that. I just was talking to some of the folks that work here about where he is, and that's how I figured it out. I heard he had a stand-up. He had a gig in Honolulu. So I thought, well, he must have gone to Hawaii. But speaking of you being a horrible animal, Mike has this habit of sending horrible pictures to the people he's thinking about. And it used to be men with large phalluses. That used to be his thing.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And you gave my wife an unfortunate fetish by sending a million of those to her too. So thank you for that. I'm sure I gave it to her, Drew. Thank you for that. You just became aware of it. Susan liked Big Black Cock way before i started sending him to her and then and then we we brought it up if people started complaining about it and then people started complaining to your wife and your wife was like it just it's just means he's thinking
Starting point is 00:18:16 about you it's just how he says i'm thinking of you hi you know we're like laughing our ass off and finally we're like no i can't have this shit on my feed. I can't. If somebody Hunter Bidens me and looks up my shit, they're going to find horrible stuff for like 10 years from you. And then you started sending me beautiful women from Instagram, okay? And you'd go, click on this, click on this. And I would click on these things. And now my wife gives me shit because she goes you know how instagram has this sort of compilation page like your things you're interested in or whatever
Starting point is 00:18:52 she goes what is this it's all these women white white women with big tits and bathing suits what is going on and i'm like and i literally like to point out yours is white women with big tits because that's what I sent you. Yes. If you look at mine, it's black chicks and Hispanic chicks with relatively small boobies and gigantic asses. Okay. I'm not talking about what preferences are. I'm talking about what was on my feed and I was like, Susan, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I don't know where this came from. I don't look at the – she goes, you must be just looking at women. I don't even go on Instagram. I don't know what you're talking about. And it took me – dude, it took me about a month. I'm like, oh, my God. It's Mike. Mike sends me that shit.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I click on it, and that shows up on my Instagram. Susan, Sinsky, watch this. I'm being dead serious. It is 100% me. drew does not look at that stuff on his own i do send it to him i'm sure your husband looks when i send but that is me that is all my fault because i here's proof positive if it's if it's like hitler's dream women that are six feet tall with big tits that is that's true shit I know that because that's what I'm saying. You can look at mine. It is nothing but some girl named Conchita from Colombia.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Well, she likes the Colombian stuff too, so you can send her some Colombian girls. But as I understand your thing, you like what they would call sporty, athletic. Yeah, or pogs. I like pogs. What does that mean? I don't even know what that means. Badass white girls. You know, in the porn world i like uh i like the system i'm a big i like ethnic i like asian hispanic and black women i mean i and even the white girls white girls i like have to be brunette with like exotic like mila kunisi look yeah yeah i get it the armless is my new who is the armless who oh my god who oh my god
Starting point is 00:20:46 do you know who uh isaac gonzalez is no she's in baby driver she's i'm sure i'm gonna get a bunch of instagrams on my on my text feed from you this girl's so hot she's dead you know in six cents you know in six cents when he says i see dead people when i see her i say i go i see dead people i feel like hayley joel osmond so so really mike is like like a primitive man like he's like we must we must find the most beautiful virgin and we must behead her and throw her in the volcano because she's too beautiful to hurt her i don't want to hurt her it's just i'm a married man and so i can't have sex with her so i either either have to cut my dick off and throw it at her. It's better.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It's better if you do that. Or like, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. They're showing me pictures of her now. She's very pretty. So, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a picture she put up on her own Instagram the other day of her in, like, head-to-toe Dodger gear. And I almost just drowned myself in my own spunk.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I was like, well, what am I doing? How can I do? Your two favorite things. If she had a Lakers hat on, it would have been over. If she was like, I'm off to the gym. I'm eating some ribeye off to the gym in my Dodger gear. I would have just blown up in a big
Starting point is 00:21:59 splooge fucking cosmos. How old are you? You must be approaching 40 something now you're still the same 45 you're the same as you were when you were 27 yeah for sure that's another thing i don't get and you can back me up on this because you're a man of great passion yes you're what you're 60 65 last week okay congratulations i'm medicare wish you happy birthday. Medicare. I didn't. Well, I actually wish you happy cunt day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:29 But I have my friends that, queens of mine, 38, 39 years old, they're talking about like, I just don't, I don't get horny anymore. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? I don't think it's any surprise that they're usually like out of shape. Right. What are you talking about? I don't think it's any surprise that they're usually out of shape. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So I think that's interesting to me too because I'm 65 and still – it's still going too strong I would say. In fact, I was talking to Joel McHale about something the other day and he went, yeah, if the sex dive would go down a little bit, that would be a good thing. Sarah would be happy for that. I thought, oh, yeah, Susan would be too if we're down a bit but in fairness you know and i'm i'm not this isn't more locker room talker yeah your your wife's like extremely good looking i mean i think that helps it no that's exactly right and so i i think being into your partner keeps you healthy and wanting to be fit and into it but i don't understand how sex drive well well, if you get fat and diabetic and whatever and you're on meds and things, I get it. That's going to kill your sex drive.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And if you're not into your partner, that's not going to help things. But in this day and age when there's so much stimulation coming in through social media, I don't understand how men don't sort of keep it up that way. You know what I mean? Like they're still being stimulated. Because theyulated expended that way they oh i see their their lose their their chi is getting expended on that you have hd camera quality like hardcore porn with you at all times nowadays it's just not it wasn't like that for years do you have an h did you have like a virtual thing now because we're gonna lose you when i've it. I did it at the AVNs, but I don't –
Starting point is 00:24:06 At the AVNs? As much as I love – What were you doing at the AVNs? I was bussing balls, making videos. Oh, my God. I chipped the back of my tooth with like this world's most powerful vibrator. And I like jokingly like put it against my face and it chipped the back of my tooth. And let's remind everyone that you're superhuman in terms of your hair, teeth, and aging even now. Is that he never brushed his teeth, never saw a dentist, did meth all day.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I never sought professional dental help, but I brush and floss like crazy. When you were doing meth? I was always pretty weirdly into that. You know why? Because I was always scared of my breath. So I got geeky about brushing and flossing. Gary Delebate's paging me.
Starting point is 00:24:59 No way. We're talking about teeth and mouths and Gary Delebate out of the blue? Isn't that weird? that's so funny yeah uh let's see i'll call him when we finish uh hold on is he okay he's good we were talking about something though he needs a little bit of guidance on something so he's good i like he's one of those people I don't know. I've met him, but I don't know him. Oh, he's a great guy.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Super great guy. He seems like such a nice person. Oh, he's exactly who he is. I mean, it's exactly who you think he is. His wife's lovely too and stuff. So back to meth. There's a new drug phenomenon that has evolved since we were last
Starting point is 00:25:47 working together and that is the full effects of weed the THC in California I don't know what's going on in Texas but the concentration that's being sold here is causing so much shit medically
Starting point is 00:26:02 I am surprised I always worried that there was maybe you could bring certain things out and stuff no it's causing problems yeah i i did wonder and i'm by no means like i want to make it very clear i'm by no means like anti-weed especially when it comes to like if it's going to be weed or any type of plant medicine or opiates or something. Yeah. Yeah, you do your thing. You eat your mushrooms, smoke your weed. But the caliber of marijuana that people have access to, and there's really no, like, limitations to it, you know, for people over 18 or 21, I did wonder, like, what that was going to do,
Starting point is 00:26:39 actually, because, like, it's, like, not regular weed anymore. No. It has different effects. It's a profound drug. Yeah, you've got to be super, super careful. And so I'm preparing a talk to a group of pharmacists, and they weren't aware of this. It's in Florida, and they are not seeing it so much there. We're seeing it a lot here in California.
Starting point is 00:26:55 There's, in fact, a paper came out recently that showed marked increase in ER visits for people over the age of 65. visits for people over the age of 65. And the question is, is that strictly because of the power of this thing that it's sending 68-year-olds to the ER, or are there these profound drug-drug interactions because people over that age are often or typically on some medication? Either case— Well, I wonder— Go ahead. What is it that's happening?
Starting point is 00:27:20 Like, what are these people— Well, I'm—Emmy, have I talked about this publicly, the reaction I had to weed, have I talked about this publicly? Not that I can recall. Okay. Cause you'd remember this story. You're a big Yenta with like, no,
Starting point is 00:27:33 I'm a, I'm a, I'm a lightweight. I think I would have told it to Adam cause he would have made fun of me. And I would have thought that would be interesting, but here's my story. I, I've never had any affinity for weed.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I just, I, people always try to get me to get high when I was in college and stuff. And I'm like, I don't – I'm not – they always told me I was smoking it wrong and I didn't understand it. I needed to smoke more. And if I smoked more, I'd feel worse. I just didn't have any positive experience from it. So it never was anything alluring to me.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But Susan and I were going to a party at a very famous person's house who smokes a lot of weed. And he called me and he said, you know, this other guy is going to be there and this other person is going to be there, also renowned for weed smoking. So you're going to Kimmel's house and Snoop. It's literally not those two, but that level. And so
Starting point is 00:28:20 I go, we're driving and I go, Susan. Bill Maher. I go, Susan, we're going to have to, I'm going to be with the cool kids tonight, and I'm going to have to smoke weed. It's going to have to happen. I just know that's what they're going to offer to me, and if I want to be one of the cool kids now, I'm going to have to do it. So I go in, and, of course, these two folks, and a very young female who must have weighed 90 pounds were going at it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 They had these huge cigars with plastic tips on it. And they're just going wild. And I thought, eh, how bad could it be? They seem to be not even affected by it, these guys. So, of course, they hand me the thing. And I take two hits, and I have the most profound reaction within 30 seconds where I start shaking like I have Parkinson's disease. I become disoriented. And I see Susan across the room.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I walk over to her. I can barely walk because I'm shaking like a Parkinsonian patient. And she goes, sit down. And I go, I can't. I don't have the ability. I don't know how. I can't sit. I have no control over my body. And I was able to kind of scramble outside. And when I went outside, I was not in a panic. I just was miserable. There was no panic, no nothing, just misery. And I was looking. There was no panic, no nothing, just misery. And I was looking at what was happening, and I went, oh, the lights out here are bright. My mouth is dry as shit.
Starting point is 00:29:54 My heart rate is up. I'm disorganized. This is an anticholinergic delirium. I know exactly what this is. I should go to the ER and get physostigmine, which is how they treat this. And I thought, no, because fucking TMZ would go crazy with this. And I thought, no, I could have a seizure, which they are seeing seizures with this now too. That was going to be my question because I know how much it can lower the threshold. I felt like I was going to have a seizure, but I thought, no, no, no, I'll risk that.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I'm going to stay out here. I'm going to make – I'm going to get through this and I'll just – if I could get through like an hour and a half, two hours, I'm going to be fine. It will pass. I'm just miserable in the meantime. I'm pacing a little bit and the host comes out and talks to me and my wife comes out and talks to me. I go, no, no, I'm fine. They're just sort of making small talk. My wife comes out and checks on me again and I thought, okay, it's got to be like an hour and a half now I'm out here.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And I go, okay, honey, how long have I been here? She goes, like, eight minutes. I'm like, oh, my God, eight, ten minutes of shit. I've got to get out of here. So I had to leave. I was sick for five days. I couldn't drive a car for five days. I couldn't work out for like three days.
Starting point is 00:30:59 For me, that's a big deal. And I've read about this since, that this is really happening, these anticholinergic reactions. And it might be some meds I'm on that made more bioavailability or something. And who knows? But it's something people need to watch out for. And that's strictly because of how powerful this stuff is. And, you know, there we go. And I've got people very close to me that have had addictions and have had psychotic reactions.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And I'm seeing that in patients now a lot. So we need to pay attention. And there's two things I would say, characteristics to know that it's the weed. On the anticholinergic delirium, the weed-related anticholinergic delirium has time compression, which is what I was telling you that I couldn't judge time, and the psychotic reactions from weed, people characteristically say for some reason, you're not listening to me. You're not listening to me. That's sort of a characteristic symptom of going into the psychotic reactions with weed. So there we are. It's a new world with cannabis, and we just got to deal with it on reality's terms. That's all.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Yeah. a new world with cannabis, and we just got to deal with it on reality's terms. That's all. Yeah, I mean, I think that's a simple solution. It might be overly simplified to some people, but I just want – because like I said, I mean, I think you're the same way. If you're going to smoke weed, smoke weed. It's clearly not the same thing as meth, cocaine. Well, the guys I was smoking with seem unaffected by it. So I know some people can do it. But if it's starting to have an issue, you need to pay attention because it can destroy people. My only thing is I know so many people that are like, I like smoking weed all the live long day and I'm a very productive person.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Therefore, I'm going to say out loud that it is completely harmless and that it is completely risk-free. And it's like, let us all, even you like super duper weed activist guy, can we please all just agree? Like, that's not really the case. Like any chemical, it has risks. And if it works for you, it's good for you. If there's schizophrenia underlying or something, like it could be real bad, like real bad. Dude, I thought that was what it did. It causes psychosis. I have seen it now.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Now, the good news is it's a drug psychosis, so it's self-limited. It gets treated very easily, and it goes away. But in some people, maybe it doesn't. I don't know. We're seeing a lot of this right now, a lot of psychotic reactions. Bring back Quaaludes. Manic psychosis. All right, we're going to have to wrap this one up.
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